Sworn friends. Greece throws 7 thousand troops to the border with Turkey

The Greek Defense Minister Panos Kammenos ordered an increase in the military grouping near the borders with Turkey. In particular, we are talking about the transfer of Greek soldiers to the border islands in the Aegean Sea.

In total, about 3,5 thousand troops were sent to the islands. And about the same - to the land border with Turkey in the province (nome) Evros.

The journalists asked Kammenos about the reasons for the transfer of additional units to the Turkish border. According to Kammenos, the main military department of the country is forced to make such a decision due to the deterioration of relations with the neighboring state.

Kammenos:

We do not expect any help from the allies in this matter. We rely only on our own strength. Despite the ongoing economic crisis, the combat capability of our troops should not fall.

According to Kammenos, one of the most pressing issues is the question of keeping Ankara Greek soldiers in Turkish prisons.

Greek Minister of Defense:

But we will definitely get them out.

We are talking about two Greek soldiers, whom the Turkish border guards detained in the area of ​​Evros, when they entered the territory of Turkey for several tens of meters in bad weather conditions. After the detention of the two Greeks accused of espionage, and they are waiting for a court decision.

Ankara, in turn, accuses Athens of the fact that the Greek authorities are delaying the extradition of former Turkish soldiers accused of participating in an attempted coup d'etat in Turkey.

Recall that Greece and Turkey are members of NATO.

Comments

[mgero]

A when oni nochnut vaevat? Zajdalis je Mi!

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: mgero

A kogda oni nochnut vaevat?

What for? There are so many unnecessary deaths in the world ....

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Someone clearly from outside is pushing Greece into conflict with the Turks .. Be careful of the Greeks, do not believe these dogs!

[Dam]

The goal is simple: during the war of the Turks with the Greeks, Russia's position is Greek. How is the temporary union of Russia and Turkey to someone behind the puddle eating away

[garnik]

Quote: Damm

The goal is simple: during the war of the Turks with the Greeks, Russia's position is Greek. How is the temporary union of Russia and Turkey to someone behind the puddle eating away

For some reason, in the 20s, Soviet Russia preferred the Turks. Thus, in the war with the Greeks, the Turks prevailed.
And now you can’t prove to the Turks that thanks to the help of Russia, Turkey exists within today's borders.

[russia2016]

Yes, you're right, the victory of this Turkic-Mongols is due to a creature named Lenin, who helped Ataturk with gold, military factories and military assistance in the person of Comrade Frunze, though the Turkic-Mongols naturally do not mention this inconvenient fact

[kupitman]

don’t call the Ottomans the Mongols, as part of Russia there are Mongols (Republic of Tuva), good people and profess Buddhism. And also Mongolia sent several divisions to the Red Army to the Second World War, not to mention thousands of short fur coats, felt boots and hundreds of thousands of tons of horse meat.

[garnik]

But the Turks are recording them in their circle.
All Türks of prosperity, except those who left their home and went in search and capture of other people's houses.
In general, Tuvans in the language of the Turks.

[kupitman]

it doesn’t make them Turks, the Russian language is the language of the Indo-European group, from this we do not become Indians

[russia2016]

Well, you can consider and call the Mongols even Russian, but Mr. Ertogan with his idea of ​​pan-Turkism does not clearly think so

[lesnik1978]

Greece participated in the intervention, so she had a stigma in the cannon. Maybe this helped Turkey !?

[russia2016]

What kind of intervention are you talking about? Who has the stigma in the gun, what are you talking about? Maybe you’ll read about the history of relations between Turkey and Russia first, just to refresh your memory, otherwise it’s obviously been suffering from you recently

[parkello]

Yes, we do not believe it. but the Turks have long been impudent and climb the islands. they need to expand the marine zone of influence and development of hydrocarbons in the Cyprus area. there are large deposits of oil and gas. they were the first to start provocations. and now their planes often fly over the border and their soldiers wandered to us. we didn’t take them prisoner .. are we still Turks at our place? and they do not disdain any meanness. we are not afraid of them. let them climb. the maximum that they can occupy a couple of islands. but there they will be buried later. after Syria, they will climb to us. when else will the S-400 be received. otherwise piss. do not listen to provocateurs on the forums, our guys are savvy and well prepared for war. they cannot take us. Well, there’s something they can only temporarily take, yes. but they will not be able to keep on going any further. the Turks are right now bogged down in Syria. so now they are not up to us, but as soon as Syria ends. they will come. we are waiting for them. we will meet as expected, let’s give a light. and then it’s not a pity to die.

[garnik]

The Americans did not allow Greek aircraft into the conflict zone.
40 thousand Turks against 12 thousand Cypriots and 2 thousand Greeks.

[tekinoral]

Garnik you what! Must be peppered when the Turkish theme,? Yes, now there will be no other way, against 7000 thousand they will send 15000 and everything will end

[russia2016]

and you’re tearing your ass for the Turks, have become allies, so? So you don’t count on it much, these Islamists will not be enough for a long time, they saw Orthodox Russia in a coffin.
Greece will become Turks across the throat, it will not be a walk across Africa, it’s a shame of course that Russia merged us, although it was Greece that always supported Russia in everything, being its only real ally in the Balkans along with Serbia.

[garnik]

It’s not the Russians who merge, but those who come to power that 1917, that now, it’s true in the form of an oligarchy, although there are not a few advisers like Parvus surrounded by Garant.

[russia2016]

I agree with you

[kupitman]

This is when Russia merged you?
You are a country of NATO, the EU. Never voted against the sanctions, did not recognize the Crimea, and we merged you? Yes, your politicians say something there about the support of the Russian Federation, but as soon as the EU summit you didn’t block any anti-Russian project. This is about "always and in every way supported."

[garnik]

In 1920, the Greeks besieged Ankira (Ankara), but due to lack of ammunition and food, both sides agreed to a temporary truce. Both sides turned to Soviet Russia for help. The Turks received help, after which Turkey was finally cleansed of Christians.
https://lenta.ru/articles/2016/04/14/ankara/
read
All the same thing is happening now, i.e. friendship with the Turks.

[kupitman]

1920 is a civil year in Russia, for survival, the young Soviet government was ready to trade peripheral territories as you like.
Turks were the first to recognize the USSR, Armenians were also offended by Lake Van and Ararat.

[kupitman]

In the 1920s and 30s, Christianity was banned in Russia, for the Soviet leadership the issue of faith was of little fundamental importance.
there’s an answer to the question why young Soviet Russia helped the Turks:
Why did Soviet Russia under Lenin help Kemalist Turkey, including gold and weapons?

Mustafa Kemal was a situational ally of Lenin. As in the case of Weimar Germany, it was a temporary union of two countries that were in international isolation. For the Kemalists, military and financial assistance from the Bolsheviks, as well as coordination of the military strategy with Moscow, seemed to be an important factor in the victory over the Greek intervention, which was actively supported by the countries of the Entente, especially England. Turkey was very important for Soviet Russia in its confrontation with the Entente. Moreover, interaction with Turkey hypothetically could help to quickly and efficiently carry out the Sovietization of the Caucasus and establish Soviet control in the Black Sea region. Therefore, Lenin not only provided Kemal with serious military assistance, but in 1921 he sent to Ankara a military adviser to one of the most capable Soviet military commanders Mikhail Frunze. In addition to weapons and gold, the Bolsheviks supplied food to Turkey, despite the famine in their country. Of course, the price of such an alliance was very high for us, but Lenin was afraid to lose Turkey, believing that it could turn into an ally of England.

[russia2016]

So for your information, it was Greece that never supported the sanctions against Russia, but at least take the latest sanctions, for example, Greece is one of the few EU countries that did not support the sanctions in the Skripal case, although the pressure is severe! And at the expense of Crimea, you are also in vain my dear, well, first of all, you will excuse us for expressing shit ... and inwardly when you recognized Macedonia as one of the first fake countries (populated by the so-called "Macedonians" - 45% Albanians, 55% Bulgarians) for which the so-called "Macedonians" are now grateful to you, they are eager to join NATO with such zeal, they are already tearing a fart (the moment of not instant Karma, as they say), secondly, how Greece would recognize the annexation of Crimea to Russia when it would be a carte blanche to the Turks on official accession of Cyprus

[kupitman]

In the EU, decisions on initiatives are taken unanimously, vote at least one country against and there would be no sanctions on Crimea or Boeing. You did not vote against, imposed sanctions. But I understand that the authorities in Brussels will not let you do otherwise.
Greece as part of the NATO bloc, today it is a block hostile to Russia. Start the war tomorrow, do you really leave NATO? who would let you.
More recently, Greece had the world's largest merchant fleet, you were a very strong country, today you are without a fleet and in debt like silk.
I can’t say anything about Macedonia, given that you are in NATO — maybe this was an attempt to sow rubbish in your bloc. I do not know.

[russia2016]

You speak about the right of veto when voting in the European Union? Yes, Greece didn’t do it when voting, who would allow them, but the fact remains Greece did not vote for sanctions and was against them (unlike most other EU countries), although to be honest about Crimea, we understand that it is part of Russia, but how sideways would Europe officially support the annexation of Crimea to Russia when it officially belonged to Ukraine, if the Europeans recognized this, you represent Whatever Pandora's box would be opened again, the division of territories would begin again. Russia had to act like Turkey did in the 70s, it simply chopped off half of Cyprus, but did not officially attach itself to this territory, although everyone understands that it is already part of Turkey, in fact, the Turks will do the same in Syria.
At the expense of NATO, it’s you too in vain, there wasn’t and willn’t be unanimity in NATO, in fact it’s a fake block, the backbone in it is the States, England, France, all other countries just for show, because virtually every country somehow oppresses its own line and interests do not coincide.
At the expense of Greece and its fleet, and here you are mistaken, Greece has the first merchant fleet in the world, and everyone knows this, and the fact that most of their ships sail under the Liberian flag still does not say anything, since this is connected only with taxation, the headquarters shipowner's apartments are somehow all housed in Greece.

[Grits]

it was Greece that always and in everything supported Russia, being its only real ally in the Balkans
Exactly - it was. NATO membership says a lot. With explicit respect for you.

[russia2016]

It’s interesting, but what does NATO membership tell you, what is it about ??? Turkey, a NATO member, for example, doesn’t even scratch its way out of the bloc, but it is one of Russia's main ally. So do not here tra la la ...!

[kupitman]

Turkey and I do not have an alliance agreement. Do interests coincide? yes, in places. And you have agreements with the EU and NATO, including the Turks, your ALLIES. And article 5 will oblige you to fit in for them

[russia2016]

And yet, the NATO leadership is well aware that in the event of a real conflict with Russia, they may not count on Greece, due to the historically traditionally good attitude of Greece to Russia, unlike Turkey, by the way

[kupitman]

Unfortunately, they won’t even ask you. But I want your words to be true.
I love your people and country and have a reverence. But the way everything is today is not at all pleasing to me. In the end, your soldiers may not be forced to kill Russians, but the ports for warships will be taken.

[russia2016]

Nobody will force anything Denis, no offense against the will of the people. A similar thing happened already in Greece, when NATO tried to use the Greek bases and ports for bombing Yugoslavia, so the people simply blocked and blocked all the moves and exits from the bases and ports, something was out of place, the whole of Greece was for the Serbs, the NATO was afraid to stick their nose out. The same thing will happen if they trample against Russia

[kupitman]

but I understand your European choice - the Russian Federation cannot offer you anything, in any case, a joint Europe can offer you more and more than we do. And this is sad. Once your emperors influenced the Eastern Slavs, but our ancestors nailed the shield to Constantinople, but it was rather a prank.

[hezbola]

Do you really think that the s400 will be delivered to the Turks as good as in the whole of the Russian Federation?;)

[garnik]

Someone clearly from outside is pushing Greece into conflict with the Turks .. Be careful of the Greeks, do not believe these dogs!

After Afrin, the Turks went wild. Rather, the Turks provoke the Greeks.
They felt the smell of blood and, like their symbol, the "wolf" are looking for prey in the teeth, until they run into a bear.

[tekinoral]

Did you hope that the Turks lose or do not know how to fight?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: mgero

A when oni nochnut vaevat? Zajdalis je Mi!

Then, when the United States will give the go-ahead to the outbreak of armed conflict, because it is they who win in this situation. The US really does not like the alliance of Turkey with Russia and Iran in solving the Syrian problem. Moreover, for the United States, Turkey’s participation in the collapse of the American project to create an “independent” Kurdistan like a bone in the throat. By creating a "smut" for the Turks in the direction of the disputed territories in the Aegean, the United States hopes to weaken their role in the Syrian issue.

[Gray brother]

What will they do there, on the islands? Is there anything to hatch eggs?
Some indistinct movers.

[C0ba1tum]

Isn’t it there Ankara is pumping oil? Heh. Poor Baba Wang, probably hiccups to her. Even everything as if by notes

[Gray brother]

Quote: C0ba1tum

Isn’t it there Ankara is pumping oil?

No, they have territorial graters there. The Greeks decided to land their military on the disputed islands, but in the event of hostilities, they will be cut off from supplies there and that's it - forks.

[Dezinto]

But everyone is numb !?

[bald]

--- "... But we will definitely pull them out of there." - On such a technique? It’s a sin to conceal, Turkey’s struggle with Greece is somehow not believable. They would have taken and exchanged prisoners.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: bald

--- "... But we will definitely pull them out of there." - On such a technique? It’s a sin to conceal, Turkey’s struggle with Greece is somehow not believable. They would have taken and exchanged prisoners.

Because Turkey is moving closer to Russia, it will provoke conflicts from all sides .. And Greece owes "some comrades" a huge debt (robbed them naive ..) And Greece was promised to write off part of the debt .. All this fuss is directed against Russia there’s nothing to think about!
You just won’t take anything Russian, by your intrigues and provocations, we began to understand a lot ..Now Ivanov you won’t spend "comrades of all stripes" on your chaff!

[bald]

Good evening Vitaliy. Greece has not fought too long, at least help her, but there is no experience. And the fact that the Red (Russian) Army is the strongest - I have no doubt.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: bald

Good evening Vitaliy. Greece has not fought too long, at least help her, but there is no experience. And the fact that the Red (Russian) Army is the strongest - I have no doubt.

Good Vladimir! Greece doesn’t have to fight, it’s up to them to provoke blood shed .. And there they will find someone and what to blow up and hold a rally. I hope our special services will not allow this and some will squeeze something, our task is to wrest Turkey from NATO, and there and Greece will .. And we will reconcile them later! Oh, dreams, dreams, but only in such a way .. Russia cannot be locked up and Putin is correctly looking for allies, albeit temporary .. Otherwise, they will destroy us, we are too uncomfortable with "some comrades in the world .."
And I also say the RUSSIAN ARMY OF ALL STRONG! This should not be forgotten and always remembered, so that they would not try to impress us .. The peoples of the world are hoping for Russia, again they will have to save PEACE .. eh

[bald]

That's right, harness for a long time, but then !!!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: bald

That's right, harness for a long time, but then !!!

Then everything will also be Vladimir ..!

The debt then remained ..

[bald]

I correctly understood about the favor - our shot down?

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: bald

I correctly understood about the favor - our shot down?

Think everything correctly .. But while silent ..

[Grits]

I agree, Mikhan - the Greeks stupidly work out debts.

[russia2016]

The only problem is that the Turks are holding two Greek officers prisoners, and the Greeks do not have prisoners, but there are six Turkish officers who fled from the Ertogan regime and asked for political asylum, if they are transferred to Turkey, then Greece will be immediately tried in The Hague as a country that does not comply human rights

[bald]

It is unfortunate that Greece listens to its master, who uses it when necessary and does not put anything into it. No offense.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: bald

It is unfortunate that Greece listens to its master, who uses it when necessary and does not put anything into it. No offense.

So everything in the world is Volodya .. But Russia, it will fix it, I’m sure .. Alexander of Macedon from those lands ..! Greece wake up ..

[bald]

Hi Vitaliy. Everything is like in a world order. Black is white, filthy is normal. And we have to breed for sure, no one else.

[kupitman]

What the hell? They are trying to hang a whole Boeing on us, but you were frightened by the 6 hague officers .... You have such pressure that you have never dreamed of.

[Sands Careers General]

She at least three times the NATO, but have graters from behind Cyprus, since the 70s. The Greeks snatched from the Turks notably, and now they will, if they butt.

[akims]

If the Greeks snatched out notably, then Cyprus would have been completely Turkish. And so, in fact, a draw.

[Sands Careers General]

I do not agree, the Turks took what they wanted. The conflict there was between the Turkish Cypriots and the Greeks. The Turks tore off exactly the territory where their fellow tribesmen live. Why do they need hemorrhoids in the form of Greeks in the south?

[assa67]

funny-bickering in NATO .. ​​although the "bickering" is said loudly ... the hegemon will bark at the Greeks (the Turks can put it ...) and everything will settle down: some will go to crack olives, others will smoke a hookah

[russia2016]

I immediately want to reassure the Russian "well-wishers" who dream of another war between Turkey and Greece, it will not be. Even if there will be some kind of conflict, Europeans, along with the Americans, will cut it down, nobody needs the third world war, since everyone knows that the Balkans is the powder keg of Europe. Ertogan will be thrown off, since this caricature character has already become all over the throat and in Turkey itself, including, he already imagines himself not knowing who - Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Stalin, openly declares some kind of new Ottoman Empire (in which he included Crimea for your information);)

[Gray brother]

Quote: russia2016

Even if there will be some kind of conflict, Europeans, along with the Americans, will cut it down, nobody needs the third world war, since everyone knows that the Balkans is the powder keg of Europe.

Last time, the Europeans "hacked" a lot? And now on the Cypriot shelf have found a lot of gas.

[russia2016]

Well? There is always a way out, the Greek Cypriots signed a contract with Exxon-Mobile, the Americans immediately sent a floating platform plus a bonus in the form of an entire aircraft carrier, and the Turks sharply pulled their tail and went home with their ships, no arguing against the boss. It’s they with heroes in Syria who fight with other people’s heroes only

[kupitman]

Between you, war is not possible in principle - you are allies. And your allies will not allow you to start fighting, plus the authorities in Brussels will threaten with a fist, and your authorities will definitely not go against them. So war is not possible in principle.
Russia does not have an alliance with Turkey and here our hands are free. They wanted and helped Erdogan overcome the crisis with a coup, our intelligence threw him the necessary information during the time. Now he has cleaned up the army, we need to solve the problem in Syria, it’s difficult without Turkey, and thanks to our diplomacy, we managed to put Iran and the Turks at a common negotiating table, which was previously not possible from the word at all.
And he can think of the empire as much as he wants, one day he can get a new coup ...
And personally, I love Greece, and the Greeks too. And in general I feel a certain thrill in front of your country.
But. As long as our interests coincide with Turkey, we will work with them whether the Greeks like it or not. We, unlike you, 27 allies do not and do not have an ally overseas. So that...

[Grits]

nobody needs a third world
You overestimate the global significance of your country. Or do you think that because of the conflict between Turkey and Greece, a world war will begin? Excuse me, but this is not the level of Russia, the USA and China.
For the rest, I agree with you - Americans with Europeans will bark at Turkey and yank at you - you will calm down very quickly.

[kupitman]

The issue of prisoners of war of the Greeks must be resolved through the authorities in NATO.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: kupitman

The issue of prisoners of war of the Greeks must be resolved through the authorities in NATO.

Yes dunk them and that's it .. All problems will be solved and Erdogan will be pleased!

[kupitman]

somehow very rude

[sib.ataman]

I don’t understand, the Ammerzavians didn’t release, sort of, Greece from the Nazis? How did they end up in NATO? Yes, in the same ranks with the "sworn" friends? Maybe friends should be chosen more carefully?

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: sib.ataman

I don’t understand, the Ammerzavians didn’t release, sort of, Greece from the Nazis? How did they end up in NATO? Yes, in the same ranks with the "sworn" friends? Maybe friends should be chosen more carefully?

Type in a search engine who rules the world ..
Russia jumped almost out of influence .. But the persecution is terrible!
The fifth column has not yet applied its last somersault in Russia .. let's get ready men!
Now the shopping center harness throughout Russia .. hehe

[Olegovi4]

from wiki - Civil war in Greece (Greek Ελληνικός Εμφύλιος Πόλεμος) (1946 - October 1949) - the first major armed conflict in Europe, which was preceded by the December events in Athens before the end of World War II and immediately after the liberation of Greece from German, Italian and Bulgarian occupiers.

Since the summer of 1946, the conflict took the form of a civil war between the pro-communist partisans and the government forces of the monarchical regime, focused on supporting the UK and the USA [7]. Geopolitically, the Civil War in Greece was the first round of the Cold War between Britain and the United States on the one hand, and the USSR and its allies on the other. The defeat of the Communists, whom the Soviet Union stopped providing assistance, ended with the so-called Percentage Agreement, which ultimately led to the entry of Greece and Turkey into NATO (1952) and the establishment of US influence in the Aegean to the very end [source not specified 407 days] cold war.