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US Department of State - Turkey: Buy C-400 from Russians, get sanctions!

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US Assistant Secretary of State Wess Mitchell said today that Turkey may be subject to sanctions if it completes the deal to acquire Russian C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems from Russia. According to Mitchell, the sanctions will affect Ankara in the framework of the so-called CAATSA project - a document, including banning transactions with the Russian Federation for the purchase of arms.


US Department of State - Turkey: Buy C-400 from Russians, get sanctions!


The same US State Department official said that the acquisition of the C-400 air defense system from Russia “will serve as an obstacle for Turkey’s participation in the program to acquire the fifth-generation F-35 fighter”. Recall that the Turks are trying to simultaneously acquire C-400 from Russia and F-35 from the United States.

It is noteworthy that just the day before, the White House stated that they did not object to the acquisition of anti-aircraft missile systems from Ankara from Russia. Now there they also remembered that they themselves had imposed restrictive measures on arms deals with Russia.

By the way, the State Department also commented on the events in Syria. The ministry said they did not seek confrontation with Moscow in the SAR, but "if necessary, they are ready for the use of force." Strength against whom?
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  1. Irokez
    Irokez April 18 2018 17: 46
    +9
    This terrible word is SANCTIONS.
    We are only developing from them, but I don’t know how the Turks are. Let's take a look.
    1. Logall
      Logall April 18 2018 17: 49
      +13
      Our sanctions are worse for them (the Turks)! But ours will not play it ... They will again bleat that the United States interferes with the trade of sovereign states.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 18 2018 17: 53
        +4
        Quote: Logall
        Our sanctions are worse for them (the Turks)!

        Why not get hooked on this
        igloo NATO country? And make money and master a new market and in case of conflict have a trump card in the sleeve ...
        1. jjj
          jjj April 18 2018 18: 34
          +3
          And look what argument the United States is proposing: for Dogo, so that America does not oblige to buy F-35 from them, you can buy C-400, well, or C-300 in Russia
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS April 18 2018 18: 36
            +4
            Quote: jjj
            And look what argument the United States is proposing: for Dogo, so that America does not oblige to buy F-35 from them, you can buy C-400, well, or C-300 in Russia

            Well, either "get married" or I'll find another groom ... hi Such, commercial prostitution.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 April 18 2018 20: 45
              +7
              Gentlemen! What are you talking about? I beg of you. laughing
              S-400 shoots down NATO planes. That is why the Turks buy them. Patriots do not shoot down NATO planes, and they are useless for the Turks. Obviously. Etdoan will never forget how he asked Merkel for asylum, but she refused. And the Turks blocked the base in Inzherlik and cut off the electricity for a reason. They knew for sure that NATO was involved in the coup attempt.
              They will say whatever they want in order to get less on the neck here and now, and they will buy the S-400. No options. hi
              1. Sergey985
                Sergey985 April 19 2018 06: 53
                0
                The US cannot allow our complexes and F35 to be in Turkey at the same time. Immediately, all the insolvency of the aircraft will come out. So much money has been invested in a PR company, everything will collapse.
                1. just exp
                  just exp April 19 2018 07: 26
                  0
                  let them buy Fu-35, maybe let our specialists dig deeper into it.
                2. Alex777
                  Alex777 April 19 2018 10: 15
                  +1
                  I don't think it's about the F-35's problems. The Yankees are confident that Turkey dreams of these F-35s. Why is not clear. And in another way they can not do anything to Turkey. Absolutely. hi
    2. Hire
      Hire April 18 2018 17: 49
      +10
      Turkey could come under sanctions if it completes a deal to acquire Russian S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems from Russia.

      So let's see what kind of Sultan Erdogan is. smile
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 April 19 2018 08: 45
        0
        The American general has already stated about the harm of these sanctions for America.
        "Will we really be able to impose sanctions against those who buy Russian weapons? This will ruin our relations and give these countries to the Russians completely!"
        So everyone is looking at the first one against whom the sanctions will be introduced and what they will be. And the Americans have zugzwang. bully
    3. Zubr
      Zubr April 18 2018 17: 55
      +6
      Turkey will leave NATO, and we will accept it in the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), but only after the purchase from the striped f35. We need to investigate it properly.
      1. lekalpan
        lekalpan April 18 2018 23: 14
        +1
        Who on *** needs this flying coffin and investigate it?
        1. just exp
          just exp April 19 2018 07: 27
          +2
          Well, first of all, the fact that not the best (but not the worst) flight characteristics does not mean that the plane itself is bad. the electronics are top notch.
          and we would need to know both the real EPR and the electronics for vulnerability to electronic warfare.
    4. Bronevick
      Bronevick April 18 2018 18: 29
      +2
      In what areas is development going? And when can you already feel it on yourself?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 18 2018 20: 05
        +1
        This is how you will work in these areas - and you will feel it.
    5. Terenin
      Terenin April 18 2018 18: 31
      +7
      Quote: Irokez
      but how the Turks do not know. Let's take a look.

      To be honest, I, too, cannot understand Erdogan's policy. I am more inclined - "we will dance for both ours and yours!" yes Am I wrong? request
      1. shirkoled
        shirkoled April 18 2018 19: 05
        +1
        Right, oh, how right !!!
      2. dSK
        dSK April 18 2018 19: 39
        +1
        Quote: Terenin
        "and ours and yours will dance for a nickle!"

        I hope that the delivery of the S-400 will be disrupted. For reasons beyond our control, in order not to pay possible fines to Turkey.
      3. Alexander Ermakov
        Alexander Ermakov April 19 2018 05: 23
        +2
        and I have such an opinion! tricky ass!
    6. Svarog
      Svarog April 18 2018 18: 34
      +3
      Quote: Irokez
      This terrible word is SANCTIONS.
      We are only developing from them, but I don’t know how the Turks are. Let's take a look.

      It would be more correct that we do not develop with sanctions, not without them laughing
      1. Baby sitter
        Baby sitter April 18 2018 19: 33
        +1
        I agree. We are in .op. The mustache is gone. Putin leaked ...
      2. Russia
        Russia April 18 2018 19: 58
        +4
        If the next cartoons show, then in some way we are still developing. laughing
        1. Svarog
          Svarog April 18 2018 20: 10
          +4
          Quote: Rusland
          If the next cartoons show, then in some way we are still developing. laughing

          Well, to be absolutely precise, we are developing in the direction of hanging noodles to fellow citizens, we have succeeded here. laughing
          1. Russia
            Russia April 18 2018 20: 22
            +4
            Well, yes, no one canceled the belief in a good king, and the bright future has always attracted us smilelike a raspberry berry laughing
    7. Evgeny Goncharov
      Evgeny Goncharov April 18 2018 22: 56
      +1
      Remind me how many years in a row the Russian economy has been growing slower than the world average? Is this development?
      1. Terenin
        Terenin April 19 2018 06: 52
        +5
        Quote: Evgeny Goncharov
        Remind me how many years in a row the Russian economy has been growing slower than the world average? Is this development?

        It is desirable, if they said "A", according to the logic, they should also say "B" (the reason for the slow development). I just didn’t see that someone at the forum from compatriots would stand up for the unprofessional activities of the government’s economic bloc.
        1. Evgeny Goncharov
          Evgeny Goncharov April 20 2018 17: 39
          +1
          I personally don't have enough fingers for all the reasons. According to various estimates, the sanctions themselves cost the Russian Federation 0,25-0,75 pp of growth per year.
          1. Terenin
            Terenin April 20 2018 20: 44
            +5
            Quote: Evgeny Goncharov
            I personally don't have enough fingers for all the reasons. According to various estimates, the sanctions themselves cost the Russian Federation 0,25-0,75 pp of growth per year.

            Thanks, at least for some numbers. yes
  2. NEXUS
    NEXUS April 18 2018 17: 49
    +12
    Sanctioned mattresses, like a middle-aged fat woman with acne and menopause ... all about the same at any time of the day or night.
    1. Opera
      Opera April 18 2018 18: 24
      +11
      This is real democracy !!! Human rights, an independent court and a bunch of all kinds of freedoms! Hail on a hill!))))))) And most importantly, fair competition and market relations!))) I really want to add a few expressions for the colorful vocabulary and phraseological phrases, but censorship will not let you through! I'll try the US -..., together with their ... democracy and all ... countries, ..., ... of the civilized ... world, with pi ... (forgive me, jumped out) from the EU are bad people! In general, I'm sorry for the bland presentation. You can't throw words out of a song!
  3. Zubr
    Zubr April 18 2018 17: 51
    +1
    laughing Two in the sandbox had a fight over a bucket with a spatula .. smile
    1. Heterocapsa
      Heterocapsa April 18 2018 17: 54
      +1
      What are you !? S-400 and F-35 is a bucket with a shovel ?! wassat
    2. Herculesic
      Herculesic April 18 2018 17: 55
      +10
      And the third took both the bucket and the lotapa, and peed in the sand! !!! lol
  4. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 18 2018 17: 53
    +2
    A cucumber is good with vodka.
    Under the C400, the F35 will go for a sweet soul.
    The choice is obvious.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 April 19 2018 01: 26
      +1
      Quote: Livonetc
      A cucumber is good with vodka.
      Under the C400, the F35 will go for a sweet soul.

      Penguin choking on a cucumber. wassat
    2. Babur_Imperat
      Babur_Imperat April 19 2018 16: 42
      0
      Turkey will get both just America wants to warm up Russia so that it can quickly supply the rest of the whole performance with this weapon.
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic April 18 2018 17: 54
    +3
    And if they buy a Patriot bullshit, they will show themselves not clever spenders! fool A miser pays twice - if they don't buy now, tomorrow they will come running for С400! !!
  6. impostor
    impostor April 18 2018 17: 56
    +1
    According to ex-FBI director James Comey, the reputation of the red-haired cowboy has an indelible stain in the form of urine from Russian (and here the geography is unpredictable) prostitutes.
  7. prapor75m
    prapor75m April 18 2018 17: 59
    +3
    if they don't buy it, it will be better, this is not reliable Erdogan and the policy of Turkey, both ours and yours, and will give 100% NATO members to get acquainted with the system, but Iran will buy them with pleasure, so they will not be lost wink
  8. Ron
    Ron April 18 2018 18: 10
    +5
    Many are mistaken about the terms. These are not sanctions, but stupidly unfair competition! Sanctions can be imposed by the UN, not some country with a bunch of syavs singing along in violation of all WTO rules. I don’t understand why our authorities are not raising this issue ..
    1. shirkoled
      shirkoled April 18 2018 19: 08
      0
      We are waiting for the inauguration !!!
  9. NIKNN
    NIKNN April 18 2018 18: 11
    +2
    US Department of State - Turkey: Buy C-400 from Russians, get sanctions!
    As it is not presentable, you should have taken 2 patriots, the third as a gift .... Moreover, they dragged the F-35, where would they (F-35) put them? Well, this is of course tough blackmail, Turkey has already invested in the development of this device, such as past obligations are fucked up, the money was yours, it became ours ... do not click the bread machine. This is the partnership ...
  10. Russia
    Russia April 18 2018 18: 12
    +9
    Sweethearts scold - only amuse themselves smile
    - Why are your dishes broken?
    - They swore!
    - Why is the sofa broken?
    - Put up. smile
  11. Ron
    Ron April 18 2018 18: 13
    +1
    Quote: prapor75m
    if they don't buy it, it will be better, this is not reliable Erdogan and the policy of Turkey, both ours and yours, and will give 100% NATO members to get acquainted with the system, but Iran will buy them with pleasure, so they will not be lost wink
    and Syria will buy with pleasure
  12. konstantin68
    konstantin68 April 18 2018 18: 15
    +3
    Well, actually, this should have ended. Democracy, sir!
  13. Separ DNR
    Separ DNR April 18 2018 18: 15
    +7
    Quote: Logall
    They will bleat again that the USA ...

    In nature bleating ...
    Here I watched NTV, the announcement of the news release, and there: "Russian diplomats, despite all their efforts, are unable to get Ukraine to return the detained crew of the" Nord "
    And the Russian representative to the UN (!!!) calls the American attack on Syria HOULIGANITY belay ...

    Be-e-e-e, or whatever me-e-e-e. Ugh, in general.
    1. shirkoled
      shirkoled April 18 2018 19: 10
      +3
      Blah blah blah liberals from the 5th column under the control of an iPhone !!!
  14. Yak28
    Yak28 April 18 2018 18: 19
    +2
    If the Turks threaten the states with withdrawal from NATO, the Americans will make any concessions to the Turks, they will humor them in full. If any country leaves NATO, this will cause an irreversible chain reaction wink
    1. Terenin
      Terenin April 18 2018 18: 37
      +8
      Quote: Yak28
      If the Turks threaten the states with withdrawal from NATO, the Americans will make any concessions to the Turks,

      Yeah, the United States has already once made "concessions" to Turkey, when a military helicopter took off from their base with the coups on board to shoot Erdogan. And even in this case (much worse), I don’t remember Turkey’s statements about its withdrawal from NATO. The fantasy ended after five minutes of abuse at the United States.
  15. Lesorub
    Lesorub April 18 2018 18: 28
    +1
    Recall that the Turks are trying to simultaneously acquire the S-400 from Russia and the F-35 from the United States.

    If the Turks succeed, they will be armed with both - if they do not give weakness to the States.
  16. kefan
    kefan April 18 2018 18: 32
    +1
    Well, this nation is nasty all the same - mattress toppers, no one has peace from them. Who gave them the right to impose any restrictions (sanctions) in relation to entire countries and peoples?
    1. Russia
      Russia April 18 2018 18: 47
      +3
      The whole world piled up and gave, each depending on his capabilities and abilities. Now we are reaping. But seriously, everything is according to Karkal Markal and L. in addition. hi
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 18 2018 19: 19
      +1
      Quote: kefan
      Well, this nation is nasty all the same - mattress toppers, no one has peace from them. Who gave them the right to impose any restrictions (sanctions) in relation to entire countries and peoples?

      They arrived called. The right of the strong. If Russia had such an economy, it would also bend everyone by the economic method for itself.

      And Turkey will have to abandon the S-400 if the United States and Europeans seriously take on it in terms of economic sanctions. The main market for the goods is Europe for Turkey. And if it closes this screw, plus investments, plus their lira, so it is in a storm. will have to.
      Do not confuse it with the Russian Federation, which possesses huge natural resources of almost any category. How not to give up Russian gas and oil. And Russia understands perfectly well that these resources will reluctantly buy from it and the Europeans understand that they are forced to buy.
      And you can stop buying Buses, electrical equipment, ships, etc. from Turkey. Turkey for these positions in the top in Europe. And she will have nowhere to go. 145 million. Russia, if she wants to, will not be able to replace the 750 million European market.
  17. Yujanin
    Yujanin April 18 2018 18: 34
    +3
    the acquisition from Russia of the S-400 air defense system "will serve as an obstacle for Turkey's participation in the F-35 fifth generation fighter acquisition program»

    Reminds of the program for Turkey's accession to the European Union, a member of which has been prevented from joining the EU for over 60 years.
  18. taiga2018
    taiga2018 April 18 2018 18: 37
    +3
    It's funny when, on various talk shows, foreign "experts" begin to laugh, they say, Russia has no real, loyal allies, unlike the United States ... you know, in the event of a big war, all these US allies, who are kept only by all kinds of economic blackmail, will start the first to run away from such a "friend" as in the years of the Second World War, as Nazi Germany was defeated, the satellite allies fled from it ...
  19. Alex20042004
    Alex20042004 April 18 2018 18: 39
    0
    Quote: Bronevick
    In what areas is development going? And when can you already feel it on yourself?


    If you sit in one place and eat the last crap with salt, then, of course, you will never feel it.
  20. Apollo
    Apollo April 18 2018 18: 39
    +2
    Let's wait, it won't be long ...
  21. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich April 18 2018 18: 45
    +1
    "- But they won't take it - we will turn off the gas" wassat
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 18 2018 19: 13
      +1
      Quote: Rurikovich
      And they will not take it - turn off the gas

      and where will you sell this gas ???
      Turkey is actually the second largest buyer of Russian gas.
      Germany 53.44
      Turkey 29.3
      Italy 24.
      It would be difficult to turn off 30 billion cubic meters of gas.
      This is not Ukraine, which, whatever one may say, will have to buy Russian gas. Turkey is next to the world exporters of oil and gas.
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich April 18 2018 19: 52
        +1
        Quote: Yeraz
        and where will you sell this gas ???

        Do you distinguish sarcasm? wink
        The phrase I used was cited as a parallel with "Buy S-400 - we will introduce sanctions" winked
      2. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR April 18 2018 20: 31
        +2
        Quote: Yeraz
        and where will you sell this gas ???
        Turkey is actually the second largest buyer of Russian gas.

        Well ... China is on its way ...
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 18 2018 20: 49
          +2
          Quote: Separ DNR
          Well ... China is on its way ...

          Well-o-o ... Everything is not so rosy there ...

          So far, Russia and China have one signed gas contract for 38 billion cubic meters through the Power of Siberia pipeline, in which Gazprom intends to invest 1,5 trillion rubles.
          Initially, deliveries were planned to begin in 2018, then postponed to 2019. At the same time, the volumes may be cut, according to Reuters sources: after the fall in oil prices (to which the price of gas in the contracts is tied), Power of Siberia became unprofitable.
          "The gas price in the Asia-Pacific region has more than doubled - from about $ 600 in 2014 to $ 270 per thousand cubic meters at present.... This is not the price for which the project was originally calculated, "explains Vasily Bogoyavlensky, deputy director of the Institute of Oil and Gas Problems of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
          Currently, China consumes about 200 billion cubic meters of gas per year, the bulk of it - about 130 billion cubic meters - is produced in the country. The remainder is imported from Turkmenistan (65 billion cubic meters last year).
          The plan for the development of the gas industry, published in January by the PRC Energy Administration, suggests a 76% increase in consumption to 347 billion cubic meters in the next 15 years. However, China intends to produce almost all of the additional gas on its own.
          Domestic production in China is planned to increase by 60%, to 220 billion cubic meters, of which 30 billion cubic meters is shale gas, the deposits of which began to be developed in 2016 with the help of the British-Dutch concern BP.
          Therefore, you will not be able to wave the gas pipe.
          I'm not even talking about the Turkish Stream, which Russia needs in the first place, and not Turkey.
  22. Awaz
    Awaz April 18 2018 18: 49
    +1
    Today on Yu Tube I saw a video about the Syrian air defense. As I understand it is a report of their local TV. Well, the technique is different and the old systems are shown there, and even the Pantsir rolls around in the frame all the time. But I noticed that one picture on the monitor shows the area controlled by the radar .. As I understand it, this is a decent piece of the Syrian coast, if not the whole .. That is, the Syrians have something to control and shoot down, I think they already have the territory of Israel should monitor and prevent nasty things from there .. In general, everything looks decent
  23. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 18 2018 18: 51
    +1
    And buy from amers "petyriots" get rubbish that can break into your household. hi
  24. shirkoled
    shirkoled April 18 2018 19: 00
    0
    The Yankees rush at everyone who supports at least some kind of relationship with RUSSIA !!!
    But GLORY TO GOD RUSSIA is squeezing amers from the leading positions on our ball !!!
    1. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR April 18 2018 19: 14
      +2
      Quote: shirkoled
      But GLORY TO GOD RUSSIA is squeezing amers from the leading positions on our ball !!!

      A hasty statement yes ... I would say that the rivals came together in a clinch ...
  25. Prisoner
    Prisoner April 18 2018 19: 04
    0
    To what extent are the Turks interested in purchasing the F-35? Could this Mitchell threat, on the contrary, strengthen Erodogan's decision to acquire the S-400? After all, then, firstly, he will reliably protect his sky, and secondly, there will be no need to spend money on these aircraft. winked
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 18 2018 20: 53
      +1
      Quote: Captive
      To what extent are the Turks interested in purchasing the F-35?

      If you want to be a strong power you need it. This is FUU-35 in the F-35 ax, but not in the rest of the world.
      And besides ...

      If Washington refuses to supply Turkey with F-35s or Ankara withdraws from the program to create a fifth-generation multipurpose fighter-bomber worth about 400 billion US dollars, billions of dollars will be damaged.

      Turkey has been one of the nine main participants in the F35 development program from the very beginning. According to the contract, Turkey is to receive 120 F35 fighter-bombers.

      At the same time, Turkey is producing one of the most important parts of the F35 design, and it will be used in the assembly of all 3100 aircraft that program participants plan to purchase.

      In addition, Turkey has committed itself to the maintenance and installation of F-35 engines. All this reduces the likelihood that the United States can exclude Ankara from the program.

      If Washington decides to continue implementing the program without Ankara, then, according to some estimates, the burden on program partners will grow by more than 12 billions of dollars. And this despite the fact that the implementation of the program and so causes great controversy in the United States.

      Given the technical support provided by Turkish companies to the program, Ankara's withdrawal from the program will affect the implementation of the project from a technological point of view.
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  27. A.
    A. April 18 2018 19: 44
    0
    Quote: Irokez
    This terrible word is SANCTIONS.
    We are only developing from them, but I don’t know how the Turks are. Let's take a look.

    It is sad that we are developing from sanctions, and not thanks to the professionalism of Medvedev's lawyer.
  28. Boyar
    Boyar April 18 2018 19: 52
    0
    In vain are they teasing Erdogash.
  29. XXXIII
    XXXIII April 18 2018 20: 02
    +1
    US Department of State - Turkey: Buy C-400 from Russians, get sanctions!
    Erdogan is just waiting for this, his rating will be raised for free, his power in the region and in national security issues will be strengthened even more ... laughing And Turkey's air defense is weak, the Sultan will not tolerate the weakness of his army, the Syrians showed our old air defense models in Syria ... fellow
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 18 2018 20: 57
      +2
      Quote: XXXIII
      And Turkey's air defense is weak,

      to say the least.
      Quote: XXXIII
      Erdogan is just waiting for this, his rating will be raised for free, and his power in the region and in national security issues will be strengthened even more.

      Erdogan announced early presidential and parliamentary elections, and Ilham Aliyev has also postponed the elections from October to April and has already won.
      In the region, something is planned.
      Quote: XXXIII
      Our ads for the old air defense model were shown by the Syrians back in Syria ..

      By the way, Turkish media more broadcasted the Russian version about the shooting down of 71st out of 103.
      1. Babur_Imperat
        Babur_Imperat April 19 2018 16: 54
        0
        They are not afraid of anyone, therefore they do not have air defense; weak countries need air defense
  30. lekalpan
    lekalpan April 18 2018 23: 19
    +1
    I propose to threaten the S-400 with sanctions for refusing to buy (after the contract is concluded). Erdogan will be like Munchausen in the cartoon between the sea and the coast. On the shore a lion is waiting and in the sea a shark sharpens its teeth and even looks slyly.
    1. gukoyan
      gukoyan April 19 2018 08: 50
      0
      Ours probably won't do that ...
      The Turks are like friends and "allies", though we really need them like that ... Besides the Bosphorus there is nothing interesting there.
  31. viktor.
    viktor. April 19 2018 01: 51
    0
    Turks with 400 are not allowed! let them fly on efkas!
  32. gukoyan
    gukoyan April 19 2018 08: 48
    0
    Cool promotion ... Buy S-400 and get a sanction))
    Such an advantageous offer)))