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"Air!" US Integrates Patriot and THAAD 3.0 to Improve Air Defense

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The US military has been preoccupied with testing the air defense system in its territory. Thus, the possibility of combining the Patriot and THAAD systems was discussed by the Missile Defense Agency in New Mexico.


It was stated that it was necessary to link the two systems of different functionalities in order to increase the effectiveness of the antimissile defense of key military and civilian objects both in the US and beyond.

"Air!" US Integrates Patriot and THAAD 3.0 to Improve Air Defense


From the materials of the mentioned agency:
Linking systems into a coherent whole is crucial to creating a more efficient, multi-level approach to air and missile defense and can contribute to the development of a future command and control system for the army in Afghanistan, the Integrated Missile Defense System - IBCS.


It is known that the testing was carried out THAAD 3.0 software. Testing of the integrated system was carried out without real launches - using computer simulations of missile interception.

It should be recalled that several days ago at least two missiles of the American Patriot complex in Saudi Arabia passed by targets (missiles made by Hussites from Yemen’s territory). Then one of the Patriot missiles on takeoff suddenly turned around and hit literally a hundred meters from the launcher. It was stated that one person died, three more people were seriously injured.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 7 2018 07: 06
    +8
    Then one of the Patriot missiles when taking off, it suddenly turned around and hit literally a hundred meters from the launcher. It was stated that one person died, another three were seriously injured.

    "And we also have seven machine guns: three pieces are nothing, but the others - one sticks, the second shakes, and the third bullet in its own way!" bully
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic April 7 2018 07: 25
      +4
      So that every second rocket hit their launcher, and every first rocket explodes in the air a couple of seconds after launch!
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 7 2018 07: 44
        +1
        It’s time to write off all of these “Patriots” .. Our systems will overcome any air defense-missile defense, why do they need all this ..? It would be better for pensioners and emigrants to increase benefits, they are starving .. hehe laughing
    2. poquello
      poquello April 7 2018 07: 26
      +2
      Quote: aszzz888
      Then one of the Patriot missiles when taking off, it suddenly turned around and hit literally a hundred meters from the launcher. It was stated that one person died, another three were seriously injured.

      "And we also have seven machine guns: three pieces are nothing, but the others - one sticks, the second shakes, and the third bullet in its own way!" bully

      computer modeling is probably connected with this
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii April 7 2018 07: 51
        +9
        Like these semitrailers will unfold, so to say degrees by 130. In combat conditions, this is a dead hospital, tied to the "tank dangerous" direction. smile
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa April 7 2018 09: 55
        +4
        Quote: poquello
        computer modeling is probably connected with this
        Right But not only that.

        Computer simulation is an ideal image of air defense, in which the real technical factor of the readiness of systems and components of air defense / missile defense systems is placed outside the brackets.
        Second, the it's cheaper than spending material resources! And the Americans - they are also the "capitalists" about whom K. Marx wrote in his "Capital" ...
        And thirdly, the Yankees were seriously perplexed by the unified echelon air defense / missile defense system ... Previously, they considered themselves "unattainable" for ROS-ROS. Now, apparently after the presidential message to Fedsobru, they woke up and decided to cover at least something with their bare ass ... Strategic “challenges” they clearly did not like!
        1. Sergey985
          Sergey985 April 7 2018 10: 15
          +2
          You can’t do without real launches anyway. And for them, and with each individual component, the problems are quite serious. Most likely, they will come to the conclusion that the patriots will be replaced with something new. All started for that (personal opinion).
          1. assa67
            assa67 April 7 2018 12: 59
            +4
            Quote: Sergey985
            , will come to the conclusion about replacing the patriots with something new. All started

            exactly yes the shaft of alarmist articles in the mattress press forms an opinion on the validity of inflating the military budget .... everything is out of date, and in connection with the Russian threat, urgent measures must be taken
            1. poquello
              poquello April 7 2018 15: 37
              0
              Quote: assa67
              the shaft of alarmist articles in the mattress press forms an opinion on the validity of inflating the military budget .... in

              rubber it’s time for them to add more to the banknotes, well the budget stretches
              1. assa67
                assa67 April 7 2018 16: 02
                +2
                it is necessary to distribute "rubber" on the streets, or forcefully sterilize so that the lights do not multiply
              2. ALEXANDER ABDRAKHMANOV_2
                ALEXANDER ABDRAKHMANOV_2 April 8 2018 06: 18
                +1
                How much the US has stamped. this useless weapon, where they will put it all. So they will “protect” Europe with this junk only on a computer; they will not wake up another protection. But what money they earn on this junk, and all on deception. The most lying country in the world, and they still believe and buy it. That's what Anglo-Saxon propaganda does with the people, and they believe in these tales.
    3. Tusv
      Tusv April 7 2018 08: 22
      +2
      Quote: aszzz888
      and the third bullet in its own way! "bully

      Well so. Patriotic missiles go on strike bully
  2. Vard
    Vard April 7 2018 07: 24
    +3
    Yeah ... it certainly rejoice that the cow died not so well among the neighbors ... but the neighbors are too squabble ...
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 April 7 2018 07: 27
      +2
      Vard Today, 07: 24 New
      Yeah ... it certainly rejoice that the cow died not so well among the neighbors ... but the neighbors are too squabble.

      not so much "rejoicing" as comparing, but about the "neighbors"
      in saudi arabia
      , so these are two bast shoes on the map.
  3. Herculesic
    Herculesic April 7 2018 07: 26
    +1
    Here penguins raise the air, and check their "invisibility" real combat launches.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 7 2018 07: 33
      +3
      Checked already. In the air defense exercises about a year ago. No training launches, nor real ones. Penguin air defense radars were not detected. The teachings fell through.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 April 7 2018 07: 43
        +7
        voyaka uh (Alexey)
        No training launches, nor real ones. Penguin air defense radars were not detected. The teachings fell through.
        The radars are bad.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh April 7 2018 08: 26
          +3
          So what are .... sad so far no one has come up with a new generation. Neither in Russia nor in Israel.
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic April 7 2018 10: 24
            +7
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Oh, what there are .... so far no one has come up with a new generation. Neither in Russia nor in Israel.

            There is. For example, the Radar Sunflower or Lagoon without any problems detects and leads similar targets. This is an over-the-horizon radar when working in the short-wave range that fighters with the maximum use of stealth technology in them are as distinctly visible as WWII airplanes, flying up to 500 km on ultra-small up to 150 km.
            Well, a more powerful Container from Mordovia sees everything within a radius of 3000 km in a sector in the azimuth of 240 degrees.
            It is not a problem to see a penguin; all radars of modern long-range air defense systems are capable of this; the problem so far is to ensure the most effective firing on fifth-generation fighters. However, this problem is only a matter of the near future, not only for us but also for the Chinese ... American counterparts are far behind even the Chinese in this matter because ground-based complexes for the fight against fifth-generation airplanes have not been developed since they have relied on their own total air superiority, both qualitative and quantitative.
            Now, when their advantage in the air is leveled, they remembered about the integrated air defense, and since there are no new complexes, they are sculpting from what is.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh April 7 2018 10: 48
              0
              "The problem so far is to ensure the most effective firing on fifth-generation fighters." /////

              In plain language: we see something, but we can’t get there wink
      2. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 7 2018 07: 48
        +4
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Checked already. In the air defense exercises about a year ago. No training launches, nor real ones. Penguin air defense radars were not detected. The teachings fell through.

        Alexei, how are you doing with the Iron Dome? Something recently, such silence ..
        F-16 your shot down by the Syrians! How did your people react to this terrible fact?
        How is the health of the pilot ..? They say there he had something very badly burned ..
        1. Tusv
          Tusv April 7 2018 08: 26
          +1
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Alexei, how are you doing with the Iron Dome?

          They are all shareware. While the penguins were flying, the radar operators saw the advertisement bully
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh April 7 2018 08: 32
          +1
          "How did your people react to this terrible fact?" ////

          Pilots were punished for sloppiness. When the device reports that a missile is going to the plane, it is necessary to do the usual anti-ballistic maneuver, and not to look at targets on the ground.
          The second plane reacted, and the rockets went into milk.
        3. Lex.
          Lex. April 7 2018 09: 26
          0
          The iron dome is not even able to intercept hail and mortar shells only ancient casamas
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh April 7 2018 09: 53
            0
            Grads - with the highest performance (Grads have a clear ballistic trajectory).
            Mortar shells - no, do not have time to react. Kasams - yes, but worse than Grads, since everything is crookedly welded laughing and the trajectory is harder to calculate.
            1. Lex.
              Lex. April 7 2018 10: 05
              +1
              I don’t need this Israeli propaganda, for example, hez 4, I heard that working out can bring down a target of 6000 km / h means the missile complex is not a dagger for him
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh April 7 2018 10: 57
                0
                Of course, too tough. Iskander dropped from the MiG-31- not a gift angry Only the Hetz-5 dropped from the F-15, perhaps, can scare him a little. But this is a secret design. Not a word to anyone! bully
                1. Lex.
                  Lex. April 7 2018 11: 01
                  +1
                  In cases of war with Hezbalah, 3000 rockets per day will be launched across Israel, this is the minimum, so here hez-10 would not help
                  1. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh April 7 2018 11: 33
                    0
                    We’ll bombard something, intercept something, and fly something ... War is not a picnic.
                    1. Lex.
                      Lex. April 7 2018 11: 35
                      +1
                      I remember from Nahariya when it happened that 40 missiles per day fell and almost in the same place the whole war says that the installations were not found and rockets in the vicinity of 200 meters did not fall near you?
      3. Herculesic
        Herculesic April 7 2018 08: 17
        +4
        Alexey hi and did not try to include radars? wassat They say it helps lol !
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh April 7 2018 08: 27
          +4
          Tried it does not help .... crying
          1. Tusv
            Tusv April 7 2018 08: 31
            +4
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Tried it does not help ....

            Well tada. One answer. It's time to change the gasket ....
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 7 2018 08: 40
            0
            And at what distance did the radars not see the 35th?
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh April 7 2018 08: 55
              +1
              When the F-15 and F-16 (exercises were complex) were in the zone of guaranteed destruction of missiles, F-35 was not visible on the same radars.
              1. Sergey985
                Sergey985 April 7 2018 10: 24
                +3
                Sly, it seems. And when it was announced that he faced the F35 bird over Lebanon, and not Syrian air defense worked? The Syrians stated that they looked through everything perfectly. Maybe only the radars of American complexes are blind ?????
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh April 7 2018 10: 51
                  0
                  Of course, only the American blind. Do not even hesitate. laughing
                  1. Sergey985
                    Sergey985 April 7 2018 10: 58
                    +1
                    I doubt it! And I recall the proverb about the log and his eye. It looks like PR. laughing
                    1. voyaka uh
                      voyaka uh April 7 2018 11: 35
                      +1
                      Ours are also blind, I admit. (Everyone sees only Russian - Almaz-antey will not let you lie smile ).
                      1. Sergey985
                        Sergey985 April 7 2018 11: 55
                        0
                        In other words, the Syrians lied about the shelling of the F35? Do you confirm this?
              2. SETTGF
                SETTGF April 7 2018 15: 19
                0
                Alexey! Do not write about what you do not know, but assume! The F-35 cannot be made invisible, it all depends not only on the small EPR, but also on other factors ... everything else is your tales and nothing more! I suppose - you understand what I mean?
  4. Herculesic
    Herculesic April 7 2018 07: 30
    +2
    "Air" is already damaged wassat ! In Norway, the toilet bowls are cracking out of panic, and you’ll start firing bullets with your own rockets at a white light, like a penny! !! wassat
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 7 2018 07: 40
    +4
    one of the Patriot system missiles suddenly took off during take-off and hit literally a hundred meters from the launcher
    Saudi Patriots are constantly having problems. It seems that they were made not in the United States, but in Ukraine. And a lot of money was paid to American crooks. There were problems with interception in both Japan and Hawaii.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 7 2018 08: 50
      +1
      In service with Saudi Arabia are SAM "Patriot" PAC-2. The probability of hitting an airplane is 0,8-0,9, and a tactical missile is 0,3-0,4 with one missile in the absence of interference. The height of the defeat of ballistic targets is up to 11 km, the radius is 20 km against ballistic targets. This is the same "missile defense" complex as our S 300PS.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh April 7 2018 09: 57
        0
        That's right. The Patriot is primarily an anti-aircraft system redone against some BRs. Knocks down the BR literally "over the roofs." The warheads of the affected rocket fall if the city is right on it. Therefore, it seems that sheer blunders.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 April 7 2018 11: 10
          0
          The effectiveness of THAAD will learn how to fulfill the contract for Saudi Arabia to supply 44 launchers, 360 missiles, 16 command posts and seven radars - the war with Yemen will continue for more than one year.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh April 7 2018 11: 37
            +1
            It is unlikely that THAAD will spend on Yemenis. THAAD missiles are much more expensive. The Saudis are preparing to fight with Iran, and they are safe.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 April 7 2018 14: 12
              0
              But the Yemenis are already using Iran’s missiles.
      2. dvina71
        dvina71 April 7 2018 11: 36
        +1
        Quote: Vadim237
        0,3-0,4 single missile in the absence of interference

        Just the other day .. They fired at the BR with two missiles, we can’t even talk about interference .. The result is not very good ..
        Despite the fact that there was a period of Tochkopad in the Donbass .. (although there are allegations that this is from old age, it didn’t stop them from smashing them in the military unit near Donetsk in June 14) ..
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 April 7 2018 14: 14
          0
          These missiles probably have expired, they were put back in the 90s.
          1. dvina71
            dvina71 April 7 2018 14: 29
            +1
            Quote: Vadim237
            These missiles probably have expired, they were put back in the 90s.

            Yes .. for the BR, everything’s expired.
      3. SETTGF
        SETTGF April 7 2018 15: 36
        +1
        Vadim! You didn’t take into account that the Patriot needs to be deployed in the direction of the attack, and the S-300PS is not needed, and this is a loss of time, as well as the S-300PS is not necessary to receive satellite signals like the Patriot, but this is a loss of time .. .da and the parameters of the "Patriot" a little falls short of the S-300! Therefore, our S-300 and "Patriot" are not analogues, even in the third modification of the PAC-3 "Patriot" ...
  6. SETTGF
    SETTGF April 7 2018 10: 53
    0
    Good thinking - comes afterwards!
  7. Dezinto
    Dezinto April 7 2018 13: 59
    +1
    These are the missiles that are deployed in the air and attack their own? Well ... well ..... let them integrate further ....
  8. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I April 7 2018 14: 52
    +3
    US integrates ... Weird! When the Americans created THAAD, then they announced that this “waffle” would be used in the Patriot anti-aircraft missile system! How many years have passed! And "integrate" again? This ... how about the start of the production of 40H6 zur in Russia? Or am I confusing something? (Again, sclerosis intervened!)
  9. Malkovich
    Malkovich April 10 2018 13: 21
    0
    In any case, no matter how much the Americans improve the missile defense system, it will not be as reliable and effective as Russian counterparts! At least because the American missile defense is designed to intercept targets at a great distance from the target, outside the atmosphere. And taking into account the modernization of medium-range missiles, their maneuverability, changing trajectories, the chance of successful interception is noticeably reduced. The big minus is that the American missile defense system does not work for the goals of American production, respectively, their value is again noticeably reduced in the world market. By and large, the American missile defense is nothing more than a big name from scratch!