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For the first time, but not the last. "Ilya Muromets" made a submarine wiring through the Arctic ice

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The latest icebreaker Ilya Muromets, as part of the ice tests, completed the first piloting of the Yuri Dolgoruky nuclear submarine, according to a press release from Severny fleet.


For the first time, but not the last. "Ilya Muromets" made a submarine wiring through the Arctic ice


Successfully completing work in the area of ​​the Kara Gates, the crew of the vessel made the transition to the throat of the White Sea, where it took to escort the strategic submarine cruiser "Yuri Dolgoruky
- said the head of the press service of the Northern Fleet Vadim Serga.

He noted that the thickness of ice on the shipping fairways in the White Sea is now about 40 centimeters. The independent movement of non-ice-class vessels in such conditions becomes impossible.

Icebreaker "Ilya Muromets" was the first to pave the way in the ice. The cruiser was also provided by the Ruslan icebreaker of the White Sea Naval Base and the sea tug. Today, a detachment of ships arrived in Severodvinsk
- added the head of the press service of the Federation Council.

In mid-April, the newest icebreaker Ilya Muromets began ice testing in the eastern part of the Barents Sea.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS April 28 2018 17: 05
    +4
    And here is the decoding of the term icebreaker for dual use. The main thing is that mattresses should not be picked out from the ice.
    1. Lavrenti Pavlovich
      Lavrenti Pavlovich April 28 2018 17: 08
      +7
      Why is ice breaking for a submarine? The submarine and dive under the ice can.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 28 2018 17: 09
        +8
        Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
        Why is ice breaking for a submarine? The submarine and dive under the ice can.

        You ask the mattresses who cut their submarines with chainsaws from the ice.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter April 28 2018 17: 18
          +4
          Andrei hi After such news, the mattresses left to smoke, swearing in an undertone (in Russian). lol
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS April 28 2018 17: 19
            +4
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Andrei

            pasha hi
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            After such news, the mattresses left to smoke, swearing in an undertone (in Russian)

            No ... they will release a new Marvel series about the exploits of Superman and Iron Man.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter April 28 2018 17: 21
              +4
              Quote: NEXUS
              Marvel will release a new series about the exploits of Superman and Iron Man

              With the words: "How can we answer Russia ..." yes
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS April 28 2018 17: 23
                +7
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                With the words: "How can we answer Russia ..."

                I’ll answer you like this, but I’ll remind you of the video where our submariners swim in the northern latitudes ...
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter April 28 2018 17: 34
                  +5
                  Thank you very much for the video, the memories flooded !!! good drinks
                  Z.Y. And I drank tap water as a child, and now I drink ...
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS April 28 2018 17: 43
                    +4
                    Quote: bouncyhunter
                    Thanks a lot for the video


                    With the comments of foreigners.
                    1. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter April 28 2018 17: 51
                      +4
                      It is especially informative that the comments are mainly from eastern people (judging by the nicknames). Zapadentsev just nervously smoke on the sidelines. lol
        2. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 April 28 2018 18: 06
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          You ask the mattresses

          well enough for you ..... it was a fake ....
        3. Lavrenti Pavlovich
          Lavrenti Pavlovich April 28 2018 18: 18
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
          Why is ice breaking for a submarine? The submarine and dive under the ice can.

          You ask the mattresses who cut their submarines with chainsaws from the ice.

          So it’s “exceptional.” They can still declare war and sanctions on the ice of the Arctic for abandoning democracy and "attacking" from a boat carrying "peace."
        4. ZVO
          ZVO 2 May 2018 23: 04
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
          Why is ice breaking for a submarine? The submarine and dive under the ice can.

          You ask the mattresses who cut their submarines with chainsaws from the ice.

          well
          firstly, you confuse the ice squeezing of a floating boat that has stood in the surface condition for more than a day.
          и
          secondly - SSBN wiring, which is required to go under the ice. because she has a patrol zone - there ....

          There is a substitution of concepts.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA April 28 2018 17: 10
        +7
        Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
        He noted that the thickness of ice on the shipping fairways in the White Sea is now about 40 centimeters. The independent movement of non-ice-class vessels in such conditions becomes impossible.

        We read carefully:
        He noted that the thickness of the ice on shipping fairways in the White Sea is now about 40 centimeters.

        In the White Sea, the average depth is 67 meters. And it’s just "morgue average"- a hollow in the central-western part + shallow water in the north and south.

        Anyway, going underwater along the fairway is a direct route to the Swedish Komsomol. smile
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker April 28 2018 17: 22
          +4
          The problem is that in the throat of the White Sea the speed of tidal currents can reach 3-4 knots. Going underwater by reckoning in such conditions without observations is very dangerous, because the depths for the RPNS are clearly insufficient.
          Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
          Why is ice breaking for a submarine? The submarine and dive under the ice can.

          KannEchna ... Dived somewhere in the Gadzhievo, and emerged at a given position ....
          1. ZVO
            ZVO 2 May 2018 23: 10
            0
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            The problem is that in the throat of the White Sea the speed of tidal currents can reach 3-4 knots. Going underwater by reckoning in such conditions without observations is very dangerous, because the depths for the RPNS are clearly insufficient.


            Sorry, I was not in the subfloor was my youth.
            But as far as I remember, back in the late 70s they solved the problem of underwater passage through the Bering Strait. where the Achtung lots and the current speed are greater.
            And almost between the Diomedes, our submarines walked under water. where "vaasche" ...
        2. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker April 28 2018 18: 05
          +4

          The highlight of the test section is highlighted in red.
          Blue is the throat of the White Sea.
          Gray - the proposed route from Severodvinsk to the Barents Sea.
        3. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa April 28 2018 18: 41
          +2
          Quote: Alexey RA
          going underwater along the fairway is a direct route to the Swedish Komsomol members.
          Submarine "S-363" climbed into the Swedish tervody in the water position, and where even the Swedes themselves never went! If not for the ebb ... figs the Swedes would have caught her in the "stone kilblock" ...
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 28 2018 19: 00
            +1
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            If not for the ebb ... figs the Swedes would have caught her in the "stone kilblock" ...

            Alexander....
            There is no ebb and flow, since the difference between PV and MV even in syzygy in the district of Stockholm archipelago does not exceed 0,5 m.
            It was a common mistake in observing the ENG commander. Not only did he incorrectly identify the lighthouse, which he took the bearing and the distance from, so there was a monstrous discrepancy around everything, about which this leiteha did not report to the commander ....
            hi
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa April 28 2018 19: 16
              +5
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              It was a common mistake in observing the ENG commander.

              Ilyich, I’m not just saying, I’m personally acquainted with those who rode around the Swedish hervods on it ... Then, all the observations are reported to the commander, SEC, to the one who carries the commander’s shift ... And if you are determined by the lights of a passing ship then 60 miles is an innocent joke ... not a miss ...
              As for the ebb / flow ... 0,5 m is very significantly under the keel ... when you sit on the rocks and start crawling to crawl from them ... So they put AB, and on the diesel - loudly ... in foreign guards .. .
              And they can’t take a steel cable to the lock - they can drag it away, “Our Green” ... And you can’t let anyone on board - especially in the 1 compartment, but you can’t “look” at the lower TAs, they are sealed with a wax seal ...
              However, this is the story of a non-existent country and its mighty Fleet ... bully
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker April 28 2018 19: 33
                +2
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                Ilyich, I’m not just saying, I’m personally acquainted with those who roamed about it on Swedish hervods ..

                Well ... The former GlavSturman of the KSF just arrived at the Navy. And he did not begin to spread much, but he also enlightened that trying to put a shadow on the wattle fence, the repeater GK was completely scratched.
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                As for the ebb / flow ... 0,5 m is very significant under the keel ... when you sit on the rocks and start crawling to crawl away from them ...

                Well ... I don’t know ... For civilian navigators, the minimum distance from the keel to the ground is set as half the draft of the vessel, taking into account the "subsidence" of the vessel on the move. In straits of the Zunda Canal type, the phenomenon of suction causes a noticeable vibration and trembling of the hull if the permissible speed during settlement is greater than 7,0 m.
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                And if determined by the lights of a passing ship, then 60 miles is an innocent joke ... and not a miss.

                So here the dog is buried. The lighthouse visibility range rarely exceeds 10-15 miles at water level, 20 miles at an altitude of 5-10 m above water level. The discrepancy in 60 miles at average speed in 10-12 nodes ... this is a jamb. And harsh. Even if the observation was made 4 hours before. Maybe for reckoning, incorrect data on the speed of the submarine by the revolutions of the screw were taken? Currents in the area of ​​the Aba-Aland archipelago are not a god news.
          2. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA April 28 2018 20: 29
            0
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            The S-363 submarine climbed into the Swedish tervodes in the water position, and where even the Swedes themselves never went!

            Your truth is my mistake. For some reason, it sank into the source of sclerosis that the submarine was under the periscope. But actually - yes, Whiskey on the rocks got out of the water.
      3. RASKAT
        RASKAT April 28 2018 17: 26
        +1
        An icebreaker is needed so that in the event of an accident on a boat, break through with ice-hole and let the rescue ship work. Well, in theory, of course. hi
      4. Piramidon
        Piramidon April 28 2018 17: 53
        +1
        Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
        Why is ice breaking for a submarine? The submarine and dive under the ice can.

        Perhaps there depth does not allow diving.
    2. Maz
      Maz April 29 2018 07: 13
      +1
      It is still unknown who drove anyone there: the icebreaker boat, or it was his darling.
      1. jjj
        jjj April 29 2018 11: 01
        0
        On the Northern Dvina - ice drift. From the water area of ​​Arkhangelsk from Savings to Bakaritsa, icebreakers have broken ice and launched into the White Sea. At Severodvinsk in Nikolsky Usty while the ice is standing.
        Boats can go underwater in the White Sea. But to the entrance to the BMVB through a shallow water - a yagra - a special channel is laid. At the receiving buoy, the boat is met either by a tugboat or an icebreaker. The boat goes along the channel only in the surface position. Now the White Sea and especially its throat are filled with broken ice, there is no continuous field
  2. Theodore
    Theodore April 28 2018 17: 05
    +3
    With the initiative of the hero!
  3. Bronevick
    Bronevick April 28 2018 17: 55
    +3
    The goals and objectives of the submarine please detailed route yet. I need to write a report for the Pentagon.
  4. andron-30
    andron-30 April 28 2018 19: 08
    0
    like this, with the help of icebreakers of this type, a submarine can come up and strike anywhere in the world, US bases and countries that provide them with territories ?????????????
    1. BVS
      BVS April 28 2018 20: 26
      0
      And of course, no one will see the icebreaker itself. And the submarine's stealth will be super!
  5. Disant
    Disant April 29 2018 22: 06
    +1
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    Thanks a lot for the video


    With the comments of foreigners.

    comment okay .... on video 1.45min it is clearly visible that the ice thickness is greater than the height of the letters of the name of the ship, well, or flush .. it smells from one and a half to two meters!