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Historical blunder Poroshenko. How the "Kiev" princes "recklessly" founded Moscow

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The President of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko, the day before, speaking before the Verkhovna Rada with statements about the need to create a single local church in the country, agreed to the point that he declared “rashness of the Kiev princes when deciding on the foundation of Moscow”. Apparently, according to Poroshenko himself, it sounded like a “sparkling” injection to Russia.


From the statement of the Ukrainian Supreme:
It was from Constantinople that the light of the Christian faith was poured on our blessed land (...) This was later we shared it with that Zales, where the ancient Kiev princes rashly founded Moscow.


Recall that earlier Poroshenko announced that Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople allegedly supported the idea of ​​giving the status of the canonical UOC of the Kyiv Patriarchate, which is not recognized anywhere in the world.

With his statement about the Kiev princes and "Zalesie" Poroshenko once again exposed the fact that he once skipped lessons stories. The founder of Moscow, Prince Yury Dolgoruky, was originally a Rostov-Suzdal prince, and only then became the Grand Duke of Kiev. Moscow was founded in 1147 year, Kiev Prince Yuri Dolgoruky became in 1149 year. Hello Poroshenko's "historian" ...



Surprisingly, Poroshenko did not call Yuri Dolgoruky "Ukrainian prince", as often happened when the current president of the Maidan from the podium spoke about his "vision of history" of Prince Vladimir. If Vladimir could find out that some “specialists” call him a Ukrainian prince in Kiev, he would at least be surprised ...

All of these blunders Poroshenko, of course, are associated with the task that he is trying to strictly fulfill - to tear Ukraine away from the community with Russia, in which it has been both geographically and spiritually for centuries. Also - to chop off the historical roots of a single Slavic state. US and NATO approve.
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  1. Sergey985
    Sergey985 April 20 2018 06: 30
    +2
    Not from the beginning. We must look for Ukrainian roots in Adam!
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 April 20 2018 06: 32
      +3
      Well, if they say that the human race came from the Ukrainians, then there is nothing surprising wassat . Petya is a peculiar person and also a lover of "bacchus" so anything can blurt out yes .
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 20 2018 06: 36
        +1
        There is another run over to Orthodoxy .. Waltzman received new training manuals hehe
        1. hrych
          hrych April 20 2018 06: 51
          +5
          Quote: MIKHAN
          another run over to Orthodoxy

          To understand the psychology of this person, it is enough to look at this painting in the temple laughing

          It’s not even called megalomania, here is a megalomania of such a universal scale. The old woman in the Goldfish, although limited to the mistress of the sea, climbed into heaven, which would certainly be accomplished by hanging or cirrhosis wassat
          1. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov April 20 2018 07: 56
            +1
            Quote: hrych
            It’s not even called megalomania, here is a megalomania of such universal scale

            Yeah ... This is a diagnosis! laughing For a long time, Valtsman will be remembered by Ukraine and Russia!
            1. The black
              The black April 20 2018 08: 20
              +3
              Alcohol is not a sport for weak people; and only with everyday grueling workouts can we achieve the result that Petsyunder Sumersky demonstrates wassat
          2. Lexa-149
            Lexa-149 April 21 2018 15: 06
            +1
            Eh ... Hurry ...
        2. Separ DNR
          Separ DNR April 20 2018 06: 51
          +6
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Waltzman received new manuals

          Not at all new ... But all the same "TSU", long received from Washington and other Brussels, with the implementation of which the pedro does not go well.
          And the deadlines expire, customers are nervous. And already prose hint: Petya, change!

          That hustles, hog.
    2. 22 dmdc
      22 dmdc April 20 2018 06: 49
      +2
      But Adam and Waltzman are not of the same blood?
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis April 20 2018 07: 28
        +7
        Waltzman is a relative of Judah ... a conscript ...
    3. evil partisan
      evil partisan April 20 2018 07: 41
      +1
      Quote: Sergey985
      Not from the beginning. We must look for Ukrainian roots in Adam!

      And I would try to look for the same roots in dinosaurs ... what
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack April 20 2018 07: 43
        +2
        Quote: wicked partisan
        Quote: Sergey985
        Not from the beginning. We must look for Ukrainian roots in Adam!

        And I would try to look for the same roots in dinosaurs ... what

        I propose to start with ciliates, slippers. Find exactly yes
        1. Sergey985
          Sergey985 April 20 2018 08: 42
          +1
          In vain you wrote it! Now there will be a message that the ancient Ukrainians, as a result of scientific research, removed these ciliates, and the Ukrainian shoe factory made shoes!
      2. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR April 20 2018 09: 25
        +3
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        And I would try to look for the same roots in dinosaurs ...

        I’m sure you will find yes The volume of the brain and brain in the priest.
    4. Vend
      Vend April 20 2018 08: 43
      +1
      Quote: Sergey985
      Not from the beginning. We must look for Ukrainian roots in Adam!

      Adam has Jewish roots .. Ukraine is plunging deeper into insanity, no longer surprised at anything.
  2. Dimy4
    Dimy4 April 20 2018 06: 32
    +3
    He was recklessly patched up by his folder with his mother!
    1. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah April 20 2018 06: 37
      +4
      At that time he would have been imposed on a stake for such words and deeds. He would have sat and poked his eyes at the gates of the same Kiev. He knows that he will not be anything like all his thief, that’s why they’re cast out.
      1. Mooh
        Mooh April 20 2018 07: 17
        +1
        Quote: Mar. Tira
        .Know that he will not be anything like his whole thief, and they are expelled.

        You know, on the contrary, there’s almost nothing to lose, and that’s a disease.
        1. Mar.Tirah
          Mar.Tirah April 20 2018 07: 46
          0
          Greetings to Andrey. I think on the contrary, he has a lot to lose. And then Avakov got on his tail, is torn to power. Here he clings to everything that he can grab. Such a grip. Bourgeois-Khokhlyat. To the grave with you wants to pick up the loot.
    2. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch April 20 2018 08: 17
      0
      Quote: Dimy4
      He was recklessly patched up by his folder with his mother!

      I’m drunk, I suppose.
      Bite off hard water, and then wonder where the vile insects come out from.
  3. Ravik
    Ravik April 20 2018 06: 32
    0
    Here are the poor fellows. Forgot Petya to ask ...
  4. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 April 20 2018 06: 36
    +2
    In order for the ukronazists to rewrite the history of Russia from the Anglo-Saxons and enter the quasi-state "Ukraine" into it, we must first get rid of a strong Russia, and with this they break their teeth.
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit April 20 2018 07: 27
      +1
      Quote: Alex-a832
      To ukronazistsov with the filing of the Anglo-Saxons rewrite the history of Russia

      You forget that in every small “state”, there is a different interpretation of history. Moreover, the smaller and newer the country, the more “ancient and heroic” history they invent for themselves. lol Read Western history books, learn a lot. For example, that the Soviet Union has little to do with victory in the Second World War. And so on, point by point.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 20 2018 07: 38
        +4
        The complex of petty and petty significance!
        Nothing new, if they could have spoiled our country so much, nobody would have noticed dill!
        The state of Georgia has settled in the margins of politics and news. therefore ka us naf to put on them!
        Hi soldier Alex
        1. Alex-a832
          Alex-a832 April 20 2018 11: 06
          +1
          Hi Victor hi
          Unlike just the small states - the landlords, which suffer from an inferiority complex, this misunderstanding under the name "Ukraine" is located on our original lands with some fright. We don’t need someone else’s, but we won’t forget about our own ... And the false history that the ukronatsiks invent so wretchedly that it will be difficult to keep it long enough for the original story to be forgotten.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 20 2018 12: 47
            +3
            Brothers .... I just want to say, rabbits, but probably all Slavs, Christian brothers, and indeed we have gone through so much together! Why the geyropa surrendered to you, it’s not smeared with honey there and any prosperity was obtained for very hard work !!! Not a ride for free!
            Well, raguli is understandable, the brain is not particularly present there, but the southeastern, Russian part should have thought .... all went to the same school and for a quarter of a century it is impossible to destroy all knowledge !!!
            I don’t understand how you could buy a liver ???
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 20 2018 06: 37
    +3
    It’s bad when you don’t know the story, but you make loud statements every time you sit down in a puddle. Even worse, when the brains are saturated to the ground and in addition fixated on Russophobia. And this one and the other.
    1. Your honor
      Your honor April 20 2018 06: 42
      0
      Both that and another and in the hardest form and an advanced stage.
  6. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch April 20 2018 06: 38
    +3
    What the hell, am I already confused, these proto-Aztecs or archychomers?
  7. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 April 20 2018 06: 39
    +2
    Somewhere I saw a dill trainer that Rurik was also a prince of Kiev, although he did not appear in those places ...
    1. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR April 20 2018 07: 30
      +2
      Quote: Metallurg_2
      Somewhere I saw a dill trainer that Rurik was also a prince of Kiev, although he did not appear in those places ...

      It is true that Rurik reigned in Novgorod, and only after his death in 879, under the guardianship of his successor Oleg, the young son Igor arrived in Kiev, where at that time the former warriors of Rurik, Askold and Deer ruled.
      Oleg had to eliminate competitors ...
      “You are not princes or princes,” Oleg told them and added, pointing to the little Igor who was sitting next to him, “and here is Rurik’s son.”

      Oleg’s warriors killed Askold and Dir. They were buried on the banks of the Dnieper on the mountain (until now, one coastal mountain near Kiev is called the Askold grave). And the people of Kiev obeyed the authority of Oleg, who united all Russia into one state, except for the Vyatichi tribe subordinate to the Khazars.
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch April 20 2018 07: 45
        +1
        [quote = Separ DPR] Oleg had to eliminate competitors ... [/ quote
        It seems that Sveneld was still ... But it seems that all this nonsense is pretty, about Rurik. They stole the History from us. As an example, the simplest - if the Mongol-Tatars in Russia have been unlimited for 300 years, why aren't we narrow-eyed? The genotype is something dominant in them. request
        1. Separ DNR
          Separ DNR April 20 2018 08: 14
          +3
          Quote: iliitch
          As an example, the simplest - if the Mongol-Tatars in Russia have been unlimited for 300 years, why aren't we narrow-eyed?

          Yes, because the Tatars in Russia were only raids, not gaining ground in the territories.
          We did not set ourselves such a goal. The women, of course, were spoiled, but not so massively that it somehow manifested itself in the guise of a modern Russian.
          And the Tatars took especially attracted girls and women with them, and in the Horde (not in Russia) they became slaves, concubines, wives of the Horde.
          There is THERE in the Horde, and the quick-eyed ones were born ...
          1. iliitchitch
            iliitchitch April 20 2018 09: 53
            0
            Quote: Separ DNR
            Yes, because the Tatars in Russia were only raids, not gaining ground in the territories.

            Genghis Khan tarted at the root, in fact, the Bulgars are now called Tatars. It is, lyre retreat. Losing sight of the "dominant genotype," colleague. One horde raid would be enough for us to squint.
            This I bring to anti-scientific history that two Indo-European branches of 300 years fought.
  8. inkass_98
    inkass_98 April 20 2018 06: 40
    +1
    Vladimir would not have been strangled. He would, according to the existing tradition, strangle such clever men who confuse Novgorod princes with small-local aborigines. Or he would have let him go by tying the preliminaries to two horses (as an option - to two tree tops).
  9. PalBor
    PalBor April 20 2018 06: 47
    +5
    But the Ruriks and Olegovskie warriors seem to have cleared the Khazars from the Kiev region, look, they are again in power.
  10. ver_
    ver_ April 20 2018 07: 05
    0
    Quote: Metallurg_2
    Somewhere I saw a dill trainer that Rurik was also a prince of Kiev, although he did not appear in those places ...

    ..Kiev prince was Vladimir - the Red Sun ..., he didn’t shorten his tail in Troy by the head, and relatives of Andrei - Prince Bogolyubsky were crucified on the cross - relatives ..
  11. alex aircraft
    alex aircraft April 20 2018 07: 05
    +5
    Why did Moscow recognize the election of this scum? Why is it still not forbidden to enter the heroes of the atom in Russia? Why are the fuel and lubricants coming from the Russian Federation to refuel ukroarmiya equipment? Or money does not smell ???
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch April 20 2018 10: 01
      0
      Quote: Alex aircraft
      Why did Moscow recognize the election of this scum? Why is it still not forbidden to enter the heroes of the atom in Russia? Why are the fuel and lubricants coming from the Russian Federation to refuel ukroarmiya equipment? Or money does not smell ???

      Why did the Ukrainians allow this? Damn, am I, perhaps, a Russian Tatar, for your head should think ???
      nezalezhnosti-independence, maidan-shmaydan-tires-pies - eat with a full hat, grunt, flew in, or something, damn you, the independence of your liver.
  12. Moskovit
    Moskovit April 20 2018 07: 21
    +1
    Someone recklessly shared a moonshine recipe with Poroshenko. So it carries him farther and farther from the light, from faith and common sense.
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch April 20 2018 10: 35
      0
      Quote: Moskovit
      Someone recklessly shared a moonshine recipe with Poroshenko. So it carries him farther and farther from the light, from faith and common sense.

      "..From faith ..", um, what kind of faith does this ghoul have?
      Than hackers to elect some US presidents, it would be better if the accounts of this goat were reset. Everyone benefits unequivocally.
  13. Orionvit
    Orionvit April 20 2018 07: 22
    +1
    Ukraine from that community with Russia, in which it consisted both territorially and spiritually for centuries.
    What centuries? There has always been only Russia, and about a concept such as "Ukraine," a hundred years ago, no one had even heard a rumor. Is that the Polish slaves in Lviv.
  14. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov April 20 2018 07: 39
    +3
    Still, I would not giggle at Poroshenko. Poroshenko can scoff at Russia as much as he is allowed. The history of Crimean fishermen confirms this. We played with good parents who endure, think - he will go crazy. Will not go too far. The patience of GDP is an invitation to strengthen rudeness. Sometimes it seems that our president has lost touch with the outside world, just toadies create a comfortable environment around him, where there is no room for grief, and there are only children who show him funny robots. which they made themselves.
    1. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR April 20 2018 09: 31
      +1
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      Sometimes it seems that our president has lost touch with the outside world, just toadies create a comfortable environment around him, where there is no room for grief, and there are only children who show him funny robots. which they made themselves.

      Well, again: the Tsar is good, the boyars are scoundrels ...
    2. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch April 20 2018 13: 37
      0
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      Sometimes it seems that our president has lost touch with the outside world,

      Not yet . Monsters, such as Primakov, are leaving the “synclite of cardinals” in Russia. Change is anyway thinner, hence the vagueness in politics. All this is alarming. On the other hand, when was it not alarming? Normal flight
  15. Storming the Washington
    Storming the Washington April 20 2018 07: 39
    +1
    Yuri Long-armed was half Anglo-Saxon by mum_y founded Moscow
  16. taiga2018
    taiga2018 April 20 2018 07: 45
    +2
    Poroshenko could still rephrase the words of the poet Homeless from "The Master and Margarita": to take these Kiev princes and for the "foundation" of Moscow for three years in Solovki ... "
  17. Lerych
    Lerych April 20 2018 07: 56
    +1
    In Africa, Swaziland was renamed. Porosh, the same thing, historical justice must be restored: rename Ukraine to Initialina. And then everything is at the edge, but at the edge of something ... And so at the beginning of everything would become!%))
  18. gukoyan
    gukoyan April 20 2018 08: 18
    0
    Oh yes there ... Hohlopiteki created the planet Earth, and only then the oaths of Muscovites came and occupied it ...
  19. jncnfdybr
    jncnfdybr April 20 2018 08: 25
    0
    So the whole human race went From the Ukrainians. laughing
  20. nafanal
    nafanal April 20 2018 08: 30
    0
    And what is the difference between the creator of the New Chronology, Academician Anatoly Fomenko from Prezik Poroshenko? All the ravings of powdered consequences of chronic alcoholism
  21. gorefest7777
    gorefest7777 April 20 2018 09: 13
    0
    actually Moscow Prophetic Oleg founded, and he was clearly not the Prince of Kiev .... teach materiel comrade Poroshenko ....
  22. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova April 20 2018 09: 25
    0
    Quote: Alex aircraft
    why fuels and lubricants go from the Russian Federation to refuel ukroarmiya equipment

    Rather, supplies of fuels and lubricants just go. And where their part is spent is not the supplier’s business anymore. Russia is not yet at war with Ukraine. Unlike ... And then, - deliveries will still be replaced with others, if they stop.
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 April 20 2018 12: 54
      0
      Naturally, Belarus will gladly replace Russian fuel and lubricants supplies to Ukraine.
  23. Dormidont
    Dormidont April 20 2018 09: 27
    0
    Waltzman is not required to know Russian history
  24. Bare
    Bare April 20 2018 11: 01
    +1
    Poroshenko from Satan. Will be tried. negative
  25. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 April 21 2018 15: 05
    +1
    Something he did not say that Yuri Dolgoruky was killed in Kiev by the boyars!
  26. Nikolay Kuznetsov
    Nikolay Kuznetsov April 21 2018 18: 50
    0
    The great historian researcher, a descendant of Sumer and Moses (Jews forgive me), a sea digger and the conqueror of the galaxies Petro Poroshenko a little increased the usual dose dropped by Moscow ...... and ... regretted. Looked at him and sent a kick to where? Prala! In Zalesye .. And I was there, honey, drinking beer, I saw Petka flying, I didn’t have time to catch, he hurried in a hurry ...