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"Let's finally cancel": Cavusoglu promised a visa-free regime with the Russian Federation

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The head of the Turkish Foreign Ministry Mevlüt авavuşo наlu in Russian on television has invited the Russians to visit Turkey, where very beautiful and very tasty food, reports RIA News.


"Let's finally cancel": Cavusoglu promised a visa-free regime with the Russian Federation


We want to see even more tourists from Russia. Turkey is a very beautiful country, and Antalya is a beautiful city. Turkish cuisine is very tasty,
the minister said on CNN Turk.

According to him, in 2017, Turkey was visited by 4,72 million Russian tourists, which is 5,5 times the year's 2016. Among the foreigners who were vacationing in the country, Russians took the first place. This year, an increase in tourists from the Russian Federation to 6 of millions is expected.

I think that visas with Russia, even if partially, will be canceled. Perhaps by the end of this year, the presidents of the two countries will say during a telephone conversation or at the first personal meeting: “Finally, let's cancel the visas”,
said (already in Turkish) Cavusoglu.

The publication reminds that Moscow introduced a visa regime for Turkish citizens against the background of the cooling of relations between the two countries in November 2015, when the Turkish Air Force shot down the Russian bomber Su-24 over Syria.
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RIA Novosti / Irina Popova
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 6 May 2018 13: 57
    +8
    Naturally ... And why now? Ah! Money!
    1. Logall
      Logall 6 May 2018 14: 04
      +47
      4,72 million Russian tourists visited Turkey, which is 5,5 times higher than in 2016.
      Here you have the resorts of the Krasnodar Territory, the Republic of Crimea ... Everything is hidden in the price of the question: I just can’t understand why rest at home is more expensive than that of a basurman? And including the flight ...
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 6 May 2018 14: 07
        +14
        Quote: Logall
        Here you have the resorts of the Krasnodar Territory!

        Not not no, in the velvet season over the bridge to the Crimea. yes
        "I do not need the Turkish coast ..." drinks
        1. Logall
          Logall 6 May 2018 14: 09
          +6
          Brother, I don’t need this either, but to other compatriots it’s very - yes! Or then who goes to them?
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 6 May 2018 14: 14
            +11
            Quote: Logall
            Brother, I don’t need this either, but to other compatriots it’s very - yes! Or then who goes to them?

            Yes, let them go where they want, keep them on the rope? laughing They feed the true Basurman, and then whine as hard as life. drinks
            1. Letun
              Letun 6 May 2018 14: 39
              +21
              Quote: vovanpain
              Yes, let them go where they want, keep them on the rope? They feed the true Basurman, and then whine as hard as life.

              Well, let our smart heads make the rest in Russia cheaper than in Turkey, then the people of Basurman will not be fed. And then we are called upon by ordinary people to be patriots, but among themselves, the closer to the Kremlin, the less patriotism. Real estate in the UK, accounts in Switzerland, children at their universities ...
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 6 May 2018 15: 43
                +1
                Not in this case. That's when the Turkish stream 2 is completed, then it will be gingerbread - the abolition of visas. hi
          2. Your honor
            Your honor 6 May 2018 14: 16
            +9
            I don’t go to the Turks unless they pay extra laughing
          3. Tiksi-3
            Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 14: 32
            +7
            Quote: Logall
            Or then who goes to them?

            я
            1. Logall
              Logall 6 May 2018 14: 39
              +3
              Quote: Tiksi-3
              Quote: Logall
              Or then who goes to them?

              я

              Quote: Observer2014
              Who has a rest in Turkey, that traitor of the Homeland am
              request
              1. Tiksi-3
                Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 14: 42
                +5
                belay fool fool - decrypt?
                1. Logall
                  Logall 6 May 2018 15: 48
                  +4
                  Quote: Tiksi-3
                  belay fool fool - decrypt?

                  What for? And so everything is clear - you introduced yourself!
                  There is no other explanation, because in my comment there is no my opinion, only a third-party ...
                  1. Tiksi-3
                    Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 15: 57
                    +1
                    Quote: Logall
                    There is no other explanation, because in my comment there is no my opinion, only a third-party one.

                    but you addressed me another's koment!
        2. Roman Skomorokhov
          Roman Skomorokhov 6 May 2018 16: 41
          +3
          Quote: vovanpain
          in the velvet season over the bridge to the Crimea


          But not this year for sure.
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 6 May 2018 16: 56
            +4
            Quote: Banshee
            But not this year for sure.

            Novel hi Since it seems like car traffic on the bridge opens in May, we want to drive a car with our family in mid-September, we plan to open the railway next year. hi
        3. Vard
          Vard 6 May 2018 19: 08
          +1
          You just never lived under communism ...
      2. 210ox
        210ox 6 May 2018 14: 13
        +7
        Alexander hi Let’s compare the price of a car made on a stream, and a car that is tedious and difficult to bring to mind and cannot be put on a conveyor. Here in Turkey there is this tourist conveyor ... Hence the prices.
        Quote: Logall
        4,72 million Russian tourists visited Turkey, which is 5,5 times higher than in 2016.
        Here you have the resorts of the Krasnodar Territory, the Republic of Crimea ... Everything is hidden in the price of the question: I just can’t understand why rest at home is more expensive than that of a basurman? And including the flight ...
        1. Logall
          Logall 6 May 2018 14: 21
          +10
          Dmitry, I can’t agree! It’s all about the laws: according to the law, each participant in the producer-consumer chain is obliged to invest at least 30% of the cost ... And imagine how many of these participants are in the tourism industry ... Our laws make us earn not at the expense of more commodity circulation, which can be increased by reducing prices, and due to the increase in these fucking prices!
          1. 210ox
            210ox 6 May 2018 14: 27
            +7
            Yes, there’s a whole bunch of problems. Both laws and greed. Do you think that if guest houses are empty in the same Vityazevo, will they drop prices? No way. Yes, they won’t be empty either. At the end of May, my people gathered there until the sea is clear ..There's already forgotten.
            Quote: Logall
            Dmitry, I can’t agree! It’s all about the laws: according to the law, each participant in the producer-consumer chain is obliged to invest at least 30% of the cost ... And imagine how many of these participants are in the tourism industry ... Our laws make us earn not at the expense of more commodity circulation, which can be increased by reducing prices, and due to the increase in these fucking prices!
            1. Logall
              Logall 6 May 2018 14: 33
              +4
              This year I decided to change traditions: I’ll go to the archipka ... An old friend moved there, invited.
              But it’s cheaper for me to rest in the Kuban, I’m still local ... I rest with friends, I pay only for food. But I’m also serving myself! But this is more of a plus than a minus.
            2. SSR
              SSR 6 May 2018 16: 17
              +3
              Quote: 210ox
              Here mine at the end of May gathered there while the sea was clear ..

              I myself went to Sochi in the spring, I really liked it, my friends went in the summer, they said they would not go anymore.
              The sewage treatment is not corrected, it is dirty and the prices in the cafe are biting.
              Citizens choose; affordable, clean and tasty.
          2. Hire
            Hire 6 May 2018 15: 15
            +11
            Quote: Logall
            Dmitry, I can’t agree!

            hi As far as I know, everyone who has no warm sea at their side goes to Turkey to rest. And the Germans, and the British, and the Dutch, and even the Bulgarians with the French. Could it be all the same in organizing a tour business?
        2. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 14: 34
          +4
          Quote: 210ox
          .From here and the prices.

          no, you won’t believe it, but the tax there is cheap and the electricity is cheaper than mine
          1. Sagot
            Sagot 6 May 2018 15: 37
            +4
            Our city is generally strange, sn one of the lowest, taxes and tariffs are highest. Paradox Mlyn.
      3. Rostovchanin
        Rostovchanin 6 May 2018 14: 37
        +11
        Guys, it all depends on the "length" of the holiday season. For 4 months, our resort needs to recapture the remaining 8 months of "hungry sitting" from the Turks, on the contrary ... 8: 4 ... That's the whole issue price. It will not be cheaper with us, otherwise our holidaymakers will fly into the pipe.
        1. Avis-bis
          Avis-bis 6 May 2018 15: 23
          +5
          Quote: Rostovchanin
          Guys, it all depends on the "length" of the holiday season. Our resort in 4 months needs to recapture the remaining 8 months of "hungry sitting" from the Turks, on the contrary ...

          In the Kaliningrad region, the summer season is no longer and there is no winter ski (there is no “hungry eight months” in Sochi now). There the prices are quite reasonable.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 6 May 2018 15: 32
            +5
            Quote: Avis-bis
            no "in Sochi" now "hungry eight months"

            Ahem ... did I oversleep? Is everything now on the Black Sea coast everywhere, like in Sochi?
            1. Avis-bis
              Avis-bis 6 May 2018 15: 41
              +5
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Quote: Avis-bis
              no "in Sochi" now "hungry eight months"

              Ahem ... did I oversleep? Is everything now on the Black Sea coast everywhere, like in Sochi?

              And what - no? For two decades I have not been on the "Black Sea coast of Russia" and for me it is briefly and generally called "Sochi", because all the friends who go there did not see a noticeable difference between different points of this coast. I like Greece more. And the summer Baltic, in which, I repeat, the climate situation is not better than the Black Sea (for any point on the coast), but cheaper, more sincere and more comfortable. For which, in fact, like it.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 6 May 2018 15: 45
                +3
                Quote: Avis-bis
                And what - no?

                Not. In Sochi, by the way, the Olympics was. Hence the whole, ahem, infrastructure.
                Nowhere else on the Black Sea coast is there such a lafa. Therefore your
                Quote: Avis-bis
                no "in Sochi" now "hungry eight months"

                ... ahem, not true.
                Quote: Avis-bis
                and for me it’s briefly and generically called “Sochi”

                Md recourse
                1. Avis-bis
                  Avis-bis 6 May 2018 16: 14
                  +3
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Quote: Avis-bis
                  And what - no?

                  Not. In Sochi, by the way, the Olympics was. Hence the whole, ahem, infrastructure.
                  Nowhere else on the Black Sea coast is there such a lafa. Therefore your
                  Quote: Avis-bis
                  no "in Sochi" now "hungry eight months"

                  ... ahem, not true.
                  Quote: Avis-bis
                  and for me it’s briefly and generically called “Sochi”

                  Md recourse

                  Well, it doesn't, it doesn't. Nothing has changed from the "Olympic Lafa" either, right? So that's not the point. Secondly, in Kaliningrad, I repeat, the summer season is even worse if you aren’t in the know, but there is no such play on prices, so there’s nothing to do with Olympolaf.
                  "The inhabitants of the Black Sea coast of the Russian Federation" do not want to change - let them choke on their redneckness. It’s only a pity that they are not allowed to travel abroad; there are many smart people among them.
        2. Weyland
          Weyland 6 May 2018 21: 13
          +2
          Quote: Rostovchanin
          Our resort in 4 months needs to recapture the remaining 8 months of "hungry sitting"

          А work they have not tried these 8 months?
      4. farcop
        farcop 6 May 2018 14: 50
        0
        Quote: Logall
        I just can’t understand why rest at home is more expensive than that of a basurman? And including the flight ...
        Because in Turkey, the grub is subsidized so that the topic of bread is closed, but Erdogan regularly sprinkles spectacles with them. Well, of course, taxes.
      5. Berkut154
        Berkut154 6 May 2018 14: 55
        +1
        Forgot about resort fee to mention drinks
      6. staviator
        staviator 6 May 2018 15: 26
        +3
        Quote: Logall
        Everything hides in the price of the question: I just can’t understand why rest at home is more expensive than that of a basurman? And including the flight ...

        Greed. Moreover, the climate in Turkey is the same almost all year round, and our resorts are not needed either in winter or in autumn, we need to have time to grab and wind up prices for the whole year.
      7. Heterocapsa
        Heterocapsa 6 May 2018 15: 48
        +4
        we residents of the Krasnodar Territory are a little easier because we live by the sea. Sometimes even during the season you never swim in this sea, because for many years you no longer perceive it in any way.
      8. helmi8
        helmi8 7 May 2018 22: 20
        +1
        Quote: Logall
        I just can’t understand why rest at home is more expensive than that of a basurman? And including the flight ..

        Excessive greed of the owners of hotels, resorts, etc. Accordingly, local residents raise rental prices. And grocery products are more expensive than in central Russia. Simple human thirst for profit. laughing All at once, and a lot.
    2. Observer2014
      Observer2014 6 May 2018 14: 15
      +3
      210ox Dmitry soldier hi .
      And why now? Ah! Money!
      Who has a rest in Turkey, that traitor of the Homeland am
      1. 210ox
        210ox 6 May 2018 14: 19
        +5
        Eh Serge ... hi Do you propose to take so much more for crossing the border upon arrival?
        Quote: Observer2014
        210ox Dmitry soldier hi .
        And why now? Ah! Money!
        Who has a rest in Turkey, that traitor of the Homeland am
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 6 May 2018 14: 22
          +1
          210ox Dmitriy
          Do you propose to take so much more for crossing the border upon arrival?
          Yes! Least! And they all go by the forest. And the Belarusian partisans will go to resorts of the Krasnodar Territory altogether before they go. I personally know a whole partisan detachment in Sochi here. bullyAnd with their main laughing
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 6 May 2018 14: 49
            +1
            Sergey, then I look, Belarusians are almost invisible on the site! wink And what does the dodomy mean? The sea is not enough? belay
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 6 May 2018 14: 54
              +1
              sabakina Vyacheslav
              And what does the dodomy mean? The sea is not enough?
              laughing wassat I will not say anything. : drinks hi :
          2. 210ox
            210ox 6 May 2018 15: 00
            +2
            What did they interfere with? Belarusian partisans? Well, yes .. When Alexander Grigoryevich and his retinue arrive, traffic jams across Sochi half a day .. However, there are enough of ours there.
            Quote: Observer2014
            210ox Dmitriy
            Do you propose to take so much more for crossing the border upon arrival?
            Yes! Least! And they all go by the forest. And the Belarusian partisans will go to resorts of the Krasnodar Territory altogether before they go. I personally know a whole partisan detachment in Sochi here. bullyAnd with their main laughing
      2. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 14: 40
        +8
        Quote: Observer2014
        Who has a rest in Turkey, that traitor of the Homeland

        belay fool 6 million Russians are traitors? fool there it’s stupidly cheaper, warmer, tastier and the service is at a high level. So I’m skiing as a family, it’s always Italy, France, Andorra, and here I flew (2015) to Sochi (Gorki-Gorod) and lost my flight (15000 per person) from the cost of a ski pass 2000 per day per person — no family or discount for a week and the food is wretched and there are only 5 slopes ((((.... here in March I was in Andorra with my family and received price-quality - a wild pleasure
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 6 May 2018 15: 25
          +1
          Tiksi-3 (Dmitriy)
          Andorra flew here (2015) in Sochi (gorki-gorod) and lost in flight (15000 per person) of the cost of a ski pass 2000 per day per person, there are no family or ski for a week and the food is poor and there are only 5 slopes (((.. ..that in March I was in Andorra with my family and got price-quality
          It’s better to fish on the other side. Where are you from? Andora? We are all attentive.
          1. Tiksi-3
            Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 15: 29
            0
            Quote: Observer2014
            Where are you from?

            from the Russian Federation (Chita-Tiksi-Voronezh-N Novgorod)
            Quote: Observer2014
            We are all attentive.

            what to listen to? do you ski (snowboard)?
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 6 May 2018 15: 40
              0
              Tiksi-3 (Dmitry) from the Russian Federation (Chita-Tiksi-Voronezh-N Novgorod) Everything is clear. Well, maybe we can sort your pins? Where are you from.?
              do you ski (snowboard)?
              10 years of work in those places: And the kilometers of Krasnaya Polyana tracks since their development. repeat Come on, what am I talking about. Are you from where?
              1. Tiksi-3
                Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 15: 43
                0
                Quote: Observer2014
                Where are you from.?

                already answered NN and what will this tell you?
                do you yourself ski?
                1. Observer2014
                  Observer2014 6 May 2018 15: 56
                  +1
                  Tiksi-3 (Dmitry) answered NN already and what will this tell you?
                  do you yourself ski?
                  Now, no. But 10 years of experience working directly with the ski resort I think will calm you down.
                  already answered NN and what will this tell you?
                  How much do you think the trip from Sochi to Nizhny Novgorod will cost me? Too mere trifles? Or do you think this is what Sochi residents set fares for? Or do you have a cheap mother’s service there? To come to the resort and go to the first store at a hotel or a hotel does not mean buying for a normal price. It is a state policy. They mold the price of basic services and the price. And private traders look at what’s happening in response. Welcome to real Russia. Who he wanted to try to change what was happening during the election. But! We have what we have hi
                  1. Tiksi-3
                    Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 16: 05
                    +2
                    Quote: Observer2014
                    Now, no. But 10 years of experience working directly with a ski resort

                    then don’t ride, then it’s pointless to explain the difference to you
                    Quote: Observer2014
                    I think you will reassure.

                    I'm calm, it's you trying to make your nerves
                    Quote: Observer2014
                    How much do you think the trip from Sochi to Nizhny Novgorod will cost me?

                    what are you talking about? I write that it is cheaper and more comfortable for me to rest with the bourgeoisie, and why did you stick your monologue to me?
                    1. Observer2014
                      Observer2014 6 May 2018 16: 28
                      0
                      Tiksi-3 Dmitriy
                      what are you talking about? I write that it is cheaper and more comfortable for me to rest with the bourgeoisie, and why did you stick your monologue to me?
                      About what you are talking about. It's also cheaper for me in Sochi to go to the bourgeoisie than in Russia. Including Sochi itself.
                      1. Tiksi-3
                        Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 16: 32
                        0
                        Quote: Observer2014
                        About what you are talking about

                        you started to pester me - from where I ....
                        Quote: Observer2014
                        It's cheaper for me in Sochi too

                        yes to health, just put labels about traitors shove yourself under your pillow and rest
        2. PalBor
          PalBor 6 May 2018 18: 13
          +1
          Information for consideration: Two bosses, Jaish al-Islam, for example, Muhammad Alush, who participated in the opposition from Astana, stole part of the common fund (47 million dollars) and opened a restaurant chain in Turkey. They killed, robbed, and generally had fun. Now you can work and feed Russian tourists.
          But cheap and tasty sad
      3. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 6 May 2018 14: 51
        +9
        Quote: Observer2014
        Who has a rest in Turkey, that traitor of the Homeland

        And who is the one who drives cars of Western European production and the United States with Japan? repeat Let's look for a name for those who build their super-yachts at foreign shipyards ... belay Find synonyms for subtropical and tropical private apartment lovers ... request I don’t even know who are those who keep money not in Sberbank and not in rubles? what What can we say about schoolchildren who strive to study not in Nizhny Upyryovka, but next to the Queen of Aglitz ... repeat If you travel abroad, it’s treason, then to marry (marry) a citizen of a foreign country is treason. Though... wink There are such aliens that a couple of times to change with them would not be against myself ... fellow
        Greed and money-grubbing are more destructive than the AK-47 ... soldier
      4. Weyland
        Weyland 6 May 2018 21: 14
        +4
        Quote: Observer2014
        Who has a rest in Turkey, that traitor of the Homeland

        And the deputies adopting the law on "vacation tax" - who? The fish is looking where deeper ...
  2. Abram
    Abram 6 May 2018 14: 00
    +1
    Better not. otherwise there will be no one to go to Crimea and Abkhazia
    1. 210ox
      210ox 6 May 2018 14: 02
      +3
      And there it is. And I invite you .. To Crimea. In Abkhazia, the service is dumb. More precisely, everything related to the vacation.
      Quote: Abram
      Better not. otherwise there will be no one to go to Crimea and Abkhazia
      1. Abram
        Abram 6 May 2018 14: 05
        +6
        Thanks of course. But Soviet service and prices are not very attractive
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 6 May 2018 14: 09
      +7
      Quote: Abram
      Better not. otherwise there will be no one to go to Crimea and Abkhazia

      Why's that? This is a healthy competition that will stimulate our resorts in order to attract tourists not only by cheapness, but also by comfort. By and large, is Crimea worse than Turkish beaches or Bulgarian? Yes, nothing at all ... just the service, the cluttered beaches, the lack of modern recreation puts it lower than overseas resorts.
      1. Abram
        Abram 6 May 2018 14: 20
        +11
        For healthy competition, the conditions must be the same. When the Russian Federation creates conditions for the tourism business in Turkey, then we can talk about fair competition - then we may see services, beaches, and prices at the Turkish level. In the meantime, people vote in dollar in favor of Turkey
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 6 May 2018 14: 26
          +2
          Quote: Abram
          For healthy competition, the conditions must be the same.

          Didn't I say that?
          Quote: NEXUS
          This is a healthy competition that will stimulate our resorts in order to attract tourists not only by cheapness, but also by comfort.

          Quote: Abram
          In the meantime, people vote in dollar in favor of Turkey

          Yes, I would not say ... this is a matter of choosing a person. If I want, let's say see the Egyptian pyramids, why should I go to Crimea?
        2. Nimitz
          Nimitz 6 May 2018 15: 13
          +9
          Quote: Abram
          For healthy competition, the conditions must be the same. When the Russian Federation creates conditions for the tourism business in Turkey, then we can talk about fair competition - then we may see services, beaches, and prices at the Turkish level. In the meantime, people vote in dollar in favor of Turkey

          A trip to the Crimea (Yevpatoriya) - 2200 km from my house, in my car, it costs me about 12 thousand rubles. This is not a lot, given the fact that I take two more children besides myself and, of course, cheaper than a flight to foreign resorts. But there is a nuance, the Rostov traffic police are convinced that they are not employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the Krasnodar traffic police are convinced that the Krasnodar Territory is not part of the Russian Federation. And each of these characters is convinced that I personally owe him about 40 thousand rubles, for the fact of passing him. Moreover, the aggravation of the situation with a link to a record from the registrar, with a link to a record of our "sweet" conversation ends badly. One time, the Krasnodar traffic policeman, in response to a refusal, paying bribes, simply called for help from an army unit, explaining that some drug addict was refusing to pay him. It is not on TV to watch how special forces unfold, it was 70 meters from me that a unit with a machine gun, which I personally know as a PC, deployed. Here, after all, there are a lot of weapons specialists, well, gentlemen, officers, what do you think would be with me, with my children, if 1 number of this calculation opened fire on a passenger car. And it’s okay, that the army men stupidly escorted me to an examination (which, of course, didn’t reveal anything) and even had a small talk with me and, as a sign of a certain location, they themselves took my documents from the traffic cop and returned them to me.
          In short, the problem is not on the Crimean coast - the country needs to be put in order.
      2. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 15: 09
        +1
        Quote: NEXUS
        By and large, is Crimea worse than Turkish beaches or Bulgarian?

        to everyone, from the word absolutely !! I in October (10-20th) in Turkey I scorch and swim in the sea without getting out, and by the way the beaches are clean .... this is just for a start said, object!
    3. 72jora72
      72jora72 6 May 2018 14: 19
      +2
      Better not. otherwise there will be no one to go to Crimea and Abkhazia
      Stop it, and they go to Crimea to Sochi and Abkhazia. For example, I went to the Crimea for the last two holidays (and believe me, good service can also be found there), this year I'm going to Adler.
      PS For the past five years I have not traveled abroad from the principle.
      1. protoss
        protoss 6 May 2018 15: 05
        +3
        and what is the principle?
        1. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 15: 26
          0
          Quote: protoss
          and what is the principle?

          everything foreign is hostile, but this does not apply to cars, phones, computers and the Internet ........
          1. 72jora72
            72jora72 6 May 2018 16: 18
            0
            Quote: protoss
            and what is the principle?

            everything foreign is hostile, but this does not apply to cars, phones, computers and the Internet ........
            No need to exaggerate. You like Turkey, for God's sake, at least relax every month. I like to relax in Russia, maybe I should ask your permission?
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 6 May 2018 16: 24
              +3
              Sorry to interrupt, but I suddenly became interested.
              Quote: 72jora72
              Reply Citirova
              Have you ever been over a hill? If so, where? What, in your opinion, is the advantage of rest in Russia over foreign resorts?
            2. Tiksi-3
              Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 16: 28
              +1
              Quote: 72jora72
              No need to exaggerate. You like Turkey, for God's sake, at least relax every month. I like to relax in Russia, maybe I should ask your permission?

              What is your principle (do not ride abroad)?
          2. protoss
            protoss 6 May 2018 17: 28
            +3
            but movies, music, books, clothes, food?
            when principles work selectively, they are no longer principles.
            1. Tiksi-3
              Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 17: 33
              +2
              Quote: protoss
              but movies, music, books, clothes, food?

              + pharmaceuticals, medicine, building materials and everything is everything, only
              Quote: 72jora72
              and what is the principle?
              If you do not understand, then I will not explain.

              the writer was confused and annoyed, because he wrote for a plus sign, and he was immediately shown what the principle is
        2. 72jora72
          72jora72 6 May 2018 16: 15
          0
          and what is the principle?
          If you do not understand, then I will not explain.
    4. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 14: 44
      +2
      Quote: Abram
      otherwise there will be no one to go to Crimea and Abkhazia

      First, make a decent vacation, then wait for tourists, I will go to the Crimea in the summer, but by car and in tents on the beach ....
  3. zyzx
    zyzx 6 May 2018 14: 01
    +1
    I think it is strange having the Black Sea with us to go to the same sea to the Basurmans.
    1. Avis-bis
      Avis-bis 6 May 2018 14: 04
      +5
      Quote: zyzx
      having the Black Sea we have to go to the same sea

      Are you serious??? belay
      1. zyzx
        zyzx 6 May 2018 14: 06
        +1
        Well, what is better for them there? In pieces.
        1. Avis-bis
          Avis-bis 6 May 2018 15: 26
          +1
          Quote: zyzx
          Well, what is better for them there? In pieces.

          I'm talking about something else. Open the atlas.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 6 May 2018 14: 08
        +5
        But seriously ... In addition to Black, there is Azov and Baikal and a lot of places. We don’t need a Turkish coast.
        Quote: Avis-bis
        Quote: zyzx
        having the Black Sea we have to go to the same sea

        Are you serious??? belay
        1. Avis-bis
          Avis-bis 6 May 2018 15: 25
          +2
          Quote: 210ox
          But seriously ... In addition to Black, there is Azov and Baikal and a lot of places. We don’t need a Turkish coast.

          On which "Turkish shores" are Turkish resorts located? Will you name a lot of Black Sea?
    2. 210ox
      210ox 6 May 2018 14: 06
      +7
      I completely agree with you. However, the prices and quality of service ... This year, the resort fee has already jumped .. I live in Kuban myself and see this ..
      Quote: zyzx
      I think it is strange having the Black Sea with us to go to the same sea to the Basurmans.
    3. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 6 May 2018 14: 07
      +6
      Quote: zyzx
      ... to the same sea ...

      In Red fish more, cool, you can chase him.
      And on Black I only saw bulls. And jellyfish. They are boring.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 6 May 2018 14: 31
        +4
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        In Krasniy Rybnik more fun, you can drive him

        Yes, the sea is super, but it is in Egypt. wink But the service in Egypt is shitty, in Turkey the service is much cooler. And the cost of a trip to a 4 * hotel is approximately comparable to the cost of a vacation in Crimea or in Sochi, only our service is much worse. We need political decisions to improve our service.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 6 May 2018 14: 42
          +2
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          service in ... Turkey service is much cooler

          I and that, and that "service" - I will shed. But the fish and corals - very much not.
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Need service improvement policy decisions with us.

          GYYY good laughing good
          This is Putin's fault (s).
          Well, you couldn’t but screech on landing ... OSA fellow
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 6 May 2018 14: 58
            +1
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            I and that, and that "service" - I will bar.
            To live in a barn or in a normal room - does it matter? belay
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            This is Putin's fault (s).

            He is not alone. And goat, at least don't goat
            when landing, when taking off, but the facts are stubborn things - it’s more expensive to relax with us. With the worst service, moreover. Options for solving the problem without political solutions tell me? wink
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 6 May 2018 15: 09
              +4
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              To live in a barn or in a normal room - does it matter?

              If in the "shed" there is air conditioning and shower - absolutely no difference.
              In Egypt it is. By default.
              I once loved Menaville in Safaga - quietly, you don’t have any animators and a coral reef (real) “within walking distance” - a bollard cost 10 bucks from the nose, in my opinion. Left in the morning, arrived in the evening. Lyapota request
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              we have a vacation more expensive

              They have a longer season. And entrepreneurs are less "gluttonous." And many more, ahem, reasons.
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Options for solving the problem without political solutions tell me?

              It will pass by itself. But cheaper than in Egypt - it is unlikely that there will ever be a thread, see above.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 6 May 2018 16: 48
                +1
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                coral reef (real) "within walking distance"

                In Sharm, a coral reef in any hotel on the first coastline. Actually 50 meters, no more.
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                And entrepreneurs are less "gluttonous"

                Key moment.
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                It will pass by itself.

                By itself, not a single sore passes.
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                But cheaper than in Egypt - it is unlikely that there will ever be a thread, see above.

                Debatable. State regulation is needed. In the same “Magnit” in Sochi, everything is much more expensive, in Yalta stores food prices are 2 times at least more expensive.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 6 May 2018 17: 53
                  +1
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  In Sharm, a coral reef in any hotel on the first coastline

                  He is ... man-made. They dragged pieces of coral and called it a "reef." This is ... "consumer cooperation" (c).
                  The one I'm talking about is real. This is an island the size of a couple of football fields, a boat goes there (about half an hour to it).
                  There is a place where you can safely enter the water (I only "found" one, showed, more precisely), in other places - a sandbank with hedgehogs and other joy, 40-50 meters. You won’t go too much.
                  Cool place, to get there at least once more what
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  By itself, not a single sore passes.

                  Urunda. I speak as a specialist in "sores." Fractures, and they grow together ... the truth is usually crooked request
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Controversial

                  Yes, even argue. The Black Sea coast - not once Egypt. You can also argue this, to the heap yes
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 6 May 2018 19: 30
                    0
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    He is ... man-made. They dragged pieces of coral and called it a "reef."

                    No, he's real. Google the story. And you can only enter the water through the ramp.
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    The Black Sea coast - not once Egypt.

                    Not about that. it's about service and infrastructure.
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 6 May 2018 19: 38
                      +1
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      it's about service and infrastructure ...

                      ... and for reasonable money, right?
                      IMHO this is a profitable business, though. With the passage of time, so to speak.
                      There’s somehow a place for state regulation ... I don’t see request
    4. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 6 May 2018 14: 16
      +5
      Firstly, it is the Mediterranean Sea. Secondly, the holiday season in Antalya is from May to October. In Crimea - a month shorter. Thirdly, the people of Crimea and the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus need to rebuild their mentality. And come up with a "lure" ... Like "oll inkluziv", etc.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 6 May 2018 14: 22
        +3
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Type "oll inkluziv", etc.

        Wondrous Transcription good laughing good
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        come up with a "lure" ...

        Oil inclusive e.g. wink
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 6 May 2018 14: 57
          +3
          Roma hi , well, a friend in Aglitsky was mistaken .... To be honest, the Turks and Egypt take comfort and price, whatever one may say. And yes, the mentality in the Crimea .... Sorry, so many years in Ukraine ... For a long time it is necessary to shake out. In Krasnodar .... I myself was not, but they told me, the presses were still those ...
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 6 May 2018 15: 14
            +1
            Greetings hi
            Quote: sabakina
            Well, a friend was mistaken in aglitsky

            Yes, I have no complaints ... but it really worked out well, in Turkish like that laughing
          2. Avis-bis
            Avis-bis 6 May 2018 15: 29
            +2
            Quote: sabakina
            mentality in Crimea .... Sorry, so many years in Ukraine ... For a long time it is necessary to shake out.

            Was our Adler also Ukrainian?
          3. 72jora72
            72jora72 6 May 2018 16: 24
            +2
            Roma, hi, well, a friend in Aglitsky was mistaken ...
            Golovan Jack understands everything, both in languages ​​and in diving, and in Galich and in cheese ............
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 6 May 2018 16: 34
              +2
              Quote: 72jora72
              Golovan Jack understands everything, both in languages ​​and in diving, and in Galich and in cheese ...

              GYYY laughing laughing laughing
              Golovan knows angelic quite well, by virtue of production, ahem, need. We speak and write request
              Golovan loves to drive ripples in corals ... but there is no way to make time request
              Golovan graduated from seven years of musician, and studied guitar accompaniment ... almost professionally.
              Golovan really loves cheese ... you need to get to the boutiques, by the way.
              Golovan generally dofiga what he knows and knows how.
              But Golovan’s troll to no purpose, ends badly, as a rule. For trolling yes
    5. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 6 May 2018 14: 45
      +3
      Quote: zyzx
      I find it strange having the Black Sea

      we have a cool Laptev Sea .... it's like Red and Black ... and the Mediterranean is warmer and cleaner than Black
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 6 May 2018 14: 58
        +1
        Quote: Tiksi-3
        Mediterranean is warmer and cleaner than Black

        And for some reason it is more salty. request
        1. Avis-bis
          Avis-bis 6 May 2018 15: 30
          +1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: Tiksi-3
          Mediterranean is warmer and cleaner than Black

          And for some reason it is more salty. request

          Rivers, more northern location ...
          1. Antares
            Antares 6 May 2018 20: 42
            +2
            Quote: Avis-bis
            Rivers, more northern location ...

            Inland with narrow straits - the river flow exceeds the message through the Bosphorus. Salinity is 2 times lower than oceanic.
            And the formation of the Black Sea also affects.
            1. Avis-bis
              Avis-bis 6 May 2018 21: 04
              +1
              Quote: Antares

              Inland with narrow straits - the river flow exceeds the message through the Bosphorus. Salinity is 2 times lower than oceanic.

              What am I talking about? Yes, and colder there than in the Mediterranean ..
        2. Weyland
          Weyland 6 May 2018 21: 20
          +1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          And for some reason it is more salty

          more than double. Thanks to the huge influx of fresh waters of the Danube, Dnieper, Dniester, Don and Kuban.
    6. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 6 May 2018 14: 55
      +5
      Quote: zyzx
      I think it is strange having the Black Sea with us to go to the same sea to the Basurmans.

      I think it is strange, having salaries, the size of which is expressed in six-digit and seven-digit numbers, "take care" of their citizens-voters in the amount of 11 rubles ... belay
    7. protoss
      protoss 6 May 2018 15: 07
      +6
      better for Basurmans than in Sochi for Armenians. laughing
      Yes, and the Black Sea can not be compared with the Mediterranean, and even the ocean somewhere in the Maldives is finally something.
    8. Greenwood
      Greenwood 6 May 2018 16: 27
      +3
      Quote: zyzx
      Black Sea with us
      And we have the Sea of ​​Japan in Primorye, and your Black puddle is up to it, as to the Moon. We have real salty ocean water and a rich fauna that you did not have offspring. Nevertheless, this does not prevent Primorye from flying regularly to China, Thailand, Vietnam and the Philippines on vacation.
      1. Crane operator Nahamkinson
        Crane operator Nahamkinson 6 May 2018 16: 33
        +2
        Everyone praises his swamp.
        And Japanese garbage in addition.
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 6 May 2018 20: 35
          +1
          Fortunately, Fukushima shits in the direction of the ocean, so Primorye is cleaner than Black, along with the Baltic.
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 7 May 2018 00: 21
            0
            Lord, is anyone else afraid of Fukushima?
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 7 May 2018 07: 56
              0
              If in Chernobyl the sarcophagus is above the reactor, and nothing goes to the Dnieper through the groundwater, then in Fukushima everything neatly goes to the Pacific Ocean.
        2. Greenwood
          Greenwood 7 May 2018 00: 20
          0
          Quote: Crane operator Nahamkinson
          And Japanese garbage in addition.
          Do you have a fetish for the word "garbage"? And have you ever seen garbage in Japan?
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 May 2018 14: 11
    +6
    Crimea and Abkhazia need to WORK to become a competitor to Turkey in terms of service. Value for money in Turks ABOVE. There, running into impolite treatment in a five-star hotel is generally not normal. Food, service, entertainment. Well, they invested a lot of money in their service. And the people there in the service service PASHET for copper money. Freebies are not waiting.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 6 May 2018 15: 01
      +2
      Eugene, join. Our long time to get rid of this very "freebie." In addition to the sea, sun and air at an affordable price, they can not offer anything.
  5. izya top
    izya top 6 May 2018 14: 12
    +5
    we do not need a turkish coast stop us and in the Crimea fun yes
  6. RedKors1953
    RedKors1953 6 May 2018 14: 24
    0
    Turkey. Lunch at school gave us much tastier.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 6 May 2018 14: 27
      +2
      Quote: RedKors1953
      Lunch at school gave us much tastier.

      Did you have a restaurant in your school? belay
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 6 May 2018 15: 07
        +1
        Igor, they say, right now they feed 15-day-olds like sanatoriums. Some even "registered" there ...
        At school ... studied 1975-1986. Every summer in a pioneer camp. They fed ... Well, yes, there were no pineapple bananas, but they were all healthy. And compote of dried fruits !!!!
        1. izya top
          izya top 6 May 2018 15: 11
          +1
          hi
          Quote: sabakina
          And compote of dried fruits !!!!

          and how deliciously crunch bones from apricots and peaches between the door and the jamb winked
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 6 May 2018 17: 00
            0
            Quote: izya top
            and how deliciously crunch bones from apricots and peaches between the door and the jamb

            I pressed my fingers like that once, and since then only with a hammer .... repeat
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 6 May 2018 16: 58
          0
          Quote: sabakina
          Well, yes, there were no pineapple bananas, but all were healthy

          And we were young and cheerful, all life ahead. And now we are old (relatively) gadgets, sores only increase every year, and during a rare vacation I really want pineapples with bananas. laughing And also grilled meat with an irregular additive and beer in the same proportions. And so as not to think, consider - how much money you need to leave, so that it is not very poor to reach the rest of the vacation.
          Glory- hi
        3. protoss
          protoss 6 May 2018 17: 42
          +1
          the first time was in a pioneer camp in 1987. in anapa. "polar dawns". I remember that they went forever hungry, in the evening with the boys they made their way to the canteen, they grilled brown bread. as I understand it, the local staff stupidly carried food from house to house, but the children didn’t have enough.
  7. Opera
    Opera 6 May 2018 14: 32
    +5
    Of course Crimea! Everything is there, dear! I love the old city of Yevpatoriya with its narrow streets and shell fences. And the bell ringing of temples and the call of the muezzin from the minaret of the mosque and the ringing of trams on Pionerskaya street floating above this small and calm city. Well, Sevastopol is certainly a special Russian city! Those who go to Turkey let them go. After all, it’s good that so many of our compatriots can go to rest where they want on their vacation. But Germans are already waiting for our traditional congratulations on May 9! And it’s good that there is a choice of a vacation spot! And the abolition of the visa regime is good. Someone still seems to isolate us all?
  8. Moskovit
    Moskovit 6 May 2018 14: 41
    +3
    Prices and service are better there. But this is just an excuse to learn from the Turks, and not clench your fists. I saw a whole tourism institute in Sochi. Where did his graduates go?
  9. Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov 6 May 2018 14: 47
    +1
    I think that we need to attract Turkish specialists to organize tourism in the Crimea and on the southern Black Sea coast of the Russian Federation. The warm season is shorter than in Turkey. But the main thing for Russian women is to take a break from the kitchen, tasty inexpensive food, excursions to historical sights, and entertainment. They bathe in pools, and not in the Mediterranean Sea. If we have a service like in Turkey, and swimming in the pool will replace swimming in the sea, then the holiday season can be significantly longer. The nature of Crimea is beautiful even in cold weather. Crimean Tatars are attracted by the service sector. Turks can attract Tatars and other Crimeans into a modern, developed resort business and compete with our archaically clumsy tourism.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 6 May 2018 16: 29
      +3
      Quote: Leonid Dymov
      For Russian women, the main thing is to relax from the kitchen, tasty inexpensive food, excursions to historical sights, entertainment
      Russian women go to Turkey for a few other reasons. wassat However, of course, they also rest from the kitchen.
      1. protoss
        protoss 6 May 2018 17: 44
        0
        Russian women go there mainly with children and husbands
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 7 May 2018 00: 21
          +1
          We do not forget about the so-called S.ex-tourism. It is highly developed in Turkey.
          1. protoss
            protoss 7 May 2018 00: 27
            0
            so it seems in thailand.
            in Turkey it’s the type of sport of the local “macho” at the resort (in principle, like ours on the Black Sea coast) - hunting for lonely women vacationers.
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 7 May 2018 16: 43
              0
              Quote: protoss
              so it seems in thailand.
              Men go to Thailand for this matter (the main thing is not to run into the ladder lol ) Aunts go to Turkey, yearning for the strong male arms of young Turkish macho. wassat
  10. samarin1969
    samarin1969 6 May 2018 14: 47
    +1
    It is difficult to understand how it is beneficial to Russia ... In addition, “visa-free” “Turks” from hot spots are a problem.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 6 May 2018 16: 30
      +3
      Quote: samarin1969
      It is difficult to understand how it is beneficial to Russia
      Beneficial to Russian citizens who love Turkish resorts.
  11. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 6 May 2018 14: 51
    +2
    Oh, taiga, my taiga, I’ll say it’s not the case ...
  12. tech3030
    tech3030 6 May 2018 15: 44
    +2
    And let's get a couple of f16 in the back, well, and look what's what ?!
  13. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 6 May 2018 16: 21
    +3
    Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu in Russian on television invited Russians to visit Turkey, where the food is very beautiful and very tasty


    Translated into human language - we need your money!
    And personally, I do not need the Turkish coast. I am now, at the moment in the Crimea on the South Coast. And I feel good.
  14. Vittt
    Vittt 6 May 2018 17: 09
    0
    Quote: 210ox
    But seriously ... In addition to Black, there is Azov and Baikal and a lot of places. We don’t need a Turkish coast.
    Quote: Avis-bis
    Quote: zyzx
    having the Black Sea we have to go to the same sea

    Are you serious??? belay

    Great to swim in Baikal laughing
    Once I argued with a classmate at the institute that I would last 2 minutes in an ice hole (it was in Ukraine in 1991). Hold on. Crawled out on the elbows, because brushes already tu-tu. They were intensively rubbed with “Cipr” cologne, did not get sick, that very evening they drank a win at a restaurant (won 25 rubles, Soviet), 5 rubles per person. - gorgeous. Sochi and Baikal for redemption, so to speak - 2 big differences. I was on Lake Baikal, wet my feet, there were no debaters, I left with nothing laughing
    1. protoss
      protoss 6 May 2018 17: 50
      0
      looked at the airline sales Moscow Ulan-Ude at my family round-trip in July 88 thousand rubles.
      I’m in June for almost a month in Turkish 4 stars with an all inclusive and a flight from Moscow for 157 thousand. I’m flying.
      the choice is obvious.
  15. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 7 May 2018 06: 59
    0
    Sometime in the early 90s, many of our citizens began to look for cheap Chinese consumer goods, thereby ending the domestic light industry, other smart people relied on the products of Japanese, European and American automobile concerns, the same with civil aviation. Now at stake is Tourism! And what's next, Russia itself ??? Apparently it is necessary to wash abundantly with blood, dirt and humiliation in order to feel love for the Homeland ??? There will be no change in the minds, apparently it will be so.