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The Russian Foreign Ministry demanded that Ukraine release the crew of the Nord. Not yet and ...

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Only after 4 days in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia officially responded to the detention by the Ukrainian border guards of the Russian fishing vessel "Nord" with 10-th crew members on board. Recall that the Russian ship was escorted by Ukrainian coast guard ships to the port of Berdyansk on March 25. At the same time, the detention of “Nord” was carried out in international waters.


Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said that Russia is demanding that Kiev immediately release the crew members of the fishing vessel and return the vessel to its rightful owner. Recall that the owner is the Kerch fish farm.

Maria Zakharova at the briefing:
There is another provocative antics of the Ukrainian authorities in relation to the citizens of Russia. In relation to the crew of the vessel, the Ukrainian border guards acted simply as Somali pirates. The crew had all the necessary documents for the implementation of fisheries in the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov and worked in strict accordance with current fishing regulations.


The Russian Foreign Ministry demanded that Ukraine release the crew of the Nord. Not yet and ...


What prevented the Foreign Ministry from responding to the actual seizure of Russians hostage on the day of the seizure, to put it mildly, is not entirely clear.
Recall that earlier the FSB of the Republic of Crimea opened a criminal case under the article “Hijacking a ship of air or water transport or railway rolling stock”.
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  1. Theodore
    Theodore 29 March 2018 17: 46
    +6
    And then turn off the gas! To everyone.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 29 March 2018 17: 47
      +10
      Quote: Theodore
      And then turn off the gas! To everyone.

      Send Ukrainian diplomats by the number of seafarers detained, sue.
      1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 29 March 2018 17: 50
        +53
        Quote: Balu
        Send Ukrainian diplomats by the number of seafarers detained,

        It will not give anything. Tough measures are needed here. How do countries bordering the United States behave? Either quietly, or receive a blockade / military response. Maybe the United States trades with countries that seize their ships, carry out sabotage on their territory? Nothing of the kind, for example, the US is constantly trying to stagger Venezuela, to realize the Maidan there. There are economic measures too. This is not a supply of blades for Mi-24 to the Ukrainian army aviation. In the United States, officials would go to federal prison for such supplies. The United States lowered the standard of living in Venezuela to poverty, and Russia has poured hundreds of billions into Ukraine over decades, in exchange for the lack of a Russian language in the state and banderization. In addition, Venezuela did not leave the United States. What would they do with Texas or California, if they try to separate and sit on the pipe, I’m scared to imagine.
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 29 March 2018 17: 59
          +34
          Where were our guard ships? Why not come to the rescue? Aviation finally! - Would have given a warning salvo.
          1. free
            free 29 March 2018 18: 11
            +11
            Quote: SRC P-15
            Where were our guard ships? Why not come to the rescue? Aviation finally! - Would have given a warning salvo.

            Under the Union, this would not have been possible, they were even afraid to think about it.
            1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
              Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 29 March 2018 18: 20
              +9
              SRC P-15 And ​​where were our patrol ships? Why didn’t you come to the rescue? Aviation finally! - They would give a warning volley.

              Apparently they do not pose such a task. This is not a capture of the rig. For example, the spring of 2016. The next attempt by the Navy in the person of the Smela U541 training boat to “verify documents” with the personnel + a group of Russian special forces located at the same Chernomorneftegaz B-312 and B-319 drilling rigs ends with the appearance of the very same Mirage MRK on the stage. The consequence of which is the victorious retreat of the “Courageous” towards Odessa ...
            2. Sergey Koryagin
              Sergey Koryagin 29 March 2018 18: 27
              +2
              The union was even worse!
              1. Moore
                Moore 29 March 2018 18: 53
                +24
                Quote: Sergey Koryagin
                The union was even worse!

                RK "Yorktown", EM "Keron", "SKR-6", "Bezavavetny", 12.02.1988/XNUMX/XNUMX - does any of these words and numbers say, or did they just run into a shit?
                1. Sergey Koryagin
                  Sergey Koryagin 30 March 2018 12: 30
                  +2
                  You chew your own derma! Have you heard anything about such situations in Morocco from 1981 -83? Only Fidel Castro solved the problem with the Moroccans within two days, and the USSR for a month or more. Total captains retired (for health) and crews home without a penny in your pocket .
                2. Someone from the fleet
                  Someone from the fleet 31 March 2018 03: 14
                  0
                  Quote: Moore
                  Quote: Sergey Koryagin
                  The union was even worse!

                  RK "Yorktown", EM "Keron", "SKR-6", "Bezavavetny", 12.02.1988/XNUMX/XNUMX - does any of these words and numbers say, or did they just run into a shit?

                  If you mean a ram when trying to expel from territorial waters, then of course it says.
            3. Mihail28
              Mihail28 29 March 2018 18: 35
              +2
              Under the Union ... And what was filmed about the film "Pirates of the Twentieth Century"?
              Only among the Soviet sailors were Velyaminov, Eremenko, they did not give offense, could protect themselves in any situation.
              1. Baloo
                Baloo 29 March 2018 21: 32
                +6
                Quote: Michael28
                And what about the film "Twentieth Century Pirates" was shot?

                The film is fiction and filmed in the Sea of ​​Azov. There were real cases, about one of them a film was made in the 50s or 60s.
                Only among the Soviet sailors were Velyaminov, Eremenko, they did not give offense, could protect themselves in any situation.

                Unfortunately, we do not know anything about the fate of our sailors, whom the Nazis interned a few days before the start of the Second World War. Some captains, who were forbidden to leave the ports, at their own peril and risk, under cover of night, anchored and tried to reach their homeland. That's about whom not a single movie was made. What do we see? According to Hollywood patterns, pretty series, where logic is inferior to absurdities
            4. Serg65
              Serg65 29 March 2018 18: 44
              +6
              Quote: free
              Under the Union, this would not have been possible, they were even afraid to think about it.

              Did you know this problem under the Union?
              1. free
                free 29 March 2018 20: 03
                +2
                Quote: Serg65
                Quote: free
                Under the Union, this would not have been possible, they were even afraid to think about it.

                Did you know this problem under the Union?

                Here he is a liberal in all his glory, the Union does not give him rest, day or night!
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 29 March 2018 20: 28
                  +10
                  Quote: free
                  Here he is a liberal in all his glory, the Union does not give him rest, day or night!

                  respected revolutionary terrorist. you were only 90 years old in 9, and you may not know at all about the fate of the Soviet ship "Selenga". about the epic of the Tuapse tanker, about the seizure of the Sevastopol SRTMs, and how do you know, the story of your homeland is not of interest to you, give you a revolution!
                  1. free
                    free 30 March 2018 10: 23
                    +2
                    Quote: Serg65
                    Quote: free
                    Here he is a liberal in all his glory, the Union does not give him rest, day or night!

                    respected revolutionary terrorist. you were only 90 years old in 9, and you may not know at all about the fate of the Soviet ship "Selenga". about the epic of the Tuapse tanker, about the seizure of the Sevastopol SRTMs, and how do you know, the story of your homeland is not of interest to you, give you a revolution!

                    And why did you get the idea that I’m a revolutionary terrorist, you don’t find a pretty serious accusation? And I don’t put the revolution as an end in itself, you also poked a finger at a well-known substance. Well, since you know this problem, enlighten me, do mercy, the Union’s reaction and consequences. And I'm not a master, I'm a comrade.
                    1. Serg65
                      Serg65 30 March 2018 10: 52
                      +1
                      Quote: free
                      And why did you get the idea that I am a revolutionary terrorist

                      laughing I can smell you!
                      Quote: free
                      Union reaction and consequences

                      In the first two cases, they only expressed concern, in the third three months later they were released.
                      Quote: free
                      .And I'm not a master, I'm a comrade.

                      Comrade, you are for your friends, but not for me.
                      1. free
                        free 30 March 2018 10: 55
                        +3
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Quote: free
                        And why did you get the idea that I am a revolutionary terrorist

                        laughing I can smell you!
                        Quote: free
                        Union reaction and consequences

                        In the first two cases, they only expressed concern, in the third three months later they were released.
                        Quote: free
                        .And I'm not a master, I'm a comrade.

                        Comrade, you are for your friends, but not for me.

                        So I smell liberals for miles! I am a friend for my friends, this is true, and you are the master for all, without exception!
                      2. Fedot57
                        Fedot57 31 March 2018 16: 34
                        +3
                        I don’t want to blame anyone, but our ship was captured by Taiwan in 1949 in my opinion, and only in 1962 they managed to free the sailors. Our Foreign Ministry and the state have always been very indifferent to the fate of the captured ships and all this nonsense about our naval special forces and all sorts of special groups there are just literary fiction. I will say one thing about this case, no one will do it and will not do it, the guys will be pressed, the ship will be sold, in short, you will see everything for yourself.
              2. TERIBER
                TERIBER 30 March 2018 08: 07
                +5
                Gentlemen, I knew this problem during the alliance. A ship with the crew was captured in Sierra Leone in 1987. Ambassadors could not even release him. I stood for 18 days under armed guard. I was there.
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 30 March 2018 09: 56
                  +1
                  Quote: TERIBER
                  I was there .

                  According to the theory of Mr. Svobodny, you are the same liberal as I am, because you are definitely lying laughing
            5. 79807420129
              79807420129 29 March 2018 19: 12
              +13
              Quote: free
              Under the Union, this would not have been possible, they were even afraid to think about it.

              Correctly in the USSR it would not be possible yes since Ukraine was part of the USSR and the Sea of ​​Azov was the inland sea of ​​the USSR. yes
            6. ultra
              ultra 29 March 2018 23: 37
              0
              Quote: free
              Under the Union, this would not have been possible, they were even afraid to think about it.

              Of course it is impossible, then Ukraine was part of the USSR! laughing
            7. sgazeev
              sgazeev 30 March 2018 08: 30
              +2
              Quote: free
              Quote: SRC P-15
              Where were our guard ships? Why not come to the rescue? Aviation finally! - Would have given a warning salvo.

              Under the Union, this would not have been possible, they were even afraid to think about it.

              And under the Union there was a seizure of a ship near Taiwan, graters went for about a year. And here it is obvious from the supply of mattresses.
              1. free
                free 30 March 2018 10: 25
                +1
                Quote: sgazeev
                Quote: free
                Quote: SRC P-15
                Where were our guard ships? Why not come to the rescue? Aviation finally! - Would have given a warning salvo.

                Under the Union, this would not have been possible, they were even afraid to think about it.

                And under the Union there was a seizure of a ship near Taiwan, graters went for about a year. And here it is obvious from the supply of mattresses.

                It was a matter of sending heads to the performers, the KGB worked.
            8. URAL72
              URAL72 April 1 2018 00: 21
              +2
              Under the Union? Yah! What about the capture of our ship by Taiwan? Then the sailors were not only detained, but also recruited to refuse to return to the union, even tortured. Enough and then such provocations.
          2. Serg65
            Serg65 29 March 2018 18: 43
            +4
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Where were our patrol ships?

            And the fisherman was captured in the Russian authorities? Or should a watchman follow each fisherman?
            there is only one way out. the fishing area is determined and this area should be guarded by a Russian warship.
            1. Looking for
              Looking for 29 March 2018 19: 03
              +42
              The speed of such fishing vessels is no more than 8-10 knots. So it took me at least an hour to cross to Berdyansk (even under its own power). So, what could not be raised during this time, not only MI-24, but even would MI-8 with a pair of machine guns in order to stop the piracy of the Ukrainian border guards. Well, it doesn’t get !!!! -. to have such forces and so WRONG ????
              1. Nike
                Nike 29 March 2018 19: 21
                +4
                Bravo Seeker!
              2. Baloo
                Baloo 29 March 2018 19: 25
                +2
                Quote: Seeker
                So, what could not be raised during this time, not just MI-24, but at least MI-8 with a couple of machine guns in order to stop the piracy of the Ukrainian border guards. Well, it doesn’t reach !!!! -. Have such forces and so WRONG? ???

                Exactly, so er ... ..... tsya !?
              3. sabakina
                sabakina 29 March 2018 20: 03
                +6
                Seeker, dill them all the connection chopped off, including and emergency.
                1. Kerensky
                  Kerensky 30 March 2018 07: 23
                  +1
                  Seeker, dill them all the connection chopped off, including and emergency.

                  Does the Cospas-Sorsat system no longer work? It is enough to throw the Mosquito emergency buoy into the water.
              4. Serg65
                Serg65 29 March 2018 20: 03
                +7
                Quote: Seeker
                .to have such strength and so WRONG ????

                Do you know all the details of this capture?
              5. Normal ok
                Normal ok 29 March 2018 20: 20
                +4
                Quote: Seeker
                So, what could not be raised during this time, not like MI-24, but at least MI-8 with a couple of machine guns

                "Urgently send five motorcycles with machine guns" wassat (Bulgakov. Master and Margarita)
              6. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 29 March 2018 22: 18
                +4
                Quote: Seeker
                The speed of such fishing vessels is no more than 8-10 knots. So it took me at least an hour to cross to Berdyansk (even under its own power). So, what could not be raised during this time, not only MI-24, but even would MI-8 with a pair of machine guns in order to stop the piracy of the Ukrainian border guards. Well, it doesn’t get !!!! -. to have such forces and so WRONG ????

                Did the captain even give a distress signal or that the ship was arrested and escorted to Berdyansk? Maybe he stomped in silence mode to Berdyansk itself.
              7. verner1967
                verner1967 30 March 2018 07: 38
                +1
                Quote: Seeker
                So, what could not be raised during this time, not just MI-24, but at least MI-8 with a couple of machine guns in order to stop the piracy of the Ukrainian border guards

                On the ship (Russian), an inspection team, according to whom the queues of machine guns are to be granted, especially in foreign territorial waters (they must have reached them by that time)?
            2. free
              free 29 March 2018 20: 05
              +8
              Quote: Serg65
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Where were our patrol ships?

              And the fisherman was captured in the Russian authorities? Or should a watchman follow each fisherman?
              there is only one way out. the fishing area is determined and this area should be guarded by a Russian warship.

              The state must react harshly in such cases, very harshly! And the Foreign Ministry as a state representative expresses some concerns!
          3. Flyer_64
            Flyer_64 29 March 2018 20: 44
            +2
            Quote: SRC P-15
            Where were our patrol ships?

            Ours are guarded by a bridge and a strait. The fishermen themselves were somewhat to blame for the area far from what was claimed. Why is the reaction belated? It was believed that poached. Now it has changed.
          4. verner1967
            verner1967 30 March 2018 07: 35
            +2
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Where were our guard ships? Why not come to the rescue? Aviation finally! - Would have given a warning salvo.

            In your opinion, do airplanes sit on every fishing trawler or seiner? How do you imagine this process, access to the radio frequencies of the VKS or Navy? Most importantly, another 24 quacks found support fool
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 29 March 2018 19: 30
          +5
          Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
          and for decades, Russia has poured hundreds of billions into Ukraine

          Well, why poured. pour in.
          I took a photo myself
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 29 March 2018 21: 35
            +3
            Quote: LSA57
            Well, why poured. pour in.

            Indeed, on the next branch there is a caustic article about Kostin, the leader of VTB.
            I even thought, where will this money go from Ukraine? belay
        3. Normal ok
          Normal ok 29 March 2018 20: 16
          +2
          Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
          US constantly trying to reel Venezuela

          Venezuela does not need to wobble. She herself has been staggering for a long time.
          Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
          US lowered living standards in Venezuela to poverty

          Venezuela was ruined by the populism of leadership. And poverty there is a natural result of Sharikov’s paradigm: “divide everything”.
          1. AID.S
            AID.S 29 March 2018 22: 43
            +3
            Quote: Normal ok
            Venezuela does not need to wobble. She herself has been staggering for a long time.

            Quote: Normal ok
            Venezuela dies populism leadership

            Buried early. The presidential elections in May will show what and how.
        4. 11 black
          11 black 30 March 2018 15: 26
          +3
          Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
          It will not give anything. Tough measures are needed here. How do countries bordering the United States behave? Either quietly, or receive a blockade / military response. Maybe the United States trades with countries that seize their ships, carry out sabotage on their territory? Nothing of the kind, for example, the US is constantly trying to stagger Venezuela, to realize the Maidan there. There are economic measures too. This is not a supply of blades for Mi-24 to the Ukrainian army aviation. In the United States, officials would go to federal prison for such supplies. The United States lowered the standard of living in Venezuela to poverty, and Russia has poured hundreds of billions into Ukraine over decades, in exchange for the lack of a Russian language in the state and banderization. In addition, Venezuela did not leave the United States. What would they do with Texas or California, if they try to separate and sit on the pipe, I’m scared to imagine.

          The USA is a parasitic metropolis in its worst incarnation and, to put it mildly, not the best role model.
          The United States will trade with Venezuela - if it is beneficial to them, then it is necessary. The thing is that Russians, unlike Americans, do not kill innocents for money and do not ruin other people's homes for their own standard of living.
          America is a parasite stuck to humanity, we are not like them - and that's great.
          By the way - explain your comment about hundreds of billions - again unproven nonsense? And by the way - Venezuela with one letter "c" - you are an expert on our Russian language.
          PS - you would have better studied the capture of the American intelligence agent Pueblo during the years of the USSR - the same story, and then the Americans could not do anything even with their fleet - pirates are pirates. You can’t put security on every ship.
      2. svp67
        svp67 29 March 2018 17: 51
        +9
        Quote: Balu
        Send Ukrainian diplomats by the number of seafarers detained, sue.

        There is another way, but ours is unlikely to go for it ... Ukrainians, since the collapse of the USSR, we have been fishing in our Far East ...
        1. himRa
          himRa 29 March 2018 17: 54
          +9
          Quote: svp67
          There is another way

          good I also think (I'm sure) that if desired, ours can step on ,, callus ,, painfully unacceptably wassat
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 29 March 2018 18: 28
          +17
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Balu
          Send Ukrainian diplomats by the number of seafarers detained, sue.

          There is another way, but ours is unlikely to go for it ... Ukrainians, since the collapse of the USSR, we have been fishing in our Far East ...

          It means to cancel visa-free, except for refugees with LDNR. And everyone entering, as in Poland, must loudly declare at the border: Bandera and Shukhevych, traitors and executioners of Ukraine, and sign a written statement about this. lol
      3. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 29 March 2018 17: 58
        +10
        What prevented the Foreign Ministry from responding to the actual seizure of Russians hostage on the day of the seizure, to put it mildly, is not entirely clear.

        So it was calculated that Russia would begin to show "concern" ..
        I would generally prohibit on “our media” even the mention of Ukraine and their squeals and provocations ..
        I remember during the second Chechen one, everything abruptly died down in the media of "ours and not ours" .. Only the dry facts are short ... Let them scream on the Internet and fight in the epilepsy! I think it would work with Ukraine too! We are constantly bred for excuses and all sorts of "concerns" .. It's time to start working men to restore Great Russia! And do not pay attention to the barking of any mongrels and provocateurs .... The caravan is going in the right direction !!!
        These are the things in the tank troops .. soldier
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 29 March 2018 19: 17
          +5
          I do not understand what problems with the answer?
          We put the barrier under the famous Bridge, lower it and that's it. The next day, all will be returned and never touch again. hi
          1. Evgeniy667b
            Evgeniy667b 30 March 2018 03: 12
            0
            By the way, this week there was an incident between Russian border guards and DNR poachers with the shooting that the marriage started!
            1. Rakti-kali
              Rakti-kali 30 March 2018 10: 23
              0
              Quote: Evgeniy667b
              By the way, this week there was an incident between Russian border guards and DNR poachers with the shooting that the marriage started!

              Pffff ... here these incidents are almost daily, marriages from the adjacent territory (both in Ukraine, and in the DPR) almost climb the Miussky estuary to put networks.
        2. sapporo1959
          sapporo1959 29 March 2018 23: 05
          +5
          Do you think instead of preoccupation it’s better to get up with a crustacean or what? You, as a tanker, understand it, but do we not understand it for ordinary people as it is? It’s like announcing these concerns to a rowdy neighbor at least every other day, but until he gets into his horn, they don’t understand. and repairs, already sparks from the roof fly .. But I crashed a couple of times and the man, having realized his mistakes, already approached the wiring and stopped ...
        3. StVahmistr
          StVahmistr 30 March 2018 10: 36
          +1
          ..It's time to start working men to restore Great Russia! And do not pay attention to the barking of any mongrels and provocateurs .... The caravan is going in the right direction !!!

          He has been restoring it since 2000 and will not restore it at all, constantly showing concern and wagging at something .... sad And which direction is right? what
      4. 210ox
        210ox 29 March 2018 18: 14
        +5
        No! Act in a rude way! Arrest them all. And spit on diplomacy!
        Quote: Balu
        Quote: Theodore
        And then turn off the gas! To everyone.

        Send Ukrainian diplomats by the number of seafarers detained, sue.
        1. Anti-Corr.
          Anti-Corr. 29 March 2018 18: 40
          +1
          Quote: 210ox
          Arrest them all. And do not care about diplomacy!

          Virtually?
          1. 210ox
            210ox 29 March 2018 19: 47
            +3
            Well, since there is no Faberge, it means virtually. Yes, and the world Cup interferes yes
            Quote: Anti-Corr.
            Quote: 210ox
            Arrest them all. And do not care about diplomacy!

            Virtually?
      5. Lavrenti Pavlovich
        Lavrenti Pavlovich 29 March 2018 18: 24
        +8
        Quote: Balu
        Quote: Theodore
        And then turn off the gas! To everyone.

        Send Ukrainian diplomats by the number of seafarers detained, sue.

        It is necessary for a group of ships of the Russian Navy to come close to the port where the vessel is held and send one or two rooks, under the guise of the Navy. Otherwise, capture the port and the city and exchange it for the crew.
        1. Anti-Corr.
          Anti-Corr. 29 March 2018 18: 48
          +7
          Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
          It is necessary for a group of ships of the Russian Navy to come close to the port where the vessel is held and send one or two rooks, under the guise of the Navy. Otherwise, capture the port and the city and exchange it for the crew.

          And you are a colleague, a radical! You can, of course, block the Mariupol and Berdyansk ports or ban the passage through the Kerch Strait, but these are not our methods, we have Zakharova and Lavrov, and the ambassador on the outskirts and marmots with a bear bear are super negotiators. It’s okay, the Imperials, everything will work out, we have an excellent foreign policy, now we’ll take up the domestic one.
          1. okko077
            okko077 29 March 2018 22: 27
            +3
            Why so hard? Stop the passage of any Ukrainian ship, send the assault group on board and throw the forbidden .... And arrest, and then exchange. Extremely simple with videos and protocols ....
            1. Anti-Corr.
              Anti-Corr. 29 March 2018 22: 52
              +2
              Quote: okko077
              Why so hard? Stop at the transition of any Ukrainian ship

              Quote: okko077
              throw the forbidden ..

              Valera, are you not a police officer? Well, it’s not with us, there are still international standards ... although I’m talking about something, then it’s better to leave the bomb and shob ...
          2. Antares
            Antares 29 March 2018 23: 05
            +2
            Quote: Anti-Corr.
            ambassador to

            no ambassador there ... only an attorney
        2. 11 black
          11 black 30 March 2018 19: 54
          +2
          Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
          It is necessary for a group of ships of the Russian Navy to come close to the port where the vessel is held and send one or two rooks, under the guise of the Navy. Otherwise, capture the port and the city and exchange it for the crew.

          In the exact same situation, even the Americans, having the strongest fleet in the world, did not go for such measures. We discussed and came to the conclusion that in this situation no one from that crew would remain alive, and the ship would most likely not be pulled out ...
          Response measures are needed here, but completely different — for example, to send 70 thousand labor migrants from the country — 10 thousand for each hostage (and preferably 20 or 30 thousand migrants) —you will look and think it over.
      6. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 29 March 2018 18: 31
        +11
        Quote: Balu
        Quote: Theodore
        And then turn off the gas! To everyone.

        Send Ukrainian diplomats by the number of seafarers detained, sue.

        No and no again!
        That's when PMC would be needed. Rather, MTR camouflaged by PMCs. They would break into the port, free the crew and the ship. In the process, destroying the boats of the border dill service. And try to get to the bottom - the collective farm hired PMCs to return its property and its workers.
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 29 March 2018 18: 36
          +8
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          That's when PMC would be needed. Rather, MTR camouflaged by PMCs. They would break into the port, free the crew and the ship. In the process, destroying the boats of the border dill service. And try to get to the bottom - the collective farm hired PMCs to return its property and its workers.

          That's it. PSC fulfilled its obligations under the contract. angry
        2. Anti-Corr.
          Anti-Corr. 29 March 2018 18: 49
          +5
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          That's when PMC would be needed. Rather, MTR camouflaged by PMCs. They would break into the port, free the crew and the ship. In the process, destroying the boats of the border dill service.

          And they would have captured kuev wassat
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 29 March 2018 19: 31
            +3
            Quote: Anti-Corr.
            And they would have captured kuev

            why the hell to us with all this rubbish?
            I would venture to suggest that the purpose of the provocation is another show with both Savchenko and her fake accomplices from the SBU, in order to then bargain for an exchange of real terrorists captured by the FSB with evidence to prepare for terrorist attacks, and I mean not only Sentsova. Although I could be wrong. As I understand it, the fishermen were captured in neutral waters. Then why is the prosecutor’s office silent and no case has been opened on the seizure of the ship and the abduction of Russian citizens? angry
            1. Anti-Corr.
              Anti-Corr. 29 March 2018 19: 46
              +3
              Quote: Balu
              Then why is the prosecutor’s office silent and not a case has been opened on the seizure of a ship and the abduction of Russian citizens?

              Kerch prosecutors seem to be "excited"?
              Quote: Balu
              to then bargain for an exchange for real terrorists captured by the FSB with evidence to prepare for terrorist attacks

              A colleague, of course, this development should be considered, but I am more concerned about the 90-strong Ukrainian grouping on the borders and in the neighboring areas of the LDNR.
              1. Baloo
                Baloo 29 March 2018 20: 03
                +8
                Quote: Anti-Corr.
                And statements parashka about ATO transfer to the combined-arms operation, how is it?

                The Kiev organized crime group, which has lost real estate in the Crimea and the Donbass, will never calm down.
                The grouping of "instructors" from the USA, Europe and even from Canada itself is growing. They will not trample on Russia, realizing that they will be destroyed. But they will try to cut off LDNR from the sea and the border with Russia. While pushing through the question of peacekeepers. Already, the Swedes wanted to get another pendulum. It will be fun if the Vatican and Luxembourg send someone else. I can imagine how the Scots will flanch across the steppes of Ukraine.
                I would venture to suggest that the tsarlom hands of the SBU will try to eliminate the political and military leadership of the LDNR. This will be a kars missile signal to attack. If Russia introduces its troops, this will be a signal to NATO, as well as to the collapse of Ukraine as "neighbors", as if to protect its compatriots-Hungarians, Poles, etc. While there is a company to isolate Russia and demonize its peoples and political leadership.
                I have no doubt that there was no “newcomer” to the Skripals case. Fentanyl was injected through the clothes (used in anesthesiology for general anesthesia), then anointed with a brush one of the components of the "novice" (this binary BOV is dangerous only when the components are connected) here, there. In the Litvinenko case, I am sure there was no polonium either. First they poisoned with some kind of neurotropic poison (like a rat with waist and cadmium), then they marked with polonium tracks the routes of movement and so on.
                But this is just my guess.
                1. Anti-Corr.
                  Anti-Corr. 29 March 2018 20: 11
                  +8
                  Quote: Balu
                  But this is just my guess.

                  Your versions have a right to life hi Only they no longer have any significance, except for us. The process has started, and if the Britons used to talk about the violin as a supposed crime, now the rhetoric is reduced to the fact that this is a fait accompli. Well, what next, and then we will reap the fruits of our "unusually successful foreign policy." hi
            2. New Year day
              New Year day 29 March 2018 21: 21
              +6
              Quote: Balu
              Then why is the prosecutor’s office silent and not a case has been opened on the seizure of a ship and the abduction of Russian citizens?

              The FSB Directorate for Crimea opened a case against the crew of the Ukrainian State Border Service, which on March 25 was detained by the Nord seiner, flying ten Russian flags, with ten crew members who are Russian citizens.

              The case was opened under the article "Theft of a ship by air or water transport or railway rolling stock."
          2. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 30 March 2018 11: 13
            +1
            Quote: Anti-Corr.

            3
            Anti-Corr. (Alex) Yesterday, 18:49 ↑
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            That's when PMC would be needed. Rather, MTR camouflaged by PMCs. They would break into the port, free the crew and the ship. In the process, destroying the boats of the border dill service.

            And they would have captured kuev

            In no case. Why does Russia need this headache? First, it is necessary that Kiev itself understands what he has done. Yes, understanding this will take many years. But this is better than fighting the terror and partisanism in the event of a military capture of Kiev for as many years.
        3. 11 black
          11 black 30 March 2018 19: 56
          0
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          No and no again!
          That's when PMC would be needed. Rather, MTR camouflaged by PMCs. They would break into the port, free the crew and the ship. In the process, destroying the boats of the border dill service. And try to get to the bottom - the collective farm hired PMCs to return its property and its workers.

          "Free"? A native Russian would never have betrayed such a thing - not even a loser. wink
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 30 March 2018 20: 07
            +1
            Quote: 11 black
            "Free"? A native Russian would never have betrayed such a - even a loser

            Those. Have you ever made typos? Hats off to a genius !!!
            1. 11 black
              11 black 30 March 2018 21: 53
              0
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              Those. Have you ever made typos? Hats off to a genius !!!

              I explain.
              1) The letter "A" on the keyboard is separated from the letter "O" by 2 keys.
              2) When typing, the letter O is printed with the right hand, and the letter A with the left.
              You can "seal" only by pressing the next key, and you missed it very, very much - that is, you didn’t "seal", but you made a mistake. Moreover, they were mistaken as no native speaker would ever have been mistaken - hence the conclusion ...
              Quote: 11 black
              "Free"? A native Russian would never have betrayed such a thing - not even a loser.
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 30 March 2018 22: 19
                0
                Quote: 11 black

                1) The letter "A" on the keyboard is separated from the letter "O" by 2 keys.
                2) When typing, the letter O is printed with the right hand, and the letter A with the left.
                You can "seal" only by pressing the next key, and you missed it very, very much - that is, you didn’t "seal", but you made a mistake. Moreover, they were mistaken as no native speaker would ever have been mistaken - hence the conclusion ...

                Sasha, calm down already. I am 64 and + hypertension. I have a wild headache this hour and I type with one hand, and I got acquainted with the keyboard a year ago. So, put me a deuce and calm down in your genius. Yes, in order to give you even greater pleasure, I confess, I had a troika in Russian in school. Sasha, have I satisfied you? I agree with you, you know the Russian language better than Kuprin, Leskov, all the Tolstoys, I'm not talking about Pushkin, Derzhavin and other geniuses. I do not argue. You are the best. Did I reassure you?
                1. 11 black
                  11 black 31 March 2018 11: 01
                  +1
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  Sasha, calm down already.

                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  I agree with you, you know the Russian language better than Kuprin, Leskov, all the Tolstoys, I'm not talking about Pushkin, Derzhavin and other geniuses. I do not argue. You are the best. Did I reassure you?

                  I’m calm, but you, as I see, are not very ...
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  me 64 and + hypertension. I now have a wild headache and I type with one hand, and I got acquainted with the keyboard a year ago.

                  Then my advice to you is to sit at the computer less and breathe more fresh air. In a healthy body, as they say, a healthy mind! Take the pill ... otherwise I’m scared to imagine how much time you typed in the comment if the spread of the fingers is three keys.
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  Yes, in order to give you even greater pleasure, I confess, I had a troika in Russian in school.

                  Chur me - I do not need such pleasure. But to be honest - I can’t imagine how you can seal on three keys.
                  One tip - before confirming the comment - read it again, then there will be no such incidents - such errors can ruin the whole meaning of the comment. It’s like at a presentation - even if your report shines with genius, but if you make a mistake in the obvious word and the audience will tear you, you won’t be saved.
                  Also here ... I think it is obvious to everyone that on this site, like on many others, a whole squad of payroll trolls works, and such errors immediately raise suspicions. hi
                  1. Romulus
                    Romulus 31 March 2018 11: 08
                    0
                    Quote: 11 black
                    Also here.

                    good Fat plus - in one gate as they say did) drinks
                  2. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 31 March 2018 13: 35
                    +1
                    Quote: 11 black

                    Then my advice to you is to sit at the computer less and breathe more fresh air. In a healthy body, as they say, a healthy mind! Take the pill ... otherwise I’m scared to imagine how much time you typed in the comment if the spread of the fingers is three keys.

                    No, I'm typing fast enough, that's why it's a typo. I make a reservation, you, of course, faster. But I'm happy with that anyway.
                    Quote: 11 black
                    I’m calm, but you, as I see, are not very ...

                    If you are so calm, why did you make such a squeal? Because of such nonsense as a typo. It’s just that, as I understand it, you don’t like my position, but you cannot oppose anything. So they decided to "take me away" with my illiteracy. You know what I’ll tell you - an intelligent person will never boast of his intelligence before a stupid one. Because it is unworthy of the smart. If you were a well-mannered person, you would not reproach me mockingly for an alleged error (after all, this is your speculation), but rather tactfully say - you have a typo there, be careful in the future. And I would thank you. But you acted differently than allowed me to create a rather unflattering opinion about you.
                    Thank you for the advice, of course.
                    Quote: 11 black

                    But to be honest - I can’t imagine how you can seal on three keys.

                    It only speaks of your meager imagination.
                    Quote: 11 black

                    Also here ... I think it is obvious to everyone that on this site, like on many others, a whole squad of payroll trolls works, and such errors immediately raise suspicions. hi

                    Those. You want to say that salary trolls are sure to write with spelling mistakes?
                    Well, this speaks of your mental abilities. Yes, and badly brought up! In general, the picture is clear. I wish you hello.
      7. Herculesic
        Herculesic 29 March 2018 18: 37
        +14
        This is the result of the fact that Mariupol and Berdyansk were left behind ukroina, and they were not allowed to take them to the republics in the 14th year! And similar with our seiners and trawlers will now be "in the order of things", unfortunately.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 29 March 2018 18: 59
          +3
          Quote: Herkulesich
          This is the result of the fact that Mariupol and Berdyansk were left behind ukroina, and they were not allowed to take them to the republics in the 14th year! And similar with our seiners and trawlers will now be "in the order of things", unfortunately.

          Not! If you give a tough answer on the first occasion. And Russia, as always, mumbles. And the point is not in Berdyansk and Mariupol. The point is the toothlessness of Russia.
          Of course, you can’t attach security to each seiner. But if that happened, it was necessary to conduct a military operation to free him. I am sure that the world community would not condemn. And if they captured the dill service boats “captured”, Russia would have discouraged any dill from dill to repeat this.
          1. Alf
            Alf 29 March 2018 20: 48
            +3
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            I am sure the world community would not condemn

            And the world community is, excuse me, who? Only 2 countries - the USA and England - come to mind. The rest are American sixes, which no one calls them at all.
          2. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov 29 March 2018 20: 51
            +3
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            Quote: Herkulesich
            This is the result of the fact that Mariupol and Berdyansk were left behind ukroina, and they were not allowed to take them to the republics in the 14th year! And similar with our seiners and trawlers will now be "in the order of things", unfortunately.

            Not! If you give a tough answer on the first occasion. And Russia, as always, mumbles. And the point is not in Berdyansk and Mariupol. The point is the toothlessness of Russia.
            Of course, you can’t attach security to each seiner. But if that happened, it was necessary to conduct a military operation to free him. I am sure that the world community would not condemn. And if they captured the dill service boats “captured”, Russia would have discouraged any dill from dill to repeat this.

            You are clearly a provocateur! If you make such a noise because of every rusty ship .. It will be constant! .. You don’t need to spray on the little things .. Our goal is Kiev! And he will be ours, without Bandera and other riffraffers .. soldier
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 29 March 2018 21: 21
              +3
              Quote: MIKHAN

              You are clearly a provocateur! If you make such a noise because of every rusty ship .. It will be constant! .. You don’t need to spray on the little things .. Our goal is Kiev! And he will be ours, without Bandera and other riffraffers .. soldier

              When there is nothing to argue they hang up a label - a provocateur. The simplest did not reach your wise brains - an insult was inflicted on Russia. She spit in the face and she wiped herself off.
              Just think - a "rusty ship". Just think - they spat in my face, but today I didn’t wash myself. "Our goal is Kiev!" So I see you with an attached bayonet and going on the attack.
              Russia itself is to blame for the fact that it is constantly all (!) Karl, everyone (!) Is constantly humiliating and insulting. And she habitually wipes herself and exclaims with your mouth - our goal is blah, blah, blah !!!
            2. Baloo
              Baloo 29 March 2018 21: 43
              +3
              Quote: MIKHAN
              Our goal is Kiev! And he will be ours, without Bandera and other riffraffers ..

              Vitaly, you, as always, offer the most radical option, but it does not roll. Think for yourself, why the hell is this Kiev and all of Ukraine with a collapsed economy?
              They promised the Donbass, we help as much as we can, our possibilities are not unlimited.
              1. sogdy
                sogdy 30 March 2018 07: 57
                0
                Quote: MIKHAN
                You are clearly a provocateur! If you make such a noise because of every rusty ship .. It will be constantly! .. You don’t need to spray on the little things .. Our goal is Kiev! And he will be ours, without Bandera and other riffraff.

                Quote: Balu
                Vitaly, you, as always, offer the most radical option, but it does not roll. Think for yourself, why the hell is this Kiev and all of Ukraine with a collapsed economy?

                That is, on the first question, do you agree?
            3. asiat_61
              asiat_61 30 March 2018 01: 08
              0
              Of course it's better to chew snot.
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 29 March 2018 19: 36
          +3
          Quote: Herkulesich
          This is the result of the fact that Mariupol and Berdyansk were left behind ukroina, and they were not allowed to take them to the republics in the 14th year!

          Vitalich, maybe the militias did not have the resources to hold these territories later?
          request
          Quote: Herkulesich
          And similar with our seiners and trawlers will now be "in the order of things", unfortunately.

          It seems like that. The proposal to block the entrance under the Crimean bridge for Ukrainian courts may violate international law, which, like Russia, no one seems to observe in this region. Bandera must once again hit the money. In Russia, that there is no business of Ukrainian oligarchs and Kiev organized crime groups? We must, we must nightmare, let them move and learn to respect Russia, once they have prepared emergency airfields in Russia. angry
        3. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 31 March 2018 13: 42
          0
          Quote: Herkulesich
          This is the result of the fact that Mariupol and Berdyansk were left behind ukroina, and they were not allowed to take them to the republics in the 14th year! And similar with our seiners and trawlers will now be "in the order of things", unfortunately.

          Vitalyevich, but the fact that the blatant Saxons brazenly burst into a Russian plane (i.e., into Russian territory) and held a shmon there, without observing legal norms, is this also because they did not take Mariupol?
          And in my opinion this is due to the fact that Russia suffered without will.
      8. rocket757
        rocket757 29 March 2018 19: 03
        +4
        Would suggest a changelog, diplomats to fishermen! But shaw, we are ASIAN, we POSITION by breed!
        And see all civilizational husk, one harm from it!
        Today they again broadcast on the radio - our "Western partners" carried out UNFROMAL actions ???? They sho mock all of us? No quotes are visible on the radio. It's time to tell the truth - THE ENEMY has committed the ACT of WAR! -
      9. pvv113
        pvv113 29 March 2018 19: 06
        +4
        Do not send, but exchange for sailors wink
      10. Slovak
        Slovak 29 March 2018 22: 57
        +2
        Quote: Balu
        Quote: Theodore
        And then turn off the gas! To everyone.

        Send Ukrainian diplomats by the number of seafarers detained, sue.

        It makes no sense. Another thing is the Black Sea Fleet can selectively either drive back to the stall or escort any Ukrainian vessel to itself.
      11. Yuri Lazarev
        Yuri Lazarev 30 March 2018 02: 23
        +1
        Arrest, not expel. As representatives of a terrorist state.
      12. SlavaS
        SlavaS 30 March 2018 09: 33
        +1
        do not send but delay
      13. Blondy
        Blondy April 3 2018 08: 52
        0
        Lord - business then. Well, they would send a squad of corbles, they would take this Nord. And that’s all. Well, maybe they would threaten with a finger that doing so is not good. If they can’t, they would ask for an Israeli consultant who would teach how to act in such cases.
    2. Sauron80
      Sauron80 29 March 2018 17: 50
      +21
      oh well, what are we going to turn off to whom? for many years now they have been carrying their faces on the asphalt, and our Foreign Ministry is becoming more and more preoccupied
      1. cariperpaint
        cariperpaint 29 March 2018 18: 05
        0
        and what should the Foreign Ministry do? their work consists in that. speak and express.
      2. Borik
        Borik 29 March 2018 18: 05
        +7
        That's it, that just bothered, but in fact four days have passed. They thought they would purge another day and let go. It was necessary on the first day to start threatening with all the punishments and on the same day to capture two or three of their scandals and then make an exchange.
        1. asiat_61
          asiat_61 30 March 2018 01: 11
          +1
          How much can you threaten? How much air can you shake? Isn't it time to crack once on the arrogant erysipelas?
      3. Alf
        Alf 29 March 2018 20: 49
        0
        Quote: Sauron80
        oh well, what are we going to turn off to whom?

        "There are people."
    3. Kars
      Kars 29 March 2018 17: 51
      +7
      There is only one option. The same as with the border guards. He catches a Ukrainian ship .. a poacher .. and changes.
      1. svp67
        svp67 29 March 2018 17: 55
        +4
        Quote: Kars
        There is only one option. The same as with the border guards. He catches a Ukrainian ship .. a poacher .. and changes.

        Note ... we did not offer it .... hi
        1. Kars
          Kars 29 March 2018 18: 08
          +3
          Use)
          1. svp67
            svp67 29 March 2018 18: 19
            +3
            Quote: Kars
            Use)

            Take note ...
        2. Antares
          Antares 29 March 2018 23: 07
          0
          Quote: svp67
          Notice ... we didn’t suggest it ..

          I don’t know, he suggested, but the partners did such an exchange with the border guards. In both cases, they were presented with illegal border crossing. Well, exchanged.
    4. ARES623
      ARES623 29 March 2018 21: 03
      0
      Quote: Theodore
      And then turn off the gas! To everyone

      You just need to block the Kerch Strait for the Ukrainian merchant fleet. They will bring the ship with the crew in their arms, like the Argonauts. But it won’t help - to conduct a naval liberation operation. In fact, there is nothing to lose ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 29 March 2018 21: 27
        +2
        But sho, everything can be formalized according to the law! They have ATTORNED us as an aggressor! WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO AGGRESSIVE ACTION! And let’s go there for the okay! And the geyropa is afraid of any force, they are swaggering, swaggering, and their cemeteries do not let them forget OUR TRUE FORCE! How many "brave conquerors" there are not tons of poking around, buried!
      2. Antares
        Antares 29 March 2018 23: 10
        +1
        Quote: ARES623
        The Kerch Strait for the Ukrainian merchant fleet.

        An agreement that is in force? It clearly states that freedom of navigation is for the internal sea of ​​the Russian Federation and Ukraine. The Nord crew were presented with other violations against which the Russian Federation cannot even protest (since, according to the legislation of the Russian Federation, Crimea is part of the Russian Federation, and Ukraine and the world, Crimea are Ukraine.)
        1. ARES623
          ARES623 29 March 2018 23: 23
          +1
          Quote: Antares
          since according to the legislation of the Russian Federation, Crimea is part of the Russian Federation, and according to Ukraine and the world, Crimea is Ukraine

          In our opinion - the Russian Crimea, then our actions from our point of view are quite in the spirit of the situation. Moreover, the ship was not captured in the territorial waters of Ukraine (judging by the available information), thus the fact of Ukraine’s pirated behavior is on the face. And besides, if we don’t react now, then such cases will spill over, like from a cornucopia. Only in the face !!! But something is going wrong so far ...
    5. Sergey D_2
      Sergey D_2 29 March 2018 22: 19
      0
      [quote = THEODOR] And then turn off the gas! Everyone. [/ Quot
      Gas blackmail?
      1. Evgeniy667b
        Evgeniy667b 30 March 2018 03: 23
        0
        And Mr. Miller will do this ???
    6. Alexdark
      Alexdark 30 March 2018 02: 33
      0
      Yeah of course. But in reality, they will also throw a discount. Rags
    7. alenge
      alenge 31 March 2018 00: 50
      0
      And it infuriates me how many Americans arrested our people? And we have a reaction to the disregard for their citizens captured by Ukraine to this result
  2. Tersky
    Tersky 29 March 2018 17: 46
    +6
    Not,,, No. , the well-known proverb is wrong - "Until the thunder strikes, a man crosses himself." Thunder struck 25, baptized began 29.
    1. Theodore
      Theodore 29 March 2018 17: 49
      +1
      Then the fire happened! All attention was on who was to blame, and what to do!
      1. Sauron80
        Sauron80 29 March 2018 17: 51
        +6
        Foreign Ministry also engaged in fire?
        1. svp67
          svp67 29 March 2018 17: 57
          +3
          Quote: Sauron80
          Foreign Ministry also engaged in fire?

          The Foreign Ministry considered the "deported" diplomats. By the way, here is the new ChaPa ... A direct act of "aggression" of Russia against England.
          The plane of the airline "Russia" ran into a ground service officer at a London airport.
          I look forward to new sanctions and the next exiled diplomats ....
          1. himRa
            himRa 29 March 2018 18: 06
            +4
            Quote: svp67
            I look forward to new sanctions and the next exiled diplomats ....

            I am pleased to read your posts, colleague ...
            Quote: svp67
            The plane of the airline "Russia" ran into a ground service officer at a London airport.

            Well, scansations will not get off, at least they will require .....
            pay sick leave for this rotozey! laughing
            1. svp67
              svp67 29 March 2018 18: 09
              +3
              Quote: himRa
              Well, sanctions do not get off, at least they will require .....
              pay sick leave for this rotozey!

              And the main thing is not clear WHAT? The incident then occurred at the time of towing, and by the way, the plane is also damaged. So that does not interfere with the company that carried out the towing to demand money for repairs.
              In general, the British are cool experts ... to understand this, just look at it, and from where this "rotos" came from, the "Newcomer" sniffed ...
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 29 March 2018 20: 14
                +3
                More than a weird movie. The feeling is that the camera is installed above the clouds.
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 29 March 2018 18: 35
            +1
            Quote: svp67
            I look forward to new sanctions and the next exiled diplomats ...

            Already. Georgians woke up, they sent the ambassador. crying
            1. svp67
              svp67 29 March 2018 18: 43
              +4
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Already. Georgians woke up, they sent the ambassador.

              They don’t have our ambassador, nor do we have them ... They send an adviser to the Swiss embassy, ​​the one who carried out diplomatic contact between the Russian Federation and Georgia
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 29 March 2018 18: 50
                +1
                Yeah, I got it. Well then, let them rejoice.
        2. Fox
          Fox 29 March 2018 19: 09
          +3
          Quote: Sauron80
          Foreign Ministry also engaged in fire?

          just the Foreign Ministry, a proud bird ... until you kick, it will not fly!
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 29 March 2018 17: 55
        +2
        Quote: Theodore
        Then the fire happened! All attention was on who was to blame, and what to do!

        Lame excuse. Diplomacy to the fire no side.
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 29 March 2018 19: 42
          +3
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Diplomacy to the fire no side.

          M-yes, but I'm not sure. I would venture to suggest that a series of regular fires in crowded places in Russian cities over the past 6 months. or more, the SBU’s handiwork under the guidance of the tsrul
          Do I have the right to think so? There is no evidence. But the heavenly hundred on the Maidan allows us to think that way. Just do not blame me for inciting ethnic hatred. The terrorists do not have a nationality, they are all sizzling bastards and scum.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 29 March 2018 19: 50
            +1
            Quote: Balu
            I would venture to suggest that a series of regular fires in crowded places in Russian cities last 6 months. or more, SBU handiwork

            One can suppose anything, but so far there are no conclusions, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs has absolutely nothing to do there.
    2. himRa
      himRa 29 March 2018 17: 56
      +3
      Quote: Tersky
      Not ,,,, not right famous proverb

      Estonians virus? belay
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 29 March 2018 17: 57
        +3
        Quote: himRa
        Estonians virus?

        request Verbal diarrhea?
        1. himRa
          himRa 29 March 2018 18: 01
          +2
          Quote: Tersky
          Verbal diarrhea?

          Again Jewish habit of answering a question with a question laughing I recommend reading my posts smile
          And by the way, the proverb cast doubt on you
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 29 March 2018 18: 07
            +4
            Quote: himRa
            Again Jewish habit of answering a question with a question

            Yeah yes , I’m an officer’s daughter, I’m writing from Israel, and it’s not so simple here,
            . Only now, I don’t remember something, no matter how I would answer someone a question somewhere. Do not remind?
            Quote: himRa
            I recommend reading my posts

            And if I find something that contradicts the rules of VO?
            Quote: himRa
            And by the way, the proverb cast doubt on you
            So what? Is this a reason for trolling?
            1. himRa
              himRa 29 March 2018 18: 19
              +2
              Quote: Tersky
              And if I find something that contradicts the rules of VO?

              Threaten? You were indicated on my position and she is in my posts
              then you can fantasize the phrase yourself ...
              Quote: Tersky
              what? Is this a reason for trolling?

              He himself understood what he said!? Where is trolling here? As I understand it was a joke on your part off topic ..
              You run into rudeness in spite of your high rank ....
              1. Tersky
                Tersky 29 March 2018 18: 26
                +3
                Quote: himRa
                Are you threatening?

                God forbid, you yourself asked to go through your comments.
                Quote: himRa
                I realized what I said!? G

                We are long on you?
                Quote: himRa
                You run into rudeness in spite of your high rank ....

                The title in this case has nothing to do with it, but you have already allowed yourself rudeness.
                1. himRa
                  himRa 29 March 2018 18: 42
                  +2
                  Quote: Tersky
                  You’ve already rude yourself.

                  I must say that you allowed yourself to be rude ... in response to a joke
                  I think it is necessary to stop ,,, merika ,, in letters and apologize to each other hi
                  1. Tersky
                    Tersky 29 March 2018 19: 04
                    +3
                    Quote: himRa
                    I must say that you allowed yourself to be rude ... in response to a joke

                    If this is a joke, then label it with the appropriate emoticon, and everyone will understand that this is a joke, even to such "rude" as I
                    Quote: himRa
                    I think we need to stop,

                    I think that it is necessary.
            2. svp67
              svp67 29 March 2018 18: 21
              +3
              Quote: Tersky
              I’m an officer’s daughter, I’m writing from Israel, and it’s not so simple here,

              That's when all the secret becomes apparent ....
              1. Tersky
                Tersky 29 March 2018 19: 46
                +2
                Quote: svp67
                That's when all the secret becomes apparent ....

                laughing Here is the identity ..., just like Vysotsky’s in a famous song about those who drank water from a tap. yes
    3. Anti-Corr.
      Anti-Corr. 29 March 2018 18: 58
      0
      Quote: Tersky
      Thunder struck on the 25th, the baptism began on the 29th.

      Not before that, everyone switched to Kemerovo ....
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 29 March 2018 19: 44
        +2
        Quote: Anti-Corr.
        Not before that, everyone switched to Kemerovo ....

        And the Foreign Ministry too? What did he do there?
        1. Anti-Corr.
          Anti-Corr. 29 March 2018 19: 56
          +2
          Colleague, can you recall at least one case of a government promptly responding to international challenges or internal tragedies, with the exception of the dispersal of boys on the streets of Moscow?
          Quote: Tersky
          And the Foreign Ministry too?

          We watched how the international community would react ...
      2. Alexdark
        Alexdark 30 March 2018 02: 37
        +1
        Everyone has their own clear and excellent features. I see our state cannot work multithreadedly, let’s say so. Mattresses, won, and wages 17 (figuratively) wars, several countries are shaking the Maidan, some provocations, operations, analyzes and plans, etc., etc. Countless processes, all in real time on all fronts. Plus, everywhere plans for different outcomes have already been thought out, and also planned for the future.
        Here, a wonderful mechanism. A machine
        1. Alexdark
          Alexdark 30 March 2018 03: 28
          0
          Supplement even by their own comparison. Real tentacles, sea monster.
  3. svp67
    svp67 29 March 2018 17: 50
    +2
    Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova says Russia is demanding that Kiev immediately release the crew of the fishing vessel and return the vessel to its rightful owner
    In general, such words should be supported by a "diplomatic note"
  4. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 29 March 2018 17: 51
    +4
    Is it possible that in our Foreign Ministry they hired an Estonian as secretary? ((
    1. svp67
      svp67 29 March 2018 18: 22
      +2
      Quote: Archivist Vasya
      Is it possible that in our Foreign Ministry they hired an Estonian as secretary? ((

      No, there are too many secretaries and bureaucracy ...
  5. passing
    passing 29 March 2018 17: 51
    +7
    We call foreign policy “reactive,” because we only react. But, 4 days just for the reaction? This is overkill. In my opinion this is confusion.
  6. prapor75m
    prapor75m 29 March 2018 17: 53
    +4
    we have some kind of toothless power, everyone is waiting for something, pulling it, it can give the “steering wheel” to Shoigu with Gerasimov wink
  7. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 29 March 2018 17: 54
    +16
    Where is the operation of unidentified people in the port of Berdyansk? Or are they even embarrassed with junta junta shy of doing so? Well then, we’ll get: the captain will sit for a long time, they will confiscate the trough, and the team will be deported (and that’s good, if so ...) Where is the closure of the entire adjacent water area for sailing (primarily for large vessels in Ukrainian ports)? Why are you shy? Worse than it is, if it does, then not by much ...
    1. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 29 March 2018 18: 30
      +7
      Already the crews, in exchange for their Bendera, are seizing. The vessel will not be returned; over time, it is necessary to heat it with a new crew.
  8. taiga2018
    taiga2018 29 March 2018 17: 54
    +4
    maybe it's really time for Lavrov to rest, the reaction is not the same ...
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 29 March 2018 17: 57
      +6
      Quote: taiga2018
      maybe it's really time for Lavrov to rest, the reaction is not the same ...

      I do not believe that the sailors of the North did not signal where they should be. Why didn’t they send a pinwheel? I do not understand. Just hovering over the banderlogs would have fallen off.
      1. VALERIK_097
        VALERIK_097 29 March 2018 19: 50
        +3
        What prevented the captain of the “Nord” and, after receiving the command: “Stop the move, go to drift” send a radiogram, give anchors, drop the trawl boards. There are many ways to delay time.
        If you were really in neutral waters, there would be a spinner.
        As a rule, border guards (of any countries) do not leave their territory.
        In earlier comments, I already mentioned the "Electron" by Mr. V. Yarantsev and the BPC Severomorsk
  9. Graz
    Graz 29 March 2018 17: 56
    +2
    Quote: Kars
    There is only one option. The same as with the border guards. He catches a Ukrainian ship .. a poacher .. and changes.

    not a poacher, but the ship of one of their oligarchs must be arrested, an expensive ship with expensive cargo
  10. Ascetic
    Ascetic 29 March 2018 17: 57
    +6
    It is necessary to close the Kerch Strait to Ukrainian courts, or to sink a Ukrainian boat for violating the state border and acts of piracy, and to train the crew on the territory of the Russian Federation.
    First, of course, to warn, and if it doesn’t reach, it’s significant to destroy 1-2 Ukrainian boats getting into Russian waters or trying to attack a Russian ship or vessel.
    And this is all blah blah, it's time to put everyone in their place, Russia owes nothing to anyone
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 29 March 2018 18: 34
      0
      Quote: Ascetic
      It is necessary to close the Kerch Strait to Ukrainian courts

      Of course, this is the first thing we want to kick harder. We have enough forces for this. But such actions will have some complications. Namely, some time ago, the American admiral voiced NATO’s interest in strengthening its presence in the Black Sea and extending it to the sea. Azov. Strength against the Ukrainian Navy will be an excellent catalyst and a backdrop for satisfying such ambitions. We can get their naval base in Odessa and the air base near Kiev, and the devil knows what is near Kharkov. It seems that they have only been doing this lately ...
      And our people still need to be rescued (+ take measures so that there are no such troubles in the future). And this will have to be done as in the past times --- diplomatically (of course, not without the involvement of our special services), an eye for an eye. ? Changed, I’m sure that work is underway to identify such goals for exchange.
      1. Archivist Vasya
        Archivist Vasya 29 March 2018 18: 51
        +1
        In general, I agree. But all the same, it turns out that we are exchanging simple hard workers / sailors for real spies / saboteurs / terror terror ... not at all an equivalent exchange. Somehow it would be necessary to compensate.
      2. Karabin
        Karabin 29 March 2018 21: 10
        +2
        Force actions against the Ukrainian Navy will be an excellent catalyst and a backdrop for satisfying such ambitions. We can get their naval base in Odessa and the air base near Kiev and the devil knows what is near Kharkov.

        And by expressing our concerns, we will stop them !? In my opinion, the weak are not only beaten, but also humiliated.
        (+ take measures so that there will be no such troubles).

        So it can become
        excellent catalyst and background to meet
  11. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 29 March 2018 18: 02
    +4
    Maybe it's time to declare a part of the Black Sea dangerous for navigation due to piracy and drown any dill as a pirate?

    Joke. But wicked.
  12. ishkovam
    ishkovam 29 March 2018 18: 06
    +2
    What are the tolerants of the Midwest! At our expense only! What are these people among Nazi ukro ??? Today our fishermen were shown on TV - sorry for the guys ... obviously they are not happy ....
  13. Smoked
    Smoked 29 March 2018 18: 08
    +2
    The campaign will go down in the history of our Foreign Ministry.
  14. tchoni
    tchoni 29 March 2018 18: 09
    +2
    And what prevents to drive to Berdyansk the BDK with a battalion of marines, accompanied by a pair of RTOs?
    1. Antares
      Antares 29 March 2018 23: 13
      0
      Quote: tchoni
      And what prevents to drive to Berdyansk the BDK with a battalion of marines, accompanied by a pair of RTOs?

      maybe a sea of ​​blood, an act of open aggression, an acute phase of conflict and from floundering bay, this is not done on emotions?
      1. would
        would April 4 2018 13: 34
        0
        The act of open aggression does not interfere, but rather is the reason for this. If you do not know, then open aggression is expressed in the pirate seizure of the ship and the taking of the crew hostage. "Hostage taking" because the Ukrainian court officially recognized that the crew did not and did not delay.
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 29 March 2018 18: 12
    +3
    The Foreign Ministry understands this, they solve global problems. But this is where our sailors went, where all the border troops looked, on the Super Raptors. Or, again, another fake for show, we have them, but what a secret horror.
  16. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 29 March 2018 18: 13
    +1
    Clearly, it is necessary to respond. But I’ll speak in defense of the Foreign Ministry. There are problems with the whole world, and here also the ex-brothers were drawn. The main thing is that they reacted. And no brothers crawl more on their knees, like their ancestors.
  17. Rakti-kali
    Rakti-kali 29 March 2018 18: 13
    +1
    What prevented the Foreign Ministry from reacting to the actual hostage taking on the day of the capture

    For example, checking the vessel’s documents, documents permitting fishing, establishing the actual location of the vessel at the time of detention, and other circumstances of the incident. Or should the Russian Foreign Ministry become like the British leadership and start hysterically screaming before it understands what happened?
    But if the Ukrainian border guards still crawl into Russian territodes or cling to a Russian vessel in free waters - to drown and raise the signal "I am following my course."
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 29 March 2018 21: 13
      0
      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      But if the Ukrainian border guards still crawl into Russian territodes or cling to a Russian ship

      What then? Again in a circle
      checking the vessel’s documents, documents permitting fishing, establishing the actual location of the vessel at the time of detention, and other circumstances of the incident.
      1. Rakti-kali
        Rakti-kali 29 March 2018 23: 45
        0
        Quote: Karabin
        What then? Again in a circle

        As I understand it, the Chukchi is not a reader?
  18. Ural resident
    Ural resident 29 March 2018 18: 17
    +2
    ... Foreign Ministry demands from Kiev ...
    Interestingly, and if they refuse, then what? ...
    Somehow all this has already gone far ...
    I hope there is a clear plan of action, such that next time we’re afraid of approaching our ships
  19. 1536
    1536 29 March 2018 18: 24
    0
    Ostrich policy. We will soon find out many interesting things when the characters of the latest scandals begin to speak. Therefore, apparently, the Foreign Ministry is silent.
  20. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 29 March 2018 18: 28
    +5
    Well, the reaction! Four days to squeeze out a demand for release? Full pi..ts
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 29 March 2018 18: 38
      +4
      Quote: jetfors_84
      Well, the reaction! Four days to squeeze out a demand for release? Full pi..ts

      I thought, how would the Americans respond? Protests, notes? Or would they simply bomb the port and administration of Berdyansk together with the SBU building?
      1. Looking for
        Looking for 29 March 2018 18: 50
        +1
        Why bomb right away. A naval blockade would have been enough.
      2. Archivist Vasya
        Archivist Vasya 29 March 2018 19: 02
        0
        Well, this is too much) they would send a submarine with a group of specialists (cats, seals, who are they in the elite?) They would take to a quiet / loud building where their sailors are kept and home (taking the ship along the way and be able to sink the patrol boats of the APU). And before that they would set up an ultimatum and not concern.
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 29 March 2018 19: 46
          +3
          Quote: Archivist Vasya
          would send a submarine with a group of specialists (

          The depths of the Sea of ​​Azov are not suitable, if only underwater Buryat paratroopers.
  21. Machete
    Machete 29 March 2018 18: 46
    +2
    Cruiser to the port to drive and steer the ship.
    Do you think someone will interfere with him?
  22. Looking for
    Looking for 29 March 2018 18: 46
    +2
    Russians !!! You are not offended by the Russian Federation. ???
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 29 March 2018 21: 20
      +1
      Quote: Seeker
      Russians !!! You are not offended by the Russian Federation.

      The Russians are already used to it. But we have the Most Influential Resident, the Best Minister of Foreign Affairs Lavrov and the Cunning Plan.
    2. vasya.pupkin
      vasya.pupkin 30 March 2018 13: 33
      +2
      Quote: Seeker
      Russians !!! You are not offended by the Russian Federation. ???

      Sasha, your last name, by chance, is not GAPON?
  23. Roma 1977
    Roma 1977 29 March 2018 19: 11
    +9
    Does anyone else believe that in Syria, after a strike on Russian troops, NATO attack planes / ships will return fire?
  24. Vard
    Vard 29 March 2018 19: 14
    +3
    Ukraine is like a jackal ... if he senses that they won’t give change ... he bites ... how many times have you washed your face ... we’ll wash ourselves this time too ...
  25. seacap
    seacap 29 March 2018 19: 18
    +4
    It seems to me that this is not the Foreign Ministry that should react after 4 days, but the MO after 4 minutes, it seems that international terrorism and the protection of citizens and property of the Russian Federation are in its competence, it’s time to wean once and for all the impudent and uneducated hamlo to even think that it is possible with impunity and cynically spit on the Russian Federation.
  26. Radikal
    Radikal 29 March 2018 19: 20
    +6
    Only 4 days later, the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs officially reacted to the arrest by Ukrainian border guards of the Russian fishing vessel Nord with 10 crew members on board
    I already wrote a few days ago when the “Skripals scandal” began to flare up, that our Foreign Ministry had “late ignition,” and this is just another confirmation! And the Office should be ashamed in general that its coast guard does not catch mice! am
    1. nikolaev
      nikolaev 29 March 2018 19: 58
      +1
      in this case we can talk only about catching gobies
      1. nikolaev
        nikolaev 29 March 2018 20: 02
        0
        and if we talk about catching violins on the treble clef, then tsnnnn - a complete top-secret secret - everyone is silent ....
  27. mark_rod
    mark_rod 29 March 2018 19: 22
    +1
    Quote: Thunderbolt
    Quote: Ascetic
    It is necessary to close the Kerch Strait to Ukrainian courts

    Of course, this is the first thing we want to kick harder. We have enough forces for this. But such actions will have some complications. Namely, some time ago, the American admiral voiced NATO’s interest in strengthening its presence in the Black Sea and extending it to the sea. Azov. Strength against the Ukrainian Navy will be an excellent catalyst and a backdrop for satisfying such ambitions. We can get their naval base in Odessa and the air base near Kiev, and the devil knows what is near Kharkov. It seems that they have only been doing this lately ...
    .

    To Odessa from the Crimea 200 km. Let them build a base for health and put more ships there. With one salvo of the BAL, we’ll plant them at the bottom of the hour “H”.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 29 March 2018 21: 23
      +1
      Quote: mark_rod
      With one salvo of the BAL, we’ll plant them at the bottom of the hour “H”.

      Why BAL. Expensive Throw hats, hats!
    2. Antares
      Antares 29 March 2018 23: 15
      +1
      Quote: mark_rod
      With one salvo of the BAL, we’ll plant them at the bottom of the hour “H”.

      it is very strange that it is believed that only Odessa harbor can be covered in one gulp ... Does it happen about the vulnerability of any part of Crimea from the land side and the same sea? Or can rockets only fly in one direction?
      The vulnerability is mutual. It is still unknown who is there before whom.
  28. nikolaev
    nikolaev 29 March 2018 19: 23
    0
    yes on ... send an assault!
  29. Drlivsi
    Drlivsi 29 March 2018 19: 27
    +2
    "There is yet another provocative trick of the Ukrainian authorities against Russian citizens. With regard to the crew of the vessel, Ukrainian border guards acted just like Somali pirates. The crew of the vessel had all the necessary documents for fishing in the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov and worked in strict accordance with applicable fishing rules ... "
    And what were our border guards or the Navy doing at that time if it was in the international or territorial waters of Russia?
    1. nikolaev
      nikolaev 29 March 2018 19: 39
      0
      in addition to documents it was necessary to have a "Caliber"
  30. Radikal
    Radikal 29 March 2018 19: 27
    +1
    Quote: Anti-Corr.
    Quote: 210ox
    Arrest them all. And do not care about diplomacy!

    Virtually?

    good laughing hi
  31. Nikolay Bnv
    Nikolay Bnv 29 March 2018 19: 33
    +2
    Shame they demand and complain to their people that there is no way to block the exit from the Sea of ​​Azov to the Ukrainian fleet, and then to talk, and then complaints and requests for an extremely toothless power in the Kremlin ...
    1. nikolaev
      nikolaev 29 March 2018 19: 40
      +1
      one must act tough, otherwise they will not be respected.
      1. nikolaev
        nikolaev 29 March 2018 20: 05
        0
        just need a beautiful operation
  32. Dezinto
    Dezinto 29 March 2018 19: 53
    +3
    But it’s impossible that the Russian destroyer, some watchman, just silently came up threw the cables, took it in tow and silently went into the sunset, with all our sailors ........ I’m sure that the Ukropitek sailors won’t even twitch .... overclock but do not jerk ....
  33. Hiller
    Hiller 29 March 2018 20: 00
    +1
    Well, why did you think for four days? am
  34. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 29 March 2018 20: 28
    +2
    Our comprador authorities are not interested in what is not related to oil and gas production. Problems of the fishermen? These are their problems ! Get out yourself!
  35. Berg berg
    Berg berg 29 March 2018 20: 31
    +2
    Do not release the Crimean sailors, block the Kerch Strait for Ukraine!
  36. Dam
    Dam 29 March 2018 21: 02
    +1
    Do not escalate, they will be returned soon, just until every day before the start of World War 3 increases the chances of victory. It is difficult to possess the information of a private person, to predict actions at the front level
  37. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 29 March 2018 21: 27
    +1
    Quote: Theodore
    And then turn off the gas! To everyone.

    And you can detain conscripts of military age from Ukraine. My acquaintances in the summer cottages near Moscow will probably get a dozen-three, and most importantly, everything is like picking zapadentsy!
    To adore that we supposedly fled from the war, we don’t want to shoot at the brothers from the east.
    They do not need to be caught, passports were handed over before the end of construction work.
  38. New Year day
    New Year day 29 March 2018 21: 35
    +2
    Owner: Russian diplomats refused to help fishermen captured in Ukraine
    On March 26, the chairman of the May 1st Rybolovets Collective Farm contacted the consulate in Kharkov. They answered him that they could not help with anything other than calling lawyers, ”said Maxim Gorlanov, general director of the Crimean Coast company, to the newspaper VZGLYAD.
    https://vz.ru/news/2018/3/27/914565.html
  39. Vladislav_2
    Vladislav_2 29 March 2018 21: 42
    +1
    The ship was supposed to remain in the raid! ... but not at the pier. am
  40. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 29 March 2018 22: 16
    +1
    Quote: cariperpaint
    and what should the Foreign Ministry do? their work consists in that. speak and express.

    Unfortunately, many do not understand the essence of diplomacy: the ability to negotiate. And armed methods of influence are the essence of banditry, terrorism and the inability to negotiate. The recognition of their incompetence precisely in matters of diplomacy. In normal terms: armed bandits who dictate their opinions to the rest with the help of a butt at best are not diplomats at all, but ordinary rabble. That is why I consider our diplomats to be the best in the world. Because there are forces and means, but we are trying to agree in a civilized manner. Yes, it is possible and necessary to show force sometimes, but only if all civilized methods, that is, diplomatic methods, have been used. Once again: the use of force we undersigns in our incompetence and is likened to Western "diplomats", which in fact are bystanders.
    1. Uralean
      Uralean 30 March 2018 20: 59
      +2
      Nonsense .. This is your only opinion .. Which is not necessarily correct .. Many have a different opinion .. Your civilized methods of contracts can be shoved in z * d .. Minsk agreements show that for 4 years no agreements between the parties, TUPO are fulfilled .. And therefore, the Russian army should enter into force, and enforce the execution of agreements on the Azov Sea Basin (in this case) .. then everyone will quickly understand everything at once .. It has been proved many times in practice. A slap on the back of the head, more effective than long exhortations ..)
      1. Abrascha
        Abrascha April 2 2018 23: 37
        0
        Golden words, but I'm afraid the Kremlin will not hear them.
    2. Abrascha
      Abrascha April 2 2018 23: 49
      0
      That is, if you follow your logic, all these spits in the face and the lack of an adequate reaction to them, is it just the desire of the GDP to give yet another opportunity to the Russian Foreign Ministry and personally to Lavrov to increase his competence and professionalism? Like, the boy once again didn’t succeed and he once again screwed up in full, but we won’t despair, we will give him one more opportunity to show himself in business, in fact, he’s still, and now he’ll betray him.)) ))))))))))))))))))))))) Ah well done))))))))))))))))))))))
  41. VIa70286887
    VIa70286887 29 March 2018 22: 18
    0
    Give a day to release and you can hit a preemptive strike at airports and infrastructure.
  42. mitchhunter
    mitchhunter 29 March 2018 22: 28
    0
    What prevented the Foreign Ministry from responding to the actual seizure of Russians hostage on the day of the seizure, to put it mildly, is not entirely clear.

    And what prevented us from sailing our ship to our fleet, freeing the ship and crew by shooting a couple of invaders?
    1. Abrascha
      Abrascha April 2 2018 23: 35
      0
      Well, apparently the absence of such a seemingly simple thing as political will, terribly diffusive things in the leadership of the Russian Federation.)))))
  43. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 29 March 2018 22: 30
    +2
    Quote: DEZINTO
    But it’s impossible that the Russian destroyer, some watchman, just silently came up threw the cables, took it in tow and silently went into the sunset, with all our sailors ........ I’m sure that the Ukropitek sailors won’t even twitch .... overclock but do not jerk ....

    In principle, an option, but: everything needs to be coordinated and carried out in jewelry: the absence of coastal defense or serious means of fighting ships (after all, an invasion of the territory of a foreign state), plus no hiccups about anchoring, leaving the port, etc. All squeals and screams at the international level are answered in a standard way: to us ..!
    1. Abrascha
      Abrascha April 2 2018 23: 31
      0
      "Dreams, dreams, where are your sweets ...." To make this decision, you must have "the political will," and not ........................ .... in the head.))))
  44. Antares
    Antares 29 March 2018 23: 25
    0
    At the same time, the detention of "Nord" was carried out in international waters

    I draw your attention to the fact that the wording “neutral waters” has already been replaced by “international”. Although what are the international / neutral waters in the inland sea of ​​the Russian Federation and Ukraine (and A. M.’s status is that)?
    Agreement between the Russian Federation and Ukraine on cooperation in the use of the Sea of ​​Azov and the Kerch Strait (ratified by both parties in 2004). In this document - assigned to the category of inland waters of Russia and Ukraine.
    I also understand the mockery of the Ukrainian media (abound in frankly patriotic terms), but ignorance of the status of the Sea of ​​Azov as serious sources of information? The fall in the quality of information? Ignorance of the Internet?
    Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said that Russia is demanding that Kiev immediately release the crew members of the fishing vessel and return the vessel to its rightful owner. Recall that the owner is the Kerch fish farm.

    Russian partners are demanding something from Ukrainian. The Ukrainian partners are demanding something from the Russian ... For both, Krym-them! And the wording will be the opposite.
    The crew of the vessel had all the necessary documents for fishing in the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov and worked in strict accordance with applicable fishing rules.

    Someone enlighten Zakharov ... sometimes it seems to me that she is not busy with that and does not possess complete information.
    Show at least the wording of the border service at least ... To understand ... at least .. This is the Ministry of Foreign Affairs .. Ministry of Information Reports.
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  46. AID.S
    AID.S 30 March 2018 00: 19
    +1
    Quote: Balu
    And everyone entering, as in Poland, must loudly declare at the border: Bandera and Shukhevych, traitors and executioners of Ukraine, and sign a written statement about this.

    And upon return, reverse the action.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 March 2018 10: 02
      0
      This is about the "earned money" that go to work in Russia? Yes, let them go without a bid, live, work, maybe dope will be reduced.
  47. shuravi
    shuravi 30 March 2018 01: 36
    0
    Quote: Balu

    Vitaly, you, as always, offer the most radical option, but it does not roll. Think for yourself, why the hell is this Kiev and all of Ukraine with a collapsed economy?


    And you, however, are a white pet. You speak beautifully, but the essence is rotten and rushing. All your thoughts come down to the fact that, God forbid, God does not even decide to free their lands. Are you lobbying for US interests? However, what to ask is so obvious.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo April 1 2018 12: 50
      +1
      Quote: shuravi
      And you, however, are a white pet.
      belay
      Quote: shuravi
      You speak beautifully, but the essence is rotten and rushing.

      belay belay
      Quote: shuravi
      All your thoughts come down to the fact that, God forbid, God doesn’t decide to free her lands

      belay belay belay
      Quote: shuravi
      Are you lobbying for US interests?

      crying
      Quote: shuravi
      However, what to ask is so obvious.

      fool
    2. Abrascha
      Abrascha April 2 2018 23: 26
      0
      You say correctly, you feel the correct Soviet upbringing, but I’m afraid that in our time this will be considered extremely politically incorrect and diverging from the “party line”, in short, the people will not understand. Also banned nafig. (((((
  48. Iscan der
    Iscan der 30 March 2018 01: 36
    +1
    What a wretched helplessness! Russia has turned into a teryl country?
    In this case, the United States would have introduced a squadron of its ships to the port and, if necessary, would have rolled it into the sand!
    What is stopping Russia from sending three or four frigates and taking administrative buildings under the gun? After all, Ukraine has already seized and confiscated ships calling in the Crimea and will continue to do so if it does not get "on hands"!
    It has long been clear to everyone that a "good word and colt" sound much more convincing than just a "good word"!
    Well, no one ever responds to appeals to reason or to better human qualities (and even more so to "world law"), always a knife at the throat convinces scumbags, not words!
    1. Abrascha
      Abrascha April 2 2018 23: 19
      0
      I already wrote a little higher, dreaming is not harmful, it is harmful not to dream)))))
  49. solovald
    solovald 30 March 2018 05: 40
    +2
    Well, ordinary fishermen from Kerch, not fishermen from Gazprom ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 March 2018 09: 58
      +1
      And it’s easier to scoff at such people, no one will protect them, and dill people know this and will continue to scoff at them.
  50. vel1163
    vel1163 30 March 2018 05: 52
    +1
    Yes! There’s a toothless policy. After that, somehow I don’t really believe in the great and powerful army, which only does what it does not give in to provocations. And the Ukrainians are great! Dare and do it. So you look and the Crimea will return and the Donbass.
    1. Abrascha
      Abrascha April 2 2018 23: 13
      0
      Crimea, after all, is unlikely, there is the best bay at the World Cup, an ideal place for the fleet base, and the dough was swollen too much into the bridge, it will be a pity to give. Well, Donbas, certainly yes, they will definitely return it, it was already clear in May 2014. All that happened then is just an attempt by the people not to annoy much.)))))