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"4 days in May" was removed from the air of NTV

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It is necessary or not to display «4 days in May" on Russian television?

No need to show - 5022 (88.14%)
88.14%
You can show - 574 (10.07%)
10.07%
Anyway - 100 (1.76%)
1.76%
Moscow. 5 May. INTERFAX.RU - NTV decided to remove 7 in May from the air of the military drama "4 of the day in May," the press service of the television company told Interfax on Saturday.

"NTV's intention to show on the eve of Victory Day - May 7 - the film by director Achim von Borris" May 4 of May "caused an extremely negative reaction from veterans' organizations and individual viewers of the Great Patriotic War. The film really touches upon the topics around which there are controversies and there are no definite evaluation, "- said the representative of NTV.
According to him, “since NTV’s intentions do not include in any way to darken the holiday for the generation of winners, Vladimir Kulistikov, the general director of the television company, considered it necessary to make changes to the grid, and therefore 7 of May on NTV will show the film by director Michael Ptashuk "In August 19-th ....".


Dear creative team and management of the NTV channel!

2012-05-04 14: 34: 32 In the broadcasting schedule of your channel on Monday 7 May (19: 25 minutes of Moscow time), the German film director Achim von Boris’s “4 of the Day in May” was shown. With all due respect to the people who created this film, and with all due respect to the work of your channel, we believe that showing this tape on the eve of the anniversary of the Great Victory could provoke associations among the viewer related to belittling the role of the Soviet troops in the victory over fascism.

"4 days in May" was removed from the air of NTV


The film is based on the story "Russian epic" by Dmitry Frost. However, the story itself has no historical grounds and is the fruit of a clearly unhealthy fantasy of its creator. In addition, information about the fictional events of which the film "4 Days in May" is narrated is contained in Frost's own reply to the Russian historian Alexei Isaev, who caught the writer of juggling historical facts.

We are confident that the team of the federal television channel NTV fully realizes that the display of such provocative films about the Great Patriotic War, based on unsupported fiction, can sow doubt about the significance of the Victory of Soviet soldiers in the consciousness of modern Russian youth.

In the film, Soviet soldiers and officers are shown from the most unattractive side, and the director and screenwriters make a conscious accent on this. First, the demonstration of how the victorious army soldiers kill the German teenager in the back, hide behind young orphan children and deal with the constant clarification of relationships not only with each other, but also with their officers, obviously has nothing to do with what is accepted call civil-patriotic education, the need to develop that so much they say in our country. Secondly, there are unambiguous hints in the film that the soldiers of the Soviet army who entered the German land are mostly rapists and moral monsters who not only do not have the appropriate moral character, but also emphasize that they were made fathers commanders. Thirdly, the film clearly traces the direct storyline, showing the wisdom of the German forces in contrast to the opinion implanted by the authors about the endless stupidity of the Soviet servicemen.

In the film, the role of a drunkard and a rapist (major) tank troops played by Georgian actor Merab Ninidze. One gets the impression that the scriptwriters and directors deliberately focused on this in order to show that during the Great Patriotic War there was no brotherhood between the Soviet peoples, but only an open struggle of all against everyone for a place in the sun. And, according to the authors, it turns out that in the heat of this struggle, the front line could pass in such a bizarre way that the Nazi troops could even afford to make a choice against which particular unit to fight.

We think that NTV channel, the ratings of which in Russia are extremely high, should not become a platform, which take advantage of the use of force, trying to blacken Soviet soldiers and to question the appropriateness of the liberation of Europe from fascism. If we allow such films to be shown to a multi-million dollar audience today, then Russia does not exclude its own processions of accomplices of the fascist occupiers, the transfer of monuments and the destruction of mass graves tomorrow.

At one time, Peter Stolypin uttered a phrase that sounds like a warning to those who decide to change the story: "A people that does not have a national identity is manure on which other peoples already grow."

We urge the NTV channel to meet the wishes of ordinary Russians and to cancel the screening of the film "4 of the Day in May", guided by the expediency of real civil-patriotic education in our country. And the Order "For Merit» III degree obtained NTV general director Vladimir Mikhailovich Kulistikova of Russian hands of the President - has a striking confirmation of the fact that your federal channel state and society have great expectations.

Sincerely, creative staff and readers of the site "Military Review"!


PS All indifferent to issues of civil and patriotic education in Russia, please actively express their position as the site "Military Review", and as a possible location of the treatment on the disposal of readers online resources.
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  1. Vanek
    Vanek 4 May 2012 14: 37
    -62
    Dear moderators!

    Enough articles about this mediocre work!

    I didn’t even read the article.
    1. esaul
      esaul 4 May 2012 14: 39
      +141
      Quote: Vanek
      Enough articles about this mediocre work!

      Ivan, but not about this film itself, as such, we are talking about! The point is that we need to support the call of the "Military Review" team to the NTV directorate about the unwanted display of this craft and the forecast of negative consequences from this display! I SUPPORT this appeal - UNIFORMALLY!
      1. Aleksey67
        Aleksey67 4 May 2012 14: 40
        +60
        Quote: esaul
        Ivan, don’t ask for this film, as such, we are talking! It is about supporting the call


        I will post on two forums motorists
        1. esaul
          esaul 4 May 2012 14: 51
          +24
          Quote: Aleksey67
          I will post on two forums motorists

          YOUTH !!! drinks
          1. Ty3uk
            Ty3uk 4 May 2012 20: 00
            +64
            I sent a letter to NTV General Director V. Kulistikov. demanding to remove from the grid is shit!
            I propose to do the same to everyone. Let's spam the goats with spam! laughing
            1. Vadim555
              Vadim555 4 May 2012 20: 12
              +18
              Quote: Ty3uk
              Ty3uk Today, 20:00 new 0 I sent a letter to the general director of NTV Kulistikov V.M. demanding to remove from the grid is shit!
              I propose to do the same to everyone. Let's spam the goats with spam!

              Sorry of course, maybe this option is also suitable.
              1. rolik
                rolik 5 May 2012 15: 27
                +9
                It is especially offensive that Guskov is my fellow countryman. Damn, really hurt. How could an intelligent person star in this ..... movie? Many of my acquaintances have dramatically changed their attitude towards him after this role. Or is the "man" really the most expensive loot?
                1. Dr. Pilyulkin
                  Dr. Pilyulkin 5 May 2012 22: 36
                  +5
                  It's a shame that Guskov is a good actor, but as a person - dung. Like others, previously respected by me, actors (Merzlikin, Dobrygin), who managed to get into IT. Also, the lack of principle of the modern masses is striking. Let me explain: Merzlikin, for example, managed to star in two films about the war with completely different meanings and messages - "4 days in May" and "Brest Fortress". I conclude that this person does not care where to film, the size of the fee is important. I never thought that because of money one could not give a damn about the sacred - the memory of fathers, grandfathers and millions of compatriots killed and tortured by the Nazis.
                2. Patriot 34
                  Patriot 34 9 May 2012 02: 19
                  -1
                  Again, it proves that in the world, if not all, much is being done for the sake of money!
            2. Landwarrior
              Landwarrior 4 May 2012 21: 35
              +5
              Ty3uk,
              Man, shaking hands before the ranks! I
            3. Gur
              Gur 8 May 2012 09: 41
              +1
              The film nevertheless got through on television, yesterday it was shown on the Dom Kino channel. And this channel is included in the worldwide network of 1 channel. CUK AND !!!!!! Traitors !! Spanks !! I have no words.
        2. selbrat
          selbrat 4 May 2012 15: 21
          +33
          In the "classmates" I see a group appeared - "St. George's Ribbon". You can place there.
        3. Dmitriy69
          Dmitriy69 4 May 2012 15: 34
          +51
          It's a shame that all this noise only makes unnecessary advertising for this "masterpiece".
          Kindly, it is necessary to pull out all those responsible for the collar from the warm rooms to the square, and put it open once for everyone who did not live to win.
          1. Dmitriy69
            Dmitriy69 4 May 2012 15: 50
            +31
            Insulting the memory of ancestors is not a criminal offense, and therefore it is necessary to punish not by code, but by justice. The whip will be the fairest thing for them.
            1. iulai
              iulai 5 May 2012 09: 28
              +8
              and what a shame, with our money, they trample us in shit! the fifth column operates in Russia! but what does the FSB do?
          2. Vadim555
            Vadim555 4 May 2012 15: 57
            +13
            Quote: Dmitriy69
            Kindly, it is necessary to pull out all those responsible for the collar from warm offices to the square, and pour open once for each survivor of victory.


            I already wrote about this. And take it off camera and show it before the movie.
            1. gojesi
              gojesi 4 May 2012 19: 44
              +19
              The most offensive thing is that our taxpayers are taking money off, "with the support of the Ministry of Culture" !!! You would try to shoot something like that in the USA, England or France, with the taxpayer's money!
              Conclusion - the 5th column steers !!!
              1. Alex63
                Alex63 5 May 2012 09: 43
                -18
                The country itself chose the fifth power column in December and March. Now we will wind the snot on the fist. There was a chance, but we did not use it.
                1. warring
                  warring 5 May 2012 10: 31
                  +13
                  And who should the country choose, Nemtsov or what? Then there would definitely be a chance that the Victory Parade would no longer exist at all (as in the 90s).
                  1. Alex63
                    Alex63 5 May 2012 15: 35
                    -14
                    Cons fell down. What, Putiners, did not hit the eyebrow, but in the eye? True, it hurts your eyes? And time will pass, how will you make excuses for your idol?
                    1. aerspb
                      aerspb 15 May 2012 00: 54
                      +2
                      You for Nemtsov, Novalny and other freaks justify
                      1. Alex63
                        Alex63 21 May 2012 02: 49
                        0
                        No need for people who think differently called freaks. Appreciate and respect the opinions of others. I will not justify myself before you, you do not deserve it. Swim too shallow. Only people like you then raise their right hand in greeting and shout toasts to their leader.
                      2. slav4ikus
                        slav4ikus 3 June 2012 16: 59
                        0
                        no need to impose your opinion and consider that it is the only correct one! all your favorite gang is striving for power under the leadership of Luzhkov Berezovsky McFaul and other "friends"
                2. Viking
                  Viking 6 May 2012 11: 39
                  +5
                  Yes, do not comfort yourself with hope - you did not have any chance! The people of Russia are not as stupid as you think they are. The second time to step on the same rake is too much for us. And who understands perfectly well who is doing something, and who is on the "swamps" and "Rains" cormorant.
                  1. Dahlia
                    Dahlia 6 May 2012 13: 40
                    +2
                    Viking,
                    I subscribe to your words - it is definitely said !!! good
                    Congratulations to all on a very important victory - removing the mockery of veterans and people from the air!
                    Happy Great Victory Day !!! love
                    1. Alex63
                      Alex63 6 May 2012 13: 47
                      +2
                      The announcement has just been shown - this film will be shown on the "Dom Kino" channel, and this channel has a logo, as the first channel used to have. So you shouldn't shake the air here. As long as the fifth column is in power, everything will be as it wants.
                      1. Dahlia
                        Dahlia 6 May 2012 23: 31
                        0
                        You might think that the whole country watches "Dom Kino", especially the veterans - not everyone has this channel, and NTV is in every house.
                        It seems that everyone has their own ideas about the fifth column in power and around it ... Especially in the fourth power.
                      2. Darn
                        Darn 7 May 2012 09: 14
                        +3
                        How all this infuriates the bastard Guskov removed the garbage now run through all channels of the letter write. Now, if he does not realize what he took, let his "friends" explain to him. Let him, with US money, make a film about the nuclear bombing of Japanese cities, be aware of the screenings both in the US and in Japan. And then the Japanese already say that it was the USSR that threw off the bombs. Ras he loves to think about good and evil. I even imagine a B-29 being over Hiroshima with its bomb bay open, while a brave American gunner board is trying to drag the bomb back.
                3. slav4ikus
                  slav4ikus 3 June 2012 16: 57
                  0
                  what does the election have to do with it? you are either a small or near-minded person and still believe that power rules in our country, not money
            2. oper66
              oper66 5 May 2012 13: 05
              +10
              In addition, directors of producers and artists should be put on public obstruction and deprived of their honored and popular titles as not justifying trust and dishonoring the culture of Russian cinema
          3. smile
            smile 4 May 2012 16: 18
            +16
            Dmitriy69
            A sensible proposal, especially the fact that revolts me. that our ministry of culture also allocates funds to producers of all kinds of fines and other bastards. Where is their conscience? !!!!!!!
            1. aerspb
              aerspb 15 May 2012 00: 57
              0
              And their conscience is kept in their own wallets. A wallet in a duck, a duck in a hare, well, etc. All read a fairy tale. Urgently needed Ivan Tsarevich :)
          4. baskoy
            baskoy 7 May 2012 11: 44
            +5
            Already done! You read the reviews on the news about the removal of the film from the air - hair on end! To such an extent, a duped people will believe in any nonsense and will debate with gusto: the blood of which babies Stalin preferred - two-month-old or unborn. It is getting scary for RUSSIA! Why does the same NTV not publicly declare that this story is a sick fantasy of the author, to which he himself confessed? Why does the AUTHORITY force to print a warning about harm to health on cigarettes, but is silent here? We need a lot of noise and a complete exposure of the meanness of Guskov with a group! Otherwise, in five years, our tenth graders will be sure that the "vile" USSR attacked noble Germany, and the "atrocities" of the Soviet Army shocked the whole world! ALREADY WRITE SOMETHING LIKE IN THE COMMENTS, it seems, our compatriots!
        4. YARY
          YARY 4 May 2012 23: 17
          +13
          Then it was said about sending a letter to the Kremlin ru-I sent a son sent a wife sent and daughter-in-law too.
          Guys, let's write if it's possible
          . angry recourse
      2. Vanek
        Vanek 4 May 2012 14: 45
        +24
        Valery. With all due respect to you, I hate any mention of this film. Although I never watched it. And in the company "NTV" I will simply be disappointed.

        Right now, until the seventh of May, until 19-25 Moscow time there will be a vote on the site. You already, for your part, try to convey its (voting) results to NTV.

        I feel sorry for the veterans if they look.
        1. esaul
          esaul 4 May 2012 14: 49
          +16
          Vanek,

          Vanya, don’t worry and don’t put out, brother. You won’t lose much if you don’t look, but about your emotional impulse - everything is normal, only VO needs a concrete answer to a specific proposal. Take a plus, buddy! drinks
          1. Vanek
            Vanek 4 May 2012 14: 58
            +10
            MEN cho remembered. Exactly the seventh on channel 49 (in Novosibirsk) and just at this time there will be a movie. In my opinion, "Nevsky Rubezh", this is what I will watch with VULNEROUS pleasure.
            1. Zynaps
              Zynaps 4 May 2012 22: 35
              +7
              only "Dnieper frontier". and, no offense, with the GREAT. Russian - he rules!
              1. Vanek
                Vanek 5 May 2012 04: 29
                +5
                Quote: Zynaps
                Russian language - he rulez!


                Yes, of course. Yesterday, just the whole mood, as they say, fell.

                By the way, tell the site "NTV". I'll write them what I think of them.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 5 May 2012 06: 04
                  +5
                  Vanya, good morning to Novosibirsk. NTV has sites, dafigli sense. Here someone wrote that Medvedev had awarded the NTV owner a medal. On the Medvedev site and Putin write what you think. Maybe that will change
                  1. Vanek
                    Vanek 5 May 2012 06: 35
                    +6
                    If I am not mistaken - Vladivostok. You already have that day there. Greetings, Alexander.

                    What to write yet did not think. But after reading your
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    dafigli's sense.

                    I think really - there will be no sense. Now they were traveling with his wife to work, listening to the radio. The children were asked: - What is May 9th? Well something like that. Kids about seven years old. They answered something like this: - On this day, the Russians defeated the Germans. - On this day, congratulate the winners. It's nice to realize that bright, children's heads are not clogged with such nonsense.

                    Maybe not everything is lost yet?
            2. nfkfkftd
              nfkfkftd 5 May 2012 16: 08
              +2
              And the film in August of the 44th is also good!
              1. Korzhik_77
                Korzhik_77 6 May 2012 01: 32
                +1
                The book is better, but this is my opinion
                1. slav4ikus
                  slav4ikus 3 June 2012 17: 01
                  0
                  the book is really interesting! and this is also my opinion
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 4 May 2012 14: 54
          +20
          Vanya, Valera, Alexei, few calls to NTV. Fill up the site of Medvedev on the face and where he is still there, then it might be worthwhile. I mean to fill up with appeals
          1. sergo0000
            sergo0000 4 May 2012 21: 42
            +4
            Alexander Romanov,
            Sasha support! And I also remembered, Guskov has his own personal website! Mentally stomp the dog !!! Rotate the enemy !!! am
            1. Charon
              Charon 5 May 2012 00: 23
              +3
              Found a site. Only register and leave comments there is impossible. Although the article on the film, explaining that the geese - a goat is there.
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 5 May 2012 05: 56
              +6
              Good morning Sergey, I don’t understand how he will appear on TV after that
        3. Tiomka
          Tiomka 4 May 2012 15: 03
          0
          I am disgusted by any mention of this film. Although I did not watch it.

          classic...
          did not read, but condemn (c)
          1. Aleksey67
            Aleksey67 4 May 2012 15: 06
            +22
            Quote: tiomka
            classic ... did not read, but condemn


            To understand that shit doesn't have to taste it wassat
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 4 May 2012 16: 32
              +5
              Quote: Aleksey67
              To understand that shit doesn't have to taste it

              Good afternoon, Alex! The whole trouble is that the mentality of our people is such that it doesn’t enter d ..... oh and then it won’t be convinced that it’s far from obscene, I WILL NOT BELIEVE.
              1. Prorox
                Prorox 4 May 2012 17: 33
                +6
                Looks like someone decided that we should drink a cup of shit democracy to the bottom and I can assume that they will also present something for a snack. Only a tough answer to all these arts can give a positive result for the future. all who are involved in this (only the mothers remained) since guskov in a professional concept are dead to me.
            2. Piligrim
              Piligrim 5 May 2012 17: 34
              -10
              In-in, purely your Stalinist policy. or universal and friendly approval — or the same friendly condemnation!
              It's good that at least you yourself understand ...
          2. vorobey
            vorobey 4 May 2012 15: 08
            +6
            He has at least a classic, and you have a clinic.
        4. gojesi
          gojesi 5 May 2012 15: 57
          +2
          Quote: Vanek
          I feel sorry for the veterans if they look.

          in order to make sure that you can't "eat guano" it is not at all necessary to set the table and sit down with a spoon in front of a plate of shit! For example, I have never watched the F * ck film "Bastards" and nevertheless I do not feel flawed. So I don’t think that old people will rush to admire this masterpiece, which I think cannot be said about old GERMAN people, it will be like a balm for them, but the main spearhead of the attack is directed at our, Russian, youth, at you, Vanyok! You are liberalized and tolerated with these works ...
      3. Vadivak
        Vadivak 4 May 2012 15: 02
        +51
        Valery I join. Outraged by the unscrupulousness of the actors who are ready for money to embody the delirium of the "scriptwriter" Dmitry Fost, who spits on the graves of our soldiers, all this bastard is lying

        at one of the events, the famous military historian Alexei Isaev pushed Fost to the wall with the fact that his whole story about the heroic defense of the German women of Rügen rests on the "document" of a certain "137 tank battalion of the 90th rifle division", but in the 1945 rifle divisions:
        1. There were no tank battalions!
        2. The anti-tank division of 90 sd (the only one in the division that could have something like tanks had only light SU-76s) and most importantly had number 66!

        Fost was blown away and said that he had specially invented this story “in order to strengthen the“ Russian-German friendship ”!

        And because of such an abomination, a whole movie novel was filmed. It is also interesting that Guskov and his comrades, harping this movie, also managed to be noted in plagiarism - that is, theft - the author of the "source" of this historical shit - Dmitry Fost, who, in fact, came up with all this having slandered the dead heroes of Fedyuninsky, he is not among the authors of the script, but there is a certain “screenwriter" from Kaliningrad, Eduard Reznik, and the German Achim von Borris, who boldly added the director’s fee to the scriptwriter's fee.


        From the order of Stalin on January 19, 1945
        "Officers and Red Army men! We are going to the enemy's country. Everyone must keep composure, everyone must be brave ... The remaining population in the conquered areas, regardless of whether German, Czech, or Pole, should not be subjected to violence. The perpetrators will be punished according to martial law. Sex with women is not allowed in the conquered territory. The perpetrators will be shot for violence and rape. "

        20 April 1945 city
        The Supreme High Command orders:
        1. Demand to change the attitude towards the Germans both to prisoners of war and civilians. Treat the Germans better. The cruel relationship with the Germans causes them to fear and makes them stubbornly resist, not surrendering to captivity. The civilian population, fearing revenge, is organized into gangs. This situation is not profitable for us. A more humane attitude towards the Germans will ease our combat operations on their territory and will undoubtedly reduce the German stubbornness in defense.
        2. In areas of Germany west of the line of the mouth of the Oder River, Fürstenberg, then the Neisse River (west) to create German administrations, and in cities to set burgomaster - Germans. The ordinary members of the National Socialist Party, if they are loyal to the Red Army, should not be touched, but only leaders should be detained if they did not manage to escape.
        3. Improving attitudes towards the Germans should not lead to a decrease in vigilance and familiarity with the Germans.
        Supreme Headquarters.

        I.STALIN
        ANTONOV "
        1. esaul
          esaul 4 May 2012 15: 09
          +16
          Quote: Vadivak
          Outraged by the unscrupulousness of the actors

          Vadim, welcome! We are not alone, judging by the emotions and comments. It's a shame for Guskov - the man has lost his sense of smell completely. That - "Bastards", then - "4 Days" ... Or maybe a man "got creative"? ... On the opinion of people and the memory of the Second World War - us ... t? And then what about the high spiritual principles of the actor? It's a pity...
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 4 May 2012 15: 39
            +19
            Yes, no Valera, this is not a loss of scent, but a loss of conscience and a desire to make money. And money doesn’t smell for some
          2. Vadivak
            Vadivak 4 May 2012 16: 21
            +16
            Quote: esaul
            It’s a shame for Guskov - something the man’s scent has completely lost


            Yes it’s for sure, it’s not for nothing that in Russian the acting was called - disgrace
            1. Novosibirsky
              Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 16: 34
              +32
              not for nothing in Russian acting was called - a disgrace


              Come on! You don't need to lump all the actors together! It's just that there are people with a "guard", with pride, with love for their ancestors, the Motherland, and there are people like Guskov ... who are playing, reflecting, lost ... Or stupidly clung to the role, well, for payment, of course, where without her .. The guys "went down", they can't wash them without public repentance.



              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 4 May 2012 21: 00
                +9
                Quote: NovoSibirets
                Come on you! All the actors in one pile do not need to bring down!


                I’m not currency of all, just nowadays, and you brought shots from Soviet cinema, the actors didn’t trade art like prostitutes
                1. Novosibirsky
                  Novosibirsky 5 May 2012 21: 05
                  -1
                  You spoke about acting in principle, in context and the answer.
                  Acting is a necessary thing. Different people are needed, different people are important.
              2. Darn
                Darn 5 May 2012 09: 15
                +4
                Hello Bender-Transdanubia
                Somehow I read about the fact that there are actors who read scripts before shooting and then give an answer whether they will be removed or not. I thought it was nonsense. If you invite and pay money. Now I realized how right they are. You can get into trouble and you’ll get rid of FIG.
              3. gojesi
                gojesi 5 May 2012 16: 09
                +3
                Quote: NovoSibirets
                Come on you! All the actors in one pile

                I think I understand what Vadivak meant and agree with him. Acting as an action was called in Russia - LICENSE, and the Lyceum was not buried even in the same cemetery with people, but exclusively outside the fence, like suicides and executioners ...
                1. Novosibirsky
                  Novosibirsky 5 May 2012 21: 05
                  -1
                  Quote: gojesi
                  Acting as an action was called in Russia - LICENSE, and the Lyceum was not buried even in the same cemetery with people, but exclusively outside the fence, like suicides and executioners ...

                  How many nonsense has been done in Russia ..?
              4. Novosibirsky
                Novosibirsky 12 May 2012 19: 18
                -1
                Wow! Just noticed now! I have nothing to do with the second photo. In its place was another, apparently new way to spam ...
            2. Cadet787
              Cadet787 4 May 2012 22: 36
              +11
              Prior to that, he treated Guskov as a talented actor, and now he has disappeared for me. Was and was gone.
              1. Charon
                Charon 5 May 2012 00: 26
                +4
                There, in the picture, another muzzle flashes. By participating in this film, the second unnamed one canceled his role in "Brest Fortress".
                1. Sniper 1968
                  Sniper 1968 5 May 2012 20: 29
                  +1
                  Charon,
                  Quote: Charon
                  ... By participating in this film, the second unnamed one canceled his role in "Brest Fortress".

                  And the role of Dimona in the cult "Boomer" too ... Prostitute.
        2. Desert Fox
          Desert Fox 4 May 2012 15: 15
          0
          People, delete this post and don’t make a fuss! NEGATIVE PR, SAME PR! THAN MORE PROHIBITIONS FOR FILM, THERE ARE MORE WALKING IN THE BRAIN, A STUPID BROADCASTER THINK TO SEE IT !!! And since 80% of school-age writers on this site can make them even more keen to watch it, or they might not have noticed it. And his units would have looked, and so, thanks to your efforts, dozens would have looked, and this nonsense will not doubtlessly touch their little, not strong mind ... Think for yourself, the more you can’t speak, the more you want to look ...

          And the channel’s leadership will not listen to you all, they have such requests in bulk. Do you think few people are protesting against various broadcasts of various contents or feature films?
          1. TiGRoO
            TiGRoO 4 May 2012 15: 40
            +18
            Nonsense, on this site "shkoloty" is not more than 20% (since many are not interested in the army), therefore, most of the adults who will not let their children see this *****.
            1. Desert Fox
              Desert Fox 4 May 2012 16: 44
              +1
              Quote: TiGRoO
              Nonsense, on this site "shkoloty" no more than 20% (since many are not interested in the army),


              I beg of you. Why then are there so many stupid comments on military topics? Of course, some of them are written by adults trying to pass as clever, but most of them are left by children. Since some comments written here are simply not born in the brain of an adult.
              1. TiGRoO
                TiGRoO 4 May 2012 17: 12
                +4
                These 20% are more active. laughing
          2. Ustas
            Ustas 4 May 2012 15: 43
            +16
            And since 80% of school age writers on this site can make them even more keen to watch it,

            If young people read our reviews on this site, they will already be warned about the falsehood of this film. Worse if young people look without reading this.
          3. Darn
            Darn 5 May 2012 09: 36
            +1
            Hello Maxim
            I read your comment, everything seems to be right, but I can’t agree with you and that’s why. If a person is looking for the latest movie rentals, he sees this movie and draws a conclusion, and if he hears about it from the beginning, he will read the comments , I’m already thinking whether it’s worth watching. Moreover, I met comments on other sites about this creation, and there are more negative reviews.
        3. Aleksey67
          Aleksey67 4 May 2012 15: 24
          +20
          Quote: Vadivak
          Fost was blown away and said that he had specially invented this story “in order to strengthen the“ Russian-German friendship ”!


          Topic article

          We are especially pleased with the fate of the Russian-Ukrainian-German film "4 Days in May", which belongs to the novelties of the genre of humane military-anti-Soviet fantasy.

          This genre, which has developed over the past decade, already has its own canons and deserves consideration as a separate phenomenon. The following conditions are mandatory in it:

          1) The plot is based on events that are presented as real historical ones.

          2) These events depict the Russian army in the form of an extremely vile, bloody criminal and satanic stupid formation, in which normal people are occasionally found.

          3) A lot of money is allocated for the film.

          4) After the fact the authors of the stories admit that "real historical events" are a lie.

          Recall briefly the most impressive milestones.

          "Bastards" - about the Soviet homeless children, whom the NKVD trained in the Great Patriotic War on small saboteurs to be thrown into the German rear. The scriptwriter V. Kunin first assured that he himself studied at such a special school of the NKVD, and then admitted that he had lied. In fact, there were such special schools - but the Nazis, not ours.

          "Ninth Company" is about Soviet soldiers whom the stupid Soviet command forgot in Afghanistan and who died almost without exception in the battle with the Mujahideen. Director F. Bondarchuk assured that this was so, but he was refuted by the surviving in large numbers veterans of the historic ninth company, famous for the historical battle.

          "Citadel" is about Soviet soldiers who were sent to storm a certain German citadel with sticks in 1943 or 1944 to show the whole world that the Germans are bad. N.S. Mikhalkov assured that something like this could have been. Comments from the stunned historians did not even follow.

          The film "4 Days in May" tells the story of a Soviet officer, played by actor Alexei Guskov, who settled down with his soldiers in Northern Germany in 1945. Good Soviet soldiers occupy an orphanage and take German soldiers prisoner. At this time, the outnumbered bad Soviet soldiers suddenly want to rape all German children and, gnashing their teeth and flashing anti-sills, try to take the orphanage by storm. Good Soviet soldiers unite with good Nazi soldiers and defend children.

          According to Guskov, who is also the producer of the picture, the basis of events is a historical fact. Namely: in 2005 Guskov heard on the radio how someone Dmitry Fost was talking about this incident.

          As the Russian military historian Alexei Isaev later proved, someone Dmitry Fost lied and invented everything. Later and Dmitry Fost himself admitted this.

          But the film for $ 5,6 million has already been shot and was released - both German and Russian.

          In Russia, its 100 copies in February raised $ 28 thousand. That is, this muck went with empty halls.

          What else, by the way, pleases: in Germany, this picture also raised just $ 90 thousand.
          1. Hans grohman
            Hans grohman 4 May 2012 15: 35
            +17
            I fully agree with the opinion expressed in the article. On my own I would like to add a few words about the need to adopt amendments to the relevant legal acts, so that henceforth such "creativity" would be regarded solely as "actions discrediting state power, symbols, (and, in general, Memory)", with appropriate punishment of such figures.
            It is time to begin to defend at least in the information war.
            1. Novosibirsky
              Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 15: 58
              +5
              Quote: Hans Grohman
              I would like to add a few words about the need to adopt amendments to the relevant legal acts, so that henceforth such "creativity" would be regarded exclusively as "actions discrediting state power, symbols ...,

              Or regarded as propaganda of homosexuality! wassat What a recent felony!
          2. baskoy
            baskoy 4 May 2012 16: 07
            +2
            Or maybe this film should be shown on TV? So that people would know who is who. To allocate money, to withdraw, to act in such a film - you have to be a moral monster! Why is it necessary to think that the people are "rams" and will definitely believe non-people for whom one criterion is loot? An extra splinter will not hurt Ilya Muromets, so that he can tear off the stove faster.
            1. gr0011
              gr0011 5 May 2012 17: 09
              +1
              Or maybe not to hide - that is. And these vile false films, and other lies - and use the show of all this to reveal the situation in the world, to reveal this lie and those who lie so and why they lie. In order to identify such a phenomenon, so that people would know about such a massive and diligently industrially produced lie, we learn to see it, to distinguish it.
              A lie, when it declares itself so visibly, in such a large volume, is substituted.
              We cannot ban it. Through films and texts on the Web, through various TV channels, through books and media, lies are still rushing.
              And when such a lie is put on display in such a massive form as on NTV, and in other cases (but in small portions of lies it’s more difficult and ineffective to shoot) - use the display of this lie to open it.
              Where and how?
              There are, so far, places. On the web, in the media.
              And further.
              This lie is criminal. And therefore, it is necessary not to ask (!) Those who disseminate it to abolish the propaganda of lies in one specific case (a tendency, the work of pushing conscious lies will remain, will be carried out further), namely, to demand the bringing to trial of liars, defaming memory, perverting truth, with this - perverting the understanding of truth, life (and not just the younger generation) and perverting, as a result, human nature.
              How to deal with such methods? This statement deserves to be world-class. The authors of lies and those who distribute it. It is necessary to file a lawsuit with the highest world level. And the reaction of all these authorities (at all levels) will show the citizens (of the Earth) the face, essence of these organizations, authorities.
              Dangerously? Yes. So no need to rock the boat.
              Or - instead of appeals, especially - requests, and even demands, to the courts, including - if you understand the futility, and the worthlessness of the frauds of this kind, then we must act by other methods. Strengthen yourself. So that it would not be possible to take you with your bare hands and not with your bare hands as soon as you imagine that you are in the way.

              Yes, books, movies of a different, more truthful content, and - strong, to take for the living - should be distributed. But - is there such an opportunity? Isn't it more correct to focus on the methods presented in the previous paragraph?
      4. Sniper 1968
        Sniper 1968 4 May 2012 17: 00
        +19
        esaul,
        Quote: esaul
        about the unwanted display of this craft and the forecast of negative consequences from this show!

        Hello, friend! I absolutely agree. This film was made for our youth. We, who know about THIS WAR firsthand, cannot get these cheap things. Their goal is young minds .... They will make a film about Soviet punishers by the next Victory Day, who burned peaceful burghers in barns ... Need censorship. Regards.
        1. Goga
          Goga 4 May 2012 17: 43
          +9
          Sniper 1968 - Good day Sergey, I totally agree "+". And after all, what is interesting, on NTV, the "owners" somehow change, the composition changes, and the dirty trick is as it was, and remains - remember the rental of the "film" of the Passion of Christ - and the Patriarch asked and the people shouted - no, in spite of everyone they showed an abomination ... With NTV, it is necessary to publicly decide, right down to how in 1993 Ostankino was taken by storm, how much can this abomination be tolerated? And all these guskovs and others like them ("artists"), at the first appearance in public - to drown in spitting.
          1. Sniper 1968
            Sniper 1968 4 May 2012 17: 49
            +2
            Goga,
            Dear Igor, I am ready to subscribe to your every word. Healthy "PLUS".
            1. Goga
              Goga 4 May 2012 18: 11
              +10
              Sniper 1968 - Sergei, for the first time regretted that I live in Siberia - it's too far to get to the scoundrels - I just feel my duty to my grandfather, a front-line soldier - to put these "creative" personalities on the "scoreboard" angry .
              But Guskov then ... - the son of an officer, a military pilot ... "producer" - played too much! angry
              1. Sniper 1968
                Sniper 1968 4 May 2012 18: 15
                +9
                Goga,
                Quote: Gogh
                Guskov then ... - the son of an officer, a military pilot ... "producer" - played too much!

                Igor, apparently, for some "people" pieces of paper with dead American presidents are more important than Memory and Conscience ... God is the Judge of all ...
                1. Goga
                  Goga 4 May 2012 18: 49
                  +7
                  Sniper 1968 - Sergei, I understand that this is somehow not according to the Orthodox, but I really want to "reward" them for their deeds even before God's judgment (or maybe this would be God's judgment?)
        2. olegyurjewitch
          olegyurjewitch 4 May 2012 19: 48
          +6
          [quote = Sniper 1968]. This film is made for our youth. We, who know about THIS WAR firsthand, cannot be penetrated by these cheap things. Their goal is young minds .. [/ quote
          You said right, we will understand, we will spit and forget, but young people who do not really know history, or know from modern, new history, where many facts are far from the truth, reworked beyond recognition, in attempts to show the failure of the USSR, with ease take all this action for the truth. And it will be much more difficult to instill in young people the real truth based on real events and with the participation of real people than the "truth" that art dealers impose on them, harming the undeveloped sense of awareness of what is happening in reality and in fiction.
          1. Sniper 1968
            Sniper 1968 4 May 2012 21: 26
            +8
            olegyurjewitch,
            Well, how else to defeat this, according to Dulles, "... the most rebellious people in the world ..."? Only from the inside. Good luck.
        3. gojesi
          gojesi 5 May 2012 16: 19
          +3
          Sergey hello! NTV removed the film from the screening! Hooray! We won! In return put "In August 44th" You know, the coolest book about the war, of all that I have read about it, this is Bogomolov's book - "In August 44th or the MOMENT OF TRUTH" I saw the film itself a few years ago ... Rubbish, fake! no comparison with the book, as they say, and "did not lie close" ... Youngsters must READ this !!! Nothing deeper, more interesting, dynamic has been written in Russia ... yet
      5. YARY
        YARY 4 May 2012 19: 09
        +8
        And deal with the customers and inspirers for this "g-opening" !!! angry am
      6. beech
        beech 4 May 2012 19: 11
        +6
        But when a parade of SSesovtsy takes place in some thread of Estonia, our rulers are outraged, they say how it is possible. And when such treacherous films are made, it’s nothing. let the people look, and then they are surprised that something has become a lot of natsik and other moral freaks !! I understand that our government does not like communists, but like that, to shit and denigrate the past, the great war, the great sorrow, the great victory, even they should be ashamed.

        And all sorts of borissa and Mikhalkov there, they are also corrupt, pay them and they will remove a type of thread like five days in August. All of them must be put on the wall, their pretense is comparable to treason !!!
      7. sinandju
        sinandju 4 May 2012 20: 44
        +5
        The point is that we need to support the call of the "Military Review" team to the NTV directorate about the unwanted display of this craft and the forecast of negative consequences from this display! I SUPPORT this appeal - UNIFORMALLY!

        I fully support, moreover, it is necessary that this film does not pay off for us completely - neither in sales of discs, nor on channels. If this film is launched in the grid not only on May 9, but in general, and on any channel, it needs to be boycotted, so that it would be unfair and unprofitable to shoot such chernukha, and it may be embarrassing for our actors and next time will think whether to accept such offers.
      8. lesnik
        lesnik 5 May 2012 12: 03
        0
        KULISTIKOV Vladimir Mikhailovich - Director General of NTV Television Company OJSC was awarded the Order "FOR SERVICE TO THE FATHERLAND" OF III DEGREE seen in this film sad and they’re unlikely to be removed from the show
        http://news.kremlin.ru/ref_notes/1211
        1. whuser400
          whuser400 5 May 2012 12: 09
          0
          FOR MERITIES TO THE AMERICAN FATHERLAND !!!!
          For our fatherland, Russia, he is a JUDAH and a traitor-VLASOVETS !!! They were not even taken prisoner !!!! Get your own !!!!
      9. Very smart
        Very smart 5 May 2012 12: 23
        +4
        Greetings, Valery.
        It is absolutely necessary to support the appeal. But...
        I did not want to write, but accumulated.
        Do you know who won the Second World War?
        "Inglorious Ki" while they were "Rescuing Private Ryan".
        And where is our new movie about the war ?! I consider N. Mikhalkov a genius. Only “Genius could remove“ His among strangers ... ” But the "Citadel" ... Well, why is chernukha everywhere. Tired of it. Life is not easy anyway. I want movies, albeit heavy, but positive. “Only old people go into battle” - a masterpiece of the great Soviet cinema. L. Bykov is an anguished actor. Everything is hard there - but "..we will live !!!". “Zhenya, Zhenechka and Katyusha”, “17 Moments of Spring”, “Shield and Sword”, etc. Every normal person has his favorite war film. But show the one who has the Citadel. He is sick. On the whole head.
        And nature does not tolerate emptiness. There are no our good positive films - such crafts as "4 days ..." appear. Guskov is an excellent actor, and, apparently, he worked for decent grandmothers. God be his judge. But the bottom line is that ours is not there. NO!!!! There is no vision of the role of the Red Army in the liberation of Europe from fascism. It is Europe, which excites not only Russians. We have great actors, already a decent technical base, the state is providing assistance. And where are the films ??? !!! They used to be, but now they don’t. There are no films about life in the occupied territories, about interaction with the local population. Probably, everything was not going smoothly, but it needs to be shown, clarified. You can give the theme a romantic halo ... Well, I'm not a screenwriter, but I know what I want to see.

        I WANT A GOOD INTERESTING POSITIVE FILM WITH BEST ACTORS FROM OUR BEST DIRECTORS !!!!!!

        In the meantime, this is not possible - all sorts of climb ... And we are ... discussing everything ... The flag is in our hands. And NTV is a well-known chernushny office. You can expect anything from them. They are in their repertoire.
        1. Elena Nick
          Elena Nick 5 May 2012 18: 13
          -1
          Go to the movies and watch the movie "Match" - it's worth it. You can learn a lot about this film on the website "However".
    2. woland05
      woland05 4 May 2012 16: 36
      +7
      Join, comrade! Slop film, do not make him advertisements so often mentioned ...
      1. esaul
        esaul 4 May 2012 17: 37
        +8
        Sniper 1968,
        woland05,


        Greetings, comrades! I hope, at least to some extent, our comments will work in the right direction. drinks
        1. woland05
          woland05 4 May 2012 19: 28
          +6
          Salute, Valera! Glad to see you online! I watched this movie. I will say more, waiting for him. According to the descriptions, there seemed to be a psychological military-social art house (what a horror!). I went to him in the cinema, with my girlfriend, as expected, but here is such a trash. We left the hall - I still had such rot in my soul, I thought in the face to give someone to be witty - but not solid somehow ... I’m fighting for the return of censorship, to be honest ...
    3. gojesi
      gojesi 4 May 2012 19: 41
      +4
      Quote: Vanek
      I didn’t even read the article.

      right Vanyok, do not bother ... there are so many letters, these "respected moderators" have written. Take care of your head ...
    4. borisst64
      borisst64 4 May 2012 19: 42
      +7
      A colossal number of people believe that they are showing the "truth" on television. And the worst thing is that children accept the history of their state through films. Such a film is worse than sabotage! It hurts for generations to come.
    5. nnnnnnnnn
      nnnnnnnnn 4 May 2012 19: 45
      +10
      But we watched this fiction
      Review by Victor Marakhovsky http://www.odnako.org/blogs/show_18043/
      Dear readers! The original version of the script for the film “Brest Fortress” revealed the mystic of war. The scenario began with the fact that the ghost of the Lady Walks With the Automaton through the ruins of the fortress and shoots the Germans in ghostly bursts. Fortunately, the Belarusian officials rebelled, who did not understand the symbolism of death, and the Moscow creators had to make a normal human film.
      If you are wondering what happens when Belarusian officials are not around - let's talk about the new film by the honored director Karen Georgievich Shakhnazarov “The White Tiger”. Which is positioned as a gift to veterans and in general a film for the Victory Day. To make out this film is important because it is the definitive diagnosis of a whole generation of creators.

      ... somewhere in the war. Summer. After the battle, our soldiers walk along the tattered edge, picking up wounded and killed comrades. The tractor is trying to tow one of the burned T-34 - but it turns out that it was attached to the hands of the management of the tankman. It turns out that he is alive, though burnt by a daughter. Tankmen laid on a stretcher and sent to the doctors.

      The opening scene of the “White Tiger” is, dear readers, a completely normal starting scene for a military movie. Even the absurd hope creeps in that they will show us the war movies.
      But no. Already in the following shots, art, symbolism and mystic war begins slowly. The burned soldier named Ivan for starters not only survives, but also fantastically regenerates, while losing memory of the arthouse. He also has superpowers cutting through, and he starts talking to tanks. And still on the backs of our troops goes, emerging from nowhere, and attacking from behind a huge mystical white German tank "Tiger".
      For some time, despite the growing heat of art and symbolism, the plot is still going. By order of Zhukov, a refined T-34-85 is given to the unconscious Ivan and sent to the hunt for the "Tiger". Ivan, though not too spectacular (the opponents never even appear together in the same frame), but still hunt, as in a real action game. Although in the breaks - apparently, in order to smooth the guilt of the director before pure art - he kneels in an open field and silently prays to Tank God. And the White Tiger, in turn, dissolves in the air and flies over the swamps.
      Ivan meets with the White Tigris once (loses), second (in a draw), everything moves towards a denouement, and here ...
      And then - suddenly - nothing happens.
      Because at this place the mask finally falls off the kin, albeit with a fool, but a military film - and we see the brutal grin of the art house.
      And instead of a denouement, suddenly Berlin. Where, within 15 minutes, the German military command signs Zhukov's capitulation.
      Then Keitel, Friedenburg and Stumpf for 15 minutes, who signed the surrender, suddenly silently eat strawberries with cream.
      Then, along some broken-down German street for about 15 minutes, ours suddenly lead German prisoners. Then the film briefly, for about five minutes, recalls Lieutenant Ivan, who says: “The White Tiger” has lurked, he will wait at least a hundred years, but he needs to be burned.
      And what do you think we finally see the scene of the final battle? No. We see a sudden Hitler. A sudden Hitler sits in a richly furnished fireplace room by the fire and, turning to his interlocutor, hidden by a shadow, sums up the psychoanalytic result of World War II. We Nazis, he says, “just openly did what the Europeans were afraid to tell their wives.” All of Europe secretly thirsted, but we did. At that the film ends. Captions are coming, in the hall you can hear the amazed questions of an ill-mannered youth who came on a tip from the World Of Tanks: “What about the tank? Won or not? ” Captions to youth do not answer.

      Therefore, I will answer for them.

      You see, dear youth. When you were not yet in the world, the young bright director Karen Shakhnazarov made the film Courier, in which he pointedly pointed out holes in the Soviet official world picture. Then he shot the film “City of Zero”, in which he pointed out even more caustically the holes in the Soviet official world picture. Then the Soviet power ended, and Karen Georgievich made the film "Dreams" - about how bad it is when there is absolutely no picture of the world. And recently, officials wrote to him 330 million state rubles for the film by May 9 and left, forgetting to control the creator. What did the homeless creator do? Correctly. He reached for the nearest “military” book, which was read in his cultural environment (the schizoid necrophilic novel of a certain Boyashov, “Tankist”, was included in the short list of the Big Book Prize). Karen Georgievich honestly tried to remove something decent based on her motives. He didn’t let either the vile red commanders, the cannon Russian meat driven to certain death, the German babies under the caterpillars, or other artistic finds of the writer Boyashov into the film adaptation. But the film shows with merciless clarity that Karen Georgievich also does not understand the difference between his playful unconscious - and what should be shown to people. Between his ideas about the symbolism of death - and a big-budget movie about the Great Patriotic War, in which there were enough horrors and without a fictitious caterpillar Freudianism.
      Because it’s one thing to accurately criticize the official picture of the world, pointing out its contradictions - and it’s quite another to try to build your own, based on read and spied arthouses. This, we note, is not only the trouble of Karen Georgievich. This is the misfortune of the entire generation of the current 60-year-old elders of art, who have not become independent. They have all the secondary signs of elders - and age, and awards, and positions, and communication. They do not have only the main thing that in traditional society gives the elderly value: they are not the guardians of the picture of the world. They just don't have it. And when they are given budgets in their hands, their helplessness becomes visible to everyone. As a result, last time on Victory Day we watched the N.S. Mikhalkov's “Show Tits” phantasmagoria. And this time on Victory Day we see a large, elusive and undefeated fascist tank sneaking up behind and waving a huge thick white barrel. Do not ask if you defeated him at the end or not. It does not matter. Because it was not really a tank. It was a symbol, and it symbolized something there in the tortuous inner world of the creator .... That, in fact, was all that I wanted to say about the White Tiger movie.
      PS. The book was written by Ilya Vladimirovich Boyashov "Tankman, or" White Tiger "
      1. Kars
        Kars 4 May 2012 19: 48
        -3
        Quote: nnnnnnnnn
        Ilya Vladimirovich Boyashov "Tankman, or" White Tiger "

        I didn’t see the film, but I liked the book --- though I do not recommend reading it to young men with a weak mind.
        1. Zynaps
          Zynaps 4 May 2012 22: 42
          +1
          I would not advise with a stronger one. due to the fact that good toilet paper for some reason was ruined by idiotic text.
      2. sauthmen
        sauthmen 6 May 2012 09: 29
        0
        The "White Tiger" hid, he will wait at least a hundred years, but he needs to be burned.

        With this message the author of the film wants to warn us: "Quiet! The Germans are in the city."
        Or speaking in the language of the Latins: "Parabellum". (maybe this is the common sense of the film?)
        Everyone wants to eat, and Shakhnazarov with Guskov and others like them is no exception, and we will leave the discussion of decency and conscience on their conscience.
    6. gojesi
      gojesi 4 May 2012 21: 02
      +8
      I suggest !!!
      To everyone who protests against mockery of Russian history and the unpunished groaning of the acts of our fathers, WRITE A LETTER WITH A PROTEST TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE RF. Here at this address:

      http://letters.kremlin.ru/

      you need to write quickly so that he can take steps to ban the NTV demonstration ... And in the future to adopt a package of laws prohibiting mockery of our history with taxpayer money!
      1. Zynaps
        Zynaps 4 May 2012 22: 46
        +3
        one can appeal to conscience only if the creator has it even in its infancy. in her absence, to awaken a conscience in them - that to try to reanimate a mannequin. contacting the Vlasovites in power is about the same crap.
        1. 755962
          755962 4 May 2012 23: 46
          +3
          In general, I don’t watch TV. And on May 7, I’ll cut off the cable. I’ll take my son to the dacha. Really, before such a great holiday, I won’t show what I’ve watched all my life before these remakes !!! or "Only old men go to battle." Eh the media ...
          1. Darn
            Darn 5 May 2012 10: 00
            +1
            On uoytube I saw a video, I don’t remember the name, there the teacher read out an essay on history which was at 5. There’s such nonsense. That Lenin led the defense of Moscow and then laughed in a current spirit. And now I don’t laugh, did this boy or girl grow up and began to write the scripts of all such films about history. And where did they emphasize such information?
    7. Amur
      Amur 5 May 2012 09: 49
      +2
      Screening of the film "4 days in May!" - CANCEL!
      1. pepper
        pepper 5 May 2012 11: 20
        -3
        Allow all the same for the people themselves to determine: what should they watch and what not? Have you agreed? Young people are not as stupid as many people think on this site, people themselves will figure it out. Censorship and shtetl-imperial propaganda have reached unprecedented proportions in the Russian media, they already want to get into all spheres of life and tell them what to do and how to think ...
        1. whuser400
          whuser400 5 May 2012 11: 53
          +2
          Well, fine - you open the doors of your apartment and let the homeless people decide for themselves whether you are crap on the table or urinate on yourself. They will figure it out for themselves!
          Here the situation is worse - on NTV not people, but traitors - there is a war for Russia, the continuation of the Patriotic War of the 41-45s! To allow traitors and agents of the American intelligence services to spoil the air not of their own, but of the people - this is complicity in betrayal or extreme dibilism, complete relaxation of the brain!
    8. whuser400
      whuser400 5 May 2012 11: 54
      +1
      We urgently need to send letters to the president, the administration and the popular front:
      http://letters.kremlin.ru/
      http://narodfront.ru/letter.html
      This is a war with Russia and the Russian people. On NTV and other media there is a fifth column of traitors who are fattening on American money !!!!

      Moreover, the Nazis were homosexuals !!
      Homosexual roots of the Nazi party:
      http://www.ruskline.ru/analitika/2012/05/02/golubaya_svastika/
      http://www.ruskline.ru/analitika/2012/05/05/golubaya_svastika/
  2. Set
    Set 4 May 2012 14: 38
    +10
    what are you doing!
    1. Dmitriy69
      Dmitriy69 4 May 2012 15: 25
      +15
      Quote: CeT
      what are you doing!

      It was considered that in the struggle for ratings all means are good and that this scandalous bullshit will help them.
      Gentlemen nteveshniki forgot that not everything in this world is measured by loot!
    2. Ion coaelung
      Ion coaelung 4 May 2012 16: 33
      +3
      You can't "create" such a thing !!! If in truth the picture is not as truthful as described above, it cannot be broadcast! Imagine, on holidays, veterans who are still alive, turn on the TV to watch, and there is such a scuffle of facts and actions ... And if someone turns out to have a heart attack because of worries? Whoever wants to, let him go to the movies, pump him on the internet, but showing such a lie to the masses is like putting McFaul as acting president for a while.
      If I don’t forget, I personally download the film and watch it, but only to see how far the carriers of democracy have gone ...
    3. whuser400
      whuser400 5 May 2012 12: 14
      +3
      They consciously do this - they are traitors, Vlasovites !!! The Americans are paying them for this !!!!
  3. Darn
    Darn 4 May 2012 14: 39
    +9
    And so I do not watch the telly, and on May 7 NTV. I will not watch.
  4. Kibl
    Kibl 4 May 2012 14: 42
    +20
    I DO NOT UNDERSTAND ONE, WHY DO I TURN UP NEW FILMS ABOUT WAR WITH DUBIOUS CONTENT, IF THERE ARE REALLY BEAUTIFUL MOVIES INCLUDED IN THE WORLD'S WALK OF KINEMOTROPHIC! request
    1. Cripple cross
      Cripple cross 4 May 2012 15: 07
      +14
      Quote: KIBL
      I CAN'T UNDERSTAND ONE

      Yes, it's time to understand ................ This is also a war, only information. And NTV is actually a very vile channel that shows a solid G .... And now there is also a frank ANTI-SOVIETSCHINA, as they would have put it before. It is a pity there is no article for such a thing. This is a frank substitution of values ​​and vile Western propaganda, as well as the desecration of the blessed memory of not only the soldiers who defended our Motherland, but also the entire Russian people.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 4 May 2012 15: 36
        +10
        Quote: CrippleCross
        This is also a war, only informational. And NTV is actually a really nasty channel


        I support, they would call the news of Tel Aviv why stir up the water
    2. Khabarov
      Khabarov 4 May 2012 15: 43
      +9
      In addition to this abomination, many other "masterpieces" have been filmed in recent years. I don’t understand who finances all this. Goat understands that a one-off film cannot even pay off under any circumstances. However, with enviable tenacity and productivity, they continue to rivet. And you can also remember another bastard creation - "Bastards" - a rare muck. The creators are anathema.
      1. Cripple cross
        Cripple cross 4 May 2012 16: 22
        +6
        Quote: Khabarov
        I don’t understand who finances all this. It is clear to Kose that a one-time film cannot under any circumstances even pay off.

        And I do not ask who FINANCES and whether acupuncture is necessary here in terms of money for views.
        Those who finance payback receive an order of magnitude greater than the cost of rentals and movie tickets. The purpose of the film is to replace the history and consciousness of a whole generation and not even one.
        1. Darn
          Darn 5 May 2012 10: 38
          +2
          And yesterday, on the first channel, there was a curious story in the German city of Schonewald that the cemetery restored the Soviet wars, the Germans themselves take care of the graves voluntarily. It is strange in our world that someone is doing a good deed and for free. So dear grief, the screenwriters can’t do it, you have people and they are not the only ones who know who is who.

          See the original material at http://www.1tv.ru/news/world/206214
    3. Sniper 1968
      Sniper 1968 4 May 2012 17: 09
      +7
      Kibl,
      I agree. Although there are new films, for example: "In August 44" based on Bogomolov ...
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 4 May 2012 17: 20
        +7
        Quote: Sniper 1968
        "In August 44th" according to Bogomolov ..


        I read, before it was published in the Roman newspaper. And the film was shot with a bang, although Bogomolov did not like it

        I’m what it is for, just the author from the very beginning in the subject, after all, the intelligence commander in the 126th light mountain rifle corps, SMERShevets
        1. Sniper 1968
          Sniper 1968 4 May 2012 17: 29
          +5
          Vadivak,
          I myself didn’t read it many times, Vadim. And now there is a book. I knew WHAT people wrote about. Regards.
      2. Goga
        Goga 4 May 2012 17: 54
        +6
        Sniper 1968 - Greetings again, Sergei, - the book was simply read and re-read in one breath - and the film (thanks to "Old Man"), after many attempts, was made and done well, only NTV has other "interests". I have no exact information, but there, in NTV, in my opinion, Gazprom has "control" - well, where does the "national treasure" look? angry Who do they work for? Or are there (in Gazprom) some Fursen sitting on the board of directors?
        1. Sniper 1968
          Sniper 1968 4 May 2012 18: 31
          +4
          Goga,
          Quote: Gogh
          Who do they work for?

          Old man, I don’t know who they work for. I know that it is against us ... sad sad sad
      3. Novosibirsky
        Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 18: 14
        +3
        Yes, what is it new! )) 2001 year! He’s already gone the second ten! )) Cool novel, though it was read hard for some reason ...
        In short, "Grandma has arrived" !!!
    4. whuser400
      whuser400 5 May 2012 12: 15
      0
      Then, that this misinformation is part of the war against Russia through bought traitors on NTV. At the helm of our media are people who hate Russia and the Russian people — traitors and Judas !!!
  5. predator
    predator 4 May 2012 14: 44
    +13
    this film is not just a stone in the garden, but a tub of slops for the memory of our grandfathers-warriors of the liberators!
  6. Vanek
    Vanek 4 May 2012 14: 48
    +10
    WHO PUMPS ABOUT WHAT TO SHOW?

    YES YOUR HANDS WILL DRY.
  7. Armata
    Armata 4 May 2012 14: 52
    +11
    I never liked NTV, (I generally don't like films where they show how cool the bandyugans are, and NTV makes money on this), but after that I start to despise the people who make up and sign the broadcasts. May 9 is not a celebration of bandits and our grandfathers do not need to know that now all sorts of corrupt people are writing about them. Thanks to the Voennoye Obozreniye team for such a step.
  8. koksalek
    koksalek 4 May 2012 14: 53
    +7
    If this film really discredits the memory of our soldiers, then in his trash! And the NTV channel is overgrown with dirt, the last six months I don’t watch it at all
  9. Novosibirsky
    Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 14: 53
    +9
    Dear administration! The thing you started is right! I strongly support!
    Is this letter sent in paper form to the NTV Directorate?
    -------------------------------------------------- ----
    P.S. I would not want to introduce a disu, because I don’t remember exactly the source, so I warn you that I should be critical of my post in this part, but somewhere in the past I came across information that Mr. Guskov has German roots! This explains a lot...
    1. Smirnov Vadim
      Smirnov Vadim 4 May 2012 14: 56
      +14
      Send in electronic form, in a day, with a link to this page.
      1. Novosibirsky
        Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 15: 07
        +5
        Thank you, Vadim.
      2. Internet fighter
        Internet fighter 4 May 2012 16: 24
        +1
        Smirnov Vadim
        Send in electronic form, in a day, with a link to this page.

        The initiative is good, but not enough. And there is little time for decision making. But the position itself is very correct.
        It is necessary to attract people and at least unsubscribe them to [email protected].
        Sincerely.
      3. Shuriken
        Shuriken 4 May 2012 19: 52
        +3
        And Medvedev to the site is a must!
    2. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 4 May 2012 14: 58
      +10
      Quote: NovoSibirets
      but somewhere in the past I came across information that Mr. Guskov had German roots!


      Alexey Guskov was born on May 20, 1958 in Poland in the city of Brzeg in the family of a military pilot. He lived in Poland until the age of six, and then his family moved to Kiev.

      When Alexei was 7 years old, his father died "in the line of duty." Alexey Gennadievich recalls: "I lost my father early, at the age of seven. They hid from me that he had died, but I found a mourning telegram. I remember exactly that my letters danced through tears, because I read there:" ... tra ... died. "And this letter" a "fell, and I was so offended! ..".

      Mom tried to make sure that the family did not need anything, and the son did not have a feeling of an inferior family. “We have always celebrated holidays,” says Alexey Guskov. Often traveled to Arkhangelsk. I’m from the roots of Pomors - parents and dads and mothers lived there. Recently I was at the Arkhangelsk festival "Spolokhi" and in the museum I found my genealogy, compiled from church books. "
      1. Novosibirsky
        Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 15: 09
        +1
        That is, no ?! Strange, I have a good memory ... Okay, let’s forget for clarity.
  10. Vadim555
    Vadim555 4 May 2012 14: 54
    +13
    Guys!
    This "film" is not just provocation and filth, it is a challenge.

    PS. The rest of the words addressed to "creators" and "actors" will be deleted by the moderators. Therefore, I will not write.
  11. MoNah535
    MoNah535 4 May 2012 14: 54
    +12
    Well this is how you need to love money, to play in such shit? am
  12. Argentum
    Argentum 4 May 2012 14: 54
    +4
    I am sure that both the directors and the author of this "work" are Jews.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 4 May 2012 15: 39
      +23
      Quote: Argentum
      I am sure that both the directors and the author of this "work" are Jews.

      Director
      Achim von Borris
      Scenario
      Achim von Borris, Edward Reznik
      Prouduser
      Stefan Arndt, Alexey Guskov

      Eduard Reznik was born on November 14, 1960 in Kaliningrad. In 1990 he graduated from the screenwriting faculty of VGIK (workshop of O. Agishev and V. Tulyakova). The author of scripts for a number of "Yeralash" and cartoons. The last film "Hitrovka" Known as the director of series in the style of melodrama. This is his first "war film" and, God forbid, the last in this genre. Filmed "Pay for Love" and then take off ... similar soap.
      1. Sniper 1968
        Sniper 1968 4 May 2012 17: 55
        +11
        Ascetic,
        Well, he has a "sharpening"! And the look is unkind. Not good ...
        1. vladimir64ss
          vladimir64ss 4 May 2012 18: 26
          +6
          Quote: Sniper 1968
          unkind look. Bad

          Such "figures" usually answer all accusations: - for that I built a house for my children.
        2. Voodoo
          Voodoo 5 May 2012 14: 43
          +3
          Sniper 1968
          In nature, buddy! Well, what kind of loot was it gado to count on, so that from "Yeralash" and cartoons to this guana slide down !? ....
          1. vezunchik
            vezunchik 5 May 2012 22: 33
            +3
            so they will sell their mother for money
            1. Sniper 1968
              Sniper 1968 6 May 2012 02: 13
              +2
              vezunchik,
              Quote: vezunchik
              they will sell their mother for money

              ... then they will buy and sell again, but already more expensive ...
        3. gojesi
          gojesi 5 May 2012 21: 59
          +4
          Sergei, the surnames Katz, Reznik and Kagan, "Eds never change! They are waiting for their own pancake messiah ... Now it is clear where the wind was blowing, who the customer is! The ears are sticking out because of Guskov, that's who paid him! Calculate the taxpayers' money from the buggers, ie us. in court !!!
          1. Sniper 1968
            Sniper 1968 5 May 2012 22: 52
            +2
            gojesi,
            Quote: gojesi
            the surnames Katz, Reznik and Kagan are never changed!

            The Levites attack, in the best traditions of the parasites. They are full of all these mountains (H) of donated sewn ... Manipulation of consciousness and the substitution of values ​​are their favorite tricks. Good luck.
      2. freedom
        freedom 4 May 2012 20: 57
        +4
        Evil face, villain's face.
      3. Ruswolf
        Ruswolf 5 May 2012 07: 41
        +6
        Gerard Friedrich Miller.
        One of the first zas-tsev tried to distort Russian history
        Thanks Lomonosov - did not work

        The recall of the commission of the Imperial Russian Academy read: “Miller in all his speech did not show a single case to the glory of the Russian people, but he only mentioned more that it can serve to dishonor, namely: how they (Russians. - S.Ts.) were repeatedly defeated in battles, where by robbery, devastated by fire and sword, and the kings robbed their kings. And finally, it’s worthy of surprise, with what recklessness I used the expression that the Scandinavians successfully conquered all of Russia with their victorious weapons».
        Something like a screenwriter - probably a relative
        And pay attention to the feedback of the commission is very similar to our comments
        and it feels like a review for this movie! PRETENCY THROUGH THE CENTURY!
      4. Simon
        Simon 7 May 2012 07: 52
        +1
        So, he did the right thing, that he hung his face. Although there is much to spit, even the monitor will not regret it. angry
    2. ZUI
      ZUI 4 May 2012 17: 27
      +14
      What do the Jews and your nationalism have to do with it. The problem is not with the Jews, but with the Zionists and the majority of our people, who believe in such shitty films as "penal battalion" and "bastards." As for the Jews, see:
      1. Vadim555
        Vadim555 4 May 2012 17: 53
        +6
        Quote: ZUI
        What does the Jews and your nationalism


        There are no questions for the Jews, and they also defended our Motherland.

        Argentum (2) Today, 14:54 5 I am sure that both the directors and the author of this "work" the Jews

        It is not for nothing that a man wrote JEWS, they are also Zionists. It is impossible to break these concepts.

        MENAHEM SCHNEERSON - “OUR PLANS ABOUT SLAVAN”

        In the media - on radio, television, the press, in art, literature, theater, and cinema, we will gradually supplant the national cadres, replacing them with ours or, in extreme cases, cosmopolitan.

        http://radosvet.net/zhizn/13691-menahem-shneerson-nashi-plany-otnositelno-slavya
        n.html
      2. ZUI
        ZUI 4 May 2012 17: 53
        +11
        And yet - hundreds of thousands of them died fighting for us
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 4 May 2012 21: 14
          +1
          Excuse me, but Mehlis should have been in the first place among the Jewish heroes, this was a man
        2. The centurion
          The centurion 14 May 2012 09: 22
          0
          Quote: ZUI
          And yet - hundreds of thousands of them died fighting for us

          By the way, according to the number of Heroes of the Soviet Union and Full Holders of the Order of Glory per capita of their Jewish population, Jews occupied one of the first places in the USSR, more heroes per capita of their population seemed to be among Ossetians.
      3. Vadivak
        Vadivak 4 May 2012 21: 13
        +1
        That's just Dragunsky is not necessary, to appropriate the work of NIABT "Polygon" you know it is worth a lot
  13. vadimN
    vadimN 4 May 2012 14: 55
    +9
    "... a clear confirmation that the state and society have high hopes for your federal channel."

    That's it! The channel simply fulfills the task. But the task has been the same for many years - to erode patriotic education. And who the customers are - is understandable ...
  14. leon-iv
    leon-iv 4 May 2012 14: 56
    +7
    Emm NTV?
    And what is it where they show chernukha?
    in my opinion I disabled it from my channel package
    1. Vadim555
      Vadim555 4 May 2012 15: 02
      +10
      Quote: leon-iv
      And what is it where they show chernukha?
      I in my opinion disconnected from his channel package


      These bastards who act in film and it remove, it is necessary to disconnect, that in a plaster for a couple of months.
    2. Tiomka
      Tiomka 4 May 2012 15: 12
      0
      judging by the developed hysteria and, if we take into account the frenzied snotty hooray * triotism of the local lemmings, the film was watched less by people than voted against the show. laughing
    3. Leisure
      Leisure 5 May 2012 14: 15
      +2
      Exactly, the sewage channel!
      1. Simon
        Simon 7 May 2012 08: 00
        0
        Good advertisement for NTV channel. wassat
  15. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 4 May 2012 14: 58
    +19
    Hackers patriots, go through the NTV sites so that it doesn't seem a little
    1. Novosibirsky
      Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 15: 10
      +9
      By the way, a good topic!
      1. Internet fighter
        Internet fighter 4 May 2012 16: 26
        +4
        Better write letters here - [email protected]
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 4 May 2012 21: 13
          +4
          Quote: Internet fighter
          It's better to write letters here - [email protected]

          Already writing!
  16. crossbow
    crossbow 4 May 2012 15: 02
    +7
    NTV was once my favorite channel, but with the advent of Gazprom it began to turn yellow and yellow, and this process has become like an eternal one.
  17. saruman
    saruman 4 May 2012 15: 02
    +6
    I support the appeal.
  18. I627z
    I627z 4 May 2012 15: 03
    +4
    So did anyone see the movie?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 4 May 2012 15: 07
      +11
      I have not seen, and thank God. On the radio star, this film was discussed. Rare
    2. Vadim555
      Vadim555 4 May 2012 15: 10
      +9
      Quote: I627z
      I627z Today, 15:03 PM 0 So did anyone see the film?


      What, the plot is not clear?
      And this is before the Great Victory Day!
      The taste does not have to be tasted.
    3. vorobey
      vorobey 4 May 2012 15: 14
      +6
      caught the eye, did not even buy.
    4. Novosibirsky
      Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 15: 24
      +7
      I watched the trailer for the movie! An offscreen voice says the phrase "The film is based on a true story" Point. That in itself is already a lie!
      I will be forced to see today to criticize with a clear conscience.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 4 May 2012 17: 18
        +2
        but there is a link where to look?
        1. Novosibirsky
          Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 18: 31
          +1
          Gleb, the trailer looked on Vkontakte, here is the link, if it opens:
          http://vk.com/search?c[q]=4%20%D0%B4%D0%BD%D1%8F%20%D0%B2%20%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B5&c
          [section] = video & c [sort] = 2 & z = video24735942_162010191

          I’m downloading the movie from the file hosting service, in chorus / quality, you understand there’s no link, google it, I think you will find it, or from torrents. The film is online, that's for sure.
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 4 May 2012 19: 01
            +2
            so they removed it everywhere, at the request of the "copyright holder"
            By the way, the comments in the comments are not all negative
            http://www.fast-torrent.ru/film/4-dnya-v-mae.html
            1. Novosibirsky
              Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 19: 16
              0
              For now, I will shy away from comment ratings. Still, you need to see the whole thing, I'll unsubscribe tomorrow.
              1. Hleb
                Hleb 4 May 2012 19: 22
                0
                yeah! interesting to hear the opinion!
      2. gojesi
        gojesi 5 May 2012 22: 01
        +3
        Quote: NovoSibirets
        I will be forced to see today to criticize with a clear conscience

        You don't have to eat guano to make sure it is guano! Don't look - you'll be cleaner! I haven't watched "Bastards" and won't be under the gun ...
        1. Novosibirsky
          Novosibirsky 5 May 2012 22: 16
          -1
          Quote: gojesi
          it’s not necessary to eat guano at all to make sure that it is guano

          Alas and ah! You have to eat, because life is not divided into "guano" and honey, into black and white. If you want to talk about something in detail - learn the subject!
        2. Sniper 1968
          Sniper 1968 5 May 2012 22: 35
          +1
          gojesi,
          Sasha, we won! The film was removed from the air. Hurray! good yes smile Instead, it will be "In August 44th ..." "Grandma has arrived! .."
    5. mechanic33
      mechanic33 4 May 2012 20: 43
      +1
      just looked
      1. Novosibirsky
        Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 20: 50
        0
        AND? _________________
        1. mechanic33
          mechanic33 4 May 2012 20: 59
          +3
          pancake. the only bad guy in the film is this major, the alleged rapist. the rest seems to be adequate in everything. The turmoil began when the major, who wanted "strawberries", was disarmed and expelled by the scouts, then the major, meeting a column of the Red Army, said that the Vlasovites were sitting in the shelter where the scouts were. Column on the move. There are really controversial points ... request
          1. mechanic33
            mechanic33 4 May 2012 21: 07
            +3
            generally ardent "Anti-Sovietism" is not there ..... You can find some ambiguities of course, but taking into account how the Germans behaved with us ..... The film is just angels ....


  19. sergey69
    sergey69 4 May 2012 15: 07
    +13
    I do not watch modern war films. Not plausible somehow and not natural. A lot of mistakes and modern stereotypes reducing the role of the USSR in the fight against fascism. Soviet films are much more interesting and truthful. From watching Western films about the struggle of the Soviet people against fascism in general, I want to laugh.
    1. ZUI
      ZUI 4 May 2012 18: 06
      +4
      In Soviet films, unfortunately, everything is also far from reality, but their main goal is to glorify the victorious people, to tell about the difficulties and these goals the authors of Soviet films achieved. The goals of the current directors are not clear to me. Over the past 20 plus years, only 2 films have stood - "I am a Russian soldier" (B. Vasilyev was not on the list) and "In August 44" - but everything in it is according to Bogomolov's text.
      1. Novosibirsky
        Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 18: 40
        0
        Quote: ZUI
        In Soviet films, unfortunately, everything is also far from reality,

        In what kind of Soviet films are they "everything is far from reality" if we are talking about war, and not about harvesting on virgin soil? !!
        1. ZUI
          ZUI 6 May 2012 08: 23
          +1
          Yes, in 99% of Soviet films, the role of party bodies has been exacerbated. Understandably, most of the war films were coordinated with the Glavpur MO. Even Ozerov and other "documentary filmmakers" have a lot of factual errors. The description in our cinema of the initial period of the war is generally a separate topic.
          And some Soviet films about the war are generally disgusting to watch, there are few of them, but there are - "Zhenya Zhenya and Katyusha", "Die Hard". War is not a comedy, and any attempts to make a comedy on this topic are certainly doomed to failure.
      2. vezunchik
        vezunchik 5 May 2012 22: 38
        +1
        so whoever pays and orders the music. Movies about the war released in the last 15 years are impossible to watch. One and the same, finally the people opened their mouths. And this is the beginning of insight! ..
      3. Simon
        Simon 7 May 2012 08: 14
        +1
        In my opinion, all military films should be shot on genuine historical events, otherwise this whole story will be turned upside down on this falsification. And in general - it is necessary to return censorship, at least partial, so that such films do not defame our country, people and memory of our ancestors.
  20. Nechai
    Nechai 4 May 2012 15: 08
    +7
    Quote: Vanek
    And in the company "NTV" I will simply be disappointed.

    Just now?!?!?!
    Quote: KIBL
    WHY SPIN NEW FILMS ABOUT WAR WITH DUBIOUS CONTENT

    But how else to redo the mentality of the people? Complete the task set by Dmitry Anatolyevich. Otherwise, it’s not how, the only way is to mold white from black. A white bastard in shit ....
    1. Indigo
      Indigo 4 May 2012 16: 12
      +5
      To show your so-called significance, mediocrity can only take someone out in the mud, and special mediocrity, so as not to get the face down, they smear the dead with mud ....
      1. Drednout
        Drednout 4 May 2012 17: 58
        +6
        Not. One DAM is not to blame. It’s pointless to let all the dogs on him.
      2. ZUI
        ZUI 4 May 2012 18: 07
        -1
        Who set the minus?!?!? angry
  21. Senzey
    Senzey 4 May 2012 15: 08
    +10
    Do we have enough good movies about the war?
    Why on holiday to show such dirt!
    I support - to remove this film from the show.
  22. TiGRoO
    TiGRoO 4 May 2012 15: 09
    +15
    Administration of the site "Military Review", thank you for this article, and the TV channel ENTEVE SHAME !!!
  23. Manager
    Manager 4 May 2012 15: 13
    +11
    I join in numerous objections! I will try to pull as many people as possible to this issue!

    By the way, to the question of films. Now the premiere of the film "White Tiger" ... I have not watched the film. It is about a German tank. But the fact that such films are released on the eve of the anniversary is alarming! Someone is trying very hard. We need to stop it somehow.
    1. Indigo
      Indigo 4 May 2012 16: 16
      +2
      http://nnm.ru/blogs/OlDi/pokolenie-besprizornyh-tvorcov-recenziya-na-belogo-tigr
      ai-tomu-podobnoe /
      1. Novosibirsky
        Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 18: 01
        +3
        Good review. And here is an illustration for her ...
  24. wk
    wk 4 May 2012 15: 13
    +10
    one "military review" is not enough - the site is narrowly specialized, it is necessary for all patriotic moderators to unite ... but only yesterday Medvedev presented the order to Kulistikov, probably in advance for the scandal before Putin's inauguration.
  25. Narkom
    Narkom 4 May 2012 15: 13
    +11
    Well, the fact that the NTV channel is a hole, I knew, but what would it be to such an extent ....
  26. ANTURAG
    ANTURAG 4 May 2012 15: 14
    +10
    I didn’t watch the film, but I understood its meaning from the article and according to your comments. We support moderators and we will watch an asterisk.
  27. Uncle Vova
    Uncle Vova 4 May 2012 15: 17
    +8
    Fritsevsky film - to the trash! NTV - to dissolve! Zatsev-akers - to the black list until the end of days!
    1. Novosibirsky
      Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 16: 27
      +11
      Quote: Uncle Vova
      Zatsev-Akers - blacklisted until the end of days!

      Very true thought. In the moral zugunder of all the mess!
      I remember Menshov's refusal to present the MTV award for the film "Bastards". Man! Taking off my hat.
      1. Goga
        Goga 4 May 2012 22: 04
        +7
        Novosibirets - That's right, Colleague, also remembered how Menshov on the stage threw the packet to the floor and left. I am not an admirer of Menshov’s creative talents, but this act of his is highly respected.
        And in general - where are all these advertised strrrrrashnye rrrrrrruskie nats. organizations marching in black shirts and oiled boots? What, such cool "extremists" - two, three rotten filmmakers, cannot break their ribs for such an insult to the people? Or will they not be paid for it?
        And without payment, does patriotism disappear somewhere?
        1. Novosibirsky
          Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 22: 13
          +2
          Quote: Gogh
          I am not an admirer of Menshov’s creative talents

          Sorry, the question is off topic - do you not like Menshov's films? !! "Moscow Does Not Believe in Tears", "Love and Doves", "Chinese Service"? !! These are films that will outlive us for many years. Iconic items. Classic. Favorite movies of all time ...
          1. Goga
            Goga 4 May 2012 22: 28
            +6
            Novosibirets - Colleague, I in no way want to reduce the merits of V. Menshov and as a director and as an actor - and there wasn’t anything bad to say about his work in my thoughts, I just like other films, and as I wrote, I relate to Menshov great respect.
            1. Novosibirsky
              Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 22: 29
              +3
              I understand you. Reception )))
              1. Goga
                Goga 4 May 2012 22: 39
                +5
                Novsibirets - Colleague, just in addition, I really like films based on brilliant literary works so that the impression from them is not inferior to the pleasure of reading a book. A classic example is "Heart of a Dog"
                1. Novosibirsky
                  Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 22: 48
                  +2
                  You will not believe! When I read your phrase
                  Quote: Gogh
                  films made from brilliant literary works
                  I have an association with "Dog's Heart" !!! Imagine my surprise when I finished reading your post! ))
                  1. Goga
                    Goga 5 May 2012 05: 52
                    +2
                    Novosibirsk - Well, Colleague, even in such a "delicate" matter as personal preferences in cinema, we found a lot in common! drinks
    2. Internet fighter
      Internet fighter 4 May 2012 16: 28
      +5
      Yes, NTV completely descended to criminality and provocative films.
      One dirt, courts and bandits.
  28. PabloMsk
    PabloMsk 4 May 2012 15: 19
    +9
    Dear editors of the Military Review!

    Are you completely crazy?
    We found someone to write letters to .... Mr. Kulistikov ....?
    Even snickering journalists started to run away from the channel from NTV editorial idiocy, and you, like, decided to look for the truth there ....
    1. Novosibirsky
      Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 15: 21
      +10
      "Water whetstone." (Russian proverb.)
      1. Darn
        Darn 4 May 2012 16: 15
        +4
        PabloMsk
        What can you suggest that NTV refuse to show?
        1. Novosibirsky
          Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 18: 02
          0
          Yes sir!
        2. zevs379
          zevs379 4 May 2012 18: 04
          +4
          Only the NTV boycott. angry
      2. IGR
        IGR 4 May 2012 22: 38
        +3
        not in this life .... although yesterday he received a "black" mark
    2. Internet fighter
      Internet fighter 4 May 2012 16: 29
      +5
      Are you completely crazy?

      Our country is our rule!
  29. kashik
    kashik 4 May 2012 15: 19
    +8
    Probably NTVeshnikov nevermind. They themselves are frostbitten and all the films and programs about scumbags.
  30. Dimka off
    Dimka off 4 May 2012 15: 19
    +14
    here it is - information war. And the people eat everything and believe in such "sources" of information!
  31. AK-74-1
    AK-74-1 4 May 2012 15: 20
    +8
    Thanks to the author. Be sure to try to contribute to the proposals set forth in the article.
  32. Ustas
    Ustas 4 May 2012 15: 23
    +23
    Looking at this chaos in the so-called "freedom of speech" on all-Russian channels, I am more and more convinced that strict censorship is needed on subjects that distort the historical truth.
    But this film will be watched by our children and grandchildren. What do they glean?
    And the words of Vladimir Vysotsky’s song intrusively appear in my memory:

    Among the faded candles and evening prayers,
    Among the military trophies and peaceful fires,
    Lived book children who did not know the battles,
    Disheartened by her petty catastrophes.

    Children are always annoyed by their age and life,
    And we fought to abrasions, to mortal insults,
    But the clothes were patched to our mother on time,
    We swallowed the books, getting drunk from the lines.

    Lipli hair to us on sweating foreheads,
    And sucked under the spoon sweetly from the phrases.
    And the smell of struggle circled our heads,
    From the pages of yellowed flying to us.

    And we who didn’t know wars tried to comprehend
    For a warlike cry they took the howl
    The secret of the word "order", the appointment of boundaries,
    The meaning of the attack and the clash of war chariots.

    And in the boiling cauldrons of previous wars and unrest
    So much food for our little brains
    We are on the role of traitors, cowards, Judas
    In their children's games, they assigned their enemies.

    And the villain was not allowed to cool,
    And they promised to love the most beautiful ladies,
    And having calmed friends and loving neighbors,
    We in the role of heroes introduced themselves.

    Only dreams cannot be run away for good
    A short century of fun, so much pain around.
    Try to squeeze the palms of the dead
    And take the weapons out of their worn hands.

    Test while holding a still warm sword
    And wearing armor, how much, how much ?!
    Experience who you are - a coward or chosen one of fate,
    And taste the real fight.

    And when a wounded friend collapses nearby
    And over the first loss you'll make out, grieving,
    And when you suddenly have no skin
    Because they killed him, not you.

    You will understand that you recognized, distinguished, found
    He took a grin - it’s a grin of death,
    Lies and evil, look how rude their faces are
    And always behind the crow and coffins.

    If you didn’t eat meat from a knife
    If the arms are folded, watched from above,
    But he didn’t enter the fight with the scoundrel, with the executioner,
    So in life you have nothing to do with anything.

    If the path is cut through with my father’s sword,
    You are wound with salty tears,
    If in a hot fight I experienced that how much,
    So you read the right books as a child.
    1. Focuser
      Focuser 4 May 2012 20: 28
      +7
      Fine! I just listened to this song for the first time. thank
    2. Voodoo
      Voodoo 5 May 2012 14: 50
      +2
      Thank you brother for the song! I know her. Just the topic, who would not say anything here. This could end the discussion ...
    3. DDL
      DDL 5 May 2012 14: 59
      +1
      Straight into the heart!
  33. Dr. No
    Dr. No 4 May 2012 15: 25
    +20
    To lead that real war, you need to watch Soviet films shot by front-line directors based on works by front-line writers. What is being removed now is just slag.


    Here's another one on this topic - you won’t say better:
    http://www.trud.ru/article/04-05-2012/275809_pravda__ona_vse_ta_zhe.html
  34. Baron Wrangell
    Baron Wrangell 4 May 2012 15: 26
    +14
    Down with shit movies and TV shows! Better to show "They fought for the Motherland!"
  35. Manager
    Manager 4 May 2012 15: 31
    +14
    Well, there are still our Actors starred not unknown! Shame on them!
    1. Novosibirsky
      Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 15: 35
      +12
      Really! Guskov simply disappeared from my list of respected people.
      1. Baron Wrangell
        Baron Wrangell 4 May 2012 15: 46
        +11
        And what Guskov, there are a bunch of actors and a film crew, everything is not ashamed, they took off such a thing for German money! The actor is like a prostitute, for money they are ready to sell everything honor and conscience!
        1. Aleksey67
          Aleksey67 4 May 2012 15: 49
          +10
          Quote: Baron Wrangel
          And what Guskov, there are a bunch of actors and a film crew, everything is not ashamed, they took off such a thing for German money


          Guskov is also a producer, which means he also invested money. I will not be surprised by the message that the Ministry of Culture of Russia "washed the money" here
          1. zevs379
            zevs379 4 May 2012 18: 11
            +5
            And after such tricks, someone will argue that we have a ministry of culture?
  36. Novosibirsky
    Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 15: 33
    +5
    By the way, I do not impose anything on anyone, but there is another form of protest against the NTV policy, just to remove the channel from the tuned ones. Which I did 2 years ago. I watch NTV-sport on livetv.ru, on the Internet. Fuck that channel!
  37. leon-iv
    leon-iv 4 May 2012 15: 35
    0
    How can I summarize
    Learn History to teach your children and grandchildren
    And do not wear a St. George ribbon (99,9% did not deserve it)
    PS Until I watch the movie I won’t say for (Pasternak did not read but condemn (c))
    1. TiGRoO
      TiGRoO 4 May 2012 16: 03
      +2
      trailer look request
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 4 May 2012 16: 11
        +2
        I will not judge by the trailer about the film many times burned
        1. TiGRoO
          TiGRoO 4 May 2012 16: 42
          +4
          The trailer shows how these "good" soldiers fight against our "bad" soldiers, together with the Germans, that's enough for me ...
    2. smile
      smile 4 May 2012 16: 44
      +8
      Leon Yves
      The fact. that this supposedly real episode began to circulate on the periphery of near-historical journals and monographs already 5 years ago. Even the respected Medinsky in his magnificent book "War" (where he exposed the black mythology of war in detail) admitted its reality, referring to that. what Mikhalkov told him about him (complaining that he should have made a film .....). After that, my respect for Medinsky dropped sharply ... But read the book, it is well written.
      In the journal Rodina there was a whole storm, the result of which was a detailed, documented exposure of this lie. So, watching is not very necessary .... and it will be disgusting.
      1. esaul
        esaul 4 May 2012 19: 20
        +6
        Quote: smile
        After that, respect for Medinsky fell sharply.

        Volodya, welcome. I ask you not to be disappointed so quickly, at the first emotional impulse. I had the opportunity to meet with Medinsky - a man very deserving of respect! He is a true patriot and strives to foster deep respect for Russian history. Sometimes one moment is important for him, one surname, one fact from our history, in order to find the true background of which he is ready to dig through a mountain of materials. If you didn't have to read his books in the "Myths about Russia" series, I recommend. You will not regret. Well, if some historical fact may be slightly modified or embellished, but carries a positive example, then this can be "not noticed" feel . The history of all mankind, to a greater extent, is more a product, not factual, but ideological.
        1. smile
          smile 4 May 2012 23: 20
          +4
          Good evening, Valery.
          You meet amazing people ... enviably (just kidding). Seriously, I have a very positive and respectful attitude to Medinsky. I read his series of books "Myths about Russia" and "War". The impression is excellent, I think these books should be introduced into school curricula, at least as recommended for extracurricular reading.
          I am usually not inclined to change my mind quickly, once I have one. But I am simply put out of action by the praises of Mikhalkov's films - from the series "tired of delirium under the sun." To be honest, I didn't pay attention to it for a long time. Frankly, I came to the conclusion that Vladimir is simply friendly with Mikhalkov and this affects his assessments ... This is understandable and there is no crime in this ...
          But when I got to the episode on Rugen Island and found out that this nonsense had leaked from Mikhalkov, I got pretty angry (all the more so since I had read a discussion about the same topic in Rodina magazine shortly before, during which there wasn’t any stone left)
          I don’t know about you, but when I watched the Fatigued (intentionally forced myself) I wanted to die. I don’t give a damn about Mikhalkov’s work and squabble in the cinema environment, all the more so since it’s pointless to deny Mikhalkov’s talent and commercial success ... but I can’t forgive him for those who are tired - the same cliches about fines, etc. that Medinsky himself successfully deals with.
          I have no doubt the need for the necessary mythology, but it is necessary to carefully approach the assessment of the effectiveness of the implemented. In this case, the effect is the opposite of the expected one.
          Honestly, Medinsky’s comments about the Fatigued just saddened me ... But I still won’t stop reading and advertising Medinsky. Sincerely.
          1. esaul
            esaul 5 May 2012 05: 43
            +3
            Quote: smile
            Honestly, Medinsky’s comments about the Burnt Men have saddened me ...

            Volodya, I had a similar reaction to this episode in the book. But, my "odes to glory" prompted me to watch "Burnt ... 2" again. I confess - it took about 40 minutes, I couldn’t survive further. A stamp on a stamp and a blank replay. And about his relationship with METROM - you are 100% right. Friendship ... Yes, Medinsky did not hide it, and does not hide it. But, in particular, with regard to his praises of the film - remember in the context of the narrative about what event they sounded! Film Festival! A film festival at which "fighters for the freedom of human rights and his self-identity" awarded the highest praise to a film about a young pi ... se, bypassing the film about how the Soviet people defended their Motherland! Europe does not care about the Russians killed in the Second World War, but it is extremely interesting and exciting to stare at the moments of the fate of the snotty homosexual! That, to a large extent, is what dictated the words of approval for Mikhalkov's film. I think so...
            Sincerely. Valery.
            1. smile
              smile 5 May 2012 11: 48
              +2
              Valery
              Yes, I agree with you ... and I finally swallowed his rationale for my support of Mikhalkov ... well, how you can get angry with Volodya for a long time - he's Medinsky !!!!
              :)))))))))))).
              Sincerely, Vladimir.
  38. bubla5
    bubla5 4 May 2012 15: 36
    +9
    How did you get artists who themselves did not serve or left the army, but play the main roles of patriots, morons ..... now with someone’s hands and grandmothers there is a juggling of facts about the war, the role of Russia or anybody else without Russia scum no words
  39. Ratibor12
    Ratibor12 4 May 2012 15: 37
    +9
    Here Shakhnazarov "pleased" with the creation of the film "White Tiger"! Looks like the laurels of "Moby Dick" do not let sleep peacefully. Do not watch such films in theaters, do not buy on discs. Otherwise, with your own money, the new shit tape will be removed!
    1. AK-74-1
      AK-74-1 4 May 2012 16: 07
      +6
      I watched "White Tiger". A film about a tank duel. The shooting is not independent, because the Soviet film was shot in the 1970s according to the same scenario. I don't remember exactly what the name "Attack" is in my opinion, but maybe I'm wrong.
      The remake is worse. A Soviet film without bloody scenes and sophisticated cruelty shows the courage and training of Soviet tankmen. The remake is shot more colorfully and abounds with very frank scenes. I would not allow the child to watch.
      1. urzul
        urzul 4 May 2012 16: 12
        +5
        We have many films with such bloody scenes that the horror series "SAW" will envy, I do not understand where the directors have a craving for rivers of blood
        1. Vadim555
          Vadim555 4 May 2012 16: 28
          +8
          Quote: urzul
          urzul Today, 16:12 new 1 We have many films with such bloody scenes that the horror series "SAW" will envy, I don’t understand where the directors have a thirst for rivers of blood


          Because the real did not see!
  40. nnnnnnnnn
    nnnnnnnnn 4 May 2012 15: 45
    +12
    posted on different forums, show this nonsense is not worth it, an insult to the memory of our grandfathers!
  41. Brother Sarych
    Brother Sarych 4 May 2012 15: 48
    +10
    I voted against the show, but this show would not have done much weather, because few people will notice one more ... one less one! The stream is whipping from the screen - announcements of programs for holidays and Victory Day are scary to watch - uniform pornography on a military theme!
    Not about old films, of course we are talking about new crafts and revelations - it’s good that at least few veterans are left and they don’t look so much in the box, otherwise they will endure such spit in the soul from the unfortunate heirs!
  42. Green 413-1685
    Green 413-1685 4 May 2012 15: 49
    +3
    This film must be shown. And then hold a discussion with a public "flogging" of both directors and artists who found it possible for themselves to spit on veterans and the country. And then it’s like a test balloon, it’s a ride, so you can continue to sculpt such an abomination. And so next time all these creatives will think a hundred times before doing something like that. And in general, all that guano that is happening today on our television and in the film industry is precisely because of our tolerance for this. Now, if society REALLY demands to change this policy of the "cesspool" of our mass media, then only then will they move.
    1. Dust
      Dust 4 May 2012 15: 58
      -2
      Everything has been rolled for a long time, so your impulse will be wasted ...
    2. AK-74-1
      AK-74-1 4 May 2012 16: 08
      +3
      Also a good offer.
    3. orient
      orient 4 May 2012 16: 50
      +5
      Green 413-1685,
      Perhaps you are right that it is worth showing from these considerations ... But who will discuss and who else will want to listen ... In general, whether he wants to. Now it is emphasized everywhere that the German nation "realized, repented and penetrated ...", so maybe such films are called upon to begin to repent of us? Only in what? Not only did the Americans already admit the alleged fact that the USSR was the culprit of the Second World War (for us, the Great Patriotic War), but also the Germans (!) Slowly began to move in this direction ... And this is a nation that has come to the Slavic land is by no means out of the intention of promoting "European values"! I am also against showing this film!
      And I completely agree with Brother Sarych: there is enough nonsense with announcements ... But lately, on sites where they suggest finding who your father or grandfather was in the war, they began to use photos of soldiers in the form of the Wehrmacht, SS, ROA and others in screensavers .. . How do you like this???!!! The most annoying thing is that you won’t write to them to express everything you think about this.
  43. Dust
    Dust 4 May 2012 15: 57
    +16
    Yes, the whole channel to close to hell - only benefit will be for the people!
    Not transfers, but solid garbage ...
    Any channel is keen on showing such films - and Yalta is on the First masterpiece? Russia is also not without sin ...
  44. dmb
    dmb 4 May 2012 16: 03
    +5
    Dear members of the creative team of the site. I am glad that we think alike, and in this case, I’m on the drum. But I still wanted to hear why my opinion and my proposals were not published, because I did not call for extremism and did not inflict personal insults on anyone. (see IEON-IV comment)
    1. dmb
      dmb 4 May 2012 18: 24
      +7
      Dear, Vadim Smirnov. The reasons for not publishing my opinion are satisfied. However, my suggestions are somewhat different from those presented in the article, and therefore let me repeat them in the commentary. I’m more than sure (based on all the previous NTV policies that thousands of our appeals will not cancel the screening of the film (the money has been paid and it’s sacred for NTV). I therefore suggested that all concerned should demand from the President of the Russian Federation (the surname is not important) and ask the Patriarch and the leaders of other faiths, to give a public assessment of the plot of the film, I believe that this assessment will convince us in many respects that everything said by these, many respected people before, the truth and their promises can really be trusted. corrected.
  45. TiGRoO
    TiGRoO 4 May 2012 16: 06
    +10
    Yes, except Culture (Russia_K) and probably stars, the rest of the channels can be immediately in the trash ...
    1. Novosibirsky
      Novosibirsky 4 May 2012 18: 51
      +3
      Well, really !! "Russia_2" (sport) leave generously !!! Hockey champion, no matter how, have mercy! bully
      1. TiGRoO
        TiGRoO 4 May 2012 18: 59
        +2
        I did not consider sports channels wink
  46. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 4 May 2012 16: 26
    +11
    The article is a definite plus! Maybe this initiative will not lead to anything - but it is still necessary to try to make this "film".
  47. Geton
    Geton 4 May 2012 16: 26
    +5
    I wonder who owns the ntvshny govnokanal? If Gazprom is in fact a state corporation, then such films are state policy towards WWII.
  48. Drednout
    Drednout 4 May 2012 16: 28
    +9
    And these people were born in the same country as me? !!! (I'm talking about racial actors and autorishka). A shame! Remained - it would be better with their prostitutes and pi-dar -....- mi. (I apologize to the most worthy forum public for expressions).
  49. Barba ross
    Barba ross 4 May 2012 16: 30
    +4
    Slop for Victory is richly poured. Like the last time. For one good movie a few crappy ones. They want to crush the amount. Well, yes there is an opinion that the darkness thickens before dawn.
  50. TekhnarMAF
    TekhnarMAF 4 May 2012 16: 33
    +6
    I just watched a film based on the novel by Vasil Bykovayu The film is called "Long miles of war", three episodes in one gulp! These are the films that should be shown more often and not only on the eve of the holiday. Guskov dropped out of my sphere of interest after the film "... taiga romance". With my hands I support the creative team of the site. Well, Medvedev fell in my eyes below the city sewer! That's it, otherwise I will fall for obscene language. fool