Twenty-five again! In the US, not enough military pilots

The shortage of pilots in the US Armed Forces has reached an alarming scale, reports the specialized Military Times publication, citing data from the US General Control Department report, the shortage of pilots in the Air Force, Navy and US Marine Corps has reached 25%.

According to the newspaper, the problem has worsened in recent years and it will take a lot of time and money to solve. It takes up to five years to train one high-class pilot and 11 million dollars. Taking into account such costs, the Air Force is faced with the need to develop additional incentives that would keep pilots in the aircraft after the expiration of the contracts concluded by them.

For the past two years, the Air Force has been alarmed by the lack of pilots. There was created a special team led by a one-star general, who was tasked with developing measures to curb personnel diversion. These measures include a significant increase in bonuses in the event of a contract extension, a reduction in paperwork and other non-flying duties that prevent pilots from doing their direct business, as well as other steps to retain pilots in military service

- writes the edition

Recall that in November, 2017, Air Force Magazine, citing US Air Force Minister Heather Wilson, reported that the US Air Force lacks nearly 2 thousand pilots.

Comments

[nikoliski]

Planes are the largest in the world, of course, there are not enough pilots (even considering the fact that the US Air Force pilot receives $ 20 a month and has the most flight on NATO)

[Hoc vince]

A quarter of American aircraft will be left without pilots in case of war... (Military Times)

[Yrec]

Few! You give 100% shortage!

[MadCat]

Quote: Hoc vince

A quarter of American aircraft will be left without pilots in case of war... (Military Times)

in case of war there will be mobilization, they have it written in the contracts during write-offs. The lack of pilots due to the leakage of personnel to a civilian, and not because they decided to fly to Mars.
In Russia, things are no better with this, as civilians leave to work for the Chinese and the military are also demobilized.

[Orionvit]

Maybe I don’t understand something, but with such a military budget, they can’t prepare enough pilots? Yes, they should roll them into banks in reserve, and not cry for a shortage. Or in another version, generals with congressmen are sawing the budget so much that they no longer have pilots left. Well, good.

[user1212]

Quote: Orionvit

Maybe I don’t understand something, but with such a military budget, they can’t prepare enough pilots?

Pilot cannot be cut, unlike R&D budget

[NEXUS]

Quote: Hoc vince

A quarter of American aircraft will be left without pilots in case of war... (Military Times)

In the event of war, a quarter is easy to turn into half ... at the same time, to teach a fighter pilot in three months, as during the Second World War it will not work.

[Borik]

If you read such statements, then 2000 aircraft will not be able to fly into the sky.
Or is it still a shortage of pilots for shift crews

[ZVO]

Quote: Borik

Or is it still a shortage of pilots for shift crews

exactly. they increased the number of shift crews.

[NEXUS]

Quote: ZVO

exactly. they increased the number of shift crews.

The technique is becoming more complicated, training pilots for it longer.
In addition, if we are talking about the Marine Corps and the Navy, then there are two modifications, the F-35V and F-35S, that is, the first with the possibility of vertical landing and shortened take-off, and the second generally for aircraft carriers. And especially for the F-35S, I doubt very much that in 5 years you can learn a good deck flyer.

[NN52]

NEXUS

Are you here, special in the training of pilots of deck aviation? Not tired of being a pseudo specialist?
You are talking nonsense ... What are 5 years old?

[NEXUS]

Quote: NN52

You are talking nonsense ... What are 5 years old?

For those whose barzometer has no limitations .. Have you learned the alphabet at school? Do you know the letters?
Read the article, and do not bend your fingers here.

It takes up to five years to train one high-class pilot and 11 million dollars.

I explained to you in PM who you are ... calm down. You, however, like your senile ambition, are not at all interesting.
The conversation is over.

[NN52]

NEXUS

Oh how !?
You finally decided to speak out on the forum, and not quietly be rude and come out of bile in a PM? Commendable ... So not completely lost to society ...
I taught the ABC, unlike you, not in Popular Mechanics ... I know the letters of the alphabet, and I can even put them together in the correct form for you ..

And for those on an armored train and wearing glasses ...
You didn’t read the article, but you bend your fingers - 5 years and 11 cartoons, this is the preparation of the pilot (our cadet), before being sent to the army .... And then everything is easier for them with preparation, from a year to two ...

And the conversation is not over with you ..
Inadequate and I do not respect Wikipedians ///

[NEXUS]

Quote: NN52

You finally decided to speak out on the forum, and not quietly be rude and come out of bile in a PM?

Who would talk about rudeness in PM and bile ...

Quote: NN52

He taught the ABC, unlike you, not in Popular Mechanics ...

Yes, I see that you drank it, not taught. Well, the adequacy for ambition was exchanged for cheap.

Quote: NN52

You didn’t read the article,

Seriously? Fingers case 90 degrees still not wrapped?

Quote: NN52

5 years and 11 cartoons, this is the training of the pilot (our cadet), before being released into the army ..

Hear, who knows the alphabet ... we read it clearly, and not through a faceted glass with pale vodara ..

To train one high-class pilot takes up to five years and 11 million dollars

Is a cadet a high-class pilot?
Everything is extremely clear with you and the ability to read thoughtfully, well ... well, in general, I don’t see any reason to repeat myself.

Quote: NN52

Inadequate and Wikipedians do not respect

Buy an envelope, put these words in it, and send it to someone who cares.

Quote: NN52

And the conversation is not over with you ..

I don’t give a damn about your bile. Although all go out on it and erase the teeth to the gums.

[NN52]

NEXUS

Well, about rudeness and bile on the forum and in PM you have already been punished more than once ... Apparently not enough ...
Now you have turned to accusations about a faceted glass and alcohol, apparently judging by yourself, it happens ...
And again, for those who are on an armored train, it’s exactly five years and 11 cartoons, and they have a high-class pilot with their own specialization ... And a deck, including a cadet that flies already on training avik ...

And do not choke on bile, Popmek ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: NN52

You are talking nonsense ... What are 5 years old?

Quote: NN52

just five years and 11 cartoons, and they have a high-class pilot with their own specialization ...

Well, hijacker?
Everything with you is very clear. More on your cheap lunges, there will be no reaction.
Everything else, I told you in PM. Well, it’s disgusting for me to communicate with such people, excuse me as a sinner.

[NN52]

NEXUS

Do you drink and don’t remember what you wrote yourself? Some kind of kindergarten ...

I remind you ...

And especially for the F-35S, I doubt very much that in 5 years you can learn a good deck flyer.

It is useless to pull out individual words from the context and write comments on them ..

Sinful..

I’m unlikely to forgive ..

[Pete mitchell]

It’s wildly interesting for me: you who to dispute the opinion of Polst II on aviation? In real aviation, respect experience and training, who are you? What is your experience? Two, five, seven, how much? The copy paste experience is not quoted, I repeat - who are you at all? Maybe it would be more decent not to enter into discussions on topics whose knowledge you copy paste from Murzilka / wikipedia? No need to spoil the air with the excrements of your brain, this is not interesting. Have you ever seen a living NATO pilot?

[vkl.47]

One-Star General))) "Comrade One-Star General! Let me turn?"))

[rocket757]

C'mon, their planes are smarter than smart and finally, are they going to do drones "soon" ???
They put \ put the operator on the sofa, let the chips go there and Coke lap !!!
Bullshit question! There are "smart" missiles, will there be "smart" planes ???

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: vkl.47

Single star

Brigadier General, since you call him "comrade", please be kind and refer to the charter: Comrade, brigade commander.)))

[just exp]

and where is the figure of 20 thousand? as I read that the amount, although it was considerable, was less than a dozen.
therefore, they left for GA.

[Grandfather]

Twenty-five again! In the US, not enough military pilots

I can offer a garden neighbor .. (inexpensively) the truth is 78 years old, but experience ... (says transport) and a rare bastard ... I’ll at least rest ... (if cho, I’m ready to pay a little extra ...)

[nikoliski]

On ren-tv, they somehow showed a program about US aviation, and so if you believe the channel (for which I bought it and sell it for that), then the fighter pilot’s salary is $ 20 per month

[nikoliski]

They have a regular sergeant in the army receives (with all the allowances) up to $ 6000 per month (it’s necessary to somehow lure the army) and you think that a highly skilled pilot can’t get twenty?

[Vadivak]

Quote: .......

US Air Force lacks nearly 2 thousand pilots.

Quote from 2014

Over the past two years, about 1363 pilots left the US Air Force.

According to some reports, this is due to the fears of the Americans before the tough behavior in the air of Russian pilots, going to risky interceptions.

[voyaka uh]

20,000 - this is you bent, and much.
For such an amount, they would not only not have a shortage,
and there would be a line of candidates. But the air force is so much
cannot pay.
In reality, lieutenants receive 3-4 thousand a month, captains major 4-5 thousand.
Plus bonuses, markups, minus taxes - so much on hand will come out.

[nikoliski]

In the United States, huge salaries — for us, maybe twenty bucks may seem somewhat transcendental, for them it is the salary of an average lawyer in a large company, and do you really think that pilots who fly over Syria and Iraq receive less? Yes, for less money, you wouldn’t even have to force anyone to go to flight college in the USA (salary is one thing, the so-called combat is another thing, by the way, when Serdyukov is an interesting fact, our rescue divers from one special squad received up to 500 rubles a month, officially even more than the generals then covered the “shop”, explaining it as corruption in the Moscow Region)

[voyaka uh]

"do you think that pilots who fly over Syria and Iraq get less?"

I didn’t "answer from the ceiling" to you, but by looking at the salary table for pilots in the US Air Force.
dividing the annual by 12 months, and simplifying a little.
Pay extra for missions, of course. But not crazy amounts.
http://work.chron.com/much-fighter-pilots-make-26
85.html

Salaries per year:
2nd Lieutenant, O1: $ 37,292- $ 46,922
◾1st Lieutenant, O2: $ 48,935- $ 59,461
◾Captain, O3: $ 56,365- $ 80,899
◾Major, O4: $ 65,466- $ 94,432
◾Lieutenant Colonel, O5: $ 73,843- $ 111,362
◾Colonel, O6: $ 86,382- $ 139,198
◾Brigadier General, O7: $ 108,500- $ 154,915
◾Major General, O8: $ 128,873- $ 179,892
◾Lieutenant General, O9: $ 176,357- $ 189,601
◾General, O10: $ 189,601

[Commander]

Can you prove your claims? In my opinion, write nonsense - $ 20 a month - this is $ 000 a year, a very large salary. Not every pilot is an officer — helicopter pilots are often warrant officers, but he correctly wrote about the salary of a soldier, an experienced pilot, captain major receives no more than 240 bucks a year.

[Vadivak]

Quote: voyaka uh

20,000 - this is you bent, and much.

In the US Air Force, an E-1 private soldier earns $ 18 a year, E-802 - a flight crew member - earns $ 2 and an E-21 - first-class pilot - earns between $ 078 and $ 3, depending from seniority.
In the Air Force, captains receive between $ 47 and $ 563. O-77 - Major - earns between $ 378 and $ 4.
http://www.forumdaily.com/skolko-v-ssha-platyat-v
oennym /

[user1212]

Quote: Vadivak

In the U.S. Air Force, an E-1 Private earnes $ 18 a year.

in year

[Cat]

The real size of the "combat" is classified information, they are definitely not on the Internet.

[Des10]

Quote: voyaka uh

In reality, lieutenants receive 3-4 thousand a month, captains major 4-5 thousand.

"abalit", so - everyone here - they, the pilots of the US Air Force - are normal and even super - provided.
And ours is --- not in the know.

[aszzz888]

with reference to the US Air Force Secretary, Heather Wilson said that the US Air Force lacks almost 2 thousand pilots

And ukrokakly nothing help? After all, they can work in the fields in the geyrop, cleaning public toilets ... Suddenly they can at fi-35?

[tractor driver73]

In Russia, a similar situation! And most importantly, in Russia there is an acute shortage of training aircraft! Yak-130 is unsuitable, as shit, not a plane! L-39 is catastrophically small! And just one school! Shoigu in aviation is dumb, no better and the new commander of the VKS from the former "boots"!

[nikoliski]

Today, in our Voronezh region, yak130 crashed (fortunately, both pilots survived), I’m looking in the mail in general about this gu-gu, only local news reported

[72jora72]

Yak-130 is unsuitable, as shit, not a plane! L-39 is catastrophically small! And just one school! Shoigu in aviation is dumb, no better and the new commander of the VKS from the former "boots"!

Judging by your message, you are the same specialist in military aviation as Shoigu.

[tractor driver73]

Probably in 43 years he learned something in aviation!

[screw cutter]

And this shortage in PEACE time, and how many pilots will throw their horses when they smell fried? The contract is certainly important, but why do I need money if I die? This is a Western way of thinking and way of life, they are not bound by moral standards and other oaths. "Nothing personal . Only business. "

[voyaka uh]

In the military, on the contrary, everyone who fled to the civilian
aviation will return and push each other:
"take me!"
Military pilots of all countries are the same - they are eager for battle, fanatics of their profession.

[Vard]

It is unlikely that the GA pilot will be as good as a fighter ... unless on a ram ...

[voyaka uh]

I wrote: "those who fled to the GA [from the military]"

[screw cutter]

It’s easy in American cinema from a fighter to a corncracker and vice versa. It’s much more difficult in life. You need to get used to overloads for a long time, quickly get used to it, and in a fighter you still have to turn your head 360 degrees.

[k174oun7]

Last year, during an aviation holiday, he spoke with a young captain, commander of the Su-34. They fly a lot, according to the plan of combat training, but pay according to him is not enough. There is some kind of ridiculous division. So the commander of the An-30, an ancient photo reconnaissance officer, is the commander of an aircraft, and accordingly he is paid more. But the Su-34, as it turned out, is not considered an aircraft with the appropriate payment. He is looking for a place in the GA. It is curious that GA pilots, in turn, are eyeing and moving China. Overflowing frames. Modern youth is not enough to fly. They want to receive decent work for hard and dangerous work.

[NN52]

k174oun7
A bit wrong .... For example, on Mig 31, the position is called the ship’s commander and is paid two nets higher in salary than for example for the Su 35 pilot ... And the whole difference, believe me, is not big ... Because 31 were written down by weight to the ships ...

[Cat]

And the pilot of the Su-25, who, by definition, ass on anti-aircraft guns should ride?

[NN52]

Sergei

I didn’t invent it ... Everything was invented before me ..
And VLK for supersonic is much stricter than for Su 25 ...
And I really respect the guys with Su 25, fearless guys ... A lot of things were told ...

[NF68]

Again GDP is to blame?

[Serge]

Spawn transgenders, now they look for pilots in their faces

[Slovak]

Let them take Ukrainian guest workers. $ 500 a month and at least sit on it.

[Cat]

They are not here. From the word "general"

[Slovak]

Quote: Gato

They are not here. From the word "general"

Even Savchenko is a "helicopter pilot", Petya was photographed in the cockpit of a combat aircraft! Well, if that was called a pilot, then Turchinov and Parubiy would be aces.

[Cat]

Turchinov with Parubiy will pass for ... well, the word ends with "aces" And Poroshenko, probably, has three and a half pilots - someone needs to cover his plane when he will get rid of grateful people

[Vlad5307]

So it's time to shrink, there is nothing to nightmare the world!

[Cat]

The whole thing goes to unmanned aircraft. At least military aviation.

[MKPU-115]

It's time to shoot the next movie "Top Gun-2" or 3 in Hollywood, starring Tom Cruise. Then, in 1986, he felled packs of MIG 29, now, probably, he will destroy the SU-57 in the hundreds of Syria

[Cat]

Quote: NN52

I respect guys with Su 25 very much

I fully join!