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American "friends" do not freeze Russian assets. Why?

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The day before, the American ambassador, John Huntsman, finally dispelled the illusion that Russian funds could and should be stored abroad, since it is “profitable and secure.” According to Huntsman, he personally does not exclude the possibility of the seizure of Russian assets in the United States of America. This is a plus to the fact that Russia already, excuse me, has wrung out diplomatic property, that according to all legal norms a definition of raider seizure at the state level can be worn?


The speech in the statement of the American ambassador was primarily about the Russian diplomatic property, although everyone was well aware of the possible presence of the United States and much more “Napoleon” plans for Russian assets. And these Russian assets contained in foreign currency, which is actually equivalent to the presence of Russian reserves under the Fed cap, by domestic standards are definitely not enough. We are talking about tens of billions of dollars that the United States, in principle, can “grab” at any time, guided by the classic arguments of the “new package of anti-Russian sanctions” series.

In this regard, it is difficult to respond with a definite positive message that the international reserves of Russia (MPD) by mid-March (16 number) rose to a record 3,5 billion dollars in the last year 455,4. Last week alone, MPP added $ 2,4 billion in weight. By comparison, before the economic crisis in 2008, Russia's international reserves were almost 600 billion (598), and the minimum minimum was observed in March, 2009, when MPR fell to $ 376 billion.

Why is it difficult to react to this information with an unambiguous positive? Because the lion's share of Russian reserves is stored not only in gold, which, it seems, is “in one's own”, but also in a whole range of foreign currencies, including the aforementioned dollar. And first of all it is in dollars.

American "friends" do not freeze Russian assets. Why?


Purely economically, everything seems to be more or less efficiently ... The Ministry of Finance conducted a series of operations, the result of which was a certain profit. Currencies showed growth, and, accordingly, the reserve part, too. However, even here it is not everywhere. Thus, the closing of the Eurobond deal in the amount of $ 4 billion brought 3,2 billion in revenue, but all these proceeds immediately had to be used to repurchase previously issued securities (debentures), which in the end practically did not change the total amount of the RF gold reserves.

And in modern conditions, economic laws have received more than a significant coefficient of political amendment. This is a “coefficient”, which actually shows how politically insolent one can be with respect to one or another competitor on the world market, so that issues of any kind of competition can be resolved through overt restrictions (sanctions). And who in this world bothers more and more to others, once again, to mention, I think, to nothing - it is understandable and without reminders.

So what is the structure of Russian reserves? According to statistics, at the beginning of 2018, the share of Russian gold and foreign currency assets denominated in US dollars was almost 47%. In euro - 25%. The British pound sterling accounts for about 8%, the Canadian dollar - a little more than 3%, the Australian dollar - 1%. The Chinese yuan is “trusted” by 0,1% of the total reserve. The rest is gold, whose share in recent years has gained weight. In other words, the reserves of the Russian Federation in dollars are almost three times more than the reserves in the precious metal.

Translating into absolute numbers, you can get that in the dollar mass of Russia today already holds more than 200 billion dollars. True, who exactly “holds” these funds is a separate question. And when they say that this is a kind of payment from Russia to the United States, then, at first glance, this is an absurd statement, today it does not look so ridiculous.

Now the question is: will the United States allow itself to freeze Russian (at least dollar) assets? Still, it's about 200 billions of gray-green.

They can allow it, but in reality - why does Washington need such a “freeze”? After all, if Russia could actually dispose of these funds (well, or even more “tangible” - the Russian people), then the American partners would have long ago frozen Russia's financial “assets” produced, well, or at least not together, but partially ... But even Against the background of truly transcendental hysteria, there is no hint, except for Huntsman’s statement on diplomatic property, from the US

They are plagued by vague doubts: they are not talking about the freezing of Russian dollar assets in the States for one reason only - for a long time Russia has not been able to independently dispose of these assets. Something from a series of German gold reserves, which has been stored for decades in the United States. De jure - on “storage”, de facto, there is a version of experts that this German gold has not been in nature for a long time, well, or, even if something is left of it, it’s definitely not for the Germans to dispose of it.

Why, then, talk about freezing assets in the form of diplomatic property? And because this property actually belongs to the Russian Federation, and the Russian Federation is still free to dispose of it at its discretion.

Another issue is that all new Russian receipts (from the state or individual money bags) into the American economy may well turn out to be "attached to the case." The reason will be found as a recent example with Kazakhstan, when Nursultan Abishevich had to urgently fly to an audience with Trump. There it was, like, about 22 billions of dollars. The essence and the result of the negotiations is still under a veil of fog. Who now has these 22 billion is a big "Kazakhstan" question. Or not Kazakhstani ...

In general, the well-known phrase “Keep money in the savings bank” has played up to our time with new colors, especially in relation to those who have something to keep ... Here’s just one caveat: this “savings bank” would not work exactly on behalf of and on behalf of the Fed.
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  1. solovald
    solovald 30 March 2018 06: 10
    +31
    The late Z. Brzezinski was a wise politician - "... you still figure it out: is it your elite or already ours? ..."
  2. Evdokim
    Evdokim 30 March 2018 06: 15
    +6
    According to Huntsman, he personally does not rule out the possibility of seizing Russian assets in the United States of America.

    Translating into absolute numbers, we can get that Russia currently holds more than $ 200 billion in the dollar mass.

    Russia has long been unable to independently dispose of these assets. Something from a series of German gold reserves that has been “stored” in the United States for decades. De jure - in “storage”, de facto, there is a version of experts that this German gold has not been in nature for a long time, well, or, even if there is something left from it, then it’s definitely not for the Germans to dispose of it.

    So, keep your money on the Field of Miracles. Maybe you are lucky and they will not be taken away. Of course, I understand that economics is a schmikanomics, but how can you trust outright villains who rob even their "type of allies." hi
    1. Titsen
      Titsen 30 March 2018 06: 54
      +6
      Quote: Evdokim
      According to Huntsman, he personally does not rule out the possibility of seizing Russian assets in the United States of America.

      Translating into absolute numbers, we can get that Russia currently holds more than $ 200 billion in the dollar mass.

      Russia has long been unable to independently dispose of these assets. Something from a series of German gold reserves that has been “stored” in the United States for decades. De jure - in “storage”, de facto, there is a version of experts that this German gold has not been in nature for a long time, well, or, even if there is something left from it, then it’s definitely not for the Germans to dispose of it.

      So, keep your money on the Field of Miracles. Maybe you are lucky and they will not be taken away. Of course, I understand that economics is a schmikanomics, but how can you trust outright villains who rob even their "type of allies." hi


      The article is about nothing at all!

      BIG AND BOLD MINUS!

      ESPECIALLY HEADLINE!
      1. d ^ Amir
        d ^ Amir 30 March 2018 09: 43
        +11
        let me ask .. and on the basis of which minus then ???? and why is the article about anything ???? it is possible more expanded please ??? Doomsday counter (US public debt):
        [media = http: //webdiscover.ru/v/22301]
        as I understand it, debt repayment is not planned ... robbery is planned ...
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 30 March 2018 23: 07
        +2
        Quote: Titsen
        The article is about nothing at all!
        BIG AND BOLD MINUS!
        ESPECIALLY HEADLINE!

        I agree. Article - Hat. The United States, of course, lost its shores and messed up the rams, but not so much as to chop the branch on which they are sitting. Freezing such assets will automatically push potential investors into American waste paper. China alone has 1 trillion. 100 billion in American securities. I don’t think that it needs a motive to transfer these money to other assets due to the loss of confidence in the US currency and, in general, in the current dollar financial system. No, the fact that in speed this system will be subject to revision and possibly to reform is clear as God's day. Not for nothing today is the purchase of precious metals. But the Americans, as it were, are not “camillo” themselves to accelerate the process of abandoning the dollar. Although ..... if this can help destroy the system and reset the 21 trillion debt to creditors, then why not. But again, in this case, Russia has secured more than 1800 tons of gold.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 31 March 2018 13: 04
          +1
          Nyrobsky (Dmitriy)
          I agree. The article is a hat.

          No, the article is not a “hat”! Namely.
          Americans, as it were, are not "camillo" to accelerate the process of abandoning the dollar. Although ..... if this can help to destroy the system and nullify 21 trillion debt to creditors, then why not.

          The fact of the matter is that it is precisely this policy of private-owned bankers of the US Federal Reserve that, in fact, is oriented!
          By the way, historically it was from exactly the same promise that WWII and WWII began, which precisely allowed the Rothschild clan in the privately owned US Federal Reserve to completely reformat the world in its favor - namely, in favor of world domination of its financial products - primarily in favor of the “American "The dollar.
          It is precisely this same thing that is being sought again and now by the financial usurious bigwigs of the US Fed! And it would be naive to think that they will not do it!
          Not for nothing today is the purchase of precious metals. But again, in this case, Russia has secured more than 1800 tons of gold.
          Dmitry! Do not be naive! There is practically no this gold in physical form in Russia, just as Germany does not have it in Germany itself.
          For Now all gold purchases are, as a rule, VIRTUAL in nature. Namely, purchased gold is practically not physically transported from place to place from seller to buyer. Therefore, gold physically remains there, in the country where it lay - only with re-registration of its owner.
          As a result of this, the exact same scenario as with the raider seizure of the Russian national reserve in foreign currency from the US banks by the US Federal Reserve System is quite possible with the raider seizure of the national Russian reserve in gold abroad - similar to the situation with German gold in the US banks.
          So, buying gold will not save Russia either. But on a manipulative plane, the information on gold purchases by the Central Bank of Russia really very comfortably soothingly blinds the truth to the Russian layman in terms of his recognition of the threat to his national security!
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 31 March 2018 17: 25
            +1
            Quote: Tatiana
            more than 1800 tons of gold.
            Dmitry! Do not be naive! There is practically no this gold in physical form in Russia, just as Germany does not have it in Germany itself.
            For now, all purchases of gold are, as a rule, VIRTUAL in nature. Namely, purchased gold is practically not physically transported from place to place from seller to buyer. Therefore, gold physically remains there, in that country, where it lay - only with the re-registration of its owner.
            As a result of this, the exact same scenario as with the raider seizure of the Russian national reserve in foreign currency from the US banks by the US Federal Reserve System is quite possible with the raider seizure of the national Russian reserve in gold abroad - similar to the situation with German gold in the US banks.

            In this case, you are wrong Tatyana. All the gold in the indicated tons is found in bars i.e. in physical condition. Turnover operations of depersonalized precious metals are a toy for banks when they collect margins from the difference in the rate of buying and selling virtual gold, the rate of which is set by the London Exchange. The main purchases of gold in Russia are carried out in the domestic market from our gold mines. The other day, a “bombing” of the runway in one of the regions of Yakutia was carried out with real, rather than virtual, gold bars. All physical gold is stored on the territory of Russia in Kazan, St. Petersburg and Moscow, which makes our “partners” very angry because they can’t put a paw on this asset worth $ 80 billion.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 31 March 2018 17: 34
              +1
              You are talking about gold mining in Russia, and I'm talking about buying gold on the side - in other countries that the Central Bank of Russia carries out. The lion's share of this "Russian" gold is located abroad in foreign banks.
    2. Cube123
      Cube123 30 March 2018 07: 00
      +13
      Quote: Evdokim
      So, keep your money on the Field of Miracles. Maybe you are lucky and they will not be taken away. Of course, I understand that economics is schmikanomics, but how can you trust outright villainswho rob even their "type of allies." hi

      No one trusts. Americans, if they arrest assets, then countries with a positive asset balance. And Russia today owes more than $ 100 billion than it has in its assets. What is the point of arresting? The very same money? laughing
      Conclusion: if you owe a little, these are your problems, if a lot, then your lender has problems.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 30 March 2018 07: 17
        +4
        Quote: Cube123
        And Russia today owes more than $ 100 billion.

        Who?
        But if it should, then pendosy is still in the positive for 100 yards of greenery. request and when freezing, they win, because 100 yards from the entire mass of greenery disappear. For the same reason, they exponentially burned the money of Colombian drug lords. I explain - breaking a five-thousandth note, you do not destroy it, you give it to the state. hi
        1. Cube123
          Cube123 30 March 2018 07: 20
          +3
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          I explain - breaking a five-thousandth note, you do not destroy it, you give it to the state. hi

          Right! By freezing Russia's dollar assets, they will give Russia $ 100 billion.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 30 March 2018 07: 30
            +4
            Quote: Cube123
            Right! By freezing Russia's dollar assets, they will give Russia $ 100 billion.

            Wrong. Breaking the pound, you give it to the UK, because she is the issuer of the pound. Same thing with dollars. hi
            1. Cube123
              Cube123 30 March 2018 07: 33
              +3
              Quote: Ingvar 72

              Wrong. Breaking the pound, you give it to the UK, because she is the issuer of the pound. Same thing with dollars. hi

              And no one is going to vomit. Let them admire their dollars themselves laughing
              I’m talking about something else: by freezing Russia's assets, they give a legal basis for Russia not to pay debts. True, this is a war, but there is no benefit for the United States.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 30 March 2018 07: 49
                +6
                Quote: Cube123
                they give a legal basis for Russia not to pay debts.

                We will still be forced to sell oil and gas for a dollar, ensuring its stability in the global foreign exchange market.
                1. Cube123
                  Cube123 30 March 2018 07: 54
                  +5
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Quote: Cube123
                  they give a legal basis for Russia not to pay debts.

                  We will still be forced to sell oil and gas for a dollar, ensuring its stability in the global foreign exchange market.

                  And who said that? Is this the law? If dollars are frozen, it is entirely possible to receive Euros from Europe, and Yuan from China. What are the legal prohibitions for this?
                  But the United States will lose. This will reduce the world's dollar turnover. And this will lead to a loss of commissions and a decrease in the role of the dollar in world trade. Therefore, they will not be arrested. It is not profitable for them.
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 30 March 2018 08: 22
                    +6
                    Quote: Cube123
                    . Therefore, they will not be arrested. It is not profitable for them.

                    Iranian holdings also froze a considerable amount of $ 50 billion.
                    In an interview with RBC yesterday, the US ambassador said about Russian monetary assets in both the US and England that both Democrats and Congress conservatives are very determined.
                    1. Mih1974
                      Mih1974 30 March 2018 12: 02
                      +3
                      What are you saying :) :). And what about the US "assets" in Russia, for example, the "vomiting" of McDonads, the burger, the seized final processing, food and oil refining industries, and what about extraction and processing? lol Oh, and if you recall "Salalin-1", 2,3,4 repeat whose ears stick out there? Oh - matasses (walked, etc.), and British Petroleum has already managed to sell off all the assets in Russia - sho, failed, well, so "we will only be grateful" tongue By the way, the “seizure” of an air ship — this is only an act of terrorism for individuals, but for states — it’s much worse, because it’s just War. Yes, yes, it’s war, because airplanes are like ships (and, of course, embassies) - there is the territory of another state. bully Even the lawlessness with the consulate in the US they had the mind first - to remove the status of the consulate and only then climb into it with dirty feet. So we’ll hijack our plane — with a clear conscience we declare “England declared war on us — well now it’s our own fault” and erase them below the level of the Atlantic Ocean with nuclear weapons. good Indicative and cruel. Driving — it will be, but it’s not long to play sick against Russia “kicked” by Russia, of course it’s fun, but to be alone with a furious bear in the field (nose to nose) is no longer funny, but “peaceful”, in the sense that you are a dead man .
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                1. NF68
                  NF68 30 March 2018 16: 13
                  +1
                  Quote: Vladimir 5
                  You do not compare the serf (RF) with the owner (USA) in relation to the dollar. The slave is dependent and can only obey or squander the whims of the received debt receipts ...


                  Do you personally come from any ancient clan and lackeys?
                2. Andrey K
                  Andrey K 30 March 2018 16: 39
                  +6
                  Quote: Vladimir 5
                  ... You do not compare the serf (RF) with the owner (USA) in relation to the dollar. The slave is dependent and can only obey or push up on a whim hostess received debt receipts ...

                  You are in my opinion. Whose will you be, serf?
                  Literacy, the owner did not deign to teach you?
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 30 March 2018 07: 41
            +12
            Quote: Cube123
            And Russia today owes more than $ 100 billion than it has in its assets. What is the point of arresting? The very same money? laughing
            Conclusion: if you owe a little, these are your problems, if a lot, then your lender has problems.

            If you are so smart, tell this to the president of Kazakhstan! That's the "naive" Nursultan Bashi! He would have to take it and not pay his debts, but he, like a “crazy”, trumped Trump to persuade his money to unfreeze.
            Do not be so simplistic, we all went through arithmetic, but in life it doesn’t always work out, take it out and add it here. If the United States arrests money from Russia, this does not mean that Russia itself will do the same.
            Quote: Cube123
            The external debt of the Russian Federation as of January 1, 2018, according to preliminary estimates of the Bank of Russia, amounted to $ 529,1 billion

            External debt is understood as the total external debt of residents of the Russian Federation (commercial and state structures). Why did you mix the debt of businessmen and sovereign state debt in a heap?
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 30 March 2018 07: 45
              +9
              Quote: Stas157
              If you are so smart ... Don't be so simplistic

              Staseg, stop hysteria, fly away to the bathhouse again stop
              Quote: Stas157
              we all went through arithmetic

              But you stopped at it, the campaign.
              My condolences yes
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 30 March 2018 07: 55
                +14
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Staseg, stop hysteria, fly away to the bathhouse again

                Kisa, don't you tell me about this! Already on the "baths" then you are the first specialist.
                Yes! And where did you find the tantrum? Just look hysterical, judging how painfully you react to my comments.
                Quote: Cube123
                Are you smarter than the Central Bank of the Russian Federation? tongue
                I gave a link to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. As he believes, it is.

                Sorry that I dared to correct you, but in this case it is more appropriate to bring the sovereign debt of the state, and not the general external, as you did.
            2. Cube123
              Cube123 30 March 2018 07: 47
              +3
              Quote: Stas157

              If you are so smart, tell this to the president of Kazakhstan!

              There, the arrest is not state, but commercial. Do not confuse.
              Quote: Stas157

              External debt is understood as the total external debt of residents of the Russian Federation (commercial and state structures). Why did you mix the debt of businessmen and sovereign state debt in a heap?

              Are you smarter than the Central Bank of the Russian Federation? tongue
              I gave a link to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. As he believes, it is.
            3. forty-eighth
              forty-eighth 30 March 2018 10: 38
              0
              Quote: Stas157
              External debt is understood as the total external debt of residents of the Russian Federation (commercial and state structures). Why did you mix the debt of businessmen and sovereign state debt in a heap?

              And the debt of commercial structures is not the duty of merchants?
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            1. V. Salama
              V. Salama 30 March 2018 18: 44
              0
              PS Yes, I understood where I did not understand - I owe you $ 300, but what does this change, adhering to this logic?
        2. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 30 March 2018 07: 21
          +7
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          But if it should, then pendosy are still in positive territory for 100 yards of greenery

          Md recourse
          Quote: Cube123
          Russia today owed more than $ 100 billion than it has in its assets ...

          ... those that the States can "arrest", that is.
          And where did you see the "DOS-plus stump" here?
          You should read to learn first ... and then write to start yes
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 30 March 2018 07: 46
            +6
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            You should read to learn first ... and then write to start

            Pussycat - if a person has nothing to be clever, then his attempts are at least ridiculous. wink Take an interest in the structure of external debts of Russia and the USA.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 30 March 2018 07: 48
              +7
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Take an interest in the structure of external debts of Russia and the USA

              What the fuck? It's about the ratio of the external debt of the Russian Federation and assets that evil Americans may “arrest” ...
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              if a person has nothing to be clever, then his attempts are at least ridiculous

              Under the "man" you obviously have yourself?
              Well, progress, however ... even to the plus ... Osia laughing
              Quote: Romulus
              Ingvar72 I'm not talking about you

              But in vain, my friend, in vain wink
              1. Romulus
                Romulus 30 March 2018 07: 52
                +3
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                even the plus ... Osia

                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Kisa - if a person has nothing to be clever

                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 30 March 2018 07: 53
                  +4
                  Exactly. A plus fellow
              2. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 30 March 2018 07: 54
                +7
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Under the "man" you obviously have yourself?

                Of course Kisa, I don’t associate myself with either a tree or a dog! wink I’m silent about cats. laughing
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                It's about the ratio of the external debt of the Russian Federation and assets that evil Americans may “arrest” ...

                We need to talk either about the ratio of government debt to state assets, or about total external debt and total external assets. wink
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 30 March 2018 07: 56
                  +4
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  We need to talk either about the ratio of government debt to state assets, or about total external debt and total external assets

                  Do not aggravate your already uncomfortable position.
                  You said stupidity. I told you that, ahem.
                  Relive silently stop
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 30 March 2018 08: 01
                    +7
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Relive silently

                    As usual Kis, no facts, just cliches. I already told you - the economy is not yours. laughing Moreover, you do not see the difference between public debt and external debt.
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 30 March 2018 10: 13
                      +5
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      you do not see the difference between public debt and external debt

                      What I see and what is not is not given to you to know wink
                      There is no specific difference in this case. From the word "general".
                      If you do not understand this, then really
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      the economy is not yours
                      1. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 30 March 2018 11: 55
                        +3
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        What I see and what is not is not given to you to know

                        You are like a capter from the movie "DMB"! good He sat on the same hallucinogenic. laughing
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        There is no specific difference in this case. From the word "general".

                        I told you, Kisa - the economy is not yours at all! wink
          2. Romulus
            Romulus 30 March 2018 07: 48
            +3
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            You should read to learn first ... and then write to start

            Chukchi is not a reader - Chukchi is a writer .. Ingvar72 hi I'm not talking about you, so I had to)
        3. asv363
          asv363 31 March 2018 02: 11
          +3
          I explain - breaking a five-thousandth note, you do not destroy it, you give it to the state.

          Previously (in the zero years), certain branches of Sberbank were required to accept "scraps" if more than 50% of the area was preserved on one of them, but at a discount.
        4. asv363
          asv363 31 March 2018 03: 44
          +3
          Ingvar 72
          I explain - breaking a five-thousandth note, you do not destroy it, you give it to the state.

          If more than 50% of the banknote’s area is preserved, then you can safely restore it in Sberbank by exchanging it for the whole, not without a discount by itself. Shabby dollars are also changed there, also not for free.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 March 2018 08: 33
        +2
        Russia's national debt is currently 57 billion.
    3. Cube123
      Cube123 30 March 2018 07: 17
      +1
      Quote: From the article
      Now the question is: will the United States allow itself to freeze Russian (at least dollar) assets? Still, it's about 200 billion "Gray-green."

      Fresh data from the Central Bank of the Russian Federation http://www.cbr.ru/statistics/?ch=itm_43401&pr
      tid = svs # CheckedItem
      "The external debt of the Russian Federation as of January 1, 2018, according to preliminary estimates of the Bank of Russia, amounted to $ 529,1 billion, compared with the beginning of 2017, it increased by $ 15,0 billion, or 2,9%. Growth external debt was due to the acquisition by foreign investors of sovereign debt securities denominated in Russian rubles, as well as the attraction of debt financing from foreign related structures of Russian companies.The external debt of banks, on the contrary, decreased to the minimum level over the past decade.
      January 19, 2018 "
      Given the geography of location

      and Russian assets http://www.cbr.ru/publ/Obzor/2018-01_res.pdf $ 417 billion, we can’t talk more than about
      $ 112 billion. (27% of total assets) placed in the United States.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 30 March 2018 07: 43
        +3
        Quote: Cube123
        amounted to 529,1 billion dollars

        This is a common debt, not a state debt. Government debt is only 51 billion dollars in the spring of 2017.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 30 March 2018 07: 52
          +8
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          This is a common debt, not a state debt.

          Cool. When it is profitable for you, you are willing to add these two amounts.
          And now it’s profitable for you to separate them wink
          You specifically have already reported, dear request
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 30 March 2018 08: 18
            +3
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            When it’s profitable for you, you are happy to add these two amounts

            When is this? belay Remember Kitty - they can be added in the case when ALL EXTERNAL debts are compared, and not external with the state. fool
        2. Cube123
          Cube123 30 March 2018 08: 02
          +2
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          This is a common debt, not a state debt. Government debt is only 51 billion dollars in the spring of 2017.

          And what does that change? Or do you think that the State should allow bankruptcy and pay for pennies Gazprom, Sberbank, Rosneft, Alrosa and further down the list ...

          Igor, it doesn’t matter who should. If the debt is dollar, then it will have to be covered in dollars purchased by the debtor from the State. And for this, the State must have them in their assets. If the State does not have dollars, then what can it sell? This is the ABC of economics.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 30 March 2018 08: 07
            +3
            Quote: Cube123
            need to allow bankruptcy

            If Rosneft goes round, oil wells will not stop pumping oil. wink If you remember, Rosneft created another company based on YUKOS
            Quote: Cube123
            Igor, it doesn’t matter who should.

            Important Andrey. You can not compare the entire external debt of Russia to the United States only with US public debt to Russia. hi
            1. Cube123
              Cube123 30 March 2018 08: 28
              0
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Quote: Cube123
              need to allow bankruptcy

              If Rosneft goes round, oil wells will not stop pumping oil. wink

              Download will not stop wink Only priorities for companies will be set by completely different people. Imagine this situation for a second. The new owner says: "I decided to shut the wells for several years." Who can ban it? He will receive his profit from other companies due to rising oil prices. But the budget of Russia will remain without tax revenues. Plus a bunch of unemployed and stop related industries. What is not the basis for a change of power in the country? Avoid one-time reasoning.
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Important Andrey. You can not compare the entire external debt of Russia to the United States only with US public debt to Russia. hi

              Need to!!! See the story. With a period of 10-15 years, the United States includes a "dollar vacuum cleaner." The point is that at first there is a period of "cheap" dollar. The dust scatters. All get into dollar loans. Then comes the tightening of the policy, and there is not enough dollars for repaying loans and interest on them! Next is the period of massive bankruptcies and the taking of property. The scheme has been repeated so many times that no one wants to step on it.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 March 2018 06: 25
    +3
    they don’t talk about freezing Russia's dollar assets in the United States for one single reason - these assets Russia has long been unable to dispose of independently
    That sounds pretty weird. Then what is the point of all this venture - to give their money for “eternal storage” in the United States, so that they use them for their own purposes? I think the profitability of such an enterprise cannot be simply explained even by the "egg-headed" liberals entrenched in the government.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 30 March 2018 07: 41
      +7
      Quote: rotmistr60
      ... what is the point of this whole undertaking ...

      Repeatedly (dvzh here) has already been written - to ensure foreign trade transactions, in particular. Like "pocket money," in simple words.
      If you look at the change in the volume of "Russian" treasures over the last 5 to 10 years, it is easy to see that this volume remains practically unchanged. Something "comes", something "leaves" ... almost like in my right outer pocket of my jacket laughing
      And there is no need to look for any subtexts here - as long as the dollar is the universally recognized currency of international, ahem, mutual settlements, there will be reserves in dollars and reserves in treasures.
      There is nothing wrong here (c) yes
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 30 March 2018 08: 22
        +2
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        There is nothing wrong here (c)

        That latno? belay Why doesn’t the USA provide trade deals with Russia by investing in GKO of Russia? wink
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 30 March 2018 10: 01
          +5
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Why doesn’t the USA provide trade deals with Russia by investing in GKO of Russia?

          You, in fact, yourself have already answered yourself, in general terms:
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          the economy is not yours

          Specifically, on your question, the United States simply does not need to “ensure trade deals with Russia by investing ...”, since the calculations are carried out on them ... in bucks, oddly enough.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 30 March 2018 12: 02
            +1
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            You, in fact, yourself have already answered yourself, in general terms:

            Orange jacket switchman in the studio! good
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            since the calculations are made on them ... in bucks, oddly enough.

            So what? belay As always in your repertoire, you are talking about Thomas, you are talking about Yerema .. Talk about mutual support of transactions, and not the currency in which transactions take place! fool
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 30 March 2018 12: 36
              +5
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              since the calculations are made on them ... in bucks, oddly enough.

              So what? : belay

              And then fool
              Americans do not need to "provide" anything. Since the buck is the universally recognized currency for international payments. And they have enough bucks.
              So - more understandable?
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              A conversation about mutual securing transactions, not the currency in which transactions take place

              Not about anything about the "mutual."
              The purchase of something of the Russian Federation, for dollars, requires the presence of dollars (or something that can be quickly converted into them) from the Russian Federation.
              For the USA this is not required, why - see above.
              Economization, Mlyn.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 30 March 2018 18: 36
                0
                Kisa, the issue of the ruble is already pegged to the dollar. So why unilateral security in the form of a purchase of US treasuries? fool
    2. Alekseev
      Alekseev 30 March 2018 07: 43
      +4
      [quote = rotmistr60] Sounds pretty weird [/ quote]
      The topic is serious and, for full understanding, requires much more knowledge and information, often very confidential, than given in the article.
      Why is it stored in US debt securities? Well, it’s really profitable interest is paid without delay. Can they arrest? Here we need to look, perhaps there are impersonal assets, bearer assets, so to speak. But this is probably not the main thing. The USA, which has a colossal public debt, is extremely unprofitable for any scandals on this topic, because this is a long-term undermining of confidence in the financial system In addition, the arrest of only part of the gold reserves of the Russian Federation will not yield a result, and the crisis may cause a serious one, for, as was rightly noted:
      [quote = Kubik123] The external debt of the Russian Federation as of January 1, 2018, according to preliminary estimates of the Bank of Russia, amounted to $ 529,1 billion [/ quote]
      And the seizure of assets may well trigger such a measure as a moratorium on the return of debts to countries and banks recognizing such an arrest. request
      And it rushed ... over the bumps, because [quote = Mountain shooter] That's the whole problem - any bank exists ON TRUST. No trust - no bank. And there is no financial system.
      1. SPACE
        SPACE 30 March 2018 08: 20
        0
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Repeatedly (dvzh here) has already been written ....

        Quote: Alekseev
        Why is it stored in US debt securities? ....

        hi good It is always nice to read sober and adequate people.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 30 March 2018 08: 24
          +1
          Inadequate people consider each other adequate! wink
          1. SPACE
            SPACE 30 March 2018 10: 15
            0
            It is better to be adequate Inadequate than how you are inadequate Adequate.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 30 March 2018 12: 03
              +3
              Quote: SPACE
              Better to be adequate Inadequate than how you are inadequate Adequately

              There is always a third option. Better to be just an adequate person. hi
              1. SPACE
                SPACE 30 March 2018 14: 36
                +2
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                There is always a third option. Better to be just an adequate person.

                I agree, it's a pity that you are not one of them. hi
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 30 March 2018 18: 40
                  +1
                  The fool never recognizes the clever as clever.
                  Ps. Learn to stab politely. wink
                  1. SPACE
                    SPACE 30 March 2018 22: 09
                    +1
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    The fool never recognizes the clever as clever.

                    laughing Oh yo yo, scared, I don’t need your recognitionlol
  4. samarin1969
    samarin1969 30 March 2018 07: 02
    +1
    This is all you need to know about the "sovereignty" of the "RF".
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 March 2018 07: 02
    +5
    This topic has been going on for a long time ... Therefore, we are buying gold. To finally break this dollar dependence ... Where are the gold reserves of Russia really located? Partially - in Amer’s papers ... And where is YOUR money when you have only a bank card in your pocket?
    This is the whole problem - any bank exists IN TRUST. No trust - no bank. And there is no financial system.
  6. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 30 March 2018 08: 40
    +1
    Yes, our economists have clearly begun to diversify. The wrong gentlemen lay out on the wrong shelves!
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 30 March 2018 14: 29
      0
      And the rest of the world on those shelves laid out, or do we have some other economy?
      Where do you keep the money? In a bank that can close or just take your money away or under the pillow?
  7. Nix1986
    Nix1986 30 March 2018 09: 03
    0
    Yes, because it is not profitable for them, it can not be profitable for political reasons, for economic reasons, etc. In this situation, a number of factors. You can put pressure on a neighbor to a certain limit until this pressure affects you too. This is what we see.
  8. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 30 March 2018 09: 38
    +2
    Alex, it will be a blow! I'm talking about freezing assets. But apparently such a blow is needed so that our government begins to move or the people begin to move on the re-election of this government. Any crises make us stronger ... unless they kill us of course.
  9. BAI
    BAI 30 March 2018 09: 40
    +1
    And how much money state institutions keep in offshore! Look, when Cyprus shook, what a noise!
  10. Ascetic
    Ascetic 30 March 2018 10: 19
    +6
    Our share in American dollars is so small that all these conversations, as they say in favor of the poor, Russia ranks 15-16th in the world between Belgium and Korea by this indicator. First of all, Americans need to look at China, which owns a trillion at least and, together with Japan, holds more than half of American papers ..
    The main thing is not how much money is held in American currency, but the whole system of international trade based on the overwhelming superiority of the dollar. If we gradually reduce the role of the dollar, which is approximately 2 \ 3 relative to other currencies, respectively, its role in the structure of gold and foreign currency reserves will decrease. If now on the exchanges most of the transactions are made in American currency, it is naturally more profitable to keep most of the gold reserves in dollars rather than in RMB
    Recently, the Chinese announced trading in oil for the yuan on the Shanghai Stock Exchange. This indicated China’s claim to create "oil yuan" as a competitor to the petrodollar and to turn Shanghai into a center of world pricing in the energy market.
    It is petrodollar that is the basis of the US financial power. It is trade for dollars that allows them to print money for themselves and use it for their own economy, and the inflationary effect of these actions is spread throughout the world. This is the basis for the well-being of US citizens and the conditional West, the same Britain there is practically someone else's money taken out and exchange trading. So it turns out like in a joke, they eat and drink, and our liver hurts in the form of inflation and crises. Only a gradual abandonment of trade for dollars will allow you to get out of this hole.
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 30 March 2018 14: 31
      0
      Quote: Ascetic
      If you gradually reduce the role of the dollar

      And why is this currency worse than others?
  11. cedar
    cedar 30 March 2018 11: 10
    +2
    This article is a cold shower for those who continue to fervently believe and talk about Russia as a sovereign power, and about its Government, as about “ours”, and not about the colonial, established by the metropolis - the USA.
    Sovereignty. Russia. Putin!
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 30 March 2018 14: 32
      0
      Quote: cedar
      The government, as about "ours", and not about the colonial, established by the metropolis - the USA.

      And who exactly did Trump choose Putin?
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 30 March 2018 18: 42
      +1
      Cedar - no need to try to be an oak. It was Putin who created this system.
      1. cedar
        cedar 30 March 2018 19: 36
        +1
        Think appoletically, dear, think appoletically ...
  12. Mih1974
    Mih1974 30 March 2018 12: 11
    +1
    Quote: Cube123
    The new owner says: "I decided to shut the wells for several years."

    You just - (and don’t heal), Well, what kind of idiot should you consider if the Kremlin issues a decree “not to pay debts to American firms and organizations (banks)” then will Rosneft go bankrupt and there will be some new owner? fool To begin with, bankrupt - can only be the camp in which these firms are registered !! So, if the Russian authorities do not bankrupt any company themselves, then it can spit on external claims tongue So - immediately sweep away the "new owner".
    Now, on the property of America in Russia - I already wrote above that for such chaos as the arrest (freezing) of Russia's assets in the United States, the Kremlin - will take away (freeze) ALL assets of Americans, British and any country that it considers hostile in Russia for two times. good And this is the Sakhalin -1, 2, 3, 4 gas project, this is another production, this is a huge number of enterprises that the Americans partially or fully own tongue "Komon, baby, Komon" good . That is, it will be taken away what was essentially stolen from Russia in 90 good . Suck americos, and soak bully
    PySy: moders finally fix your black sheet the word "prich_mokivat" is chopped !!! fool
  13. Dashing
    Dashing 30 March 2018 12: 30
    0
    There is a lot of noise, the country is losing a lot of money, everything is in a state of excitement, people are impoverished, the economy is sagging. And only those who transferred dollar assets to accounts in the US are smiling quietly. They got their kickbacks, they feel good and they spat on Russia, and on us. Does the Guarantor know about them? What is going to do, or as always nothing.
  14. Wolverine
    Wolverine 30 March 2018 13: 04
    +2
    Quote: Titsen
    Quote: Evdokim
    According to Huntsman, he personally does not rule out the possibility of seizing Russian assets in the United States of America.

    Translating into absolute numbers, we can get that Russia currently holds more than $ 200 billion in the dollar mass.

    Russia has long been unable to independently dispose of these assets. Something from a series of German gold reserves that has been “stored” in the United States for decades. De jure - in “storage”, de facto, there is a version of experts that this German gold has not been in nature for a long time, well, or, even if there is something left from it, then it’s definitely not for the Germans to dispose of it.

    So, keep your money on the Field of Miracles. Maybe you are lucky and they will not be taken away. Of course, I understand that economics is a schmikanomics, but how can you trust outright villains who rob even their "type of allies." hi


    The article is about nothing at all!

    BIG AND BOLD MINUS!

    ESPECIALLY HEADLINE!

    Come on, the whole country howls from a shortage of money in the economy. Okay, I'm not an economist by training, but a bunch of professionals say the opposite, do you need money to introduce money into the economy at home and not in American papers at 5 percent, or is it still a tribute to the United States so that the oligarchs are not touched?
  15. Altona
    Altona 30 March 2018 13: 39
    +1
    Quote: Cube123
    And Russia today owes more than $ 100 billion than it has in its assets. What is the point of arresting? The very same money?

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    The private debt of Russian business is about $ 560 billion. Let them arrest. Russian business will sigh with relief, the state will “forgive” to the West all our net debts, both private and public. It will be impossible to do business, Doy-Jones and others get into the USA. This is the effect of the domino wake up. There, and China is creeping with its $ 4 trillion, and this is not even the dragon's tail, but there will be a monetary tsunami. Come on, bang more on finance, if there is absolutely no brain left.
    1. V. Salama
      V. Salama 30 March 2018 19: 15
      0
      Quote: Altona

      ---------------------------
      Private debt of Russian business is about $ 560 billion. Let them arrest. Russian business will breathe a sigh of relief, the state will “forgive” the West all our net debts, both private and public. It will become impossible to do business ....

      I don’t think everything is so simple. Without the necessary statistics, it is impossible to give a definite answer. Suppose you purchased equipment not in China, as well as the original components of the products, and signed long-term contracts for components and raw materials. And then the state will “forgive” both private and state ones ... Part of the business, I don’t know just which one, it’s definitely not going to be happy, significant problems will arise, I think so.
  16. Nadezhda-VOINR-SSSR
    Nadezhda-VOINR-SSSR 30 March 2018 22: 11
    0
    (1) Incorrect title of article and country. That's right: Russia-USSR will not be an eternal whipping boy;
    (2) “we must get out of this vicious circle of endless humiliation. Perhaps even due to the complete withdrawal of the Russian Federation from those organizations that completely compromised themselves as a cover for anti-Russian special operations of the West.” - This is not true. ===== Correct: "We need to get out of this vicious circle of LIES. Due to the FULL restoration of the constitutional order in the entire territory of the USSR and the full exercise of the rights of the USSR as a co-founder of the UN, and a participant in all international, including opposing, organizations.
  17. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 April 1 2018 07: 50
    0
    From the article you can understand one thing that the effectiveness of financial transactions with foreign securities is ZERO, at best. So why does Russia need all this?
  18. Oleg14
    Oleg14 April 2 2018 01: 24
    0
    The assets of Russia are the same domesticity as its territory. Assets of companies, private individuals, the country is obliged to protect, because it is prescribed in the constitution. The President is its Executive.
    To chill the west, perhaps it is worth taking the path of Lenin, refusing to pay the debts of the Russian Empire. For the current government this is a Solomon’s decision. You are bandits, if you rob, its citizens, business people and the country, and with bandits you need to behave accordingly. This is with personal enemies and you need to take off your shirt, and even then not quite. If it threatens a person with death, he is obliged to protect it.
  19. trenkkvaz
    trenkkvaz April 3 2018 12: 50
    +1
    Quote: Tatiana
    You are talking about gold mining in Russia, and I'm talking about buying gold on the side - in other countries that the Central Bank of Russia carries out. The lion's share of this "Russian" gold is located abroad in foreign banks.


    All the gold that our Central Bank buys is in its vaults.
    Do not confuse derivatives on gold traded on the exchange, and physical gold, which the Central Bank buys.
  20. trenkkvaz
    trenkkvaz April 3 2018 12: 52
    0
    Quote: V. Salama
    Quote: Altona

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    Private debt of Russian business is about $ 560 billion. Let them arrest. Russian business will breathe a sigh of relief, the state will “forgive” the West all our net debts, both private and public. It will become impossible to do business ....

    I don’t think everything is so simple. Without the necessary statistics, it is impossible to give a definite answer. Suppose you purchased equipment not in China, as well as the original components of the products, and signed long-term contracts for components and raw materials. And then the state will “forgive” both private and state ones ... Part of the business, I don’t know just which one, it’s definitely not going to be happy, significant problems will arise, I think so.


    We are talking about specific corporate debts specifically to Western companies and states.
    There are mainly debts to Western banks, which were taken even before the sanctions.