The second of the three. US Navy received Zumwalt type destroyer Michael Monsoor

The US Navy officially received the Zumwalt Michael Monsoor type destroyer, Warspot reports citing the website of the U.S. Navy Institute. Second ship the fleet transferred the company Bath Iron Works.

Michael Monsoor (DDG 1001) - the second in a series of three new-generation destroyers designed for the US Navy. The first of them - Zumwalt (DDG 1000) - was completed in December 2015 of the year and in May last year entered the disposal of the US Navy, passing sea trials. The third ship of the series - Lyndon B. Johnson (DDG 1002) - is in the final stages of construction.

The program to create a new generation of destroyers was launched in the US in the 90-s and has undergone many changes. It was originally planned to build a destroyer 32, then the program was gradually reduced to two ships, after which the US Department of Defense allocated funds for the construction of a third ship of this class. Americans consider Zumwalt-type ships experimental, on the basis of which a series of destroyers will be developed to replace the Arleigh Burke type.

USS Michael Monsoor is one of the largest and heaviest ships in its class. The destroyer length is 183 m, full displacement - 13 200 t. Basic armament includes 80 launchers for missiles, two artillery mounts and two anti-aircraft installations Mk. 110 caliber 57 mm.

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[Vitaly Anisimov]

Dear Iron .. Damn it!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: MIKHAN

Dear Iron .. Damn it!

If the weapon is good, no one is looking at the price. Because, in which case, it will justify itself.

[Topotun]

Yeah, they always look at the price. If only because drown this iron and the country's economy will receive a very serious kick. And to give him cover from the usual forces of the fleet ..... Could it be easier to build 6 pieces of simple missile frigates? The total power of a volley is not worse, and sinking 6 units is immediately more difficult than one .... And this is even if you are sitting on a printing press. Well, you can’t print without restriction. The economic icon will collapse.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Topotun

Yeah, they always look at the price. If only because drown this iron and the country's economy will receive a very serious kick. And to give him cover from the usual forces of the fleet ..... Could it be easier to build 6 pieces of simple missile frigates? The total power of a volley is not worse, and sinking 6 units is immediately more difficult than one .... And this is even if you are sitting on a printing press. Well, you can’t print without restriction. The economic icon will collapse.

Well, are you all worried about them? Dear boat, not expensive. We should not think about the price for Americans, but about the answer to this "miracle." That we can oppose it. Well, of course, that the answer was much cheaper.

[NIKNN]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Quote: MIKHAN

Dear Iron .. Damn it!

If the weapon is good, no one is looking at the price. Because, in which case, it will justify itself.

To be honest, I respect the risk ..., as planned, everything is fine, the boat has prospects (maybe not in this form, but a lot of it can be realized), but again, noodles ... well, I will be completely disappointed ...

[Trotil42]

Vital ... we are still the first here .. more than half of Russia's military budget has been sent to buy rotten assets of the Binbank’s Alegarchs .. Magnet .. Openings ... you haven’t bought anything or built anything ...

[astepanov]

Quote: MIKHAN

Dear Iron .. Damn it!

Why are you everywhere producing completely meaningless comments? For the sake of likes?

[vorobey]

so after all it seems they wrote that they recognized them as a rescue package for submarines from the Second World War.

but still rivet ..

[voyaka uh]

They were thought to be used as drummers on the shore because of
insufficient range of guns with conventional shells.
They think of making them a squadron to fight ships
the enemy. Like, first hollow the enemy RCC, and finish off - from the guns.

[vorobey]

Quote: voyaka uh

They were thought to be used as drummers on the shore because of
insufficient range of guns with conventional shells.

Lesha either I or skis wrong ..

I’m reading ... Basic armament includes 80 missile launchers, two artillery mounts and two Mk anti-aircraft mounts. 110 caliber 57 mm.



As costs increased many times, and the number of ships of this class dropped from 32 to just three, the widely publicized Advanced Gun System (AGS) artillery seemed to be useless, as the price of a 155 mm Long Range Land Attack Projectiles (LRLAP) shot up from dozens thousand dollars to at least 800 thousand dollars per unit. These dramatically increased costs prompted the Navy to abandon plans to purchase any additional LRLAP. Thus, in the foreseeable future, Zumwalt will not be able to rely on the use of its heavy-duty and extremely expensive guns, as promised.

With its current price of $ 800 thousand per shot, the LRLAP shell provides the same 11 kilograms of explosive as the 700-dollar M795 ammunition. Of course, LRLAP significantly surpasses it in range and accuracy, but at a price ahead of 1100 times. The Tomahawk cruise missile, carrying a 500-pound warhead and costing $ 1 million, provides about 30 times the payload of $ 1, and is 15 times ahead of LRLAP in range. If we also take into account the complex and bulky automatic stores of the new Advanced Gun System and the automated loading and unloading of ammunition, we get an unreliable system that provides truly tiny explosive power for every dollar invested.

Missionless warship

Zumwalt is a real disaster. It is clear that he is not suitable as a first-line ship. Given that his cannon is “castrated,” his role as the main asset of anti-submarine operations is in question, anti-aircraft combat qualities are inferior to the old workhorse, the destroyer of the Arleigh Burke class, and its protection from radars is far from advertising promises, it seems that Zumwalt is a ship without a task.

And if so, how will the Navy use Zumwalt? Eric Wertheim, author and editor of the book The American Naval Institute’s Guide to Combating the Various Fleets of the World, noted that “with only three ships, this class of destroyers could become something like a (exceptionally expensive) technology demonstration project. And he is not alone in his opinion.

[voyaka uh]

"It is clear that he is not suitable as a ship of the first line" ////

Where does this conclusion come from? He has 80 missile launch cells. The Americans began the release of their new generation RRC LRASM. This will be his first-line weapon in the fight against enemy squadrons. And his guns nevertheless are the most long-range in the world (although not as much as they wanted).

[CYM]

Quote: voyaka uh

This will be his first-line weapon in the fight against enemy squadrons.

IMHO Naval battle with enemy squadrons has not been relevant since the middle of the 20th century. Zumwalt was conceived as a representative of "diplomacy of destroyers": stealthily approached, hit targets on the shore, depending on the result, "demonstrated the flag" and technological superiority or quietly washed off. Well, it turned out to be too expensive for these purposes.

[Dart2027]

Quote: voyaka uh

He has 80 rocket launchers

Berks have 96 each. With much smaller sizes.

[Alex777]

The guns have already been abandoned. Shells in the cost of the Tomahawks came out.
They haven’t come up with a replacement yet. According to the plan, they were supposed to interact with littoral ships, but there was also a bummer. This year not a single littoral will achieve combat readiness. Epic Fail.

[sabakina]

Quote: voyaka uh

Like, first hollow the enemy RCC, and finish off - from the guns.

Oh, Lexey, you gave me a blessing to search YouTube on the topic of finishing ...

[Eduard petrov]

Stamped like sausages ... almost like us.

[impostor]

And what about the gun mounts? They wrote that it’s cheaper to shoot gold bars?

[vorobey]

Quote: impostor

And what about the gun mounts? They wrote that it’s cheaper to shoot gold bars?

scratching their reputation so far ... consider the difference .. castrated gun and shells at $ 800000 apiece or old-fashioned with shells at 700 bucks ..

[impostor]

They need to give a head massager

[KaPToC]

Quote: impostor

And what about the gun mounts?

Who cares? His main weapon is rockets.

[voyaka uh]

Build quickly, by the way. Soon all three will be ready.
Non-residential squadron.

[dzvero]

Non-residential squadron.

Yes, and if with tugs, it’s already pulling the fleet
It’s a joke to the side, but if again “petty unexpected people” like the prisoner go, then the degradation of production has already reached them.

[voyaka uh]

There is the opposite problem: too advanced production.
They do everything in a new way. But in terms of coped with a bang.

[dzvero]

Yes, in general, it will be truly advanced development in many areas. But engine building in the United States did not arise yesterday. Electrical manufacturing too. Apparently, after all, their production culture is slowly disappearing ...

[voyaka uh]

The English fleet has always had innovations. But there have always been assembly defects. Super-quality Angichans never suffered. Any leakage of oil seals, vibration - the disease of many large ships. Especially, built just a couple of copies, not massive.

[NEXUS]

Quote: voyaka uh

There is the opposite problem: too advanced production.

Yes, I partially agree. But, the use of plywood and wood in the production of the superstructure of this destroyer is not very similar to advanced technologies. Although it is clear that this is to facilitate the design. And in this regard, I have a question - what will happen to this add-in when a wave of a strong storm hits it?

[voyaka uh]

She is at a great height. The side is very high.

[NEXUS]

Quote: voyaka uh

She is at a great height. The side is very high.

No high side will save from the big wave. This destroyer will hang out in a big storm, like a sliver on the waves, and I doubt very much that the plywood will withstand the onslaught of waves in which there are more than one hundred tons of water.

[SlavaS]

US rivets boats, like baked pies!

[KaPToC]

Quote: SlavaS

US rivets boats, like baked pies!

Something "zumvolty" rivet very slowly.

[gig334]

And in Russia, a frigate of pots of about 7 years old is being built, if not more. About the destroyers and new cruisers generally keep quiet

[nPuBaTuP]

Quote: gig334

And in Russia, a frigate of pots of about 7 years old is being built

And how many miracles did they build?

The contract for the construction of the second USS ship, Michael Monsoor (DDG-1001), was signed on February 14, 2008 with General Dynamics Corporation in the amount of $ 1,4 billion. Assembly of blocks for the ship began in March 2010 at the Bath Iron Works shipyard in Bath, Maine. The keel laying ceremony was held on May 23, 2013. On June 18, 2016, a baptism ceremony was held at the shipyard.

And this is for you to simplify the calculations ...

[helmi8]

It was originally planned to build 32 destroyerthen the program was gradually reduced to two shipsafter which the US Department of Defense allocated funds for the construction of a third ship of this class.

Why? Can't stand the strongest economy? Or Fu-35 ate all the butterflies?

[vorobey]

Quote: helmi8

Why? Can't stand the strongest economy? Or Fu-35 ate all the butterflies?

so when they convince you that they will cost 1,4 lard, and as a result, with R&D it pulls under 7 lard ... then 40 planned lard will be enough for three destroyers and a banquet

[dzvero]

Yes, and the second and third are built so that Congress does not make out the instigators of the project for parts. Without them, Zamvolt would cost one as two fully equipped aircraft carriers (or one aircraft carrier warrant).

[voyaka uh]

We decided to check out an unusual concept first
before sculpting a large series.
And they did the right thing: there were all sorts of difficulties along the way.

[vorobey]

Quote: voyaka uh

We decided to check out an unusual concept first

Alexei ... be more serious .. 32 ships to test an unusual concept ... not sour ..

[voyaka uh]

32 - this was a planned series. 3 - experimental batch.
Each of the 3 Zumvolts will be used in different ways, with a different set of missiles and different escort ships. And various innovative weapons. And they will see what works and what is inefficient.

[Altona]

Quote: voyaka uh

They think of making them a squadron to fight ships
the enemy. Like, first hollow the enemy RCC, and finish off - from the guns.

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And why are Mansuras called? In Arabic "Winner". The name of the ship is Misha Mansour.

[san4es]

Quote: Altona

... And why is Mansouri called?

On June 18, 2016, a baptism ceremony was held at the shipyard. The ship was named USS "Michael Monsoor" (DDG-1001) in honor of the 2nd class foreman Michael A. Monsoor (1981–2006), who died during the Iraq war and was posthumously awarded the Order of Honor. The godmother was Sally Monsoor, the mother of the deceased sergeant Monsoor, who, according to maritime tradition, broke a bottle of champagne in the bow of the ship.

[CAT BAIYUN]

[quote] USS Michael Monsoor is one of the largest and heavily armed ships in its class [/ quot]
There is such an expression: To a large ship - a large torpedo.
I think that everything you need is already prepared for this iron.

[san4es]

Michael Monsoor (DDG 1001) - the second in a series of three new generation destroyers

Main characteristics of Zumwalt class destroyers: Full displacement of 14564 tons. Length 183 meters, width 24,6 meters, draft 8,4 meters. Speed ​​30 knots. The crew is 148 people.
Engines: 2 x Rolls-Royce Marine Trent-30 GTU. Power 78 MW.
Armament:
Radar weapons: AN / SPY-3.
Tactical strike weapons: 20 × UVK Mk.57 for 80 Tomahawk, ASROC or ESSM missiles.
Artillery: 2 × 155 mm AGS AU (920 rounds, of which 600 in automatic loaders).
Anti-aircraft artillery: 2 × 57 mm Mk. 110.
Missile weapons: RIM-162 ESSM.
Anti-submarine weapons: RUM-139 VL-Asroc.
Aviation group: 1 × helicopter SH-60 LAMPS, 3 × UAV MQ-8 Fire Sco.
The contract for the construction of the second USS ship, Michael Monsoor (DDG-1001), was signed on February 14, 2008 with General Dynamics Corporation in the amount of $ 1,4 billion. Assembly of blocks for the ship began in March 2010 at the Bath Iron Works shipyard in Bath, Maine. The keel laying ceremony was held on May 23, 2013. On June 18, 2016, a baptism ceremony was held at the shipyard.

On December 04, 2017, he left the shipyard and went along the Kennebek River to the Atlantic Ocean to pass the first stage of sea trials. On December 05, during testing, problems arose in the electrical system and the ship returned to the shipyard. On the destroyer, a harmonic filter failed to protect the equipment from voltage surges. As a result, he lost the ability to use a complex electrical network at high loads during the tests .

[75 hammer]

In fact, the ship is innovative, the only question is demand. For example, following the results of Tsushima, linear battlecruisers were cut, as a result: Doger Bank and Jutland proved the fallacy of such a path. But the solutions tested on them were used on other ships. I think the same thing here: Zumwalt is a colonial ship, and if there are no colonies, why use it?

[faterdom]

How? And the second ship in the series without a scam? No, it doesn’t pull on the wader!

[Old26]

In any case, he met expectations or not, but decided to build an experimental series. It is possible that similar ships in architecture were most likely planned by us, but they didn’t go. And what are expensive? Well, single ones are always expensive. Remember our "goldfish".
Something implemented on these EMs will probably be used in a series of new destroyers that will replace Berkov

[vladimirasha]

The golden iron must be protected, otherwise it will be stolen