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Beijing sped up New Delhi on the S-400. But what about the Made in India program?

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The Pioneer publication publishes an article that tells us that India will acquire five C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems from Russia before the bilateral meeting of the leaders of the two countries. It is known that negotiations between Vladimir Putin and Narendra Modi (Prime Minister of India) will be held in October this year. The article itself in the publication is called "The moment of the triumph of air defense", playing up also the Russian name of the C-400 air defense system - “Triumph”.


Beijing sped up New Delhi on the S-400. But what about the Made in India program?


The publication describes in detail the numerous advantages of the Russian air defense-missile defense system over other similar systems. At the same time, once again the question is raised that the Indian authorities will also have to take measures to circumvent the anti-Russian sanctions announced by the United States.

The foreign press is not hiding the fact that India made the final decision on the acquisition of C-400 from Russia after these anti-aircraft missile systems put Beijing into service with the PLA. India for quite a long time (which becomes the norm for New Delhi) watched what decision they would take abroad (in this case in China), but now it is trying to catch up with the lag and get Russian air defense systems in the context of international geopolitical and military instability.

In India, they emphasize that the importance of modern and effective air defense systems today in the armies of the world has increased many times over. At the same time, India no longer declares its desire to receive a full set of technologies, because in this case the Russian manufacturer is unlikely to go for it.
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  1. the most important
    the most important 1 May 2018 09: 13
    +20
    And shell in addition to it !! And if Pakistan also buys airplanes ... then our defense industry will have many billions of happiness! And the main thing is that without 10 aircraft carriers of India you can’t live! It's time ... it's time to offer them more and aircraft carriers!
    1. himRa
      himRa 1 May 2018 09: 17
      +11
      At the same time, India no longer declares its desire to receive a full set of technologies, because in this case the Russian manufacturer is unlikely to do this

      It's ridiculous of course, but it’s easy to calculate! wassat
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 1 May 2018 09: 25
        +29
        Nobody has written that Nord Stream-4 will be built in South Korea through the DPRK?
        Not? Well then I will write smile
        World! Work! May!
        Happy holiday, comrades! good
        1. UAZ 452
          UAZ 452 1 May 2018 12: 04
          +14
          Correct the name to "East Stream", but otherwise everything is correct.
          1. Corporal Pupkin
            Corporal Pupkin 1 May 2018 12: 57
            +7
            This "Far Eastern Stream" to UNITED Korea will be called ...
            "Stream of MORNING FRESHNESS"
            fellow
        2. just exp
          just exp 1 May 2018 12: 21
          +7
          so far these are only plans. more precisely, not even plans, but only an idea.
          Eun proposed this pipeline and the South Koreans seem to not mind either.
          Eunu loot for transit. sub, cheaper gas.
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 1 May 2018 14: 18
            +3
            Quote: just explo
            Eunu loot for transit. sub, cheaper gas.

            ... there you can still "yaponozadnyh" put on pipe gas through the Tsushima Strait ... 200 km. all ... and all is well ... hi
            1. dSK
              dSK 1 May 2018 16: 17
              +2
              Quote: Inok10
              there you can still "japonica" planted on pipe gas

              There are fifty kilometers from Sakhalin to Hokkaido, and Gazprom has long been “dreaming” of this pipe, but the States do not give permission to defeated Japan ... They are forcing to buy their own liquefied Sakhalin -2 (they have a decent share there).
              1. Mih1974
                Mih1974 1 May 2018 17: 30
                +2
                By the way - oh, the marikas are at risk because it’s the answer for Russia lol "freeze shares of American companies in the oil and gas industry in Russia" good tongue . That is, the rights are sort of “not taken away” and even “paid dividends”, but - to the “frozen account” and to the Bank of Russia tongue . Maybe through ohriniliard years "unfreeze wassat laughing
            2. Dashout
              Dashout 1 May 2018 20: 34
              +2
              Quote: Inok10
              ... there you can still "yaponozadnyh" put on pipe gas through the Tsushima Strait ... 200 km. all ... and all is well ...

              If Korea, and then Japan is planted on our pipe, then the striped ones will burst with anger ... wink
      2. Corporal Pupkin
        Corporal Pupkin 1 May 2018 13: 01
        +2
        NOT....
        here it is in the "account"
        PM103:71
        it would seem "not entirely in our favor", HOWEVER ...
        "the fight was exciting and quite productive!"
    2. Alex777
      Alex777 1 May 2018 09: 18
      +1
      Will buy planes. There is nowhere to go. hi
    3. Normal ok
      Normal ok 1 May 2018 09: 34
      +13
      Quote: the most important
      And shell in addition to it !! And if Pakistan also buys airplanes ... then our defense industry will have many billions of happiness! And the main thing is that without 10 aircraft carriers of India you can’t live! It's time ... it's time to offer them more and aircraft carriers!

      Well, firstly, Pakistan buys airplanes from China (an article on VO about buying Su-shek is a pure fake). And secondly, I’m interested in watching how pseudo-patriots, depending on the tone of the article, change their mind wassat Either Turkey is being smashed, or Turkey is friends, Either China is a brother forever, then China is full g, then India is our partner, then India is “corrupt”.
      You already decide that the head does not burst. Oruel dries up with his "doublethink," then the "fourth thought."
      1. Graz
        Graz 1 May 2018 09: 43
        +9
        Alexander the Third in my opinion said everything
        -Russia has only two allies - the army and the navy
        Palmerston said
        -England has no eternal allies and constant enemies - its interests are eternal and constant,
        Here are 2 rules for you (the second is also true for us)
        1. masterovoy
          masterovoy 1 May 2018 11: 08
          +8
          I believe that these words serve as the basis for the politics of all states of the world since ancient times.
        2. UAZ 452
          UAZ 452 1 May 2018 12: 08
          +5
          Alexander the Third in my opinion said everything
          -Russia has only two allies - the army and the navy
          Palmerston said
          -England has no eternal allies and constant enemies - its interests are eternal and constant,
          Here are 2 rules for you (the second is also true for us)

          The Englishman was wiser. And Alexander III (and many other rulers of Russia) would be nice to learn from the British how to save the lives of their soldiers and the bins of their budget, pitting enemies among themselves before using their own army and navy.
          1. Normal ok
            Normal ok 1 May 2018 15: 36
            +1
            Quote: UAZ 452
            Alexander the Third in my opinion said everything
            -Russia has only two allies - the army and the navy
            Palmerston said
            -England has no eternal allies and constant enemies - its interests are eternal and constant,
            Here are 2 rules for you (the second is also true for us)

            The Englishman was wiser. And Alexander III (and many other rulers of Russia) would be nice to learn from the British how to save the lives of their soldiers and the bins of their budget, pitting enemies among themselves before using their own army and navy.

            I applaud while standing, as at a party meeting
      2. himRa
        himRa 1 May 2018 09: 46
        +6
        Quote: Normal ok
        You already decide that the head does not burst

        Determined: with the answer to this question to Emperor Alexander ...
        And about two and four thoughts ... a bit poor as it is on the computer ...
        the human brain is capable of more ...
        Adnaka depends on the place of residence ... this does not apply to Ukrainians lol tongue
        1. Normal ok
          Normal ok 1 May 2018 15: 38
          0
          Quote: himRa
          Quote: Normal ok
          You already decide that the head does not burst

          Determined: with the answer to this question to Emperor Alexander ...
          And about two and four thoughts ... a bit poor as it is on the computer ...
          the human brain is capable of more ...
          Adnaka depends on the place of residence ... this does not apply to Ukrainians lol tongue

          Boy, you're inadequate along the way. In general, what I wrote about acts.
          1. himRa
            himRa 1 May 2018 17: 19
            +3
            Just trying to help ... so that my head doesn’t burst wassat and I can’t imagine the VO forum without such a valuable frame ..
            your namesake and part-time president is adequate here are all the claims to him ...
      3. the most important
        the most important 1 May 2018 10: 01
        +1
        Quote: Normal ok
        I’m interested to see how pseudo-patriots, depending on the tone of the article, change their minds First to smash Turkey, then to be friends with Turkey, Now China is a brother forever, then China is complete g, then India is our partner, then India is “corrupt”.
        You already decide that the head does not burst. Oruel dries up with his "doublethink," then the "fourth thought."

        If you write to me, then start referring to the source, I NEVER scream URYAYAAYA! in. I have a constant opinion that Turkey and China are not friends of Russia at all. And if possible, they will make the “big kaku” of Russia. But India ... looks like a teenage girl, she wants something, but she cannot understand what she needs. India is a forced ally for Russia.
        1. Normal ok
          Normal ok 1 May 2018 15: 44
          0
          Quote: the most important
          If you write to me, then start referring to the source, I NEVER scream URYAYAAYA! in. I have a constant opinion that Turkey and China are not friends of Russia at all. And if possible, they will make the “big kaku” of Russia. But India ... looks like a teenage girl, she wants something, but she cannot understand what she needs. India is a forced ally for Russia.

          I did not write to you, but I will answer. Have you ever heard of the Institute for the Middle East? So, there are real specialists on the topic. And they must work out an agenda. I personally know two. Or maybe they work, not Mikhan?
        2. Mih1974
          Mih1974 1 May 2018 17: 42
          +1
          And let's take a look at the core of the essence of "Russia's desires." What Russia, as a Country "may want, since there can be no allies from the above quotations, then there would be PEACE around Russia. good To contribute more to the world of "complete disarmament" or "military balance," the answer is even more obvious - "military balance." Because with "unarmedness" things can go to the "fists" and simply the population will become important. Whereas the presence of good air defense in both countries (for example, India, Pakistan or China) makes their generals more or less prudent. Here is the best example of Israel / Iran, some loudly "promise" to destroy others, in response "others" bomb while there is no (there was) decent air defense. As soon as the S-300 appeared (well, sort of) in Iran, the Yevrea almost immediately withdrew from the public the promise “to bomb what we see fit,” and they started talking “to bomb, even harder,” which translates to “we certainly could, but it’s very dumb and we’ll only scare it. " Therefore, while Russia is selling its Protection systems to its neighbors, this is to the benefit of Russia itself because it is a prerequisite on its borders.
          Now “they can become our enemies at once”, it’s still simpler and not connected with arms deliveries at all, you NEED to be strong yourself and not ruin the country as you did foolishly in 90 negative . As long as Russia has a clear Willpower (even in the person of the head), the neighbors can "be our enemies" as much as they like, this will not in any way threaten us. Yes, yes, I’m all about the same, pro-nuclear weapons. For in any nuclear war we have "where to sleep", but any of our adversaries will be able to "retreat" only beyond their borders am tongue , more "inside" will be a full "fallout".
      4. Bad_santa
        Bad_santa 1 May 2018 11: 11
        +3
        So that such a mess was not in the head, you need to start all thoughts with the economy. Is it profitable for us? Is it profitable to be friends with China? Definitely not. Thanks to the WTO, Chinese goods are ruining our economy. Entire plants go bankrupt every day. But this is not customary in our media to talk about. So far, the entire GDP policy is built on the destruction of the Russian economy. When single-industry towns are bent and jobs are reduced, you need not to kick the economic bloc, but remember who you voted for and which path you chose
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 1 May 2018 11: 40
          +4
          List of ruined single-industry towns where? Or factories that "go bankrupt every day."
          Or do the Zagrudin residents have nothing besides slogans?
          1. Bad_santa
            Bad_santa 1 May 2018 12: 22
            +1
            I won’t go far. I am from Omsk. I’ll take Omsk as an example. We had built a factory for the production of polypropylene Polyom. Somewhere 1/3 of all polypropylene produced in Russia. Now, through the courts, his fate is being decided - will they go bankrupt or not. And by the way, it enters into one structure with Omsk rubber. And his share in production is even higher. I would not want the Rubber to fall apart after Polyom.
            P.S. Both enterprises are part of the Titan group of companies, registered in offshore. If Russia is the only country in the world where 95% of all large companies are registered offshore. And you can continue to shout about the sovereignty and nationalization of the central bank. Putin’s HPP, however, to withdraw all large companies abroad
            1. Mih1974
              Mih1974 1 May 2018 17: 44
              +2
              "balabol" (censorship adaptation) you are my friend
              Poliom plant is among the best Omsk employers

              27 April 2018
              The Omsk Polypropylene Plant (a joint venture of Gazprom Neft, SIBUR and GC Titan) took part in the first stage of the regional contest "Best Employer of the Year in the Omsk Region" and entered the top three winners among enterprises of the Soviet Administrative District.

              The plant took the III place in the nominations “Development of personnel potential” and “Improving the conditions and labor protection in the manufacturing sector” in 2017. Applications for participation in the district stage were submitted by the leading petrochemical, infrastructure and repair enterprises of the Soviet District.

              The contest “Best Employer of the Year in the Omsk Region” has been held by the regional Ministry of Labor and Social Development in conjunction with the Main Department of the State Employment Service of the Omsk Region since 2014.

              Recall that at Poliom 400 jobs were created. The plant is one of the largest taxpayers in the Omsk region in the federal and regional budgets.

              The company creates the conditions necessary for efficient work and self-realization for staff. This is a decent level of salary, bonuses, one-time payments. The plant has a provision on benefits and guarantees for employees, including compensation for food costs, the VHI program, delivery to work by official transport, financial assistance in difficult life situations, etc. Since 2018, compensation has been made for the stay of children of workers in health camps. Various training programs are being implemented for workers and managers; in 2017, more than 50 people were trained.

              The company carries out activities aimed at supporting a healthy lifestyle. Employees of the Omsk polypropylene plant are active participants in the comprehensive Spartakiad of the Titan Group of Companies, their own football team has also been formed at Poliom, and competitions for various sports are being held for the professional holiday of Chemist Day. In addition, the company's employees support volunteer activities, participate in all corporate events organized by the Titan Group of Companies. This is a contest of children's creativity “We are growing!”, An exhibition “Do it yourself”, a corporate cup of KVN “Titans of Humor” and others.

              Nowhere to see bankruptcy reports. By the way, for some reason, it is generally accepted that bankruptcy is "demolition under the foundation." Often, instead of just "defective managers", just good owners come who pay white salaries and taxes and cooperate with the local administration (well, there’s all kinds of social programs).
            2. plotnikov561956
              plotnikov561956 5 May 2018 16: 15
              0
              Putinoids do not make sense to tell the truth ...
        2. Bad_santa
          Bad_santa 1 May 2018 12: 48
          +1
          We need to protect our own economy, and this is hindered by the tight framework of the WTO. There will be a strong economy, there will be money for weapons. Many components have to be bought abroad, because we either do not manufacture them or their price bites. It is impossible now to build modern weapons if it does not stand on a powerful economy. We cannot supply the same aircraft in the proper quantity to our aircraft due to the lack of capacities and facilities. For some reason, we are forced to extinguish fires, and there was no exact and verified foreign policy as there was no. The notorious confrontation with the West does not count. It only undermines us. It was necessary to direct all the aggression of the West to China, and earn money on this. And now it is exactly the opposite
          1. Mih1974
            Mih1974 1 May 2018 18: 00
            +2
            The answer is simple - "only mass executions will save Germany." Until those who are now in power and "economic power" and begin to perceive Russia as their homeland will not replace or "change their minds"! don't change anything. Then instead of palaces and offshore accounts there will be - houses and roads in Russia, for it will want to drive along good roads and will "cut hands" for those who will steal at the lower level.
            Actually, this alone distinguishes US from the West, it is precisely the Higher that “force” the Lower to abide by the law, norms, and standards. Thus, destroying two goals at once: a) the "love" of the people, b) a normal life for themselves.
            For while in Russia the leaders of the "road companies" will swear but pay for frequent car repairs and amuse themselves with the thought "if I hadn’t stole it for repair, I would have walked", we will have bad roads, corrupt officials, giving citizenship to everyone except real Russian emigrants, "milking palms", etc.
            To the simple question “what to do?”, The answer is just as simple - start being a good person from yourself, NEVER throw trash on the street, take or give a bribe (whatever is at stake), be polite and attentive, help the “fallen” gratis and leave before he has time to thank you. good For those who say, “this is for suckers,” your position is the position of “come along” who, if they do not “change under strict rules,” but continue to live as in their “villages,” they either destroy where they came for a “beautiful life” "or them - under the back of the knee" back to the villages. "
      5. Paul zewike
        Paul zewike 1 May 2018 11: 46
        +2
        Nepsedonopathy? It is necessary to be friends with Turkey, and if necessary, to defeat. China is a brother, but shitty (as often happens). India is our sales partner. Where there are four thoughts.
        Only in non-pseudo-liberating.
      6. Kurare
        Kurare 1 May 2018 13: 53
        +6
        Quote: Normal ok
        Either Turkey is being smashed, or Turkey is friends, Either China is a brother forever, then China is full g, then India is our partner, then India is “corrupt”.

        - Thunder Turkey, but receive dividends from them from the sale of S-400, South Stream, nuclear power plants, etc.
        - China is a brother forever and let your g ... keep with him, but buys only ours.
        - Selling India - so let it be sold only to us.

        Nothing personal just business! And believe me, in this world there will always be those who decide to sow the seeds of discord between Russia and the country "X". Then they will be the first to start trading and establishing relations with this “X” country.

        There are no good or bad countries. There are unequivocal enemies, but there are those with whom one can and should have a pragmatic relationship. Friends, as in life, only on the fingers of one hand can be counted.
    4. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 1 May 2018 09: 38
      +1
      then it will stretch out for a couple of hundred years ... if there’s some kind of .... MRK for 2-3 years, then the aircraft carrier ....
    5. Nick
      Nick 1 May 2018 11: 39
      +1
      Quote: the most important
      It's time ... it's time to offer them more aircraft carriers!

      Well so, in the presence of free production capacities why not? Why ernichat then?
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 1 May 2018 09: 14
    +5
    Chineses against the Indians. And everyone will be happy bully What am I talking about belay So escaped by accident repeat
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 1 May 2018 09: 16
      +2
      Hi, hello! hi
      The Pioneer publishes an article that talks about India acquiring five S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems

      I am predicting a new series of brainstorming from India. yes
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 1 May 2018 09: 20
        +2
        bouncyhunter pasha hi
        Predicting a new series of brainwash from India
        An ideal scenario. If only our brothers, as always, are tearful about world peace, and all the people don’t sing. Ours can. And so trade both weapons. And let them do what they want with each other.
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 1 May 2018 09: 23
        +7
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        I am predicting a new series of brainstorming from India.


        they will vomit, they will receive an adapted version for India ... such as this ..

        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 1 May 2018 09: 25
          +2
          Quote: vorobey
          will vomit

          There will be no doubt! They can not without Bollywood dancing and brain removal. yes
      3. Hire
        Hire 1 May 2018 09: 44
        +5
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        I am predicting a new series of brainstorming from India.

        Good morning, Pasha hi
        Where without it. smile
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 1 May 2018 09: 47
          +3
          Hello Victor ! hi It will not be India if it buys the S-400 without hassle. yes
    2. Alex777
      Alex777 1 May 2018 09: 18
      +1
      Sometimes it's better to chew than write. hi
    3. Hire
      Hire 1 May 2018 09: 23
      +5
      Quote: Observer2014
      Chineses against the Indians. And everyone will be happy

      God forbid! Mahach 1,5 billion to 1,5 billion happiness will not bring anyone. Can you imagine how many refugees will trample and where they will trample?
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 1 May 2018 09: 31
        +4
        Quote: Hire
        Quote: Observer2014
        Chineses against the Indians. And everyone will be happy

        God forbid! Mahach 1,5 billion to 1,5 billion happiness will not bring anyone. Can you imagine how many refugees will trample and where they will trample?


        Merkel said ... she will accept everyone ... repeat Yes, and the Baltic states need to be populated by someone .. otherwise, besides the British soldiers, there are no people left there either ..
        1. Hire
          Hire 1 May 2018 09: 43
          +8
          Good morning Alexander hi
          Quote: vorobey
          Merkel said ... she will accept everyone ...

          smile My grandmother did not know that Sergei was going to pit India and China. laughing
    4. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 1 May 2018 09: 34
      +3
      No, you don’t need to bleed anyone - this is not our method ...
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 1 May 2018 09: 38
        +4
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        No, you don’t need to bleed anyone - this is not our method ...

    5. NEXUS
      NEXUS 1 May 2018 09: 38
      +4
      Quote: Observer2014
      Chinese with Indians

      Well, yes, what are you talking about? Bleed two nuclear powers. Cleverly.
      Quote: bouncyhunter
      I am predicting a new series of brainstorming from India.

      There will be no brainwashing, Pasha. Nobody will transfer technology to the Indians, and they understand this. And therefore they will buy it in silence. But 5 complexes, this is only the beginning.
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 1 May 2018 09: 42
        +2
        Andrei hi
        Quote: NEXUS
        Nobody will transfer technology to the Indians, and they understand this. And therefore they will buy it in silence. But 5 complexes, this is only the beginning.

        If you were right in your prediction, not me. yes But I have no faith that the Indians and suddenly "buy in silence", given their past tricks.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 1 May 2018 09: 46
          +1
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          If you were right in your prediction, not me. But I have no faith that the Indians and suddenly "buy in silence", given their past tricks.

          Pakistan will not wait for the Indians, as well as the Chinese. Indians will not buy, Pakistan or China will buy, and who will lose as a result? Hindus are now in no position to bargain.
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 1 May 2018 09: 53
            +2
            Quote: NEXUS
            Hindus are now in no position to bargain.

            That's right, but where to put the habit? Habit is second nature. wink
    6. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 1 May 2018 09: 39
      +1
      they certainly won’t be happy ... when they start throwing nuclear poop
    7. Bully
      Bully 1 May 2018 10: 35
      +1
      Quote: Observer2014
      Chineses against the Indians. And everyone will be happy bully What am I talking about belay So escaped by accident repeat

      In no case! The resource base of these states with skillful management from the outside will help to destroy the potential of the United States. Helping them develop a naval component
      it is possible to force the United States out of the Indian and most parts of the Pacific Ocean.
    8. Nick
      Nick 1 May 2018 11: 44
      +1
      Quote: Observer2014
      Chineses against the Indians. And everyone will be happy bully What am I talking about belay So escaped by accident repeat

      Two nuclear powers with a population of half the world's population bleed ?! belay Kirdyk will be clear for everyone. If this is happiness for you, then you have to treat your head, dear fool hi
  3. An60
    An60 1 May 2018 09: 16
    +1
    That's how you need to breed Indians! It should be hinted that China is buying MiGs ... 1000 aircraft.
    1. Nick
      Nick 1 May 2018 11: 48
      +1
      Quote: An60
      That's how you need to breed Indians! It should be hinted that China is buying MiGs ... 1000 aircraft.

      You will be surprised, but Indians, in addition to posts on VO, have other sources of information bully hi
      1. An60
        An60 3 May 2018 14: 12
        0
        For you it is noticeable. good
  4. Altona
    Altona 1 May 2018 09: 16
    +4
    The tender commission danced and sang for 40 years, until the great Shiva said: “Stop suffering garbage, decide already for something!” laughing laughing
  5. vladfill
    vladfill 1 May 2018 09: 17
    +1
    Gypsies - the same people as magpies - they drag everything that glitters into the nest ....
    1. Nick
      Nick 1 May 2018 11: 50
      0
      Quote: vladfill
      Gypsies - the same people as magpies - they drag everything that glitters into the nest ....

      Gypsies, just one of the many castes of India, also lower.
  6. Vita vko
    Vita vko 1 May 2018 09: 17
    +1
    At the same time, India no longer declares its desire to receive a full set of technologies, because in this case the Russian manufacturer is unlikely to do this
    Under contracts with China and Turkey, the problems of technology transfer have already been worked out. There should be no problems unless of course the Indians themselves create them.
  7. svp67
    svp67 1 May 2018 09: 17
    +2
    The Pioneer publication publishes an article that says that India will acquire five S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems from Russia
    FIVE complexes, is that not even a division? Why exactly FIVE? For tests? Attempts to understand whether India needs them at all?
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 1 May 2018 09: 46
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      FIVE complexes, is that not even a division? Why exactly FIVE?

      The S-400 complex is this division. More precisely, its minimum component, as it can be strengthened by Levers, Sky, Carapace and other goodies for the adversary
      1. svp67
        svp67 1 May 2018 10: 33
        0
        Quote: Tusv
        The S-400 complex is this division.

        Did you come up with this yourself or is this the exact information?
        Quote: Tusv
        More precisely, its minimum component, as it can be strengthened by Levers, Sky, Carapace and other goodies for the adversary

        These "goodies" are part of a single air defense system, but they are from different units, as they solve problems at different borders ...
        In general, what we managed to dig up was that one S-400 divisional set (full) - 12 launchers, 4 rockets per installation, i.e. 4 * 12 = 48 missiles.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 1 May 2018 11: 43
          +2
          Quote: svp67
          Did you come up with this yourself or is this the exact information?

          So We are paramilitary, but no one will tell you the exact Old.
          These "goodies" are part of a single air defense system, but they are from different units, as they solve problems at different borders ...

          There is one task. Avoid air attacks and tasks of various units are collinear. For example, an electronic warfare can also land as well as an air defense system. Flyers can also give target designation and drop targets, etc.
          In general, what we managed to dig up was that one S-400 divisional set (full) - 12 launchers, 4 rockets per installation, i.e. 4 * 12 = 48 missiles.

          The modern air defense system is not only launchers, there are both electronic warfare and RTS
  8. Wendigo
    Wendigo 1 May 2018 09: 17
    +1
    There are no confirmations about the purchase, these are all rumors.
    And in general, I strongly doubt that they will ever take it at all.
    Thanks to Syria for the "advertising."
    no matter what fairy tales the MO tells, they know how many missiles were actually shot down and shot down at all.
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 1 May 2018 09: 24
      +11
      Quote: Wendigo
      Thanks to Syria for the "advertising."
      no matter what fairy tales the MO tells, they know how many missiles were actually shot down and shot down at all.

      A storyteller, but the “Triumph” in Syria even shot? Or was there an attack on Khmeimim? How I love these tales. laughing
      1. Wendigo
        Wendigo 1 May 2018 09: 38
        +2
        Quote: vovanpain
        Storyteller, and the "Triumph" in Syria even shot?

        Why shoot from Triumph? It is expensive! MO won perfectly at a briefing shot, shot down almost all the missiles and took a couple with him.
        In general, such an MO can be dispensed with without iron launchers; not a single enemy missile will break through the MO briefinghi
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 1 May 2018 11: 44
          0
          Something familiar arrogantly cynical smelled.
          Do you have the letter "p" on the keyboard to the west, "Andrey"?
      2. himRa
        himRa 1 May 2018 09: 39
        +6
        Quote: vovanpain
        How I love these tales.

        With a holiday! My friend
        Wendigo you're not even an indigo
        but .... you have to personally report to the MO
        ... maybe ..... ,, voices ,,? belay more accurately we do not want to lose you! wink
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 1 May 2018 09: 46
          +7
          Quote: himRa
          Happy holiday! My friend

          Happy Birthday to Raheem!
          Quote: himRa
          Wendigo you're not even an indigo

          C'mon Rahim, all sorts of opinions are needed, although this is reincarnation. drinks
          Quote: Wendigo
          Why shoot from Triumph? It is expensive!

          Right it's expensive yes Here for this, and Syrian air defense is. laughing Old, dull but your vaunted axes still drops. laughing
          Quote: Wendigo
          In general, such an MO can be dispensed with with iron launchers; not a single enemy missile will break through the MO briefing

          Of course not break through laughing Do you have air defense for this? Or just slogans. hi
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 1 May 2018 13: 48
            0
            Quote: vovanpain
            Do you know what air defense is? Or just slogans.

            E. Brother. I don’t know what the Paramilitary is capable of. For example, to show a movie in a drawer without any satellites and without broadcasting easily. Own Relay hi
      3. vorobey
        vorobey 1 May 2018 09: 41
        +7
        Quote: vovanpain
        Quote: Wendigo
        Thanks to Syria for the "advertising."
        no matter what fairy tales the MO tells, they know how many missiles were actually shot down and shot down at all.

        A storyteller, but the “Triumph” in Syria even shot? Or was there an attack on Khmeimim? How I love these tales. laughing


        I’ve said more than once .. I’ll repeat it .. Trump screwed up here too .. according to an agreement, he had to advertise a triumph but advertised the Armor and Torah ..
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 1 May 2018 09: 52
          +9
          Quote: vorobey
          ramp and here nakosyachil .. according to the agreement, he had to advertise a triumph and advertised the Armor and Torah

          Sanya drinks hi All the same, I think it’s time for Colonel Danila Trumpov to give the colonel, otherwise God forbid that Yarsa and Voevoda begin to advertise. hi
      4. Tusv
        Tusv 1 May 2018 10: 24
        +5
        Quote: vovanpain
        A storyteller, did Triumph shoot in Syria? Or was there an attack on Khmeimim? How I love these tales

        Who knows the namesake. Something accident in Arizona suddenly a lot. has become. They will not be told about this at any briefing. We do not have them. By the way, they may have blundered at the rate of Rafaley and Tornado, which thwarted a more massive attack, because the British and the French seemed to work out a little liquid. Again target designation for Syrian air defense. So four hundred is fighting qualitatively hi
    2. Awaz
      Awaz 1 May 2018 09: 40
      +5
      the fact that at least one missile was shot down was even shown on American TV. right now, the video must have been wiped already, but then they drove it with a fool.
      1. Wendigo
        Wendigo 1 May 2018 11: 47
        +1
        I have never seen anywhere, although Fox, for example, is constantly watching.
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 1 May 2018 12: 15
          +2
          Quote: Wendigo
          Never seen anywhere

          Banned in YouTube?
          1. Wendigo
            Wendigo 1 May 2018 12: 44
            +1
            Quote: dvina71
            Banned in YouTube?

            I don’t know what they "shot down" there and when this video was shot, but the height is clearly high for the axes. Do you even know at what height the axes creep up (hint) to the target?
            Let's say they shot down a rocket from an airplane ... but the Americans claim that the Syrians continued to shoot rockets into the air even after the coalition attack ended.
            Obviously, the objectives of these missiles were already different .. propaganda.
            1. dvina71
              dvina71 1 May 2018 12: 49
              +3
              Quote: Wendigo
              Let's say they shot down a rocket from an airplane ... but the Americans claim that the Syrians continued to shoot rockets into the air even after the coalition attack ended.

              The Americans say a lot of things .. For example, that all 107 missiles fell for all three purposes .. On this occasion, I have a question .. do they have smoke powder in the warhead as an explosive? And then .. from a ton of such gunpowder, the destruction would be more ..
              1. Wendigo
                Wendigo 1 May 2018 14: 34
                0
                Quote: dvina71
                do they have smoke powder as explosives in the warhead?

                To begin with, the missiles were different. Or do you think that they also fired axes with planes? (By the way, axes also have different warheads, and they were obviously not the most powerful shots) Most importantly, satellite images were presented with three centers spaced apart in dust. There were clearly not three barracks, but entire complexes of buildings and apparently with underground infrastructure. From the satellite, they seem small hi
        2. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 1 May 2018 13: 44
          +3
          Quote: Wendigo
          Fox for example constantly watching.

          You can not continue further ... wassat
          1. Wendigo
            Wendigo 1 May 2018 14: 36
            0
            Quote: Paranoid50
            You can not continue further.

            To blame! It was necessary to watch rashatudey wassat
        3. Awaz
          Awaz 4 May 2018 16: 44
          0
          I also watched Fox at one time - the most bullshit resource. This is the last thing you can watch from the US media .. Andryukha, would not be dishonored eh?
    3. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 1 May 2018 10: 42
      +3
      Wendigo
      no matter what fairy tales the MO tells, they know how many missiles were actually shot down and shot down at all.
      Let me ask who the "they" who know are Indians? Another "Thomas unbeliever" showed up. Personally, the RF Ministry of Defense did not report who shot down how much. And the conclusions have already been made.
      1. Wendigo
        Wendigo 1 May 2018 11: 45
        +1
        Actually the rest of the world.
        Disinformation is one thing for the domestic consumer - another thing on the external so-called "market".
        They watch how they are being deceived by shot down missiles in Syria and draw conclusions, or maybe the performance characteristics from 400 and so on are greatly exaggerated ...? In fact, the MO shoots themselves in the leg. In my opinion, of course.
      2. Mestny
        Mestny 1 May 2018 11: 49
        +1
        This is the "son of a Russian officer."
  9. painter
    painter 1 May 2018 09: 19
    +2
    Gypsies a noisy crowd, went Delhi and bought but of course the cropped version 400
  10. GLAVPUR
    GLAVPUR 1 May 2018 09: 21
    +1
    India made the final decision on the acquisition of the S-400 from Russia after the PLA introduced Beijing with these anti-aircraft missile systems.

    You have to act like that .. It's a defense weapon, so everything is fine! Russia needs money for new systems ..
  11. dojjdik
    dojjdik 1 May 2018 09: 22
    +1
    Jews are trying to convince us that there are serious disagreements between China and India, but with Pakistan there is a border current; India's air defense system is protection primarily against American axes and airplanes that will take off from aircraft carriers-5
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 1 May 2018 11: 50
      -1
      All that they are trying to inspire us is a lie from the first to the last word.
      Their messages should be understood only in view of their extreme Russophobia and misanthropy as a whole.
  12. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 1 May 2018 09: 24
    +1
    When time is running out, it is not up to the trade. If there is no protection against an air attack, no army can stand it! And the Indians understand this laughing
  13. shalim
    shalim 1 May 2018 10: 11
    +1
    DIRECT GOOD NEWS ...
  14. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 1 May 2018 10: 36
    +1
    India is a walking joke about a lazy cat who lay down on his faberge!
  15. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 1 May 2018 11: 06
    +1
    Why China bought several C-400 complexes is understandable. Copy.
    How much will India buy in total?
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 1 May 2018 15: 11
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Copy

      They still can not copy the aircraft engine .. produce ersatz. Copying the S-400 is not realistic at all .. Starting from the fact that all the boards are monolithic there, you won’t understand them. So the most responsible ones will self-destruct if they are seized unauthorized. Total .. they can copy the pipes of missiles, pipes pu ... and what else ...
  16. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 1 May 2018 11: 11
    0
    Quote: Hire
    Can you imagine how many refugees will trample and where they will trample?

    Chinese 500 million refugees will settle in Moscow ... Indian 500 million will flee to Europe, accidentally trampling Turkey.
  17. cradle
    cradle 1 May 2018 11: 52
    0
    Quote: Paul Zewike
    Nepsedonopathy? It is necessary to be friends with Turkey, and if necessary, to defeat. China is a brother, but shitty (as often happens). India is our sales partner. Where there are four thoughts.
    Only in non-pseudo-liberating.

    You don’t understand ... there is no point in straining - the previous comrades tried, but failed ... keep thinking the same ...
  18. cradle
    cradle 1 May 2018 11: 54
    +1
    Quote: himRa
    Quote: vovanpain
    How I love these tales.

    With a holiday! My friend
    Wendigo you're not even an indigo
    but .... you have to personally report to the MO
    ... maybe ..... ,, voices ,,? belay more accurately we do not want to lose you! wink

    Why so? The squad will not notice the loss of a fighter.
  19. Old26
    Old26 1 May 2018 22: 01
    0
    [quote = svp67] Did you come up with this yourself or is this the exact information?
    Generally Tusv right Complex = Division. Here the amount of PU can vary (why - I do not know) and reach up to 12 PU
  20. gippernano
    gippernano 2 May 2018 05: 02
    +1
    They have their own UKROBORONPROM, which they won’t do, then it’s a child prodigy. Neither the gate nor the Hindu army, as we used to say in other words.
  21. Borders
    Borders 2 May 2018 12: 26
    0
    God forbid money will be paid, not palm oil ...