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China received the first C-400 set. True, while not all

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The first regimental anti-aircraft missile systems (ZRK) C-400 "Triumph" without auxiliary equipment delivered by two ships from the port of Ust-Luga to China, reports TASS, citing a military diplomatic source. The missing equipment that was previously damaged during transportation on the third vessel will be handed over to the customer in the summer.


China received the first C-400 set. True, while not all


Within the terms established by the contract, the first regimental set of C-400 was delivered by two vessels from the port of Ust-Luga of the Leningrad Region to China. It includes a command post, radar stations, launchers, power equipment and other assets. There is no equipment in its structure aboard the third vessel.
- Said the source agency.

In January, it became known that part of the equipment sent to China for C-400 was damaged due to a storm in the English Channel. The vessel returned to the port for fault detection of damaged equipment.

The FSMTC did not comment on the information provided by the source.


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  1. bazzbazz
    bazzbazz April 3 2018 11: 35
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    The later they receive, the later they will copy! just to pay)
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather April 3 2018 12: 06
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      Missing equipment previously damaged during transportation on the third ship will be transferred to the customer in summer
      ... but not this, and not all at once ... yes
    2. Locksmith
      Locksmith April 3 2018 13: 51
      +2
      Quote: bazzbazz
      The later they receive, the later they will copy! just to pay)

      They copied the mechanics a long time ago, software is more difficult to copy - the debugger will take more than one year of work of people who UNDERSTAND what they decode wink as they say, a flag in your hands and a drum on your neck No.
  2. svp67
    svp67 April 3 2018 11: 42
    +3
    The first regimental set of anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) S-400 Triumph without auxiliary equipment was delivered by two sea vessels from the port of Ust-Luga to China,
    MIRACLES .... And what do our defense workers do not trust the services of Russian Railways? Or did Russian Railways request too much? So it was possible to attract the BTA ...
    1. Cxnumx
      Cxnumx April 3 2018 11: 48
      +4
      Quote: svp67
      MIRACLES .... And what do our defense workers do not trust the services of Russian Railways? Or did Russian Railways request too much? So it was possible to attract the BTA ...

      it is not always possible to take away the overall cars on wagons: they didn’t pass into a tunnel and that’s all, immediately a lot of problems with transshipment, etc.
      it’s true that instead of the "lamb" they could send along the north-west route, they constantly blow the telly on him, so they would use it.
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 3 2018 11: 52
        +2
        Quote: K0
        it is not always possible to take away the overall cars on wagons: they didn’t pass into a tunnel and that’s all, immediately a lot of problems with transshipment, etc.

        And in case of war, will we transfer from theater to theater, will we do the same through Suez and the English Channel? Do not make me laugh. The Trans-Siberian Railway is quite accessible for the passage of our military echelons. What has been proven more than once.
        1. volodimer
          volodimer April 3 2018 12: 38
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          I agree with your and previous comment. Just some kind of nonsense. Directly heading for hostile voices: "S-400 is not suitable for transportation by rail" or "In case of aggression, Russia will not be able to transfer the S-400 inside its territory." Well, I do not believe that we can make trains with ICBMs in the given dimensions, but there is no air defense system.
          1. svp67
            svp67 April 3 2018 12: 50
            +2
            Quote: volodimer
            Directly heading for hostile voices: "S-400 is not suitable for transportation by rail" or "In case of aggression, Russia will not be able to transfer the S-400 inside its territory"

            The ability to transport and transport by rail is one of the CONDITIONS for taking any of our military equipment into service. Russia’s military equipment not capable of such transportation is simply not needed.
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon April 3 2018 13: 09
              +1
              Quote: svp67
              The ability to transport and transport by rail is one of the CONDITIONS for taking any of our military equipment into service. Russia’s military equipment not capable of such transportation is simply not needed.

              Try some sort of "Poplar" to upload to the railway platform.
              1. svp67
                svp67 April 3 2018 13: 29
                +3
                Quote: Piramidon
                Try some sort of "Poplar" to upload to the railway platform.

                Well, their division is loading ... control cars
                And everything else, with an ACCESS NEED, and so anywhere in the world will fly from anywhere in the Russian Federation
              2. andr327
                andr327 April 3 2018 15: 30
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                Not any problems with either Topol. nor with Yars during transportation.
        2. Cxnumx
          Cxnumx April 3 2018 13: 25
          +2
          Quote: svp67
          And in case of war, will we transfer from theater to theater, will we do the same through Suez and the English Channel? Do not make me laugh. The Trans-Siberian Railway is quite accessible for the passage of our military echelons. What has been proven more than once.

          here is a picture of the dimensions without a clue on what parameters could not pass, but the fact that not all of us travel by train (especially when assembled) is for sure.
          1. KVIRTU
            KVIRTU April 5 2018 09: 05
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            Look at 73N6 Baikal-1ME. At the limit of railway dimensions. This is auth. KP missile regiment.
            Railway for such transportation is expensive, there are speed limits, etc. Security issue: the train stopped at the stop, misses - it would be the property of the Moscow Region, the heater, the guard would be put up, and so at every stop.
            The contract with the Turks on the nose. Apparently Almaz-Antey has a long-term contract with the carrier. I won’t be surprised if these are generally their parades.
        3. Locksmith
          Locksmith April 3 2018 13: 55
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          Quote: svp67
          And in case of war, will we transfer from theater to theater, will we do the same through Suez and the English Channel?

          Most likely it’s just convenient - the “sticks and arrows” are not far from St. Petersburg, and clearly for the “partners”, such as transparently doing everything, the software is also apparently St. Petersburg.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA April 3 2018 13: 08
        +4
        Quote: K0
        it is not always possible to take away the overall cars on wagons: they didn’t pass into a tunnel and that’s all, immediately a lot of problems with transshipment, etc.

        What oversize can be for Russian Railways at the domestic air defense complex? In our country, all the equipment is designed based on the railway gauge.
        We do not have Henschel with his Tiger:
        - The designers were so carried away that they did not at all take into account the restrictions imposed by the transport infrastructure.
        - According to the release of the tank in the Third Reich in 1942, there was not a single railway platform capable of holding a mass of more than 50 tons.
        - The Henschel firm producing Tigers was initially the largest producer of railway equipment. But the civilian and military departments from the very beginning did not even think about cooperation on this topic.
        - When the first “Tigers” were riveted in Kassel, SUDDENLY it turned out that there was nothing to carry them.
        - Instead of releasing tanks, Henschel hastily begins to craft six-axis SSyms platforms developed on the knee in three days.
        - There are platforms, but now they forgot about the railway gauge, and the Tiger does not fit into it.
        - If the "Tiger" does not fit, there are problems with the alignment of the platform, if the loading is unsuccessful, the center of gravity shifts, increasing the likelihood of the platform toppling over on curvatures of a railway with a small radius.
        - The railway gauge can only be changed by re-gauging the track, expanding the tunnels, turning radius and, as a result, the predictable bankruptcy of Germany three days later.
        - All this is done by ONE, the company is Henschel-Werke. The same le-zno-do-ro-zh-naya firm. And he does it simultaneously, in the summer of 1942.
        © gunter-spb
    2. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt April 3 2018 11: 51
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      So it was possible to attract the BTA ...

      Or send an SMP to a caravan. They talk a lot about this, saturate the Arctic with troops and develop special weapons, but for some reason they don’t use it themselves.
      1. Locksmith
        Locksmith April 3 2018 13: 57
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        Quote: Thunderbolt
        Or send an ambulance caravan.

        It will turn out secretly - our "partners" do not see this path, why bother once again, the NSR is still a purely commercial path.
    3. Grandfather
      Grandfather April 3 2018 12: 07
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      Quote: svp67
      .. And that our defense industry does not trust the services of Russian Railways?

      CER is dangerous ... yes
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 3 2018 12: 12
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        Quote: Dead Day
        CER is dangerous ...

        she still has to try very hard to find
    4. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 3 2018 13: 28
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      So it was possible to attract the BTA ...

      The Ruslans delivered to Syria without any problems.
  3. andr327
    andr327 April 3 2018 11: 43
    +4
    The wonders of logistics! but not easier to send a piece of iron.
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 3 2018 12: 14
      +1
      Quote: andr327
      The wonders of logistics! but not easier to send a piece of iron.

      The Russian defense industry is not looking for simple ways ...
      1. Locksmith
        Locksmith April 3 2018 14: 03
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        Quote: svp67
        The Russian defense industry is not looking for simple ways

        Damn, well, they’ve already written a hundred times, they’ll do it mainly in St. Petersburg (software) and Kirov (guns), those who do something in addition to encryption are still. It’s more convenient to send from Peter through ass-so less suspicion, the NSR is a business with money, nichrome icebreakers do not feed on air, it’s necessary to pay back. Their tsatskis are transported through the NSR, this is sacred, their own !! laughing
    2. Locksmith
      Locksmith April 3 2018 14: 10
      +1
      Quote: andr327
      The wonders of logistics! but not easier to send a piece of iron.

      Have you ever been in the Baikal region where the tunnels start? It’s really difficult to push this mass of iron there, the SAM is a whole train, however, and some are oversized.
      1. andr327
        andr327 April 3 2018 15: 26
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        All our military equipment is made to the size of the railway. Sometimes it even worsens the combat characteristics, but the possibility of moving around the country remains.
        Well, 3-4 echelons can be done somehow in 2-3 days.
  4. NEXUS
    NEXUS April 3 2018 11: 46
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    An interesting question is which missiles we are selling with these Triumphs to China ... I doubt that it will be 40N6 ...
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather April 3 2018 12: 09
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      Quote: NEXUS
      An interesting question is which missiles we are selling with these Triumphs to China ... I doubt that it will be 40N6 ...

      S-125 ... wassat
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 3 2018 11: 52
    +1
    S-400 damaged due to a storm in the English Channel
    Strange, are they delivering our complexes from France or England? In short, as in the saying "to Moscow via Vladivostok." It would be interesting to look at the calculations for transportation.
  6. cormorant
    cormorant April 3 2018 11: 54
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    The question is who is responsible for the cargo after it is shipped on board the ship. If, under the agreement, these are Chinese comrades, then to replace the damaged equipment you have to pay the recipient of the cargo.
    1. Locksmith
      Locksmith April 3 2018 14: 05
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      Quote: cormorant
      Here the question is, who is responsible for the cargo after shipping it on board

      Once the goods were returned back, it’s clear, the sender. wink
  7. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman April 3 2018 12: 07
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    Those who are looking with files have already tried to cut off all unnecessary from their future missiles!
    1. Locksmith
      Locksmith April 3 2018 14: 07
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      Quote: sib.ataman
      Those who are looking with files have already tried to cut off all unnecessary from their future missiles!

      It doesn’t work out — they have already worked with a file, and now we need to work for mathematics academics, which is much more complicated. wink
  8. Shadow shooter
    Shadow shooter April 3 2018 12: 16
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    Looks like some of the equipment was urgently unloaded in Syria, and everyone was told that they broke in a storm wink