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Why do US marines conduct exercises using Mi-24 and Mi-17?

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The visit of the Polish Minister of Defense Mariusz Blaszczak to Washington should result in an increase in the US military presence in the country. If initially we were talking about the NATO battalion in Poland and about three battalions in the Baltic countries, now we are talking about a new increase in the strength of the NATO military contingent. So, last Friday, 2,8 thousand NATO troops were transferred to Poland, of which 2,3 thousand were Americans. Together with them, over a thousand different units of military equipment were imported into the country, including Tanks and helicopters. It is reported by the Polish newspaper Republic.


In Washington, visited by Blashchak, the American authorities praised the Polish partners for deciding to raise the bar for financing the military component from 2-s to 2,5 percent of GDP. It is noteworthy that the President of the United States, Trump, praised Poland for such a step in the presence of German Chancellor Angela Merkel, making it clear that she should correspond to her geographical neighbor.

According to Blashchak, the increase in expenditures on the military component, as well as the deployment of an additional NATO contingent in Poland "should become a signal to Russia."

Against this background, there are reports from the United States that American marines have begun using Russian Mi-24 and Mi-17 helicopters in exercises. The press service of the US Marine Corps says that these helicopters will imitate reconnaissance and attack, including at air targets. In particular, communication signals are scanned.

Why do US marines conduct exercises using Mi-24 and Mi-17?


It is noted that in this way, the US Marines will study the functionality of the "potential enemy" helicopters and "will be able to counteract them."
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  1. Logall
    Logall 1 May 2018 15: 08
    +14
    Let them learn from old models, with old protection systems ... The new ones, in which case, they will be very "pleasantly" surprised!
    1. Black_Vatnik
      Black_Vatnik 1 May 2018 15: 15
      +21
      the fact is that they are preparing and are not shy about demonstrating this.
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 1 May 2018 15: 20
        +9
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        they are getting ready and are not shy about demonstrating it.

        They are demonstratively putting pressure on the psyche: they say, now the Russians will surrender without a fight.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 1 May 2018 15: 26
          +7
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          They are demonstratively putting pressure on the psyche: they say, now the Russians will surrender without a fight.

          To whom? To the Poles?
          Wouldn’t go crazy lol
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 1 May 2018 15: 35
            +5
            Volodya hi There may well be pushing "on both sides." And it’s easier to breathe logs, and their soldiers get used to the enemy equipment and are not afraid of it. Well, the Russians see NATO’s brave preparations for war with them and put them in their pants in advance. yes
            1. Logall
              Logall 1 May 2018 15: 37
              +7
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              Well русские see NATO’s brave preparations for war with them and put in pants beforehand .

              Pasha, I hope you are not serious?
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 1 May 2018 15: 39
                +7
                Sanya, do you have something: something with a sense of humor happened? what
                1. Logall
                  Logall 1 May 2018 16: 19
                  +6
                  Apparently shook at some kind of fall, today wink do you know ...
                  We neglect our own defense, are not afraid (maybe in vain) ... And if we put it in our pants, then in the enemy’s. More stones! "Do good, throw it into the water."
                  1. bouncyhunter
                    bouncyhunter 1 May 2018 16: 23
                    +4
                    Quote: Logall
                    do you know ...

                    I - yes, and an outside observer will be perplexed: what are they talking about? lol
                    Quote: Logall
                    And if we put it in our pants, then in the enemy ones. More stones!

                    Yes, there are enough "bricks" without us. wassat
                    Quote: Logall
                    "Do good, throw it into the water!"

                    "It will not be lost - good will return to you!" wink
                    1. Logall
                      Logall 1 May 2018 16: 38
                      +10
                      Quote: bouncyhunter
                      Yes, there are enough "bricks" without us.

                      It is impossible without us! They are with "good" to us, but what are we worse?
                      "It's me, good Ehh ... You will remember me for a century!"
                      It is pleasant to recall the good old, Soviet classics.
                      1. bouncyhunter
                        bouncyhunter 1 May 2018 16: 45
                        +6
                        All the same old good cartoon "Wow! Talking fish!" . good
                        Quote: Logall
                        It is impossible without us! They are with "good" to us, but what are we worse?

                        But nothing. They’ll come with a sword - they’ll receive a shout, as has already happened.
                      2. Inok10
                        Inok10 1 May 2018 22: 48
                        +3
                        Quote: bouncyhunter
                        They’ll come with a sword - they’ll receive a shout, as has already happened.

                        ... Good evenings! ... Pash ... hi ... Today, with “Drag nah Osten” they have a Problem ... There is no leader ... Germany left the game back in 1945 ... therefore, Poland was appointed a replacement ... but it’s too small, that’s a fact ... decided to strengthen Scandinavia ... Sweden and Finland ... but there isn’t everything to suit ... also ... historical memory ... "Old Europe" in this "dubious event" no longer wants to get involved ... not for what kind of carriages ... pump the New-East ... wait and see ... but what on the topic ... I didn’t see such things, I remember earlier in the days of the USSR, there was a squadron "Aggressor" and now lives on, now after the death of the USSR there was an opportunity to buy real weapons ... the essence hasn’t changed, as they were "rehearsing" then, and at this time ... why are we surprised ?! ... hi
                      3. igorka357
                        igorka357 2 May 2018 05: 38
                        +1
                        Just a gorgeous cartoon ... good !
            2. Tusv
              Tusv 1 May 2018 16: 00
              +1
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              Well, the Russians see NATO’s brave preparations for war with them and put it in their pants in advance

              Alas, Pasha. We don’t have netutitis diapers to put in our pants. drinks But I met the pilot of the Tr-1 in the air, who soared my brains 14 hours a day, and so for 4 days. Breakfast, lunch and dinner directly to the station and I really rocked, and what was happening on the modernized doubled. I really shot him with arrows, and he was all an abscessor. Just like a nail recourse
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 1 May 2018 16: 11
                +3
                Let not the NATO members climb: they simply breed fanabery for the Young Europeans: they say that we are for you. wink
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv 1 May 2018 16: 22
                  +6
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  Let not the NATO members climb: they simply breed fanabery for the Young Europeans: they say that we are for you.

                  I do not know what is fanoberia. But climb Pasha !. Even ashamed of the paramilitary. In my time, one hundred kilometers from the border is a crime, now 25 from the border and without diapers. Although give the order to the entire European Nato force to sit and not a fisherman at their airfields drinks Tired of this liberalism. Who the Guards badge wears. We or Putin, or maybe NATO?
                  1. bouncyhunter
                    bouncyhunter 1 May 2018 16: 27
                    +2
                    Quote: Tusv
                    I do not know what is fanoberia.

                    Fanaberiya - empty, based on nothing, inappropriate arrogance; empty petty swagger.
                    Quote: Tusv
                    Tired of this liberalism. Who the Guards badge wears. We or Putin, or maybe NATO?

                    I agree with you, but I really believe that everything will change soon. wink
                    1. Tusv
                      Tusv 1 May 2018 16: 37
                      0
                      Quote: bouncyhunter
                      I agree with you, but I really believe that everything will change soon

                      Do not change. It's 50 years old. But !. We are an Umbrella for you, you are a music contest for everyone - "Slavic Bazaar" - We show on World TV channel drinks
            3. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 1 May 2018 20: 49
              +2
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              Well, the Russians see NATO’s brave preparations for war with them and put it in their pants in advance
              You mixed up the word Pasha))) They don’t “put” it in pants, but “put it” —the difference is small, but the meaning changes dramatically .... Well, then according to V. Mayakovsky - “I take out from wide legs, with a duplicate of an invaluable load - 10 grenade and "Stechkin" one, automatic and shoot "from the belly."
          2. Prisoner
            Prisoner 1 May 2018 18: 00
            0
            Well, not for us. What is the point of putting pressure on our psyche? They show the Poles that they are very determined.
        2. Black_Vatnik
          Black_Vatnik 1 May 2018 15: 40
          +3
          Demonstratively press on the psyche


          I don’t think that there are so fools as to think so primitively about Russia.
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 1 May 2018 15: 41
            +4
            I, too, am not inclined to underestimate them, but I do not see an overestimation either.
            1. Black_Vatnik
              Black_Vatnik 1 May 2018 15: 43
              +3
              So I just state, and who overestimates?
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 1 May 2018 15: 47
                +2
                None (I hope). It's just that all this looks very much like a props in order to intimidate a potential enemy and mislead him about his intentions.
                1. weksha50
                  weksha50 1 May 2018 19: 03
                  +2
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  misleading him about his intentions .


                  Um ... I apologize ... Already gobble up and destroy Russia - in these intentions the United States and its henchmen are hard to make a mistake ... hi
                  That's just the impudence is already whipping over the edge in all respects ...
                  It's a shame for the power ...
                2. sabakina
                  sabakina 1 May 2018 19: 13
                  0
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  None (I hope). It's just that all this looks very much like a props in order to intimidate a potential enemy and mislead him about his intentions.

                  Pashka, well, you wrapped up on a holiday ...
        3. Serge Gorely
          Serge Gorely 1 May 2018 15: 54
          +6
          Poles are proud ... They could not under the Soviet "occupation" ... But under the American - they can!
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 1 May 2018 15: 57
            +3
            Quote: Serge Gorely
            Could not under the Soviet "occupation" ... But under the American - they can!

            The USA will leave Poland - we’ll see how the logs will sing. wink
            1. vovanpain
              vovanpain 1 May 2018 16: 12
              +7
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              The USA will leave Poland - we’ll see how the logs will sing

              Pasha Yankees only kick out, they themselves do not go out of nowhere. drinks hi
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 1 May 2018 16: 16
                +3
                Quote: vovanpain
                the yankees just kick out

                This was meant by "leaving." soldier Even when they go away they will look back in the hope that they will be able to stay (or return a little later). drinks
      2. tol100v
        tol100v 1 May 2018 15: 52
        +1
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        the fact is that they are preparing and are not shy about demonstrating this.

        How would these turntables not be used for provocations! Draw the side numbers of the Russian Air Force is not such a big problem. And taking into account recent trends, especially!
        1. Grandfather Eugene
          Grandfather Eugene 1 May 2018 16: 36
          +1
          Quote: Tol100v
          How would these turntables not be used for provocations!


          Quite possibly. Brandenburg in American.
      3. dorz
        dorz 1 May 2018 16: 00
        0
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        the fact is that they are preparing and are not shy about demonstrating this.

        Americans are always ready to invade a foreign country to support the opposition.
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 1 May 2018 16: 45
          +5
          Quote: dorz
          Quote: Black_Jacket
          the fact is that they are preparing and are not shy about demonstrating this.

          Americans are always ready to invade a foreign country to support the opposition.

          If we are talking about sending troops to Ukraine (with any sauce), then the opposition there does not seem to smell. Rather, the "peacekeepers" of NATO will be portrayed.
          1. dorz
            dorz 1 May 2018 17: 02
            0
            Quote: Doliva63
            If we are talking about sending troops to Ukraine (with any sauce), then the opposition there does not seem to smell. Rather, the "peacekeepers" of NATO will be portrayed.

            I think that in the future all these preparations are being prepared for the invasion of Russia.
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 1 May 2018 19: 38
              +4
              Quote: dorz
              Quote: Doliva63
              If we are talking about sending troops to Ukraine (with any sauce), then the opposition there does not seem to smell. Rather, the "peacekeepers" of NATO will be portrayed.

              I think that in the future all these preparations are being prepared for the invasion of Russia.

              A direct NATO invasion of the Russian Federation is unlikely today. Another thing is to send troops to Ukraine to begin with. Already a different picture, agree? And there - everything can be.
              1. dorz
                dorz 1 May 2018 21: 20
                +2
                There are many scenarios. The main thing is that NATO is determined to act.
      4. NEXUS
        NEXUS 1 May 2018 18: 25
        0
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        the fact is that they are preparing and are not shy about demonstrating this.

        There is an important aspect - they clearly indicate against whom this is all done. Now, let someone give a hint about the fact that they are partners ...
      5. Allitet
        Allitet 2 May 2018 19: 11
        0
        What are they so afraid of? All of Europe under the boot of the Americans! Probably for your own significance!
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 1 May 2018 15: 33
      +10
      The scum are getting ready
      Journalists cite a military request stating that "Russian helicopters will be deployed as an aggressor force opposing forces engaged in offensive and defensive operations." Ideally, the US military would also like to get “an aircraft capable of carrying out an air attack of friendly forces, as well as collect intelligence about friendly forces.” Let's add that this is not the first and, alas, not the last story with “Russian training equipment battles against Russia. " So in 2017, the Pentagon quite officially hired a Russian-speaking “extras” to train the US Army to capture and control “Russian villages.” In addition, according to a number of media and experts, Ukraine has already sold old Russian planes to the US military - they worked on possible air battles. However, all the planes (even if from the times of the USSR) weren’t enough - that’s why the American Air Force decided to repaint several of their planes in the colors of the “aggressor”, so that the pilots would get used to “hitting the enemy’s colors.” We note that in 2017 there was a huge scandal - the press learned that the Pentagon has officially announced a tender for biomaterials of Russians from all over the country. Initially, it was reported that the “Russian RNA” will be studied exclusively for peaceful purposes - however, a number of world experts suggested that such biomaterials may be needed to create “targeted biological weapons”.
      www.pravda.ru/news/world/01-05-2018/13830
      05-0 /
      negative
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 1 May 2018 22: 12
        +2
        A waste of time and ... they don’t learn anything from that!
        Our warriors will put their wit and non-standard actions to all their instructions and plans !!!
        The funny thing is that EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT THIS, but for some reason they think that this will not happen to them ???
        HA, ha, ha .... glory to our Van, Vasya the soldier, who are very smart on all plans, put his --- yu ..... ingenuity!
      2. Grandfather Eugene
        Grandfather Eugene 9 May 2018 16: 05
        0
        Quote: vovanpain
        "targeted biological weapons."


        Biolaboratory surrounded. Now it’s up to the collection of biomaterial and the creation of a gene phage that acts only on Russians. And these are not fairy tales who agree on the topic.
    3. Arakius
      Arakius 2 May 2018 17: 26
      +1
      Do the Russian military use the latest US equipment in the exercises as an adversary?
  2. APASUS
    APASUS 1 May 2018 15: 09
    +6
    It is noted that in this way, the US Marines will study the functionality of the "potential enemy" helicopters and "will be able to counteract them."

    They can’t even stick a justified reason for using!
    Of all the weapons, for example, MI-24:, countermeasures can only be given to guided missiles, and everything else is just fiction:
    weaponry
    Built-in rifle gun: depending on version
    Number of pendant points: 6 (4)
    Suspended rifle-cannon: 2 containers UPK-23-250 or 2 GUV with machine guns or 2 (4) GUV with grenade launchers
    Guided missile: Sturm-B, Attack-M, Hermes-A
    Unguided missile: S-5, S-8, S-13, S-24
    “Air-to-air”: R-60M, R-63V, “Igla-V”, 9M220O “Attack”
    Bomb: bombs and cartridges in caliber from 50 to 500 kg.

    The main goal is the formation of a strong belief in the military that entering the territory of Russia in front of them is an aggressor. Hostility towards the Russians at the level of instincts is developed
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 1 May 2018 15: 20
      +3
      Quote: APASUS
      Of all the weapons, for example, MI-24:, countermeasures can only be given to guided missiles, and everything else is just fiction:

      Some pilots with one S-8 fall into the tank at once. S-24 is already the WTO hi
    2. dvina71
      dvina71 1 May 2018 15: 55
      +3
      Quote: APASUS
      The main goal is the formation of a strong belief in the military that entering the territory of Russia in front of them is an aggressor. Hostility towards the Russians at the level of instincts is developed

      Che so categorically? Half the world is equipped with Russian weapons .. Just those half of the world that the states have yet to put under full control .. They use the Mi-24 since the 90s .., for training MP ..
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 1 May 2018 16: 00
        +1
        Quote: dvina71
        Che so categorically? Half the world is equipped with Russian weapons ..

        I recognize the handwriting, I'm not me and not my cow!
        The exercises of the American troops stationed in Germany with the participation of Russian-speaking extras are not preparing for any action, said US spokesman Chris Bradley, spokesman for the Joint Multinational Center for the Training of Military Personnel in the Federal Republic of Germany.
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 1 May 2018 16: 02
          +1
          Quote: APASUS
          I recognize the handwriting, I'm not me and not my cow!

          I don’t know what you learned there, but to confront the RF Armed Forces, they need to purchase MI-28 and Ka-52 ..
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 1 May 2018 18: 26
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      Of all the weapons, for example, MI-24:, countermeasures can only be given to guided missiles, and everything else is just fiction:

      But the Hunter and the Alligator are completely different carriages, however, like the MI-35.
  3. Tusv
    Tusv 1 May 2018 15: 11
    +4
    According to Blashchak, the increase in expenditures on the military component, as well as the deployment of an additional NATO contingent in Poland "should become a signal to Russia."

    Of course. We understand the signals and place the Iskander, S-400 with all the ensuing security forces.
    Enough for the S-400 division? I think it will not be enough hi
  4. dog breeder
    dog breeder 1 May 2018 15: 15
    +2
    A car without a crew is like a dead man.
  5. svp67
    svp67 1 May 2018 15: 18
    +4
    Why do US marines conduct exercises using Mi-24 and Mi-17?
    Exactly for what they create settlements with the Russian-speaking population on their landfills - FOR TRAINING THE WAR WITH US
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 1 May 2018 15: 47
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      Exactly for what they create settlements with the Russian-speaking population on their landfills - FOR TRAINING THE WAR WITH US

      They need settlements with pseudo-Russian, We do not. We do not see further the Slavic world. And there’s nothing to it. Holidays in Croatia - They understand roofing felts in Russian, roofing felts We are in Croatian. A week later, violet! Although the aggressively-minded NATO country hi
    2. Volchara85
      Volchara85 1 May 2018 16: 44
      0
      Yeah. Useless, I think, training. The mentality of our hinterland is special. And "E, the uterus, the hens, the milk-eggs, dafai!" it's not gonna go
  6. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 1 May 2018 15: 25
    +1
    this is preparing soldiers for a possible enemy so that each soldier is psychologically ready for this enemy
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 1 May 2018 16: 50
      +6
      Quote: seregatara1969
      this is preparing soldiers for a possible enemy so that each soldier is psychologically ready for this enemy

      Can you really assume that Putin wants to attack them? belay
      And if not, then it turns out that they are preparing for an attack?
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 1 May 2018 15: 33
    0
    All this, and the teachings - window dressing! The quantity and quality of troops in Poland and the Baltic states is not enough for anything! Neither for defense, nor, moreover, for the offensive ...
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 1 May 2018 15: 59
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Neither for defense, nor, moreover, for the offensive ...

      Enough for the police operation, which they will certainly carry out ... if the EBN is again in power .. at 90 they relaxed .., the second one will not be allowed to make such a mistake.
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 1 May 2018 16: 04
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      All this, and the teachings - window dressing! The quantity and quality of troops in Poland and the Baltic states is not enough for anything! Neither for defense, nor, moreover, for the offensive ...

      But it should be noted that from year to year there is a supposedly imperceptible increase in forces and means, both qualitative and quantitative! And at some point they will be enough not only for "defense", but also for an attack!
  8. Evil 55
    Evil 55 1 May 2018 15: 44
    0
    The main thing is to know the last thing they see in this life ..
  9. viktor.
    viktor. 1 May 2018 16: 05
    +2
    Pole is sorry crying chicks say beautiful. wassat
  10. Bok tubres
    Bok tubres 1 May 2018 16: 16
    0
    Whatever they do, no matter how they "scare" and try to puzzle, it is necessary - "do your thing",develop ARMY и FLEET. And most importantly ... deal with internal enemies sent by Cossacks from the era of the 90s ... Here they are, a terrible NATO force at our borders.
    With "turntables", a typical Amer example of bullying.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 1 May 2018 16: 54
      +4
      Quote: Bok Tubres
      Whatever they do, no matter how they "scare" and try to puzzle, it is necessary - "do your thing",develop ARMY и FLEET. And most importantly ... deal with internal enemies sent by Cossacks from the era of the 90s ... Here they are, a terrible NATO force at our borders.
      With "turntables", a typical Amer example of bullying.

      The sent Cossacks from the era of the 90s are privatizers, or what? With this power they will outlive us all laughing
      1. Bok tubres
        Bok tubres 1 May 2018 17: 19
        0
        Here you are joking, and “nanotechnologies”, in the Russian Federation, are flourishing. Dimon’s account works to the fullest ...
  11. zenion
    zenion 1 May 2018 16: 37
    +1
    As one military man said, generals always prepare for a past war. The French were waiting for the Germans from the front, and they came from the rear. ------- As one Caucasian female member said, this is a partisan, you are waiting for him in front, and he comes in behind.
  12. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 1 May 2018 17: 08
    0
    They were introduced for training, after which they left Poland.
    In Poland, there is one infantry unit on a regular basis
    NATO battalion and one tank brigade of Americans
    (in the west of Poland).
    The rest: either regular rotations, or regular exercises.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 1 May 2018 19: 23
      0
      We will try to remember your words. L / s can and will return overseas. And the technique? If you stay, you will keep the answer in front of everyone!
  13. Ham
    Ham 1 May 2018 17: 27
    +2
    "a demonstration of determination" - this is what they call it ... and here we have show-offs and window dressing;) I’m ready to argue for anything - soon what kind of pompeo thread blurs something like - "we sent a clear signal to Russia"
  14. net0103net
    net0103net 1 May 2018 17: 48
    0
    Depraved and unreliable Poland upset me even when I was a pioneer and watched secretly from Polish parents ... like erotic films. However, the plot of life is always the same - a man has dignity and women have honor and virginity ... and this is how it can be corrupted and who to become after that, how to pretend that you are decent, and what European tolerance is. I will not hide, I was attracted to eroticism, and the rest I did not understand, and from this the harm was only stronger, but ... where did the KGB look!? ... On the second channel of television, after one in the morning, people were spoiled and corrupted preparing the ground ... for democracy! ..
    The abomination from the realization of what is happening then is exactly the same as from what is being done in Poland now.
  15. watchmaker
    watchmaker 1 May 2018 18: 03
    +2
    Fuck, some clowns !!!! And what do they think they scared the Russian? Even if Russia hadn’t had their weapons, they would have been taken away from them, and mixed with dust anyway .... Well, how many times have you tried a Russian person’s tooth, at least once managed to be pressed to your fingernail? The first who dares, these are the Americans, so the Poles do not need to stock up tanks, but petroleum jelly, although I think what these concessions are for, I think it’s faster without it .....
  16. Sergey Kurdenko
    Sergey Kurdenko 4 May 2018 21: 05
    0
    It is noted that in this way the US Marines will study the functionality of the helicopters of the "potential enemy" and "get the opportunity to counteract them." Fuck they learn. The Russian people are not a predictable people.