Trump: Russia failed to intercept any missiles in Syria

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During his visit to the state of Florida, the President of the United States once again spoke about the "super effective missile attack" on objects in Syria. Speaking about the attack, Trump said that "Russia could not knock down a single rocket." From the statement of the President of the United States:
They say they shot down 40 missiles, 50, but in fact not a single missile was shot down. Their systems just didn't work.


Trump: Russia failed to intercept any missiles in Syria




That's right - Russia did not intercept missiles. The Syrians themselves did everything ...



Recall that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation provided information that the cruise missiles launched by the American-British-French trio, were used 112 antimissiles from various anti-aircraft missile systems, including Osu and Buk.

In the main defense department of the Russian Federation, it was noted that a total of 103 missiles launched at targets in the SAR had intercepted 71. In this case, it is added that in fact the Americans simply lie when they say that they were not going to strike at the Syrian military airfields. According to Igor Konashenkov, none of the Syrian airfields, which turned out to be among the targets for the “coalition” missiles, did not receive any serious damage precisely because the cruise missiles were successfully intercepted.
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  1. +34
    April 17 2018 07: 55
    They say they shot down 40 missiles, 50, but in fact not a single missile was shot down. Their systems just didn't work.

    Photo of objects destroyed by axes in the studio. And then with a broomstick of revenge, not carry bags. Or will they again argue that the goals were only three objects? 30 axes per object ... fool
    By the way, mattresses like to upload videos from UAVs that aim at the target ... and where are these videos? M.
    1. +8
      April 17 2018 08: 00
      Quote: NEXUS
      They say they shot down 40 missiles, 50, but in fact not a single missile was shot down. Their systems just didn't work.

      Photo of objects destroyed by axes in the studio. And then with a broomstick of revenge, not carry bags. Or will they again argue that the goals were only three objects? 30 axes per object ... fool

      Photos of objects laid out in the trash were laid out repeatedly. The US DoD said about them initially that you are not comfortable?
      1. +15
        April 17 2018 08: 02
        Quote: Artemy
        Photos of objects laid out in the trash were laid out repeatedly. The US DoD said about them initially that you are not comfortable?

        So present these acts of the United States against the army, which is fighting with ISIS. Just not cheap fakes.
        1. +4
          April 17 2018 08: 11
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: Artemy
          Photos of objects laid out in the trash were laid out repeatedly. The US DoD said about them initially that you are not comfortable?

          So present these acts of the United States against the army, which is fighting with ISIS. Just not cheap fakes.

          A hundred times already, but if you are not enough ...


          1. +27
            April 17 2018 08: 14
            Quote: Artemy
            A hundred times already, but if you are not enough ..

            Do not think that you are the most sophisticated ... provide normal photos where there are destroyed objects. And three objects that 103 KR released? Are you seriously?
            1. +8
              April 17 2018 08: 24
              Quote: NEXUS
              Quote: Artemy
              A hundred times already, but if you are not enough ..

              Do not think that you are the most sophisticated ... provide normal photos where there are destroyed objects. And three objects that 103 KR released? Are you seriously?

              What are normal then? Such?

              1. +23
                April 17 2018 08: 28
                Quote: Artemy
                What are normal then? Such?

                I do not understand, the diagnosis of MEI is contagious?
                1. +8
                  April 17 2018 08: 35
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Quote: Artemy
                  What are normal then? Such?

                  I do not understand, the diagnosis of MEI is contagious?

                  Can you communicate coherently? What is wrong with these pictures?
                  1. +10
                    April 17 2018 08: 41
                    Quote: Artemy
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Quote: Artemy
                    What are normal then? Such?

                    I do not understand, the diagnosis of MEI is contagious?

                    Can you communicate coherently? What is wrong with these pictures?

                    Do not strain, the standard urya scheme in the style of "your evidence is not evidence" that you do not show them.
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                      1. +4
                        April 17 2018 09: 30
                        Can you explain the meaning of the abbreviation "DB"?
                        While I was in the bathhouse for the abbreviation, I missed a bit, so Mikhan VO decided about the wreckage of 73 shot down missiles. Just interested
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                      1. +2
                        April 17 2018 11: 44
                        That is, in this form it is possible?) In the form of abbreviations. They blocked me for her for a week, I wonder if they will mark you?
                        We dk against double standards, like exceptional, right?)
                  2. +7
                    April 17 2018 08: 44
                    Artyom, tell me how much kg is needed. tnt. on one civil engineering project? IMHO 2-3 axes (200-600kg) is more than enough to collapse the structure. (I’m not an explosive engineer, but the order is-sure-such).
                    So the affected targets, therefore, should be about 35 pieces.
                    Did I calculate correctly?
                    1. +17
                      April 17 2018 08: 47
                      Quote: Yarr_Arr
                      Did I calculate correctly?

                      No ... Artemy considers it better. 35 axes per object, that is, more than 15 tons of TNT for each. Schaub nafig to demolish the foundation and on the back of the Earth there was a funnel.
                      1. +4
                        April 17 2018 10: 30
                        Or maybe just the disposal of ammunition? Such a version, it seems, has not yet been. Cheap, angry, and rating raises.
                      2. +3
                        April 17 2018 10: 45
                        Quote: Mikhail M
                        Or maybe just the disposal of ammunition? Such a version, it seems, has not yet been. Cheap, angry, and rating raises.

                        Yeah ... Trump then said before the strike that he would be shot from SMART missiles, and this is not lower than a doctorate. Who are the "professors" then write off to the scrap?
                    2. +6
                      April 17 2018 08: 56
                      Quote: Yarr_Arr
                      Artyom, tell me how much kg is needed. tnt. on one civil engineering project? IMHO 2-3 axes (200-600kg) is more than enough to collapse the structure. (I’m not an explosive engineer, but the order is-sure-such).
                      So the affected targets, therefore, should be about 35 pieces.
                      Did I calculate correctly?

                      I guess, yes. Only this if you are saving money, but do not want to exponentially shatter everything in half. In addition, here, for some reason, absolutely no one knows what rockets the same Barzeh center was attacked with. Everyone says for some reason about 76 “axes”, although there were exactly 57 “axes”, and the remaining 19 are penetrating JASSMs.
                      1. +10
                        April 17 2018 09: 20
                        Quote: Artemy
                        here, for some reason, absolutely no one knows what kind of missiles the same Barzeh center was attacked. Everyone says for some reason about 76 “axes”, although there were exactly 57 “axes”, and the remaining 19 are penetrating JASSMs.
                        I believe to attack civilian structures, missiles against bunkers, the top of idiocy. You strongly shook the conclusion about the adequate training of specialists in NATO. Regarding to save, I will add. Yes, they did not intend to save, only the reason for this was far from being blown apart, but the probability of an air defense breakthrough, based on the derived coefficient of possible losses for a specific enemy air defense system. Well, if such a heap was sent to 3 houses, then it was estimated accordingly and 6-8 pieces burst out of this heap, more funnels are not visible there ... which is completely contrary to the statements about not a single missile sabotage .. Well, because .. . hi
                  3. +5
                    April 17 2018 09: 01
                    With these pictures, everything is so.
                    It's not so with your head.
                    You crow here on the Russian site that Russia lost, and the USA did well.
                    You would go from here to yours.
                    1. +9
                      April 17 2018 09: 11
                      Quote: Mestny
                      With these pictures, everything is so.
                      It's not so with your head.
                      You crow here on the Russian site that Russia lost, and the USA did well.
                      You would go from here to yours.

                      1. I was not happy anywhere that Russia lost, but the Americans did well.
                      2. Would you like to tell you what people think about this in the world (on the same twitter, facebook, reddit), because as far as I understand, you can’t go anywhere and defend your point of view before foreigners?
                      3. At the same reddit, many consider me a Russian quilted jacket and propagandist since when they write there the most perfect .. ny, then I poke them in the same way with my nose at ...
                    2. +7
                      April 17 2018 09: 53
                      Quote: NIKNN
                      I believe to attack civilian structures, missiles against bunkers, the top of idiocy.

                      Civil constructions are residential buildings, and even then in many (especially in Soviet times) they had bomb shelters. In the polytechnic in which I studied there were underground structures. In the hospital in which I was treated, too, were. In the five-story building, which was a block from my house, there were also. So with idiocy you got excited.
                      You strongly shook the conclusion about the adequate training of specialists in NATO.

                      I am sure that they will survive it. Speaking of adequate training of specialists. At one time in the world (twitter, reddit, etc.), it was actively discussed how the Russian military, after shooting down the Su-24 and bailout pilots, thought of sending two transport turntables to the rescue to the zone controlled by the militants without cover? You probably remember the result? This is the question of adequate training of specialists.
                      Regarding to save, I will add. Yes, they did not intend to save, only the reason for this was far from being blown away, but the probability of an air defense breakthrough, based on the derived coefficient of possible losses for a specific enemy air defense system. Well, if such a heap was sent to 3 houses, then it was estimated accordingly and 6-8 pieces burst out of this heap, more funnels are not visible there ... which is completely contrary to the statements about not a single missile sabotage .. Well, because ..

                      You can think whatever you want. The truth in the world about this the vast majority of people unfortunately thinks differently.
                  4. +3
                    April 17 2018 10: 29
                    Quote: Artemy
                    Can you communicate coherently?

                    You want it connected ... okay ... Planning a missile strike includes calculating the suppression of air defense, radar and communications systems of the enemy, airfields. That is what we observed in Iraq.
                    Now tell me RELIABLE, where is the statement of the mattresses on the destruction of at least one of the above?
                    1. +3
                      April 17 2018 12: 46
                      Dear NEXUS !!! All that you have listed about a missile strike is true if it is followed by a phase of ground operations.
                      1. 0
                        April 17 2018 18: 05
                        Quote: Nehist
                        Dear NEXUS !!! All that you have listed about a missile strike is true if it is followed by a phase of ground operations.

                        And on earth they have ISIS and every other rabble. Yesterday, the correspondent who arrived from Damascus and was there during the blow clearly explained ... the majahideen were sitting, waiting for the mattresses to be gouged and rubbed the arms, that after that to the attack ... but no, these geeks were absorbed after a couple of hours they gave up.
                  5. +2
                    April 17 2018 10: 39
                    Can you communicate coherently? What is wrong with these pictures?
                    Along the way, this is something wrong with you .....
              2. +9
                April 17 2018 08: 33
                Uncle, are you adequate? You are told 103 (105) missiles at 3 THREE (as the tan declares) blows to objects !!! Objects are several buildings Why do you need to shoot so many missiles at such a small number of targets ?????
                1. +10
                  April 17 2018 08: 43
                  Quote: ultra
                  Uncle, are you adequate? You are told 103 (105) missiles at 3 THREE (as the tan declares) blows to objects !!! Objects are several buildings Why do you need to shoot so many missiles at such a small number of targets ?????

                  I don’t understand, is that your only argument in the argument?
                  1. Because they can afford.
                  2. To show that they can not only hit objects, but also erase them into dust and neither Syria nor Russia can do anything about it.
                  3. That would not be disposed of.
                  4. Didn’t they here at the forum ask questions many times: why do we need to hammer the costly Caliber into the clay "headquarters" of the militants? And most importantly, they successfully answered them why this is necessary.
                  5.
                  6.
                  7.
                  1. +8
                    April 17 2018 08: 52
                    Quote: Artemy
                    I don’t understand, is that your only argument in the argument?
                    1. Because they can afford.
                    2. To show that they can not only hit objects, but also erase them into dust and neither Syria nor Russia can do anything about it.

                    That is, in your opinion, the mattress warriors are generally finished DB, so that for one object, which from three axes (1,5 tons of explosives) turns into dust, beat 15 tons of explosives? fool
                    A curtain.
                    1. +6
                      April 17 2018 09: 14
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Quote: Artemy
                      I don’t understand, is that your only argument in the argument?
                      1. Because they can afford.
                      2. To show that they can not only hit objects, but also erase them into dust and neither Syria nor Russia can do anything about it.

                      That is, in your opinion, the mattress warriors are generally finished DB, so that for one object, which from three axes (1,5 tons of explosives) turns into dust, beat 15 tons of explosives? fool
                      A curtain.

                      I have already told you several times why they did this, but you still cannot understand.
                      PS: In your place, it’s much more logical to worry about the rational consumption of Caliber. Let others worry about the Tomahawks.
                      1. +7
                        April 17 2018 09: 17
                        Quote: Artemy
                        PS: In your place, it’s much more logical to worry about the rational consumption of Caliber. Let others worry about the Tomahawks.

                        Each strike with Caliber is accompanied by a video, photo and report ... where did the axes hit? Earlier mattresses loved such shows so much that Hillary puffed boiling water and was emptied with bricks the size of the ones that built the pyramids.
                      2. +7
                        April 17 2018 09: 32
                        Quote: Artemy
                        I already told you several times why they did it, but you still can’t understand

                        Turn on your brains and think ... what are 35 axes? This is a town of regional scale razed to the ground under zero. And here they can allow it or not. There is a banal rationality and calculation. No one in their right mind will spend on an object that has 3 axes for the eyes, 35 axes. After three hits, there is a funnel ... and the remaining 32 axes in your flopped where, into the funnel? That is, in your opinion, the mattress fighters are not even DB, but Kashchenko’s first floor clients.
                  2. +7
                    April 17 2018 09: 01
                    Americans can afford ...

                    clumsy argument. Come up with something else
                    1. +10
                      April 17 2018 09: 31
                      Quote: NEXUS

                      Each strike by Caliber is accompanied by a video, photo and report ..

                      Really?


                      Here is 2 Caliber collapsed along the road (there are still photos of the same). Show me when the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported their loss, rather than reporting that "All fired missiles accurately hit the assigned targets"? That's it.
                      video hit axes where?

                      In the pictures, CEP. Americans declared 3 goals. From the stated goals there was no stone unturned. What other proof do you have?
                      Previously, mattresses were so fond of such shows that even Hillary pissed with boiling water and was emptied with bricks the size of the ones that built the pyramids.

                      Arguments ended and went name-calling, like in a kindergarten? And this is against the background of Apache and a video from a computer game? It’s funny.
                      1. +6
                        April 17 2018 09: 43
                        Quote: Artemy
                        Arguments ended and went name-calling, like in a kindergarten? And this is against the background of Apache and a video from a computer game? It’s funny.

                        Hmm ... well, if I alone explained this to you ... do not hear and do not want to hear. Your argument is rotten, as is your evidence. I don’t want to continue this stupid conversation with you anymore. Sorry.
                      2. +5
                        April 17 2018 10: 30
                        Where did you get that in the presented photo of the Kyrgyz Republic Caliber? Gauges are cylindrical in shape. This one, more like the X-101, again I can’t presume to say that this is so ...
                      3. +2
                        April 17 2018 14: 48
                        Quote: Artemy
                        Here is 2 Caliber collapsed along the road (there are still photos of the same)

                        =======
                        Well, Firstly - I see only 1 (one!) Photo .....
                        Secondly, I can’t determine whether it’s a "caliber" or a "drone" of unknown origin ???
                        Thirdly, I can’t determine in any way: WHERE and WHEN "it" was removed ???
                        ---
                        Summary: There is something more believable - MERCY: PLEASE LAY OUT!
                        Well, and if NO - well then not "figs" and "la-la" (well, or bla-bla-bla, as you like to say there ....)
                  3. +1
                    April 17 2018 09: 02
                    These questions were asked just like you.
                    1. +9
                      April 17 2018 10: 23
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Your argument is rotten, as is your evidence. I don’t want to continue this stupid conversation with you anymore. Sorry.

                      I knew your answer in advance, because the photos of the fallen Calibers are weakly linked to the peppy statements of the Russian Defense Ministry and your unfounded allegations.
                      Good luck in the fight against enemies on the information front!
                      1. +1
                        April 17 2018 11: 05
                        Quote: Artemy
                        I knew your answer in advance, because the photos of the fallen Calibers are weakly linked to the peppy statements of the Russian Defense Ministry and your unfounded allegations.

                        In the photo you are sure that Caliber? M. From the wreckage, I can say that this is a UAV, the same ax, a UFO shot down ...
                        Quote: Artemy
                        Good luck in the fight against enemies on the information front!

                        Amused ... well done.
                  4. +4
                    April 17 2018 09: 21
                    Quote: Artemy
                    2. To show that they can not only hit objects, but also erase them into dust and neither Syria nor Russia can do anything about it.

                    "Erase into dust" - do not pull the owl on the globe. Photo from the object on which 76 axes fell:

                    As you can see, it’s somehow far from “trash” - not even all the walls have been destroyed. Well, what can I do, no, but the Yankees have normal rockets ...
                    1. +7
                      April 17 2018 10: 31
                      And part of the growth is intact. Yes, and condo in place
                2. +4
                  April 17 2018 09: 09
                  Quote: ultra
                  Objects are several buildings. WHY do we have to shoot so many missiles at such a small number of targets ?????

                  Because the missiles are “smart and beautiful,” but the normal warhead could not be shoved into them.
                  PS Our American amateurs do not even understand that with their statements I only confirm the fact that the "axes" are UG.
                3. 0
                  April 17 2018 10: 45
                  ultra (Mikhail) Because they knew very well that most of the missiles would be shot down, so they fired with a margin.
                  1. +1
                    April 17 2018 11: 07
                    Quote: Bronevick
                    ultra (Mikhail) Because they knew very well that most of the missiles would be shot down, so they fired with a margin.

                    Nichrome your reserve ... 90 KR ... carefully look at the tactics of using axes in the same Iraq. What went under the destruction, barracks, sheds, toilets, or air defense, radar, communication systems, airfields, command posts?
              3. 0
                April 21 2018 02: 15
                Judging by these pictures, one missile got there. And where did the remaining 100 ??? Have you gone on a safari in Africa? Oh yes, two more smartest, whole ones !!!, surrendered to ours!
          2. +8
            April 17 2018 08: 36
            Quote: Artemy
            A hundred times already, but if you are not enough ...

            ========
            Yes, this photo - almost the only one, walks on the Internet! There was one more - there seemed to be some kind of "stacks" of something ... After the blow, no destruction was visible, and the "stacks" disappeared ... (either they "flew up into the air", or if they were just SUCCESSFUL to take out ) .... AND THIS spent 103 missiles ?? !!
            Oh well!
            1. +7
              April 17 2018 08: 46
              Quote: venik
              Quote: Artemy
              A hundred times already, but if you are not enough ...

              ========
              Yes, this photo - almost the only one, walks on the Internet! There was one more - there seemed to be some kind of "stacks" of something ... After the blow, no destruction was visible, and the "stacks" disappeared ... (either they "flew up into the air", or if they were just SUCCESSFUL to take out ) .... AND THIS spent 103 missiles ?? !!
              Oh well!

              I don’t understand what you are worried about how much is spent? The Americans never seemed to worry why you spend so many Caliber on clay "headquarters" and "warehouses" of barmaley?
              1. +5
                April 17 2018 09: 04
                You were all upset.
                Fart undermines, so I want the United States to win.
                I repeat - you are not here, you are on the forum of alternatively gifted teenagers, fighters with the regime.
                Shit here in the process of war is not worth it.
                1. +6
                  April 17 2018 09: 37
                  Quote: Mestny
                  You were all upset.
                  Fart undermines, so I want the United States to win.
                  I repeat - you are not here, you are on the forum of alternatively gifted teenagers, fighters with the regime.
                  Shit here in the process of war is not worth it.

                  For quite slow-witted: unlike you, who learn news only from "INOSMI" and the like, I often go to the reddit and, as far as I can, defend Russia's position there before foreigners.
                  What have you done to defend its position in the world, except how to lay it down here?
              2. +1
                April 17 2018 14: 40
                Quote: Artemy
                I don’t understand what you are worried about how much is spent? The Americans never seemed to worry why you spend so many Caliber on clay "headquarters" and "warehouses" of barmaley?

                =========
                Now - I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND ....... Which "clay headquarters", "warehouses" and WHICH exactly are "barmaley" ?????
                Can you explain, my dear ???
          3. +5
            April 17 2018 10: 44
            Quote: Artemy
            A hundred times already, but if you are not enough ..

            I can do that too winked
          4. +1
            April 17 2018 12: 42
            Well and what is it? Where is the reference to the coordinates, where is the time? With such success, you can put a couple of pictures of the Sergeevsky training ground before and after the exercises, and in 1977
        2. +4
          April 17 2018 09: 27
          And what about the fakes? It is very necessary to crawl around the airbases collecting debris. Meaning? Anyway, the Western media simply will not show them. They will announce that this is Kremlin propaganda. The military in Syria already has something to do. If you are sure that ALL 103 missiles (based on satellite images shown by the Americans) went down on those two objects, then just think that there would be half the successive impact of almost 20 tons of explosives (103 times 150-300 kg in the warhead). There should not even have been walls.
      2. +2
        April 17 2018 09: 38
        I am not satisfied with the mattresses gundos about the right to freely defecate on innocent heads! There are suitable places for this - water_closet is called!
      3. +3
        April 17 2018 10: 07
        Quote: Artemy
        Photos of objects laid out in the trash were laid out repeatedly. The US DoD said about them initially that you are not comfortable?

        It does not suit that, according to Trump, up to three attack objects should have reached a total of about 75 missiles. Or 25 missiles per object.
        The problem is that this goal does not pull on 25 hit “tomahawks”.
        1. +4
          April 17 2018 10: 28
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Quote: Artemy
          Photos of objects laid out in the trash were laid out repeatedly. The US DoD said about them initially that you are not comfortable?

          It does not suit that, according to Trump, up to three attack objects should have reached a total of about 75 missiles. Or 25 missiles per object.
          The problem is that this goal does not pull on 25 hit “tomahawks”.

          Even if so. Was it easier for this object that 76, not 48, missiles hit it? And if it were the residence of Assad, located less than 10 km? What if....?
          You are some kind of strange one! Objects designated by the Americans for the attack are torn to pieces and halved. Neither Syrian air defense nor Russian could protect them from the word "completely", and you got to the bottom of the exact number of missiles that hit the target. Now tell me, what difference does it make to you how many missiles have objects wiped off the face of the earth, huh?
          1. 0
            April 17 2018 19: 41
            Quote: Artemy
            Even if so. Was it easier for this object that 76, not 48, missiles hit it? And if it were the residence of Assad, located less than 10 km? What if....?
            You are some kind of strange one! Objects designated by the Americans for the attack are torn to pieces and halved. Neither Syrian air defense nor Russian could protect them from the word "completely", and you got to the bottom of the exact number of missiles that hit the target. Now tell me, what difference does it make to you how many missiles have objects wiped off the face of the earth, huh?

            Yes, they explain to you in Russian that the main objects are covered by air defense and therefore did not suffer! And abandoned buildings are silly to cover air defense!
            1. +1
              April 17 2018 19: 44
              And here it is .... MO RF .. It’s not for nothing that they eat bread ... Enlightened us dark. Abandoned? Applause .... Abandoned because the enemy warned you? It has long been abandoned .... And did it.
              Basic .. Strange, but yesterday the abandoned were the main?
              1. +1
                April 17 2018 19: 56
                Quote: Shahno
                And here it is .... MO RF .. It’s not for nothing that they eat bread ... Enlightened us dark. Abandoned? Applause .... Abandoned because the enemy warned you? It has long been abandoned .... And did it.
                Basic .. Strange, but yesterday the abandoned were the main?

                Applause and standing! And the RF Ministry of Defense did not work here, the merit is purely AAA defense!
              2. 0
                April 17 2018 20: 12
                Quote: Shahno
                And here it is .... MO RF .. It’s not for nothing that they eat bread ... Enlightened us dark. Abandoned? Applause .... Abandoned because the enemy warned you? It has long been abandoned .... And did it.
                Basic .. Strange, but yesterday the abandoned were the main?

                Applause and standing! But the RF Ministry of Defense has nothing to do with it, all the merit belongs to the air defense of the SAR!
        2. +1
          April 17 2018 12: 54
          Well, judging by the photo a dozen and a half horrible and, moreover, at intervals
    2. +17
      April 17 2018 08: 05
      Why lie. Repeat Trump is necessary. After all, no one objects to new blows? To argue, let him launch 1000 tomahawks in Khmeinim this time, as they say and wanted, but they didn’t give him and let's see what happens. Russia's air defense is good. If the Syrian air defense knocked down 70%, then Russia will bring down 100%. I believe Konashennikov as myself. I do not believe Trump. Bullshit of his tomahawk. Iskanders have been laughing with them for a long time.
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        1. +8
          April 17 2018 08: 17
          So who is arguing. Gavnyuki mattresses, of course, no questions. Russia is against terrorism in Syria, not a gas pipeline. But we are discussing the effectiveness of tomahawks against air defense. Everyone says the tomahawks suck, go astray by the ancient Soviet complexes. So I thought, why not. Here Trump says everyone got hit, MO that almost everyone shot down. "Where is the truth brother?"
          1. +6
            April 17 2018 08: 20
            Quote: Glock
            So I thought, why not.

            Why not kill another couple of hundred peaceful Syrians?
            Quote: Glock
            But we are discussing the effectiveness of tomahawks against air defense.

            And let's discuss the effectiveness of your missile defense, say against YRS or Sineva, in the context of a strike against the United States?
            1. +3
              April 17 2018 08: 21
              I think the mattresses will mind. Maybe you’ll be better in Ukraine wassat This is a joke, I'm for the world actually.
              1. +6
                April 17 2018 08: 30
                Quote: Glock
                I think the mattresses will mind.

                What is it? We’ll talk about the use of Poseidon along the US coast so that half of your state is washed away into the ocean. You’re calmly discussing the destruction of the peaceful people in Syria, Iraq ... why not talk about the destruction of a couple of millions of peaceful Americans?
                1. +4
                  April 17 2018 08: 42
                  Talking all over, what is already there smile But Trump said a shmallnit, and a shmalnul, and many here did not believe hehe smile . I’m looking at the fact of the strike on Syria no one cares laughing He shot at Shayrat a year ago, shot now, will shoot again. Especially if the Moscow Region says that all the "smart" tomahawks were shot down, then Trampushka will not like it. It can be crazy once again so that a fool would not be made of him. Here Truman will only swim ..
                  1. +3
                    April 17 2018 08: 56
                    Quote: Glock
                    Here Truman will only swim ..

                    Hmm ... a difficult case. Truman is NOT in the middle, but is on a planned rotation to the Persian Gulf.
                    Quote: Glock
                    But Trump said a shmallnit, and a shmalnul, and many here did not believe hehe

                    So be careful, God forbid, God forbid, at least one hair from the Russian military did not fall. Man. wassat
                    1. +2
                      April 17 2018 09: 06
                      "Hmm ... a bad case. Truman is NOT in the middle, but is on a planned rotation to the Persian Gulf."
                      Tomahawk operational range
                      Block II TLAM-A - 1,350 nmi (1,550 mi; 2,500 km) Block III TLAM-C, Block IV TLAM-E - 900 nmi (1,000 mi; 1,700 km) Block III TLAM-D - 700 nmi (810 mi; 1,300 km )
                      From the top of the Gulf of Syria, everything is shot through, not an argument

                      "So be careful, God forbid, God forbid even one hair from the Russian military did not fall. Man."
                      So Trump said to be friends with Putin wants to know whether to believe or not. That’s cautious. laughing
              2. +3
                April 17 2018 08: 45
                Quote: Glock
                I think the mattresses will mind. Maybe you’ll be better in Ukraine wassat This is a joke, I'm for the world actually.

                And who will ask the opinion of the mattresses? They did not ask Syria, Libya, Iraq, Yugoslavia. Therefore, they deserve not to ask them!
                And Ukraine ... it was they foolishly stuck in it, it’s not their interests (if this is thrown back geopolitics).
                1. +2
                  April 17 2018 08: 54
                  Well, the opinion of Russian mattresses are not asked when they shoot at Syria. So it’s logical to say to Amers like this, you shoot at Syria, we’re at your base in England, for example, where Lavrov says “Novice” they make an arrow. Who didn’t hide is not to blame laughing
                  1. +2
                    April 17 2018 08: 58
                    Quote: Glock
                    Well, the opinion of Russian mattresses are not asked when they shoot at Syria.

                    Thoth so carefully shot back ... wassat
                    1. +2
                      April 17 2018 09: 11
                      They say he wanted to shoot at Khmeinim, but the Pentagon was against it. Who will understand what is in his head. They will tease a monkey with a grenade, saying that all of his axes have failed, he can be crazy, that’s why he lived his own winked
          2. +6
            April 17 2018 08: 42
            Quote: Glock
            Russia is against terrorism in Syria, not a gas pipeline. But we are discussing the effectiveness of tomahawks against air defense. Everyone says the tomahawks suck, go astray by the ancient Soviet complexes. So I thought, why not. Here Trump says everyone got hit, MO that almost everyone shot down. "Where is the truth brother?"

            ------------------------- Tell me, American, what is the strength? Is it in the money? So the brother says that in money. You have a lot of money, and why? .. I think that power is in the truth. Whoever has the truth is stronger. So you deceived someone, made money, and why, have you become stronger? No, I didn’t! Because there is no truth for you! And the one whom he deceived is behind him the truth. So he is stronger.
            1. +1
              April 17 2018 08: 44
              Well done, plus.
        2. +5
          April 17 2018 08: 42
          guy, what are you from the village? Trump pissed into your porch? Why do you insult people at IP address?
          1. +1
            April 17 2018 09: 30
            Just a new patriot bot. Added aggression and pressure a little laughing laughing laughing
      2. +6
        April 17 2018 08: 11
        Quote: Glock
        Why lie. Repeat Trump is necessary. After all, no one objects to new blows? To argue, let him launch 1000 tomahawks in Khmeinim this time, as they say and wanted, but they didn’t give him and let's see what happens. Russia's air defense is good. If the Syrian air defense knocked down 70%, then Russia will bring down 100%. I believe Konashennikov as myself. I do not believe Trump. Bullshit of his tomahawk. Iskanders have been laughing with them for a long time.

        1000 axes will not be beaten. Anti-aircraft missiles are simply not enough. And then you have to attack the media. Although this case is uninhibited, it may end with a big schucher.
      3. +5
        April 17 2018 08: 16
        Quote: Glock
        For argument, let him launch 1000 tomahawks in Khmeinim


        hrenase dispute will turn out .. no tomahawks or boats .. won’t grind the topic again in the next branch .. about the shelling of the airfields ... the same daisy .. they didn’t bring down .. the Israeli and American comrades shout it was not us and there were no missiles .. wassat wassat

        and here all the evidence of the fragments of axes is required ..
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      4. +4
        April 17 2018 08: 27
        Quote: Glock
        I believe Konashennikov as myself. I do not believe Trump. Bullshit of his tomahawk. Iskanders have been laughing with them for a long time.

        The Tolley affair of the US State Department, if all its fakes are laid out, will be a multi-volume. And you also know that what you dumped in the USA, Russia has not lost anything. Moreover, it has become cleaner
        1. +2
          April 17 2018 08: 30
          So I'm not from Russia, I'm a bulbash. Do not look at the Amer’s flag; I use vpn; if you want, I’ll change it to Russian. But the speed is slower than in Amer
          1. +1
            April 17 2018 11: 31
            Quote: Glock
            I'm bulbash

            It is noticeable
      5. +2
        April 17 2018 08: 38
        Quote: Glock
        To argue, let him launch 1000 tomahawks in Khmeinim this time, as they say and wanted, but he wasn’t given and we’ll see what happens

        ======
        Well, my friend! To launch 1 “Tomahawks” he needs to drag the WHOLE fleet into the Eastern Mediterranean ..... So, this is from the field of “unscientific fiction”!
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      7. +2
        April 17 2018 09: 13
        There then, not only the air defense will work out and the Americans will not even have anything to bury, they will simply list the staff list of the crews of ships and bases.
      8. +2
        April 17 2018 09: 16
        The mattress tablet is sloppy, by mistake I put you a plus.
      9. +2
        April 17 2018 10: 46
        Oh, sorry to fight you will not work here)))
        Quote: Glock
        For argument, let him launch 1000 tomahawks in Khmeinim this time

        But will it be time to launch 1000? I didn’t shoot at the RF Armed Forces, therefore the carriers are intact, 1000 missiles will not have time to leave the PU ...
        Quote: Glock
        as they say he wanted and yes he was not given

        Because those who did not give no fools and understood the consequences of direct contact with the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Be careful. I do not want a war, I think in which case, little will not seem to anyone. Better so, on the forum to swear and sleep peacefully good
    3. +4
      April 17 2018 08: 09

      Was this photograph already - the same, but from a different angle?
    4. +3
      April 17 2018 08: 09
      in general, of course, it would be nice if, apart from words, there would be confirmation in the form of photographs. In a world where lies are piled on lies, exposing the lies is the first and main thing. It is necessary to photograph ALL affected objects, count the president accurately and facts to the pillory, brand him with the seal of a liar, somewhere in the UN session. Then he may turn red or white.
      1. +1
        April 17 2018 09: 00
        Quote: Bar1
        in general, of course, it would be nice if, apart from words, there would be confirmation in the form of photographs. In a world where lies are piled on lies, exposing the lies is the first and main thing. It is necessary to photograph ALL affected objects, count the president accurately and facts to the pillory, brand him with the seal of a liar, somewhere in the UN session. Then he may turn red or white.

        I think ours are waiting to lie completely, and then present photos and material evidence, or help Trampush save face, the SGA military knows what flew and what they shot down ..... hi
      2. +1
        April 17 2018 09: 29
        Quote: Bar1
        in general, of course, it would be nice if, apart from words, there would be confirmation in the form of photographs.

        Have you heard about photoshop? So this is not the coolest image program ... what
        1. +2
          April 17 2018 09: 56
          Quote: NIKNN
          Quote: Bar1
          in general, of course, it would be nice if, apart from words, there would be confirmation in the form of photographs.

          Have you heard about photoshop? So this is not the coolest image program ... what


          100% falsification of military or civilian objects is not possible. A well-made photo will NEVER be faked, let alone miss something and professionals know about it. For example, American counterfeits on the moon now cause only laughter.
          1. +2
            April 17 2018 10: 02
            Well, for social networks, and this is the main source for our partners, there is no need for extra efforts. I mean, today it’s not worth even believing in official documents ... So, only as a witness can you personally believe in something, and even then you scratch your turnip if it’s a holography ... laughing
            1. +1
              April 17 2018 10: 08
              Quote: NIKNN
              Well, for social networks, and this is the main source for our partners, there is no need for extra efforts. I mean, today it’s not worth even believing in official documents ... So, only as a witness can you personally believe in something, and even then you scratch your turnip if it’s a holography ... laughing


              How are you going to personally verify this? It is necessary to come to Syria, get permission to photograph military objects, this can only be done with permission from the very top, so you need to create a commission and carefully carry out all the work to identify the affected objects. Then gather the press and present all the evidence. Here, step by step, you need to beat every false statement of the West, and this is how information wars win.
              1. +2
                April 17 2018 10: 21
                Quote: Bar1
                How are you going to personally verify this?

                I am not going to request it was like you needed.
                Quote: Bar1
                in general, of course, it would be nice if, apart from words, there would be confirmation in the form of photographs. In a world where lies are piled on lies, exposing the lies is the first and main thing. It is necessary to photograph ALL affected objects, count the president accurately and facts to the pillory, brand him with the seal of a liar, somewhere in the UN session. Then he may turn red or white.
                What is the point? It is not really not clear that all the stupid and "shameful pillar" in the UN so far is not set for the US president. Of course it is necessary to react, only without fanaticism, the deaf will not hear anything anyway ... the fool will not understand ... Fill them with any evidence, they will say fake and without evidence, that’s all. If there are missile attacks without evidence, what’s there still to prove? request
                1. 0
                  April 17 2018 10: 33
                  Quote: NIKNN
                  What is the point?


                  but the meaning is simple, you need to maintain true faith among your people with true information, because I also have faith, after Putin confidently dialed 77 and after Putin’s cartoons I’m not going to believe everything they say.
                  1. +2
                    April 17 2018 10: 38
                    Quote: Bar1
                    I, too, on faith, after Putin confidently dialed 77 and after Putin's cartoons I’m not going to believe everything they say.

                    Believe it or not, everyone’s right. request hi
                    1. 0
                      April 17 2018 10: 51
                      Quote: NIKNN
                      Quote: Bar1
                      I, too, on faith, after Putin confidently dialed 77 and after Putin's cartoons I’m not going to believe everything they say.

                      Believe it or not, everyone’s right. request hi


                      it’s already priestly things, you need to believe the real facts, and not the deceitful top ...
    5. +9
      April 17 2018 08: 30
      and as evidence of a fragment of French and the remains of Soviet missiles in the photo for the article?
      Trampushka, of course, svizdit, but our talking heads will also give him a head start, with a stroke of the pen killing 70 targets
      1. +6
        April 17 2018 08: 54
        Quote: Tlauicol
        Trampushka, of course, svizdit, but our talking heads will also give him a head start, with a stroke of the pen killing 70 targets

        yes it was known in advance. the scheme after Shayrat worked out. Sit back in the bushes until an ally is bombed, and then announce that most of the Syrians were shot down - they say they managed to do it themselves. And before that, scream, like, hold me seven, just touch Asadushka, we’ll tear right away! Although yesterday the photo was laid out where this center, which the Yankees had erased into powder, was 10 km from Assad’s palace. Like the harsh Syrian pvoshniki, with an experienced look, they determined exactly where the axes were flying and did not begin to shoot them down
        1. +2
          April 17 2018 08: 57
          after which it became a vlom to rummage 10km from Assad’s palace, but not a vlom to collect the remains of their air defense missiles? Yes
      2. +1
        April 17 2018 09: 03
        And I read comments and that's what I noticed, at once everyone forgot about the “agreement”, although for two days this version was procrastinated. laughing Well, why, a sickly agreement like this came out, based on this article, allowed Red to save his mug at the cost of relentless dipping his own face with a red mug, in brown slurry crying And this is for a long time. negative
    6. +2
      April 17 2018 08: 34
      Trump is right. Russia has not shot down more than one of their missiles. There was no need. They shot down Syrian air defense. lol
    7. +4
      April 17 2018 08: 34
      Quote: NEXUS
      Photo of objects destroyed by axes in the studio

      The fact of the matter is that the Americans' position is LOSING in any situation. To admit that they shot down is bad, to say that they did not shoot down is the same bad, because the damage that they did ... rightly, 100 rockets are not worth it
    8. +3
      April 17 2018 08: 55
      "There were demons but they self-destructed" (c)
    9. +3
      April 17 2018 08: 56
      Quote: NEXUS
      Photo of objects destroyed by axes in the studio

      Russians all lie all the rockets 103 pieces fell into this barn.
    10. 0
      April 17 2018 10: 16
      And then what is it?
      The newest top-secret American missiles came to Russian specialists.

      In addition to the fact that the latest American air-to-ground missiles launched by the B-1 Lancer strategic supersonic bombers were not able to hit the intended targets, they fell into the hands of Russian specialists. At the moment, it is known that fragments of cruise missiles are actively studied by Russian scientists and experts, which, most likely, will allow us to evaluate the development of the American military and create an effective countermeasure. On the other hand, it is important to consider that the Pentagon continues to maintain that all missiles fired by American aircraft hit the established targets, and were not intercepted by Syrian air defense systems, as reported by the Russian military. On the other hand, more than a hundred cruise missiles launched through Syria did little to cause damage, which makes us think about the information provided by the US Department of Defense.

      It is necessary to clarify that the strategic bombers B-1 Lancer fired at least 12 of the latest secret cruise missiles in Syria, however, for unknown reasons, they could not hit the targets, while the crews of supersonic aircraft made a wrong place for entering a combat position.

      http://avia.pro/news/innovacionnaya-amerikanskaya
      -razrabotka-okazalas-v-rukah-rossii
    11. +2
      April 17 2018 10: 45
      Andrey, UAVs are not so cool. That's when the camera is on the Ax .... This is killer proof. And I think there are shots of hit Axes, but they are classified. laughing
    12. +1
      April 17 2018 16: 51
      Moreover, there you can get video from the "tomahawks", they have a built-in channel of two-way encrypted communication, through which a bunch of parameters are transmitted during the flight. But probably it’s not interesting ... to watch how an “ax” for 1,5 million bucks is shot down by an expensive Soviet missile 40 years ago, not every American general can withstand the nervous system.
    13. 0
      April 18 2018 02: 26
      Trumpaldino from Fashington zhzhot!
  2. +6
    April 17 2018 07: 55
    I introduce a new designation of inadequacy-Tramponuty.
    1. 0
      April 17 2018 08: 04
      I introduce a new designation of inadequacy-Tramponuty.


      smile Trumped ... well, all gone Trump ...
      cliche Trump ...
      Maniac Donald Duck ...
      Trumpinator (from terminator), Trumpamaniac (from maniac), Trumpastrophie (from catastrophie), Trumpocalypse (from apocalypse), Trumpenstein (from Frankenstein) ...
      Trumpletoes (trample - stomp and tread on one's toes - hurt feelings, step on a sore spot) ...
      https://iq.hse.ru/news/200319000.html
      smile
    2. +1
      April 17 2018 08: 29
      Quote: shinobi
      I introduce a new designation of inadequacy-Tramponuty.

      If I call someone on the website, Trampanuty, do I need to refer to the SINOBI nickname, in accordance with copyright law?
  3. +2
    April 17 2018 07: 56
    Well sho it remains? lie, lie, lie to the last.
    1. +2
      April 17 2018 08: 02
      Lt. Col. Monika Lewinsky is already on the way with a cigar in the shape of Tomahawk smile
      1. +1
        April 17 2018 08: 05
        Quote: Thrall
        Monica Lewinsky


        She’s ready under the table. wink

        hi
      2. +1
        April 17 2018 08: 16
        Lt. Col. Monika Lewinsky is already on the way with a cigar in the shape of Tomahawk
        good

        Well, what kind of perverts are there ... I would like to see her orgies in the oral office of the White House ...
        if only ROSKOMNADZOR would not block it.
  4. 0
    April 17 2018 07: 56
    sink destroyers with Aegis and also unlock ... what to do: new rules now ...
    1. +4
      April 17 2018 08: 01
      Do not worry, they themselves will drown and dump on Russia. the mad dog had only to bite its tail.
      1. +1
        April 17 2018 08: 14
        So yes, to arrange a semblance of an incident in the Gulf of Tonkin with them like two fingers.
  5. +3
    April 17 2018 07: 58
    They say they shot down 40 missiles, 50, but in fact not a single missile was shot down. Their systems just didn't work.
    Even the red demon is lying in the details, the Russian Ministry of Defense officially voiced 71 shot down missiles, the tramp shell of that warrior, a couple more of these attacks and he will ruin the US army ... laughing not a bit changing the balance of power in the world ....
    1. +5
      April 17 2018 08: 16
      And why "only" 71? Why not 79 or 81? wink Initially, the Syrians (they shot down, the Russian Ministry of Defense so “said”) announced 13 missiles shot down - which is more logical and believable, and so to speak, “in hot pursuit”, and then other, all “growing” figures appeared.
      1. +5
        April 17 2018 08: 33
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        And why "only" 71? Why not 79 or 81?

        And why do they have a place to be, do not tell? American, your government supports ISIS, AN-NUSRU, the fascist regime in Ukraine ... it killed 2,5 million people in Iraq, lying to the whole world.
      2. 0
        April 17 2018 08: 34
        They’ll collect all the debris and then they’ll definitely count you. Do you really care laughing . Tell me better, do you believe Trump?
        1. +4
          April 17 2018 08: 45
          In the first paragraph: "why"? "Yes, in a swing," So it’s necessary and so it will continue. No one in the USA decree-do what they want, period. It's a shame, huh? Sorry. winked
          According to the second “point”: But I don’t believe anyone .... I only believe in “dad Müller” (he said, he can be) ..wink We are waiting for the collection of the debris of 71 missiles .... tongue
          1. 0
            April 17 2018 08: 57
            #1
            "It's a shame, right? I'm sorry."
            Nope, no offense wink
            #2
            "And I do not believe anyone ...."
            But in vain do not believe Trampushka, you have to believe laughing
            #3
            We are waiting for the collection of the wreckage of 71 missiles ... "
            I'm afraid you will not wait laughing laughing
          2. +1
            April 17 2018 09: 02
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            In the first paragraph: "why"? "Yes, in a swing," So it’s necessary and so it will continue. No one in the USA decree-do what they want, period. It's a shame, huh? Sorry.

            With great sympathy, I will soon say that some of your base in Syria has turned into dust, along with your finished warriors. And you know, sympathy will not be sincere.
            And about the second strike ... well, in Syria there are several thousand of our citizens, and I think it’s impossible to catch them. And then we will see what will happen ...
            1. +2
              April 17 2018 09: 51
              Well, you know where the "needle" of the United States is hidden? That's right: in the financial sphere, in the global financial system, which they created the last century and which belongs to them .. And you need to beat only there. It is necessary to ruin this system, to discredit its levers and "institutions." Notice how the Americans played back when the senators, who played in sanctions, were too zealous, wanted to ban operations with securities of the Russian state loan? And why? Yes, because the point is not in the American holders of these securities, but in undermining the foundation, one of the foundations on which the entire world financial system rests. By the way, Russia understands where to beat: now in Venezuela, not without Russian help, the first state cryptocurrency, “petro,” is circulating. The Americans are closely watching this and are trying to bring Maduro down, by all means, because they understand the whole threat to themselves from this, such as an "innocent" action. And missiles .... strikes at the bases .... oh, leave that small-minded, stereotypedly thinking military-let yourself have fun .... the real "war" is now unfolding in a completely different area .... Yes
          3. +2
            April 17 2018 09: 58
            And why the hell are we? Well, you believe Muller - a flag in his hands and a drum on his neck. We are somehow up to the lamp. At present, our MO is not yet noticed in a lie. There will be facts and we will say, but again, it is our business to whom to believe, to whom not. Your advice is somehow not interested. Each for himself decides who to believe. Lately, your evidence has been based on the principle that they exist, but we will not show them. They are secret. So up to the lamp.
            1. +1
              April 17 2018 10: 15
              At present, our MO is not yet noticed in a lie.

              Yeah ..... winked someone there, something from the "game" laid out to make the "proof" ..... well, the well-known "ichtamnet" .... winked
              1. +2
                April 17 2018 10: 19
                So what? Any other facts? After that jamb, it seems to me that someone’s ass corrected ....
                At least we don’t do productions like the poisoning of Skripals and chemical attacks ....
                1. 0
                  April 17 2018 10: 30
                  At least, we don’t do productions like the poisoning of Skripals and chemical attacks ...

                  Well ... let's say this: there are different opinions on this. For example, the so-called "Ryazan teachings of 1999" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGqfF8NEn6Y
                  1. +1
                    April 17 2018 10: 32
                    Yeah, you still remember what happened during the time of Emperor Nicholas .... I had enough of the collapse of the army in the 90s. And what is happening now with the Russian Armed Forces cannot but rejoice. And judging by the reaction of the "partners" this is also very "pleasing" to them. So chill that the number of provocations just rolls over ....
          4. +1
            April 17 2018 21: 47
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            We are waiting for the collection of the debris of 71 missiles ....

            But to open my eyes and think a little, it’s not fate at all ... that the mattresses are bawling on every corner-Assad must leave! Second, don’t kill the moderate opposition!
            On the first point, Assad remained in power, the offensive is proceeding as usual, all airfields, bases and command posts work the same way.
            According to the second paragraph, Who will greatly repent of the expense and spit on the cries of Washington.
            And yes, and your bases in Syria, dear, on what basis are you located? Assad gave you the go-ahead or the UN? What did they forget in Syria?
            Lastly, read your constitution and make sure Trump violates it. Here is your president, and you mattresses in a compartment with him.
            1. 0
              April 18 2018 06: 10
              "The opinion of the Sheriff Indians is not interested ....."
              1. 0
                April 18 2018 10: 45
                Quote: Monster_Fat
                "The opinion of the Sheriff Indians is not interested ....."

                Here ... with you criminals and for the genocide of the Indians should be asked.
          5. 0
            April 18 2018 02: 35
            The Bedouins have probably already collected them, they will color, if you please, in the price. I know that after training firing at the training ground, the entire local population does not run into the forest for mushrooms and berries, but for debris from rockets.
      3. +5
        April 17 2018 08: 48
        And they say that our propaganda does not work well. Such a number of gullible even in the USSR was not, people do not want to analyze and think, or most likely they live calmer. With their lies, both sides drive themselves into a dead end, even for domestic consumption, and that is too much.
        1. +6
          April 17 2018 09: 05
          "people" do not understand one thing - the capitalist "elite" in any country is the same and thinks and acts the same way. And so the people (in their own country) think of the “primitives”, who only need to eat, copulate, pump up beer and have fun .... Hence the same, primitive lie ... - and so come down, the main thing is more “incendiary” words .... they are so "start" ...
  6. +6
    April 17 2018 08: 01
    Hitler also did not believe that the Russians would take Berlin, Donnie must return to reality.
  7. +1
    April 17 2018 08: 03
    You listen to the trump and the classic is remembered: "Here you are not a church, They do not cheat here"
  8. +4
    April 17 2018 08: 03
    For some reason, everyone believes the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and no one Tramponutomu, although they have not presented any evidence, they simply "officially" stated. In general, all the same, the main thing is "we are cooler, and they are shit." How is this - "cheers patriotism" called?
    1. +3
      April 17 2018 08: 12
      Not. it’s just that Konashennikov sounds more convincing than Trump, and he was not even noticed in a lie.
      Can MO lie?
    2. +2
      April 17 2018 08: 15
      Quote: Rijaz-SS
      In general, all the same, the main thing is "we are cooler, and they are shit." How is this - "cheers patriotism" called?

      That's exactly what it is called. And he thrives, as you can see, on both sides of the Atlantic and Pacific oceans.
    3. +1
      April 17 2018 08: 42
      Quote: Rijaz-SS
      For some reason, everyone believes the Russian Defense Ministry and no one Tramponutom

      And here is your lie! A decent number of people are sawing for Trump and the infallible Pentagon. You carefully study the history of the issue, at least for the last day. And then draw conclusions hi
    4. 0
      April 17 2018 23: 58
      Quote: Rijaz-SS
      How is this - "cheers patriotism" called?

      It’s not called ... take a look at the result. What do we have? Assad in power, the offensive continues, all strategic objects work as usual. What did the mattress achieve? The descenting of their super weapons, the tarnished image of their Armed Forces and the apparent unwillingness to contact us in a direct military conflict.
      And now the question is: Was there a missile strike and is this recognized by everything that has changed in the situation before and after? And who was the winner in the outcome?
  9. +2
    April 17 2018 08: 05
    could in this article show the photos of the downed Tomahawks so as not to disgrace
  10. +2
    April 17 2018 08: 05
    That's right, the "exclusive" president will not say that he screwed up with a blow, and in fact his missiles are not so smart and invulnerable.
  11. +2
    April 17 2018 08: 05
    "... They say they shot down 40 missiles, 50, but in fact not a single missile was shot down. Their systems simply didn’t work ....."
    =================
    Hmm yes! There was once, back in Soviet times, such an anecdote:
    "From a TASS statement:
    Today, at 11.00:XNUMX Moscow time, in the Kremlin, NOT CONSCIOUS, Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev ... received ..... the ambassador of Belgium, for the ambassador of Bulgaria ....
    After a 2-hour long conversation that took place in a warm, friendly and businesslike atmosphere, the Belgian ambassador agreed to deploy Soviet medium-range missiles in Belgium. However, the ambassador expressed bewilderment, where did his country take so many tomatoes to pay for arms supplies for the Belgian army ..... "
    (Who remembers the glorious times of Leonid Ilyich will appreciate ...).
    It seems - the situation has changed places - now the "mattresses" own "ilich" seem to have acquired ......
    Interesting - HE actually understands WHAT exactly says ??? Or does his tongue and brain work separately from each other?
    1. +1
      April 17 2018 08: 11
      everyone has already lied ... no one can be trusted. "elite" Mlyn ... global degradation.
      1. +2
        April 17 2018 08: 21
        Peter the Great issued a decree which ordered "to not give a word to the red-haired and crooked in the courts, because there is no faith for them, ... but God does mark the huck!"
    2. +2
      April 17 2018 08: 30
      Yes, it is not necessary to repeat the fables of the traitors-liberalists and imagine Leonid Ilyich the most senile of all the senile. He was smarter than many of the current ones, including in the Kremlin.
  12. +4
    April 17 2018 08: 08
    When a madman fights in hysterics. And the West behaves just like that. Beat on the cabbage. I propose switching the whole West from his fool The mass media are terrible. It’s not that they forgot about Skripals. It’s very easy. They conduct naval exercises on the legend of which. A small dirty island declares war on Russia. the dirty island is in a military agreement with the country to which all the crazy have come. (so declare it) And therefore, near the coast of this country, there are also "a dozen Poseidon" ready to strike.
    They wedge a wedge. They need to be brought back to reality. Better to crowd up about the really dangerous problem for them. It’s time to literally deprive them of sleep. Otherwise, this nonsense with hackers and chemistry cannot be stopped. Now something else needs to be done by Trump fool to prove to tweets. Better on forums about how they will be taken off from "Paseidon" laughing
  13. +5
    April 17 2018 08: 12
    That's right - Russia did not intercept missiles. The Syrians themselves did everything ...

    I didn’t even have to bother ...
    1. +3
      April 17 2018 08: 31
      Quote: Masya Masya
      I didn’t even have to bother ...

      =======
      Yes, of course! I’ll take off my cap (if I find it), but I’m convinced that the radiometers had to “poke” not weakly. The fact is that Syrians do not have such perfect stations as the S-400. And target designation is the most important thing! As the familiar air defense officer said (he served his services on the Neva and Buki): "Timely and competent target designation is MORE than half success!
      Yes, and EW sheep, hardly sitting idle .....
  14. +1
    April 17 2018 08: 15
    Trump forgot to add a highlie likly.
    1. 0
      April 17 2018 08: 35
      "believe highly like" wink
  15. +2
    April 17 2018 08: 16
    If he meant that the targets were the clashes between the Tomahawks and Syrian air defense in the air ... I can agree almost all the targets were hit)))
  16. +3
    April 17 2018 08: 19
    In the course of Borya Johnson still bit Trump during the last meeting ... sad
  17. +5
    April 17 2018 08: 20
    Stop calling pin-ups "Americans", this offends normal people from South America.
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  19. +2
    April 17 2018 08: 27
    Trump-trump, para-pump. In short, an empty bell. All this he spews for the Internet, there he is a "hero"!
  20. 0
    April 17 2018 08: 28
    The Syrians themselves did everything
    It’s ridiculous to read about Syrian rocket launchers, about the “cube”, “wasp”, etc. didn’t our team take the opportunity to shoot the c300 and c400 in real life?
    1. +1
      April 17 2018 08: 35
      These missiles are designed for more expensive purposes. F22 and so on. At the konashenok briefing, he said that shells were involved and 27 missiles were shot down. So Russia was not standing aside.
      1. +1
        April 17 2018 09: 56
        The Syrians were assigned 4 divisions, (36) "Shell". So these are their victims.
  21. +3
    April 17 2018 08: 38
    It's funny to read stupid things from the president of the USA.
    It’s also funny to read nonsense from our General Staff.
    On the day of the strike, ALL Russian missile defense systems were fully operational.
    This fact slipped through the TV channels.
    So our attack system worked to its fullest and tracked ALL launches.
    Both in the Red Sea and in the Mediterranean.
    The system guides the object both in height, and in speed, and along the trajectory, and along the estimated place of impact.
    These are its properties and capabilities.
    Also, the anti-missile defense system and the Khmeinin base must be activated without fail.
    And idle talk that we did not activate it in order to disguise - a conversation for the demented.
    Everyone already knows about her.
    And it is necessary for defense, not for attack. If the system did not work, then there was a 100% guarantee that no ax would hit the base, even by accident. And who will give such a guarantee?
    If in conjunction with the Americans were both French and British?
    Their missiles are still sovereign from the Americans.
    Can randomness be ruled out? Not.
    So it smells like some cheap vaudeville.
    And the most important thing.
    Any rocket must end its path somewhere.
    And get into the object, or it was destroyed by the air defense forces.
    If it hits an object, that is, destruction. If she was shot down, that is, debris.
    Our military did not provide either one or the other.
    False. Around one lie. They all lie.
    To keep your tongues dry.
  22. +2
    April 17 2018 08: 42
    Strange, one can often hear about the importance of the information war, but at the same time they ignore it. Trump said that all the missiles have reached their goal - present in retaliation a photo of the downed tomahawks, let it rub off. All is not needed, 2-3 is enough. What a trump card in the hands, what kind of advertising is a weapon, because buyers usually do not believe words and brochures (give them the facts). I don’t think that it’s more difficult to detect and just take a photograph of a shot down object than to carry an ammunition replenishment for an air defense system.
    1. +3
      April 17 2018 08: 48
      Why take pictures if Photoshop is at hand and faster and safer. Or, at worst, a cartoon to crap like a Syrian air defense tomahawks mows.
      1. 0
        April 17 2018 12: 41
        Well, it’s dumb to use photoshop now, the people painfully cunning went, for cartoons (high-quality) money is needed (and people with hands and a head). But click on the photo (unless of course there is something) - a trifling matter.
  23. 0
    April 17 2018 08: 45
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    And why "only" 71? Why not 79 or 81? wink Initially, the Syrians (they shot down, the Russian Ministry of Defense so “said”) announced 13 missiles shot down - which is more logical and believable, and so to speak, “in hot pursuit”, and then other, all “growing” figures appeared.

    The Syrians announced 13 shot down missiles only during the defense of a single air base, I do not remember the name. But the bottom line is that 71, this is the sum stop And the numbers probably grow by the fact that it is mathematics, as information arrives, an elementary addition of numbers occurs laughing
    1. 0
      April 17 2018 10: 21
      Well, it’s necessary .... It’s like it, Mikhalych ..... I didn’t know, I didn’t know .... You just opened your eyes to me .... Now everything is seen in a completely different light ... .Well, thank you! winked
  24. +1
    April 17 2018 08: 51
    Trampusha was shot down not 40 and not 50 but 70! good tongue
  25. 0
    April 17 2018 08: 52
    To shoot down modern cruise missiles using long-obsolete weapons produced in the USSR 30 years ago is the same as shooting missiles using stone throwers from the time of the Kulikovo battle brought from Ryazan.
    1. +5
      April 17 2018 09: 05
      Quote: alta
      To shoot down modern cruise missiles using long-obsolete weapons produced in the USSR 30 years ago is the same as shooting missiles using stone throwers from the time of the Kulikovo battle brought from Ryazan.

      And when the latest stealth in Yugoslavia was shot down by an obsolete Soviet missile, what kind of battle was it, Kulikovskaya or another?
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  27. 0
    April 17 2018 09: 01
    But what will the ax debris photo give in general? From them, how can it be understood whether these axes of the Syrian air defense were destroyed, or are these fragments of the 103s that, according to Trump, successfully hit all the targets?
  28. +1
    April 17 2018 09: 02
    Recall the old, there is a lie, a gross lie and statistics ... Everything should be very simple ... Occam's razor, yes ...
    Who benefits ... Where is the money of our elite and the reserve fund, right ... The conclusion, and what Trump says, and what the RF Ministry of Defense voiced is written in one office ... Hello 90s ... And maybe they did not leave ...
  29. +1
    April 17 2018 09: 04
    You will not praise yourself, nor will anyone praise *
  30. 0
    April 17 2018 09: 06
    According to the representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, not one airfield has serious damage.
    "On Duvali airfield, 4 missiles were used - all shot down. On Dumeir airfield, 12 missiles, all shot down. On Bley airfield, 18 missiles, all shot down. Shairat airfield, 12 missiles, all shot down. On the Mezze airfield - 2 missiles, 9 shot down. On Homs airfield - 5 missiles, 16 shot down, "said the Russian general.

    For all these points I will not say, I do not know. But on the airfield Tifor, where two of the two fired missiles were shot down, such a frame appeared somewhere in the network: I treat such frames with caution. This may be a fake Photoshop. More recently, judging by the Google satellite images, Tifor looked like this:
    Google coordinates: 34.51722,37.63139
    Just enter (copy) in maps this figure in the search box.
  31. +4
    April 17 2018 09: 13
    Well, what’s your right to get caught ... Well, I want Trump to think so ... for God's sake ... If only he didn’t write anything in tweet ... How could a child entertain it ... if only it would not cry ...
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    1. 0
      April 17 2018 10: 13
      Quote from rudolf
      One side always understates losses, the other exaggerates victories and both lie.

      Even if victory is multiplied, the fact of a missile strike takes place to be ... a question, friend, why did they destroy it? Well, logically, what mattresses should have done first ... let's remember Iraq. Suppress air defense. Right? And where is not even the statement of our MO and mattresses about this? M
  33. +2
    April 17 2018 09: 44
    Quote: Artemy
    Quote: NEXUS

    Each strike by Caliber is accompanied by a video, photo and report ..

    Really?


    Here is 2 Caliber collapsed along the road (there are still photos of the same). Show me when the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported their loss, rather than reporting that "All fired missiles accurately hit the assigned targets"? That's it.
    video hit axes where?

    In the pictures, CEP. Americans declared 3 goals. From the stated goals there was no stone unturned. What other proof do you have?
    Previously, mattresses were so fond of such shows that even Hillary pissed with boiling water and was emptied with bricks the size of the ones that built the pyramids.

    Arguments ended and went name-calling, like in a kindergarten? And this is against the background of Apache and a video from a computer game? It’s funny.


    And how did you determine that it was a bunch of calibers, and not a broken-up Ammers UAV?
    1. 0
      April 17 2018 11: 57
      Quote: sib.ataman

      And how did you determine that it was a bunch of calibers, and not a broken-up Ammers UAV?

      Just as I determine that it is a Lada, not a Chevrolet, CEP. Objections that this Caliber is?
  34. +3
    April 17 2018 09: 45
    Both sides are unproven. Americans and Co. Shown a photo of three of some ruins in the format "before and after." What was there - no one knows. Russian Defense Ministry also posted a photo of "some" debris. Both of them have a reason to lie and both of them were caught in a lie ... Therefore, we must take the statements of these "figures", find the arithmetic mean, divide by two, put it into three and extract the square root.
    1. +1
      April 17 2018 10: 10
      Quote: tchoni
      . Therefore, we must take the statements of these "figures", find the arithmetic mean, divide by two, subtract by three and extract the square root.

      After a missile strike, the Syrians took to the streets celebrating a victory ... apparently by the stub, there were only three objects that were aimed at by a hundred axes of mattresses. Our correspondent was in Damascus at the time of the shelling, and the fact that the mattresses hit Damascus, and air defense (not the fact that the Syrian) worked was taking place. By the way, the airfields then work as usual and command posts too. By the way, knowing the tactics of mattresses, logically, they had to first suppress the radar and air defense of Syria. Something I do not hear from the same mattress such statements about the destruction of Syrian air defense ...
  35. +3
    April 17 2018 09: 51
    Quote: Artemy
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Artemy
    Photos of objects laid out in the trash were laid out repeatedly. The US DoD said about them initially that you are not comfortable?

    So present these acts of the United States against the army, which is fighting with ISIS. Just not cheap fakes.

    A hundred times already, but if you are not enough ...




    If the GDP, then cartoons! And if the padding is 100% proof! Yes, you at least change your diapers, we do not care about your diarrhea. Want a replay, risk your health! Pampers stock up! A better pills for diarrhea!
    1. +1
      April 17 2018 10: 35
      Quote: sib.ataman
      Want a replay, risk your health!

      So it was a repeat.
  36. +3
    April 17 2018 10: 03
    Quote: Artemy
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Artemy
    What are normal then? Such?

    I do not understand, the diagnosis of MEI is contagious?

    Can you communicate coherently? What is wrong with these pictures?


    Yes, the diagnosis is on the face! He has the same mattress for all the mattresses, sprinkle ashes on his head, and the great mustachioed and striped mattress can mold lentil soup with the best bad guys. Yes, give it to you yourself! You get it as long as you get rid of normal people’s heads, and as the need for such miscarriages disappears, so repeat the path of Skripal!
    1. +1
      April 17 2018 10: 49
      Quote: sib.ataman
      Quote: Artemy
      Quote: NEXUS
      Quote: Artemy
      What are normal then? Such?

      I do not understand, the diagnosis of MEI is contagious?

      Can you communicate coherently? What is wrong with these pictures?


      Yes, the diagnosis is on the face! He has the same mattress for all the mattresses, sprinkle ashes on his head, and the great mustachioed and striped mattress can mold lentil soup with the best bad guys. Yes, give it to you yourself! You get it as long as you get rid of normal people’s heads, and as the need for such miscarriages disappears, so repeat the path of Skripal!

      Imagine this is how you argue your point of view even here. But did they send you somewhere to "enemy" resources to defend the interests of the homeland? After all, there you’ll not be able to hold two posts with your “arguments” like: “I went to the forest”, “You are sick” and “You are American henchman”
      Do you understand now why in the world less and less people want to communicate with you?
  37. +2
    April 17 2018 10: 07
    Quote: Leeds
    Can you explain the meaning of the abbreviation "DB"?
    While I was in the bathhouse for the abbreviation, I missed a bit, so Mikhan VO decided about the wreckage of 73 shot down missiles. Just interested


    What place was lathering? Interested in?
  38. +1
    April 17 2018 10: 12
    America, and especially the Pentagon, doesn’t recognize the life of 70% missiles, because is a grandiose scandal
  39. +3
    April 17 2018 10: 22
    Quote: tchoni
    Both sides are unproven. Americans and Co. Shown a photo of three of some ruins in the format "before and after." What was there - no one knows. Russian Defense Ministry also posted a photo of "some" debris. Both of them have a reason to lie and both of them were caught in a lie ... Therefore, we must take the statements of these "figures", find the arithmetic mean, divide by two, put it into three and extract the square root.


    Let the pace bookkeepers count! They love it! The logic of the analysis, in this case, is very simple - there are no serious destruction and casualties, what kind of attack efficiency can we talk about, in principle?
  40. +2
    April 17 2018 10: 26
    Quote from rudolf
    Why break the spears, anyway, no one will know the truth. One side always understates losses, the other exaggerates victories and both lie. The laws of the genre. That I didn’t bring down a single rocket - I don’t believe that they put two-thirds out of a hundred on the ground - all the more I don’t believe it.


    I believe, I do not believe! Go to church pray, Thomas is an unbeliever! A better communion and repent!
  41. +2
    April 17 2018 10: 28
    Quote: Vard
    Well, what’s your right to get caught ... Well, I want Trump to think so ... for God's sake ... If only he didn’t write anything in tweet ... How could a child entertain it ... if only it would not cry ...


    If only for yourself not a shit! And then a lot of stink!
  42. +3
    April 17 2018 10: 48
    Quote: Topotun
    And what about the fakes? It is very necessary to crawl around the airbases collecting debris. Meaning? Anyway, the Western media simply will not show them. They will announce that this is Kremlin propaganda. The military in Syria already has something to do. If you are sure that ALL 103 missiles (based on satellite images shown by the Americans) went down on those two objects, then just think that there would be half the successive impact of almost 20 tons of explosives (103 times 150-300 kg in the warhead). There should not even have been walls.

    In the 14th year in Donetsk, I saw the consequences after hitting Point U, so there was a funnel more than after getting 103 tomahawks belay
    1. 0
      April 17 2018 10: 53
      Quote: 72jora72
      Quote: Topotun
      And what about the fakes? It is very necessary to crawl around the airbases collecting debris. Meaning? Anyway, the Western media simply will not show them. They will announce that this is Kremlin propaganda. The military in Syria already has something to do. If you are sure that ALL 103 missiles (based on satellite images shown by the Americans) went down on those two objects, then just think that there would be half the successive impact of almost 20 tons of explosives (103 times 150-300 kg in the warhead). There should not even have been walls.

      In the 14th year in Donetsk, I saw the consequences after hitting Point U, so there was a funnel more than after getting 103 tomahawks belay


      Yes it is, but the tomahawks seem to fly horizontally to the target, and the point has drifted vertically.
  43. +1
    April 17 2018 10: 50
    Today's tagline: "Americans are liars."
  44. 0
    April 17 2018 10: 51
    An ordinary information war has begun, according to the principle - you, no, you yourself.
  45. 0
    April 17 2018 13: 02
    Haha, I agree - they were intercepted by the Syrian air defense.
    Yes, do not look for photos of downed axes and a hedgehog with them, it is said that a special team collects all the wreckage. to research smart Trump missiles.
  46. +2
    April 17 2018 13: 51
    Quote: Artemy
    Quote: sib.ataman
    Quote: Artemy
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Artemy
    What are normal then? Such?

    I do not understand, the diagnosis of MEI is contagious?

    Can you communicate coherently? What is wrong with these pictures?


    Yes, the diagnosis is on the face! He has the same mattress for all the mattresses, sprinkle ashes on his head, and the great mustachioed and striped mattress can mold lentil soup with the best bad guys. Yes, give it to you yourself! You get it as long as you get rid of normal people’s heads, and as the need for such miscarriages disappears, so repeat the path of Skripal!

    Imagine this is how you argue your point of view even here. But did they send you somewhere to "enemy" resources to defend the interests of the homeland? After all, there you’ll not be able to hold two posts with your “arguments” like: “I went to the forest”, “You are sick” and “You are American henchman”
    Do you understand now why in the world less and less people want to communicate with you?

    I go where my soul is pleased, and not where a free soup is distributed! I communicate with those who are close to me in spirit and views, and not for the sake of tolerant creativity! And I prefer to defend the interests of the motherland in the ranks, rather than fidgeting jo_poi on a soft sofa!
    And from communicating with you, those around you are directly eroding in ecstasy? Judge, you messed up the forums!
    1. 0
      April 17 2018 15: 19
      Quote: sib.ataman
      I go where my soul is pleased, and not where a free soup is distributed!

      I will not even ask you what these places are. So imagine.
      I communicate with those who are close to me in spirit and views, and not for the sake of tolerant creativity!

      With boors and embittered people all over the world? I noticed this in your comments.
      And I prefer to defend the interests of the motherland in the ranks, rather than fidgeting jo_poi on a soft sofa!

      Then why are you here and I don’t hear gun shots?
      And from communicating with you, those around you are directly eroding in ecstasy? Judge, you messed up the forums!

      Unlike you, I have many friends and acquaintances around the world. And strangely, no one sends each other in ... if they have a different point of view. But you do not understand this, like many in Russia. You have enemies all around.
      Happy to stay.
  47. +1
    April 17 2018 14: 05
    Quote: Artemy
    Quote: sib.ataman

    And how did you determine that it was a bunch of calibers, and not a broken-up Ammers UAV?

    Just as I determine that it is a Lada, not a Chevrolet, CEP. Objections that this Caliber is?


    And at the dump of broken-up cars, you also easily distinguish them? I got it! The second on the left is you? Chief Specialist in Caliber? Right, riding caliber you chase after them and collect evidence!
  48. +1
    April 17 2018 14: 10
    Quote: Artemy
    Quote: sib.ataman
    Want a replay, risk your health!

    So it was a repeat.


    It was a cheap farce!
  49. +1
    April 17 2018 14: 16
    Quote: Whispering in the night
    Quote: alta
    To shoot down modern cruise missiles using long-obsolete weapons produced in the USSR 30 years ago is the same as shooting missiles using stone throwers from the time of the Kulikovo battle brought from Ryazan.

    And when the latest stealth in Yugoslavia was shot down by an obsolete Soviet missile, what kind of battle was it, Kulikovskaya or another?

    Termopilskaya ... hde eugays defeated the practical Persians
  50. 0
    April 17 2018 14: 19
    I suspect that their missiles were opposed by Russian electronic warfare and Syrian missiles. And under the influence of electronic warfare, their missiles drowned in the sea
  51. 0
    April 17 2018 14: 25
    Quote: sib.ataman
    Quote: Artemy
    Quote: NEXUS

    Each strike by Caliber is accompanied by a video, photo and report ..

    Really?


    Well, even if they fell... then what? Ours studied then. Testing the application takes place. And even if they star that everyone has arrived....the one who does nothing is not mistaken. I think there’s no point in pointing out this photo as some kind of “indisputable” evidence. It doesn’t really prove anything in this topic.
    Here is 2 Caliber collapsed along the road (there are still photos of the same). Show me when the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported their loss, rather than reporting that "All fired missiles accurately hit the assigned targets"? That's it.
    video hit axes where?

    In the pictures, CEP. Americans declared 3 goals. From the stated goals there was no stone unturned. What other proof do you have?
    Previously, mattresses were so fond of such shows that even Hillary pissed with boiling water and was emptied with bricks the size of the ones that built the pyramids.

    Arguments ended and went name-calling, like in a kindergarten? And this is against the background of Apache and a video from a computer game? It’s funny.


    And how did you determine that it was a bunch of calibers, and not a broken-up Ammers UAV?
  52. 0
    April 17 2018 14: 26
    Quote: 72jora72
    Quote: Topotun
    And what about the fakes? It is very necessary to crawl around the airbases collecting debris. Meaning? Anyway, the Western media simply will not show them. They will announce that this is Kremlin propaganda. The military in Syria already has something to do. If you are sure that ALL 103 missiles (based on satellite images shown by the Americans) went down on those two objects, then just think that there would be half the successive impact of almost 20 tons of explosives (103 times 150-300 kg in the warhead). There should not even have been walls.

    In the 14th year in Donetsk, I saw the consequences after hitting Point U, so there was a funnel more than after getting 103 tomahawks belay

    Quote: Seraphimamur
    Today's tagline: "Americans are liars."

    Well, they will block you if you write it correctly
  53. 0
    April 17 2018 15: 54
    Trump: Russia failed to intercept any missiles in Syria

    I believe Trump is right. It is very difficult to hit a maneuvering missile. But then 103 or 110 very smart and high-precision missiles managed to destroy 3 not very large above-ground buildings and two not very large overhead warehouses of light construction. The mountain gave birth, mysh. In addition, with underground structures - what will we do?
    And the second consequence is that if a small and nimble missile or aircraft is very difficult to hit, then all missile defense systems must be converted to hit ground targets or surface ships.
    1. 0
      April 17 2018 16: 53
      They have the wrong RDX system)))
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  56. 0
    April 17 2018 17: 54
    Gentlemen, what kind of debris are you going to collect? An ax and an anti-aircraft missile (its destructive elements) meet at supersonic speed, plus 400-450 kg of explosives and unburnt fuel. What debris? Trash.
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  58. 0
    April 18 2018 01: 17
    Trumpaldino from Washington is simply burning!!!
  59. 0
    April 18 2018 08: 18
    Quote: Artemy
    Quote: sib.ataman

    And how did you determine that it was a bunch of calibers, and not a broken-up Ammers UAV?

    Just as I determine that it is a Lada, not a Chevrolet, CEP. Objections that this Caliber is?


    Well, actually, it’s not difficult to confuse, say, a VAZ 2101 with a Fiat 124. There are differences, but if the cars are broken and dented, then it’s not a fact that you will find them. That’s why they ask you leading questions to understand whether it makes sense to talk to you and whether you understand the intricacies.

    The burden of proof lies with the one making the claim. You claim that the photo you provided shows Caliber. So prove it's him. And don’t forget to explain why this is not, say, x-101.

    And in general it’s not very clear what you’re arguing about? As far as I understand, this topic is dedicated to Trump’s statement that Russia has not shot down a single missile. Do you believe that the Syrians shot down the missiles, but the Russians didn’t shoot down a single one? Or do you believe that all the missiles hit the target and not a single one was shot down at all?
  60. +1
    April 18 2018 23: 02
    Trump: Russia failed to intercept any missiles in Syria


    Well, actually, if the interception was on Trump’s Twitter, then of course everyone hit the target, but in reality, 2/3 of the American “smart” missiles developed in the late 70s were shot down, the British ones did not take off from the submarine, exactly 3 French smart missiles were launched.
    In the 5st century, only a complete optimist can call a rocket smart if it has an accuracy of 10-21 meters.
    For such an optimist, of course, all missiles cannot fail to reach their target.
  61. 0
    April 19 2018 18: 26
    Oh how, everyone hit the mark, even flew to Russia as a gift.
    https://vz.ru/politics/2018/4/19/918560.html?utm_
    referrer = https% 3A% 2F% 2Fzen.yandex.com
  62. 0
    April 20 2018 12: 21
    Take pictures of their “unshot down” “smart” missiles delivered to Russia from Syria and present them to the whole world. Let's see what Trump sings
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