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Ministry of Communications: There will be no "great Chinese firewall" in Russia

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Alexei Volin, deputy head of the Ministry of Communications and Mass Media, told the media about whether it is planned to implement in Russia attempts to introduce an analogue of the “great Chinese firewall”. This question arose against the background of Roskomnadzor’s measures to block the Telegeram messenger, which in some cases led to difficulties in accessing some other Internet resources. Recall that in China there is a so-called Great Firewall, blocking the general access to Google, Facebook and others. At the same time, in China, government blocking (everyone who needs it) learned to bypass using a variety of software tools.


In the interview RIA News Alexey Volin said that he had heard about the fears of Russians about blocking various services, noting in the end the following:
These are empty concerns. Moreover, we are actively friends with China and exchange information about the development of the media market. We always assumed that Russia is Russia, China is China. We will never go the Chinese way in relation to the Internet. We have our own Russian way and today there is no question about creating a Russian Firewall.


Ministry of Communications: There will be no "great Chinese firewall" in Russia


Volin added that the economic side of the issue is also important here. According to him, the Chinese “great firewall” is a very expensive thing.

Earlier, the head of the Kremlin press service, Dmitry Peskov, said that the program for creating the “great Russian firewall” was not working in the country.
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  1. 8200
    8200 April 26 2018 14: 36
    +2
    Already have the Great Russian Firewall!
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg April 26 2018 14: 39
      +6
      Quote: 8200
      Already have the Great Russian Firewall!

      Call at least the Chinese wall, at least the European wall ... the essence does not change. Again, total surveillance of all returns.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 26 2018 14: 43
        +3
        Quote: Geisenberg
        Again, total surveillance of all returns.

        What is needed is not surveillance, but content restriction, moreover, it is of the Chinese type. But we are trying to follow. But porn in the public domain. request
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 April 26 2018 15: 00
          +5
          Ha, ha, but look where and how they are now monitoring / controlling in the internet !!! We in these ranks are not that we can get closer to the leaders, we should keep up with outsiders!
          And it will be even cooler! It has come to many in the "free" Western world that the community \ state must protect itself and its citizens !!! This is a social contract!
          People, sleep peacefully, big brother watches, does not sleep !!!
          I’ll sleep peacefully, but especially “spiritualized” ... yes, even if they finally can’t sleep!
          1. INTER
            INTER April 26 2018 16: 21
            +2
            If they don’t say it, it means either there is or soon will be))
      2. himRa
        himRa April 26 2018 15: 01
        +3
        Quote: Geisenberg
        Quote: 8200
        Already have the Great Russian Firewall!

        Call at least the Chinese wall, at least the European wall ... the essence does not change. Again, total surveillance of all returns.

        And all users hooting and gladly use it,
        FORGET ABOUT PERSONAL LIFE, which supposedly is not touched! and not controlled wassat
        Throw out your smartphone, go to the tundra, chat with the bear, but then aam no one will give a guarantee !!!
        1. Ross_ulair
          Ross_ulair April 26 2018 15: 20
          +1
          Quote: himRa
          go to the tundra, chat with the bear but then aam no one will give a guarantee !!!

          So it is: all the bears in the tundra have long been FSB informants belay
        2. Yura
          Yura April 26 2018 16: 12
          +1
          Quote: himRa
          FORGET ABOUT PERSONAL LIFE, which supposedly is not touched! and not controlled
          Throw out your smartphone, go to the tundra, chat with the bear, but then aam no one will give a guarantee !!!

          Do you have windows on your computer, do you have android on your phone? What kind of personal privacy are you talking about, if from the moment you purchased these devices you steal this very immunity. Roskomnadzor may not have been quite prepared to enter into this confrontation with Durov (I emphasize with Durov, not Telegram, because encrypted correspondence on this network is only one of the services), but the day before yesterday I read somewhere that visits to this resource in Russia were reduced by 76,6, XNUMX%, that is, the State as a whole is seeking the implementation of a court decision, not without overlaps, which is fixable, but it is a fact.
      3. gromoboj
        gromoboj April 28 2018 18: 14
        0
        Trying to come back. Now there was an unsuccessful attempt with subsequent hysteria.
    2. gromoboj
      gromoboj April 28 2018 18: 15
      0
      Not yet.
      So far, for the presence of the VPN client, the 5th planer will not give their garbage to the XNUMXth planer.
  2. helmi8
    helmi8 April 26 2018 14: 38
    0
    We will never go the Chinese way regarding the Internet

    Like - do we have our own Kaspersky? laughing
    1. Ross_ulair
      Ross_ulair April 26 2018 15: 22
      +2
      We have the Great RosKomNadzor!
      With the Greatest Specialists, as well as deputies with the Greatest Ideas! repeat
      1. gromoboj
        gromoboj April 28 2018 18: 17
        0
        Oh yeah. Spring package for example. So it is tempting to configure the script so that it swaps Windows from the server to the computer and vice versa. =)
  3. Smoked
    Smoked April 26 2018 14: 42
    +2
    Reassured. So it will be.
    1. reservist
      reservist April 26 2018 14: 58
      +3
      instead of the Great Firewall there will be a Big Black Hole where all traffic will fly away ...
      Yesterday it turned out that dowjones.com is also blocked ...
      moreover, the type of blocking used by the ILV - "from honest people" ...
      Now they’ll probably be chasing proxy and vpn until they block the entire Internet ...
      q @ #% $ s b * & ...
  4. Serge Gorely
    Serge Gorely April 26 2018 14: 42
    +9
    That's right, we won’t go the Chinese way ... China defends its national interests, and we are the interests of copywriters from the "partner countries"
  5. Clueless
    Clueless April 26 2018 14: 58
    +5
    We always have our own way :))))

    And what will not happen is clear without them. We will have better things - ala North Korea with their small-town Internet, not immediately, of course, is stretched for 5 years. For after 6 years, new elections, they need fences to put it in time
    1. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO April 26 2018 17: 26
      0
      Not quite like in the DPRK. There, the national government and through the internal Internet protects the people from the decaying influence of Western civilization, and no one is going to block such content (like porn) from us, and the Ministry of Communications says. And no wonder, all this is “good”, and in real life no one forbids, such as democracy, freedom. Corrupted and pampered people are easier to manipulate, for this control is also needed in the virtual, because the virtual world intersects with the real one. hi
  6. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 26 2018 15: 07
    0
    In China, 1,2 billion people and neta users, and we have 140 million. What is profitable to do in China is not always beneficial in our conditions!
  7. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat April 26 2018 15: 29
    0
    And why is there such a very "expensive"? You carry out “cannibalism” of providers — you create so-called “state providers” and everything is completely controlled by the Internet and in addition you enter an article in the UK for 12 years “without the right of correspondence” for “frequency theft” and “private provider” ... I gave everyone an affiliate IP ID ishnik, I put to everyone who wants the Internet on the computer something like "WebSec" as a "mandatory package with a login to the network through it and voila, all traffic is under control .....
    1. reservist
      reservist April 27 2018 11: 14
      0
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Gave everyone an ID-based IP ishnik,

      where can I find so many of them?
      something is poorly believed that the "state provider" will master the transition to ip v6 ...
  8. Bad_santa
    Bad_santa April 26 2018 15: 58
    +3
    A few days ago, Putin signed into law a law on liability for false, unproven information on the Internet that discredits a person’s honor and dignity. Sites on which such information will be published will be blocked. On the one hand, the law is correct, but it rather limits to some extent the work of statements addressed to thieving officials. This means that people will stop writing about cases of extortion of a bribe by an official or other illegal actions, since such cases are very rarely supported and recorded. If a citizen who has run into such an official wants to discuss this problem at the forum, then the official can easily sue and win in court, as the victim will not have iron evidence. Very twofold law. The Internet was the only place where people could discuss the problems in the country without fear. Every year this outlet is getting smaller
    1. Irokez
      Irokez April 26 2018 16: 35
      0
      Quote: Bad_Santa
      Every year this outlet is getting smaller

      Unfortunately, through this outlet, people are brainwashed and fooled.
      Any thing created in the world is both evil and good. Therefore, it is necessary to have a middle ground in everything and not go to extremes. Special services should protect the country, the economy and information from lies, provocations and misinformation for the benefit of both the state and the residents themselves, this is their primary task and to stop those who want to change this rule, and this, in turn, is perceived as an encroachment on personal life, freedom, the prohibition of freedom of expression (pluralism of opinions of Mlyn) and so on. Who will not defend his and that sphere of life where he lives, will soon be without everything and live according to the laws of the invaders who will come through velvet revolutions or Maidan. After that, drinking Borjomi and thinking that everything will return as it was before is just fantastic.
      1. Bad_santa
        Bad_santa April 27 2018 08: 49
        0
        The lion's share of all domestic killings is committed with a kitchen knife. Agree idiocy to prohibit the use of kitchen knives. But for some reason there is a ban on Telegram and other measures. So much for the analogies
        1. Irokez
          Irokez April 27 2018 12: 14
          0
          A kitchen knife is a tool and nothing more, but all kinds of means affecting the mind of a person and inducing him to action should be controlled because through them our brains are washed and changed reality.
          A telegram is also a tool, but then open it for special services.
      2. gromoboj
        gromoboj April 28 2018 18: 19
        0
        To make it difficult for a person to powder his brain, there must be critical thinking. But unfortunately such a person doesn’t hang noodles either.
  9. filalex79
    filalex79 April 26 2018 16: 11
    0
    I read the comments, they write some nonsense. Probably bots. And as for the firewall, I'm just for it!
    1. gromoboj
      gromoboj April 28 2018 18: 22
      0
      Really. They write crap. You give triple courts and executions on the spot. And to express your opinion now again only in the kitchen at night to express?
  10. Clueless
    Clueless April 26 2018 18: 39
    +3
    Quote: filalex79
    I read the comments, they write some nonsense. Probably bots. And as for the firewall, I'm just for it!


    Yes, you apparently and are not against executions, those who do not follow the course of the party :))
  11. Clueless
    Clueless April 26 2018 18: 43
    +5
    Quote: Irokez
    Quote: Bad_Santa
    Every year this outlet is getting smaller

    Unfortunately, through this outlet, people are brainwashed and fooled.
    Any thing created in the world is both evil and good. Therefore, it is necessary to have a middle ground in everything and not go to extremes. Special services should protect the country, the economy and information from lies, provocations and misinformation for the benefit of both the state and the residents themselves, this is their primary task and to stop those who want to change this rule, and this, in turn, is perceived as an encroachment on personal life, freedom, the prohibition of freedom of expression (pluralism of opinions of Mlyn) and so on. Who will not defend his and that sphere of life where he lives, will soon be without everything and live according to the laws of the invaders who will come through velvet revolutions or Maidan. After that, drinking Borjomi and thinking that everything will return as it was before is just fantastic.


    Name at least one SUCCESSFUL country with a developed economy, where the color revolution took place? Yes, to hell with her color, even the usual.
    To avoid revolutions, you must have a developed economy, decent politics and civil society. And when we have been stuffed since the 2000s that the West is to blame for everything, while the official is getting fatter and fatter, not some closed Internet can save you from troubles. I’ll even say more - the more the Internet is crushed, the more hatred of youth it causes.
    1. Irokez
      Irokez April 29 2018 17: 56
      0
      Quote: Bad
      the more hatred of youth it causes.

      All the more pleasing to the parents of this inexperienced youth.
  12. Clueless
    Clueless April 27 2018 14: 38
    +1
    Quote: Irokez
    A kitchen knife is a tool and nothing more, but all kinds of means affecting the mind of a person and inducing him to action should be controlled because through them our brains are washed and changed reality.
    A telegram is also a tool, but then open it for special services.


    And why open it for special services, which has a very low level of trust, even in their own country? What kind of admiration for the security forces is this?
    1. Irokez
      Irokez April 29 2018 17: 59
      0
      Quote: Bad
      What kind of admiration for the security forces is this?

      Not admiration, but an understanding of their essence. Without security officials (whatever they were) anarchy would have long been. Those questions about which you do not even guess in your consumer life are being solved.
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