For Russia, Nazarbayev condemned the US strikes on Syria, but not for Kazakhstan ...

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The presidents of Russia and Kazakhstan held telephone talks in which the topic of missile attacks by the United States, Britain and France on Syria was touched upon. Recall that the Kazakhstani delegation currently chairing the UN Security Council voted very unexpectedly on the draft resolution proposed by Russia - refrained from recognizing the missile strike on Syria as an act of aggression against an independent state.

Now, as the Kremlin’s press service says, Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev, in a telephone conversation with Vladimir Putin, has condemned the attack on the territory of the SAR.



For Russia, Nazarbayev condemned the US strikes on Syria, but not for Kazakhstan ...


From the material press service:
When exchanging views on the development of the situation around Syria, the leaders condemned recent rocket attacks The United States and its allies in Syrian territory. It was especially emphasized that these aggressive actions were carried out without the sanction of the United Nations Security Council and were a direct violation of the UN Charter, the norms and principles of international law.


In this regard, the question arises, what prevented the Kazakh delegation from expressing a sharp condemnation of missile strikes against Syria in the UN Security Council?

By the way, this is how the message about telephone conversations at President’s website:
During the meeting, the presidents discussed issues of bilateral cooperation, as well as regional and international issues, including the situation in Syria. The Russian side initiated telephone calls.


As you can see, not a word about the condemnation of rocket attacks on the ATS.
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  1. +61
    April 17 2018 18: 08
    For Russia, Nazarbayev condemned US attacks on Syria, but for Kazakhstan, he did not.
    [b] [/ b] .. Comrade Ulyanov (Lenin), he very precisely invented the expression "political prostitution" ... don’t you?
    1. +7
      April 17 2018 18: 13
      Quote: Dead Day
      For Russia, Nazarbayev condemned US attacks on Syria, but for Kazakhstan, he did not.
      [b] [/ b] .. Comrade Ulyanov (Lenin), he very precisely invented the expression "political prostitution" ... don’t you?


      In short .. Vova Nursultanchik .. suggestion made ..
      1. +12
        April 17 2018 18: 21
        Quote: vorobey
        In short .. Vova Nursultanchik .. suggestion made ..

        Well, how did ...
        Now, as the Kremlin’s press service says, Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev, in a telephone conversation with Vladimir Putin, has condemned the attack on the territory of the SAR.

        Dumped to hell in front of partners, knocked out one chair from under Nazarbayev, it’s not worth it to sit for two, not humanly ... wink
        1. +3
          April 18 2018 10: 52
          Quote: NIKNN
          Dumped to hell in front of partners, knocked out one chair from under Nazarbayev, do not sit on two,

          No, I didn’t knock it out. Kazakhstan is heading west and there they are pleased. 10 years will pass and in Kazakhstan there will be a NATO base. They are already talking about the transition of the army to the standards of the alliance ...
          1. +1
            April 18 2018 10: 57
            Quote: raw174
            No, I didn’t knock it out.

            I had in mind in a particular situation ... So it’s clear that I didn’t do politics .. wink
          2. 0
            April 18 2018 23: 03
            Is it nothing like Kazakhstan in Asia? And in the central one.
            It is known how glad this will be except for Russia in China.
            1. 0
              April 19 2018 06: 13
              Quote: YELLOWSTONE
              Is it nothing like Kazakhstan in Asia? And in the central one.
              It is known how glad this will be except for Russia in China.

              Nothing. According to media reports, Kazakhs regularly invite NATO instructors to their military exercises, as Nursultan’s daughter officially expressed her commitment to the course. And what about China, its NATO want to impose, as well as Russia, bases from all sides ...
              1. 0
                April 19 2018 06: 25
                Well, China just doesn’t want this, the Ayatollahs also will not like another such neighbor in the Caspian.
                1. 0
                  April 19 2018 06: 40
                  Quote: YELLOWSTONE
                  Well, China just doesn’t want this, the Ayatollahs also will not like another such neighbor in the Caspian.

                  They will not be asked. If a decision is made at the Kazakhstan-NATO level, China’s opinion will not be taken into account. Well, they are outraged, well, maybe they will protest ...
                  1. 0
                    April 19 2018 07: 24
                    after 1-2 warnings they’ll break it down as in 1951 in Korea or Tibet, they won’t wait
                    Elbasy already in Tselinograd-Astana in exile.
      2. SOF
        +18
        April 17 2018 18: 22
        Quote: vorobey
        In short .. Vova Nursultanchik .. suggestion made ..

        ... but it would not hurt to flog ....
        ... ally, damn it .... we are for them, what should happen, should harness ?; am
        1. +24
          April 17 2018 18: 43
          Quote: SOF
          Is it for them that we should happen to harness?

          In life, Russia harnessed and harnessed ... Only here for Russia no one. Sadness ...
          1. +15
            April 17 2018 19: 56
            Quote: helmi8
            In life, Russia harnessed and harnessed ... Only here for Russia no one. Sadness ..

            Kazakhstan lives according to the logic of Belarus: not to break anything, not to refuse anything, but to move forward. Here we are not “before” them. They consider the West as such. At the same time, they are very afraid of China and understand that we are not protecting them from China.
            There is no Soviet Union. There will be no big and pure love. There will be a union of convenience. He was, and he is. But at the same time, Kazakhstan is moving away from us.
            A significant part of the economy of Kazakhstan, firstly, no longer belongs to Kazakhstan itself - everything there belongs to foreign investors. Secondly, they do not develop that way. They do not continue the economic union with us, but develop their economic things. And focused on Western technology.
            Russia does not have Kazakhstan in terms of life
            1. +4
              April 17 2018 20: 57
              In the border cities, there are a lot of Kazakhs who want to obtain our citizenship. What is it for?
              1. 0
                April 18 2018 10: 50
                Quote: ltc35
                In the border cities, there are a lot of Kazakhs who want to obtain our citizenship. What is it for?

                I live 50 km. from the border, Kazakhs do not rush to us, on the contrary, our Kazakhs go there ...
            2. +9
              April 17 2018 23: 32
              Quote: Silvestr
              There is no Soviet Union. There will be no big and pure love.

              She never was!
              Quote: Silvestr
              There will be a union of convenience. He was, and he is. But at the same time, Kazakhstan is moving away from us.

              Will not go far! The leader is not eternal. A state built on authoritarianism is waiting for a banal collapse. You can’t deceive history! hi
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            3. +5
              April 18 2018 04: 57
              Russia does not have Kazakhstan in terms of life
              You are not much mistaken, just without Russia, Kazakhstan as a subject will disappear.
        2. +12
          April 17 2018 18: 45
          Quote: SOF
          Quote: vorobey
          In short .. Vova Nursultanchik .. suggestion made ..
          ... but it would not hurt to flog ....
          ... ally, damn it .... we are for them, what should happen, should harness ?;

          We owe them nothing at all! But to reunite Russia-are required! Kazakhstan (like Mongolia) in the historical perspective, as a state, is impossible. China swallows them and does not notice. They have two ways: to be digested by China or by joining Russia while preserving the identity of the peoples. And only the second way guarantees that these two peoples will remain on the planet in historical perspective. With the capture of China, they have no chance at all.
          1. SOF
            +4
            April 17 2018 18: 58
            Quote: the most important
            They have two ways.

            ... it is unfortunate, but they will have to make a choice themselves .... but until it’s too late, they need to be evacuated ....
            1. +4
              April 17 2018 19: 51
              Quote: SOF
              but they will have to make the choice themselves ..

              Kazakhstan abstained from voting precisely because it is afraid for itself of any negative consequences in the diplomatic and economic terms.
              It is high time to face the truth regarding what we called alliance with Kazakhstan. There is only a very limited set of areas where relations between Russia and Kazakhstan can be called allied. And in all other cases, this is a pragmatic calculation.
              1. SOF
                +3
                April 17 2018 20: 13
                Quote: Silvestr
                that he is afraid for himself of any negative consequences in the diplomatic and economic terms.

                ... but no one doubted that ...
                Only now, if our leader, publicly, without a press service, declares that his country will fight for his allies, then it would be possible, at least to support him, in this business, in the diplomatic arena, and not merge into "my hut from the edge ".... Many are asking from the allies .... or something ....
                1. +13
                  April 17 2018 20: 28
                  Quote: SOF
                  Only now, if our leader, publicly, without a press service, declares that his country will fight for its allies

                  and the leader correctly evaluates situevina?
                  He also considered Ukraine an ally
                  Quote: SOF
                  They ask a lot from the allies.

                  with what fright did Kazakhstan become an ally? Is there really no discrimination against Russians? Who changes the alphabet?
                  1. SOF
                    +5
                    April 17 2018 20: 45
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    with what fright Kazakhstan became an ally

                    ... with the CSTO, as it were ...
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    Is there really no discrimination against Russians?

                    ... is, but within the framework of the union, this is solved ....
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    Who changes the alphabet?

                    .... what is the alphabet? - a game of identity (well, they are not Slavs ... Turks, whatever you say ...), affecting only the wild problems themselves, this alphabet is changing, especially since the second state Russian is there , so far, no one has canceled. If you want - you read in Russian, you don’t like it — in Kazakh, but with what letters - nevermind, if Kazakh, one stump, you don’t know .... What to do with the Armenians - do they even have a ligature ....? To quarrel with them?
                    1. +2
                      April 17 2018 21: 37
                      Quote: SOF
                      the second state Russian there, so far, no one has canceled.

                      Actually, there is ONE official language in Kazakhstan. And this is Kazakh. Here is such a discovery for you ...
                      1. SOF
                        +7
                        April 17 2018 22: 44
                        Quote: the most important
                        Quote: SOF
                        the second state Russian there, so far, no one has canceled.

                        Actually, there is ONE official language in Kazakhstan. And this is Kazakh. Here is such a discovery for you ...

                        .... oh thanks for clarifying the legal dialectic ....
                        ... read carefully ...
                        About languages ​​in the Republic of Kazakhstan
                        The Law of the Republic of Kazakhstan dated July 11, 1997 N 151
                        Vedomosti of the Parliament of the Republic of Kazakhstan, 1997, N 13-14, Art. 202

                        Article 5. Use of the Russian language
                        In state organizations and local governments along with Kazakh, the Russian language is officially used.

                        .... and now even more carefully consider the picture ...

                        ... this is the passport of a citizen of the Republic of Kazakhstan ..... for a second, the main document ....
                        .... well, for a snack .... dear, and when was the last time you were in Kazakhstan ??? to make discoveries for me ...
                      2. +3
                        April 18 2018 05: 00
                        Actually, there is ONE official language in Kazakhstan. And this is Kazakh. Here is such a discovery for you ...
                        Deuce! Learn the mat part.
          2. +3
            April 17 2018 19: 18
            They have a choice and they stick to it. The Union of Turkic Peoples, in which 200 million people, according to Nazarbayev.
            1. +7
              April 17 2018 20: 01
              Unfortunately. He even got a monument in Turkey. The first secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Kazakhstan retrained into a great Turan, sadness. I wonder why he needs this, what does the USSR space not suit?
              1. +3
                April 17 2018 20: 28
                Together with Erdogan we decided to write the history of the great Turks. After calling for the unification of the Turks into a single state, you are counting on something.
                .
                1. 0
                  April 18 2018 16: 35
                  understandably, an ebullient desire to go down in history. there’s only one fig to the people, the majority’s life will not change, nevertheless they’re shooting videos like “our answer to Soloviev,” when he was rightly surprised by the behavior of the ally, which only confirmed the fears of experts in Russia 1 and not only
          3. +1
            April 17 2018 19: 30
            Quote: the most important
            We owe them nothing at all! But to reunite Russia-are required! Kazakhstan (like Mongolia) in the historical perspective, as a state, is impossible. China swallows them and does not notice. They have two ways: to be digested by China or by joining Russia while preserving the identity of the peoples. And only the second way guarantees that these two peoples will remain on the planet in historical perspective. With the capture of China, they have no chance at all.

            Mongolia has almost all gone under China, Kazakhstan has so far kept aloof, trying to sit not even on two, but on four chairs.
        3. +3
          April 17 2018 22: 45
          Quote: SOF
          ... ally, damn it .... we are for them, what should happen, should harness?
          The demon knows that this is for the allies, if not the first year, part of their officers are trained and trained in the United States. It would be interesting to know the statistics on the staffing in the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan in the context of the appointment to key posts of those who studied on the basis of the USSR (RF) and those who trained on the grounds fed from the US budget. It may turn out that the “ally” is already 80 percent “updated” and trained not in favor of military cooperation with Russia, but just for the confrontation with it and is simply waiting for the end of personnel appointments according to the “staff” schedule.
      3. +3
        April 17 2018 18: 26
        Quote: vorobey
        In short .. Vova Nursultanchik .. suggestion made ..

        Nursultan looks at the striped, he wants to be big .........., but how do they become between Russia and China?
        1. +5
          April 17 2018 18: 50
          Quote: Partyzan
          Nursultan looks at the striped, he wants to be big .........., but how do they become between Russia and China?
          In this regard, the question arises, what prevented the Kazakh delegation from expressing a sharp condemnation of missile strikes against Syria in the UN Security Council?


          Why did Trumpamp scare the Kazakh khan so much? Nazarbayev forgot the fate of Gaddafi, S. Hussein? As they say in those parts: "Whoever has strayed from the herd, the wolves will eat it."
          I would venture to suggest the emergence of ISIS in Kazakhstan, and then the revolution after the revolution as in Kyrgyzstan and the decline as in Syria or Bandera
          1. +3
            April 17 2018 19: 02
            Quote: Balu
            Why did Trumpamp scare the Kazakh khan so much?

            you’ll laugh, but by no means, but neither Russia, nor China, he will surpass, but you want to be big - that’s Latin, that’s a lick, but you know only the Russians were spread rot most of all, talk to those who left there, and who worked there on shifts - on reservations hi
          2. +1
            April 17 2018 20: 03
            Quote: Balu
            Why did Trumpamp scare the Kazakh khan so much?

            Judging by the words of Cadmi, this is his old dream, between the Russian Federation and China to maintain sovereignty based on the states, the question is what will it cost?
      4. +10
        April 17 2018 18: 26
        Quote: vorobey
        Comrade Ulyanov (Lenin), he very precisely invented the expression "political prostitution" ... don’t you?

        "President with low social responsibility." smile Kazakhstan is located between Russia and China. Nazarbayev decided that America would be appropriate as a counterweight. Lukashenko smokes on the sidelines!
        1. SVD
          +1
          April 17 2018 22: 06
          With such a counterbalance - no chance to survive.
          1. +5
            April 17 2018 22: 44
            Quote: SVD
            With such a counterbalance - no chance to survive.

            laughing good Tricky buys do not know about it yet.
      5. +6
        April 17 2018 19: 12
        It is necessary to fence off rather from them, a lost chunk, smile and a pat on the shoulder is not forbidden.
        1. +3
          April 17 2018 20: 06
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          It’s necessary to shut yourself off from them rather, a lost chunk, smile

          Maybe it’s better to grow your elite as the states do, as the Bolsheviks did, the current elite is really a cutaway, drawn to nationalism, a lot of Kazakh videos on the network on the topic of oppression by Russia, fantasies on the subject “what would we be if not for Russia, the Communists”. I would like our wise hand to draw conclusions.
      6. +2
        April 17 2018 19: 30
        Quote: vorobey

        In short .. Vova Nursultanchik .. suggestion made ..

        Something is imperceptible. Again, the Kremlin gives out facts that no one else confirms.
      7. +1
        April 17 2018 19: 47
        Quote: vorobey
        Vova Nursultanchik .. suggestion made ..

        and him - on the drum
    2. +10
      April 17 2018 18: 13
      Well, I could not say to the whole world that the mattresses were wrong. And one on one, I condemn them for their barbaric deed, they are such light radishes.
      We have no allies in this world except the ARMY AND NAVY,
      1. +5
        April 17 2018 18: 37
        If a friend turned out to be a friend ....
        .... you do not hold it - drive it,
        do not take these up .....
        V.Vysotsky
        1. +3
          April 17 2018 18: 43
          Quote: Victor N
          do not take these up .....

          and here, they don’t sing about such ... V. Vysotsky
    3. +4
      April 17 2018 18: 17
      Quote: Dead Day
      For Russia, Nazarbayev condemned US attacks on Syria, but for Kazakhstan, he did not.
      [b] [/ b] .. Comrade Ulyanov (Lenin), he very precisely invented the expression "political prostitution" ... don’t you?

      Leave behind Nazarbayev, he is the president of an independent state and he has his own point of view on everything and has his own opinion. If same-sex marriages are allowed in Russia tomorrow, will Kazakhstan also?
      Is that the logic?
      1. SOF
        +4
        April 17 2018 18: 24
        Quote: RUSS
        If same-sex marriages are allowed in Russia tomorrow, will Kazakhstan also?
        Is that the logic?

        ... maybe just the opposite?
        1. +2
          April 17 2018 19: 18
          Quote: SOF
          Quote: RUSS
          If same-sex marriages are allowed in Russia tomorrow, will Kazakhstan also?
          Is that the logic?

          ... maybe just the opposite?

          As an example, do you mean the transition of Kazakhstan to the Latin alphabet? So let's start by translating our native Karelian language into Cyrillic, and what Kazakhstan does not need is Latin, and the Latin subject gets along in the Russian subject.
      2. +11
        April 17 2018 18: 26
        Quote: RUSS
        Leave behind Nazarbayev, he is the president of an independent state and he has his own point of view on everything and has his own opinion

        he has all TWO points of view ... don't you find?
        1. +2
          April 17 2018 19: 05
          Quote: Dead Day
          he has all TWO points of view ... don't you find?

          So we, too, somewhere Americans for us are almost enemies who do not comply with international law, but somewhere partners in business. We are going to introduce sanctions against them many times, and at the same time we are boosting the finances of American securities, etc.
      3. +6
        April 17 2018 18: 27
        So independent that they express their opinion with an eye on America? )))
        1. +1
          April 17 2018 19: 20
          Quote: Slavs
          So independent that they express their opinion with an eye on America? )))

          This is explained by one simple word - politics.
          Our homegrown politicians are constantly changing clothes in the air.
          1. 0
            April 17 2018 22: 11
            This is due to the fact that after gaining independence and escaping from the yoke of the USSR, everyone took as much sovereignty as they could ... And now they are so independent that they lie beneath the fat body of the United States and quietly snore, being afraid not to blather ... You know, they endure how slaves ... That's all the independence of the former republics of the Soviet Union. And the whole world is now in this state. But the aggressor is of course Russia)))
      4. +17
        April 17 2018 18: 32
        Quote: RUSS
        If same-sex marriages are allowed in Russia tomorrow, will Kazakhstan also?

        Do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs. No one was attracting Nazarbayev to the CSTO by the ears, and as soon as the smell of fried took the ostrich's pose. I wonder what he would do if a stream of bearded people poured from Afghanistan, Trump called, or knocked at the UN? Things should be called by their proper names, in this case, their name is double standards.
        1. 0
          April 17 2018 19: 07
          Quote: Tersky
          Do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs. No one was attracting Nazarbayev to the CSTO by the ears, and as soon as the smell of fried took the ostrich's pose. I wonder what he would do if a stream of bearded people poured from Afghanistan, Trump called, or knocked at the UN? Things should be called by their proper names, in this case, their name is double standards.

          So it can be attributed to all CIS leaders, why be surprised? Distant Serbia has a more intelligible position than our neighbors.
      5. +1
        April 18 2018 10: 32
        Quote: RUSS
        he is the president of an independent state and he has his own point of view on everything and has his own opinion.

        That is, specifically in this topic, two points of view and two opinions? I believe that there are still points, we just don’t know yet.
    4. +3
      April 17 2018 18: 25
      Quote: Dead Day
      political prostitution "... don't you find?

      Everything is logical, who pays for it, he dances her:
    5. +5
      April 17 2018 18: 51
      Nazarbayev, who oppresses the Russians, will soon clap his hands when they fire at us.
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  3. +3
    April 17 2018 18: 08
    As the saying goes, "both ours and yours."
    1. 0
      April 17 2018 18: 15
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      As the saying goes, "both ours and yours."

      This is called a multi-vector policy. And what you wanted, well, we don’t have such a nuclear potential and army, and the economy is not as powerful as yours. That's when you break the hegemon’s horns, then there will be support for you tongue laughing work ...
      1. 0
        April 17 2018 18: 27
        We cannot, these are "dear partners"
      2. +6
        April 17 2018 18: 31
        Then the question arises, if we break off the hegemon’s horns alone, then what is your support for? Expensive egg for Christ's Day .....
        Quote: SPACE
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        As the saying goes, "both ours and yours."

        This is called a multi-vector policy. And what you wanted, well, we don’t have such a nuclear potential and army, and the economy is not as powerful as yours. That's when you break the hegemon’s horns, then there will be support for you tongue laughing work ...
        1. +6
          April 17 2018 18: 37
          Quote: Hagalaz
          Then the question arises, if we break off the hegemon’s horns, why do you need your support?

          "...Who are you for ?" - "... for the one who will win ..."
          1. +2
            April 17 2018 18: 41
            Well, rational. You can’t do anything ....
        2. +3
          April 17 2018 18: 40
          Seriously, in order for allies to be strong themselves, no one will go for the weak. In the meantime, they will say "you want a third world war" then we will not see allies and support.
          1. +2
            April 17 2018 18: 53
            Strong do not need allies. Strong just bends all under their own interests.
        3. 0
          April 17 2018 19: 32
          Quote: Hagalaz
          then what is your support for?

          Do you need an American missile defense system in Aktyubinsk or a NATO base in Uralsk?
          Quote: Hagalaz
          Expensive testicle for Christ's Day .....

          Then at lunch you can stay without soup and without a spoon ..
      3. 0
        April 17 2018 18: 40
        Quote: SPACE
        This is called a multi-vector policy.

        It is clear that Kazakhstani politicians are very far from the economy, otherwise they would not have invited British economic advisers and would not have taught the children of officials at the state expense in the West. But it might be worth remembering the elementary laws of physics that describe multi-vector problems, or at least Krylov’s proverb about the “cancer swan and pike”.
        Indeed, in the center of this multi-vector space are the interests of ordinary citizens of Kazakhstan, who are robbed by all and sundry.
        At the same time, it is worth paying special attention to the fact that the two leading neighboring powers China and Russia invest the least in the Kazakhstani economy, despite the enormous length of their common borders and the strongest economic and political ties. The conclusion is obvious.
        1. +3
          April 17 2018 19: 46
          Quote: Vita VKO
          China and Russia least invest in Kazakhstani economy

          Russia has invested tens of billions of S in the Ukrainian economy - what did it get in return?
          One more parasites to contain?
      4. 0
        April 17 2018 18: 50
        Quote: SPACE
        That's when you break the hegemon’s horns, then support will work for you ...

        Horned hegemon - looks great !!! And the more horns he has, the better !!! lol laughing fellow
      5. +1
        April 18 2018 05: 07
        That's when you break the hegemon’s horns, then you will have tongue laughing support work ...
        Then I’m afraid I will no longer need you, only your (our) territories, and not any insults.
        1. 0
          April 18 2018 05: 28
          Quote: 72jora72
          Actually, there is ONE official language in Kazakhstan. And this is Kazakh. Here is such a discovery for you ...
          Deuce! Learn the mat part.

          Teach yourself, Russian has the status of a state language except for Russia only in Belarus
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Список_стран,_терри
          thorium_and_organizations, _where_Russian_appears_official
          language
          U-turn of the Kazakh passport above only emphasizes this
  4. +2
    April 17 2018 18: 09
    Nazarbayev and that little thing
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  5. +10
    April 17 2018 18: 13
    Nazarbayev has long been the head of Kazakhstan. He has to retire. Otherwise, his policy "both ours and yours" will not bring to good. It is not known who will take the post of president of Kazakhstan after Nazarbayev. Such a scenario is also possible that a new Ukraine, a new hot spot, a new Russophobian country will appear next to us.
    1. +7
      April 17 2018 18: 19
      So far, there is no alternative to Nazarbayev. And with the opposition, the Americans in Kazakhstan have long fussed. So a new color is just around the corner.
      1. +3
        April 17 2018 18: 29
        Oleg, there is practically no opposition in the KZ. hi
    2. +3
      April 17 2018 18: 20
      That's actually - the trend of recent years, instead of "and ours and yours" comes pro-American politicians.
    3. SOF
      +10
      April 17 2018 18: 35
      Quote: solzh
      A new Ukraine, a new hot spot, a new Russophobian country will appear next to us.

      ... no options ...
      Over the past, 2017, the republic of Kazakhstan left 400000 (four hundred thousand) ethnic Russians .... who do not understand - it's almost half a million.
      ... and it will be worse than in "Ceyevrope", since Russian differs radically from Kazakh - when the switch is lowered none of the existing Nazis, especially not have to strain ...
      I would not want to click, but the trend is bad .... unfortunately .....
    4. +1
      April 17 2018 19: 37
      Quote: solzh
      Nazarbayev has long been the head of Kazakhstan. He has to retire. Otherwise, his policy "both ours and yours" will not bring to good. It is not known who will take the post of president of Kazakhstan after Nazarbayev. Such a scenario is also possible that a new Ukraine, a new hot spot, a new Russophobian country will appear next to us.

      With such a foreign policy as Russia, you will soon have no allies (even nominal ones) at all. You look at Russia from the side and you are simply amazed: how can you turn away all your neighbors from yourself and make sure that they also hate you?
      The most interesting thing is that for some reason foreign policy in the country is considered successful.
      1. SOF
        +6
        April 17 2018 20: 33
        Quote: Artemy
        The most interesting thing is that for some reason foreign policy in the country is considered successful.

        ... because it seems to you, you were rather convinced that the “black” is white, and the “white” is black. There are those who have accepted this on faith, there are those who doubt it, there are those who understand that this is nonsense, but are forced to “sign”, because it’s scary, but there are those who know, understand, they can’t be afraid, but they do it randomly (in the official versions - independently) due to the stupid habit of breaking the fifth fulcrum into two, three, four places of its landing ......
        ... I will not speak platitudes about "double standards", about lies and hypocrisy, about outright lies ..... but ......... "white" is white, and "black" is black .....
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          1. SOF
            +4
            April 17 2018 21: 07
            Quote: Artemy
            that someone is to blame

            ... I, it seems, was talking about frank lies .... did you decide to confirm my words with your "opus"?
            .... well, how, one, two, three .... we give insults, pretensions and threats .... of course, at the official level .........
            Tie, at night, watch sisien channel, and may you be happy ....
    5. 0
      April 17 2018 20: 22
      Quote: solzh
      Such a scenario is also possible that a new Ukraine, a new hot spot, a new Russophobian country will appear next to us.

      stopudovo
  6. +2
    April 17 2018 18: 14
    Nazarbayev just misjudges his seat on two chairs to sit! Will not be enough! And just in case, they are, that everyone thinks that Rostov is a dormitory on Don ?! Do not look at Yanukovych! Saakashvili’s jo ... too ... However, Mishiko scourges! It's only the beginning!
    1. 0
      April 17 2018 18: 21
      Nazarbayev just misjudges his seat on two chairs to sit! Will not be enough!

      Does a small country have another choice? Specifically, in the case of Kazakhstan, there are three chairs, and by the way the largest of these chairs is the third.
  7. +6
    April 17 2018 18: 17
    They put pressure on Nazarbayev, so there is such a twofold “position” ... As Lavrov said about the European partners when expelling diplomats ... They themselves are expelled, but whispers in the ear, we can’t do otherwise! sad all states are hooked Yes
    1. +6
      April 17 2018 18: 29
      That's all sovereignty and independence ....)) Probably today only North Korea is truly sovereign ...))
      1. +1
        April 17 2018 18: 54
        Quote: Slavs
        That's all sovereignty and independence ....)) Probably today only North Korea is truly sovereign ...))

        While friends with China.
    2. +1
      April 17 2018 18: 37
      If the attached neighbor so whores then this is already, as they say, necessary
  8. +3
    April 17 2018 18: 18

    In this regard, the question arises, what prevented the Kazakh delegation from expressing a sharp condemnation of missile strikes against Syria in the UN Security Council?


    Nazarbayev expressed his personal opinion to his friend Volodya in a telephone conversation. It may differ from the official position of Kazakhstan.
    1. +5
      April 17 2018 19: 03
      "I am outraged by our vote in the UN Security Council!" - So my father-in-law met me at home yesterday (doc. physical sciences).
      Yesterday, Andrey KZ posted a statement by our diplomats to the UN. They require a chemical investigation. attacks in the Duma before making decisions.
      They have been twisting their hands for a long time - since the practical implementation of the idea of ​​a new Union. At first, Albright protested, then Hillary declared that she would not allow it. Loans, technologies and investments have not been given for a very long time. They asked to arrange a base here. NGOs in the 90s were divorced - now "under the hood" ... Before the arrival of the NAS in the second half of January this year, 22 billion were arrested in the United States. KZ Foundation, and he had to go as a “breeder and supplicant” - Zatulin said at a talk show yesterday that he had thawed (although the “showdown” in the courts continues). hi
      1. avt
        +4
        April 17 2018 19: 33
        Quote: Kasym
        They have been twisting their hands for a long time - since the practical implementation of the idea of ​​a new Union.

        hi This is not the point, and not even
        Quote: Kasym
        Before the arrival of the NAS in the second half of January this year, 22 billion were arrested in the United States. KZ Foundation, and he had to go in the role of a "breeder and supplicant"

        Rather, the last consequence of the NAS policy since 1991. When he built his national state from the KSSR, the question was, under whose roof to go. First, under China; Secondly, Russia did not suit him in two ways. he knew perfectly who the EBN was and he should be his junior partner ... really zapadlo - there is simply no other word. Yes, and the NAS knew what it would do, that is, that the USs will steer to the fullest in Russia. Actually, they were banking all the 90s and now they are pulling the reins. Again, the Kremlin wanted to be an equal type. BUT, he wrote more than once, the throne in the Kremlin is ONE
        Bolivar will not stand two
        Yes, and it’s difficult to build a national state with an eye on the Kremlin from the ex-Soviet republic. That's NAS and chose the US roof for itself. Now it has come back to him 22 yards. Yes and further
        Quote: den3080
        Nursultan Abishevich wanted to slip quietly.
        not a ride with him or the receiver.
        Quote: Kasym
        (although the "showdown" in the courts continues).

        request Claw bogged down - all the bird disappear. request And why did they decide, in fact, like our people who sent the money there, that it wasn’t their money now? As Kurginyan aptly noticed Solovyov, “The bees also think that this is their honey” bully
        1. +3
          April 17 2018 20: 25
          We are rumored that the Yankees are demanding that all debts and investments be repaid - "then create your own currency." Our state debts are not very large, but here are "corporate" ... Probably, it was necessary to immediately introduce them with the creation of the TS, before they had time to recover - now they are "twisting their hands."
          In my opinion, it is needed so that people do not have to. and put the euro in banks, and their own currency, which would be supported by the drag. met. (the price of which is constantly growing). hi
          They are not profitable to freeze funds nat. funds and national banks of other countries. If they wring money out of someone, then the trust of other countries ... they will withdraw their gold reserves.
          1. avt
            +2
            April 17 2018 21: 33
            Quote: Kasym
            We are rumored that the Yankees are demanding that all debts and investments be repaid - "then create your own currency." Our national debts are not very large, but here are "corporate" ...

            request A classic of the genre, which is quite working in Russia. Nothing so intricate in the enslavement of the financial system by the sect of “marketers.” ,, Short “money from exchange speculators advertised as“ Holy Investment. ”Which is withdrawn instantly in accordance with the spinning wheel of the exchange casino - ,, falling and taking off quotes, securities “Accordingly, it is easiest to start such“ investments ”through private companies in the regions under state guarantees. Gesheft is double - withdraw money with interest on the first sneeze,“ exchanges ”and still get government obligations. Classics of the genre - Ruin and Baba Yareska at a post in the ruins Ministry of Finance.
            Quote: Kasym
            They are not profitable to freeze funds nat. funds and national banks of other countries.

            bully They do it RE-GU-LAR-BUT !! Yes, and the money disappears, like the Libyan in Belgium. Introduce sanctions and wu ala - your money has become ours. And you are tyrants, dictators, monsters.
            Quote: Kasym
            they will withdraw their gold reserves.

            bully Again, the question is - did the Germans withdraw a lot of gold from the USA in the past term of the Angels? But did you finally find the Chinese little gold in Knox Fort? I'm not talking about the Twin Towers 11.11 and I’m not saying - everything burned down, and, according to the Yankees, in the literal sense of the word. bully
            Quote: Kasym
            In my opinion, it is needed so that people do not have to. and put the euro in banks, and their own currency, which would be supported by the drag. met. (the price of which is constantly growing).

            bully Careful in desires - Muamor burned out on the “Golden Dinar” with Libya, and Mubarak still cheaply escaped with a simple removal from his post, only for thinking about the proposal of his neighbor.
  9. +3
    April 17 2018 18: 25
    Nursultan Abishevich wanted to slip quietly. He abstained, condemned here by phone. With the world by crumbs, elbase - baursak.
    But somehow awkwardly it turns out.
    For a long time, a blast furnace by a furnace was much better.
    1. 0
      April 17 2018 18: 44
      elbase ?

      how is censorship missed))
      then like the last name of the president Armenia wanted to write did not miss))
  10. +4
    April 17 2018 18: 35
    It seems to me that the different Kyrgyz who received free countries with infrastructure and territory from us should know their place in relation to us.
  11. +1
    April 17 2018 18: 42
    But still there is a "Beginner" in nature. And he’s not fighting, but some kind of ... cunningly ... drunk. otherwise why out of the blue? What can you promise people who have their own full-fledged country so that they begin to bend so? This is not Abishevich. He already in FIG. This is the next shoot coming. Well this is not genetics? The people are reasonable in the mass. So the "newbie" or as they called him, this muck for the "elite" brains.
  12. +2
    April 17 2018 18: 43
    all of our “allies” just haven’t taken a sip from NATO and the United States with shaving, so they still hesitate. Only pain and hardcore can re-educate them. And let them not think that if no one touches them it will always be like that. And they will be asked only when .
  13. 0
    April 17 2018 18: 47
    it happened before the lights out in the army, one "grandfather" shouted to the "young" -turn off the light, and the other "grandfather" shouted-don’t turn off, and this poor fellow rushing about doesn’t know what to do ... as a result of thinking, he carries out the order of someone from whom can get stronger ...
  14. +2
    April 17 2018 18: 48
    Quote: Kasym
    Oleg, there is practically no opposition in the KZ

    In this particular case, more advantages.
    Tell Dauren why of your compatriots only you are more or less calmly speaking out on the resource. Others, if they get here, then with exotic flags?
    And yet, do you think that the Crimean Spring acts so hard on your leader of the country or personal reasons?
    1. +5
      April 17 2018 21: 03
      Hi!
      Alexander, this is how the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine brought it all out (the opposition) - rather, it discredited itself. Remained "pocket", which was given a couple of seats in parliament - called democracy. laughing . In KZ there is a rigid vertical of power.
      VO is blocked in the KZ, fellow countrymen "quench" their IP addresses, so the flags of the countries popping up via \ "whom" is connected to the site.
      Alexander, why should I "take a steam bath and get nervous" that the authorities are stirring up there? I know the relations of my relatives (relatives, friends, etc.) to international affairs. Mostly positive for the Russian Federation and GDP. They are afraid that they will not return such as EBN.
      I don’t know what is affecting Elbasy there. But here they hold him for the Russophile, and in the Russian Federation people believe that they are "unreliable." Honestly, for the "northern territories" only natspaty who are driven by a wave from the time of Ukrainian events start a conversation, they shouted and ... silence. Many people believe that with the development of the EAEU this question will "die out" even for the patriots. Here, Russian business is advancing on all fronts - soon the national authorities will start a new song.
      Here, several years ago, we introduced in schools (regardless of the language of instruction) compulsory FULL instruction in Russian. and liters - the same number of lessons in kaz. and Russian. jaz .. In kaz. and not russ. school parents "howl" - exams and all that. There are another 100 students who study in Ukrainian., Uygh., Taj. and uzb. languages ​​(about a hundred schools). They have to learn Kazakh, Russian, native and foreign. Imagine the condition of the parents! So I think that Russians in the Russian Federation do not need to look at the transition to the Latin alphabet - it is better what is done for the Russian language in the KZ.
      In fact, the status of ANAS (Elbasy) is higher than the presidential one. He can calmly "set up" the receiver and oversee it - he can take it off as an unjustified trust. Therefore, I do not really understand what keeps him from this step - except perhaps the "family". hi
      1. +2
        April 17 2018 21: 23
        Thank you for the detailed answer. The lack of opposition in Kazakhstan is a fact that does not depress me a bit. The power that has played with the Americans, especially if it is easily blackmail, usually ends badly. There are plenty of examples. But if something is enough in Russia and Belarus. hi
        1. +5
          April 17 2018 22: 00
          Alexander, well, you understand who made up this opposition - former officials torn from the “feeding trough”.
          In my opinion, the National Academy of Sciences shies away from the US authorities, but not from the business of these countries (these are often forced to lobby the interests of the National Academy of Sciences before their authorities). At the end of the 90s, in the presidential election, he "brought the actions of NGOs into the clear." After that, he made some conclusions, because they wanted to push him. At the beginning of the 0s they demanded a base - he was a couple !!! weeks, the law was held in parliament, that without the permission of the CSTO and SCO (read China) there can be no military bases of third countries in the country. He even stopped visiting the EU as often as before. But in the PRC (if see the far abroad) ... And many Russians (at least on the site) believe that he is "brother" in the West - he threw all the gas from Central Europe to the PRC from the European direction, thereby depriving "of an alternative "for the EU, ready for Iran to do the same. If you look at trade with the United States, then ... pennies ... 1,5 billion ... And of course, when I was in the United States, I invited American investors to the country - but we are unlikely to see them.
          Look at what KZ offers:
          1. Tax incentives up to 10 years
          2. Infrastructure at the expense of the state
          3. The return of 30% of investments immediately after the start of production from the KZ treasury.
          4. Access to any natural resources of KZ.
          But do not go. Probably because you can’t buy it - he can do it himself and does it. The Russians may have their own opinion, but here everyone believes that he will stand behind the EAEU. It can be explained on the other hand: the States will throw (they have only interests), China will not accept the people.
          Alexander, KZ - a police state, so to speak. NAS is tightly controlling everything. hi
          I wrote above for ABT, read what rumors we have. Many oligarchs are now being squeezed out of us - at the end of 17g. NAS asked everyone to return "money to their homeland." Then the story came up with the arrest of 22 billion ...
  15. +2
    April 17 2018 18: 53
    Quote: RUSS
    Get behind Nazarbayev, he is the president of an independent state

    Seriously? He was the President of an independent state while he was friends with Russia. Now wait for the events in Ukraine with an Asian bias.
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  17. +2
    April 17 2018 19: 04
    One thing is not clear why our authorities are so helpless and amorphous in their own territories, where there were and are all the opportunities for tight control and management, methods and personnel for working with the public? From the very beginning, from the very beginning, Kazakhstan has been following the path of Ukraine and the Baltic states, can our political scientists really not see this? From the very beginning, the first thing they did was to expel the Russian-speaking from all leading positions, all these years the Russians were oppressed and discriminated against, the language was systematically supplanted and forbidden. In order to "stake out" the primordially Russian lands that never belonged to Kazakhstan (except for the Almaty region, there was almost nothing) even the capital was moved quickly. So why didn’t they raise the issue of the territorial affiliation of the northern ones, where in the end our specialists and impact measures are such complacency, bordering at best on unprofessionalism, is more like a direct betrayal and sabotage of the interests of our country. The same thing in Ukraine, but what about the experience of 90-41, where are the Kavpaki and Kuznetsovs, where is the organized underground and partisan movement, with overwhelming support from the population? Why are our "partners" over 45 km, on a completely hostile territory, completely without knowledge of the mentality, stories that never had any common interests and nothing in common, objectively with limited resources, were able to arrange a coup, rebuild consciousness among the masses of people, prepare several generations of hate Natsik. To what extent
    short-sightedness and dullness, wretchedness of thinking, and most likely, corruption and extreme unprofessionalism, direct intent must have our so-called the elite, how they call themselves to admit such a state of affairs in their territories and in their patrimony and with helplessness to look at everything that is happening, and even constantly make excuses and apologize to every cattle, smearing snot from spat upon rage. And after that they still try to it is vicious to say to Stalin and Beria, kings and princes, who then gathered with blood and defended the empire in order to pass it on to their wretched descendants. And they are trying to discredit all those territories that have been collected and defended for centuries, heavily watered by Russians first blood, those who do not create anything that set the country in the development of 100 years ago, threw robbed the people and the country at the feet of the transatlantic winner, without a struggle, just for the sake of his ambition, greed, and vanity. So they, by the way, who killed the state and are still in power, continue to sleep softly and eat sweet, not even able to control their regions and zones of influence, their "feeding trough".
  18. +1
    April 17 2018 19: 10
    Pissing comrade
  19. +1
    April 17 2018 19: 21
    Kazakh money in the United States, and therefore not ordered to speak.
  20. +1
    April 17 2018 19: 35
    The photo "walks" on the Internet, on it is our Supreme, the father and the main Kazakh. The signature "three heroes and the whole world against them." According to my understanding, I signed "three heroes, one in battle and two in an endless ambush"
  21. +2
    April 17 2018 19: 35
    follow Mexico better and with Kazakhstan everything was and will be fine
  22. BAI
    +1
    April 17 2018 19: 56
    Has anyone in the world condemned the downing of the Su-24? What are you talking about?
  23. 0
    April 17 2018 20: 47
    In this regard, the question arises, what prevented the Kazakh delegation from expressing a sharp condemnation of missile strikes against Syria in the UN Security Council?

    like what? the eggs.
  24. 0
    April 17 2018 21: 05
    We have such "allies" as we deserve.
  25. +1
    April 17 2018 21: 06
    Quote: Dead Day
    For Russia, Nazarbayev condemned US attacks on Syria, but for Kazakhstan, he did not.
    [b] [/ b] .. Comrade Ulyanov (Lenin), he very precisely invented the expression "political prostitution" ... don’t you?

    Comrade Lenin is the founding father of the "transfer of Russian lands", the creation of quasi-states, and the guilt complex of the people who created this country for "Great Russian chauvinism." So the current heads of independent "states with low social responsibility are exclusively the legacy of Lenin and his associates
    1. +1
      April 17 2018 21: 33
      Quote: Varyag77
      So the current heads of independent "states with low social responsibility are exclusively the legacy of Lenin and his associates

      I don’t know if they were Comrade. Stalin and Ilyich were the second faithful Leninists, but they turned back the Leninist-Bukharin national policy towards the Russian people with frenzy and busting.
  26. 0
    April 17 2018 22: 03
    Anecdote:
    Nazarbayev meets with Putin:
    Vladimir Vladimirovich! How much can I be the president of Kazakhstan?
    Putin: "How long will you live ..."
    Nazarbayev: "And you?"
    Putin "How much they say in Washington ..."
    1. +2
      April 17 2018 22: 05
      Quote: rruvim
      Anecdote

      So what? When to laugh? belay
      1. 0
        April 17 2018 22: 07
        Do not laugh, but cry! That's the whole joke ...
        1. 0
          April 17 2018 22: 08
          Quote: rruvim
          Do not laugh, but cry

          Welcome ... and cry - where?
          And why cry? From laughter, or what?
          So you confused me ... request
          1. 0
            April 17 2018 22: 16
            Yes, cry from the fact that Nazarbayev and his clan are "flying" into the arms of China. And no one remembers how many losses there were when we took the city of Alma-Ata (the father of apples) ...
            1. +1
              April 17 2018 22: 20
              Quote: rruvim
              Nazarbayev and his clan "fly" into the arms of China

              Um ... don't understand me for you. Okay. And the joke is a trash, I, in fact, started from this request
              1. 0
                April 17 2018 22: 28
                Okay. Putin and Washington are just a meme. But Kazakhstan, one of the former republics of the USSR, has virtually no production potential. This country is a donor.
                For China, the best place for mining.
            2. +1
              April 18 2018 03: 48
              Quote: rruvim
              And no one remembers how many losses there were when we took the city of Alma-Ata (the father of apples) ...

              Actually, no one took the city there. It was founded near the fortification of Vernoye and the village of Alma-Ata. The city of Verny was founded. Which after the name was changed twice. In memory of him, the name now bears a difficult peak on the border of China with Kyrgyzstan. In Kazakhstan, either mountains of a worthy name were not found, or there were reasons not to call it that.
  27. +2
    April 17 2018 22: 34
    It is necessary to forget about all the former "fraternal" republics and to engage in strengthening the borders, and most importantly, to understand Russia itself, how we will live.
  28. +2
    April 17 2018 22: 34
    ... and what prevented the Kazakh delegation from expressing its sharp condemnation of missile attacks on Syria in the UN Security Council? - puppy joy from the thrown heap of "bones".
  29. 0
    April 17 2018 23: 14
    The prostitution of a CSTO colleague is booming. Nazarbayev is trying to sit already in three chairs - Russian, Chinese and mattress.
  30. +1
    April 17 2018 23: 19
    The point is not iron! Afraid that the tomahawks will arrive. Well, or a color revolution.
  31. +1
    April 18 2018 05: 16
    Quote: the most important
    With the capture of China, they have no chance at all.

    I agree, even when I lived in Kazakhstan I learned the saying: Kara Kytay Kaptasy sary orys Akendey Bolar: IF THE BLACK CHINESE HEATS, THE RED RUSSIAN FATHER WILL SEE. Unfortunately, the Kazakhs have long forgotten about this
  32. 0
    April 18 2018 05: 26
    In general, it is necessary to drive everything hasty out of a reasonable turn. I know almost nothing about what is happening in Kazakhstan in reality.
  33. GRF
    0
    April 18 2018 05: 50
    SOF,

    .... and now even more carefully consider the picture ...

    ... this is the passport of a citizen of the Republic of Kazakhstan ..... for a second, the main document ....

    Judging by the passport photo, their English is also state;)
    A killer argument ...
  34. +3
    April 18 2018 07: 50
    SOF,
    I live in Kazakhstan, we have one state language - Kazakh. The reservation that Russian can be used along with Kazakh does not make it state. tongue.
    1. 0
      April 18 2018 22: 53
      it cannot be used on an equal basis, for example, in court - only if necessary
  35. +1
    April 18 2018 13: 31
    23 lards hold Nazarbayev tightly by the balls.
  36. 0
    April 18 2018 17: 44
    So what? Another classic example of political bigamy. One in Belarus, the second in Kazakhstan. And both are unsinkable like a bunch you know what ...