900 million rubles to create a heavy UAV. Arrested Director OKB. Simonov

The Soviet District Court of Kazan arrested until June 10 the General Director of OKB im. Simonov Alexander Gomzin, accused of embezzlement of 900 million rubles allocated for the creation of a heavy drone, reports TASS with reference to the acting head of the enterprise Vladislav Lachugin.

Gomzin taken into custody by the court at the request of the investigation until June 10

- he said.

According to him, Gomzin is accused of 7 article 159 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (fraud on a large scale, involving deliberate non-fulfillment of contractual obligations in the field of business activity, if this act caused significant damage) of the 2 of the Criminal Code (abuse of authority resulting grave consequences) and parts 201 of the article 2 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (misappropriation of budgetary funds).

Kazan experimental design bureau "Sokol" in 2014 was renamed to JSC "Scientific and Production Association" Simonov experimental design bureau. "The main areas of activity of the joint-stock company are research and development work on unmanned aerial vehicles, air targets. The main the customer for the products and services is the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. In the summer of 2017, the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, Yuri Borisov, reported that the Simonov Design Bureau created a prototype of a heavy drone drone that nd must go out on state tests in 2018.

Comments

[_Ugene_]

Well, do not see us shock drone? in principle, it is logical, we all steal who have access to budget money

[Monos]

Articles are heavy. Spanking, apparently, will be indicative.

[210ox]

And we are all surprised that we do not have a heavy UAV. There is no execution, there is no result. Victor As for flogging, I hope not so much as with Vasilyeva ...

Quote: Monos

Articles are heavy. Spanking, apparently, will be indicative.

[Monos]

Dmitry, my respect

Quote: 210ox

As for flogging, I hope not so much as with Vasilyeva ...

Nah ... This one won't creep away. More recently, GDP talked about tougher penalties for crimes related to the execution of a defense order. There will be a show trial.

[Stas157]

Quote: Monos

Nah ... This one won't creep away.

It seems to me that Chubais is much more zagreb! And no one even thinks to bring him to court.

[Antidote]

Chubais knows too much and enters the family; no one will touch him.

[Black Colonel]

Maybe the Redhead in what scribble with earflaps scribbles? Something has not been visible on screens for a long time

[Bad_santa]

This suspect by his actions undermined the country's defense. Here, even a conversation is not in the amount of damage, but in its severity for the country. Such must be imprisoned for life with the right to exit in 20 years. Those who stole from 1 billion - with the right to exit in 30 years. Those from 5 billion and above - without the right to exit. That would immediately Russia's GDP would show an increase of 10-20%

[Yuyuka]

Quote: Bad_Santa

This suspect by his actions undermined the country's defense. Here, even a conversation is not in the amount of damage, but in its severity for the country. Such must be imprisoned for life with the right to exit in 20 years. Those who stole from 1 billion - with the right to exit in 30 years. Those from 5 billion and above - without the right to exit. That would immediately Russia's GDP would show an increase of 10-20%

perhaps not everything is so simple ... why put a label on the person "guilty" before the trial ?? in our time, you can substitute anyone, therefore - we will not rush to the degree of guilt.

"I understand, comrade judges, this is a difficult task for you ....
Of course, he is to blame ... But he is not to blame!
Have pity on him, fellow judges ... He is a very good man ... "(c)

[Bad_santa]

I write SUSPECTED. It’s just now that you need to check how each ruble was used. That golden time of the beginning of the XNUMXs, when revenues were huge from the sale of hydrocarbons, was gone

[Vladimir 5]

The famous Vasilyeva is the cousin of Linnik, the wife of A. Medvedev, about which we are talking, the Panimash family contract ...

[Evgeniy667b]

That's why all those who are at the trough, and are eager for export. There you can steal the proceeds, the money is not taken into account. But on the GOZ-the result is obvious. Previously, the truth was closed by kickbacks, but now I want to hope these times are gone! ???

[Lord of the Sith]

Dmitriy Moreover, there is not even confiscation of property!

[Varna]

Yes, for 900 million and I would sit. Is it possible to swap places with the director? Only chur and cons and pluses in one package;)))

[Monster_Fat]

That's right, it's about $ 15 million at the current exchange rate, if you stole before 2016, it’s twice as much, a good jackpot, you can sit for it. True, it’s necessary to pay about half — so that the imprisonment is in the “right place” without fucking in the priest and without the arrivals of cellmates, and to go free by the next amnesty, but at a comfortable old age, somewhere in the Marshal Islands or Kiribati will completely remain. ...

[okko077]

We do not have a heavy UAV because we cannot have it. But it cannot be, because we do not have global information systems that provide it with a working information coverage for working in real time at any point on its route .... If this is not the case, then this is no longer a UAV in the modern sense - play to toys and rave new ones further ... We in Syria do not have simple UAVs that provide information exchange and target designation for real-time weapons and surveillance systems beyond 100 km ... Moreover, even this information in real time is transmitted only to the control operator’s remote UAV and it is possible to thrust themselves into one place than the military and engaged for 15 years .....

[NN52]

okko077

Greetings ...
And before, they didn’t say anything about the remote ...

[YELLOWSTONE]

again have to go to the Israelis for purchases
https://i.imgur.com/Kde9mme.jpg?1

[okko077]

This does not save, and howitzers and MLRS, too, will you buy from them for approval? Understand once and for all, buying a UAV does not make sense at all, brains should only be their for agreement with their destruction systems ... You can buy an engine, ... a control system, information collection sensors .... Otherwise, the information will only go to the remote control, and not to the weapon control systems immediately .... That's why in Syria we have fire spotters everywhere .... like in the 2nd world ... What is our advanced leadership, how does it build a modern army? Everywhere he substitutes his soldiers as a consumable ... Again, smart officers will flee the army - nothing changes ... The Gerasimovs alone will remain ...

[YELLOWSTONE]

link look

[Siberian]

... There is no execution, there is no result ...

Dmitry, , but why there is no execution there, at least a stigma on the forehead, well, or there it’s a hand to cut (disability should not be given)

[spirit]

Yeah, it’s strange in the USA, as they say, they’re sawing more, but they have it, we’ve sawing less, but we don’t)

[Galaxy]

"In the summer of 2017, Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Yuri Borisov reported that the Simonov Design Bureau had created a prototype of a heavy shock drone, which should go to state tests in 2018."

It turns out that the balance of the allocated budget was enough even for a prototype!
Gomzin turned out to be a grabber, but with the beginnings of an "effective" economist.
Such would be in the "cabinet" to Medvedev, he would have approved.

[NIKNN]

Quote: Monos

Articles are heavy. Spanking, apparently, will be indicative.

Let's live to see the court ... Something streamlined, specifically

large-scale fraud, associated with intentional non-performance of contractual obligations in the field of entrepreneurial activity, if this act entailed significant damage

There is a feeling that the deadline for fraud has been summed up ... I don’t know and I don’t affirm anything. And the Court can and will retrain, so far only charges ...

[Svarog]

Quote: Monos

Articles are heavy. Spanking, apparently, will be indicative.

Where thieves do not spit everywhere .. yes .. And the top managers are not weak at the top managers, and all is small ..

[Andrey Yuryevich]

it’s clear why in our Parade, such unpretentious crafts on the platforms will go ....

[Svarog]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

it’s clear why in our Parade, such unpretentious crafts on the platforms will go ....

Yes, in general, and for such characters and everything in Russia is so .. Only draconian measures can affect the scale of theft .. but they are not introduced ..

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: Svarog

Yes, in general, and for such characters and everything in Russia is so .. Only draconian measures can affect the scale of theft .. but they are not introduced ..

And how can a “dragon” introduce draconian measures against itself? First you need to "kill the dragon" (c).

[Svarog]

Quote: Anti-Corr.

Quote: Svarog

Yes, in general, and for such characters and everything in Russia is so .. Only draconian measures can affect the scale of theft .. but they are not introduced ..

And how can a “dragon” introduce draconian measures against itself? First you need to "kill the dragon" (c).

The fact of the matter is that there is no one to kill ..

[Galaxy]

he is koschey, it’s difficult to kill, but the Americans have already groped an egg

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: Galaxy

he is koschey, it’s difficult to kill, but the Americans have already groped an egg

What is the cello?

[Galaxy]

they pressed on the "egg", but it started to crash for the beginning of the "mermaid".
Honestly, I don’t feel sorry for anyone, these grabbers, led by Koshchei, already got it.
Without them, I think it will be easier for Russia.
PS I do not believe in the American threat, I believe in the Chinese (which is a matter of taste)

[bk316]

I'd like to see what songs you will sing when they come for you ....

[Galaxy]

"Black headlights at a neighboring gate,
Buttercups, handcuffs, torn mouth.
How many times rolled my head
With a crowded chopping block flew here .. "(Y. Shevchuk)
Are you hinting at this?
So after all, it will affect you later, all this has already passed, it hurt everyone.

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: bk316

I'd like to see what songs you will sing when they come for you ....

"And if there are those who come to you
There will be those who come for you. "
So the earth is round .... " And Malchish's father went to the wall, took off his rifle, threw his bag and put on a bandoleer. Well, says the eldest son, I densely sowed rye, it is obvious that you will have to harvest a lot. Well, ”he says to Malchish,“ I’ve lived a cool life ... and it’s good to live for me, it’s obvious that you, Malchish, have to. So he said, kissed Malchish tightly and left. "

[Svarog]

Quote: Galaxy

PS I do not believe in the American threat, I believe in the Chinese (which is a matter of taste)

How so you do not believe? There is no need to believe, they are threatening us without hiding this and, moreover, they are realizing their threats .. But China, they are not yet threatening .. well, for now ..

[Galaxy]

I don’t see any threats, they are trying to explain to us what (some) my mother and father did not teach simple truths in childhood. But some have rested and will rest and even the collapse of Russia will not stop him, for in another version he believes that the Hague is waiting for him.

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: Svarog

they threaten us without hiding this and, moreover, they realize their threats.

Most of all, as an ethnic group, our power is the most threatening, and the mattress has a thin gut, I hope this is obvious?

[Svarog]

Quote: Anti-Corr.

Most of all, as an ethnic group, our power is the most threatening, and the mattress has a thin gut, I hope this is obvious?

It is undeniable

[Stas157]

Quote: Svarog

Where thieves do not spit everywhere .. yes .. And the top managers are not weak at the top managers, and all is small ..

But is there anyone who is surprised by this, perceives it with bewilderment? In my opinion, this is already a completely “normal” situation, which did not develop suddenly, but a very long time ago.

[Svarog]

Quote: Stas157

Quote: Svarog

Where thieves do not spit everywhere .. yes .. And the top managers are not weak at the top managers, and all is small ..

But is there anyone who is surprised by this, perceives it with bewilderment? In my opinion, this is already a completely “normal” situation, which did not develop suddenly, but a very long time ago.

It is surprising that this is a key problem in Russia, and everyone is so used to it, they are not even surprised .. Therefore, they are not going to solve it at all ..

[Major Yurik]

Another unmanned sorcerer from the masters of life! Probably in the "party of entrepreneurs of Russia" consisted, well, of those whom the state strangles! Zarobitchin, as the Sumerians say.

[New Year day]

Quote: Balu

Not so simple. This is from local news:

The head of the Serpukhov district of Moscow Region made a video message to Putin because of FSB threats.
He complains about pressure from security forces and regional authorities. The reason he calls the approval of the rally against the landfill at the Lesnaya landfill, as well as the reluctance to resign from the post of head of the municipality. In addition, Alexander Shestun is actively opposing the municipal reform of the Moscow Region - the transformation of the district with individual municipalities with their heads and deputies into a single urban district. This reform is carried out on the initiative of the Governor of the Moscow Region Andrei Vorobyov, and Serpukhov District is one of the few municipalities that have not been transformed into a district.

[Baloo]

Quote: Monos

Articles are heavy. Spanking, apparently, will be indicative.

Hello Victor! Not so simple. This is from local news:
In Kazan, the Soviet city court arrested the director general of the Simonov Design Bureau Alexander Gomzin until June 10. The CEO is suspected of using the subsidies that were provided in November 2014 by the Ministry of Industry and Trade to the design bureau for purposes that do not meet the conditions for their receipt.
According to media reports, in January of this year, Gomzin sent a letter to the FSB addressed to the head of the counterintelligence service stating that he had been pressured, he was also asked to voluntarily relieve the post of general director of the OKB, to conduct an additional issue of OKB shares.
“In return, I was promised to stop the prosecution of me and my employees by the law enforcement agencies of the Republic of Tatarstan,” the statement said.
It is noted that in the fall of 2017 UBEP Ministry of Internal Affairs conducted investigative actions at the enterprise.
By the way:
At the Simonov Joint Design Bureau (OKB) in Kazan, a high-speed unmanned aerial vehicle for the Russian Ministry of Defense is being developed. A drone weighing 4-5 tons should reach speeds of up to 750-950 km / h.
Experimental Design Bureau. M.P. Simonova specializes in the design and manufacture of unmanned aerial vehicle systems. The company performs a full cycle of operations to create high-tech products - from design to the transfer of finished samples to the customer.
Something like that. Friends, didn’t you be surprised at this? A certain dissonance, emission, and still what ...
Let's not rush to conclusions yet.

[Monos]

Quote: Balu

Let's not rush to conclusions yet.

Hello, Witch
You are probably right. Perhaps I got excited with the conclusions. I will be glad if this person turns out to be honest, decent and glad for the cause. And even more I will be glad if, in this case, they protect him. And I will be just happy if those who persecuted him, if any, are to be punished.

[Baloo]

Quote: Monos

I will be glad if this person turns out to be honest, decent and glad for the cause. And even more I will be glad if, in this case, they protect him. And I will be just happy if those who persecuted him, if any, are punished

Do you understand what bothered me? I am very far from jurisprudence and the Pepilians, but I suddenly remembered the story of the bustle of Alfa Bank around the Uralvagonzavod and the desire to participate in lending to the defense industry. So I thought, and not someone dirty clawed paw because of the river trying to destroy the unique design bureau and its potential products? I would like to believe that the team and its leader have nothing to do with the military prosecutor’s office with counterintelligence.

[Baloo]

Do you understand what bothered me?

Here is another from Business Online Kazan:
Around OKB them. Simonova spins thriller: counterintelligence, allegedly stolen millions, Cyprus, Israeli military industrialists
The general director - chief designer of OKB im. Simonova. Such shocking news appeared today in the evening. According to "BUSINESS Online", the chief of the enterprise, which is developing the first heavy drone in Russia, is suspected of misuse of state funds, abuse of authority and fraud. And he allegedly wrote a mysterious statement to the FSB, where he accused not the last people of the republic of lobbying for the interests of a foreign state.

[Svarog]

Quote: Balu

where he accused not the last people of the republic of lobbying for the interests of a foreign state.

This did not surprise at all .. given that some were included in the Forbes list, and some generally live in London ..

[Baloo]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Balu

where he accused not the last people of the republic of lobbying for the interests of a foreign state.

This did not surprise at all .. given that some were included in the Forbes list, and some generally live in London ..

And then even more interesting and foggy:

But the matter, as it turns out, is not limited to “banal” misuse. Prime had at its disposal a statement that Gomzin sent to the FSB counterintelligence service in January of this year. In it, he claims that in October 2014, under the pressure of well-known businessman Rustem Magdeev, Sokol OJSC (the owner of a controlling stake in OKB) disposed of 301,865 ordinary shares in favor of Falcon Air LLC, and in the summer of 2017 Magdeev disposed of shares, owned by Falcon Air, in favor of a company affiliated with businessman Viktor Grigoriev.
Gomzin also said (quoted from Prime): “In May 2015, Mr. Magdeev invited me to open the Graf store in the Republic of Cyprus ... During my visit to the Republic of Cyprus, Mr. Magdeev persistently invited me to enter "cooperation with a major Israeli businessman, also present at the event, which Mr. Magdeev introduced as one of the largest suppliers of Israeli military developments, including unmanned aerial systems, which I refused."
In December 2017, according to Gomzin, he was asked to voluntarily vacate the post of General Director of the OKB, to conduct an additional issue of OKB shares. “In return, I was promised to stop the prosecution of me and my employees by law enforcement agencies of the Republic of Tatarstan,” Prime Minister quoted Gomzin as saying. Gomzin admits that “the team of Mr. Magdeev and Mr. Grigoriev will gain control over the design bureau and access to materials that are state secrets, which may lead to undesirable distribution of confidential scientific and technical documentation, access to it by third parties, and will jeopardize the fulfillment by the OKB of its obligations [on state defense orders]. ”

More information on BUSINESS Online: https://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/379691

[sogdy]

Quote: Balu

In it, he claims that in October 2014, under the pressure of well-known businessman Rustem Magdeev, Sokol OJSC (the owner of a controlling stake in OKB) disposed of 301,865 ordinary shares in favor of Falcon Air LLC, and in the summer of 2017 Magdeev disposed of shares, owned by Falcon Air, in favor of a company affiliated with businessman Viktor Grigoriev.

So this is just "alienation"? Nothing that private shares are _state_ securities? And everything goes through a licensing system. Those. the CEO’s signature is there.

[Golovan Jack]

You just said something like that - I didn’t understand ... honestly

Quote: sogdy

private shares are _state_ securities

They are not ...

Quote: sogdy

everything goes through a licensing system

Yah? Which, let me ask?

Quote: sogdy

CEO's signature there

In stocks? Here are the stopuds - no. Stocks are now usually "electronic" ...

[Monos]

I understand you, man. Indeed, the best solution would be if the military promotes this matter. I think it will be so.
PS I looked at his biography. Normal, like, man. He was not associated with any financial structures. All his life he worked as an engineer. Yes, I got excited in my conclusions.

[Baloo]

Quote: Monos

I think it will be so

We have appointed the former leader of the organized crime group, who received a term of 8.5 years for murder charges and other things in the 90s, as the director of a football club. What time!

[Svarog]

Quote: Balu

Quote: Monos

I think it will be so

We have appointed the former leader of the organized crime group, who received a term of 8.5 years for murder charges and other things in the 90s, as the director of a football club. What time!

Well, you just started to notice amazing things .. well, knows a lot soon eyes will open ..

[Baloo]

Did KB become a victim of circumstances?
More interesting:

The ultimate beneficiary of Sokol-Invest is unknown; as of the end of 2016, Tatfondbank was the nominal holder of 100% of the shares.

More information on BUSINESS Online: https://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/379691

On March 3, 2017, by order of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, the banking license of Tatfondbank was revokedа

[NG inform]

And completely meaningless. Here, the offender is a state, not a developer. Accordingly, officials are not punished, no conclusions are drawn.

[Pete mitchell]

as there Peter the Great said: nettle seed every six months with sticks on the heels ...

[antivirus]

and oil industry workers sometimes drill dry wells
and UAVs do not fly.
only from the stands speak well

[XXXIII]

Quote: _Ugene_

Well, do not see us shock drone? in principle, it is logical, we all steal who have access to budget money

Just someone decided to highlight a new product for 900 million rubles. If the boss steals, this does not mean that work is not ongoing ...
Car with tail number "02", I don’t know the shock, but it’s heavy...
0.15

Scat combat unmanned vehicle

[sabotage]

Quote: XXXIII

Car with tail number "02", I don’t know the shock, but it’s heavy ...
0.15

Not very hard like. Most likely less than a ton.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: _Ugene_

Well, do not see us shock drone? in principle, it is logical, we all steal who have access to budget money

Uto said not to see? On the contrary, now the chances of its creation have increased many times over. Then, at a copper cup, Chaika said that the stall of the defense order by 18 billion rubles was prevented. It is interesting how to assess this - sabotage, or betrayal in the interests of a foreign state? There is no more detailed information yet. Who owns discard the link.

[Baloo]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Who owns discard the link.

Business on-line Kazan, nothing more.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Balu

Business on-line Kazan, nothing more.

I doubt that they are pulling an order of 18 billion.

[Borik]

Financial documents had to be better. Then I wouldn’t get caught.
They plant them and they steal and steal

[gridasov]

Quite a stupid person. For that kind of money you could bring so many ideas to life. Greed is a deep vice

[Herculesic]

Gridasov - believe me, but this is far from greed!

[gridasov]

This is probably the philosophy of life. Some are poor, but talented and weak in business, and others with sticky handles, but mediocre. Personally, I have calmed down.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: gridasov

Quite a stupid person. For that kind of money you could bring so many ideas to life. Greed is a deep vice

Yes, it seems not stupid.

Alexander Vladislavovich Gomzin was born on 26 on May 1967 in Khabarovsk. in 1992, he graduated with honors from the Kazan Aviation Institute (KAI) with a degree in Flight Dynamics and Aircraft Control, Design and Strength of Aircraft. In 1991, he began to work as a laboratory assistant at NIL N 35 KAI named after A.N. Tupolev. In the period 1992-1998 years. - Engineer of the research department for railway with AOOT "Sukhoi Design Bureau", engineer of the training laboratory, graduate student of the Department of Aircraft Design and Design, senior lecturer, senior researcher of the research department, head of the railway with AOOT "Sukhoi Design Bureau" Kazan State Technical University A.N. Tupolev. 1998-2000 - the head of the enterprise - the chief designer of the State Unitary Enterprise "Experimental Design Bureau" Sokol "(now Simonov Design Bureau), since 2000 he has been the general director - chief designer of the enterprise.

[gridasov]

As the saying goes, if a person is smart, that person is many.

[NN52]

Aaron Zawi

You don’t understand the local showdowns ... which are now taking place in Tatarstan ... They have taken on a lot ... Local ... It's time for them to reduce the local mentality a little ...
Someone apparently fell under politics ...

[Baloo]

Quote: NN52

Someone apparently fell under politics ..

From the materials of Business on-line Kazan, I understood that the general designer who was ignorant of finances was first confused with shares, then they took him out to open a store in Cyprus, and there they began to incline him to cooperate with an Israeli military industrialist. Our guy did not give up, then they began to choke him from all sides. He asked the FSB for help.
I regard it as an attempt to polygonal (otherwise they will acquire an anti-Semite) to destroy a unique design bureau and a potential competitor.

[NN52]

Baloo

Have you been to Kazan for a long time ???
Or do you live there?
Please answer the question.

[Baloo]

Quote: NN52

Have you been to Kazan for a long time ???

I live from 1968, before this Oktyabrsk, Samara. In the know about what the local banks have burned over the past 3 years and who are the beneficiaries. I’m not specifically interested, I just occasionally stumble upon accidentally in our Internet publications + radio from TV. The city is being built rapidly, there are interest holders deceived. There are pluses: pools and sports complexes in the regional centers, Victory parks, monuments to those killed in the Second World War in every district center and village. There is nothing to talk about. The fight against corruption? Is underway. The former vice-premier of an old sick man was jailed, dozens of officials at various levels in these 4 months left their homes, or even sat down. Now the Ministry of Health is shaking the big one and there is a reason. But the KB case from open information in the local media makes a heavy impression. So far, I believe that the person has been confused and a dirty paw is trying to destroy the unique design bureau due to the river.

[NN52]

Baloo
Thank you for responding, respect to you ,,
Well, if you live there, answer the question about the state language (national language) ... Your personal opinion?

[Baloo]

Quote: NN52

Well, if you live there, answer the question about the state language (national language) ... Your personal opinion?

Language, as part of culture, should be studied by everyone, but not to the detriment of other subjects.

[sogdy]

Quote: NN52

answer the question about the state language (national language)

As a representative of the family, which also owned Kazan, about “the so-called national language” - in the 40s this language was called Arabic. The Tatars did not have a single language; in fact, they made the largest contribution to modern Russian.
So, I am against teaching Volopyuk, Esperanto, Ukrainian and other self-made works. By the way, like Hebrew. This is one way to change the past.

[gridasov]

Then it is obvious that the service does not do its job and does not cover responsible enterprises.

[svp67]

In the summer of 2017, Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Yuri Borisov reported that OKB im. Simonova created a prototype of a heavy shock drone, which is due to go to state tests in 2018.

So I understand that it will not work ....

arrested until June 10 the Director General of OKB. Simonov Alexander Gomzin, accused of embezzlement of 900 million rubles allocated for the creation of a heavy drone

Almost like the Queen in 1937, he also sat down for embezzlement ...

[Herculesic]

His surname is interesting, I'm not really a nationalist, but for some reason, sometimes the name of a person will say a lot of useful things!

[pogon]

Quote: Herkulesich

His surname is interesting,

Do not tell me, but something interesting?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Herkulesich

His surname is interesting, I'm not really a nationalist, but for some reason, sometimes the name of a person will say a lot of useful things!

So use the search engine.

[Herculesic]

One flew, but alas, this is not a drone promised by the army!

[VladVlad]

Why have you been arrested for so long! Three years ago it was necessary to do this.

[Vita vko]

Quote: VladVlad

Why have you been arrested for so long! Three years ago it was necessary to do this

thought that conscience would wake up and he would share

[Baloo]

Quote: VladVlad

Why have you been arrested for so long! Three years ago it was necessary to do this.

Do not rush the letter-letter, without delving into the matter. To draw conclusions early. Let the FSB deal with the military prosecutor’s office and give everyone an assessment and what they deserve.

[UAZ 452]

If you sat down for what you stole - wonderful. But they could very well be imprisoned for not sharing. In this case, the one who will steal will be many times more, but will not forget to bring someone to replace.

[dauria]

If you sat down for what you stole - wonderful. But they could very well be imprisoned for not sharing.

And in Russia they can put me in prison for not letting me steal. Perhaps someone did not let go of the money ....

[Krasnoyarsk]

Yes, when they get drunk something ..... Their colleagues are already planting bundles, but they all can’t tear themselves away from the feeder! Zhor was stronger than the instinct of self-protection! Aw, Freud, what did you give us?

[Heterocapsa]

execution. time has come.

[Seaflame]

These are the most terrible enemies of Russia! Not Americans, not Freemasons, much less Bandera dill. And here are these thievish bureaucrats, corrupt junkies. Either their number will be drastically reduced or they will send our country to the full ... they will drive it!

[bk316]

Need to shoot?
And the article on which Korolev did not recall?
Need to shoot?

[Seaflame]

To shoot? I don’t know, in China they shoot for bribes, and the level of corruption is very high. At least it is faster to catch this thief and not to allow public money anymore. And about Korolev, times were such that if a person did not sit, then this is not his merit, but a defect in organs))

[bk316]

such times were

Build a graph on which on the X axis postpone the time starting from 2013 on the Y axis the number of officials planted with a rank not lower than the mayor. Extrapolate for 6 years forward. Doesn't suggest a thought about times.
Notice this is not i wrote

There is a feeling that the failure to meet the deadlines for fraud ...

[UAZ 452]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Yes, when they get drunk something ..... Their colleagues are already planting bundles, but they all can’t tear themselves away from the feeder! Zhor was stronger than the instinct of self-protection! Aw, Freud, what did you give us?

Are you sure that they plant really the most arrogant thieves? Let’s draw up the problem: there are two effective managers, one stole a million and spent, the second stole 10 million, but seven of them brought "who should." Question: which of them has a chance to sit higher?

[tolmachiev51]

... this is the whole question !!! -Money of Moscow did not "leave", but the culprit was appointed.

[APASUS]

So what?
Following the news should go that all accounts with finances are blocked in securing the lawsuit of the enterprise, all the property of the director and his relatives up to 7 knees are seized.
And so in 5 years he will come out not just a millionaire, but a billionaire!

[voyaka uh]

You can come up with the following headings:
"A billion rubles has been allocated for a new project ... super-something-there. The project director is expected to be arrested in two years for embezzlement and fraud. A new project director has not yet been appointed."

[Sauron80]

Then hang on the vacancy website: "The director is looking for a super duper-free analogue in the world with a project with a billion-dollar budget, work schedule 3 through 5 (3 work, 5 sit)"

[Eduard petrov]

I hope he will not be raped and will not break the spine in a pre-trial detention center, like Wheat. Something strange began to happen to the defense industry - techies under investigation, companies go bankrupt ... this does not strengthen the country's defense ...

[Slavs]

Interestingly, someday they will return the execution as a capital measure, with the confiscation of property and eviction of close relatives for the 101 kilometer?

[tank66]

Yes, I’m thinking it’s time, at least at the 102nd kilometer, to build a closed town. Once the Boshki are not cut like that, and they don’t use confiscation, let them live stupidly / not travel abroad / to the minimum cost of living and the mayor of Chubak.

[Slavs]

I'm afraid without execution we just get a new ruble at 102 km))) Only through the execution)

[Ace Tambourine]

I live on 113 km .. For May .... When will happiness wait?

[u1977020556]

The good news is, they all steal, it's time to start planting.

[Olegi1]

This is not just a theft. And the theft, which entailed the undermining of the defense of the state, which should be equated with treason. It is necessary to judge by this article.

[Baloo]

Oleg, do not rush to conclusions. Infa in Business on-line Kazan, perhaps it will change your and not only your opinion. Not so simple.

[vladasyar]

The first thought that comes to mind is that the design bureau is substituted so that we do not have a heavy UAV, raw materials (composite 1 kg = $ 200) for one airframe costs $ 2 million + work

[Ace Tambourine]

What ...? It turns out only the supporting structure 10t weighs? So what size is it then, with a soccer field?
1kg-200ue ... 2 yama cu -10 tons
What kind of composite is this ...? Doesn't carbolit for an hour?
So he is not worth such money!

[Olegi1]

Quote: Balu

Oleg, do not rush to conclusions. Infa in Business on-line Kazan, perhaps it will change your and not only your opinion. Not so simple.

My comment was based on the article and nothing more. I will not give up the idea of ​​how to judge for this. But the fact that not everything is simple here - I can assume that I have no data. If you have them - share it.

Slamming 900 lyam - looks suspicious, and hardly plausible. I judge by the example of Orion, which Kronstadt (formerly Transas) does. They gave them 3 billion. Well, they thought so. They ended about a couple of months before the product rolled for the first time on the runway. Not because someone sawed something there, but because they simply didn’t correctly calculate the labor costs for research and development work. I just know all the leaders, and we took part in this, in the honor of setting up software development processes.

So, nobody succeeds in calculating the new development with acceptable accuracy in aviation. Believe me, 20+ years of my experience. Neither we nor the Americans have such methods. What I just have not seen enough in my practice, which methods have not been applied - the topic for the article ... I am talking about a new development. We learned to count the support of a flying product with its modification (minor changes) with an accuracy of + -10%, moreover, I declare specifically that no one in the world except us can count :) Calculations are confirmed by the practice of 30+ projects, if anyone doubts .

[ver_]

Quote: Bad_Santa

This suspect by his actions undermined the country's defense. Here, even a conversation is not in the amount of damage, but in its severity for the country. Such must be imprisoned for life with the right to exit in 20 years. Those who stole from 1 billion - with the right to exit in 30 years. Those from 5 billion and above - without the right to exit. That would immediately Russia's GDP would show an increase of 10-20%

... you need easier and more efficient - complete confiscation of everything and * disposal of media * - for lack of life imprisonment ..

[Hurricane70]

Quote: Vladimir 5

The famous Vasilyeva is the cousin of Linnik, the wife of A. Medvedev, about which we are talking, the Panimash family contract ...

For all my "dislike" for DAM, I am a distributor of gossip and rumors!
De jure is not true. There are no official documents confirming the kinship of the wife of the Prime Minister and Ms. Vasilyeva in the public domain. As a result, we cannot talk about the consanguinity of these women - at the moment this is nothing more than rumors ...

[tolmachiev51]

"Look at the root" - Gomzin, the first time I heard about such money, from the prosecutor !!! Vasiliev and stools are everywhere, they live fatten and steal.

[Yuri isaev]

It's not about that. The punishment should provide for a full and guaranteed return of the stolen, wherever it is - in Russia or “beyond the hill”. Before returning the money, send the offender and his family (wife, children) together for forced labor: for example, to uranium mines or shock construction somewhere in the remote taiga. Upon the return of these funds, the family must be released, their status as a citizen and all property belonging to the criminal and the family reduced, confiscated up to the last cowards. If this is not done, then they will steal, for there will always be those who will do anything for the future of children.
In fact, it would be nice to create an independent financial and expert control over the movement of money (especially the transfer abroad) at all key enterprises of the country, especially at enterprises of military importance.

[Old26]

Quote: Monos

More recently, GDP talked about tougher penalties for crimes related to the execution of a defense order. There will be a show trial.

If this drone was part of the state defense order, there may be consequences in connection with the statements of the GDP. If not, an ordinary court. And there will be no show trial. It is not known who else is involved in this matter. And here is indicative? Here is a lot of "indicative" was in the trial of Ulyukaev. The media talked about this for the first week or two, but gradually everything calmed down and the fact that they gave him 8 years was a message literally in 2 lines

Quote: Bad_Santa

This suspect by his actions undermined the country's defense.

And where are the other dozens of types of drones about which every time they tried to tell on TV? Where is the same "SKAT" and dozens of others ... There is no article on the undermining of defense capability, others will find corruption, misuse of funds. But not undermining defense

[ZVS]

Under Stalin, he would definitely have been shone, since theft of money allocated
to create a new type of weaponry, it would be calculated as a sabotage.
And this one will serve three years and be released again to steal.

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Antidote

Chubais knows too much and enters the family; no one will touch him.

and many know about the Redline too!
Chubais scams
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[AlexanderVP]

Where is the money?

[bk316]

Galaxy,
I don’t hint, I will openly make a reservation that those who do not respect the government and pour dirt on it on the Internet will ALWAYS come either first or second. Although of course they can come not only to them. And it is right.

[bk316]

Anti-Corr.,

And if there are those who come to you
There will be those who come for you. "
So the earth is round .... "And Father Malchish went up to the wall, took off his rifle, threw his bag and put on a bandoleer. Well," says the eldest son, "I sowed the rye a lot, it’s obvious that you will have to remove a lot. Well he says Malchish, "I’ve lived a cool life ... and it’s good to live for me, you see, Malchish will have to. So he said, he kissed Malchish firmly and left."

Well, there are a lot of sofa marshals, but also a sofa Che ...