The United States proposes to cover aircraft with drones. Mako - one of the applicants

U.S. company KRATOS Defense gets the opportunity to export its unmanned aerial vehicles to potential customers in Europe and countries in the Asia-Pacific region. First of all, we are talking about the new Mako UAV (UTAP-22 Mako). This is a lethal vehicle, having a length of about 6,1 m and a wingspan - 3,2 m.

Mako has a subsonic speed (around Mach 0,9). The maximum altitude for the UAV is 15,2 thousand meters, the flight range - 2,6 thousand km. He is able to lift into the air up to half a ton of cargo, the main of which is weapons.

Feature of this drone is that it can be both controlled by an operator from the ground and controlled by an aircraft pilot. In the second case, the drone actually turns into a slave unmanned aircraft that can perform tasks, for example, cover manned air objects.

The decision on the possibility of selling Mako UAVs abroad was made in March of this year, but it is only now being brought to the attention of the general interested public. It is stated that the export of the latest American drones, called "loyal slave wing", will be carried out as part of the Allied support program. Several countries have already approached KRATOS with an offer to purchase several of these UAVs. According to some reports, these are Britain and Taiwan. It is planned to implement about 500 such drones over the next two years, for which cooperation with other private producers can be used.

In the United States themselves, several such drones were procured for the needs of the Navy.

Comments

[Thrall]

Another prodigy is expensive

[Tusv]

Well, not chavchem. We are an aggressive UFO country. Substitute for our missiles and go the second wave of “axes”. Just do not understand that we really identify them by behavior

[Logall]

I want to see how these drones start to shoot down their own aircraft. After the electronic warfare, I think this will happen ...

[cniza]

It is likely to be pecking on who is closer .. Greetings!

[Hire]

which can perform tasks, for example, covering manned air targets.

How, with their maneuverability, will they cover the planes? And for pilots it’s generally trash - whether to perform an anti-ballistic maneuver, or to control a drone. And in principle, it’s a bad idea to fly two planes in flight.

[210ox]

You are wrong .. More precisely, not quite right .. Ours did something similar with the landing of the Buran .... He actually performed the actions of a pilot flying nearby on an airplane .. Already then.

Quote: Hire

which can perform tasks, for example, covering manned air targets.

How, with their maneuverability, will they cover the planes? And for pilots it’s generally trash - whether to perform an anti-ballistic maneuver, or to control a drone. And in principle, it’s a bad idea to fly two planes in flight.

[Hire]

Quote: 210ox

.He actually performed the actions of a pilot flying nearby on an airplane ..

Hello Dmitry This is the first time I hear such a version of those events. And you know, I doubt its reliability. Just because I know where and how the landing program was written. The program did not involve human intervention until the stop of the Buran.

[NN52]

Hire
This version of events has been known for a long time ...

[Hire]

Quote: NN52

Hire
This version of events has been known for a long time ...

Perhaps you know more.

[210ox]

Victor, I won’t argue. It was just that a teacher at the institute told me at the department of automation and telemechanics. He worked on this issue several years before.

Quote: Hire

Quote: 210ox

.He actually performed the actions of a pilot flying nearby on an airplane ..

Hello Dmitry This is the first time I hear such a version of those events. And you know, I doubt its reliability. Just because I know where and how the landing program was written. The program did not involve human intervention until the stop of the Buran.

[Reserve buildbat]

Sorry, but if the “Buran” “actually performed the actions of the pilot,” he would have sat far from the airfield, which is evident even from the flight paths of the “Buran” and the MiG-25 escort. "Buran" sat in fully automatic mode.

[Tusv]

Quote: Logall

I want to see how these drones start to shoot down their own aircraft. After the electronic warfare, I think it will happen.

..
No doubt. And who is easy right now? Do you think Trump can easily hang voters on ears?

[Hole puncher]

Quote: Logall

I want to see how these drones start to shoot down their own aircraft. After the electronic warfare, I think this will happen ...

The most terrible nonsense ...

[Lord of the Sith]

And if pilots refuse to bomb cities, use them as detachments

[Tusv]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

And if pilots refuse to bomb cities, use them as detachments

No, Vladyko. On the one hand, it’s good that the field is plowed and the homeless on the scrap metal are hunted down. But Well, in FIG, at least one Russian will die, whether it’s a hateful little pig

[cniza]

Unfortunately, we do not have it for expensive either.

[bouncyhunter]

Vitya, but these facts do not cause suspicion?

It is planned to sell about 500 of these drones in the next two years.

In the United States themselves, several such drones were procured for the needs of the Navy.

Another way to chop cabbage from partners?

[cniza]

That’s for sure, the chopping machine chopping cabbage without stopping for a moment.

[bouncyhunter]

This is already on a subconscious level for mattresses, as a kleptomaniac has enough.

[cniza]

In a neighboring state, there are also advanced workers in this specialty.

[bouncyhunter]

Yeah, and the main Stakhanovite is pan president.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Thrall

Another prodigy is expensive

Quote: cniza

Unfortunately, we do not have it for expensive either.

Who said? The fact that GDP was voiced and shown to the Federation Council is not cheap and very effective. Only it seems to me that they didn’t show everything and left something for dessert. In addition, Shoigu voiced the fact that more than 200 new weapons were tested in Syria, and of which, the great secret is the sovereign.

[cniza]

Yes, we really hope, but in matters of impact drones, we are not finalizing.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: cniza

Yes, we really hope, but in matters of impact drones, we are not finalizing.

So then it is so Victor, but as they say - "Not the Gods burn the pots." There is a desire, there are brains, hands, too, seem to grow out of the fifth point, the truth is not enough, but I think Russia will put together this apparatus for longing, and for the sake of admiration.

[cniza]

That was and was always strong Russia, live ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: Thrall

Another prodigy is expensive

I don’t think ... the concept of a shock swarm of drones is quite interesting. A swarm of drones cleans the area from air defense, radar, etc., and after the pilots pointwise destroy everything else. I do not think that drones will be worn in the near future with fighters.
I would not be surprised if we also consider such a concept of shock swarms.

[rocket757]

They will adopt it, then it will be possible to carefully look at the entot apparatus, but for now it’s just a publicity stunt! Not interested.

[-Pollux]

Quote: Thrall

Another prodigy is expensive

Not even thousands of years later, they were born. Finally, it dawned that the UAV should act together with living pilots.

[san4es]

UAV Mako (UTAP-22 Mako)

Kratos Defense & Security Solutions announced that it successfully completed the second flight of its Unmanned Tactical Aerial Platform (UTAP-23) unmanned aircraft at China Lake, California, on November 2015, 22. This was the second flight in a planned series of three flights, and its mission was to practice: • joint operations with the AV-8B Harrier manned fighter; • management and control over the tactical data communication line; • performing semi-autonomous tasks; • performing autonomous flight in formation with AV-8B; • transfer of control over UTAP-22 from the satellite channel to the tactical network; • handover transfer of control from the tactical network to an independent dedicated control channel. the cost of each device, about three million dollars, will allow them to be combined and used by numerous groups that will be able to make strong adjustments to the tactics of warfare in the air.

[Thrall]

Completing a parachute mission epic looks beak down

[san4es]

Quote: Thrall

Completing a mission by parachute ...

... Yeah ... Tu-300, developed by the USSR, also landed

[sabakina]

Sanchez, prvevet! Wikipedia, you are ours, listen, but what will it cover for? How many did not look, neither a gun, nor a machine gun ....

[san4es]

Quote: sabakina

... no gun, no machine gun ....

He is able to lift into the air to half a ton of cargo, the main of which is seen weapons

The device itself has a very small size, in particular, this aircraft has a fuselage length of 6 meters 13 centimeters, and a wingspan of 3 meters 20 centimeters, while the device is capable of carrying two war rockets.

http://avia.pro/blog/utap-22-tehnicheskie-harakte
ristiki-foto

Wikipedia ...

... I do not use ... I prefer other sources (preferably from the manufacturer)
https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.a
sp? aircraft_id = 1754

[sabakina]

Sancho, I wanted to make a complement to you, and you were offended ... Well, since you don’t want to be our encyclopedia ....

[san4es]

Quote: sabakina

... you are offended ..

... I do not have such a property.

... do not want to be our encyclopedia ....

... Not Glory - too much responsibility .. suddenly I’ll mess up

[NN52]

san4es
Yes, it seems you have never confused anything ...
And straight from the manufacturer?
Do you pay them for the info there?

[san4es]

Hi Dim.

Quote: NN52

And straight from the manufacturer?
Do you pay them for the info there?

... Nah, some publish TTX and video (in the public domain) about their works

[sabakina]

Sancho, in your first video, the music, especially in the beginning, resembles one group of my youth. This is not Pink Floyd. Maybe craftwerk?

[voyaka uh]

It is ideal for interaction in speed
with the F-35. But large and expensive for the target bait.
It is more profitable to use it as a kamikaze drummer.
First uses its missile weapons (as directed from the lead aircraft),
then he rams one of the ground targets.

[Thrall]

Quote: voyaka uh

then ram itself one of the ground targets

In this situation in the compartment, saving on sewing a parachute

[family tree]

Quote: voyaka uh

It is ideal for interaction in speed
with the F-35.

So, took and burned everything? Supersound without afterburner! Or will he be a specialist in Plastunsky, hardly noticeable, so that the follower does not lag behind?

[voyaka uh]

Supersonic without afterburner in F-35 is small: 1.2 MAX for
500-600 km.
And afterburner - up to 1.6 - 1.8 MAX
But the cruising speed is exactly 0.85 - 0.9 MAX
Which, as I wrote, is ideal for collaborative
work with such jet drones.
Which is the future of military aviation.

[family tree]

Quote: voyaka uh

Supersonic without afterburner in F-35 is small: 1.2 MAX for
500-600 km.

Well, less than half an hour the fifth generation and sintered. Well, enough for your spaces, take a walk over the sea of ​​this drone. In the attack, where will he be? Oh wait me i can't so fast? Or do you still think that all the time you will stupidly be the first to spread rot of the Papuans?
Here the Italians also thought so, in armored cars in Africa, while these Papuans did not pick out with their simple spears because of the armor.

[voyaka uh]

“Where will he be in the attack?” ///

Don't you get it?
In an attack, such drones will fly ahead,
and control planes from behind.

[NEXUS]

Quote: voyaka uh

Which, as I wrote, is ideal for collaborative
work with such jet drones.

Not suitable. Drones are too light and a darling target for electronic warfare systems. Here, most likely there is a conversation about a swarm of drones, which the first wave crushes the enemy’s air defense, and after that the F-35 works with its mediocre maneuverability and not outstanding speed.

[sabakina]

Lyokha, again you are with your F-35! There is no F-35! There is no Rio de Janeiro, and there is no America, and there is no Europe. and Israel. There is nothing. In general, the last city on earth is Shepetovka, on which the waves of the Atlantic Ocean break.

[-Pollux]

Quote: voyaka uh

It is more profitable to use it as a kamikaze drummer.

Everything MAY look a little different. An UAV arrived, joined the link led by a living pilot, shot back, flew away, and the next one took its place.

[voyaka uh]

To do this, you need to attach a fair amount to the drone
additional fuel tanks. After all, he needs:
1) take off from the airfield 2) join the group 3) fly to the target and "bomb"
according to the instructions of the leader 4) return and sit down offline.
This is tricky logistics. And while such tactics are still in diapers.

[-Pollux]

Quote: voyaka uh

additional fuel tanks

No need, because manned aircraft will already be over the battlefield.

[NN52]

voyaka uh
Tomahawks will not be cheaper?

[voyaka uh]

You can compare. Tomahawk ($ 800,000) has one warhead. That is - one goal.
Such a drone ($ 3,000,000) can hit several small targets in a single raid - missiles and one large target ("ram") in an "unsuccessful" case (there is no fuel for the return trip).
Or he will return to his airfield.
In the first case, the Tomahawk is approximately equivalent in effectiveness.
In the second (with return) UAV it pays for itself in 2-3 sorties.

[family tree]

Et cho? Does the target pose an active noise interference? At the expense of the slave, yes, the salvation of the drowning, the work of the drowning themselves? Will they introduce an additional crew member to control the unit? Or they, no matter what the pilot, is no less than Gaius Julius Caesar that sprinkles the left flight report, and steers the right rear UAV, leading its flying or lethal limbs with the rest of the limbs?
Some questions

[sabakina]

Vladimir, Have you seen the drivers of our minibuses? Talking with one hand on the mobile, handing over the change with the other. Guess what he steers ...

[family tree]

Quote: sabakina

Guess what he steers ...

Vyacheslav
At the expense of minibuses, I’ll tell a joke about the ZIL-157 driver, or rather the ending.
- And I stuck the second one, a brick on a gas truck, and myself in a body, to Masha
-And steer !?
-Schaz! And the track for what?

[22 dmdc]

Some kind of illiterate driver. There is a “manual gas” on the cleaver - the carburetor flap is in the middle position and fry itself on a rut.

[Hagalaz]

I also thought the same . However, like any unmanned vehicle, the direction is promising, but the application algorithms still have to work and work.

[Vita vko]

Surely it will be effective as in breaking through the air defense system, covering the strike group with jamming and armed with an anti-radar missile. Also a good option is the delivery of bombs to targets in conjunction with the RUK or independently if the air defense system is already destroyed.

[family tree]

when breaking through air defense armies are needed, not a UAV with Mach 0,9.
And about special warheads on air defense missiles
No, I won’t lie, for my part, there are pure rumors, the last century, the S-125 "Pechora" complex, the "Camomile" warhead, well, I warmed up my ears, and the subscription term has long expired.
In general, "the thicker the grass, the easier it is to mow," some kind of either Hun or goth, maybe Attila, I don’t remember

[Mountain shooter]

Expected. The development of drones and should go, later they will do through unmanned aircraft. Yes, here they are - only at the beginning of the journey. And advertised as ... In short, as Elon Musk. Three lyamas per machine - good money ...

[Vard]

Turn on the EW ... and most importantly hide when it comes down from the sky ...

[Vadim237]

We turn on the electronic warfare and wait until a bomb or rocket with a GOS target, a radio interference source, flies into it.

[Vard]

An anti-aircraft gunner ... by the way, I served in Syria and told me that this problem is solved elementarily ... In the same Yugoslavia, microwave ovens were turned on ...

[Vadim237]

"This problem is solved elementarily" - How, how?

[TOR2]

Quote: Vard

An anti-aircraft gunner ... by the way, I served in Syria and told me that this problem is solved elementarily ... In the same Yugoslavia, microwave ovens were turned on.

The first element in solving the problem will be an increase in funding for the Radiophysical Research Institute.
The second will be the addition to the air defense system of additional elements that had not been dreamed of before. An example is a laser locator. In the Terra project, such a locator could see for 400 km. Of course, a huge minus is the energy intensity of the installation. In addition, the installation must be mobile and not every carrier will pull it, which makes it the prerogative of object-based air defense. Although the energy intensity carries positive aspects. In order for the adversary to reach such a locator, the enemy will need a lot of energy, and there’s simply nowhere to get it from in the sky. And of course, everything the NATO team is so proud of becomes visible, and from afar.
What I have outlined is just a small part of what you need to start doing today.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: Vard

An anti-aircraft gunner ... by the way, I served in Syria and told me that this problem is solved elementarily ...

And you believed. And to analyze, to delve into the available materials in any way?

[dvina71]

Quote: Vadim237

We turn on the electronic warfare and wait until a bomb or a rocket with a GOS reference point flies into it

This missile for the Thor and the Shell is no different from the others. Any long-range air defense system with a powerful locator is covered by them.

[ZVO]

Quote: dvina71

Quote: Vadim237

We turn on the electronic warfare and wait until a bomb or a rocket with a GOS reference point flies into it

This missile for the Thor and the Shell is no different from the others. Any long-range air defense system with a powerful locator is covered by them.

They (tori and shells) will be destroyed by the first ten missiles.
And yes. look how the English PRLR worked.
For her, a torus or shell is generally babble.
And the second will fly to the source of the reb ...

Remember how many dozens of missiles the Americans and the Angles fired in the Gulf War without hesitation ... Just for one impulse.

[net0103net]

This is a good innovation for them and dangerous for us, the main idea of ​​which no one has caught - as a result, it is an anti-aircraft missile aimed from the air. In this case, no matter how good our pilots and planes are, there will be many posthumous Heroes of Russia, as well as disappointments that the Americans are stupid (according to Zadornov). It is necessary to confuse them in this) ...

[sabakina]

In fact, even before Zadornov, a German Wehrmacht general said about them. In the train. Stirlitz.

[Vard]

Subsonic anti-aircraft missile ... Original ...

[APASUS]

What is this hat?
UAV Mako (UTAP-22 Mako) has artificial intelligence and mastered the art of air combat, which means it has an AFAR and a friend-or-foe system. It’s even more interesting how this will be controlled by a co-pilot, he has nothing to do

[sabakina]

Campaign, everything goes to this ...

[pafegosoff]

And what the hell AFAR? It is controlled remotely. And who is his own, who is a stranger, the interrogator will determine with E-2-3-8 ... Although, the radio transponder with the "Explosion" button takes up little space and weight. Receiver - even less (if this is not an ancient ground-based radar of the all-round P-35)

[MadCat]

Quote: pafegosoff

And what the hell AFAR?

scans the space behind with Phantoms off ...

[pafegosoff]

If instead of a ton of combat load on the Tu-300, take 800 kg of additional kerosene and a more economical engine, then it would be quite comparable.
And from "Caliber to create a variant of a drone escort?
So there is nothing new. Another thing is that it was created more as an export option ... Again, pull the Allies on money, as with the F-35? Therefore, quality will yield to quantity.

[Conserp]

"Global Hawk" flies for 20 years, knows how to land.
And here is such squalor a la 70s.
Behind fashionable advertising words does not cost anything. "Can I control from the plane"? Wow! A Chinese toy quadrocopter can also be controlled by sitting on the toilet in a train. That's where the progress is! Scream.