The Russian Foreign Ministry demanded that Ukraine release the crew of the Nord. Not yet and ...

Only after 4 days in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia officially responded to the detention by the Ukrainian border guards of the Russian fishing vessel "Nord" with 10-th crew members on board. Recall that the Russian ship was escorted by Ukrainian coast guard ships to the port of Berdyansk on March 25. At the same time, the detention of “Nord” was carried out in international waters.

Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said that Russia is demanding that Kiev immediately release the crew members of the fishing vessel and return the vessel to its rightful owner. Recall that the owner is the Kerch fish farm.

Maria Zakharova at the briefing:

There is another provocative antics of the Ukrainian authorities in relation to the citizens of Russia. In relation to the crew of the vessel, the Ukrainian border guards acted simply as Somali pirates. The crew had all the necessary documents for the implementation of fisheries in the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov and worked in strict accordance with current fishing regulations.

What prevented the Foreign Ministry from responding to the actual seizure of Russians hostage on the day of the seizure, to put it mildly, is not entirely clear.
Recall that earlier the FSB of the Republic of Crimea opened a criminal case under the article “Hijacking a ship of air or water transport or railway rolling stock”.

Comments

[Theodore]

And then turn off the gas! To everyone.

[Baloo]

Quote: Theodore

And then turn off the gas! To everyone.

Send Ukrainian diplomats by the number of seafarers detained, sue.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: Balu

Send Ukrainian diplomats by the number of seafarers detained,

It will not give anything. Tough measures are needed here. How do countries bordering the United States behave? Either quietly, or receive a blockade / military response. Maybe the United States trades with countries that seize their ships, carry out sabotage on their territory? Nothing of the kind, for example, the US is constantly trying to stagger Venezuela, to realize the Maidan there. There are economic measures too. This is not a supply of blades for Mi-24 to the Ukrainian army aviation. In the United States, officials would go to federal prison for such supplies. The United States lowered the standard of living in Venezuela to poverty, and Russia has poured hundreds of billions into Ukraine over decades, in exchange for the lack of a Russian language in the state and banderization. In addition, Venezuela did not leave the United States. What would they do with Texas or California, if they try to separate and sit on the pipe, I’m scared to imagine.

[SRC P-15]

Where were our guard ships? Why not come to the rescue? Aviation finally! - Would have given a warning salvo.

[free]

Quote: SRC P-15

Where were our guard ships? Why not come to the rescue? Aviation finally! - Would have given a warning salvo.

Under the Union, this would not have been possible, they were even afraid to think about it.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

SRC P-15 And ​​where were our patrol ships? Why didn’t you come to the rescue? Aviation finally! - They would give a warning volley.

Apparently they do not pose such a task. This is not a capture of the rig. For example, the spring of 2016. The next attempt by the Navy in the person of the Smela U541 training boat to “verify documents” with the personnel + a group of Russian special forces located at the same Chernomorneftegaz B-312 and B-319 drilling rigs ends with the appearance of the very same Mirage MRK on the stage. The consequence of which is the victorious retreat of the “Courageous” towards Odessa ...

[Sergey Koryagin]

The union was even worse!

[Moore]

Quote: Sergey Koryagin

The union was even worse!

RK "Yorktown", EM "Keron", "SKR-6", "Bezavavetny", 12.02.1988/XNUMX/XNUMX - does any of these words and numbers say, or did they just run into a shit?

[Sergey Koryagin]

You chew your own derma! Have you heard anything about such situations in Morocco from 1981 -83? Only Fidel Castro solved the problem with the Moroccans within two days, and the USSR for a month or more. Total captains retired (for health) and crews home without a penny in your pocket .

[Someone from the fleet]

Quote: Moore

Quote: Sergey Koryagin

The union was even worse!

RK "Yorktown", EM "Keron", "SKR-6", "Bezavavetny", 12.02.1988/XNUMX/XNUMX - does any of these words and numbers say, or did they just run into a shit?

If you mean a ram when trying to expel from territorial waters, then of course it says.

[Mihail28]

Under the Union ... And what was filmed about the film "Pirates of the Twentieth Century"?
Only among the Soviet sailors were Velyaminov, Eremenko, they did not give offense, could protect themselves in any situation.

[Baloo]

Quote: Michael28

And what about the film "Twentieth Century Pirates" was shot?

The film is fiction and filmed in the Sea of ​​Azov. There were real cases, about one of them a film was made in the 50s or 60s.

Only among the Soviet sailors were Velyaminov, Eremenko, they did not give offense, could protect themselves in any situation.

Unfortunately, we do not know anything about the fate of our sailors, whom the Nazis interned a few days before the start of the Second World War. Some captains, who were forbidden to leave the ports, at their own peril and risk, under cover of night, anchored and tried to reach their homeland. That's about whom not a single movie was made. What do we see? According to Hollywood patterns, pretty series, where logic is inferior to absurdities

[Serg65]

Quote: free

Under the Union, this would not have been possible, they were even afraid to think about it.

Did you know this problem under the Union?

[free]

Quote: Serg65

Quote: free

Under the Union, this would not have been possible, they were even afraid to think about it.

Did you know this problem under the Union?

Here he is a liberal in all his glory, the Union does not give him rest, day or night!

[Serg65]

Quote: free

Here he is a liberal in all his glory, the Union does not give him rest, day or night!

respected revolutionary terrorist. you were only 90 years old in 9, and you may not know at all about the fate of the Soviet ship "Selenga". about the epic of the Tuapse tanker, about the seizure of the Sevastopol SRTMs, and how do you know, the story of your homeland is not of interest to you, give you a revolution!

[free]

Quote: Serg65

Quote: free

Here he is a liberal in all his glory, the Union does not give him rest, day or night!

respected revolutionary terrorist. you were only 90 years old in 9, and you may not know at all about the fate of the Soviet ship "Selenga". about the epic of the Tuapse tanker, about the seizure of the Sevastopol SRTMs, and how do you know, the story of your homeland is not of interest to you, give you a revolution!

And why did you get the idea that I’m a revolutionary terrorist, you don’t find a pretty serious accusation? And I don’t put the revolution as an end in itself, you also poked a finger at a well-known substance. Well, since you know this problem, enlighten me, do mercy, the Union’s reaction and consequences. And I'm not a master, I'm a comrade.

[Serg65]

Quote: free

And why did you get the idea that I am a revolutionary terrorist

I can smell you!

Quote: free

Union reaction and consequences

In the first two cases, they only expressed concern, in the third three months later they were released.

Quote: free

.And I'm not a master, I'm a comrade.

Comrade, you are for your friends, but not for me.

[free]

Quote: Serg65

Quote: free

And why did you get the idea that I am a revolutionary terrorist

I can smell you!

Quote: free

Union reaction and consequences

In the first two cases, they only expressed concern, in the third three months later they were released.

Quote: free

.And I'm not a master, I'm a comrade.

Comrade, you are for your friends, but not for me.

So I smell liberals for miles! I am a friend for my friends, this is true, and you are the master for all, without exception!

[Fedot57]

I don’t want to blame anyone, but our ship was captured by Taiwan in 1949 in my opinion, and only in 1962 they managed to free the sailors. Our Foreign Ministry and the state have always been very indifferent to the fate of the captured ships and all this nonsense about our naval special forces and all sorts of special groups there are just literary fiction. I will say one thing about this case, no one will do it and will not do it, the guys will be pressed, the ship will be sold, in short, you will see everything for yourself.

[TERIBER]

Gentlemen, I knew this problem during the alliance. A ship with the crew was captured in Sierra Leone in 1987. Ambassadors could not even release him. I stood for 18 days under armed guard. I was there.

[Serg65]

Quote: TERIBER

I was there .

According to the theory of Mr. Svobodny, you are the same liberal as I am, because you are definitely lying

[79807420129]

Quote: free

Under the Union, this would not have been possible, they were even afraid to think about it.

Correctly in the USSR it would not be possible since Ukraine was part of the USSR and the Sea of ​​Azov was the inland sea of ​​the USSR.

[ultra]

Quote: free

Under the Union, this would not have been possible, they were even afraid to think about it.

Of course it is impossible, then Ukraine was part of the USSR!

[sgazeev]

Quote: free

Quote: SRC P-15

Where were our guard ships? Why not come to the rescue? Aviation finally! - Would have given a warning salvo.

Under the Union, this would not have been possible, they were even afraid to think about it.

And under the Union there was a seizure of a ship near Taiwan, graters went for about a year. And here it is obvious from the supply of mattresses.

[free]

Quote: sgazeev

Quote: free

Quote: SRC P-15

Where were our guard ships? Why not come to the rescue? Aviation finally! - Would have given a warning salvo.

Under the Union, this would not have been possible, they were even afraid to think about it.

And under the Union there was a seizure of a ship near Taiwan, graters went for about a year. And here it is obvious from the supply of mattresses.

It was a matter of sending heads to the performers, the KGB worked.

[URAL72]

Under the Union? Yah! What about the capture of our ship by Taiwan? Then the sailors were not only detained, but also recruited to refuse to return to the union, even tortured. Enough and then such provocations.

[Serg65]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

Where were our patrol ships?

And the fisherman was captured in the Russian authorities? Or should a watchman follow each fisherman?
there is only one way out. the fishing area is determined and this area should be guarded by a Russian warship.

[Looking for]

The speed of such fishing vessels is no more than 8-10 knots. So it took me at least an hour to cross to Berdyansk (even under its own power). So, what could not be raised during this time, not only MI-24, but even would MI-8 with a pair of machine guns in order to stop the piracy of the Ukrainian border guards. Well, it doesn’t get !!!! -. to have such forces and so WRONG ????

[Nike]

Bravo Seeker!

[Baloo]

Quote: Seeker

So, what could not be raised during this time, not just MI-24, but at least MI-8 with a couple of machine guns in order to stop the piracy of the Ukrainian border guards. Well, it doesn’t reach !!!! -. Have such forces and so WRONG? ???

Exactly, so er ... ..... tsya !?

[sabakina]

Seeker, dill them all the connection chopped off, including and emergency.

[Kerensky]

Seeker, dill them all the connection chopped off, including and emergency.

Does the Cospas-Sorsat system no longer work? It is enough to throw the Mosquito emergency buoy into the water.

[Serg65]

Quote: Seeker

.to have such strength and so WRONG ????

Do you know all the details of this capture?

[Normal ok]

Quote: Seeker

So, what could not be raised during this time, not like MI-24, but at least MI-8 with a couple of machine guns

"Urgently send five motorcycles with machine guns" (Bulgakov. Master and Margarita)

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Seeker

The speed of such fishing vessels is no more than 8-10 knots. So it took me at least an hour to cross to Berdyansk (even under its own power). So, what could not be raised during this time, not only MI-24, but even would MI-8 with a pair of machine guns in order to stop the piracy of the Ukrainian border guards. Well, it doesn’t get !!!! -. to have such forces and so WRONG ????

Did the captain even give a distress signal or that the ship was arrested and escorted to Berdyansk? Maybe he stomped in silence mode to Berdyansk itself.

[verner1967]

Quote: Seeker

So, what could not be raised during this time, not just MI-24, but at least MI-8 with a couple of machine guns in order to stop the piracy of the Ukrainian border guards

On the ship (Russian), an inspection team, according to whom the queues of machine guns are to be granted, especially in foreign territorial waters (they must have reached them by that time)?

[free]

Quote: Serg65

Quote: СРЦ П-15

Where were our patrol ships?

And the fisherman was captured in the Russian authorities? Or should a watchman follow each fisherman?
there is only one way out. the fishing area is determined and this area should be guarded by a Russian warship.

The state must react harshly in such cases, very harshly! And the Foreign Ministry as a state representative expresses some concerns!

[Flyer_64]

Quote: SRC P-15

Where were our patrol ships?

Ours are guarded by a bridge and a strait. The fishermen themselves were somewhat to blame for the area far from what was claimed. Why is the reaction belated? It was believed that poached. Now it has changed.

[verner1967]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

Where were our guard ships? Why not come to the rescue? Aviation finally! - Would have given a warning salvo.

In your opinion, do airplanes sit on every fishing trawler or seiner? How do you imagine this process, access to the radio frequencies of the VKS or Navy? Most importantly, another 24 quacks found support

[LSA57]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

and for decades, Russia has poured hundreds of billions into Ukraine

Well, why poured. pour in.
I took a photo myself

[Baloo]

Quote: LSA57

Well, why poured. pour in.

Indeed, on the next branch there is a caustic article about Kostin, the leader of VTB.
I even thought, where will this money go from Ukraine?

[Normal ok]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

US constantly trying to reel Venezuela

Venezuela does not need to wobble. She herself has been staggering for a long time.

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

US lowered living standards in Venezuela to poverty

Venezuela was ruined by the populism of leadership. And poverty there is a natural result of Sharikov’s paradigm: “divide everything”.

[AID.S]

Quote: Normal ok

Venezuela does not need to wobble. She herself has been staggering for a long time.

Quote: Normal ok

Venezuela dies populism leadership

Buried early. The presidential elections in May will show what and how.

[11 black]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

It will not give anything. Tough measures are needed here. How do countries bordering the United States behave? Either quietly, or receive a blockade / military response. Maybe the United States trades with countries that seize their ships, carry out sabotage on their territory? Nothing of the kind, for example, the US is constantly trying to stagger Venezuela, to realize the Maidan there. There are economic measures too. This is not a supply of blades for Mi-24 to the Ukrainian army aviation. In the United States, officials would go to federal prison for such supplies. The United States lowered the standard of living in Venezuela to poverty, and Russia has poured hundreds of billions into Ukraine over decades, in exchange for the lack of a Russian language in the state and banderization. In addition, Venezuela did not leave the United States. What would they do with Texas or California, if they try to separate and sit on the pipe, I’m scared to imagine.

The USA is a parasitic metropolis in its worst incarnation and, to put it mildly, not the best role model.
The United States will trade with Venezuela - if it is beneficial to them, then it is necessary. The thing is that Russians, unlike Americans, do not kill innocents for money and do not ruin other people's homes for their own standard of living.
America is a parasite stuck to humanity, we are not like them - and that's great.
By the way - explain your comment about hundreds of billions - again unproven nonsense? And by the way - Venezuela with one letter "c" - you are an expert on our Russian language.
PS - you would have better studied the capture of the American intelligence agent Pueblo during the years of the USSR - the same story, and then the Americans could not do anything even with their fleet - pirates are pirates. You can’t put security on every ship.

[svp67]

Quote: Balu

Send Ukrainian diplomats by the number of seafarers detained, sue.

There is another way, but ours is unlikely to go for it ... Ukrainians, since the collapse of the USSR, we have been fishing in our Far East ...

[himRa]

Quote: svp67

There is another way

I also think (I'm sure) that if desired, ours can step on ,, callus ,, painfully unacceptably

[Baloo]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Balu

Send Ukrainian diplomats by the number of seafarers detained, sue.

There is another way, but ours is unlikely to go for it ... Ukrainians, since the collapse of the USSR, we have been fishing in our Far East ...

It means to cancel visa-free, except for refugees with LDNR. And everyone entering, as in Poland, must loudly declare at the border: Bandera and Shukhevych, traitors and executioners of Ukraine, and sign a written statement about this.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

What prevented the Foreign Ministry from responding to the actual seizure of Russians hostage on the day of the seizure, to put it mildly, is not entirely clear.

So it was calculated that Russia would begin to show "concern" ..
I would generally prohibit on “our media” even the mention of Ukraine and their squeals and provocations ..
I remember during the second Chechen one, everything abruptly died down in the media of "ours and not ours" .. Only the dry facts are short ... Let them scream on the Internet and fight in the epilepsy! I think it would work with Ukraine too! We are constantly bred for excuses and all sorts of "concerns" .. It's time to start working men to restore Great Russia! And do not pay attention to the barking of any mongrels and provocateurs .... The caravan is going in the right direction !!!
These are the things in the tank troops ..

[Alex777]

I do not understand what problems with the answer?
We put the barrier under the famous Bridge, lower it and that's it. The next day, all will be returned and never touch again.

[Evgeniy667b]

By the way, this week there was an incident between Russian border guards and DNR poachers with the shooting that the marriage started!

[Rakti-kali]

Quote: Evgeniy667b

By the way, this week there was an incident between Russian border guards and DNR poachers with the shooting that the marriage started!

Pffff ... here these incidents are almost daily, marriages from the adjacent territory (both in Ukraine, and in the DPR) almost climb the Miussky estuary to put networks.

[sapporo1959]

Do you think instead of preoccupation it’s better to get up with a crustacean or what? You, as a tanker, understand it, but do we not understand it for ordinary people as it is? It’s like announcing these concerns to a rowdy neighbor at least every other day, but until he gets into his horn, they don’t understand. and repairs, already sparks from the roof fly .. But I crashed a couple of times and the man, having realized his mistakes, already approached the wiring and stopped ...

[StVahmistr]

..It's time to start working men to restore Great Russia! And do not pay attention to the barking of any mongrels and provocateurs .... The caravan is going in the right direction !!!

He has been restoring it since 2000 and will not restore it at all, constantly showing concern and wagging at something .... And which direction is right?

[210ox]

No! Act in a rude way! Arrest them all. And spit on diplomacy!

Quote: Balu

Quote: Theodore

And then turn off the gas! To everyone.

Send Ukrainian diplomats by the number of seafarers detained, sue.

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: 210ox

Arrest them all. And do not care about diplomacy!

Virtually?

[210ox]

Well, since there is no Faberge, it means virtually. Yes, and the world Cup interferes

Quote: Anti-Corr.

Quote: 210ox

Arrest them all. And do not care about diplomacy!

Virtually?

[Lavrenti Pavlovich]

Quote: Balu

Quote: Theodore

And then turn off the gas! To everyone.

Send Ukrainian diplomats by the number of seafarers detained, sue.

It is necessary for a group of ships of the Russian Navy to come close to the port where the vessel is held and send one or two rooks, under the guise of the Navy. Otherwise, capture the port and the city and exchange it for the crew.

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich

It is necessary for a group of ships of the Russian Navy to come close to the port where the vessel is held and send one or two rooks, under the guise of the Navy. Otherwise, capture the port and the city and exchange it for the crew.

And you are a colleague, a radical! You can, of course, block the Mariupol and Berdyansk ports or ban the passage through the Kerch Strait, but these are not our methods, we have Zakharova and Lavrov, and the ambassador on the outskirts and marmots with a bear bear are super negotiators. It’s okay, the Imperials, everything will work out, we have an excellent foreign policy, now we’ll take up the domestic one.

[okko077]

Why so hard? Stop the passage of any Ukrainian ship, send the assault group on board and throw the forbidden .... And arrest, and then exchange. Extremely simple with videos and protocols ....

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: okko077

Why so hard? Stop at the transition of any Ukrainian ship

Quote: okko077

throw the forbidden ..

Valera, are you not a police officer? Well, it’s not with us, there are still international standards ... although I’m talking about something, then it’s better to leave the bomb and shob ...

[Antares]

Quote: Anti-Corr.

ambassador to

no ambassador there ... only an attorney

[11 black]

Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich

It is necessary for a group of ships of the Russian Navy to come close to the port where the vessel is held and send one or two rooks, under the guise of the Navy. Otherwise, capture the port and the city and exchange it for the crew.

In the exact same situation, even the Americans, having the strongest fleet in the world, did not go for such measures. We discussed and came to the conclusion that in this situation no one from that crew would remain alive, and the ship would most likely not be pulled out ...
Response measures are needed here, but completely different — for example, to send 70 thousand labor migrants from the country — 10 thousand for each hostage (and preferably 20 or 30 thousand migrants) —you will look and think it over.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Balu

Quote: Theodore

And then turn off the gas! To everyone.

Send Ukrainian diplomats by the number of seafarers detained, sue.

No and no again!
That's when PMC would be needed. Rather, MTR camouflaged by PMCs. They would break into the port, free the crew and the ship. In the process, destroying the boats of the border dill service. And try to get to the bottom - the collective farm hired PMCs to return its property and its workers.

[Baloo]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

That's when PMC would be needed. Rather, MTR camouflaged by PMCs. They would break into the port, free the crew and the ship. In the process, destroying the boats of the border dill service. And try to get to the bottom - the collective farm hired PMCs to return its property and its workers.

That's it. PSC fulfilled its obligations under the contract.

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

That's when PMC would be needed. Rather, MTR camouflaged by PMCs. They would break into the port, free the crew and the ship. In the process, destroying the boats of the border dill service.

And they would have captured kuev

[Baloo]

Quote: Anti-Corr.

And they would have captured kuev

why the hell to us with all this rubbish?
I would venture to suggest that the purpose of the provocation is another show with both Savchenko and her fake accomplices from the SBU, in order to then bargain for an exchange of real terrorists captured by the FSB with evidence to prepare for terrorist attacks, and I mean not only Sentsova. Although I could be wrong. As I understand it, the fishermen were captured in neutral waters. Then why is the prosecutor’s office silent and no case has been opened on the seizure of the ship and the abduction of Russian citizens?

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: Balu

Then why is the prosecutor’s office silent and not a case has been opened on the seizure of a ship and the abduction of Russian citizens?

Kerch prosecutors seem to be "excited"?

Quote: Balu

to then bargain for an exchange for real terrorists captured by the FSB with evidence to prepare for terrorist attacks

A colleague, of course, this development should be considered, but I am more concerned about the 90-strong Ukrainian grouping on the borders and in the neighboring areas of the LDNR.

[Baloo]

Quote: Anti-Corr.

And statements parashka about ATO transfer to the combined-arms operation, how is it?

The Kiev organized crime group, which has lost real estate in the Crimea and the Donbass, will never calm down.
The grouping of "instructors" from the USA, Europe and even from Canada itself is growing. They will not trample on Russia, realizing that they will be destroyed. But they will try to cut off LDNR from the sea and the border with Russia. While pushing through the question of peacekeepers. Already, the Swedes wanted to get another pendulum. It will be fun if the Vatican and Luxembourg send someone else. I can imagine how the Scots will flanch across the steppes of Ukraine.
I would venture to suggest that the tsarlom hands of the SBU will try to eliminate the political and military leadership of the LDNR. This will be a kars missile signal to attack. If Russia introduces its troops, this will be a signal to NATO, as well as to the collapse of Ukraine as "neighbors", as if to protect its compatriots-Hungarians, Poles, etc. While there is a company to isolate Russia and demonize its peoples and political leadership.
I have no doubt that there was no “newcomer” to the Skripals case. Fentanyl was injected through the clothes (used in anesthesiology for general anesthesia), then anointed with a brush one of the components of the "novice" (this binary BOV is dangerous only when the components are connected) here, there. In the Litvinenko case, I am sure there was no polonium either. First they poisoned with some kind of neurotropic poison (like a rat with waist and cadmium), then they marked with polonium tracks the routes of movement and so on.
But this is just my guess.

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: Balu

But this is just my guess.

Your versions have a right to life Only they no longer have any significance, except for us. The process has started, and if the Britons used to talk about the violin as a supposed crime, now the rhetoric is reduced to the fact that this is a fait accompli. Well, what next, and then we will reap the fruits of our "unusually successful foreign policy."

[New Year day]

Quote: Balu

Then why is the prosecutor’s office silent and not a case has been opened on the seizure of a ship and the abduction of Russian citizens?

The FSB Directorate for Crimea opened a case against the crew of the Ukrainian State Border Service, which on March 25 was detained by the Nord seiner, flying ten Russian flags, with ten crew members who are Russian citizens.

The case was opened under the article "Theft of a ship by air or water transport or railway rolling stock."

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Anti-Corr.

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Anti-Corr. (Alex) Yesterday, 18:49 ↑
Quote: Krasnoyarsk
That's when PMC would be needed. Rather, MTR camouflaged by PMCs. They would break into the port, free the crew and the ship. In the process, destroying the boats of the border dill service.

And they would have captured kuev

In no case. Why does Russia need this headache? First, it is necessary that Kiev itself understands what he has done. Yes, understanding this will take many years. But this is better than fighting the terror and partisanism in the event of a military capture of Kiev for as many years.

[11 black]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

No and no again!
That's when PMC would be needed. Rather, MTR camouflaged by PMCs. They would break into the port, free the crew and the ship. In the process, destroying the boats of the border dill service. And try to get to the bottom - the collective farm hired PMCs to return its property and its workers.

"Free"? A native Russian would never have betrayed such a thing - not even a loser.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: 11 black

"Free"? A native Russian would never have betrayed such a - even a loser

Those. Have you ever made typos? Hats off to a genius !!!

[11 black]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Those. Have you ever made typos? Hats off to a genius !!!

I explain.
1) The letter "A" on the keyboard is separated from the letter "O" by 2 keys.
2) When typing, the letter O is printed with the right hand, and the letter A with the left.
You can "seal" only by pressing the next key, and you missed it very, very much - that is, you didn’t "seal", but you made a mistake. Moreover, they were mistaken as no native speaker would ever have been mistaken - hence the conclusion ...

Quote: 11 black

"Free"? A native Russian would never have betrayed such a thing - not even a loser.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: 11 black

1) The letter "A" on the keyboard is separated from the letter "O" by 2 keys.
2) When typing, the letter O is printed with the right hand, and the letter A with the left.
You can "seal" only by pressing the next key, and you missed it very, very much - that is, you didn’t "seal", but you made a mistake. Moreover, they were mistaken as no native speaker would ever have been mistaken - hence the conclusion ...

Sasha, calm down already. I am 64 and + hypertension. I have a wild headache this hour and I type with one hand, and I got acquainted with the keyboard a year ago. So, put me a deuce and calm down in your genius. Yes, in order to give you even greater pleasure, I confess, I had a troika in Russian in school. Sasha, have I satisfied you? I agree with you, you know the Russian language better than Kuprin, Leskov, all the Tolstoys, I'm not talking about Pushkin, Derzhavin and other geniuses. I do not argue. You are the best. Did I reassure you?

[11 black]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Sasha, calm down already.

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

I agree with you, you know the Russian language better than Kuprin, Leskov, all the Tolstoys, I'm not talking about Pushkin, Derzhavin and other geniuses. I do not argue. You are the best. Did I reassure you?

I’m calm, but you, as I see, are not very ...

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

me 64 and + hypertension. I now have a wild headache and I type with one hand, and I got acquainted with the keyboard a year ago.

Then my advice to you is to sit at the computer less and breathe more fresh air. In a healthy body, as they say, a healthy mind! Take the pill ... otherwise I’m scared to imagine how much time you typed in the comment if the spread of the fingers is three keys.

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Yes, in order to give you even greater pleasure, I confess, I had a troika in Russian in school.

Chur me - I do not need such pleasure. But to be honest - I can’t imagine how you can seal on three keys.
One tip - before confirming the comment - read it again, then there will be no such incidents - such errors can ruin the whole meaning of the comment. It’s like at a presentation - even if your report shines with genius, but if you make a mistake in the obvious word and the audience will tear you, you won’t be saved.
Also here ... I think it is obvious to everyone that on this site, like on many others, a whole squad of payroll trolls works, and such errors immediately raise suspicions.

[Romulus]

Quote: 11 black

Also here.

Fat plus - in one gate as they say did)

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: 11 black

Then my advice to you is to sit at the computer less and breathe more fresh air. In a healthy body, as they say, a healthy mind! Take the pill ... otherwise I’m scared to imagine how much time you typed in the comment if the spread of the fingers is three keys.

No, I'm typing fast enough, that's why it's a typo. I make a reservation, you, of course, faster. But I'm happy with that anyway.

Quote: 11 black

I’m calm, but you, as I see, are not very ...

If you are so calm, why did you make such a squeal? Because of such nonsense as a typo. It’s just that, as I understand it, you don’t like my position, but you cannot oppose anything. So they decided to "take me away" with my illiteracy. You know what I’ll tell you - an intelligent person will never boast of his intelligence before a stupid one. Because it is unworthy of the smart. If you were a well-mannered person, you would not reproach me mockingly for an alleged error (after all, this is your speculation), but rather tactfully say - you have a typo there, be careful in the future. And I would thank you. But you acted differently than allowed me to create a rather unflattering opinion about you.
Thank you for the advice, of course.

Quote: 11 black

But to be honest - I can’t imagine how you can seal on three keys.

It only speaks of your meager imagination.

Quote: 11 black

Also here ... I think it is obvious to everyone that on this site, like on many others, a whole squad of payroll trolls works, and such errors immediately raise suspicions. hi

Those. You want to say that salary trolls are sure to write with spelling mistakes?
Well, this speaks of your mental abilities. Yes, and badly brought up! In general, the picture is clear. I wish you hello.

[Herculesic]

This is the result of the fact that Mariupol and Berdyansk were left behind ukroina, and they were not allowed to take them to the republics in the 14th year! And similar with our seiners and trawlers will now be "in the order of things", unfortunately.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Herkulesich

This is the result of the fact that Mariupol and Berdyansk were left behind ukroina, and they were not allowed to take them to the republics in the 14th year! And similar with our seiners and trawlers will now be "in the order of things", unfortunately.

Not! If you give a tough answer on the first occasion. And Russia, as always, mumbles. And the point is not in Berdyansk and Mariupol. The point is the toothlessness of Russia.
Of course, you can’t attach security to each seiner. But if that happened, it was necessary to conduct a military operation to free him. I am sure that the world community would not condemn. And if they captured the dill service boats “captured”, Russia would have discouraged any dill from dill to repeat this.

[Alf]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

I am sure the world community would not condemn

And the world community is, excuse me, who? Only 2 countries - the USA and England - come to mind. The rest are American sixes, which no one calls them at all.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Quote: Herkulesich

This is the result of the fact that Mariupol and Berdyansk were left behind ukroina, and they were not allowed to take them to the republics in the 14th year! And similar with our seiners and trawlers will now be "in the order of things", unfortunately.

Not! If you give a tough answer on the first occasion. And Russia, as always, mumbles. And the point is not in Berdyansk and Mariupol. The point is the toothlessness of Russia.
Of course, you can’t attach security to each seiner. But if that happened, it was necessary to conduct a military operation to free him. I am sure that the world community would not condemn. And if they captured the dill service boats “captured”, Russia would have discouraged any dill from dill to repeat this.

You are clearly a provocateur! If you make such a noise because of every rusty ship .. It will be constant! .. You don’t need to spray on the little things .. Our goal is Kiev! And he will be ours, without Bandera and other riffraffers ..

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: MIKHAN

You are clearly a provocateur! If you make such a noise because of every rusty ship .. It will be constant! .. You don’t need to spray on the little things .. Our goal is Kiev! And he will be ours, without Bandera and other riffraffers .. soldier

When there is nothing to argue they hang up a label - a provocateur. The simplest did not reach your wise brains - an insult was inflicted on Russia. She spit in the face and she wiped herself off.
Just think - a "rusty ship". Just think - they spat in my face, but today I didn’t wash myself. "Our goal is Kiev!" So I see you with an attached bayonet and going on the attack.
Russia itself is to blame for the fact that it is constantly all (!) Karl, everyone (!) Is constantly humiliating and insulting. And she habitually wipes herself and exclaims with your mouth - our goal is blah, blah, blah !!!

[Baloo]

Quote: MIKHAN

Our goal is Kiev! And he will be ours, without Bandera and other riffraffers ..

Vitaly, you, as always, offer the most radical option, but it does not roll. Think for yourself, why the hell is this Kiev and all of Ukraine with a collapsed economy?
They promised the Donbass, we help as much as we can, our possibilities are not unlimited.

[sogdy]

Quote: MIKHAN

You are clearly a provocateur! If you make such a noise because of every rusty ship .. It will be constantly! .. You don’t need to spray on the little things .. Our goal is Kiev! And he will be ours, without Bandera and other riffraff.

Quote: Balu

Vitaly, you, as always, offer the most radical option, but it does not roll. Think for yourself, why the hell is this Kiev and all of Ukraine with a collapsed economy?

That is, on the first question, do you agree?

[asiat_61]

Of course it's better to chew snot.

[Baloo]

Quote: Herkulesich

This is the result of the fact that Mariupol and Berdyansk were left behind ukroina, and they were not allowed to take them to the republics in the 14th year!

Vitalich, maybe the militias did not have the resources to hold these territories later?

Quote: Herkulesich

And similar with our seiners and trawlers will now be "in the order of things", unfortunately.

It seems like that. The proposal to block the entrance under the Crimean bridge for Ukrainian courts may violate international law, which, like Russia, no one seems to observe in this region. Bandera must once again hit the money. In Russia, that there is no business of Ukrainian oligarchs and Kiev organized crime groups? We must, we must nightmare, let them move and learn to respect Russia, once they have prepared emergency airfields in Russia.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Herkulesich

This is the result of the fact that Mariupol and Berdyansk were left behind ukroina, and they were not allowed to take them to the republics in the 14th year! And similar with our seiners and trawlers will now be "in the order of things", unfortunately.

Vitalyevich, but the fact that the blatant Saxons brazenly burst into a Russian plane (i.e., into Russian territory) and held a shmon there, without observing legal norms, is this also because they did not take Mariupol?
And in my opinion this is due to the fact that Russia suffered without will.

[rocket757]

Would suggest a changelog, diplomats to fishermen! But shaw, we are ASIAN, we POSITION by breed!
And see all civilizational husk, one harm from it!
Today they again broadcast on the radio - our "Western partners" carried out UNFROMAL actions ???? They sho mock all of us? No quotes are visible on the radio. It's time to tell the truth - THE ENEMY has committed the ACT of WAR! -

[pvv113]

Do not send, but exchange for sailors

[Slovak]

Quote: Balu

Quote: Theodore

And then turn off the gas! To everyone.

Send Ukrainian diplomats by the number of seafarers detained, sue.

It makes no sense. Another thing is the Black Sea Fleet can selectively either drive back to the stall or escort any Ukrainian vessel to itself.

[Yuri Lazarev]

Arrest, not expel. As representatives of a terrorist state.

[SlavaS]

do not send but delay

[Blondy]

Lord - business then. Well, they would send a squad of corbles, they would take this Nord. And that’s all. Well, maybe they would threaten with a finger that doing so is not good. If they can’t, they would ask for an Israeli consultant who would teach how to act in such cases.

[Sauron80]

oh well, what are we going to turn off to whom? for many years now they have been carrying their faces on the asphalt, and our Foreign Ministry is becoming more and more preoccupied

[cariperpaint]

and what should the Foreign Ministry do? their work consists in that. speak and express.

[Borik]

That's it, that just bothered, but in fact four days have passed. They thought they would purge another day and let go. It was necessary on the first day to start threatening with all the punishments and on the same day to capture two or three of their scandals and then make an exchange.

[asiat_61]

How much can you threaten? How much air can you shake? Isn't it time to crack once on the arrogant erysipelas?

[Alf]

Quote: Sauron80

oh well, what are we going to turn off to whom?

"There are people."

[Kars]

There is only one option. The same as with the border guards. He catches a Ukrainian ship .. a poacher .. and changes.

[svp67]

Quote: Kars

There is only one option. The same as with the border guards. He catches a Ukrainian ship .. a poacher .. and changes.

Note ... we did not offer it ....

[Kars]

Use)

[svp67]

Quote: Kars

Use)

Take note ...

[Antares]

Quote: svp67

Notice ... we didn’t suggest it ..

I don’t know, he suggested, but the partners did such an exchange with the border guards. In both cases, they were presented with illegal border crossing. Well, exchanged.

[ARES623]

Quote: Theodore

And then turn off the gas! To everyone

You just need to block the Kerch Strait for the Ukrainian merchant fleet. They will bring the ship with the crew in their arms, like the Argonauts. But it won’t help - to conduct a naval liberation operation. In fact, there is nothing to lose ...

[rocket757]

But sho, everything can be formalized according to the law! They have ATTORNED us as an aggressor! WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO AGGRESSIVE ACTION! And let’s go there for the okay! And the geyropa is afraid of any force, they are swaggering, swaggering, and their cemeteries do not let them forget OUR TRUE FORCE! How many "brave conquerors" there are not tons of poking around, buried!

[Antares]

Quote: ARES623

The Kerch Strait for the Ukrainian merchant fleet.

An agreement that is in force? It clearly states that freedom of navigation is for the internal sea of ​​the Russian Federation and Ukraine. The Nord crew were presented with other violations against which the Russian Federation cannot even protest (since, according to the legislation of the Russian Federation, Crimea is part of the Russian Federation, and Ukraine and the world, Crimea are Ukraine.)

[ARES623]

Quote: Antares

since according to the legislation of the Russian Federation, Crimea is part of the Russian Federation, and according to Ukraine and the world, Crimea is Ukraine

In our opinion - the Russian Crimea, then our actions from our point of view are quite in the spirit of the situation. Moreover, the ship was not captured in the territorial waters of Ukraine (judging by the available information), thus the fact of Ukraine’s pirated behavior is on the face. And besides, if we don’t react now, then such cases will spill over, like from a cornucopia. Only in the face !!! But something is going wrong so far ...

[Sergey D_2]

[quote = THEODOR] And then turn off the gas! Everyone. [/ Quot
Gas blackmail?

[Evgeniy667b]

And Mr. Miller will do this ???

[Alexdark]

Yeah of course. But in reality, they will also throw a discount. Rags

[alenge]

And it infuriates me how many Americans arrested our people? And we have a reaction to the disregard for their citizens captured by Ukraine to this result

[Tersky]

Not,,, , the well-known proverb is wrong - "Until the thunder strikes, a man crosses himself." Thunder struck 25, baptized began 29.

[Theodore]

Then the fire happened! All attention was on who was to blame, and what to do!

[Sauron80]

Foreign Ministry also engaged in fire?

[svp67]

Quote: Sauron80

Foreign Ministry also engaged in fire?

The Foreign Ministry considered the "deported" diplomats. By the way, here is the new ChaPa ... A direct act of "aggression" of Russia against England.

The plane of the airline "Russia" ran into a ground service officer at a London airport.

I look forward to new sanctions and the next exiled diplomats ....

[himRa]

Quote: svp67

I look forward to new sanctions and the next exiled diplomats ....

I am pleased to read your posts, colleague ...

Quote: svp67

The plane of the airline "Russia" ran into a ground service officer at a London airport.

Well, scansations will not get off, at least they will require .....
pay sick leave for this rotozey!

[svp67]

Quote: himRa

Well, sanctions do not get off, at least they will require .....
pay sick leave for this rotozey!

And the main thing is not clear WHAT? The incident then occurred at the time of towing, and by the way, the plane is also damaged. So that does not interfere with the company that carried out the towing to demand money for repairs.
In general, the British are cool experts ... to understand this, just look at it, and from where this "rotos" came from, the "Newcomer" sniffed ...

[sabakina]

More than a weird movie. The feeling is that the camera is installed above the clouds.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: svp67

I look forward to new sanctions and the next exiled diplomats ...

Already. Georgians woke up, they sent the ambassador.

[svp67]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Already. Georgians woke up, they sent the ambassador.

They don’t have our ambassador, nor do we have them ... They send an adviser to the Swiss embassy, ​​the one who carried out diplomatic contact between the Russian Federation and Georgia

[Mordvin 3]

Yeah, I got it. Well then, let them rejoice.

[Fox]

Quote: Sauron80

Foreign Ministry also engaged in fire?

just the Foreign Ministry, a proud bird ... until you kick, it will not fly!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Theodore

Then the fire happened! All attention was on who was to blame, and what to do!

Lame excuse. Diplomacy to the fire no side.

[Baloo]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Diplomacy to the fire no side.

M-yes, but I'm not sure. I would venture to suggest that a series of regular fires in crowded places in Russian cities over the past 6 months. or more, the SBU’s handiwork under the guidance of the tsrul
Do I have the right to think so? There is no evidence. But the heavenly hundred on the Maidan allows us to think that way. Just do not blame me for inciting ethnic hatred. The terrorists do not have a nationality, they are all sizzling bastards and scum.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Balu

I would venture to suggest that a series of regular fires in crowded places in Russian cities last 6 months. or more, SBU handiwork

One can suppose anything, but so far there are no conclusions, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs has absolutely nothing to do there.

[himRa]

Quote: Tersky

Not ,,,, not right famous proverb

Estonians virus?

[Tersky]

Quote: himRa

Estonians virus?

Verbal diarrhea?

[himRa]

Quote: Tersky

Verbal diarrhea?

Again Jewish habit of answering a question with a question I recommend reading my posts
And by the way, the proverb cast doubt on you

[Tersky]

Quote: himRa

Again Jewish habit of answering a question with a question

Yeah , I’m an officer’s daughter, I’m writing from Israel, and it’s not so simple here,
. Only now, I don’t remember something, no matter how I would answer someone a question somewhere. Do not remind?

Quote: himRa

I recommend reading my posts

And if I find something that contradicts the rules of VO?

Quote: himRa

And by the way, the proverb cast doubt on you

So what? Is this a reason for trolling?

[himRa]

Quote: Tersky

And if I find something that contradicts the rules of VO?

Threaten? You were indicated on my position and she is in my posts
then you can fantasize the phrase yourself ...

Quote: Tersky

what? Is this a reason for trolling?

He himself understood what he said!? Where is trolling here? As I understand it was a joke on your part off topic ..
You run into rudeness in spite of your high rank ....

[Tersky]

Quote: himRa

Are you threatening?

God forbid, you yourself asked to go through your comments.

Quote: himRa

I realized what I said!? G

We are long on you?

Quote: himRa

You run into rudeness in spite of your high rank ....

The title in this case has nothing to do with it, but you have already allowed yourself rudeness.

[himRa]

Quote: Tersky

You’ve already rude yourself.

I must say that you allowed yourself to be rude ... in response to a joke
I think it is necessary to stop ,,, merika ,, in letters and apologize to each other

[Tersky]

Quote: himRa

I must say that you allowed yourself to be rude ... in response to a joke

If this is a joke, then label it with the appropriate emoticon, and everyone will understand that this is a joke, even to such "rude" as I

Quote: himRa

I think we need to stop,

I think that it is necessary.

[svp67]

Quote: Tersky

I’m an officer’s daughter, I’m writing from Israel, and it’s not so simple here,

That's when all the secret becomes apparent ....

[Tersky]

Quote: svp67

That's when all the secret becomes apparent ....

Here is the identity ..., just like Vysotsky’s in a famous song about those who drank water from a tap.

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: Tersky

Thunder struck on the 25th, the baptism began on the 29th.

Not before that, everyone switched to Kemerovo ....

[Tersky]

Quote: Anti-Corr.

Not before that, everyone switched to Kemerovo ....

And the Foreign Ministry too? What did he do there?

[Anti-Corr.]

Colleague, can you recall at least one case of a government promptly responding to international challenges or internal tragedies, with the exception of the dispersal of boys on the streets of Moscow?

Quote: Tersky

And the Foreign Ministry too?

We watched how the international community would react ...

[Alexdark]

Everyone has their own clear and excellent features. I see our state cannot work multithreadedly, let’s say so. Mattresses, won, and wages 17 (figuratively) wars, several countries are shaking the Maidan, some provocations, operations, analyzes and plans, etc., etc. Countless processes, all in real time on all fronts. Plus, everywhere plans for different outcomes have already been thought out, and also planned for the future.
Here, a wonderful mechanism. A machine

[Alexdark]

Supplement even by their own comparison. Real tentacles, sea monster.

[svp67]

Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova says Russia is demanding that Kiev immediately release the crew of the fishing vessel and return the vessel to its rightful owner

In general, such words should be supported by a "diplomatic note"

[Archivist Vasya]

Is it possible that in our Foreign Ministry they hired an Estonian as secretary? ((

[svp67]

Quote: Archivist Vasya

Is it possible that in our Foreign Ministry they hired an Estonian as secretary? ((

No, there are too many secretaries and bureaucracy ...

[passing]

We call foreign policy “reactive,” because we only react. But, 4 days just for the reaction? This is overkill. In my opinion this is confusion.

[prapor75m]

we have some kind of toothless power, everyone is waiting for something, pulling it, it can give the “steering wheel” to Shoigu with Gerasimov

[KVU-NSVD]

Where is the operation of unidentified people in the port of Berdyansk? Or are they even embarrassed with junta junta shy of doing so? Well then, we’ll get: the captain will sit for a long time, they will confiscate the trough, and the team will be deported (and that’s good, if so ...) Where is the closure of the entire adjacent water area for sailing (primarily for large vessels in Ukrainian ports)? Why are you shy? Worse than it is, if it does, then not by much ...

[ul_vitalii]

Already the crews, in exchange for their Bendera, are seizing. The vessel will not be returned; over time, it is necessary to heat it with a new crew.

[taiga2018]

maybe it's really time for Lavrov to rest, the reaction is not the same ...

[Baloo]

Quote: taiga2018

maybe it's really time for Lavrov to rest, the reaction is not the same ...

I do not believe that the sailors of the North did not signal where they should be. Why didn’t they send a pinwheel? I do not understand. Just hovering over the banderlogs would have fallen off.

[VALERIK_097]

What prevented the captain of the “Nord” and, after receiving the command: “Stop the move, go to drift” send a radiogram, give anchors, drop the trawl boards. There are many ways to delay time.
If you were really in neutral waters, there would be a spinner.
As a rule, border guards (of any countries) do not leave their territory.
In earlier comments, I already mentioned the "Electron" by Mr. V. Yarantsev and the BPC Severomorsk

[Graz]

Quote: Kars

There is only one option. The same as with the border guards. He catches a Ukrainian ship .. a poacher .. and changes.

not a poacher, but the ship of one of their oligarchs must be arrested, an expensive ship with expensive cargo

[Ascetic]

It is necessary to close the Kerch Strait to Ukrainian courts, or to sink a Ukrainian boat for violating the state border and acts of piracy, and to train the crew on the territory of the Russian Federation.
First, of course, to warn, and if it doesn’t reach, it’s significant to destroy 1-2 Ukrainian boats getting into Russian waters or trying to attack a Russian ship or vessel.
And this is all blah blah, it's time to put everyone in their place, Russia owes nothing to anyone

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Ascetic

It is necessary to close the Kerch Strait to Ukrainian courts

Of course, this is the first thing we want to kick harder. We have enough forces for this. But such actions will have some complications. Namely, some time ago, the American admiral voiced NATO’s interest in strengthening its presence in the Black Sea and extending it to the sea. Azov. Strength against the Ukrainian Navy will be an excellent catalyst and a backdrop for satisfying such ambitions. We can get their naval base in Odessa and the air base near Kiev, and the devil knows what is near Kharkov. It seems that they have only been doing this lately ...
And our people still need to be rescued (+ take measures so that there are no such troubles in the future). And this will have to be done as in the past times --- diplomatically (of course, not without the involvement of our special services), an eye for an eye. ? Changed, I’m sure that work is underway to identify such goals for exchange.

[Archivist Vasya]

In general, I agree. But all the same, it turns out that we are exchanging simple hard workers / sailors for real spies / saboteurs / terror terror ... not at all an equivalent exchange. Somehow it would be necessary to compensate.

[Karabin]

Force actions against the Ukrainian Navy will be an excellent catalyst and a backdrop for satisfying such ambitions. We can get their naval base in Odessa and the air base near Kiev and the devil knows what is near Kharkov.

And by expressing our concerns, we will stop them !? In my opinion, the weak are not only beaten, but also humiliated.

(+ take measures so that there will be no such troubles).

So it can become

excellent catalyst and background to meet

[Reserve buildbat]

Maybe it's time to declare a part of the Black Sea dangerous for navigation due to piracy and drown any dill as a pirate?

Joke. But wicked.

[ishkovam]

What are the tolerants of the Midwest! At our expense only! What are these people among Nazi ukro ??? Today our fishermen were shown on TV - sorry for the guys ... obviously they are not happy ....

[Smoked]

The campaign will go down in the history of our Foreign Ministry.

[tchoni]

And what prevents to drive to Berdyansk the BDK with a battalion of marines, accompanied by a pair of RTOs?

[Antares]

Quote: tchoni

And what prevents to drive to Berdyansk the BDK with a battalion of marines, accompanied by a pair of RTOs?

maybe a sea of ​​blood, an act of open aggression, an acute phase of conflict and from floundering bay, this is not done on emotions?

[would]

The act of open aggression does not interfere, but rather is the reason for this. If you do not know, then open aggression is expressed in the pirate seizure of the ship and the taking of the crew hostage. "Hostage taking" because the Ukrainian court officially recognized that the crew did not and did not delay.

[APASUS]

The Foreign Ministry understands this, they solve global problems. But this is where our sailors went, where all the border troops looked, on the Super Raptors. Or, again, another fake for show, we have them, but what a secret horror.

[ODERVIT]

Clearly, it is necessary to respond. But I’ll speak in defense of the Foreign Ministry. There are problems with the whole world, and here also the ex-brothers were drawn. The main thing is that they reacted. And no brothers crawl more on their knees, like their ancestors.

[Rakti-kali]

What prevented the Foreign Ministry from reacting to the actual hostage taking on the day of the capture

For example, checking the vessel’s documents, documents permitting fishing, establishing the actual location of the vessel at the time of detention, and other circumstances of the incident. Or should the Russian Foreign Ministry become like the British leadership and start hysterically screaming before it understands what happened?
But if the Ukrainian border guards still crawl into Russian territodes or cling to a Russian vessel in free waters - to drown and raise the signal "I am following my course."

[Karabin]

Quote: Rakti-Kali

But if the Ukrainian border guards still crawl into Russian territodes or cling to a Russian ship

What then? Again in a circle

checking the vessel’s documents, documents permitting fishing, establishing the actual location of the vessel at the time of detention, and other circumstances of the incident.

[Rakti-kali]

Quote: Karabin

What then? Again in a circle

As I understand it, the Chukchi is not a reader?

[Ural resident]

... Foreign Ministry demands from Kiev ...
Interestingly, and if they refuse, then what? ...
Somehow all this has already gone far ...
I hope there is a clear plan of action, such that next time we’re afraid of approaching our ships

[1536]

Ostrich policy. We will soon find out many interesting things when the characters of the latest scandals begin to speak. Therefore, apparently, the Foreign Ministry is silent.

[jetfors_84]

Well, the reaction! Four days to squeeze out a demand for release? Full pi..ts

[Baloo]

Quote: jetfors_84

Well, the reaction! Four days to squeeze out a demand for release? Full pi..ts

I thought, how would the Americans respond? Protests, notes? Or would they simply bomb the port and administration of Berdyansk together with the SBU building?

[Looking for]

Why bomb right away. A naval blockade would have been enough.

[Archivist Vasya]

Well, this is too much) they would send a submarine with a group of specialists (cats, seals, who are they in the elite?) They would take to a quiet / loud building where their sailors are kept and home (taking the ship along the way and be able to sink the patrol boats of the APU). And before that they would set up an ultimatum and not concern.

[Baloo]

Quote: Archivist Vasya

would send a submarine with a group of specialists (

The depths of the Sea of ​​Azov are not suitable, if only underwater Buryat paratroopers.

[Machete]

Cruiser to the port to drive and steer the ship.
Do you think someone will interfere with him?

[Looking for]

Russians !!! You are not offended by the Russian Federation. ???

[Karabin]

Quote: Seeker

Russians !!! You are not offended by the Russian Federation.

The Russians are already used to it. But we have the Most Influential Resident, the Best Minister of Foreign Affairs Lavrov and the Cunning Plan.

[vasya.pupkin]

Quote: Seeker

Russians !!! You are not offended by the Russian Federation. ???

Sasha, your last name, by chance, is not GAPON?

[Roma 1977]

Does anyone else believe that in Syria, after a strike on Russian troops, NATO attack planes / ships will return fire?

[Vard]

Ukraine is like a jackal ... if he senses that they won’t give change ... he bites ... how many times have you washed your face ... we’ll wash ourselves this time too ...

[seacap]

It seems to me that this is not the Foreign Ministry that should react after 4 days, but the MO after 4 minutes, it seems that international terrorism and the protection of citizens and property of the Russian Federation are in its competence, it’s time to wean once and for all the impudent and uneducated hamlo to even think that it is possible with impunity and cynically spit on the Russian Federation.

[Radical]

Only 4 days later, the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs officially reacted to the arrest by Ukrainian border guards of the Russian fishing vessel Nord with 10 crew members on board

I already wrote a few days ago when the “Skripals scandal” began to flare up, that our Foreign Ministry had “late ignition,” and this is just another confirmation! And the Office should be ashamed in general that its coast guard does not catch mice!

[nikolaev]

in this case we can talk only about catching gobies

[nikolaev]

and if we talk about catching violins on the treble clef, then tsnnnn - a complete top-secret secret - everyone is silent ....

[mark_rod]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Quote: Ascetic

It is necessary to close the Kerch Strait to Ukrainian courts

Of course, this is the first thing we want to kick harder. We have enough forces for this. But such actions will have some complications. Namely, some time ago, the American admiral voiced NATO’s interest in strengthening its presence in the Black Sea and extending it to the sea. Azov. Strength against the Ukrainian Navy will be an excellent catalyst and a backdrop for satisfying such ambitions. We can get their naval base in Odessa and the air base near Kiev, and the devil knows what is near Kharkov. It seems that they have only been doing this lately ...
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To Odessa from the Crimea 200 km. Let them build a base for health and put more ships there. With one salvo of the BAL, we’ll plant them at the bottom of the hour “H”.

[Karabin]

Quote: mark_rod

With one salvo of the BAL, we’ll plant them at the bottom of the hour “H”.

Why BAL. Expensive Throw hats, hats!

[Antares]

Quote: mark_rod

With one salvo of the BAL, we’ll plant them at the bottom of the hour “H”.

it is very strange that it is believed that only Odessa harbor can be covered in one gulp ... Does it happen about the vulnerability of any part of Crimea from the land side and the same sea? Or can rockets only fly in one direction?
The vulnerability is mutual. It is still unknown who is there before whom.

[nikolaev]

yes on ... send an assault!

[Drlivsi]

"There is yet another provocative trick of the Ukrainian authorities against Russian citizens. With regard to the crew of the vessel, Ukrainian border guards acted just like Somali pirates. The crew of the vessel had all the necessary documents for fishing in the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov and worked in strict accordance with applicable fishing rules ... "
And what were our border guards or the Navy doing at that time if it was in the international or territorial waters of Russia?

[nikolaev]

in addition to documents it was necessary to have a "Caliber"

[Radical]

Quote: Anti-Corr.

Quote: 210ox

Arrest them all. And do not care about diplomacy!

Virtually?

[Nicholas Bnv]

Shame they demand and complain to their people that there is no way to block the exit from the Sea of ​​Azov to the Ukrainian fleet, and then to talk, and then complaints and requests for an extremely toothless power in the Kremlin ...

[nikolaev]

one must act tough, otherwise they will not be respected.

[nikolaev]

just need a beautiful operation

[Dezinto]

But it’s impossible that the Russian destroyer, some watchman, just silently came up threw the cables, took it in tow and silently went into the sunset, with all our sailors ........ I’m sure that the Ukropitek sailors won’t even twitch .... overclock but do not jerk ....

[Hiller]

Well, why did you think for four days?

[16112014nk]

Our comprador authorities are not interested in what is not related to oil and gas production. Problems of the fishermen? These are their problems ! Get out yourself!

[Berg berg]

Do not release the Crimean sailors, block the Kerch Strait for Ukraine!

[Dam]

Do not escalate, they will be returned soon, just until every day before the start of World War 3 increases the chances of victory. It is difficult to possess the information of a private person, to predict actions at the front level

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Theodore

And then turn off the gas! To everyone.

And you can detain conscripts of military age from Ukraine. My acquaintances in the summer cottages near Moscow will probably get a dozen-three, and most importantly, everything is like picking zapadentsy!
To adore that we supposedly fled from the war, we don’t want to shoot at the brothers from the east.
They do not need to be caught, passports were handed over before the end of construction work.

[New Year day]

Owner: Russian diplomats refused to help fishermen captured in Ukraine
On March 26, the chairman of the May 1st Rybolovets Collective Farm contacted the consulate in Kharkov. They answered him that they could not help with anything other than calling lawyers, ”said Maxim Gorlanov, general director of the Crimean Coast company, to the newspaper VZGLYAD.
https://vz.ru/news/2018/3/27/914565.html

[Vladislav_2]

The ship was supposed to remain in the raid! ... but not at the pier.

[S_Baykala]

Quote: cariperpaint

and what should the Foreign Ministry do? their work consists in that. speak and express.

Unfortunately, many do not understand the essence of diplomacy: the ability to negotiate. And armed methods of influence are the essence of banditry, terrorism and the inability to negotiate. The recognition of their incompetence precisely in matters of diplomacy. In normal terms: armed bandits who dictate their opinions to the rest with the help of a butt at best are not diplomats at all, but ordinary rabble. That is why I consider our diplomats to be the best in the world. Because there are forces and means, but we are trying to agree in a civilized manner. Yes, it is possible and necessary to show force sometimes, but only if all civilized methods, that is, diplomatic methods, have been used. Once again: the use of force we undersigns in our incompetence and is likened to Western "diplomats", which in fact are bystanders.

[Uralean]

Nonsense .. This is your only opinion .. Which is not necessarily correct .. Many have a different opinion .. Your civilized methods of contracts can be shoved in z * d .. Minsk agreements show that for 4 years no agreements between the parties, TUPO are fulfilled .. And therefore, the Russian army should enter into force, and enforce the execution of agreements on the Azov Sea Basin (in this case) .. then everyone will quickly understand everything at once .. It has been proved many times in practice. A slap on the back of the head, more effective than long exhortations ..)

[Abrascha]

Golden words, but I'm afraid the Kremlin will not hear them.

[Abrascha]

That is, if you follow your logic, all these spits in the face and the lack of an adequate reaction to them, is it just the desire of the GDP to give yet another opportunity to the Russian Foreign Ministry and personally to Lavrov to increase his competence and professionalism? Like, the boy once again didn’t succeed and he once again screwed up in full, but we won’t despair, we will give him one more opportunity to show himself in business, in fact, he’s still, and now he’ll betray him.)) ))))))))))))))))))))))) Ah well done))))))))))))))))))))))

[VIa70286887]

Give a day to release and you can hit a preemptive strike at airports and infrastructure.

[mitchhunter]

What prevented the Foreign Ministry from responding to the actual seizure of Russians hostage on the day of the seizure, to put it mildly, is not entirely clear.

And what prevented us from sailing our ship to our fleet, freeing the ship and crew by shooting a couple of invaders?

[Abrascha]

Well, apparently the absence of such a seemingly simple thing as political will, terribly diffusive things in the leadership of the Russian Federation.)))))

[S_Baykala]

Quote: DEZINTO

But it’s impossible that the Russian destroyer, some watchman, just silently came up threw the cables, took it in tow and silently went into the sunset, with all our sailors ........ I’m sure that the Ukropitek sailors won’t even twitch .... overclock but do not jerk ....

In principle, an option, but: everything needs to be coordinated and carried out in jewelry: the absence of coastal defense or serious means of fighting ships (after all, an invasion of the territory of a foreign state), plus no hiccups about anchoring, leaving the port, etc. All squeals and screams at the international level are answered in a standard way: to us ..!

[Abrascha]

"Dreams, dreams, where are your sweets ...." To make this decision, you must have "the political will," and not ........................ .... in the head.))))

[Antares]

At the same time, the detention of "Nord" was carried out in international waters

I draw your attention to the fact that the wording “neutral waters” has already been replaced by “international”. Although what are the international / neutral waters in the inland sea of ​​the Russian Federation and Ukraine (and A. M.’s status is that)?
Agreement between the Russian Federation and Ukraine on cooperation in the use of the Sea of ​​Azov and the Kerch Strait (ratified by both parties in 2004). In this document - assigned to the category of inland waters of Russia and Ukraine.
I also understand the mockery of the Ukrainian media (abound in frankly patriotic terms), but ignorance of the status of the Sea of ​​Azov as serious sources of information? The fall in the quality of information? Ignorance of the Internet?

Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said that Russia is demanding that Kiev immediately release the crew members of the fishing vessel and return the vessel to its rightful owner. Recall that the owner is the Kerch fish farm.

Russian partners are demanding something from Ukrainian. The Ukrainian partners are demanding something from the Russian ... For both, Krym-them! And the wording will be the opposite.

The crew of the vessel had all the necessary documents for fishing in the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov and worked in strict accordance with applicable fishing rules.

Someone enlighten Zakharov ... sometimes it seems to me that she is not busy with that and does not possess complete information.
Show at least the wording of the border service at least ... To understand ... at least .. This is the Ministry of Foreign Affairs .. Ministry of Information Reports.

[AID.S]

Quote: Balu

And everyone entering, as in Poland, must loudly declare at the border: Bandera and Shukhevych, traitors and executioners of Ukraine, and sign a written statement about this.

And upon return, reverse the action.

[tihonmarine]

This is about the "earned money" that go to work in Russia? Yes, let them go without a bid, live, work, maybe dope will be reduced.

[shuravi]

Quote: Balu

Vitaly, you, as always, offer the most radical option, but it does not roll. Think for yourself, why the hell is this Kiev and all of Ukraine with a collapsed economy?

And you, however, are a white pet. You speak beautifully, but the essence is rotten and rushing. All your thoughts come down to the fact that, God forbid, God does not even decide to free their lands. Are you lobbying for US interests? However, what to ask is so obvious.

[Baloo]

Quote: shuravi

And you, however, are a white pet.

Quote: shuravi

You speak beautifully, but the essence is rotten and rushing.

Quote: shuravi

All your thoughts come down to the fact that, God forbid, God doesn’t decide to free her lands

Quote: shuravi

Are you lobbying for US interests?

Quote: shuravi

However, what to ask is so obvious.

[Abrascha]

You say correctly, you feel the correct Soviet upbringing, but I’m afraid that in our time this will be considered extremely politically incorrect and diverging from the “party line”, in short, the people will not understand. Also banned nafig. (((((

[iscander]

What a wretched helplessness! Russia has turned into a teryl country?
In this case, the United States would have introduced a squadron of its ships to the port and, if necessary, would have rolled it into the sand!
What is stopping Russia from sending three or four frigates and taking administrative buildings under the gun? After all, Ukraine has already seized and confiscated ships calling in the Crimea and will continue to do so if it does not get "on hands"!
It has long been clear to everyone that a "good word and colt" sound much more convincing than just a "good word"!
Well, no one ever responds to appeals to reason or to better human qualities (and even more so to "world law"), always a knife at the throat convinces scumbags, not words!

[Abrascha]

I already wrote a little higher, dreaming is not harmful, it is harmful not to dream)))))

[solovald]

Well, ordinary fishermen from Kerch, not fishermen from Gazprom ...

[tihonmarine]

And it’s easier to scoff at such people, no one will protect them, and dill people know this and will continue to scoff at them.

[vel1163]

Yes! There’s a toothless policy. After that, somehow I don’t really believe in the great and powerful army, which only does what it does not give in to provocations. And the Ukrainians are great! Dare and do it. So you look and the Crimea will return and the Donbass.

[Abrascha]

Crimea, after all, is unlikely, there is the best bay at the World Cup, an ideal place for the fleet base, and the dough was swollen too much into the bridge, it will be a pity to give. Well, Donbas, certainly yes, they will definitely return it, it was already clear in May 2014. All that happened then is just an attempt by the people not to annoy much.)))))

[tihonmarine]

As always, we chew snot and come up with different excuses. The situation is normal if the Russian naval forces responded to the illegal action of the Ukrainian border guards with military action.

[Good misanthrope]

Passenger planes are being shot down, and now it has come to piracy. Degradation.

[Alexander Demin]

The ship was detained in the territorial waters of Ukraine and that says it all. The rest is from the evil one...

[Berg berg]

Crimea is no longer Ukraine and the water area belongs to Russia, so for their actions, Ukrainians are now declared pirates and subject to detention or destruction! Until Ukraine confesses to the seizure of the Russian ship and asks Russia for forgiveness!

[Zomanus]

Well, now our ships will probably sail near Crimea under the supervision of patrol officers.
And it took four days to figure out the details, no matter what turned out to be
that require the extradition of poachers or smugglers.

[Valery Saitov]

A crook is a crook. They rob, steal, shoot at civilians in the Donbass, in a word, they are fascists.

[senima56]

All Ukrainian ships are prohibited from passing through. Kerch Strait until our seiner and crew are freed! And at least one damn thing will make a sound!

[Yura Trushkin]

If they demand nothing more, then there will be no end to it!!!

[Abrascha]

))))) It’s not harmful to dream, it’s harmful not to dream)))))))))))))))))

[Pavel Vereshchagin]

According to maritime law, the seizure of a Russian ship is an act of attack. Where was the maritime border service, why weren’t they freed from Svidomo. It's time to stop jittering in front of the horses. Well, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs...there are no words. Just songs performed by M. Zakharova. Everything is bad.

[Abrascha]

And here in Asia we are watching with interest and still can’t understand why everyone in the Russian Federation suddenly became so nervous? Just think, did the ancient Ukrainians squeeze out the ship and its crew? Business. What is this the first time? A couple of years ago, Ukrainian border guards grabbed a couple of Russian soldiers right at the border crossing, and the Russian Federation, no matter what, grabbed it and wiped it off. About 8-10 years ago (I don’t remember exactly, it’s old) the Tajiks, yes, Karl, you heard right, the TAJIKS (it’s funny to even write) they easily took it and, through lawlessness, seized the AN-72 airplane from the Russian Federation, the crew was imprisoned (though later after all, they pardoned them, but the boys’ passports were spoiled with an article about smuggling) and that after all, the Russian Federation, no matter, grabbed it and wiped it off. If you think about it so carefully, then you can remember a couple of dozen smaller cases, and yet the leadership of the Russian Federation has always reacted to these cases in absolutely the same way. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs in the person of Lavrov expressed “deep concern” and that’s the end of the FSO))))). To put it simply, the Russian Federation has always grabbed all this and lost it. So everything is fine, not the first time and apparently not the last. It’s just time to open your eyes and honestly admit that you guys have “suffered in life” (I deliberately don’t use the word “suffered”, I don’t want to offend people).))))

[Fedot57]

Fedot57,
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Захват_танкера_«Туа
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[gendowar]

This is how we catch mice in EVERYTHING!

[Cuba]

our diplomats, as always, chew snot.....and then start whining about international law and similar nonsense, on which the crests hammered a thick and long BOLT, smeared with lard!....all this is sad!!

[Abrascha]

To be completely honest, everyone who wanted to talk about the so-called “international law” gave up on it, well, of course, except for the leadership of the Russian Federation, it seems that someone at the top has this obsession. I have no intention of offending anyone, but in psychiatry this is called low-grade schizophrenia. It's sad though.((((

[Nasty]

As long as we feel sorry for non-friends and let their boorish speeches go down, we will continue to be humiliated. This is the law.

[Serge matveyev]

And to warn that the next time, when trying to hijack, our ship will give a distress signal, upon which aircraft will fly out, and the pirates will be sunk.

[Berg berg]

What's there to do with it, blocking off the entire water area of ​​the Sea of ​​Azov for Ukraine and the right of passage through the Kerch Strait. And demand the return of the Russian ship and crew, and until then consider all Ukrainian ships to be pirates and carry out against them the same actions that are carried out against pirates.

[realist]

Of course, we need to change our attitude towards such stories, even if Taiwan is far away and it’s difficult to pin it down, but can’t this neighbor give a day to free the crew and then use force, land troops and bring the longboat into their waters and, at the same time, pin down the adjacent side, not let them fish, prohibit passage in our waters, for no reason, let them sue us.....

[Santor]

What prevented the Foreign Ministry from responding to the actual seizure of Russians hostage on the day of the seizure, to put it mildly, is not entirely clear. - it was necessary to sort out what and how... Their sources claim that the ship violated the economic zone of Ukraine and they acted legally... That is, they fished in the wrong place where they were supposed to do it... Faced with the actions of our fishermen in the North and beyond The East wouldn't be surprised. there, even our border guards have to shoot at them, and the Japanese fired and the Chinese... They act brazenly. And so as not to get into a puddle themselves, they calmly found out all the details.

[would]

After the news about the pirate hijacking of the Nord ship and the illegal (according to the laws of Ukraine!) detention of the crew members, I remembered Israel. Yes, yes, that's it. Or rather, Operation Entebbe, later “Yonatan”. If anyone doesn't know

Palestinian militants hijacked a plane carrying Israeli citizens and, with the direct permission of the Ugandan authorities, landed it on Ugandan territory. What did Israel do? Expressed concern? Concerns? No! He sent special forces there who multiplied by zero 45 Ugandan military, all the Palestinians and the airport's equipment to the heap. And after this operation, no one can say that Israel does not value its citizens.

[makeyev]

Quote: SRC P-15

Where were our guard ships? Why not come to the rescue? Aviation finally! - Would have given a warning salvo.

It would be necessary for a Russian military plane or helicopter to immediately fire a warning salvo at the captain's bridge and wheelhouse of the Bandera fascists' pirate war boat.

[Alexander Mokhov]

This is how our Foreign Ministry always reacts to events like a giraffe. It’s already a shame for the country, for its toothless foreign policy!