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Kiev refuted the agreement on the return of Russian sailors to the Crimea

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The message that Kiev guaranteed the return of the crew of the Russian fishing vessel "Nord" to the Crimea is not true, reports RIA News Statement by the Permanent Representative of the Ukrainian President in the Region Boris Babin.




The information spread today in the media about the allegedly existing agreement between Russia and the Ukrainian authorities on the organized passage of Ukrainian citizens - members of the crew of the detained fishing vessel 'Nord' 'through KPVV on the administrative border with the Crimea without proper identity documents is a fake,
Wrote Babin on Facebook.

He noted that the Crimean authorities "through lawyers and diplomats try to urgently transfer such legal documents (passports of citizens of Ukraine) from the Crimea to the crew members."

Because of course they have houses (Ukrainian passports) of course, and with them they will be allowed into Crimea through CPVV without problems. And according to the ус ausvays' issued by the Russian authorities, no one will miss anyone in the Crimea, we have a clear position of the border guards of Ukraine,
added Babin.

Earlier, a representative of the shipowner reported that the Ukrainian side guaranteed 9-ti “Nord” seamen travel to the Crimea through the checkpoint “Chongar”. Recall fishing vessel belonging to the Kerch fish farm, was detained by Ukrainian border guards in the Sea of ​​Azov last week. The crew is accused of “Violating the procedure for entering and leaving the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine”. Criminal proceedings were instituted against the captain, administrative fines were imposed on the rest of the crew.
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 8 2018 17: 34
    +9
    These yellow-blakitnye jump up and to the special operation to free our citizens, and to completely block the Kerch Strait for dill ships ... They already seriously believed their media that their powerful army is restrained solely from philanthropy, so as not to "take Moscow ..."
    1. 210ox
      210ox April 8 2018 17: 41
      +19
      Eugene, I respect you for your ardor .. But let’s admit, we were put in the position of “suffered” .. What is the “special operation”? It has shown events in Ukraine over the past few years ..
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      These yellow-blakitnye jump up and to the special operation to free our citizens, and to completely block the Kerch Strait for dill ships ... They already seriously believed their media that their powerful army is restrained solely from philanthropy, so as not to "take Moscow ..."
      1. forester
        forester April 8 2018 18: 20
        +5
        Yes, no special operation is needed there - it’s enough to go to Kadyrov to follow them. There is still a memory of how he traveled to Kiev for journalists - the banderlogs were afraid to keep quiet even in the Donbass, then they calmed down
        1. 210ox
          210ox April 8 2018 20: 48
          +1
          He went there a little different time. And now they are insolent, and Kadyrov does not say anything about this. Perhaps there is no interest in fishing?
          Quote: forester
          Yes, no special operation is needed there - it’s enough to go to Kadyrov to follow them. There is still a memory of how he traveled to Kiev for journalists - the banderlogs were afraid to keep quiet even in the Donbass, then they calmed down
        2. Antares
          Antares April 8 2018 20: 53
          0
          Quote: forester
          enough Kadyrov to go after them

          Kadyrov in Kiev was the last time like in 2010. In 2014 there was only his personal plane and namesake negotiator (Ramzan)
          The negotiation process began on the 20th and 21st of the day, they announced to us that they would give an answer in 3-4 days - are they ready to give us the guys or not, ”said Ramzan Kadyrov. - We sent our representative to Ukraine, his name is also Ramzan. We were voiced in a narrow circle that there was a fundamental decision on the transfer of our journalists - and we began to actively negotiate.

          Under pressure from the UN and the OSCE, the SBU agreed to an exchange. Kadyrov trumpeted his victory throughout the Russian Federation. It happens. Extra PR.
          the banderlogs were afraid to stay awake even in the Donbass, then they calmed down

          May 2014, the environment of Slavyansk? And after the rapid offensive and 2/3 of the areas returned to control.
          There were still elections ...
        3. Grim Reaper
          Grim Reaper April 8 2018 21: 14
          +1
          Quote: forester
          Yes, no special operation is needed there - it’s enough to go to Kadyrov to follow them. There is still a memory of how he traveled to Kiev for journalists - the banderlogs were afraid to keep quiet even in the Donbass, then they calmed down

          Do not take Kadyrov as a panacea.
          Funny.
          Threaten your older brother.
      2. Vladimir 5
        Vladimir 5 April 8 2018 23: 28
        +1
        Today, the Russian Federation does not need international aggravation, because the response to the Nord vessel should be economic. For example, carry out work to deepen the shipping canal, and then levy a throughput fee (justified expensive work, the canal in the zone of the Russian Federation). If there is no payment, the vessels are delayed, let them complain about the estimates of the work done ...
        1. helmi8
          helmi8 April 9 2018 00: 03
          0
          Quote: Vladimir 5
          Today, the Russian Federation does not need international aggravation, because the response to the Nord vessel should be economic.

          While this is the best option. Bye ... And after reading this
          And according to the "outweisers" issued by the Russian authorities, nobody will let anyone pass into the Crimea, we have a clear position of the Ukrainian border service,
          added Babin

          I want to introduce a visa regime for Ukrainians right from tomorrow. Let them bathe there. Tired of already hearing that we are "brotherly people." There are enough of their problems - the "brothers" also throw their shovels ...
    2. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don April 8 2018 17: 47
      +15
      Take full control of the Sea of ​​Azov, so that not a single pelvis with bloomers from the pier could sail away, delay and inspect everything that moves in the Black Sea towards dill, detain the commander of the border boat 404 and solder 25 years of piracy with a public court, to begin with I think there will be enough retaliatory measures.
    3. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii April 8 2018 17: 48
      +13
      Frightened, that's flaunting. And he who was frightened remained in the cauldrons, but on crutches he went to the citizen. hi
      1. 210ox
        210ox April 8 2018 17: 56
        +3
        That's it .. Vitaliy hi We allow them too much ... And they say the right words from the high stands .. But this is only for our ears.
        Quote: ul_vitalii
        Frightened, that's flaunting. And he who was frightened remained in the cauldrons, but on crutches he went to the citizen. hi
        1. ul_vitalii
          ul_vitalii April 8 2018 18: 00
          +5
          Dima, welcome hi drinks I totally agree.
        2. Lelek
          Lelek April 8 2018 19: 10
          +4
          Quote: 210ox
          We allow them too much.

          hi , Dmitry.
          With all that we perfectly understand that the Kiev junta is a non-contractual entity, that for all international incidents it is necessary to talk with the puppeteer, and not with the puppet. What drives Kiev’s actions in those outrages and ordeals in relation to Russia? Purely selfish interest - to squeeze, steal, sue by hook or by crook a freebie for yourself beloved. And then Russia decided to punish with a ruble a thief and a thief by burying a freebie, hence the Khokhlyatsk op for the whole world: "Save! Help! Hooligans deprive the pipe !!!" Yes, there’s still a lot of people raising their own in connection with the close elections. Again op to the "Europe". But the last tumor under the nickname "former Ukraine" got sick of the hell and more and more voices: "Farewell, Ruin. Get out yourself.".
          1. 210ox
            210ox April 8 2018 19: 36
            +6
            No, Leo, the pipe has not yet been buried. And what's more, we’ll have to keep it with much smaller volumes of pumped gas .. And yet. You don’t have to divide the skin of the bear that has not yet been killed. That's when the bypass pipelines will work, then we'll see. while Gazprom is accumulating funds to pay a multibillion-dollar fine .. Is it not at our expense?
            Quote: Lelek
            Quote: 210ox
            We allow them too much.

            hi , Dmitry.
            With all that we perfectly understand that the Kiev junta is a non-contractual entity, that for all international incidents it is necessary to talk with the puppeteer, and not with the puppet. What drives Kiev’s actions in those outrages and ordeals in relation to Russia? Purely selfish interest - to squeeze, steal, sue by hook or by crook a freebie for yourself beloved. And then Russia decided to punish with a ruble a thief and a thief by burying a freebie, hence the Khokhlyatsk op for the whole world: "Save! Help! Hooligans deprive the pipe !!!" Yes, there’s still a lot of people raising their own in connection with the close elections. Again op to the "Europe". But the last tumor under the nickname "former Ukraine" got sick of the hell and more and more voices: "Farewell, Ruin. Get out yourself.".
            1. Lelek
              Lelek April 8 2018 19: 44
              +3
              Quote: 210ox
              . We still have to contain it with much smaller volumes of pumped gas ..


              This is so, but only in terms of the pipeline in our territory. And what prevents the announcement of the emergency state of the hydraulic system of the former Ukraine? And in 2019, the term of the contract for deliveries through it ends, so a new contract will be needed, according to which the calculations for gas delivered to “Europe” will be taken into account at the border of the Russian Federation and the former Ukraine. Will the EU take over the restoration and bringing to mind the GTS Ruins? I doubt wildly, the burghers are not used to littering money.
              1. 210ox
                210ox April 8 2018 20: 12
                +2
                Gas must be pumped into a gas pipeline on the territory of Ukraine, more precisely, in buffer tanks to maintain pressure .. But these volumes are also not small .. The case is not in the pipes on our territory. These losses will also increase the transit fee.
                Quote: Lelek
                Quote: 210ox
                . We still have to contain it with much smaller volumes of pumped gas ..


                This is so, but only in terms of the pipeline in our territory. And what prevents the announcement of the emergency state of the hydraulic system of the former Ukraine? And in 2019, the term of the contract for deliveries through it ends, so a new contract will be needed, according to which the calculations for gas delivered to “Europe” will be taken into account at the border of the Russian Federation and the former Ukraine. Will the EU take over the restoration and bringing to mind the GTS Ruins? I doubt wildly, the burghers are not used to littering money.
            2. 72jora72
              72jora72 April 9 2018 03: 15
              0
              We still have to contain it with much smaller volumes of pumped gas
              Her (pipe), we do not contain, do not inspect, and do not repair, this is for you information.
              1. 210ox
                210ox April 9 2018 05: 07
                +1
                And the transit fee?! This is for you information ...
                Quote: 72jora72
                We still have to contain it with much smaller volumes of pumped gas
                Her (pipe), we do not contain, do not inspect, and do not repair, this is for you information.
      2. lis-ik
        lis-ik April 8 2018 19: 44
        +3
        Quote: ul_vitalii
        Frightened, that's flaunting. And he who was frightened remained in the cauldrons, but on crutches he went to the citizen. hi

        The whole horror of the situation is that the guard told me, "Or maybe we really are wrong in taking Crimea?" and this is a senior citizen! That's what the indecision of the authorities does !!!
        1. 210ox
          210ox April 8 2018 20: 14
          +1
          I heard similar things in 2014 from a completely adequate person, a good organizer and specialist.
          Quote: lis-ik
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          Frightened, that's flaunting. And he who was frightened remained in the cauldrons, but on crutches he went to the citizen. hi

          The whole horror of the situation is that the guard told me, "Or maybe we really are wrong in taking Crimea?" and this is a senior citizen! That's what the indecision of the authorities does !!!

          Quote: lis-ik
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          Frightened, that's flaunting. And he who was frightened remained in the cauldrons, but on crutches he went to the citizen. hi

          The whole horror of the situation is that the guard told me, "Or maybe we really are wrong in taking Crimea?" and this is a senior citizen! That's what the indecision of the authorities does !!!
        2. alexmach
          alexmach April 8 2018 21: 15
          +1
          And this actually was a very serious step with very far-reaching consequences. In 2014, few people thought about it. Everyone had euphoria. Now the whole seriousness of the situation has begun to reach everyone.
    4. aba
      aba April 8 2018 17: 53
      +3
      Before the special operation, this is unlikely, but the fact that these Ukrainians are already naturally gored ( am ) and just dead and there remains only one question: "How long?"
      But it’s interesting what these Bandera henchmen must do to get unequivocal answers from Russia.
      1. 210ox
        210ox April 8 2018 18: 00
        +7
        Abay hi What should they do? Well, probably what they threaten to get to Moscow ... And the fact that Russian citizens were pirated, or in Odessa, people were burned .. It's nothing, it's statistics .. In the Kremlin, they don’t want war. The shame is easier. . But it will be like that and that ..
        Quote: aba
        Before the special operation, this is unlikely, but the fact that these Ukrainians have naturally naturally butted to death and there remains only one question, “How long?”
        But it’s interesting what these Bandera henchmen must do to get unequivocal answers from Russia.
      2. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Aristarkh Lyudvigovich April 8 2018 18: 02
        +11
        Quote: aba
        there is only one question, “How long?”

        They behave exactly as we allow them. As a matter of fact, Ukrainians declared all Crimean residents who had accepted Russian citizenship as “criminals” and have now begun the Crimean hunting season, blatantly mocking at the “so-called Russian passports”.
    5. tol100v
      tol100v April 8 2018 18: 09
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      so as not to "take Moscow" ...

      Popandopulo once said that, the old man has a gold reserve dumb! But at a time, he and the tyama are not ma! With difficulty, but tried to voice!
      1. 210ox
        210ox April 8 2018 18: 14
        +3
        Igor hi I don’t agree. On the path of Russophobia there will always be a "gold reserve" .. And if not, they usually throw it up. Didn’t you notice how we have reduced the wangs about the imminent end of the ruin?
        Quote: Tol100v
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        so as not to "take Moscow" ...

        Popandopulo once said that, the old man has a gold reserve dumb! But at a time, he and the tyama are not ma! With difficulty, but tried to voice!
  2. Papandreou
    Papandreou April 8 2018 17: 35
    +12
    It turns out that Ukrainian citizens were detained by the Ukrainian side for entering the port of Ukraine without permission from the Ukrainian side?
    1. san4es
      san4es April 8 2018 17: 48
      +6
      “When a crest was born, a Jew hanged himself” is a Ukrainian proverb.
    2. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii April 8 2018 17: 52
      +9
      They themselves do not know what they want and wait only for instructions, as their flyers said: America is with us. And they do it with her. Shameful.
      1. tol100v
        tol100v April 8 2018 18: 20
        +1
        Quote: ul_vitalii
        They themselves do not know what they want and wait only for instructions

        Yes, and the remains In what hole still get! Transport, energy, railway, ports and much more prosra ..... and, and the remnants are just around the corner! And there are no mountains left. Karpaty and Porosenko? Nonsense!
    3. Kars
      Kars April 8 2018 17: 58
      +3
      You missed, went to the occupied port.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina April 8 2018 18: 38
        +5
        Kars, did you want to say something privately?
        1. 210ox
          210ox April 8 2018 20: 53
          +4
          Vyacheslav hi He attributed the comment to Popandopulo. Actually, that’s true. Berdyansk is a Russian port temporarily occupied by losses ..
          Quote: sabakina
          Kars, did you want to say something privately?
          1. sabakina
            sabakina April 8 2018 21: 01
            +4
            Dim hi , thanks, otherwise I already wanted to throw a grenade! laughing
            1. novel66
              novel66 April 8 2018 21: 40
              +3
              carefully insert the check into place. not time yet!
              1. sabakina
                sabakina April 8 2018 21: 44
                +3
                Romka, but I didn’t take it out .... I have a cat on my lap that controls everything. wink
                1. novel66
                  novel66 April 8 2018 21: 45
                  +1
                  we hope in him alone! lol
    4. Antares
      Antares April 8 2018 21: 02
      0
      Quote: Papandreou
      It turns out that Ukrainian citizens were detained by the Ukrainian side for entering the port of Ukraine without permission from the Ukrainian side?

      amendment - left the closed port (Crimean ports are closed by Ukraine)
      And yes. If you believe the court, then Ukrainian citizens (forgetting Ukrainian passports at home laughing ) left a closed port on a Crimean ship with invalid Russian documents and fished for themselves in the Ukrainian zone. The latter is permissible for Ukrainians.
      And with the port just a violation. It is such a pleasure just 3 thousand UAH (6 thousand rubles)
      1. sabakina
        sabakina April 8 2018 21: 27
        +3
        Antares, please be kind, tell us why they took them all the same? Well, this is how to go to the toilet, asking permission from the headman ....
        1. novel66
          novel66 April 8 2018 21: 41
          +1
          Nooooo! asking permission from the outhouse!
  3. razved
    razved April 8 2018 17: 35
    +5
    It is difficult to comment and have any business with absolutely inadequate creatures ... especially when they make opposing statements, and their actions are generally not subject to any logic ...
  4. Cutter
    Cutter April 8 2018 17: 37
    +14
    And according to the issued by the Russian authorities "Ausweis"

    Of course, I’m not a Russian diplomat, and it’s not for me to decide, but I don’t have enough anger - at 24 o’clock send all hohlogastarbeiters with their hohloausvaysy to their homeland, and let them arrange another maidan ... am
    1. cniza
      cniza April 8 2018 17: 47
      +5
      Alexander hi , they achieve this, or rather the United States, we don’t know too much, but this mess is tired.
      1. Cutter
        Cutter April 8 2018 18: 09
        +6
        Quote: cniza
        Alexander hi , they achieve this, or rather the United States, we don’t know too much, but this mess is tired.

        Victor, I greet you and happy holiday! hi In these dill, impunity passes into permissiveness. I understand that they act by order of Washington, without their brains, I understand that your leadership is self-reliant and patient men, in intelligence and diplomacy, and have not encountered such, but how much can ??? Once again: I am not a diplomat, but to block the Sea of ​​Azov, and all the debt !!! Peter the Great conquered him for Russia, and not for the impudent, impregnated Jewish Nazi with an ukro-Sumerian gang! am
      2. sabakina
        sabakina April 8 2018 18: 42
        +4
        Quote: cniza
        Alexander hi , they achieve this, or rather the United States, we don’t know too much, but this mess is tired.

        Vitya, hi , I do not understand you. What do they achieve? Expulsion of Gaster? This is not punishable. Power operation .... Power operation was relevant in the first three days. Further only diplomacy is their mother.
    2. Lelek
      Lelek April 8 2018 19: 26
      +3
      Quote: Cutter
      there isn’t enough anger - at 24 hours to send all hohlogastarbeiters with their hohloausvaysy to their homeland, and let them arrange another Maidan there.

      hi , Alexander.
      Nu-nu, and what “Makar” you propose to do this. In the Leningrad region there are about 300000 Gaster from the Ruins. Most are licensed, some have accepted Russian citizenship and many illegal immigrants in towns and gardening. Guys work, earn a living for themselves and their relatives. Most curse Kiev and Bandera. You propose to declare them "non-grata", to catch, how then and at the expense of the budget to transport in orderly rows to Ruin-nenka and get another 300000 cursing us?
      1. Cutter
        Cutter April 8 2018 19: 37
        +6
        Lev hi , I may be wrong and wrote a comment in a rash way, but the impudence with which the Ukrainian authorities act is already going through the roof ... You know better in Russia, I wouldn’t touch those who received citizenship, let the rest put things in order at home themselves and don’t have to wander around for work! I emphasize is my opinion, thoughts ... request
        1. Lelek
          Lelek April 9 2018 00: 00
          +2
          Quote: Cutter
          I may not be right and wrote comments


          C'mon, I understand everything. He’s biting anger at yesterday’s “brothers”. Even yesterday’s classmates at the school there zig and fire us Muscovites in black.
      2. sabakina
        sabakina April 8 2018 21: 04
        +4
        Leo, we’ll leave “someone”. The rest are on the way out.
        1. Lelek
          Lelek April 8 2018 23: 55
          +2
          Quote: sabakina
          The rest are on the way out.

          hi , Vyacheslav.
          No, I'm not in business. No.
  5. next322
    next322 April 8 2018 17: 38
    +4
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    These yellow-blakitnye jump up to the special operation to free our citizens, and to completely block the Kerch Strait for dill ships

    are you so naive laughing what is the special operation? how much time has passed?
    1. lance
      lance April 8 2018 18: 06
      0
      a young man special trials and held after a considerable time, when the stubborn chipmunks do not recognize anything other than a fist
      1. sabakina
        sabakina April 8 2018 18: 47
        +7
        Vyonosha, special operations after a considerable time are carried out against the countries of the third world. In this case, it was necessary to act within 72 hours. Everything else is perishable.
        1. lance
          lance April 8 2018 19: 35
          0
          only ....... war, from small to great, quickly multiply. joke.
        2. Grim Reaper
          Grim Reaper April 8 2018 21: 22
          +1
          Quote: sabakina
          Vyonosha, special operations after a considerable time are carried out against the countries of the third world. In this case, it was necessary to act within 72 hours. Everything else is perishable.

          you're not right.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina April 8 2018 21: 29
            +4
            Alexey, why? repeat
            1. novel66
              novel66 April 8 2018 21: 44
              +2
              I need to send a letter - "I'm going to you"
  6. 210ox
    210ox April 8 2018 17: 38
    +4
    That's right. With whom to negotiate? With the dwellers in Kiev? .. or from their sides .. But in general, why negotiate with the "Muscovite teril" if they can again pour slop with impunity? .. This is for reflection.
  7. rehev931
    rehev931 April 8 2018 17: 38
    +2
    [quote = Papandreou] It turns out that Ukrainian citizens were detained by the Ukrainian side for entering the port of Ukraine without permission from the Ukrainian side? [so it turns out that they left the Ukrainian port! wassat
  8. weksha50
    weksha50 April 8 2018 17: 44
    +5
    "Owners" ... of your word ...
    And all this became possible after the recognition of this legally unauthorized, gangster power ...
    Anyway, the impression is that in the leading circles of Ukraine there is NOT A SINGLE normal person ... They gathered from mental hospitals from all over Ukraine and built a "pyramid of power" ... Ugh !!!
  9. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii April 8 2018 17: 44
    +8
    TsU from across the ocean has come, apparently in Syria they again squeezed their tail.
  10. Masya masya
    Masya masya April 8 2018 17: 48
    +7
    warranties, warranties what warranties ... as you would expect ...
    1. sabakina
      sabakina April 8 2018 18: 54
      +4
      Marinochka love I’m probably so stupid that I still don’t understand why they were detained?
      It will not be in the subject, but I can not restrain myself.
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya April 8 2018 18: 57
        +5
        Quote: sabakina
        It will not be in the subject, but I can not restrain myself.

        good laughing love
        1. 210ox
          210ox April 8 2018 19: 41
          +3
          The shooting of these frames of the film "Detective" in Smolensk on the street. I saw the Communist near the State Bank .. Actors there that drank heavily mineral water ..
          Quote: sabakina
          Marinochka love I’m probably so stupid that I still don’t understand why they were detained?
          It will not be in the subject, but I can not restrain myself.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina April 8 2018 21: 09
            +4
            Dima, you can’t imagine how I envy you! crying In Kostroma, we have only snot and tears, such as "Cruel romance".
  11. ARES623
    ARES623 April 8 2018 17: 48
    +6
    On this occasion, some media outlets declared the Black Sea Fleet "hunting" for Ukrainian border guards, and today the news says that journalists barely agreed with some fishing vessel in Crimea to go to sea. Who is deceiving whom? It turns out that the fishermen do not trust the protection of the Russian Navy against the yellow-blue border guards on rusty troughs? Shame !!! The sleep of reason is in power! It seems that the notes of protest of the Foreign Ministry of Russia can be hung in the Nord latrine !?
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    2. Tersky
      Tersky April 8 2018 18: 16
      +4
      Quote: ARES623
      and today the news says
      Proof you will not please? Journalists are different, if they are well paid, then they will rewrite the Bible.
      1. ARES623
        ARES623 April 8 2018 18: 26
        0
        Quote: Tersky
        Proof you will not please? Journalists are different, if they are well paid, then they will rewrite the Bible.

        Weekly news on the Star, in my opinion.
    3. 210ox
      210ox April 8 2018 18: 19
      +1
      Of course they don’t trust. A situation with stray border guards shows that there are right words, but there are also facts of frank gossip leading to sad consequences. It’s all toothless.
      Quote: ARES623
      On this occasion, some media outlets declared the Black Sea Fleet "hunting" for Ukrainian border guards, and today the news says that journalists barely agreed with some fishing vessel in Crimea to go to sea. Who is deceiving whom? It turns out that the fishermen do not trust the protection of the Russian Navy against the yellow-blue border guards on rusty troughs? Shame !!! The sleep of reason is in power! It seems that the notes of protest of the Foreign Ministry of Russia can be hung in the Nord latrine !?
      1. ARES623
        ARES623 April 8 2018 18: 29
        +2
        Quote: 210ox
        Toothless all this.

        And this is alarming ... Soon, foreign ambassadors under our Ministry of Foreign Affairs will begin to urinate, and we will only threaten with a finger, and remember polites about Holmes.
  12. Paul zewike
    Paul zewike April 8 2018 17: 52
    +2
    Not bad kakeli framed. They can’t catch fish - they are afraid. And the pseudo-border guards rushed to the ports and tremble with fear. Debility power continues to improve the position of Russia.
  13. Heterocapsa
    Heterocapsa April 8 2018 17: 58
    +1
    Well, why are they finished just takes longing.
    1. ARES623
      ARES623 April 8 2018 18: 36
      +2
      Quote: Heterocapsa
      well, why are they finished just takes longing

      They are finished exactly as much as we allow them. Would close the strait (for example), they would behave differently. In general, this is a science for us. Taking into account their promises of terrorist attacks on the opening of the bridge, we would have reason to organize the admission of vessels only for those legal entities, or Ukraine as a whole, who would have previously made a security deposit to the bank of the owner of the bridge in the amount of possible damage from the terrorist attack (for example). No blackmail, all according to the laws of capitalist relations. No US + EU will find fault.
  14. lance
    lance April 8 2018 18: 08
    0
    a pig scrapes on its ridge.
  15. Wolka
    Wolka April 8 2018 18: 21
    +1
    the law is not written to fools, if it is written it is not understood ... and so on ad infinitum
  16. Dormidont
    Dormidont April 8 2018 18: 51
    0
    Good Bandera - dead Barderovets
  17. Zaval
    Zaval April 8 2018 18: 52
    +2
    The logic of Svidomo is as simple as their flag in the colors of downs: Either Russia takes harsh measures up to force, thereby confirming its status as an “aggressor country” destroying the “European choice” of Ukraine, thereby providing an excuse and reason for a new anti-Russian company. Either the sailors recognize themselves, with the tacit consent of Russia, as citizens of Ukraine, and therefore the Crimea is “temporarily occupied” by the territory, which will be a “great help on the way of the return of Crimea to Ukraine”.
    This is Occam’s razor, gentlemen, and what is the way out - one must think.
  18. Grei
    Grei April 8 2018 18: 57
    +1
    But it is interesting against the captain of the Ukrainian frontier. service case under article "piracy". One gets the impression that people in Ukraine are completely freed from the moral and legislative consequences of their actions. Do you want to kill people, sign up in the nat.bat and urine everyone right and left, bombard peaceful cities with hail or artillery, torture people to shoot, cut stars in people (or something else) and everything is as it should. I believe that this is a manifestation of FASCISM and such cases should not have a statute of limitations. Personal responsibility should be a cry here - this is someone from the crowd who can’t hide, Savchenko was convicted of her crime and I can safely say that she is a criminal and a murderer. So the captain is guarded. services of Ukraine can be detained together with the ship "having committed pirate seizure of the ship" or "Illegal abduction of a citizen of Russia" at the next exit on patrol in the shared water area. it’s obviously not a secret for the special services of Russia to have his first and last name. And it will not be possible to escape from personal responsibility and you will have to sit on your own for your crime, and not refer to Mr. President, who decided to pursue such a policy of provocations.
    1. Antares
      Antares April 8 2018 21: 08
      0
      Quote: Grei
      Savchenko was convicted of her crime and I can safely say that she is a criminal and a murderer.

      Reread information on the case. Yes, so you can plant anyone. It's like putting a man for rape, just because he could. laughing
      I do not believe Russian Themis. Repeatedly.
  19. saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm April 8 2018 18: 57
    0
    Russia needs to block the exit from the Sea of ​​Azov and the exit from Odessa, Kherson, Nikolaev and agree on the return of sailors. Tired of watching how big Russia give a snot.
  20. APASUS
    APASUS April 8 2018 19: 03
    0
    Class! Ukraine does not recognize the passports of Russian citizens?
    Again, it is worth returning to the reaction of our official - but there is no reaction! Quietly swallowed peacefully, fishing rods!
    1. Zaval
      Zaval April 8 2018 19: 30
      +1
      Ukraine does not recognize all documents of Russia issued in Crimea. Passports, birth certificates, marriage certificates, title to property, etc. issued by Russia. In relation to children born in Crimea after 2014, if you plan to travel to / to Ukraine, you must issue a Ukrainian birth certificate. Officially, there are offices that assist in obtaining Crimean documents of Ukraine, replacing passports, obtaining passports of Ukraine, and issuing birth certificates. And this is with the tacit consent of Russia.
      I live in Crimea, I understand people whose relatives stayed in Ukraine and with whom it is impossible to break off relations, but something needs to be done with this situation. Although I understand that it is impossible to do anything in the current situation.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS April 8 2018 19: 40
        0
        Quote: ZAVal
        I live in Crimea, I understand people whose relatives stayed in Ukraine and with whom it is impossible to break off relations, but something needs to be done with this situation. Although I understand that it is impossible to do anything in the current situation.

        I can’t answer right away, but I think something can be done. It’s just, for example, to annul the certificate of ownership of the Poroshenko battery plant in Russia, there is also starch production, there are a couple of three more productions. It’s just to question the documents.
        Enter a sanitary certificate for cargo, when passing under the Crimean bridge, the place of issue of the port of Temryuk.
        I think you can find a couple more options.
        1. Zaval
          Zaval April 8 2018 19: 55
          +1
          Quote: APASUS
          I think you can find a couple more options.

          And in response to all this, it will receive a round of anti-Russian hysteria, accusations of encroachment on private property, violation of freedom of navigation, etc. All this will be supported by the "world community", UN resolutions, the EU, the State Department’s concern and the introduction of new "restrictive measures."
          Personally, I believe that all this will continue as long as there is such a geopolitical entity as Ukraine in its current form. I am very good with a country like Ukraine, I lived in it from 1975 to 2014 (until the Crimea "sailed away"). with small interruptions, but the state of Ukraine, in its current form, does not have the right to exist.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS April 8 2018 20: 39
            0
            Quote: ZAVal
            And in response to all this, it will receive a round of anti-Russian hysteria, accusations of encroachment on private property, violation of freedom of navigation, etc. All this will be supported by the "world community", UN resolutions, the EU, the State Department’s concern and the introduction of new "restrictive measures."

            For Poroshenko, it’s not even necessary to invent anything, he is guilty of destroying the Ukrainian people, the whole point is that it would be competent to formalize this in court. Submit a lawsuit in the same Hague.
            But it’s not so simple at the expense of the courts. The captain is obliged to provide documents when passing through other people's territorial waters, this is fully provided for by maritime law. In each country, the legislation is very different, so the move is very possible.
          2. Antares
            Antares April 8 2018 21: 14
            0
            Quote: ZAVal
            but the state of Ukraine, in its current form, does not have the right to exist

            the trouble is that the existing Ukraine in its current form is supported by Crimea and Ordilo. If their consequences would not disappear very quickly (the authorities quickly discredited themselves and how they would have lost the election with Yushch)
            And the actions of some have led partners to rule.
            And the actions of Ukraine in the Crimea are standard. Physically, Ukraine could not interfere, but it does not intend to admit. If the situation was the same as in 2014, then the Russians would be met differently. They lost a lot in Ukraine.
            Many in Ukraine did not accept the loss of 13.22% of the territory. And then this is Pandora’s box for the Russian Federation,
            1. Zaval
              Zaval April 8 2018 21: 57
              +2
              Quote: Antares
              And the actions of some have led partners to steer

              Do not distort or confuse cause and effect. Crimea, as in the rest of Donetsk and Lugansk, told Kiev that we were on the way just after the “partners” intervened, who did not agree with Yanukovych’s non-signing of the Euroassociation, and distributed cookies on the Maidan.
              Crimea requested that the authority and constitution of the Crimea of ​​1991 be returned to him, but instead received a "friendship train" with militants from the Maidan, and only after that "train" did the question of leaving Ukraine and joining Russia arise.
              The consequences of the Maidan in 2014 would not have disappeared if Crimea and Donbass were preserved in Ukraine. Crimea would become the base of NATO, and Donbass - a platform for the production of shale gas by American firms. And all this against the backdrop of forcibly banderization.
              And the Pandora’s box must be buried together with the state of Ukraine in its current form.
  21. senima56
    senima56 April 8 2018 19: 42
    +1
    Gentlemen of politics, stop mocking people! If Ukrainians do not understand the normal relationship, it is necessary with them by their own methods: until they let people go and ship-block the Kerch Strait for ships flying the Ukrainian flag in both directions! I foresee what a stench will rise from the "free geyropa", but if so, "then tooth by tooth"!
  22. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter April 8 2018 19: 58
    +1
    All this is interesting of course. When will the crew be home? Simple question. He suggests a simple answer. There is no need for demagoguery and the spreading of thought through the tree. Tipa, right now there would be aircraft carriers, we would have fitted them to the shores of pearls, everyone would have crap and cried if the kids.
  23. Victorio
    Victorio April 8 2018 20: 07
    +1
    if the issues on the new state border at sea have not been settled in any way, then the ship went there at its own peril and risk, or the owner sent it, hence the problems.
  24. next322
    next322 April 8 2018 20: 32
    +1
    Quote: Paul Zewike
    Not bad kakeli framed. They can’t catch fish - they are afraid. And the pseudo-border guards rushed to the ports and tremble with fear. Debility power continues to improve the position of Russia.

    and who told you about this ?? that they tremble with fear and improve the position of Russia
  25. Antares
    Antares April 8 2018 20: 43
    0
    What kind of news? The author himself cites the data and the title is not relevant. Kiev has not denied anything. I just demanded a trip according to the documents of Ukraine.
    On the eve of each of the crew of the “Nord” was fined by a court in Mariupol for 3000-3400 hryvnia (about 6600 -7500 rubles). Stunned is just a crazy fine. These "Ukrainians" still cannot be stamped with a ban on entering Ukraine (as they did with some Russians), because they originally had blue passports (although in reality they are citizens of two countries at once, because they did not get rid of the first)
    They would not have been allowed to enter the Crimea with Russian documents. Not because they are Russian, but because they were issued to Krym after 2014. Kiev considers them invalid. Ukrainian will miss-
    Babin noted that the Ukrainian passports of the sailors at home - "of course, there are, and with them they will be allowed into the Crimea through the CPVV without problems."
    .

    Lawyers will hand over their blue passports and pass the checkpoint at Chongar. If they show Russian passports, they will go back (what’s the penalty, a ban on entry, a prison for three years ...)
    Total from each of 6000 thousand rubles and the opportunity to use a blue passport. Something that does not look like either "piracy" (as the Russian Federation says) or "Fighting the aggressor" (Ukrainian version)
    For they lie to the whole side! Therefore, you need to listen to two and understand that the truth is in the middle.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina April 8 2018 21: 15
      +3
      Antares, I already wrote that the total amount was divided into nine people. It turned out $ 133.33 per person. What the heresy?
  26. spektr9
    spektr9 April 8 2018 20: 49
    0
    While there will be no power option, no one will release the sailors ... Russia does not plan a power option
    The rescue of drowning people is the business of drowning themselves
    1. sabakina
      sabakina April 8 2018 21: 17
      +3
      Quote: spektr9
      The rescue of drowning people is the business of drowning themselves

  27. Leonidych
    Leonidych April 8 2018 21: 14
    0
    How much can we humiliate us in our land
    1. rammjager
      rammjager April 8 2018 21: 53
      0
      As long as you endure.
  28. Radikal
    Radikal April 8 2018 22: 27
    0
    Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
    Quote: aba
    there is only one question, “How long?”

    They behave exactly as we allow them. As a matter of fact, Ukrainians declared all Crimean residents who had accepted Russian citizenship as “criminals” and have now begun the Crimean hunting season, blatantly mocking at the “so-called Russian passports”.

    yes good hi
  29. Radikal
    Radikal April 8 2018 22: 28
    0
    Quote: leonidych
    How much can we humiliate us in our land

    Who are you asking? lol
  30. Radikal
    Radikal April 8 2018 22: 37
    0
    There is a suggestion - all exhale, and calm down, there will be nothing extraordinary! The elections were held, so the people's "anger" of power on the drum! sad
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII April 8 2018 22: 49
      +1
      Quote: Radikal
      There is a suggestion - all exhale, and calm down, there will be nothing extraordinary!

      So nothing happens ....
      Here you need to understand the entrepreneurial spirit of the captain and ship, to go to the shores of Ukraine - this is the same as selling fish to the Somali pirates caught under their nose .... lol
  31. Bypassed
    Bypassed April 9 2018 00: 11
    0
    Well, where is Mr. Lavrov with a large metal hardware in his hands?
    The Russians - until you start expelling the Ukrainians - they will "troll" you for different soft spots.
    Died - so died - enter the visa regime and expel Ukrainians. At the same time you will earn on visas
  32. Radikal
    Radikal April 9 2018 14: 42
    +1
    Quote: XXXIII
    Quote: Radikal
    There is a suggestion - all exhale, and calm down, there will be nothing extraordinary!

    So nothing happens ....
    Here you need to understand the entrepreneurial spirit of the captain and ship, to go to the shores of Ukraine - this is the same as selling fish to the Somali pirates caught under their nose .... lol

    The fact that the captain is possibly mk himself is not a reason to forgive anyone who got pirated acts against our ships and sailors! This is a precedent, and if you do not respond to it properly, it can be repeated with any other vessel, in any other place. In this case, there was no proper reaction, however, we are already accustomed to the "concern" of the country's political leadership. sad