"Air!" US Integrates Patriot and THAAD 3.0 to Improve Air Defense

The US military has been preoccupied with testing the air defense system in its territory. Thus, the possibility of combining the Patriot and THAAD systems was discussed by the Missile Defense Agency in New Mexico.

It was stated that it was necessary to link the two systems of different functionalities in order to increase the effectiveness of the antimissile defense of key military and civilian objects both in the US and beyond.

From the materials of the mentioned agency:

Linking systems into a coherent whole is crucial to creating a more efficient, multi-level approach to air and missile defense and can contribute to the development of a future command and control system for the army in Afghanistan, the Integrated Missile Defense System - IBCS.

It is known that the testing was carried out THAAD 3.0 software. Testing of the integrated system was carried out without real launches - using computer simulations of missile interception.

It should be recalled that several days ago at least two missiles of the American Patriot complex in Saudi Arabia passed by targets (missiles made by Hussites from Yemen’s territory). Then one of the Patriot missiles on takeoff suddenly turned around and hit literally a hundred meters from the launcher. It was stated that one person died, three more people were seriously injured.

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[aszzz888]

Then one of the Patriot missiles when taking off, it suddenly turned around and hit literally a hundred meters from the launcher. It was stated that one person died, another three were seriously injured.

"And we also have seven machine guns: three pieces are nothing, but the others - one sticks, the second shakes, and the third bullet in its own way!"

[Herculesic]

So that every second rocket hit their launcher, and every first rocket explodes in the air a couple of seconds after launch!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

It’s time to write off all of these “Patriots” .. Our systems will overcome any air defense-missile defense, why do they need all this ..? It would be better for pensioners and emigrants to increase benefits, they are starving .. hehe

[poquello]

Quote: aszzz888

Then one of the Patriot missiles when taking off, it suddenly turned around and hit literally a hundred meters from the launcher. It was stated that one person died, another three were seriously injured.

"And we also have seven machine guns: three pieces are nothing, but the others - one sticks, the second shakes, and the third bullet in its own way!"

computer modeling is probably connected with this

[ul_vitalii]

Like these semitrailers will unfold, so to say degrees by 130. In combat conditions, this is a dead hospital, tied to the "tank dangerous" direction.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: poquello

computer modeling is probably connected with this

Right But not only that.

Computer simulation is an ideal image of air defense, in which the real technical factor of the readiness of systems and components of air defense / missile defense systems is placed outside the brackets.
Second, the it's cheaper than spending material resources! And the Americans - they are also the "capitalists" about whom K. Marx wrote in his "Capital" ...
And thirdly, the Yankees were seriously perplexed by the unified echelon air defense / missile defense system ... Previously, they considered themselves "unattainable" for ROS-ROS. Now, apparently after the presidential message to Fedsobru, they woke up and decided to cover at least something with their bare ass ... Strategic “challenges” they clearly did not like!

[Sergey985]

You can’t do without real launches anyway. And for them, and with each individual component, the problems are quite serious. Most likely, they will come to the conclusion that the patriots will be replaced with something new. All started for that (personal opinion).

[assa67]

Quote: Sergey985

, will come to the conclusion about replacing the patriots with something new. All started

exactly the shaft of alarmist articles in the mattress press forms an opinion on the validity of inflating the military budget .... everything is out of date, and in connection with the Russian threat, urgent measures must be taken

[poquello]

Quote: assa67

the shaft of alarmist articles in the mattress press forms an opinion on the validity of inflating the military budget .... in

rubber it’s time for them to add more to the banknotes, well the budget stretches

[assa67]

it is necessary to distribute "rubber" on the streets, or forcefully sterilize so that the lights do not multiply

[ALEXANDER ABDRAKHMANOV_2]

How much the US has stamped. this useless weapon, where they will put it all. So they will “protect” Europe with this junk only on a computer; they will not wake up another protection. But what money they earn on this junk, and all on deception. The most lying country in the world, and they still believe and buy it. That's what Anglo-Saxon propaganda does with the people, and they believe in these tales.

[Tusv]

Quote: aszzz888

and the third bullet in its own way! "bully

Well so. Patriotic missiles go on strike

[Vard]

Yeah ... it certainly rejoice that the cow died not so well among the neighbors ... but the neighbors are too squabble ...

[aszzz888]

Vard Today, 07: 24 New
Yeah ... it certainly rejoice that the cow died not so well among the neighbors ... but the neighbors are too squabble.

not so much "rejoicing" as comparing, but about the "neighbors"

in saudi arabia

, so these are two bast shoes on the map.

[Herculesic]

Here penguins raise the air, and check their "invisibility" real combat launches.

[voyaka uh]

Checked already. In the air defense exercises about a year ago. No training launches, nor real ones. Penguin air defense radars were not detected. The teachings fell through.

[Observer2014]

voyaka uh (Alexey)

No training launches, nor real ones. Penguin air defense radars were not detected. The teachings fell through.

The radars are bad.

[voyaka uh]

So what are .... so far no one has come up with a new generation. Neither in Russia nor in Israel.

[Ascetic]

Quote: voyaka uh

Oh, what there are .... so far no one has come up with a new generation. Neither in Russia nor in Israel.

There is. For example, the Radar Sunflower or Lagoon without any problems detects and leads similar targets. This is an over-the-horizon radar when working in the short-wave range that fighters with the maximum use of stealth technology in them are as distinctly visible as WWII airplanes, flying up to 500 km on ultra-small up to 150 km.
Well, a more powerful Container from Mordovia sees everything within a radius of 3000 km in a sector in the azimuth of 240 degrees.
It is not a problem to see a penguin; all radars of modern long-range air defense systems are capable of this; the problem so far is to ensure the most effective firing on fifth-generation fighters. However, this problem is only a matter of the near future, not only for us but also for the Chinese ... American counterparts are far behind even the Chinese in this matter because ground-based complexes for the fight against fifth-generation airplanes have not been developed since they have relied on their own total air superiority, both qualitative and quantitative.
Now, when their advantage in the air is leveled, they remembered about the integrated air defense, and since there are no new complexes, they are sculpting from what is.

[voyaka uh]

"The problem so far is to ensure the most effective firing on fifth-generation fighters." /////

In plain language: we see something, but we can’t get there

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: voyaka uh

Checked already. In the air defense exercises about a year ago. No training launches, nor real ones. Penguin air defense radars were not detected. The teachings fell through.

Alexei, how are you doing with the Iron Dome? Something recently, such silence ..
F-16 your shot down by the Syrians! How did your people react to this terrible fact?
How is the health of the pilot ..? They say there he had something very badly burned ..

[Tusv]

Quote: MIKHAN

Alexei, how are you doing with the Iron Dome?

They are all shareware. While the penguins were flying, the radar operators saw the advertisement

[voyaka uh]

"How did your people react to this terrible fact?" ////

Pilots were punished for sloppiness. When the device reports that a missile is going to the plane, it is necessary to do the usual anti-ballistic maneuver, and not to look at targets on the ground.
The second plane reacted, and the rockets went into milk.

[Lex.]

The iron dome is not even able to intercept hail and mortar shells only ancient casamas

[voyaka uh]

Grads - with the highest performance (Grads have a clear ballistic trajectory).
Mortar shells - no, do not have time to react. Kasams - yes, but worse than Grads, since everything is crookedly welded and the trajectory is harder to calculate.

[Lex.]

I don’t need this Israeli propaganda, for example, hez 4, I heard that working out can bring down a target of 6000 km / h means the missile complex is not a dagger for him

[voyaka uh]

Of course, too tough. Iskander dropped from the MiG-31- not a gift Only the Hetz-5 dropped from the F-15, perhaps, can scare him a little. But this is a secret design. Not a word to anyone!

[Lex.]

In cases of war with Hezbalah, 3000 rockets per day will be launched across Israel, this is the minimum, so here hez-10 would not help

[voyaka uh]

We’ll bombard something, intercept something, and fly something ... War is not a picnic.

[Lex.]

I remember from Nahariya when it happened that 40 missiles per day fell and almost in the same place the whole war says that the installations were not found and rockets in the vicinity of 200 meters did not fall near you?

[Herculesic]

Alexey and did not try to include radars? They say it helps !

[voyaka uh]

Tried it does not help ....

[Tusv]

Quote: voyaka uh

Tried it does not help ....

Well tada. One answer. It's time to change the gasket ....

[Vadim237]

And at what distance did the radars not see the 35th?

[voyaka uh]

When the F-15 and F-16 (exercises were complex) were in the zone of guaranteed destruction of missiles, F-35 was not visible on the same radars.

[Sergey985]

Sly, it seems. And when it was announced that he faced the F35 bird over Lebanon, and not Syrian air defense worked? The Syrians stated that they looked through everything perfectly. Maybe only the radars of American complexes are blind ?????

[voyaka uh]

Of course, only the American blind. Do not even hesitate.

[Sergey985]

I doubt it! And I recall the proverb about the log and his eye. It looks like PR.

[voyaka uh]

Ours are also blind, I admit. (Everyone sees only Russian - Almaz-antey will not let you lie ).

[Sergey985]

In other words, the Syrians lied about the shelling of the F35? Do you confirm this?

[SETTGF]

Alexey! Do not write about what you do not know, but assume! The F-35 cannot be made invisible, it all depends not only on the small EPR, but also on other factors ... everything else is your tales and nothing more! I suppose - you understand what I mean?

[Herculesic]

"Air" is already damaged ! In Norway, the toilet bowls are cracking out of panic, and you’ll start firing bullets with your own rockets at a white light, like a penny! !!

[rotmistr60]

one of the Patriot system missiles suddenly took off during take-off and hit literally a hundred meters from the launcher

Saudi Patriots are constantly having problems. It seems that they were made not in the United States, but in Ukraine. And a lot of money was paid to American crooks. There were problems with interception in both Japan and Hawaii.

[Vadim237]

In service with Saudi Arabia are SAM "Patriot" PAC-2. The probability of hitting an airplane is 0,8-0,9, and a tactical missile is 0,3-0,4 with one missile in the absence of interference. The height of the defeat of ballistic targets is up to 11 km, the radius is 20 km against ballistic targets. This is the same "missile defense" complex as our S 300PS.

[voyaka uh]

That's right. The Patriot is primarily an anti-aircraft system redone against some BRs. Knocks down the BR literally "over the roofs." The warheads of the affected rocket fall if the city is right on it. Therefore, it seems that sheer blunders.

[Vadim237]

The effectiveness of THAAD will learn how to fulfill the contract for Saudi Arabia to supply 44 launchers, 360 missiles, 16 command posts and seven radars - the war with Yemen will continue for more than one year.

[voyaka uh]

It is unlikely that THAAD will spend on Yemenis. THAAD missiles are much more expensive. The Saudis are preparing to fight with Iran, and they are safe.

[Vadim237]

But the Yemenis are already using Iran’s missiles.

[dvina71]

Quote: Vadim237

0,3-0,4 single missile in the absence of interference

Just the other day .. They fired at the BR with two missiles, we can’t even talk about interference .. The result is not very good ..
Despite the fact that there was a period of Tochkopad in the Donbass .. (although there are allegations that this is from old age, it didn’t stop them from smashing them in the military unit near Donetsk in June 14) ..

[Vadim237]

These missiles probably have expired, they were put back in the 90s.

[dvina71]

Quote: Vadim237

These missiles probably have expired, they were put back in the 90s.

Yes .. for the BR, everything’s expired.

[SETTGF]

Vadim! You didn’t take into account that the Patriot needs to be deployed in the direction of the attack, and the S-300PS is not needed, and this is a loss of time, as well as the S-300PS is not necessary to receive satellite signals like the Patriot, but this is a loss of time .. .da and the parameters of the "Patriot" a little falls short of the S-300! Therefore, our S-300 and "Patriot" are not analogues, even in the third modification of the PAC-3 "Patriot" ...

[SETTGF]

Good thinking - comes afterwards!

[Dezinto]

These are the missiles that are deployed in the air and attack their own? Well ... well ..... let them integrate further ....

[Nikolaevich I]

US integrates ... Weird! When the Americans created THAAD, then they announced that this “waffle” would be used in the Patriot anti-aircraft missile system! How many years have passed! And "integrate" again? This ... how about the start of the production of 40H6 zur in Russia? Or am I confusing something? (Again, sclerosis intervened!)

[Malkovich]

In any case, no matter how much the Americans improve the missile defense system, it will not be as reliable and effective as Russian counterparts! At least because the American missile defense is designed to intercept targets at a great distance from the target, outside the atmosphere. And taking into account the modernization of medium-range missiles, their maneuverability, changing trajectories, the chance of successful interception is noticeably reduced. The big minus is that the American missile defense system does not work for the goals of American production, respectively, their value is again noticeably reduced in the world market. By and large, the American missile defense is nothing more than a big name from scratch!