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"Abstinence" of Kazakhstan in the UN Security Council. This is a partnership ...

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The Russian resolution in the UN Security Council, which refers to an act of aggression against an independent state, in addition to Russia itself, is supported by two more states - members of the Security Council. This is the People's Republic of China and Bolivia. 8 members of the Security Council spoke against the document: the USA, France, Britain, Poland, Kuwait, Sweden, the Netherlands, Côte d'Ivoire (5 of eight are members of NATO, Sweden is already thinking about joining).


The remaining members of the Security Council of the United Nations decided to abstain, that is, to say in fact that they could not decide on thoughts about whether there was an invasion of an independent state or not ...

These undecided - Ethiopia, Peru, Equatorial Guinea and, which attracted special attention, Kazakhstan. That same Kazakhstan, which is located not only in the Eurasian Economic Union, but also in the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO).

"Abstinence" of Kazakhstan in the UN Security Council. This is a partnership ...


What can mean "abstention" of the representative of Kazakhstan in the UN Security Council? It is clear that, fundamentally, the voice of RK would not have decided anything, but we can state the following: Kazakhstan’s political partners, even on the question of overt aggression against an independent state by the United States, Britain and France, decided to try to sit on two chairs. Apparently, a directive came from Astana to vote "no way" in order for the United States to notice the "Astana opportunity" for negotiations on the Donbas. Recall that during an urgent visit in connection with the frozen 22 billion dollars in the United States, President Nursultan Nazarbayev of Kazakhstan told Trump that Astana could replace Minsk "if necessary."

Recall that the representative of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation Konstantin Kosachev, commenting on the vote in the UN Security Council, said that everything, by and large, passed without surprises, but at the same time he was surprised by the position of one state. He did not say what. But there is a version that it was just about the strange position of Kazakhstan, whose leadership actually signed that it would not say “no” in principle in case of direct NATO aggression against independent states. Or they decided that if Russia didn’t respond to NATO militarily, then it is possible to test removal from the diplomatic position? Was it necessary to wait for diplomatic support from Astana after stories with the non-recognition of the Crimea? - a separate question.

It's time to translate Kazakh into Latin to please more partners overseas ... Strategic partner!
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      1. Skarpzd
        Skarpzd April 15 2018 08: 02
        +50
        Kazakhs have many reasons to trust the Russian Federation? or hope for the Russian Federation. the weak are drawn to the strong under the wing. hoping for protection in case of emergency. The Russian Federation has not yet defended anyone. even mine.
        1. baudolino
          baudolino April 15 2018 08: 12
          +68
          With such a policy, Kazakhstan risks being in the position of Dill and losing its north.
          1. Skarpzd
            Skarpzd April 15 2018 08: 17
            +6
            But are there any prerequisites?
            1. Muvka
              Muvka April 15 2018 08: 32
              +32
              Did Ukraine have any prerequisites?
              1. Skarpzd
                Skarpzd April 15 2018 08: 33
                +4
                I think yes.
                1. hrych
                  hrych April 15 2018 09: 16
                  +38
                  Elbasy is dreaming of a new Silk Road, but he passes by, and here he will grow. Unlike Ukraine, he is trying to sit not on 2, but on 3 chairs, there is also a Chinese stool. Mongolia also behaves approximately the same. Lukashenko generally sits in the same chair, but also scoops out no less. Such are the smaller brothers, but no others. Geographically, the Republic of Kazakhstan is certainly a buffer zone of the Russian Federation, there is a general air defense and there is a CSTO. And we must clearly understand that if it smells fried, that in the West, that in the SA, both Lukashenko and Elbasy will quickly be replaced by the Governors-General, and these comrades will be given rest and treatment. After the Crimean operation and the Syrian company, Russia is no longer that ...
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana April 15 2018 09: 31
                    +23
                    Recall that during an urgent visit in connection with the frozen 22 billion dollars to the US, Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev told Trump that Astana could replace Minsk “if necessary”.

                    A very significant reminder!

                    States and individuals!
                    Do not keep your money and gold in privately owned banks of the US Federal Reserve Loan Moneys. Create branches of your national banks abroad and store your finances there for the convenience of settlements abroad!

                    Remember how the USA was created! The United States was created as a global Masonic state led by the Anglo-Saxon Freemasons with their capital in Washington, when Freemasons were banned in England. The United States was created with the money of the Zionist Rothschild Banking House for domination of the whole world. And this Rothschild ideology, historically fertilized by Anglo-Saxon piracy, never changed in Washington.
                  2. StVahmistr
                    StVahmistr April 15 2018 17: 20
                    +3
                    And we must clearly understand that if it smells fried, that in the West, that in the SA, both Lukashenko and Elbasy will quickly be replaced by the Governors-General, and these comrades will be given rest and treatment. After the Crimean operation and the Syrian company, Russia is no longer that ...

                    I am tormented by some vague doubts. At the expense of the Governors-General .... His gut is thin ... sad
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                    1. hrych
                      hrych April 20 2018 21: 12
                      +1
                      No, it was Ukraine that lost Ukrainians, a mistake was fixed, or rather, a crime of Bolsheviks of Ukrainian origin, who ruled from Stalin to the death of the USSR, when the Donbass and Crimea were included in the Ukrainian SSR, although these lands were never mentally or physically in this Russian province. But Ukrainian statehood is also a mistake, the people cannot create a normal state, although no one interfered, but on the contrary, which is far from uniform and heterogeneous, i.e. it actually does not exist. This error will be corrected not only by us, but also by our western neighbors. By and large, with the closure of the valve, statehood will cease to exist, this is also understood in Brussels, by the way, which they even stutter about. No Chechnya has won any war, and Khasavyurt is just a truce and that is criminal. When the Second World War began, Ukraine and its people fell within a month, as did the Poles. Only on the territory of the RSFSR did the enemy feel the desperate resistance of the population, was stopped and defeated near Moscow and in Stalingrad, and Kursk and Duga put an end to it. After the outcome of the war, it was a foregone conclusion and it was a matter of time before Berlin fell. And how Russians are at war with Ukrainians, says Donbass, where the Russian militia piled on a regular army with aviation. And Crimea showed how our regular units and the Ukrainian are fighting, i.e. some who could not fart, not that to fight back. It’s such a difference, not everyone is given to be a warrior nation, even a relative.
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                    2. hrych
                      hrych April 21 2018 01: 02
                      +4
                      No Kiev is the mother of Russian cities, it was priests. Novgorod captured Kiev, then Novgorod was the main city ahead of Kiev. All Rurikovich are Novgorodians. Kiev was never a Ukrainian city, and still it is Russian, both in terms of population and language. And the people of Kiev themselves will hang this zapadenskaya evil spirits. Partisans - special forces thrown to the rear, but of course, the soldiers who appeared to be broken regular units adjoined them, but it was the locals who went to the police rather. And about the "heroic" local population who surrendered to the enemy, mythmaking was composed by Brezhnev and the like. Lviv’s advancement is the same myth, where are they achievements in science, where are they achievements in literature, where are the magnificent creations of architects? No damn thing. Universities were or were not there, but there was no sense from this. Kievan Rus is an invention of historians; it has never been called by this word. Svyatoslav was already about to make Pereyaslavets on the Danube. After the capital, she left for Vladimir and Moscow, but not Kiev was the starting point, but Novgorod. Kiev is an intermediate rate and no more. 100 peoples fought and they were spread in the Russian units, of which the vast majority, no one pleads with their dignity, but there is no need to steal this victory from the Russians. In addition to the heroic feat at the front, it was the Russian rear that ensured the industrial victory, it was the Russian engineers who made the best tanks, planes and small arms. We take Koshkin (T-34), Kostikov (MLRS Katyusha), Ilyushin, Polikarpov, Lavochkin, Tupolev, Antonov - aviators, Sudaev, Tokarev, Shpagin, Dragunov, Kalashnikov, Makarov - small arms. Where are Tsybulko and Gamulko, there are none. And where are they, the geniuses of Lviv super universities? Of all the great engineers, one Glushko even buried the Korolev’s achievements, after his death, the bastard cut the finished N-1 missiles. As part of the Russian people, it is normal, as a separate thing, there is no sense in military affairs, nor in the state system, nor in anything. And a living example - here he is, the current Square and rulers worthy of Valtsman, Groisman, Sakashvillo, Avakyan, Grigyan, and the wisest - Klitschko. Congratulations.
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              2. Serge Gorely
                Serge Gorely April 15 2018 09: 41
                +43
                Quote: Muvka
                Did Ukraine have any prerequisites?

                The corn farmer not only gave Crimea to Ukraine, but also virgin lands to Kazakhstan. And the Russians are spread rot in Kazakhstan ....
                1. Sergej1972
                  Sergej1972 April 16 2018 11: 06
                  +3
                  Here the claim is not to Khrushchev, but to Stalin. Why, in general, in 1936 removed Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Karakalpakia from the RSFSR, making the first two former Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republics union republics, and transferring Karakalpakia to Uzbekistan? In any case, if there was a political need for this transformation, why did you leave areas with a clearly predominant Russian population in Kazakhstan? Indeed, in the mid-20s. they removed the Orenburg province (And Orenburg was then the capital of the Kyrgyz Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, soon renamed the Kazak (Kazakh) Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic) from the autonomy and included directly in the RSFSR. Why didn’t they do the same with the Russian regions in 1936?
                  Look atlases of the USSR, published under Stalin and under Khrushchev. They can also be found in electronic form. There were no land transfers from the RSFSR to Kazakhstan. With the exception of a few village councils, on the contrary, those transferred to the composition of the RSFSR. The border between Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan was changing. And under Brezhnev, small changes in the borders between the RSFSR and Kazakhstan were carried out on a compensatory basis - they changed equal territories.
                  In Kazakhstan, it is Khrushchev who is accused of the fact that shortly before the withdrawal, he planned to transfer five regions with an area of ​​half a million square kilometers from Kazakhstan to the RSFSR, and also transfer the Mangyshlak peninsula to either Turkmenistan or Azerbaijan.
              3. Orionvit
                Orionvit April 15 2018 11: 22
                +33
                Quote: Muvka
                Did Ukraine have any prerequisites?

                And what is Ukraine? Frankly, this is a political misunderstanding. Kazakhstan from the same series of supposedly "independent states." They were taught to read, write only during the Soviet era, and already there, they gathered ambition above the roof. And they think that if Genghis Khan was recorded in Kazakhs, then everything "will be a bunch." Like the diggers of the Black Sea, a bad example. I would even say a dead end.
                1. IQ12NHJ21az
                  IQ12NHJ21az April 15 2018 20: 20
                  +2
                  Forgot Belarus and Azerbaijan.
                  1. Orionvit
                    Orionvit April 15 2018 21: 10
                    +3
                    Quote: IQ12NHJ21az
                    Forgot Belarus and Azerbaijan.

                    Why forgot, wrote in Russian
                    from the same series of supposedly "independent states"
                2. Senior manager
                  Senior manager April 16 2018 11: 18
                  +2
                  Quote: Orionvit
                  Kazakhstan from the same series of supposedly "independent states."

                  As far as my memory serves me, Kazakhstan has never had its own statehood, and now it is headed by a very ancient communist, the Gorbachev formation. He is guided by the principles of the old party nomenclature - "deflection in all directions," while not forgetting to collect preferences. This is an artificial ally, with force majeure, it will tear to all sides. Grandpa, well, what can you take from him, if there was a rod, yes, it was off. It looks like the GDP understands this and writes on plain paper, in the absence of a stamp.
                  1. Schima68
                    Schima68 April 21 2018 20: 41
                    0
                    I watched the meeting with Trump, I thought he was going to get it now, but Trump did not offer it.
            2. RUSS
              RUSS April 15 2018 08: 36
              +1
              Quote: Skarpzd
              But are there any prerequisites?

              No, and never will be, there were some kind of languid attempts in the 90s!
            3. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 April 15 2018 11: 15
              +9
              Quote: Skarpzd
              But are there any prerequisites?

              Of course. After all, Kazakhs and Russians are distinguished not only by the language barrier, but also by different racial affiliation. "Wise" Nazarbayev lays a mine on his own people, estranging him from Russia.
              1. Lelek
                Lelek April 15 2018 13: 56
                +16
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                "Wise" Nazarbayev lays a mine on his own people, estranging him from Russia.

                hi
                Money and gold outweighed history and contracts. The Nazarbay clan began this policy before the collapse of the USSR (when it was part of the KPKaz secretariat). Gradually crushed all branches of power in the republic, destroyed the opposition, acquired the title of "father of the nation" and led artificially created Kazakhstan to what we have today in its underbelly. They fussed, rushed about with Nazarbay, as with a written sack, and he thanked "with oriental generosity." But, it is thought that these are only buds, flowers and berries in front. yes
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym April 15 2018 14: 25
                  +4
                  Lelek, and who fussed with Nazarbay and with what he thanked? Can you name what kind of gingerbread did Russia offer to KZ? Reason, if not laziness. hi
                  1. Orionvit
                    Orionvit April 15 2018 15: 15
                    +6
                    Quote: Kasym
                    Can you name what kind of gingerbread did Russia offer to KZ?

                    And without gingerbread, just like that, friendship, weak?
                    1. romb
                      romb April 15 2018 15: 36
                      +6
                      And to begin environmental measures to restore the ruined by various military training grounds, almost twenty percent of the territory of Kazakhstan is weak? To begin to pay compensation to the injured two million citizens due to the disastrous consequences of the Semipalatinsk landfill - is it weak? But to solve the problems of shallowing of the Aral Sea and desertification of soils - weakly?
                      1. Dart
                        Dart April 15 2018 16: 03
                        +30
                        return America to the Indians and compensate for their genocide, to begin with ... weak?
                      2. StVahmistr
                        StVahmistr April 15 2018 17: 27
                        +8
                        And to solve problems ....

                        This is not your problem. Watch what is happening under your own nose. fool And what are you doing there in Syria? Were you called there? Well get out from here! am
                      3. Vkd dvk
                        Vkd dvk April 15 2018 19: 22
                        +11
                        Quote: romb
                        And to begin environmental measures to restore the ruined by various military training grounds, almost twenty percent of the territory of Kazakhstan is weak? To begin to pay compensation to the injured two million citizens due to the disastrous consequences of the Semipalatinsk landfill - is it weak? But to solve the problems of shallowing of the Aral Sea and desertification of soils - weakly?

                        And to pay the Indians of North America for the destruction, almost universal, weak? To work on them for the blankets infected with the plague is weak?
                        Conscientious are ours, do not shut up and get out of here? would be right. For Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia you all need to outweigh.
                      4. SVD
                        SVD April 15 2018 20: 20
                        +10
                        And your part of the debt of the USSR to pay weak?
                      5. kyznets
                        kyznets April 16 2018 04: 35
                        +8
                        About the shallowing of the Aral Sea was written in the Encyclopedia of Brockhaus and Efron at the end of the XIX century. Is this what the Russians already then Aral Sea shallowed? And about compensation, so we were all in one state - the USSR. And ONE Russia paid the debts for this state. Compensation for Kazakhstan is the land that it has left - sovereign territory. But somehow strange, the land is Kazakhstan, and Russia must pay for the environment. Some kind of crap. So we paid all your compensation by paying the debts of the USSR. And in terms of garlic, we don’t need a centimeter of Kazakhstani soil and we don’t need accession. God forbid again such "brothers forever"!
                      6. Victorio
                        Victorio April 16 2018 09: 46
                        +1
                        Quote: romb
                        And to begin environmental measures to restore the ruined by various military training grounds, almost twenty percent of the territory of Kazakhstan is weak? To begin to pay compensation to the injured two million citizens due to the disastrous consequences of the Semipalatinsk landfill - is it weak? But to solve the problems of shallowing of the Aral Sea and desertification of soils - weakly?

                        ===
                        and how much percent of the territory has Kazakhstan grown thanks to Mother Russia?
                      7. 76SSSR
                        76SSSR April 16 2018 11: 29
                        0
                        And where does Russia? Such problems throughout the former Union, and Russia is now puffed up? Let us now steal the Chernobyl to pay different compensation begin. They wanted independence - if you please, keep yourself, and not beg for Ukraine.
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                    2. Kasym
                      Kasym April 15 2018 16: 15
                      +1
                      So you write about "fussed and rushed"? I ask for "thanked with oriental generosity." And as far as I know, between our countries that same friendship exists. hi
                      1. StVahmistr
                        StVahmistr April 15 2018 17: 29
                        +2
                        And as far as I know, between our countries that same friendship exists.

                        This is evident from the behavior of your albas ... lol
                      2. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 April 15 2018 19: 02
                        +3
                        Quote: Kasym
                        And as far as I know, between our countries that same friendship exists.

                        Kysym is friendship, friendship, but Nazarbayev pursues the wrong national policy. With 20% of the Russian-speaking population, translating written language into Latin is clearly not a friendly gesture. And the program of settling the northern regions with Kazakhs worked the same way, and it works. request
                  2. StVahmistr
                    StVahmistr April 15 2018 17: 24
                    +2
                    Lelek, and who fussed with Nazarbay and with what he thanked? Can you name what kind of gingerbread did Russia offer to KZ? Reason, if not laziness.

                    What are the arguments? Learn the story. laughing
                  3. Lelek
                    Lelek April 15 2018 19: 32
                    +11
                    Quote: Kasym
                    Kasym

                    hi Kasym.
                    Russia (USSR) made its steppe land a union republic and named it KazSSR, invested unlimited money, built cities, enterprises, cultural institutions, built a desalination plant (Shevchenko), carried out huge irrigation works, carried out a lot of geological exploration, which provided raw materials independence of the republic, built the world's largest spaceport, which today brings to the treasury of the republic are not frail means and much more. Continue?
                    And after separation from Russia, what did we get in Kazakhstan? The exile of the Russians, the violation of our common history, neutrality at the UN, the replacement of the Cyrillic alphabet with the Latin alphabet (he was a fitter of Vanya, but in the spirit of Parisians, he was awarded the title of electrical engineer Jean ...). I won’t be surprised if tomorrow Khan Nazarbay answers the question of the Western correspondent: “What about your situation with Russia?”, He will answer: “What is this?” yes
                    1. Kasym
                      Kasym April 15 2018 21: 01
                      +6
                      This, Lelek, we created together and the people were called SOVIET. As well as raised the west of the country after the Second World War. Well, that Leningrad, for example, was after the blockade under the patronage of Alma-Ata. Or only the Russian Federation lifted the country from ruins?
                      You better tell me in modern history. Now you can clearly see who was the "donor" of the Union. This is even seen from the statistics of the USSR. Only the last couple of years the Union of KazSSR was on the bandwagon - because They wanted to take on the industry of the republic and were injected into the republic.
                      You obviously didn’t live here and did not stay long. So the Assembly of the Peoples of Kazakhstan will allow you to drive someone from here - you obviously do not know the realities. Go to the ANC website and read what kind of structure. Soon her Congress.
                      The NAS has been sitting in the president’s chair all this time, which promises integration and strengthening of the EAEU. In general, half of the population is “non-indigenous” (130 diasporas) and how to develop the country if we infringe on someone ?! And for some reason, most of the Slavs remained in the KZ - or didn’t you know ?!
                      Nothing goes to the treasury of the country for Baikonur and the Kazakhstanis (not only the Kazakhs, I want to note) do not see anything from this. By the way, we will soon abandon the lease (115 million goes for the maintenance of the cosmodrome). Two sites near Zenit from the beginning of the year were transferred to the government for the construction of Baiterek ($ 245 million from the KZ treasury) for the Soyuz-5 rocket launcher (Sunkar) - from 25g. they plan to launch manned missiles from it. Can you name joint programs funded by both parties? That Silk Road and the autobahn were almost built in the KZ - Russia lags behind in the message of Feder. The GDP meeting spoke about this. To tell you that in our new 4 pipelines of its oil and gas ... no !!! We recently built and proposed a new one for you - now you can start pumping gas to China !!! Or do you think Moscow gave us money for this? Maybe for the new 2,7 thousand km. Have you given us? No, dear, we do not hang on your neck. And we have our own good gold reserves.
                      By the way, I myself am dissatisfied with the actions of our diplomats at the UN on this resolution. And because not out of power, I don’t know the motives for these actions hi .
                      1. ArhipenkoAndrey
                        ArhipenkoAndrey April 16 2018 10: 13
                        +5
                        It would be nice if you were completely independent and 15 years old, then you would have looked, but you were lying about Baikonur when you built the East, your guarantor sent protests, I don’t want to refuse freebies, and I personally drove the Russians out of the country, drove them out of the country apartments in Ustkoman, engineers were expelled from factories and installed illiterate national footage, IT WAS. And about joint projects you pushed it well, but again it’s not a fit, investment shares in them are far from equal, Kazakhstan is usually a nominal investor, territorial and funds are mainly Russian, well, etc.
                      2. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk April 16 2018 12: 35
                        +7
                        Quote: Kasym
                        This, Lelek, we created together and the people were called SOVIET. As well as raised the west of the country after the Second World War. Well, that Leningrad, for example, was after the blockade under the patronage of Alma-Ata. Or only the Russian Federation lifted the country from ruins?

                        Kasym, I'm actually against being measured by someone thicker. It will not lead to anything good. But you know, one must face the truth, whatever it may be.
                        How much uch. institutions were in Kaz. at the time of the creation of the USSR? How many and what kind of factories, factories and other industrial enterprises? I do not argue that the USSR needed sheep’s skins and wool, but this is not comparable with what Russia gave. For example, you know about the program for the accelerated development of the backward and industrial and cultural levels of the outskirts of the USSR during the years of the Sov. Authorities? What is this talking about? This suggests that Russia was torn from itself in order to develop these backward suburbs, which also belonged to the Kaz.SSR. For example, do you know that, to the detriment of more prepared Russian, Belorussian and Ukrainian applicants, young people from these suburbs were accepted outside the competition to universities? For what? In order to raise a very low educational level and Kaz. also. So, together, then together, but the contribution is different. And this is no offense to you. It’s just a statement of fact.
                        When the earthquake in Spitak and the surrounding area, Russia instantly sent detachments of builders there. Even earlier, the same thing happened in Tashkent. And when the accident happened at Chaes, something I did not meet there from Kaz., Wed. Asia, Caucasus. Nobody !!! Siberians were! From Kaz. - nobody! The distance is almost the same.
                        What was the name of Alma-Ata before? Did the Kazakhs build their capital?
                        I repeat, I’m an opponent who, how much and why. But you, have a conscience, do not stick to the fact that you, the Kazakhs, would never have done anything without Russia.
                      3. Vkd dvk
                        Vkd dvk April 21 2018 21: 33
                        +1
                        Quote: Kasym
                        Or do you think Moscow gave us money for this? Maybe for the new 2,7 thousand km. Have you given us?


                        Weird question. And more than a strange answer. Pride for the country and splashes. Build the road yourself, on your own. It's weird. Not familiar. But, for the future, ourselves, ourselves, all ourselves. If something is needed, let's talk. We are talking. Baikonur, and all that. We are not proud of our size, we go and talk. Where the money goes from rent, sort it out yourself, without us. Are we supposed to control this too? You will be in violation of the CSTO, CIS treaties behind your back with enemies ..... You will regret it. DO NOT help in the UN- do not ask from us. Equality.
                    2. Kolt27
                      Kolt27 April 16 2018 12: 30
                      +2
                      Dear you write complete nonsense. you were there? Have you seen how they infringe and expel Russians there? I have most of my relatives living in Karaganda and I sometimes go there. So, the road between the Kazakhs and the Russians is all normal, no one infringes or expels anyone. I’ll tell you even more, my aunt works as a chief accountant and Kazakhs are subordinate to them and they don’t hold a grudge against this, my cousin works as a boss in a large company and my godmother is a second person in a well-known in Kazakhstan, and maybe not only in him surgical Center for Neurology. but you Lelek without thinking your little thought kindle ethnic conflict.
                      1. Kasym
                        Kasym April 16 2018 15: 58
                        +3
                        Colt27, almost six years on the site and ... all the same. Already there is no desire to comment and respond to articles about KZ. The madhouse is complete - people were not here, but they write this ... it’s better to save my nerves than to answer all of these. hi
            4. svp67
              svp67 April 15 2018 13: 23
              +2
              Quote: Skarpzd
              But are there any prerequisites?

              More than...
              1. Kasym
                Kasym April 15 2018 14: 26
                +1
                Maybe you, Sergey, will name these premises. hi
            5. Vkd dvk
              Vkd dvk April 15 2018 18: 33
              0
              Quote: Skarpzd
              But are there any prerequisites?

              There is. Moreover, together with the capital.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 April 15 2018 19: 04
                0
                Quote: Vkd dvk
                There is. Moreover, together with the capital

                By the way, yes. The transfer of the capital was initiated precisely from the point of view of the national program for the resettlement of southern Kazakhs to the north of Kazakhstan.
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym April 15 2018 22: 13
                  +3
                  Igor, then draw your own conclusions from the next. facts. Without my "imposition."
                  1. The Russian language is taught with literature in full even in a remote Kazakh village. By the way, about 50% of Russian schools (with 30% of the Slavic population), as well as about 100 students study in Uyghur, Uzbek, Tajik and Ukrainian.
                  2. Assembly of the Peoples of Kazakhstan. Soon her congress. All 130 diasporas of the KZ are collected there. I wonder how, in the presence of such a number of nationalities, spread rot one. Go to the site and look at her responsibilities and rights. Thanks to her, the Russian Community of KZ has one lifetime seat in parliament - only she decides who to delegate.
                  I'm already tired of writing about the Latin alphabet - you can find in my comments and understand the aspects of this issue. And also from the Russian Kazakhstanis on the site to learn about being-living with us. It is true that in state. Kazakhs structures - you need to know both state. language. Therefore, a few years ago, the National Academy of Sciences asked at the Congress of the ANC of the Diaspora to nominate candidates for the civil service. hi
                2. Vkd dvk
                  Vkd dvk April 16 2018 19: 43
                  0
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Quote: Vkd dvk
                  There is. Moreover, together with the capital

                  By the way, yes. The transfer of the capital was initiated precisely from the point of view of the national program for the resettlement of southern Kazakhs to the north of Kazakhstan.

                  Not at all. The transfer of the capital far to the north, into the desert is the desire to consolidate these territories. Just in case. Relocate to the "virgin land" of their Kazakhs could be another way.
                  If that were the goal. And without billions of dollars in capital transfer costs.
          2. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov April 15 2018 08: 32
            +6
            Quote: baudolino
            With such a policy, Kazakhstan risks being in the position of Dill and losing its north.

            Kazakhs do not need the north .. There everything is overgrown with feather grass and there are no minerals! You can safely pick it up, they won’t even notice hehe
            1. jovanni
              jovanni April 15 2018 09: 12
              +6
              Quote: MIKHAN
              Quote: baudolino
              With such a policy, Kazakhstan risks being in the position of Dill and losing its north.

              Kazakhs do not need the north .. There everything is overgrown with feather grass and there are no minerals! You can safely pick it up, they won’t even notice hehe

              Nothing, but the Americans will come in handy. So they will take ...
              1. Setrac
                Setrac April 15 2018 14: 14
                0
                Quote: Jovanni
                Nothing, but the Americans will come in handy. So they will take ...

                How is Crimea?
                1. Lelek
                  Lelek April 16 2018 00: 31
                  +3
                  Quote: Setrac
                  How is Crimea?

                  hi
                  Speaking of Crimea. Lives, prettier, invested in spite of the Western "pretenders".

                  And the beautiful bridge on the way, so it will be even better. And this brings the Kiev earhooks and their agitators to the grinding of teeth. And for us - joy.
            2. Orionvit
              Orionvit April 15 2018 11: 27
              +1
              Quote: MIKHAN
              they won't even notice hehe

              And where will the sheep graze?
              1. Vitaly Anisimov
                Vitaly Anisimov April 15 2018 12: 16
                +11
                Quote: Orionvit
                Quote: MIKHAN
                they won't even notice hehe

                And where will the sheep graze?

                They have not grazed sheep for a long time ... There they explored Russian gas and uranium oil and built everything .. That's what they are sitting on! Ponte pound hehe heh .. EVERYTHING is there heh hehe
                Astana was built, closer to Russia, just in case .. laughing lol
                1. Orionvit
                  Orionvit April 15 2018 12: 41
                  +3
                  Quote: MIKHAN
                  Astana was built, closer to Russia

                  So I am about the same. But no one canceled the rams.
                  1. Vitaly Anisimov
                    Vitaly Anisimov April 15 2018 13: 16
                    +8
                    Quote: Orionvit
                    Quote: MIKHAN
                    Astana was built, closer to Russia

                    So I am about the same. But no one canceled the rams.

                    They do not breed sheep already .. Not Baye is this thing hehe!
                    The whole vast territory of Kazakhstan is almost abandoned .. Baikonur alone operates and then the constant arrivals go and money requires hehe
                    There, China is actively hilling them .. And Israel, too! I won’t be surprised if Kazakhs accept Judaism and synagogues do it .. hehe
                    He blurted out and laughed to tears ..))) But everything in this world is possible wassat crying
                    1. Orionvit
                      Orionvit April 15 2018 15: 19
                      +2
                      Quote: MIKHAN
                      I won’t be surprised if Kazakhs accept Judaism and synagogue

                      Here and the Chinese are hilling. And for the people who realized their national identity quite recently (not to confuse national roots with the ancestral that they are so proud of), from the West, you can hang any noodles.
                    2. Alber
                      Alber April 17 2018 06: 55
                      0
                      Quote: MIKHAN
                      China is actively hilling them .. And Israel, too! I won’t be surprised if the Kazakhs accept Judaism and synagogue rebellion ..x

                      Following the example of the Jewish Khazaria ...?
                2. Andrey KZ
                  Andrey KZ April 15 2018 20: 08
                  +2
                  Meehan You are already sick of “rams” and border guards. Who wrote this news is also "well done." It is completely impossible to give a statement of Kazakhstan?
                  "Kazakhstan calls on the parties to comply with the UN Charter and international law. We are concerned about the lack of unity among members of the UN Security Council on the situation with the chemical attack in the Duma. Kazakhstan condemns the use of chemical weapons and considers it necessary to conduct an investigation," the statement said.
                  1. Kasym
                    Kasym April 15 2018 21: 19
                    +3
                    Hi Andrey! It’s time to already ignore Mikhan with his comments. hi
            3. Dugumbumbu
              Dugumbumbu April 15 2018 16: 02
              +3
              Guys, let's live together amicableooooooooo .... Take care of what you have ....
            4. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk April 17 2018 08: 44
              0
              Quote: MIKHAN
              Quote: baudolino
              With such a policy, Kazakhstan risks being in the position of Dill and losing its north.

              Kazakhs do not need the north .. There everything is overgrown with feather grass and there are no minerals! You can safely pick it up, they won’t even notice hehe

              Just now there is an intensive settlement of sowing. Kaz What is it for?
          3. albert
            albert April 15 2018 16: 34
            +1
            Quote: baudolino
            With such a policy, Kazakhstan risks being in the position of Dill and losing its north.

            Well, if only the north. There, the Chinese can pull themselves up.
          4. StVahmistr
            StVahmistr April 15 2018 17: 16
            +1
            With such a policy, Kazakhstan risks being in the position of Dill and losing its north.

            He had to be taken away a long time ago. At one time, the Cossacks there hinted that if Russia supported, we would separate in 5 minutes ..... Alas, the drunk sass .... l.
          5. Karabin
            Karabin April 15 2018 19: 32
            +4
            Quote: baudolino
            Kazakhstan risks being in the position of Ukropia and losing its north.

            Looking at how Putin and Co. treated the Russian Spring and New Russia in the north, they will think very hard
          6. Alber
            Alber April 16 2018 20: 59
            +1
            Quote: baudolino
            With such a policy, Kazakhstan risks being in the position of Dill and losing its north.


            Kazakhs are a good people, but there is no need to have illusions.
            Latin entered for a reason. The Russians need to slowly leave (return to Russia), because Nazar’s buy is not eternal ...
        2. konstantin68
          konstantin68 April 15 2018 08: 38
          +25
          Of course have! And the first reason is the border with the Russian Federation. The second is all economic ties with / through the Russian Federation. Only the PRC is an alternative, but it is not so simple with logistics (again, the Russian Federation), they are foolish to even rely on "strong" amers for obvious reasons.
          I want to add that currently the mood in Kazakhstan is swinging very strongly according to the "Ukrainian" scenario. The Russians are already leaving, especially from the provinces. Nothing new, the same nationalism, bordering on Nazism and mantras about "come in large numbers" and "our exclusiveness." It remains to wish the Kazakh people wisdom and the right choice.
          1. igorka357
            igorka357 April 15 2018 10: 24
            +15
            Dear, I come from Kazakhstan, and the Russians began to leave from the year 85, I lived in the village of Sayak .. not far from Balkhash, so don’t have to “leave already” all the mortals left for a long time!
            1. Vitaly Anisimov
              Vitaly Anisimov April 15 2018 10: 59
              +11
              Quote: igorka357
              Dear, I come from Kazakhstan, and the Russians began to leave from the year 85, I lived in the village of Sayak .. not far from Balkhash, so don’t have to “leave already” all the mortals left for a long time!

              Well, everything is as usual, the Russians have done their job (factories have created factories, the infrastructure has been created), you can squeeze it until everyone plunders it and brings it to complete collapse ..
              Then they will again beg to come back .. No, the "brothers" have not yet settled with you ..! soldier
              Are you right Igor, who managed to escape on time .. And the rest are "missing" .. hi
            2. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk April 17 2018 09: 02
              +1
              Quote: igorka357
              Dear, I come from Kazakhstan, and the Russians began to leave from the year 85, I lived in the village of Sayak .. not far from Balkhash, so don’t have to “leave already” all the mortals left for a long time!

              Yes, Igor, your horizons are limited to Sayak and its environs. Alas. For your information, Sev. Kaz still quite densely populated by the Slavs. Not like in Owls. time but still. I have a Skype connection with my relatives there. It is still calm, but signs of instability in interethnic relations begin to appear due to the Kazakhs who arrived from the southern regions.
        3. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir April 15 2018 09: 10
          +9
          Quote: Skarpzd
          Kazakhs have many reasons to trust the Russian Federation?

          name at least one by which Kazakhs cannot trust the Russian Federation
          1. Skarpzd
            Skarpzd April 15 2018 09: 14
            +10
            The Russian Federation is not able to protect its property, its citizens, its allies. enough?
            1. Scoun
              Scoun April 15 2018 09: 31
              +38
              Quote: Skarpzd
              The Russian Federation is not able to protect its property, its citizens, its allies. enough?

              Muddy you type.
              Throwing slogans.
              Russia only did not save Serbia ..... further everywhere it was consistent, Ossetia, Crimea, LPR and DPR, Syria.
              And enough little hands to wring because of a missile strike .... but nothing that the US base was there before the blows .... something didn’t stop you from whining even then.
              But the Kazakhs showed themselves very poorly for one reason - they are participants in the Astana format of negotiations, that is, a platform for the peace process, all of a sudden it seems that it is not against the start of the war. Mankurts of the United States.
              The Kirghiz are several orders of magnitude stronger than the Faberge, even if they had a US base, they could not bend at the time.
              1. Skarpzd
                Skarpzd April 15 2018 09: 44
                +15
                turbid? well, unclouded. heed. in Serbia there are just no questions. The Russian Federation itself was staggering to help. according to the LPR and the DPR sequence in what? is everything okay in Transnistria? we squeezed out the property as a piglet in a child - actions ?. our citizens are not only anywhere, but what is seized near us - actions? Olympic disgrace ... no words. here and answer. not for me. I do not need. You yourself, clear answer.
                1. Scoun
                  Scoun April 15 2018 09: 53
                  +17
                  Quote: Skarpzd
                  Dip property has been squeezed out

                  Our otvetka dachas and other buildings were closed.
                  Quote: Skarpzd
                  olympic disgrace

                  The disgrace of the official’s statements from sports and the disgrace of Europeans and North Americans that they had no trial, in violation of all the rules and regulations, suspended the athletes, although the court proved the opposite and shame THEM the court which fell under Mok.
                  Do you think Russia should be likened to rotten Anglo-Saxons?
                  1. Skarpzd
                    Skarpzd April 15 2018 10: 03
                    +11
                    1 answer parameters are comparable ????
                    2 I do not care about the rotten, rotten and generally any freshness of the Anglo-Saxons and others like them. just curious how MY COUNTRY DEFENSE their athletes. which of the bureaucrats answered for failure in work
                    1. Victor N
                      Victor N April 15 2018 13: 12
                      +3
                      Yes, do not care about sports show business! Let them flounder.
                2. kapitan92
                  kapitan92 April 15 2018 12: 16
                  +10
                  Quote: Skarpzd
                  we squeezed out the property as a piglet in a child - actions ?.

                  To talk so emotionally on the topic of deep. property, you need to know the number of representative offices of Consulates in the United States. Before the “push”, the Russian Federation had 5 representative offices in the USA, they are 4. The Americans led everything to a common “denominator”, for this reason there was no similar answer, but Russia led to a “common denominator” in the number of employees working in Russia. hi
              2. lis-ik
                lis-ik April 15 2018 11: 57
                +1
                Quote: Scoun
                Quote: Skarpzd
                The Russian Federation is not able to protect its property, its citizens, its allies. enough?

                Muddy you type.
                Throwing slogans.
                Russia only did not save Serbia ..... further everywhere it was consistent, Ossetia, Crimea, LPR and DPR, Syria.
                And enough little hands to wring because of a missile strike .... but nothing that the US base was there before the blows .... something didn’t stop you from whining even then.
                But the Kazakhs showed themselves very poorly for one reason - they are participants in the Astana format of negotiations, that is, a platform for the peace process, all of a sudden it seems that it is not against the start of the war. Mankurts of the United States.
                The Kirghiz are several orders of magnitude stronger than the Faberge, even if they had a US base, they could not bend at the time.

                Likely I will do it too, I will watch the zombie man and believe all the noodles that they hang them and I will be complacent, because we are strong and noble, the Yankees are disgraced all over the world.
            2. Vkd dvk
              Vkd dvk April 15 2018 19: 41
              +2
              Quote: Skarpzd
              The Russian Federation is not able to protect its property, its citizens, its allies. enough?


              From whom to protect you? And yourself?
        4. gorenina91
          gorenina91 April 15 2018 09: 16
          +24
          - How many times the throne really "wandered under Nazarbayev ..." Russia always saved him ... "It was Russia that did not allow to overthrow Nazarbayev ... more than once ..." And here she is ... black ... ingratitude ... -But this is only the beginning ... -and in the future Kazakhstan will support and take the side of any enemy of Russia ... -And the side of the USA ... -so first of all ... -Kazakhs like such a leader .. .
        5. icant007
          icant007 April 15 2018 09: 20
          +1
          But what about a close neighbor better than a distant relative?
        6. vladfill
          vladfill April 15 2018 09: 21
          +12
          What kind of trust are you talking about, this tribe learned to recover only under the Soviets,
          not to mention writing, culture, education, medicine. Which and from whom
          Does Kazakhstan need protection?
        7. Rostislav
          Rostislav April 15 2018 10: 07
          +17
          Did the Americans protect many? The whole world needed protection from them.
          Started with the Indians, continued with Mexico, etc. Ask at your leisure how many wars and wars they have organized.
          America is a strong one who argues. Only uses force not to protect the weak, but to rob him. That lives.
        8. iouris
          iouris April 15 2018 11: 11
          +4
          Quote: Skarpzd
          The Russian Federation has not yet defended anyone. even mine.

          You know better. Thank you for your criticism. If so, can Kazakhstan turn for protection?
          1. Vkd dvk
            Vkd dvk April 17 2018 10: 36
            +1
            Quote: iouris
            Quote: Skarpzd
            The Russian Federation has not yet defended anyone. even mine.

            You know better. Thank you for your criticism. If so, can Kazakhstan turn for protection?

            They protect. At the UN, in Syria, in Tajikistan ..... Faithful CSTO allies.
        9. Setrac
          Setrac April 15 2018 14: 11
          +7
          Quote: Skarpzd
          Kazakhs have many reasons to trust the Russian Federation?

          Well, as if the Russians protected them from destruction, created statehood for the Kazakhs, during their stay in the Russian state the number of Kazakhs increased by a hundred times, there is something to trust!
          Quote: Skarpzd
          the weak are drawn to the strong under the wing. hoping for protection in case of emergency.

          Who is “strong” here?
          Quote: Skarpzd
          The Russian Federation has not yet defended anyone. even mine.

          She defended Crimea - aren't they theirs? And the whole world is wiped.
        10. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek April 15 2018 16: 04
          +5
          Quote: Skarpzd
          Kazakhs have many reasons to trust the Russian Federation? or hope for the Russian Federation. the weak are drawn to the strong under the wing. hoping for protection in case of emergency. The Russian Federation has not yet defended anyone. even mine.

          you know the story so badly ... Kazakhstan exists thanks to Russia !!! wink yes wassat wassat wassat
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk April 17 2018 09: 13
            0
            Quote: Nikolai the Greek
            you know the story so badly ... Kazakhstan exists thanks to Russia !!!

            But the Kazakhs know about this ?! I believe that this thought has never even struck a single Kazakh in the brain.
        11. edigs
          edigs April 15 2018 16: 40
          +1
          This is called venality! Political prostitution and zero independence. Balts creep and these with them. slaves what to take from them, but you do not need to take indulgences from all to the maximum of the "old memory" for slaves should not be!
        12. Old shoe
          Old shoe April 15 2018 16: 45
          0
          The Russian Federation has not yet defended anyone. even mine.
          And in Syria, she (Russia) is wondering what now, in your opinion, is doing ?!
          But maybe such “friends” like Kazakhstan are not worth protecting? Nazarbayev is spinning like a frying pan. Dvurushnikov not respected anywhere.
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk April 17 2018 09: 20
            0
            Quote: Old Shoe
            And in Syria, she (Russia) is wondering what now, in your opinion, is doing ?!

            I’ll tell you the secret of open door - Russia in Syria so that a gas pipeline does not pass through its territory to Europe. This is the first. And the second, in order to put the entire southern group of NATO forces in a vulnerable position, Russia built in Syria the bases of the air forces and the navy. Everything else is incidental and secondary. So to speak - for the "excuse"
        13. Vbato
          Vbato April 15 2018 17: 25
          +4
          Yes, yes, you need to reach for the strongest (for the USA), it will always help, as Libya, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Chad have already helped, damn it - you’ll break the language to list. But the main thing is that the US will soon HELP France, Poland, the Baltic states, damn it - you’ll break the list of languages. :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Do Kazakhs need such help? No? What is running up?
        14. ellada
          ellada April 15 2018 18: 19
          +4
          Throughout its history of existence, Russia has protected, protects and will protect !!
        15. Slovak
          Slovak April 15 2018 21: 18
          +2
          After all, it was the Kazakhs who came to the steppe and built cities, factories, universities, roads, and not Russia.
        16. anykin
          anykin April 16 2018 10: 34
          0
          Quote: Skarpzd
          the weak are drawn to the strong under the wing. hoping for protection

          Under the protection of the USA? From whom?) From ISIS?)) Late in the day you decided to invest in MMM)))
        17. Kostya Minkin
          Kostya Minkin April 16 2018 12: 02
          0
          But play with demons, you will see what happens. It wakes up like with Dill. All the republics that are around Russia will be set against us, we must wake up and throw Nazorbay and put their own!
        18. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 16 2018 21: 08
          0
          Does Russia have any reason to trust Kazakhstan?
        19. Vkd dvk
          Vkd dvk April 21 2018 21: 22
          +1
          Quote: Skarpzd
          Kazakhs have many reasons to trust the Russian Federation? or hope for the Russian Federation. the weak are drawn to the strong under the wing. hoping for protection in case of emergency. The Russian Federation has not yet defended anyone. even mine.

          And the Kazakhs no longer have anyone to believe in, Allah is in heaven, but Russia is on Earth. Try Wahhabism, which skated in Tajikistan.
      2. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk April 15 2018 08: 25
        +26
        Quote: MIKHAN
        I have always distrusted the Kazakhs, muddy people .. There Nazarbayev also has an adviser "reliable" Tony Blair hehe

        There is nothing muddy in the Kazakhs. You just need to know the mentality of the people. Unlike the Russians, they, like all Turkic and Caucasian peoples, have no concept of truth, justice. They have only a concept of power and unconditional submission to it. The Russian president and government in the situation with Syria DEMONSTRATELY showed their weakness. The weak have no allies. They only have patrons.
        1. konstantin68
          konstantin68 April 15 2018 08: 39
          +10
          Sorry, but this is nonsense!
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk April 15 2018 09: 14
            +5
            Quote: konstantin68
            Sorry, but this is nonsense!

            Argument.
            1. mikh-korsakov
              mikh-korsakov April 15 2018 09: 37
              +21
              Krasnoyarsk Remember how Balda in Pushkin's fairy tale entrusted the contest with the priest to his "little brother". The smaller brother did an excellent job of 70: 100 in firing against missiles - a mark of "very good." We will also train to shoot at "excellent". The Russian Federation in two years turned the Syrian army from rabble into a combat-ready army. In addition, Putin’s friend and partner were told exactly where to shoot, and the partner complied, the damage was symbolic .. This was our help, believe me more valuable than indulging couch strategists. In short, they gave not a fish, but a fishing rod.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 April 15 2018 10: 07
                +7
                Quote: mikh-korsakov
                In addition, a friend and partner of Putin was strictly indicated where to shoot, and the partner complied, the damage is symbolic ..

                This is similar to what one says to the other:
                - Come on, I won’t beat you, but I’ll just put the slam! There will be no damage! Only you do not dissolve your hands in response then. (Why not negotiate?)
                Only the people (countries, and most importantly allies!) Would regard this as a humiliation. Kazakhstan can be understood: - If Russia does not protect a military ally in Syria, then maybe it will not protect us as well?
                1. mikh-korsakov
                  mikh-korsakov April 15 2018 10: 40
                  +4
                  It was a friend and ally of Russia, trained and equipped with Russia, who managed to divorce Putin's friend and partner in 150 million dollars in two hours. And they are grateful to us for the fact that they have zero casualties. This is the real fraternal help, and the fact that our Ukrainian divorced relatives think about it, I personally do not care. I think that, God forbid, we have to butt with them, Novorossia will work on the earth, and we will ensure everything from the air, from the air, from space, so that it is easy for them to fight.
                  1. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk April 15 2018 11: 19
                    +5
                    Quote: mikh-korsakov
                    and the fact that our Ukrainian divorced relatives think about it, I personally do not care.

                    With these words, you emphasized your narrow-mindedness - you cut all Ukrainians under one comb. This is the first. And the second - I'm Russian, which is what my nickname says. And I did not attach a flag near my nickname. And last. We are not talking about what Russia did or did not do for Syria. We are talking about what a blow has been inflicted on the image of Russia and what will be the consequences in this connection. Turn on the brain, if you have one.
                    1. mikh-korsakov
                      mikh-korsakov April 15 2018 12: 40
                      +4
                      Nick can be put any - even an American. You will not please the Ukrainian public. I can imagine how much whining would rise if we were forced to act last night. Like, what we forgot in this Syria, Putin does not mind his military !!! And oh-and-oh. And on the image of Russia from Ukraine. I repeat I don’t give a damn.
                      1. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk April 15 2018 12: 59
                        0
                        Quote: mikh-korsakov
                        Nick can be put any - even an American. You will not please the Ukrainian public. I can imagine how much whining would rise if we were forced to act last night. Like, what we forgot in this Syria, Putin does not mind his military !!! And oh-and-oh. And on the image of Russia from Ukraine. I repeat I don’t give a damn.

                        You are again for yours - what does Ukraine have to do with it? You are discussing with me or with Ukraine. In short, to talk with you is not to respect yourself. Stay in peace.
                    2. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek April 15 2018 16: 15
                      +4
                      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                      We are talking about what a blow has been inflicted on the image of Russia and what will be the consequences in this connection.

                      and what blow was inflicted on the image ??? recourse recourse Well, you again whine some, as after an attack on the Shayrat in April 17 !!! Then, too, they were hysterical that Russia has no image now !!! what what laughing laughing Well, once again, the Americans smashed their image, which, instead of a "massive retaliation strike," received 70 of their missiles shot down !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                      1. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk April 15 2018 17: 40
                        +1
                        Quote: Nikolai Grek
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        We are talking about what a blow has been inflicted on the image of Russia and what will be the consequences in this connection.

                        and what blow was inflicted on the image ??? recourse recourse Well, you again whine some, as after an attack on the Shayrat in April 17 !!! Then, too, they were hysterical that Russia has no image now !!! what what laughing laughing Well, once again, the Americans smashed their image, which, instead of a "massive retaliation strike," received 70 of their missiles shot down !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing

                        No, after hitting the Shayrat, they “whined” not like that. They simply wondered - why aren’t we protecting the ally? Now the situation is different. If it weren’t for the loud statement of the Russian Defense Ministry - “We will knock down rockets and destroy the carriers,” the question would remain the same - “why aren’t we protecting the ally?” But after such a statement by the Moscow Region and non-fulfillment of what was promised, the conclusions suggest themselves. You, denying the obvious, are deceiving yourself, and you yourself are afraid to admit it. So, boldly suspend another half dozen emoticons, for your own reassurance.
              2. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk April 15 2018 11: 10
                +1
                Quote: mikh-korsakov
                Krasnoyarsk Remember how Balda in Pushkin's fairy tale entrusted the contest with the priest to his "little brother". The smaller brother did an excellent job of 70: 100 in firing against missiles - a mark of "very good." We will also train to shoot at "excellent". The Russian Federation in two years turned the Syrian army from rabble into a combat-ready army. In addition, Putin’s friend and partner were told exactly where to shoot, and the partner complied, the damage was symbolic .. This was our help, believe me more valuable than indulging couch strategists. In short, they gave not a fish, but a fishing rod.

                I’m actually talking about Thomas, and you, for some reason, are talking about Yerema. For clarification - to the post of Stas.
            2. konstantin68
              konstantin68 April 15 2018 09: 46
              +8
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              The Russian president and government in the situation with Syria DEMONSTRATELY showed their weakness. The weak have no allies.

              This is all nonsense. I'm tired of already explaining why. I'll try again in general terms. What is the Russian Federation showed weakness? The fact that in a deliberately losing situation has reduced everything to an “agreement”? At this theater, our forces are not comparable, but this time, Russia was heard and its interests were taken into account.
              And again: what do you think should be done to show strength? Hint: consider the situation from a wider angle, the world is not limited to Syria.
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk April 15 2018 17: 44
                +2
                Quote: konstantin68
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                The Russian president and government in the situation with Syria DEMONSTRATELY showed their weakness. The weak have no allies.

                This is all nonsense. I'm tired of already explaining why. I'll try again in general terms. What is the Russian Federation showed weakness? The fact that in a deliberately losing situation has reduced everything to an “agreement”? At this theater, our forces are not comparable, but this time, Russia was heard and its interests were taken into account.
                And again: what do you think should be done to show strength? Hint: consider the situation from a wider angle, the world is not limited to Syria.

                In a knowingly losing situation, they keep their mouth shut, and do not threaten to destroy the carriers. This is image loss. Easy to crap one’s face, hard to wash oneself.
            3. Setrac
              Setrac April 15 2018 14: 18
              +2
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              Argument.

              This you must argue
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              The Russian president and government in the situation with Syria DEMONSTRATELY showed their weakness.

              There are no Russians on Jupiter - have they also shown their weakness?
        2. Baby sitter
          Baby sitter April 15 2018 08: 42
          +7
          That's for sure! There was no honor, no valor, no fidelity in the world. Some male LGBT people, cowards and sticky fish. It is difficult for Russia to fight alone for Truth.
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          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 15 2018 09: 07
            +4
            “Old Soviet air defense systems”, but they aren’t that old - With 125 they modernized in the middle of the 2000s, put the “Shell” before the 2010 40, mixed up the Buk M1 with C 200, the Osa AKM complex is capable of intercepting cruise missiles. Everything is at the level of modern air defense.
            1. Don
              Don April 15 2018 09: 29
              +9
              Quote: Vadim237
              “Old Soviet air defense systems”, but they aren’t that old - With 125 they modernized in the middle of the 2000s, put the “Shell” before the 2010 40, mixed up the Buk M1 with C 200, the Osa AKM complex is capable of intercepting cruise missiles. Everything is at the level of modern air defense.

              Any, more or less self-respecting air defense expert, and not a magazine ... well, you will be told that it is impossible to shoot down so many missiles with such forces. The problem is that propaganda leaves no room for expert opinions. Hence the ongoing endless spitting in the face of Russia, from major powers to small countries. You can endlessly convince your citizens how strong we are, if no one else believes in it besides us. Yes, it’s not even a matter of faith, but, most importantly, of opportunities! This is where unpleasant reality awaits us.
              1. hrych
                hrych April 15 2018 09: 51
                +14
                Quote: Donskoy
                Any more or less self-respecting air defense expert

                This is clearly not you. The United States missile launchers themselves are subsonic as a target, after hijacking a radar, simple relative to high-speed and maneuvering fighters. One problem is that they sneak near the surface and go around the relief and are selected close to the target, and the reaction time is reduced, but ... this is quite enough for air defense systems. Also, unlike the Shairat base, where 58 missiles were launched immediately, less than 20 each were launched at the airfields, and if Shairat was able to fight off half, the amount of the current strike allowed to be completely repelled. Also, the Russian Federation created an air defense system in Syria, when the attack was repelled against important objects such as airfields, but they did not react to the attack on already destroyed empty buildings. Hence the lack of losses and the shame of the Entente. And you can deny everything, you have your own point of view, steeper than the General Staff and even the Supreme laughing
                1. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk April 15 2018 17: 55
                  +1
                  Hrych, and how do you comment on this: CRs directed to an unused airport are shot down by 55%, while those directed to the capital of the Kyrgyz Republic are shot down by 23%. Do not you think the distribution of the existing missile defense forces by the Syrians seems illogical? Or maybe the digital was written from the "ceiling", but in a hurry?
              2. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek April 15 2018 16: 19
                +2
                Quote: Donskoy
                Any, more or less self-respecting air defense expert, and not a magazine ... well, you will be told that it is impossible to shoot down so many missiles with such forces.

                recourse recourse and if any more or less self-respecting expert tells that you can shoot down so many missiles, then what ??? what wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
          2. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk April 15 2018 09: 18
            0
            Quote: Donskoy
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            The Russian president and government in the situation with Syria DEMONSTRATELY showed their weakness

            And on all our channels they show how Russia has once again shown strength request
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            There is nothing muddy in the Kazakhs. You just need to know the mentality of the people. Unlike the Russians, they, like all Turkic and Caucasian peoples, have no concept of truth, justice. They only have a concept of power and unconditional submission to it.

            What incredulous however winked Putin showed them cartoons, but they don’t want to believe request And yesterday they generally said that they shot down 71 cruise missiles with old Soviet air defense systems, and here, except for a small part of the Russians themselves, no one else believed. What to do, right trouble. Maybe it was necessary to say that all the missiles were shot down, maybe then they would understand how strong Russia is?
            But seriously, for some reason no one really tries to get in touch with the Chinese, because they know that you can eat away so that you can’t collect the bones later. But Russia is obsessed with everyone. So much for nuclear missiles laughing
            1. Kostya Minkin
              Kostya Minkin April 16 2018 12: 19
              0
              Russia is a completely different matter, it has a sacred meaning. Our territory is too large and the population is small, and the people are not so stupid, but stubborn to justice. They constantly drive us into some scams. And the Chinese have a completely different philosophy of life. They’re more cunning and watching, don’t to which Syria they don’t climb. If they fill us up, then they are next. Although this will never happen !!! WE AM REDUCING BOSCH !!
          3. hrych
            hrych April 15 2018 09: 23
            +14
            Well, you don’t understand military affairs and technology, judging by your comments, you don’t have access to classified information naturally ... On what basis do you question the data of our General Staff? You don’t understand politics, you write about the Chinese, they say they don’t communicate with them, but you probably didn’t hear about Taiwan, about their relations with the USA, etc. You are a weak blogger, you’ve reached the wrong site, you should discuss Dom-2 housewiveswassat
            1. Don
              Don April 15 2018 09: 52
              +8
              Oh, cool, the specialist showed up wassat It's high time, and then the second day no one (except Putin's adherents) can believe in the figures voiced by the General Staff. Let’s explain to us on the fingers how this is possible, but, please, not from a position of faith?
              Quote: hrych
              On what basis do you question the data of our General Staff?
              And why should I believe in a fairy tale? request
              Quote: hrych
              You don’t understand politics, you write about the Chinese, they say they don’t communicate with them, but you probably didn’t hear about Taiwan, about their relations with the USA, etc.

              Yeah, I heard it right. In recent years, the world has only been discussing news about the economic and political sanctions of leading countries against China, its enterprises and leaders.
              Quote: hrych
              Weak blogger, you got on the wrong site, you should discuss house-2 housewiveswassat
              So you appreciated the level of your knowledge and your place in life. Well, what can I wish, good luck, surrounded by peers crying
              1. hrych
                hrych April 15 2018 09: 56
                +7
                Do your homework tomorrow at school wassat
                1. Don
                  Don April 15 2018 10: 03
                  +7
                  Quote: hrych
                  Do your homework tomorrow at school wassat

                  Calm down, old ..., take some medicine, you just forgot that now is spring and you have an aggravation of your incurable disease. Here Putin has reduced the bed in Durkee, now you are being released from the hospital, although it is clearly visible that you are completely inadequate.
          4. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk April 15 2018 09: 30
            +9
            Quote: Donskoy
            And on all our channels they show how Russia has once again shown strength

            You understand that these propagandists work. Only "in the wrong steppe" they work. According to all the rules of combat propaganda, they should not be talking about downed rockets and about minimal damage. Instead, they should show destroyed hospitals, schools, killed children, women, old people. It does not matter when and where these photos were taken, the main thing is to "raise the wave." Call Trump, in this regard, the killer of children. Let it be justified. Well, it's time to learn propaganda from the arrogant Saxons. Stop making yourself purebred! The darkest urgent need to establish a ministry of propaganda. And so that they do not chew snot.
          5. Bar1
            Bar1 April 15 2018 09: 51
            +4
            Quote: Donskoy
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            The Russian president and government in the situation with Syria DEMONSTRATELY showed their weakness

            And on all our channels they show how Russia has once again shown strength request
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            There is nothing muddy in the Kazakhs. You just need to know the mentality of the people. Unlike the Russians, they, like all Turkic and Caucasian peoples, have no concept of truth, justice. They only have a concept of power and unconditional submission to it.

            What incredulous however winked Putin showed them cartoons, but they don’t want to believe request And yesterday they generally said that they shot down 71 cruise missiles with old Soviet air defense systems, and here, except for a small part of the Russians themselves, no one else believed. What to do, right trouble. Maybe it was necessary to say that all the missiles were shot down, maybe then they would understand how strong Russia is?
            But seriously, for some reason no one really tries to get in touch with the Chinese, because they know that you can eat away so that you can’t collect the bones later. But Russia is obsessed with everyone. So much for nuclear missiles laughing


            71 this is not the right figure, right 77%
          6. igorka357
            igorka357 April 15 2018 10: 38
            +7
            Are you seriously so heavy, or pretend to be? Your wise monkey sat on a tree for a thousand years and watched everything ... watched, sometimes climbed and scooped up, then scooped up again, and again ... maybe remember the great Chinese victories, I doubt it very much! And Russia , it’s always been like a bone in the throat for the West, they have enmity in our blood! And you probably think that if there were a Chinese contingent in Syria .. would the Americans not launch rockets? Haha ... Don naive young man .. ! And everyone turns away from us because, after the sanctions imposed on the Russian Federation, we stopped all for pennies to give, and before what a freebie it was, Volodka gives, so we’re on his feet! This is the essence of such peoples, Ukrainians, Kazakhs ... and what Ukrainians are all! I always asked what Donbass does not even make an attempt to join the referendum, it’s strange isn’t it .. The Russian world and all that, Russia help, Russia is with us ... yes, only you help Russia, regain our sovereignty, help to restore it, humanitarian aid, and then quietly dump it off .. we’ll kind of steer ourselves .. .hrenushka wah Ukrainians Donbass, you want to steer yourself, and fight yourself! Kazashata is not better .. lived there not alone god..znaem such narodtse!
            1. Skarpzd
              Skarpzd April 15 2018 10: 41
              +4
              actually they held a referendum a long time ago.
              1. igorka357
                igorka357 April 15 2018 15: 35
                0
                Seriously, but where ... in a couple I sat down ...? Lugansk held a referendum in its entirety? Donetsk maybe? Maybe you remember how the Crimea got up, or maybe compare it with Odessa, where 300-500 scumbags, the whole hero city bent .. .it’s not funny to God, the Ukrainians degenerated .. I don’t believe them! How many I know our Ukrainians, those who are in Russia from youth .. these are not the Ukrainians who are there, and now they come to us to earn money, most of them from Donbass .. instead of defending their independence! In any nation there are heroes, and there are cowards .. but in the nation of Ukrainians, the percentage is very high .. God, I apologize if I offended anyone !!!
            2. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk April 15 2018 18: 12
              +2
              Quote: igorka357
              Are you seriously so heavy, or pretend to be? Your wise monkey sat on a tree for a thousand years and watched everything ... watched, sometimes climbed and scooped up, then scooped up again, and again ... maybe remember the great Chinese victories, I doubt it very much! And Russia , it’s always been like a bone in the throat for the West, they have enmity in our blood! And you probably think that if there were a Chinese contingent in Syria .. would the Americans not launch rockets? Haha ... Don naive young man .. ! And everyone turns away from us because, after the sanctions imposed on the Russian Federation, we stopped all for pennies to give, and before what a freebie it was, Volodka gives, so we’re on his feet! This is the essence of such peoples, Ukrainians, Kazakhs ... and what Ukrainians are all! I always asked what Donbass does not even make an attempt to join the referendum, it’s strange isn’t it .. The Russian world and all that, Russia help, Russia is with us ... yes, only you help Russia, regain our sovereignty, help to restore it, humanitarian aid, and then quietly dump it off .. we’ll kind of steer ourselves .. .hrenushka wah Ukrainians Donbass, you want to steer yourself, and fight yourself! Kazashata is not better .. lived there not alone god..znaem such narodtse!

              If you only knew what nonsense they wrote. Emotionally, at first glance, even for a near-by person, it seems to be right. But in fact - stupidity from misunderstanding and not knowledge. You absolutely do not understand the essence of what happened in Ukraine, Donbass, Odessa. And you decide to judge. First, study the essence of the issue, and then ... speak with your tongue.
              1. igorka357
                igorka357 April 16 2018 06: 49
                0
                Krasnoyarsk, with the Ukrainian flag ..? Apparently you are feeding a family in Siberia? Well, don’t worry, we have enough of them in Ust-Ilimsk, I personally rented an apartment for them .. in that year, 15, three hefty “shocking” ravines ... defenders Mlyn ... where is the Donbass, and where is Ust-Ilimsk! And apparently the essence, the stupidity and venality of the Ukrainian people, the Odessa cowardice, and the Donbass’s unwillingness to become part of the Russian Federation, is only understandable to you! . they would have been torn to pieces .. but you know why, but because Siberia ... but not Hohland! Sorry, the saying "My hut from the edge" I did not come up with, not a year or ten ago!
                1. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk April 16 2018 09: 29
                  0
                  Quote: igorka357
                  Krasnoyarsk, with the Ukrainian flag ..? Apparently you are feeding a family in Siberia? Well, don’t worry, we have enough of them in Ust-Ilimsk, I personally rented an apartment for them .. in that year, 15, three hefty “shocking” ravines ... defenders Mlyn ... where is the Donbass, and where is Ust-Ilimsk! And apparently the essence, the stupidity and venality of the Ukrainian people, the Odessa cowardice, and the Donbass’s unwillingness to become part of the Russian Federation, is only understandable to you! . they would have been torn to pieces .. but you know why, but because Siberia ... but not Hohland! Sorry, the saying "My hut from the edge" I did not come up with, not a year or ten ago!

                  Well, what can we say to a person whom God has deprived of his mind? Whatever I say, all for nothing. Your trouble is that you were not taught bit by bit to collect and analyze information yourself. In your head has formed, or rather you think that has developed, a picture, say in Ukraine, from puzzles that are from several different pictures. Are you sure that they are from one. Hence the nonsense that you carry. I’m not sure, or rather, I’m sure that you don’t want to collect all the information on Ukraine starting in the autumn of '13 and analyze it. Because it is work, and you are a lazy person. Because you do not know how to analyze. Because the position taken by you is convenient for you personally, because, otherwise, you have to admit that you are wrong. And this, in your opinion, is humiliating. But you are mistaken, to admit your mistake and correct it, this is the destiny of an intelligent person. And persist in your delusions, inheritance
            3. Don
              Don April 15 2018 20: 11
              +1
              Quote: igorka357
              Are you seriously so heavy, or pretend to be? Your wise monkey sat on a tree for a thousand years and watched everything ... watched, sometimes climbed and scooped up, then scooped up again, and again ... maybe remember the great Chinese victories, I doubt it very much! And Russia , it’s always been like a bone in the throat for the West, they have enmity in our blood! And you probably think that if there were a Chinese contingent in Syria .. would the Americans not launch rockets? Haha ... Don naive young man .. ! And everyone turns away from us because, after the sanctions imposed on the Russian Federation, we stopped all for pennies to give, and before what a freebie it was, Volodka gives, so we’re on his feet! This is the essence of such peoples, Ukrainians, Kazakhs ... and what Ukrainians are all! I always asked what Donbass does not even make an attempt to join the referendum, it’s strange isn’t it .. The Russian world and all that, Russia help, Russia is with us ... yes, only you help Russia, regain our sovereignty, help to restore it, humanitarian aid, and then quietly dump it off .. we’ll kind of steer ourselves .. .hrenushka wah Ukrainians Donbass, you want to steer yourself, and fight yourself! Kazashata is not better .. lived there not alone god..znaem such narodtse!

              Everything mixed up in the Oblonsky house: horses and people ... And the Kazakhs are bad, and the Ukrainians, even the Chinese, didn’t please something. belay
              It would be less for you to watch a zombie dog, but you better not look at all, then there will not be such a mess in your head wink
              1. igorka357
                igorka357 April 16 2018 06: 53
                0
                I lay down on the Chinese from a high mountain, not on the Kazakhs .. since they are still in the Collective Security Treaty Organization, and this is our buffer .. and the Ukrainians were brothers, but sold for mythical euros, and real cookies on the Maidan! Wait .. brothers Bulbash .. already looking in the same direction!
                1. Don
                  Don April 16 2018 07: 25
                  +1
                  Quote: igorka357
                  Wait ... the Bulbash brothers ... are already looking in the same direction!

                  How? and are they bad too? belay Next, who will you start to separate, Krasnodar? Rostov? Muscovy? Well, at least someone other than the residents of Ust-Ilimsk is normal?
                  Truly they say that if God wants to punish a person, he robs his brain winked
        4. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov April 15 2018 09: 40
          +2
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          You just need to know the mentality of the people.

          I don't know them bad hehe heh
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          They have only a concept of power and unconditional submission to it.

          All right ... While they are smiling cute, but it’s worth giving a slack and a scimitar in the back is provided!
          In the 90s I heard a lot of them .. So much ambition, mother do not grieve! I also smile at them and don’t turn my back ..) Kazakhs are no offense, but it is .. (well, if I’m wrong I’ll be ..)
          Okay, let's sing better .. Sincere song !!! fellow
          1. igorka357
            igorka357 April 15 2018 15: 36
            +1
            Well Vitaliy ... absolutely to the point !!!!
          2. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk April 15 2018 18: 18
            0
            Quote: MIKHAN
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            You just need to know the mentality of the people.

            I don't know them bad hehe heh
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            They have only a concept of power and unconditional submission to it.

            All right ... While they are smiling cute, but it’s worth giving a slack and a scimitar in the back is provided!
            In the 90s I heard a lot of them .. So much ambition, mother do not grieve! I also smile at them and don’t turn my back ..) Kazakhs are no offense, but it is .. (well, if I’m wrong I’ll be ..)
            Okay, let's sing better .. Sincere song !!! fellow

            In fact, northern Kazakhstan seems to be nothing, it’s more or less normal there. But the southern one ... Nationalism is developed there. Like in western Ukraine. So, if Kazakhstan begins, I think - it will begin, the Yankees will try, then from southern Kazakhstan. I know firsthand. Been there and there.
        5. igorka357
          igorka357 April 15 2018 10: 26
          +2
          The Kazakhs have such a mentality ..)))))? Only here all their life they went to the wards .. wink Right now, of course, and the Kazakhs can say "we say with the great Ukrainians the black sea was dripping .. and we also know the great kazy" ... laughing
        6. Slovak
          Slovak April 15 2018 21: 20
          0
          With your head, my friend, it’s bad. Or does the flag correspond to ukrosoderzhy?
        7. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 16 2018 21: 11
          0
          Where is Kazakhstan, and where are the patrons?
      3. Piramidon
        Piramidon April 15 2018 09: 02
        +6
        Quote: MIKHAN
        I always mistrusted the Kazakhs, muddy people ..

        Kazakhs (people) and Nazarbayev (ruling elite) - all the same, are slightly different concepts
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov April 15 2018 09: 32
          +4
          Quote: Piramidon
          Quote: MIKHAN
          I always mistrusted the Kazakhs, muddy people ..

          Kazakhs (people) and Nazarbayev (ruling elite) - all the same, are slightly different concepts

          I didn’t communicate with Nazarbayev .. Therefore, I am writing like that!
          On the border of Kazakhstan, Russia has long been a border network. built very modern towns and "Iskander" placed .. Why do you think? The territory is huge and they actually have no Army, so for a show-off .. And any gang of devils well-armed will pass through the territory of Kazakhstan to the border of the Russian Federation like a knife through butter .. That's the thing! And now Kazakhstan, with this modest "abstinence", has once again proved it to us .. There is something obviously being prepared, I smell with genes ..
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon April 15 2018 09: 42
            +3
            Quote: MIKHAN
            On the border of Kazakhstan, Russia has long been a border network. built very modern towns and Iskander posted

            Almost every year I visit the Kurgan region, which borders with Kazakhstan. We go to the Kazakhs for fishing. I did not meet any border guards and Iskanders. There are customs posts, but only on highways, and on small roads travel is free. Kazakhs go to Kurgan to trade markets every day. Arrived in the morning, left in the evening.
            1. Vitaly Anisimov
              Vitaly Anisimov April 15 2018 11: 13
              +2
              Quote: Piramidon
              We go to the Kazakhs for fishing. I did not meet any border guards and Iskanders. There are customs posts, but only on highways, and on small roads travel is free. Kazakhs go to Kurgan to trade markets every day. Arrived in the morning, left in the evening.

              Do not drive there .. And the Iskanders are hidden naturally hehe!
              Noble fishing among Kazakhs ... And hunting too! Cops greedy true and thick .. heh heh
              It’s better to go hunting for an armored troop-carrier .. Peaked caps immediately disappear in the reeds! laughing bully
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon April 15 2018 13: 31
                +3
                Quote: MIKHAN
                And the Iskanders are hidden naturally hehe heh!

                The main thing - "hehe", and the rest is like that nevermind. fool
                Vitaly, I'm sorry, but for all my disposition towards you, I considered you a somewhat more adequate person. And just to “flaunt” and wave “flags” in order to earn “stars on local epaulets” for a person of your age, as it were, is not solid. hi
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym April 15 2018 14: 36
                  +3
                  Also noticed, Stepan. With age, Vitali does not become wiser. He caught and killed all animals, and now our policemen do not allow him to poach with us - that’s angry.
                  When I ask you to cite his facts of an unfriendly attitude of the KZ to the Russian Federation, then silence is in response. hi
                  1. Piramidon
                    Piramidon April 15 2018 16: 27
                    0
                    In July I plan to go to Kurgan again, and again we are heading for fishing in Kazakhstan. Agreed, men are already waiting for us there. Kazakh cognac, they say, has already been prepared. Cool drinks.

                2. Vitaly Anisimov
                  Vitaly Anisimov April 15 2018 14: 58
                  0
                  Quote: Piramidon
                  And just to "flaunt" and "wave" flags, in order to earn "stars on local epaulettes" for a person of your age, as it’s not respectable

                  Well, I wave sometimes, but seriously I have nothing to lose .. hi
                  Quote: Kasym
                  Also noticed, Stepan. With age, Vitali does not become wiser. He caught and killed all animals, and now our policemen do not allow him to poach with us - that’s angry.

                  Well you guys are right .. laughing Well, I’m honestly honest ..! Good luck to you all .. bully
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine April 16 2018 21: 14
            0
            I completely agree that something is conceived in this "muddy water" I also feel the spinal cord.
      4. Skif83
        Skif83 April 15 2018 09: 08
        +4
        East is a delicate matter...
        What can mean “abstinence” of the representative of Kazakhstan in the UN Security Council?

        Only the same thing, Asians, as always, bow before the strong, while bargaining for their vassalism. This does not mean that at night they do not sharpen a knife against you!
        1. Babur_Imperat
          Babur_Imperat April 16 2018 07: 45
          0
          Why do your Slavic brothers not support you at the UN and ask for support from the Turks when you took all their wealth from the Turks and gave gifts to your Slavs to show themselves good all the high-tech defense and other factories built them and made the Turks raw materials bases and cotton growers who do not remember kinship they will destroy all their great stories and write down his own together with him, but Allah sees everything of your atrocities !!!
          Kazakhstan owes you nothing!
          When did you enter Syria, did you consult with us?
          Did we give you promises?
          Kazakhstan made the wrong choice in 2012, together with Uzbekistan, it was supposed to leave the CST, then Russia wanted Uzbekistan to enter its camp, but Uzbekistan resisted the powerful pressure of Russia. Russia began to press on all sides by means of provocation with Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan promised a lot of things to these states independence from Uzbekistan in all areas, wanted to create a bloc from these countries against Uzbekistan, promised these countries $ 1 billion each to modernize the army and other nishtyaks, but did not fulfill any promises Gazprom left the Gissar gas field without drilling a river; left the Rogun hydroelectric station without building these countries remained torn as suckers and Uzbekistan returned all lost ground in these countries gave them $ 100 million each to buy Uzbek goods and signed many million contracts and they became respect Uzbeks. If today the West tells you that let's be friends, you are the first to run with your hands out, forgetting about all the promises with China and with others, you once betrayed everyone and will still convey to you no one believes. You do not have honor and dignity, therefore the West turns you as it wants and wherever it wants.
          You must return all the Turkic lands to the Turks!
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack April 16 2018 07: 47
            +1
            Quote: Babur_Imperatorlugu
            all Turkic lands to Turks

            Exactly.
            And for each passenger - in a soft place.
            MINUS laughing
      5. Hanokem
        Hanokem April 15 2018 10: 48
        +1
        Russia does not need partners. She needs vassals. Kazakhstan does not like this role
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov April 15 2018 11: 07
          +6
          Quote: Hanokem
          Russia does not need partners. She needs vassals. Kazakhstan does not like this role

          Unlike you, we "vassals" respect and train and help build them ..
          And you are Jews. just bomb and rob, along with the Anglo-Saxons .... Do you want me to object? soldier
          1. Hanokem
            Hanokem April 15 2018 11: 19
            +3
            Meehan, it’s very easy to reconcile us. Throw your combat sofa and come to Syria to support the Syrian brothers. This will make us tremble and appease our vultures. And the arrogant Saxons also tremble only about one thought about you ...
            1. Vitaly Anisimov
              Vitaly Anisimov April 15 2018 12: 42
              +4
              Quote: Hanokem
              Meehan, it’s very easy to reconcile us. Throw your combat sofa and come to Syria to support the Syrian brothers. This will make us tremble and appease our vultures. And the arrogant Saxons also tremble only about one thought about you ...

              I'm already tired of you .. Well, okay. you are not fixable! bully
      6. antivirus
        antivirus April 15 2018 12: 20
        +1
        MAKE A LOT OF INVESTMENTS TO GET, BECAUSE "OCCUPIED" BY RUSSIA AND THE LITTLE UNDER THE KREMLINE-- "THEY ALL TAKEN IT. DISSEMPTED BY YOURSELF. WE ARE WEAK, NEUTRAL, TRUST NOMBER"
        no long-term political traditions of independent living
      7. viktor.
        viktor. April 15 2018 12: 47
        +1
        No matter what the Kazakhs are, they’ll always cover their backs, but one out of 100 Ukrainians can be, in a word, My Hut from the edge, It’s been checked in the army. yes
    2. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack April 15 2018 07: 45
      +30
      Quote: mig29mks
      Few people want to carry

      A sharp boy ... but there are no minuses request
      A "multi-vector" partners, yes - a little amusing, admit.
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis April 15 2018 08: 07
        +19
        Kuchma in Ukraine played out ...! In the "multi-vector" Porazdavalia Russia lands Russians to all sorts of muddy formations .. They created "republics" Fifteen republics and fifteen sisters
        Unbreakable fire of the brotherhood of the people "The specific khans and dukes with princes sat down firmly .. They betray desperately. For thirty pieces of silver they are ready to betray their mother! Nazarbayev is still fruit, his eyes are running around, looking for fats.
        1. Mwg
          Mwg April 15 2018 08: 29
          +7
          For 30 vis.
          Exactly. And now these "sisters" who are trying to jump out to marry an overseas guy, and who just spend the night with him. The guy is seemingly major: we can give earrings, treat them with a burger, ride on a helix, or just dump a little dough))))
          1. Hagalaz
            Hagalaz April 15 2018 09: 04
            +3
            Quote: MVG
            For 30 vis.
            Exactly. And now these "sisters" who are trying to jump out to marry an overseas guy, and who just spend the night with him. The guy is seemingly major: we can give earrings, treat them with a burger, ride on a helix, or just dump a little dough))))

            Yes Yes. Well, this is how it is at first. Then you will have to stand with earrings in your ears in the Z pose.
        2. Hagalaz
          Hagalaz April 15 2018 08: 57
          +4
          Quote: 30 vis
          Kuchma in Ukraine played out ...! In the "multi-vector" Porazdavalia Russia lands Russians to all sorts of muddy formations .. They created "republics" Fifteen republics and fifteen sisters
          Unbreakable fire of the brotherhood of the people "The specific khans and dukes with princes sat down firmly .. They betray desperately. For thirty pieces of silver they are ready to betray their mother! Nazarbayev is still fruit, his eyes are running around, looking for fats.

          In general terms, you are right. But for complete justice, call everything by their proper names to the end. It was not Russia that was distributing the land, but grandfather Lenin, respected by many, and other bigs / communists. Suychas Putin (not defending, calm down) hang up for me ..... Ready for about. Damansky. And the fact that they lost the protectorate over Poland and Finland, divided the primordial Russia into specific principalities, and then the official principalities were also attributed to the principalities, it’s like God's dew.
        3. dSK
          dSK April 15 2018 10: 04
          +1
          Quote: 30 vis
          Nazarbayev is still fruit, his eyes are running

          Hired Tony Blair, Bush’s Pug, to join the WTO. Only the States, if they need it, will be "beaten" by the rules of the WTO ... Trump has bragged that he already has ten grandchildren, they go to "English" schools and do not know the Russian language. The states are implementing a standard scheme - according to the “lemon” of bucks, to hundreds of deputies and ministers, their children are “Anglican” colleges and a new “colony” is ready.
      2. Ross_ulair
        Ross_ulair April 15 2018 09: 46
        +2
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        A "multi-vector" partners, yes - a little amusing, admit.

        So this is local princes, Asian ... And even European ones come across, yes. The very ones that the USSR collapsed at the time, and then founded their "eternal" family dynasties, so that with absolute power, therefore, to rule. "Forever."
        But they don’t understand what they need — only for the final killing of Russia by the West. And they will merge at any opportunity, if there is a blow to Russia as a profit - a vivid example is a certain politician, 4 years as hanging around in Rostov ...
        And in the event of a military conflict - they, I think, will not immediately fit on the side of the elves - they are all cunning. They will all look to the last to join the winner.
        Threat Only Old Man is an exception - the only one who openly and publicly spoke out and spoke out for the inadmissibility of the collapse of the Country. But he also has two chairs, he constantly trains in acrobatics ...
        1. Kasym
          Kasym April 15 2018 13: 48
          +1
          Michael, good day! I have no idea why our diplomats voted so and what Russia proposed in the resolution. But about the Old Man, you were mistaken. He was not there at the collapse. But the NAS back in 93g. in the state. The Duma and the Moscow State University pushed reasonable speeches about the collapse, and why again it will have to deal with the restoration of the Union - therefore, it has at least the support of the GDP in the elections. Since then, we have been living under “unspoken sanctions”. hi
    3. INTER
      INTER April 15 2018 07: 53
      +7
      Quote: mig29mks
      Few people want to carry over.

      It's not evening yet, we saw your vaunted super smart rockets.
      Well, the Syrians conducted joint exercises with the United States, nothing will show everything.
    4. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don April 15 2018 08: 01
      +25
      Kazakhstan will manifest itself in all its “beauty”, these are the territories of Russia donated to the Kazakhs, and the Latin, and Baikonur. I do not in any way call for a break with Kazakhstan, but conclusions must be drawn now, including military-political ones, and friendships should be made on the principle of "money in the morning to evening friendship."
    5. Eduard petrov
      Eduard petrov April 15 2018 08: 05
      +8
      Quote: mig29mks
      Few people want to carry over.

      I wrote that we will not increase allies after 13.04, now, the first swallow.
    6. den3080
      den3080 April 15 2018 08: 13
      +17
      the reason for Kazakhstan’s “abstinence” is very simple - the Americans hold Nazarbayev tightly for the 22 billion worth of "elbasa". He’s not dancing like that now either.
      1. Mwg
        Mwg April 15 2018 08: 31
        +1
        For den3080. The situation is exactly the same as with Yanukovych
        1. den3080
          den3080 April 15 2018 09: 02
          +6
          I don’t remember what happened with the Yanukovosch ... a golden loaf ... 3 billion from the noble Russian shoulder a couple of months before it was kicked out ... with pissed rags ...

          but the legend about Elbas is quite fresh :) Nursultan Abishevich flew himself ... like the most ordinary patient ... well ... they didn’t return 22 yards (no one expected), thank God they didn’t take away payza ... yet
        2. Tatyana
          Tatyana April 15 2018 09: 07
          +2
          Quote: den3080
          the reason for Kazakhstan’s “abstinence” is very simple - the Americans hold Nazarbayev tightly for the 22 billion worth of "elbasa". He’s not dancing like that now either.
          That's right!

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      3. jovanni
        jovanni April 15 2018 09: 17
        +2
        Quote: den3080
        the reason for Kazakhstan’s “abstinence” is very simple - the Americans hold Nazarbayev tightly for the 22 billion worth of "elbasa". He’s not dancing like that now either.

        Well, our "elbasa" will be thicker. It’s even more convenient to keep us. So we tolerate, though grunting ... Sometimes ...
      4. Victor N
        Victor N April 15 2018 09: 29
        +1
        ...... and you do not steal. Nazarbayev framed himself, so he was seized.
    7. Bar1
      Bar1 April 15 2018 08: 23
      +12
      in general, the Kazakhs behave as if they owe nothing to Russia and the Russian people. It was the Bolsheviks who cut the Kazakh Hordes a piece of land that he never had and certainly would never have been able to keep him in case of war. Not to mention culture and cities, which the Russians built in Kazakhstan, and now they don’t need the Russian language, they became closer to the Latin alphabet, and they drive the Russians themselves from their land. What is happening with this Kazakhstan? Maybe it's time to take some measures to clear the brains of the Kazakhs? For example, to begin with, to introduce an additional duty on Kazakh oil, then these highly independent ones will think about who they are more dependent on Russia or on pin_dos.
      1. Civilian
        Civilian April 15 2018 08: 58
        0
        Quote: Bar1
        in general, the Kazakhs behave as if they owe nothing to Russia and the Russian people. It was the Bolsheviks who cut the Kazakh Hordes a piece of land that he never had and certainly would never have been able to keep him in case of war. Not to mention culture and cities, which the Russians built in Kazakhstan, and now they don’t need the Russian language, they became closer to the Latin alphabet, and they drive the Russians themselves from their land. What is happening with this Kazakhstan?

        "do not do good, do not get evil"
        How do you say Cote d'Ivoire voted? Where is it? And Kuwait?
        I now somehow "fie" on their point of view, and Sweden with the Netherlands, there too.
        1. Bar1
          Bar1 April 15 2018 09: 01
          +2
          Quote: Civilian
          I now somehow "fie" on their point of view, and Sweden with the Netherlands, there too.


          but I don’t. These are our neighbors and how our neighbors will behave like friends or shit in their pocket, it doesn’t matter to me. In the Baltic states it’s already NATO, soon it will be in Ukraine, do you want what it was in Kazakhstan?
          1. Civilian
            Civilian April 15 2018 09: 11
            +1
            Quote: Bar1
            but I don’t. These are our neighbors and how our neighbors will behave like friends or shit in their pocket, it doesn’t matter to me. In the Baltic states it’s already NATO, soon it will be in Ukraine, do you want what it was in Kazakhstan?

            Yes, I'm actually talking about Cote d'Ivoire, it’s not like a neighbor (for now wink )
            I categorically do not want NATO to be in Kazakhstan. But unfortunately, little depends on our desires.
            1. Bar1
              Bar1 April 15 2018 09: 39
              0
              Quote: Civilian
              Quote: Bar1
              but I don’t. These are our neighbors and how our neighbors will behave like friends or shit in their pocket, it doesn’t matter to me. In the Baltic states it’s already NATO, soon it will be in Ukraine, do you want what it was in Kazakhstan?

              Yes, I'm actually talking about Cote d'Ivoire, it’s not like a neighbor (for now wink )
              I categorically do not want NATO to be in Kazakhstan. But unfortunately, little depends on our desires.


              the information impact is valid, otherwise this site would not exist, but yours doesn’t care lessen the general opinion, therefore people like you are not from our circle.
              1. Civilian
                Civilian April 15 2018 10: 07
                0
                Quote: Bar1
                the information impact is valid, otherwise this site would not exist, but yours doesn’t care lessen the general opinion, therefore people like you are not from our circle.

                Timur, why are you so worried about Côte d'Ivoire? I really have little interest in his opinion. And where did you see that I "do not care" what is happening in Kazakhstan? To be honest, I do not care more about what is being done in the Baltic states (believe me, there are reasons for this).
                And why immediately go to the person? It’s a pity, of course, that I’m not in the “circle”. smile
                hi
          2. Victor N
            Victor N April 15 2018 09: 37
            +1
            Kazakhstan will face steep internal showdowns and strong pressure from the Islamists. They will sing and bleed.
      2. jovanni
        jovanni April 15 2018 09: 23
        +1
        Quote: Bar1
        Kazakhs generally behave as if they owe nothing to Russia and the Russian people

        Actually, it is necessary to replace “Kazakhs” with “Russian oligarchs” in the quote, and everything will fall into place. Now, if they clean their brains, then everyone will catch up. And the Kazakhs and Ethiopians with different Finns. Yes, just to see the "cleaner" we have not grown. Hopefully for now ...
        1. Bar1
          Bar1 April 15 2018 09: 42
          0
          Quote: Jovanni
          Quote: Bar1
          Kazakhs generally behave as if they owe nothing to Russia and the Russian people

          Actually, it is necessary to replace “Kazakhs” with “Russian oligarchs” in the quote, and everything will fall into place. Now, if they clean their brains, then everyone will catch up. And the Kazakhs and Ethiopians with different Finns. Yes, just to see the "cleaner" we have not grown. Hopefully for now ...


          Yes, that’s not how the people make decisions, but the elite, such as ours, that the Kazakhs, are infringing and destroying the Russian people, it’s so fashionable to have fun right now, to drive the Russians everywhere.
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 15 2018 07: 39
    +19
    The same Kazakhstan, which is located not only in the Eurasian Economic Union, but also in the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO).

    ... Kazakhs cave in before the mericatos ... and noticeably already, quite a long time ago ... angry
    1. INTER
      INTER April 15 2018 07: 54
      +10
      Quote: aszzz888
      ... Kazakhs cave in before the mericatos ... and noticeably already, quite a long time ago ...

      Latinization however .....
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 April 15 2018 08: 02
        +1
        INTER Today, 07: 54 ↑
        Quote: aszzz888
        ... Kazakhs cave in before the mericatos ... and noticeably already, quite a long time ago ...
        Latinization however .....

        And not without it, including ...
  3. 210ox
    210ox April 15 2018 07: 39
    +5
    Well, what can I say .... Russian and Kazakh brothers forever? Or is there a certain limit? Limited by the term "no matter what happens"
  4. svp67
    svp67 April 15 2018 07: 40
    +20
    The same Kazakhstan, which is located not only in the Eurasian Economic Union, but also in the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO).
    And what, that he is somewhere there? That’s all, his recent actions show that he sees Russia as a “situational ally,” and it’s time for us to decide and stop remembering some kind of “brotherhood of nations,” but it becomes Pragmatic. For how many years they have been calling for this, but apparently to someone, this position of Russia is not beneficial, since it will immediately "cut off" many of the cash flows that flow "just like that" to our "allies"
    1. Solomon Kane
      Solomon Kane April 15 2018 07: 56
      +7
      Yes it seems that the position
      "situational ally"
      not only satisfied with Kazakhs ....
      It is time to get rid of the "passengers" ..... Like it or not, and striped in this matter are more pragmatic ......
  5. askort154
    askort154 April 15 2018 07: 42
    +32
    Nazarbayev for 22 billion. Trump’s shoes will be cleaned if he “asks.”
    Russia does not have friends, there are parasites. Just like the USA.
    1. populist
      populist April 15 2018 07: 59
      +7
      askort154 (Alexander)
      Russia does not have friends, there are parasites. Just like the USA.

      You are right about Russia. But the United States is not a parasite. The USA "milks" the whole world, including the Russian Federation. It is now obvious that the entire Kremlin policy on the creation of allied states, unions, blocs and treaties failed.
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic April 15 2018 07: 44
    +10
    The principle of “own shirt closer to the body in action!” Kazakhs are a normal people, a government that has flown by 20 billion is now deprived of the right to degenerate its opinion! Or assent to the United States, or simply remain silent, such as abstained.
  7. sa-ag
    sa-ag April 15 2018 07: 48
    0
    "22 billion US dollars"
    This is the reason, as well as other amounts of other investors
  8. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch April 15 2018 07: 50
    +16
    The deadline is coming; Nazarbayev is not eternal. Kazakhstan has a lot of things underground, so this is the next "passenger" for America, work is ongoing. There, it may happen that 404th cutest people seem.
    1. izya top
      izya top April 15 2018 07: 54
      +12
      Quote: iliitch
      Kazakhstan has a lot of things underground

    2. sa-ag
      sa-ag April 15 2018 07: 58
      +1
      Quote: iliitch
      Kazakhstan has a lot of things underground, so this is the next "passenger" for America

      And what is there?
    3. miner
      miner April 15 2018 08: 14
      +3
      Anything can be underground, but the export of this good lies through Russia and China. "Over the sea, a little heifer, a half, but a transport rupe"
    4. Volodin
      Volodin April 15 2018 08: 16
      +4
      Quote: iliitch
      There are a lot of things underground in Kazakhstan, so this is the next “passenger” for America, work is underway

      The main thing there is not so much underground as “on the earth” - the longest border with Russia. This is primarily and interestingly overseas druzZyam
      1. dSK
        dSK April 15 2018 10: 22
        0
        Quote: Volodin
        the longest border with Russia

        If Kazakhstan “falls off”, not only Transib will be cut, all of Russia will be cut off.
  9. darksoul
    darksoul April 15 2018 07: 57
    +2
    Kazakhstan acts in its own interests, Russia has friends known for the army, navy and people who for their land even into the fire even into the water ..... the rest are all freebies that we should use as the United States in our interests, for our own benefit. .......
  10. Normal
    Normal April 15 2018 07: 59
    +6
    In principle, nothing new in this world has been revealed. They always try to make friends with the strong, although the stronger one will not loom. You can hardly be offended by this, but it’s necessary to take it into account.
  11. climatic
    climatic April 15 2018 07: 59
    +12
    We have no allies and will not have, except for situational ones, everyone wants to adhere to the strongest, with their policy of entering the "civilized world", the "free world" from the time of Gorbachev's "new thinking, from the time of" throwing people "who helped us and DRA, and in the GDR we ourselves have shown that on occasion we ourselves will lie under the powers that be, then demand something from Belarus and Kazakhstan, but Nazarbayev and Lukashenko are just those friends who are worse than foes, friends when they are profitable, as I hate Romanov’s gang, but Alexander 3 is right, apart from our Armed Forces we have no friends, and most importantly, we had “ours” in power, and when Peskov’s daughter, whom some already see as the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, cut off all this rubbish, Gref Crimea is not Russia, but Petka Tolstoy, "the nobleman speaks terribly on TV from the words of the nobleman, and then kisses Antoha Gerashchenko in Europe, advises him to drink oak bark instead of western medicines, and generally a" patriot ", and the kids study in the decaying west. The former BSSR and KakhSSR also lead
  12. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz April 15 2018 08: 01
    +9
    The worst thing is not that the countries abstained, but that by doing so they showed complete disregard for international law! What would they say if they were involved in the case, and not Syria, but Russia would support the West? ..
    They say the truth - before God decides to punish someone, he deprives him of his mind.
  13. Vita vko
    Vita vko April 15 2018 08: 02
    +6
    It is strange that only now they paid attention to the "friendly" position of Kazakhstan in the UN Security Council. As far as my memory serves me, in matters of confrontation between the United States and Russia, Kazakhstani diplomats constantly occupied the United States and only abstained in extreme cases, such as now. Therefore, to say that the United States is blackmailing Kazakhstan with frozen $ 22 billion from nat. Fund at least not correct. This is a systematic "friendly" position.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin April 15 2018 08: 21
      +1
      Quote: Vita VKO
      It is strange that only now paid attention to the "friendly" position of Kazakhstan in the UN Security Council

      Kazakhstan as a non-permanent member of the UN Security Council not so long ago - since 2017. And now - the temporary chairman
      1. dSK
        dSK April 15 2018 10: 37
        +1
        Non-permanent UN members are elected by the UN General Assembly for a two-year term. One state cannot take the place of a non-permanent member for more than one term in a row.
      2. Kasym
        Kasym April 15 2018 14: 07
        +1
        Alexei, KZ was in January a temporary pres. Of the Security Council. Now Peru rules.
        Vitaly, you can cite the facts of the "friendly" position of the KZ in the Security Council. As far as I remember, KZ (entering the Security Council in 17g) tried to stay neutral, but not against the Russian Federation. hi
  14. Masya masya
    Masya masya April 15 2018 08: 03
    +5
    This proves once again that one must rely on oneself and only on oneself ....
  15. Guillon
    Guillon April 15 2018 08: 03
    0
    After Trump muddied with Nazarbayev, the hope for Kazakhstan has vanished! request
    1. Kasym
      Kasym April 15 2018 13: 55
      +1
      And what they muddied there, do not tell me? hi
  16. samarin1969
    samarin1969 April 15 2018 08: 05
    +2
    And it is hardly an intrigue how Kazakhstan will vote, if it is necessary in response to the crimes of the Poroshenko regime, to strike with "smart missiles" at military facilities in Ukraine.
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  18. romb
    romb April 15 2018 08: 10
    +11
    Khe-khe ... Speak Kazakhstan abstained? But isn't Russia? Even as she abstained, in fact the drain of her ally in the conflict. The only thing that turned out to be capable of (and even after the raid) was to feed the little things with a condemnation of aggression. And how much pathos did the Russian leadership have ...
    1. Cheldon
      Cheldon April 15 2018 08: 52
      +3
      Those. because of three sheds and several wounded, do you propose to start the third world war, after which our descendants with a digging stick will look for food? Probably there is a PRU (anti-radiation shelter) near the house, so it’s so merciless laughing
      1. Skarpzd
        Skarpzd April 15 2018 08: 56
        +3
        Yes, you speak about 3MV. the USSR had so many conflicts with the Ami in the territories of third countries - the Chots survived as it is until now.
      2. romb
        romb April 15 2018 09: 23
        +1
        Here the issue is not the price of damage. The main thing is to express your position. And if possible - tough. So that others understand your principle. But I did not see this in the actual actions of the Russian leadership. Some frivolous formulations and semi-streamlined phrases.
        1. Dart
          Dart April 15 2018 10: 07
          +1
          the giraffe (canada) is large, he knows best ...! laughing
    2. Cheldon
      Cheldon April 15 2018 08: 54
      0
      Quote: romb
      Khe-khe ... Speak Kazakhstan abstained? But isn't Russia? Even as she abstained, in fact the drain of her ally in the conflict. The only thing that turned out to be capable of (and even after the raid) was to feed the little things with a condemnation of aggression. And how much pathos did the Russian leadership have ...

      Those. because of three sheds and several wounded, do you propose to start the third world war, after which our descendants with a digging stick will look for food? Probably there is a PRU (anti-radiation shelter) near the house, so it’s so merciless laughing
  19. prior
    prior April 15 2018 08: 12
    +11
    It seems more and more that the country's leadership has only political "impotent people." They stole, assigned cosmic salaries, arranged themselves with immunity, privileges, private security companies, Rosguards and everything, were blown away, life was a success. Neither the skripals, nor Syria, nor Ukraine with its terrorist seizures of Russian citizens and ships, nothing, from the word of ANYTHING except for concern.
    Or maybe the situation with Crimea was an unintentional, unexpected PUK? From which they themselves have become limited?
    Decisive actions in the post-Soviet space would find support both in Russia, and in these countries, and in the World. Why not hold referendums in all the republics of the former USSR? And the Russian Guard and the "green men" to help. Afraid of international law? Where is it? In Yugoslavia, in Iraq, Libya, in Syria ......? Where? Aw ........
    Then there would be no question, and from which budun Kazakhstan, in which half of the Russians, goes to the Latin alphabet and why he has abstinence, when voting at the UN.
  20. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn April 15 2018 08: 13
    +3
    Are you surprised?! Me not!
  21. Mikhail Zubkov
    Mikhail Zubkov April 15 2018 08: 17
    +9
    Putin sees Kazakhstan’s “half-witted opposition” in the UN regarding the difficult steps of the Russian Federation in the Security Council and the UN General Assembly. It's not the first time. You can track the glances of the "formal ally" to the West. You can find his "Chinese nods." Moreover, one can notice the "Turkish belly dancing". To understand the reasons, you need to know where his "diplomatic elite" received a language education. Where she studied law and economics, where she keeps her personal and state money, where she buys her career prospects. Discover the same West, led by the Melbritts (mainly), USA, Turkey, China. Often the outwardly emphasized "fraternity" of the oldest Nur Sultan resembles a familiar mask, a mask similar to ukroKravchuk, who in fact turned out to be an ardent Nazi and a deep enemy. It seems that he is simply teaching his future shift how to play cunningly with Russia, flirt with Europe and America, bow to China, fraternize ... Who should Kazakhstan fraternize with in the "front" in the EAEU and in the post-Soviet space in general? And with everyone who hates or does not like Russia ... It is already established in our environment and diasporas, and this is increasingly evident in the younger generations of the Kazakhs. MASSIVE.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym April 15 2018 14: 03
      +1
      Kazakhstan in January was the interim chairman of the UN Security Council, where he got last year. Maybe there is a reason?
      What is one unfriendly step on the part of KZ in modern history? Maybe where framed? What manifested this “lunacy” - maybe you read the text of the resolution? hi
      1. Fayter2017
        Fayter2017 April 17 2018 00: 44
        +1
        Why, when England accused Russia of poisoning the Skripals, half of Yorope sent Russian diplomats without straining evidence just because of solidarity with England? And Kazakhstan acted treacherously and it’s like in a joke, we found earrings but the sediment remained ...
  22. Dormidont
    Dormidont April 15 2018 08: 23
    +2
    But debt is red by payment. When the hordes of Igilovites, having escaped from Syria, begin to restore their order there, we will also abstain
  23. bald
    bald April 15 2018 08: 23
    +6
    I didn’t even doubt, to put it mildly, the “reliability” of this creation of the USSR (territory). All to whom we "gave" - ​​thank us to the fullest.
  24. anjey
    anjey April 15 2018 08: 28
    +3
    What can mean “abstinence” of the representative of Kazakhstan in the UN Security Council?
    What can you reckon with them, the cunning Kalbitian politics, mother of her ... We haven’t fully demonstrated the strength for this audience, and the partners of bl ... are changing ... (damn)
  25. RUSS
    RUSS April 15 2018 08: 34
    0
    It's time to translate Kazakh into Latin to please more partners overseas ... Strategic partner!
    Concerning the Latin alphabet in Kazakhstan, a far-fetched problem, in our native Karelia it is also Latin and nothing, everyone is happy with everything and there are no problems!
    1. sxfRipper
      sxfRipper April 15 2018 08: 40
      +3
      The Latin people themselves are not satisfied because of the peculiarities of the language, but I really want to bend to the Washington regional committee.
  26. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper April 15 2018 08: 38
    +1
    It's time to translate Kazakh to Latin
    As long as Russia is interested in Baikonur, nothing will be followed by such a show off here.
  27. friend of animals
    friend of animals April 15 2018 08: 42
    0
    China can afford it, but why should Kazakhstan harness these fights? What is the benefit for the state?
  28. Skarpzd
    Skarpzd April 15 2018 08: 46
    +4
    Quote: konstantin68
    Of course have! The Russians are already leaving, especially from the provinces. .

    Russians have been leaving for a long time. personally exported the family of a friend back in '98. then there was such a village of Tavria in the eastern region. on the shore of a smoker. there was a rich village. in the 80s. the Kuzminy settlement, the Buzko settlement. I exaggerate of course, but very close to the truth. poultry farms, fish. and then the collapse of the USSR and the stake on national footage. Further I think it makes no sense to tell. the coolest thing was at the border. Kazakh customs tore off the duty on the export of the national treasure - a couple of old carpets bought back in the USSR)))
  29. Skarpzd
    Skarpzd April 15 2018 08: 47
    0
    Quote: RUSS
    Quote: Skarpzd
    But are there any prerequisites?

    No, and never will be, there were some kind of languid attempts in the 90s!

    here I am about it
  30. UAZ 452
    UAZ 452 April 15 2018 08: 49
    +3
    Only the strong have friends. Once you relax, friends dissolve in the morning haze. Conclusion: to feed friends only for assurances of “eternal” friendship is a completely idiotic waste of resources.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 15 2018 09: 13
      0
      "Only the strong have friends. Once you relax, your friends dissolve in the morning haze." These are not friends; they are scammers. A true friend will always help and will be there.
  31. Russia
    Russia April 15 2018 08: 50
    +6
    "Abstinence" of Kazakhstan in the UN Security Council.

    Maybe I’m mistaken ... but political abstinence will easily lead to political impotence, and there is political sale nearby.
    This is the first!

    The second - it was recalled from history ...
    “When they came for the communists, I was silent. I'm not a communist.
    When they came for the Jews, I was silent. I’m not a Jew.
    When they came for me, nobody was around ... "


    Kazakhs - your "yurt from the edge" ?!
  32. Vard
    Vard April 15 2018 08: 54
    +3
    How it is ... A country has also been added to the collection of entities with reduced social responsibility ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 15 2018 09: 17
      +1
      Yes, all these countries are corrupt institutions: the Baltic states, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, it may well be that they got rid of them in 91 — now they have their own paths, which they themselves have chosen.
      1. Humpty
        Humpty April 15 2018 09: 48
        +2
        Quote: Vadim237
        Yes, all these countries are corrupt institutions: the Baltic states, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, it may well be that they got rid of them in 91 — now they have their own paths, which they themselves have chosen.

        They got rid along with the lands to which the so-called titular peoples were not directly related. Everyone probably knows the map of Ukraine with the gifts of kings and general secretaries. The same can be roughly compiled with respect to the member of the United Nations, which is discussed in the article.
        To put Ukraine on a par with the subject is fair. How about Belarus I don’t know. You may know better.
        1. Vaska-cat
          Vaska-cat April 15 2018 18: 40
          +1
          He wrote everything right.
          I am Minsker.
      2. anjey
        anjey April 15 2018 20: 26
        +1
        The West, on the other hand, flirts well with them, apparently promising sweet tales to this senile elite, who is really surviving from the mind ....
  33. Victor N
    Victor N April 15 2018 09: 14
    +1
    Disgusting, obscene behavior!
    Latin alphabet to help them and distance themselves as much as possible.
    1. vasya.pupkin
      vasya.pupkin April 15 2018 12: 46
      +1
      Quote: Victor N
      Disgusting, obscene behavior!
      Latin alphabet to help them and distance themselves as much as possible.

      Only at first did the whole union raise the Kustanai oblast-virgin soil.
  34. Mardvahe
    Mardvahe April 15 2018 09: 25
    +1
    And why be surprised, maybe the whole problem is not in the salaries, but in the current Russian politics. It seems that no one trusts Russia.
    1. someoneV
      someoneV April 15 2018 09: 39
      +1
      You just noticed the case in Russia, it will become strong, the opinion of the former republics of the USSR will not interest her. Remember how the Soviet Union was born.
    2. Dart
      Dart April 15 2018 10: 13
      +1
      Fear if Russia stops trusting.
  35. Ivan Tucha
    Ivan Tucha April 15 2018 09: 33
    +1
    Voting showed that the cat wept for partners and allies. Especially among those to whom we are helping neighbors and fraternally “salt with bread”, we forgive debts ... Just alone.
    1. konstantin68
      konstantin68 April 15 2018 09: 52
      0
      In today's world, the "allies" follow those who are richer! With all the consequences.
    2. Skarpzd
      Skarpzd April 15 2018 10: 17
      +1
      and what should show the vote ??? THREE COUNTRIES strike participants !!! the rest of the drum. they didn’t shoot at them, but those who are more smart - they cling to the strong.
  36. someoneV
    someoneV April 15 2018 09: 34
    +2
    Quote: Skarpzd
    Kazakhs have many reasons to trust the Russian Federation? or hope for the Russian Federation. the weak are drawn to the strong under the wing. hoping for protection in case of emergency. The Russian Federation has not yet defended anyone. even mine.

    It’s true that you wrote, the serf should know his master (United States). The Kazakhs also suffered from nationalism in Soviet times, which I saw personally, but now even more so. And to say that he is our ally is superfluous. Kazakhstan is our neighbor no more. No one has yet attacked the Russian Federation territorially, and your statement is false.
    1. Skarpzd
      Skarpzd April 15 2018 10: 21
      0
      I can not say. where it happened in Soviet times in Kazakhstan, there were almost no Kazakhs.
      and note, I personally have not said anywhere that Kazakhstan is our ally. Shelling of border areas with Ukraine were? was the dead? were the kidnapped border guards? what other attack do we have to wait?
  37. Mardvahe
    Mardvahe April 15 2018 09: 38
    +1
    Quote: Ivan Tucha
    Voting showed that the cat wept for partners and allies. Especially among those to whom we are helping neighbors and fraternally “salt with bread”, we forgive debts ... Just alone.

    Did they forgive the Kazakhs debts?
    1. Humpty
      Humpty April 15 2018 10: 01
      +3
      Quote: MardVahe
      Did they forgive the Kazakhs debts?

      Who gave the USSR debts for the Kazakhs? The same Vanya, who gave money for the Armenians and a number of other others. Milk was not enough for you during the USSR with double consumption compared to other republics. Drinking troubles now?
  38. Opera
    Opera April 15 2018 09: 38
    +1
    An epic victory of the most developed democracies of the West has happened! Using more than 100 cruise missiles, they were still able to injure three Syrians (we sincerely wish them a speedy recovery) on which ukrokiborgs are now watching with terrible envy! As for the Kazakhs ... Guys, I beg you, someone here was counting on the Kazakhs for something ?! They just really thought that the goal of a massive strike by cruise missiles in Syria was to inflict damage on three Syrians! Well, they did not correctly calculate the political situation of the moment. Kazakhs are excusable! The Armenians over there with the Azerbaijanis honestly told you yesterday that on all military-strategic issues they consult with Russian women ... And about the Latin alphabet, do you really criticize Kazakhs alright? I generally thought that they would switch to hieroglyphs!
    1. Humpty
      Humpty April 15 2018 11: 10
      +3
      Quote: Oper
      And about the Latin alphabet, you Kazakhs do not scold much okay? I generally thought that they would switch to hieroglyphs!

      Especially no one scolds, they say as is. The Kirghiz, for example, openly laugh at them - former Kirghiz, moving to the Paralatinian script. But in spite of the rustling, crowds of Kazakhstanis (from former Kyrgyz) have been jumping on sticks for six months in hysterical ecstasy of happiness around the Latin alphabet, in Kyrgyz online newspapers.
      1. Vard
        Vard April 15 2018 11: 35
        0
        Alas ... a nation that uses Russian words to express emotions ... never does it gain national identity ...
  39. askort154
    askort154 April 15 2018 09: 41
    +2
    You are right about Russia. But the United States is not a parasite. The USA "milks" the whole world, including the Russian Federation. It is now obvious that the entire Kremlin policy on the creation of allied states, unions, blocs and treaties failed.


    Young people You definitely did not live during the confrontation of two political systems - capitalist and communist. Each system pulled a world blanket over itself.
    There were two methods - carrot and stick. The USSR fed one part of the world, the USA - another. The UN included about 150 countries (now about 200). Voting in the UN Ensemble, divided into "lured" regardless of their "inside". Then the expression appeared - "Yes, he is a son of a bitch, but this is our son of a bitch." After the collapse of the USSR, those who previously "drank" from the trough of the USSR came to the trough of the USA. Unfortunately, Russia, so far, cannot return the "trough of the USSR". The economy has not yet pulled. Now we only have enough for the CSTO (and even that is not bold, because they twist their noses). Crimea is still not recognized, not to mention support in Syria. Fellow travelers one day. But we need them to cover the Central Asian underbelly of Russia. Against this background - even Switzerland condemned the blow to Syria (unexpected courage) for the lured and frightened West. Sorry, a lot of letters, but I hope that your generation will be more attentive to the history of Russia (USSR). yes hi
    1. Opera
      Opera April 15 2018 09: 55
      +2
      After reading your “multi-letter” you can make an unambiguous conclusion that you obviously do not like the USSR with your own trough! Lured allies are called mercenaries! England and France with shaking hands and feet are certainly strong support!)))))) Thank you! We have already done the same with the Warsaw Pact and with the Union Republics ... Such enemy allies are not necessary! And also feed them ?! Well, the Georgians, fed up and caressed by the Union, showed their strong friendship nowhere else! As soon as you want to caress someone again, remember Kazakhs, for example, Georgians right away!) I really wish the USA such allies, more and more!
      1. askort154
        askort154 April 15 2018 10: 24
        +2
        Oper ....After reading your “multi-letter” you can make an unambiguous conclusion that you obviously do not like the USSR with your own trough!

        Either you did not enlighten, or I poorly stated my thoughts. And from whose "trough" were fed: Cuba, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Romania, Mongolia, North Korea, Vietnam, Syria, Egypt ... half of Africa?! Therefore, all these countries have always voted in the UN for a resolution of the USSR.
        Now there are two such countries and miscalculated. Bolivia and Venezuela and a couple of two who regularly vote for the Russian Federation. But Kazakhstan is constantly abstaining. Now our Russian feeding trough (trough) does not attract them, because the American is more satisfying. What is still not clear here ???
        And and here - you obviously do not like the USSR ? Stupid conclusion. My whole life is connected with the USSR. I am happy that I was born and lived in the USSR! yes hi
        1. Opera
          Opera April 15 2018 12: 20
          +2
          Probably this I poorly outlined ...)) Bulgaria. Poland ... and the rest of Africa really fed at our expense! So they overstrained! USSR of course! Logically, this can only be explained by the building of communism through the world revolution! Do we need this ?! Well, and which of them are allies ... The situation was also approximately the same inside the USSR! Were we all equal? But for some reason the same Transcaucasia, the Baltic States ... much more even and richer in living standards of Russia and Belarus! All this was perceived in the Union republics, not even for granted, but as the fruits of their personal hard work and mind. They began to look down on Soviet Russians and Belarusians! But it was they who filled the trough, as you put it, and were not subsidized in relation to others! Is that not so? To be born and live in the USSR, to love your homeland does not mean not to see the shortcomings and root causes of the collapse of the country! I, too, was born and began my service in the USSR and God forbid if someone told me then that my country is not the best on earth!
          1. askort154
            askort154 April 15 2018 12: 45
            +2
            Opera ....Probably this I poorly outlined ...)) Bulgaria. Poland ... and the rest of Africa really fed at our expense! So they overstrained!

            Not so much overstrained as they changed their ideology.
            The Communists have become "thin", to say the least. They wanted to live (the top) as capitalists live. They began to use their "benefits", prohibiting commoners. The social divide in society has begun, which has been declared as equality in everything. The "party" spoke to us and called for one thing, but society no longer believed in it.
            Gorbach, the far-fetched populist who promised “everything, everything,” finally destroyed everything, and in the end, even more disappointed Soviet society, which led to the power of an even bigger populist Yeltsin. This led to a new, more radical, disappointment of society, and, as a result, the collapse of the country. So, so two "watered rogues" easily destroyed the Great Power of the 20th century. ( in a nutshell) yes hi
            1. Opera
              Opera April 15 2018 13: 10
              +2
              Of course. And so it was. Only now I think that the matter is not so much in these traitors! Their very appearance was a natural process. And not in the withdrawal of the top Communists from ideology, but in this very ideology, which denies many natural human needs. Private property for example. There is much to talk about. Including the Russian people who suddenly turned out to be the largest divided in the world.
  40. konstantin68
    konstantin68 April 15 2018 09: 50
    +2
    Quote: Donskoy
    But seriously, for some reason no one really tries to get in touch with the Chinese, because they know that you can eat away so that you can’t collect the bones later. But Russia is obsessed with everyone. So much for nuclear missiles

    Dear Chapai, what if I say that a real war has recently been waging between the United States and China, and with the Russian Federation there are simply local “butts”? This IMHO, will be a revelation for you?
    1. Dart
      Dart April 15 2018 10: 20
      +3
      Don’t pay attention, the Don’s are still “fighting” for the tsar, they’ve got stuck there. And they’re hardly remembering the “faith,” since they are atheists, and the “fatherland” has been worthless all their lives, the Don will isolate themselves from the rest, they think then chocolate will pour to them laughing
    2. vladimirvn
      vladimirvn April 15 2018 21: 59
      0
      It's time for the Chinese to start telling that in the event of the fall of Russia, China will be the next laughing
  41. Maceman
    Maceman April 15 2018 09: 57
    +2
    Quote: MIKHAN


    The territory is huge and they actually have no Army, so for a show off .. And any gang of devils well armed will pass through the territory of Kazakhstan to the border of the Russian Federation like a knife through butter ..

    Yeah, about one thousand and a half kilometers. in the desert ... As the Kazakhs say, yeah, how many survivors will reach?
    1. Humpty
      Humpty April 15 2018 10: 19
      +1
      Quote: Maceman
      Yeah, about one thousand and a half kilometers. in the desert ... As the Kazakhs say, yeah, how many survivors will reach?

      Who exactly will survive wink and to whom? You know, Yura, not everyone at the borders will be greeted with bread and salt as before. Someone will be met with a bread, and someone a filthy broom in the face. This is not about the Bormalei.
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  43. flicker
    flicker April 15 2018 10: 07
    +1
    "Abstinence" of Kazakhstan in the UN Security Council. This is a partnership ...
    This is pragmatism or political flexibility, or an elementary fear of the hegemon, or a desire to somehow delay a color revolution in Russia, since there is already money for it (as many as 22 billion).
    In general, the Republic of Kazakhstan exists as long as Russia exists. Without Russia, there will be no Kazakhstan. On the other hand, if the winds of change blow in Kazakhstan, then this will be a problem for Russia rather than for Kazakhstan. We now only need an unstable Kazakhstan at hand. For us now, the main thing is not to become an enemy.
  44. 1536
    1536 April 15 2018 10: 07
    0
    Kazakhstan Americans took for 22 billion dollars. Why be surprised?
  45. Alsur
    Alsur April 15 2018 10: 12
    +2
    Quote: Donskoy
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    The Russian president and government in the situation with Syria DEMONSTRATELY showed their weakness

    And on all our channels they show how Russia has once again shown strength request
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    There is nothing muddy in the Kazakhs. You just need to know the mentality of the people. Unlike the Russians, they, like all Turkic and Caucasian peoples, have no concept of truth, justice. They only have a concept of power and unconditional submission to it.

    What incredulous however winked Putin showed them cartoons, but they don’t want to believe request And yesterday they generally said that they shot down 71 cruise missiles with old Soviet air defense systems, and here, except for a small part of the Russians themselves, no one else believed. What to do, right trouble. Maybe it was necessary to say that all the missiles were shot down, maybe then they would understand how strong Russia is?
    But seriously, for some reason no one really tries to get in touch with the Chinese, because they know that you can eat away so that you can’t collect the bones later. But Russia is obsessed with everyone. So much for nuclear missiles laughing

    That is why the United States introduces import duties, and this is a crucial moment for China, the American market is dominant for China, and it also conducts exercises in the South China Sea, with all the Chinese antagonists, demonstratively conclude an agreement with Taiwan, which I recall, part of China. Yes, everything is right the way you wrote US pissing against China. But seriously, the United States would have long threatened China with military means, in all hearing, if not for Russia. Which, in addition to its military potential, still has a common border with China and isolating Russia during the military operations with China does not work out, it can always intervene in the conflict and certainly not on the US side. And this is understood clearly in the USA. Therefore, there is a provocative policy to shake the world around China and Russia.
    1. konstantin68
      konstantin68 April 15 2018 19: 37
      0
      Yes there is tight with analytics. No need to explain. They are not "readers", they are "writers". We drove the topic.
  46. mavrus
    mavrus April 15 2018 10: 13
    +2
    What do you want. Kazakhstan (or Kazakhem, whether it’s right there right now) will soon become cleaner than Skakuasii, if it has not already). Before the collapse of the USSR, more than 16 million Russians lived in 6,2 and a half million Kazakhstan, now 3,6 million. And if you take the Russians together with the Ukrainians (why I will write below with the Ukrainians), then there were 7,1 million, became 3,9 million). Although the total population has grown to ~ 18 million (by 2001 it had dropped to 14,8 million, but rapid growth has been observed in this century).
    At the same time, the number of Kazakhs increased from 6.5 million to 12 million.
    Almost all my numerous paternal relatives used to live in Kustanai region, many (like my father) were recorded by Ukrainians (grandfather and grandmother in the late 20s fell under “forced Ukrainization.” Yes, there was such a thing, in the Fedorovsky district, Kustanayskaya region ... all the "Slavic appearance" by order of the Kharkov regional committee (!!!) was recorded by Ukrainians, and Kazakhs at that time were not found in those places, there were Kyrgyz. Grandmother (and not only mine) until the death of all of them like that " and called Kirghiz, grandfather died in the 43rd, so I don’t know who he considered them to be. And today only old people (65 and older) remained in Kazakhstan as runaways, young people fled to Russia a long time ago: some to Chelyabinsk, some to Kaluga, some in the suburbs ... How Kazakh oppressed and survived which of them, this is a topic for a separate article.
  47. komandir8
    komandir8 April 15 2018 10: 16
    +2
    The CSTO treaty is needed only by our partners, so that in case of aggression against them, Russia comes to the rescue and fights, and these "allies" are not going to help us in anything and will not fight next to us. Moreover, the Yankees - the Kazakhs froze 22 billion of the National Fund, they quickly realized and understood who and what they were in this mortal world. If you conclude mutual assistance agreements, then on a bilateral basis it is not a fact that they will be respected depending on the world situation. Russia has only hope for itself, however, as always.
  48. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 April 15 2018 10: 17
    0
    As they say - it is better to have two enemies than one such friend.
  49. Alsur
    Alsur April 15 2018 10: 23
    +2
    Quote: konstantin68
    Of course have! And the first reason is the border with the Russian Federation. The second is all economic ties with / through the Russian Federation. Only the PRC is an alternative, but it is not so simple with logistics (again, the Russian Federation), they are foolish to even rely on "strong" amers for obvious reasons.
    I want to add that currently the mood in Kazakhstan is swinging very strongly according to the "Ukrainian" scenario. The Russians are already leaving, especially from the provinces. Nothing new, the same nationalism, bordering on Nazism and mantras about "come in large numbers" and "our exclusiveness." It remains to wish the Kazakh people wisdom and the right choice.

    In my opinion you are from 90, then most of them left, this time these are the units remaining in the southern regions that can leave this hour. It is clear that without knowing the language in general you won’t get to a position and even if you have one of the Kazakh parents and you know the language, but looks like a Slav or a Russian surname, there will be problems in the career. Unfortunately, one of the best aspects of socialism - internationalism, has not taken deep roots in the peoples of the former USSR, but among Russians it is in the blood. But maybe you need another spiral circle, so that we become a fist (broom), and not spread out fingers (twigs). And it is not necessary to be in one state, you can be with one mentality.
    1. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice April 15 2018 11: 39
      +2
      Most Kazakhs do not know Kazakh. Nevertheless, Russians were removed from the nomenclature. Clans and not professionalism are now in power. The result is industry ruined. Only the oil industry is developing.
  50. 23rus
    23rus April 15 2018 10: 30
    0
    What do you want? And if tomorrow the USA says “face” and in a distant aul they detonate a chemical bomb “non-pro-democracy fighters” can bomb them as well. So sho - it's better to be silent in a rag. hi
    1. Humpty
      Humpty April 15 2018 10: 41
      +2
      Quote: 23rus
      What do you want? And if tomorrow the USA says “face” and in a distant aul they detonate a chemical bomb “non-pro-democracy fighters” can bomb them as well. So sho - it's better to be silent in a rag. hi

      Why so rude . When in the millionaire city there is a Pentagon tank laboratory with 4 floors up. Carcases or rams can take a break from a disease found only in the southern hemisphere.