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Baku threatens with “inevitable tragedy of Armenian people”

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The political situation is heating up around the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic. Representatives of the military departments of Armenia and Azerbaijan exchanged very sharp statements.


Baku threatens with “inevitable tragedy of Armenian people”


Deputy Defense Minister of Azerbaijan, Lieutenant-General Kerim Veliyev said that "the military operation to be launched by the Azerbaijani army will lead to the complete defeat of the Armenian armed forces and will result in the inevitable tragedy of the Armenian people."

So he commented on the recent speech of the Chief of the General Staff of the Armenian Armed Forces, Colonel-General Movses Akopyan on the air of the Armenian Public Television.

In an interview with the television company, the Chief of the General Staff of the Republic touched upon the 7-year modernization program of the country's armed forces, the aim of which is to ensure the long-term guaranteed security of Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh from external aggression.

“All measures planned by this program should deter the adversary and, to some extent, prevent the resumption of hostilities. And if they are renewed, they cause such losses to the enemy so that he would be forced to abandon the idea, ”said Movses Hakobyan, noting that deterrence does not imply passive defense, but provides for the application of counterstrikes.

Such an interview topic and such a question can hardly be considered a manifestation of aggressive intentions, especially in the context of the current situation.

Recall, the leadership of Azerbaijan constantly talks about the forceful solution of the “Karabakh issue”. Moreover, on February 8, speaking at the congress of the Yeni Azerbaijan party, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev stated: “Yerevan, Zangezur historical land of Azerbaijanis, and they must return to these historical lands. This is our political and strategic goal, and we should gradually approach it. ”



That is, the head of Azerbaijan has publicly declared the destruction of the neighboring state and the seizure of its territory as the strategic goal of his country.

After such speeches, the concern of the Armenian society is quite understandable, especially since Baku is conducting intensive military preparations. As the questions asked to General Hakobyan by the television staff.

And the response of the commander, aimed at reassuring fellow citizens, sounded quite logical.

“Deterrence or defense does not mean that we will sit in the trenches and wait for the enemy to overtake us. It has never been and never will be. We will take all necessary steps to prevent a war. However, if the assessments are such that the enemy in any case starts hostilities, then we will strike so that he does not have time to go to an organized offensive, ”the general noted.

However, in Baku they saw in this speech a manifestation of verbal aggression. And a representative of the Azerbaijani defense ministry broke out in an angry “rebuke” in which he called the “fiction” 7-year program of the Armenian Defense Ministry to modernize the republic’s armed forces and the statements of its leadership were “ridiculous”.

As confirmation of this, Veliyev considers the 2-5 April 2016 clashes, which, in his opinion, showed that "this conflict can be resolved and nothing will break the determination of the Azerbaijani people to liberate their territories."

And the NKR, according to the general, exists solely because of Azerbaijan’s adherence to the norms and principles of international law.

“But if the issue is not resolved peacefully, then Azerbaijan will definitely take advantage of the right to ensure its territorial integrity by any means and means,” Kerim Veliyev warned.

Of course, it can be assumed that this is a common verbal swoop on the sides, which has occurred more than once throughout the existence of independent Armenia and Azerbaijan, and, accordingly, the Karabakh conflict.

However, the aforementioned statement by Ilham Aliyev about the seizure of Yerevan and Zangezur is unprecedented. And the consistent continuation and development of this topic by high-ranking Azerbaijani officials (in conjunction with the growth of tension in the conflict zone) suggests that this is not an accidental rhetorical combination of the Azerbaijani head, but a kind of “trend.”

What is happening in the region is not limited to the specifics of only Armenian-Azerbaijani relations. All this is directly related to the position and interests of Turkey, which is the main patron of Azerbaijan, and Russia, an ally of Armenia.

Recall that the “four-day war” in April 2016 of the year was stopped primarily by the efforts of Moscow, to whose interests the escalation of the situation in Transcaucasia categorically does not correspond. By virtue of this, Russia put all its strength into stopping the flare-up conflict, putting pressure on Baku, and calling on Yerevan to show restraint.

Note that Azerbaijan is also an important economic partner, and Russia maintains intensive trade relations with it, including in order to be able to influence political trends in this country.

However, the possibilities of Moscow in this sense with the influence of Ankara on Baku and can’t be compared.

Anyway, it is extremely difficult to assume that the provocative statements of Aliyev and other representatives of the Azerbaijani leadership were made without the consent and approval of Ankara (and possibly at her request).

Why does Erdogan need it?

The answer is simple. At the moment, the situation in Syria has become extremely tense, the clashes between the CAA and the allies of Damascus with the pro-Turkish Islamist gangs have already taken place. The Syrian troops even used the MLRS BM-21 to stop the convoy of vehicles in Idlib with the Turkish military. Erdogan announced an attack on the Tell-Rifat, which is under the control of the Syrians. Skirmishes of pro-Turkish militants with government forces are already taking place in the southern part of the canton of Afrin. Ankara does not hide its claims, at least in Northern Syria.

The main obstacle for Turkey’s realization of its aggressive plans in Syria is Russia.

Based on this, Ankara is trying to put pressure on our “sore point” - the Karabakh conflict, in order to make it more accommodating. The situation in the Caucasus, is really very difficult. If we consider that Georgia is also a Turkish partner, then in the event of an aggravation of the situation, Armenia may find itself in an actual blockade, with a single “window” to Iran.

Of course, in the case of a large-scale Armenian-Azerbaijani war, Russia, fulfilling its allied duty, can carry out an operation to force the aggressor to peace, using the water area of ​​the Caspian Sea, and also launching an offensive from the north, from the territory of Dagestan. But such a scenario would be extremely undesirable for our country, and is associated with many negative consequences.

That is why the provocative speeches of Baku are a form of pressure on our country, calculated on the fact that Moscow will have to go with Turkey to bargain for Syria in order to avoid an escalation in Transcaucasia.

To a certain extent, the possibility of such a situation was the result of the policy of “appeasement” that our country tried to implement in the region. Thus, the official representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia, Maria Zakharova, at a regular briefing commenting on Aliyev’s statement about the intention to “return” Yerevan and Zangezur, said: “In Moscow, of course, we saw the President’s speech at the congress of the ruling party. We know very well that relations between Azerbaijan and neighboring Armenia are extremely tense, and the statements mentioned above clearly do not contribute to the reduction of tension. ”

If we take into account that Russia is a co-chair of the OSCE Minsk Group on Karabakh, as well as Armenia’s ally in the CSTO, then such a “streamlined” reaction to Aliyev’s flagrant statement looks, to put it mildly, strange.

The desire not to “aggravate” forms in Baku a sense of permissiveness, as well as an inadequate perception of its own capabilities. What, to a certain extent, Ankara uses.

Meanwhile, although Ilham Aliyev often puts in, he is a pragmatic person, and he obviously will not play the role of a “shahid” even in the interests of Turkey. Therefore, Moscow should probably more firmly designate a framework for it. In order to avoid the need to make later unpleasant and difficult decisions for us.

You can start right now. For example, to give a clear assessment to the statements of the Azerbaijani general, who threaten the “inevitable tragedy” of the Armenian people, who are an ally of Russia.
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  1. sleeve
    sleeve 28 March 2018 06: 32
    +14
    A normal idea about "peace enforcement." Around Russia there should be a belt of those who cannot be rattled with weapons, otherwise they will be "forced". In my opinion it is quite sensible. Given the current international situation, we have nothing to lose at all, and it’s nice for our neighbors to instill a love of peace and negotiations. At the level of state ideology: Big Mom (Russia) is very tired at work and does not like when children are noisy and outrageous. And guns and tanks from Russia to you to fight against external aggressors, and not with a neighboring garden. Given the share of surrounding countries in the trade balance of the Russian Federation, you can simply multiply it by zero (trade turnover) by the time of the “fit of militarism”. The same nishtyak. In short throw need to be shy. There comrades Ukrainians took advantage of the constraint, now we go knocked down a bag. What the hell is happiness somewhere else? Let them work, study, fraternize, get married. But not one to fight among themselves. Such an ideology is proposed.
    1. KVU-NSVD
      KVU-NSVD 28 March 2018 07: 25
      +9
      I think that maneuvers of the Caspian flotilla with missile firing and simultaneous confirmation by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of their commitment to allied commitments will be enough to cool hot Baku guys ... At the same time, we can discuss in the press our discussion of our assistance in the event of a conflict under the Syrian scenario - so that all interested people understand that drag us into a full-blown conflict will not work in any case ..
      1. Babur_Imperat
        Babur_Imperat 28 March 2018 08: 16
        +6
        And if in the Caspian Sea, Baku and Astana invite NATO and the United States
        1. KVU-NSVD
          KVU-NSVD 28 March 2018 08: 22
          +16
          It’s possible to invite, but it’s problematic to drag the burkas with ticonderogens laughing
    2. novel66
      novel66 28 March 2018 07: 55
      +5
      and it would be better to start with Ukraine!
    3. Safevi
      Safevi 28 March 2018 10: 07
      +11
      The author mixed everything in a heap, and even for some reason Erdogan got stuck - like, do not be Erdogan, Azerbaijan will agree to reject 20% of its territory. And what kind of pathos the author quoted- "said Movses Hakobyan, noting that deterrence does not imply passive defense, but involves counterattacks. Such an interview topic and such a posing of the question can hardly be considered a manifestation of aggressive intentions" - such as the invaders on our land are not Armenians, they have nothing to do with, Martians + Turks + Americans are to blame, Wow! Very illiterate article! The author is extremely tendentious; it’s a mile away!
      1. mariusdeayeraleone
        mariusdeayeraleone 28 March 2018 10: 58
        +3
        From the diplomatic front, the article is illiterate.
        But from a military point of view, a perfectly valid idea.
      2. AID.S
        AID.S 28 March 2018 15: 04
        +8
        Quote: sefevi
        The author mixed everything in a heap, and even for some reason Erdogan got stuck - like, do not be Erdogan, Azerbaijan will agree to reject 20% of its territory.

        Did Aliyev talk about “primordial Yerevan” or not?
        1. Cheldon
          Cheldon 28 March 2018 16: 59
          +2
          Primordial Irevan, as we say Istanbul, and in Turkic Istanbul. Revan is an Azerbaijani Khan.
          1. Butchcassidy
            Butchcassidy 28 March 2018 18: 01
            +11
            Quote: Cheldon
            Primordial Irevan, as we say Istanbul, and in Turkic Istanbul. Revan is an Azerbaijani Khan.

            Yerevan was founded in 782 BC2800 years ago, Karl! laughing ) called Erebuni, which is a fortress and now is a historical and archaeological museum on the hill of Karmir Blur.

            What does any khan have to do with this?
            1. mariusdeayeraleone
              mariusdeayeraleone 28 March 2018 21: 30
              +3
              Fake information.
              1. Butchcassidy
                Butchcassidy 29 March 2018 12: 04
                +1
                Quote: mariusdeayeraleone
                Fake information.

                Directly powerful argument;)
            2. Ramzay121
              Ramzay121 30 March 2018 10: 08
              0
              If you hadn’t had a relationship, you wouldn’t have called, contradict yourself
              1. Butchcassidy
                Butchcassidy 30 March 2018 11: 04
                +1
                Ahahahaha))) Af.f.tar, burn out!))) You yourself have come up with an argument, but now you want me to refute it? Are you seriously? Your head of the diaspora in Moscow said that the Kremlin was named after its builder - "Azerbaijani Ali Karimli" - this also needs to be refuted?))) Tbilisi, Yerevan and Derbent - these are "ancient Azerbaijani cities"Is this nonsense to refute too? You there you can safely go crazy and smoke any ganjubas, only normal people do not get involved in their affairs.

                Do not fantasize, but rather come to Yerevan this fall, there in October there will be a celebration of the 2800th anniversary of the city - the Erebuni-Yerevan holiday, there must be something grandiose.
                1. mariusdeayeraleone
                  mariusdeayeraleone 30 March 2018 12: 21
                  0
                  Tbilisi, Yerevan and Derbent are "ancient Azerbaijani cities"




                  Hello!
          2. AID.S
            AID.S 28 March 2018 18: 38
            +2
            Quote: Cheldon
            Primordial Irevan, as we say Istanbul, and in Turkic Istanbul. Revan is an Azerbaijani Khan.

            Provide links, I will be interested to learn new about the history of Yerevan. Still, if in the historical past Yerevan was for some time owned by medieval Muslim khanates and territorial claims are justified by this, does this mean acceptance of hypothetical imperial claims of Russia for all of Azerbaijan? Yes, and Armenia own?
            1. Cheldon
              Cheldon 28 March 2018 20: 18
              +1
              Quote: AID.S
              Quote: Cheldon
              Primordial Irevan, as we say Istanbul, and in Turkic Istanbul. Revan is an Azerbaijani Khan.

              Provide links, I will be interested to learn new about the history of Yerevan. Still, if in the historical past Yerevan was for some time owned by medieval Muslim khanates and territorial claims are justified by this, does this mean acceptance of hypothetical imperial claims of Russia for all of Azerbaijan? Yes, and Armenia own?

              Hammer in Yandex the history of the Yerevan Khanate, if not difficult. And what about the imperial claims, have they really come out in the "Bulletin of the Kremlin" already? I didn’t know. Or did you mean the opinions of individuals?
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          3. garnik
            garnik 28 March 2018 22: 24
            +2
            Primordial Irevan, as we say Istanbul, and in Turkic Istanbul. Revan is an Azerbaijani Khan.



            The earliest mention of the city in Armenian - in the “Book of Letters” - dates back to the year 607, when a certain Daniil from Yerevan was mentioned among the Armenian churchmen who remained faithful to the decisions of the Chalcedon Cathedral. Yerevan was one of the settlements in the zone of Persian-Byzantine wars in Armenia in the 27th century [650], it is mentioned in connection with the Arab conquest: in August XNUMX it was besieged by Arabs, but to no avail.
            And this is just a derivative of the more ancient names of the city of Yerevan.
            Where did your bros roam at this time? Rather, it is the nickname of the Khan. Why don't you write about the Moscow Kremlin, which was built by the Azerbaijani architect Alice Sübhan oglu Keremli.http: //ttolk.ru/? P = 26631
        2. Yeraz
          Yeraz 28 March 2018 19: 27
          +2
          Quote: AID.S
          Did Aliyev talk about “primordial Yerevan” or not?

          He spoke. Only the author in Armenian conveyed the meaning of what was said.
          Yerevan, Zangezur is the historical land of Azerbaijanis, and they should back to these historical lands.
          Where is it said that it is necessary to include these lands in Azerbaijan back ?? For example, Crimea is the historical land of the Crimean Tatars and they must return there. Well, they returned perfectly well from deportation there. It's the same thing. It is said about the return of Azerbaijanis back to these lands.
          1. Cheldon
            Cheldon 28 March 2018 20: 22
            +3
            Quote: Yeraz
            Crimea historical land of Crimean Tatars

            what year is it historical? Dozens of peoples lived before the Tatars.
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 28 March 2018 21: 21
              +2
              Quote: Cheldon
              what year is it historical? Dozens of peoples lived before the Tatars.

              Well, obviously earlier than the Russians. The point was not that. The historical concept is conditional and many lived where many, many.
          2. AID.S
            AID.S 28 March 2018 20: 23
            +1
            Quote: Yeraz
            For example, Crimea is the historical land of the Crimean Tatars, and they should return there. Well, they returned very well from deportation there.

            So Aliyev meant establishing relations with Armenia? If so, then bravo. Or "return" on the T90 armor? (I don’t want to think so.) Is it only real - Azerbaijanis in Yerevan and Armenians in Baku in the near future?
            1. Cheldon
              Cheldon 28 March 2018 20: 47
              +2
              They used to live, and not bad. I sometimes meet Baku Armenians in Russia, everyone speaks very warmly about life in Baku. One left only in 1994. Maybe I misunderstood him, although I asked him again.
              Quote: AID.S
              . Is it only real- Azerbaijanis in Yerevan and Armenians in Baku in the near future?
              You are right, the gin is out of the bottle, decades are needed to drive it back. In mother Russia, they live and communicate, and they conduct mutual business. God grant that will be so in the Caucasus. Reduce your pride and everything will work out.
            2. Yeraz
              Yeraz 28 March 2018 21: 24
              +2
              Quote: AID.S
              So Aliyev meant establishing relations with Armenia? If so, then bravo. Or "return" on the T90 armor? (I do not want to think so).

              by what methods he wants a different question. He did not voice it. But knowing his nature, rather peaceful.
              Quote: AID.S
              But is it real - Azerbaijanis in Yerevan and Armenians in Baku in the near future?

              Well, the Armenians are already in Baku, mainly the wives of Azerbaijanis and elderly people. But they will soon disappear. It is easy to imagine that if the Armenians agree to a peace treaty, the Turkic peoples have a very short memory in this plan. But if there is a force return, then of course you cannot talk about peace.
      3. Butchcassidy
        Butchcassidy 28 March 2018 16: 29
        +6
        The author mixed everything in a heap, and even for some reason Erdogan got stuck - like, do not be Erdogan, Azerbaijan will agree to reject 20% of its territory. And what kind of pathos the author quoted- "said Movses Hakobyan, noting that deterrence does not imply passive defense, but involves counterattacks. Such an interview topic and such a posing of the question can hardly be considered a manifestation of aggressive intentions" - such as the invaders on our land are not Armenians, they have nothing to do with, Martians + Turks + Americans are to blame, Wow! Very illiterate article! The author is extremely tendentious; it’s a mile away!

        Normally everyone wrote. Erdogan was mentioned because of his position in the conflict and you are well aware of this.
        But M. Hakobyan said everything correctly, and this is not a secret. The military doctrine of Armenia provides for the concept of active defense. This military concept provides for containing the enemy’s blow, followed by a counteroffensive and transferring hostilities to the enemy’s territory and inflicting it unacceptable damage.
  2. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 28 March 2018 07: 02
    +17
    All the warriors in our markets, to whom will they leave their tomatoes? recourse
    1. novel66
      novel66 28 March 2018 07: 56
      +5
      small local "Karabakhs" in all markets of the country ... lol
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 28 March 2018 09: 37
        +5
        Especially on August 2, so as not to relax, flu prevention smile
    2. Safevi
      Safevi 28 March 2018 10: 10
      +5
      "to whom will they leave their tomatoes?"
      Tomato sellers offended you? Sorry
      1. Russia
        Russia 28 March 2018 12: 46
        +10
        The point here is that you need to engage in military training closer to home, otherwise it will turn out that you will go to the war from Moscow in the same train with your Armenian comrades, which is good hi
    3. AID.S
      AID.S 28 March 2018 15: 25
      +2
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      All the warriors in our markets, to whom will they leave their tomatoes?

      As far as I can trust my eyes and ears, there are no Azerbaijani sellers, there are Uzbeks, Tajiks and ours, Russians. I saw one similar, but he was the master of the point. So there are none at the shelves. Rather, you will find them at the wholesale level and not only food.
    4. Cheldon
      Cheldon 28 March 2018 17: 09
      +3
      By the way, the tomatoes are all Turkish. I saw the Guba (Azerbaijan) tomatoes, they are without tails. So, if you see Baku tomatoes with a tail, don’t believe this is Turkish. And there are no tomato greenhouses around Baku, somehow. If I’m wrong, let’s correct.
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      All the warriors in our markets, to whom will they leave their tomatoes?
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 28 March 2018 19: 29
        +5
        Quote: Cheldon
        And there are no tomato greenhouses around Baku, somehow. If I’m wrong, let’s correct.

        the number of greenhouses has been greatly increased in Azerbaijan and, of course, most are not around Baku. It's just that the brand is Baku. Even tomatoes grown in Russia are put up like Baku. The commercial move and that’s it.
        1. Cheldon
          Cheldon 28 March 2018 20: 52
          +2
          Quote: Yeraz
          number of greenhouses greatly increased in Azerbaijan

          I am only glad about it. Everyone is full, satisfied. Keep it up. Guba tomatoes are tastier than Turkish ones.
      2. Buka001
        Buka001 28 March 2018 20: 06
        +3
        Dear, Russia has been eating tomatoes, cucumbers and greens from greenhouses around Baku for almost a century now)))
        1. Cheldon
          Cheldon 28 March 2018 20: 29
          +2
          Quote: Buka001
          Dear, Russia has been eating tomatoes, cucumbers and greens from greenhouses around Baku for almost a century now)))

          Did not see. Especially in the quantity that is sold in Russia. Rocking oil in private courtyards seen, touching.
  3. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 28 March 2018 07: 23
    +4
    There is more than Turkish, US interest in creating a belt of instability and chaos around the former Soviet republics around Russia is visible. In fact, they managed to cut Russia off from old Europe through the Baltic countries, Poland and Urkain. Now the prerequisites are being created for cutting off access to the Caucasus, the Middle East and Asia.
    1. Babur_Imperat
      Babur_Imperat 28 March 2018 08: 19
      +2
      What will happen if the countries of Central Asia place a base near the USA
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 28 March 2018 09: 05
        +2
        Russia from these bases is neither cold nor hot.
      2. Winnie76
        Winnie76 28 March 2018 09: 17
        +4
        Quote: Babur_Imperatorlugu
        What will happen if the countries of Central Asia place a base near the USA

        Kirdyk will be to these countries. Nobody will fit in for them, the United States is far away, Russia is right there. So have to be friends laughing
      3. Cheldon
        Cheldon 28 March 2018 17: 11
        0
        Quote: Babur_Imperatorlugu
        What will happen if the countries of Central Asia place a base near the USA

        The United States will fight until the last soldier from the countries of Central Asia.
  4. apro
    apro 28 March 2018 08: 34
    +2
    Here you can only wish victory in battle to both sides. And at the top, the gods themselves will determine who is right. Who is to blame.
    Russia only deal with its problems.
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    2. would
      would 28 March 2018 09: 23
      +4
      But you forget that it is on the territory of Armenia that our military base stands. And it’s not just a “victory for both sides”, but in general the war is not needed.
      1. Cheldon
        Cheldon 28 March 2018 17: 12
        0
        Quote: rait
        But you forget that it is on the territory of Armenia that our military base stands. And it’s not just a “victory for both sides”, but in general the war is not needed.

        Since 2013, the database has been withdrawn.
        1. would
          would 28 March 2018 17: 19
          +4
          ??? The 102nd Russian military base was not withdrawn anywhere and is still deployed in Armenia.
          1. Cheldon
            Cheldon 28 March 2018 17: 50
            0
            I mean about Azerbaijan. Confused a bit.
  5. maxim1987
    maxim1987 28 March 2018 09: 12
    +2
    Quote: Babur_Imperatorlugu
    What will happen if the countries of Central Asia place a base near the USA


    what will happen if we introduce a visa regime with these countries?
  6. maxim1987
    maxim1987 28 March 2018 09: 13
    +1
    Quote: Vadim237
    Well, let’s bite each other there - they don’t give a damn about them at all.


    just do not forget to close the border for refugees
  7. Spike Javelin Touvich
    Spike Javelin Touvich 28 March 2018 09: 20
    +5
    Again stuffing yellow newspaper
    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 28 March 2018 09: 38
      +6
      Quote: Spikes Javelin Touvich
      Again stuffing yellow newspaper

      If you are a representative of the glorious Azerbaijani people, then tell us what the common people think about relations with Armenia ?. T.S. firsthand.
      And further. Whose Karabakh?
      1. Safevi
        Safevi 28 March 2018 10: 13
        +6
        "If you are a representative of the glorious Azerbaijani people, then tell us what the common people think about relations with Armenia ?. TS first-hand.
        And further. Whose Karabakh? "
        If you still do not know, then I will say, Karabakh is the cradle of Azerbaijani culture and belongs to us by any right and is recognized by ALL countries of the world as the territory of Azerbaijan. Among the people there is no other opinion and cannot be! War is inevitable.
        1. BecmepH
          BecmepH 28 March 2018 10: 25
          +7
          Quote: sefevi
          If you still do not know, then I will say, Karabakh is the cradle of Azerbaijani culture and belongs to us by any right and is recognized by ALL countries of the world as the territory of Azerbaijan. Among the people there is no other opinion and cannot be! War is inevitable

          And where then
          Spike Javelin Touvich
          Again stuffing yellow newspaper
          ??
          I understood you. Maidan logic. The dialogue will not work. Aliyev threatens, the norm. Hakobyan says that we will not give up so easily, the yellow press. Or vice versa. I'm completely confused. Or maybe the yellow press is something else?
          I will not argue with you. You are infected ... maidan
        2. garnik
          garnik 28 March 2018 12: 10
          +5
          From what year did Ar.tsakh (Karabakh) become the cradle of Azerbaijani culture. A people called Azerbaijanis and the Republic of Azerbaijan since 1920. Before that, the so-called Azerbaijan was inhabited by the autochthons of Lezghins, Avars, Armenians, Talysh, etc., which at a catastrophic rate become numerically smaller. The state was created for all the peoples living at that time, and the country was privatized by the Kavturks (once consisting of 8 tribes).
          The EU does not recognize the boundaries of the so-called. Azerbaijan.,
          War, of course, will be, but after the end of Turkish expansion in Syria. Only Russia is able to stop the war by breaking the infamous Karsky and Moscow treaties with Turkey.
        3. Butchcassidy
          Butchcassidy 28 March 2018 16: 33
          +2
          Quote: sefevi
          "If you are a representative of the glorious Azerbaijani people, then tell us what the common people think about relations with Armenia ?. TS first-hand.
          And further. Whose Karabakh? "
          If you still do not know, then I will say, Karabakh is the cradle of Azerbaijani culture and belongs to us by any right and is recognized by ALL countries of the world as the territory of Azerbaijan. Among the people there is no other opinion and cannot be! War is inevitable.

          Yes, about the "cradle of Azerbaijani culture" in Karabakh there is a wonderful article https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsification_histor
          and_in_Azerbaijan
      2. Spike Javelin Touvich
        Spike Javelin Touvich 28 March 2018 11: 29
        +5
        what does the common people think about relations with Armenia ?. He doesn’t think anything, he will think after the restoration of the territorial integrity of the country, the return of all refugees to their native lands, including in the territory of the so-called Armenia, in which 250 people lived before 1988. It also pays 250 billions of dollars for destroyed cities and infrastructure.
        1. 72jora72
          72jora72 28 March 2018 12: 44
          +3
          what does the common people think about relations with Armenia ?. He doesn’t think anything, he will think after the restoration of the territorial integrity of the country, the return of all refugees to their native lands, including in the territory of the so-called Armenia, in which 250 people lived before 1988. It also pays 250 billions of dollars for destroyed cities and infrastructure.
          I, dear, I will answer you with the words of the President ---- torment dust swallow wink
          1. Spike Javelin Touvich
            Spike Javelin Touvich 28 March 2018 14: 48
            +2
            Well, if you call millions of refugees and hundreds of destroyed settlements dust. I will leave it on your conscience. Farewell
          2. Cheldon
            Cheldon 28 March 2018 17: 19
            +3
            Quote: 72jora72
            I, dear, I will answer you with the words of the President ---- torment dust swallow

            You would see how refugees in tents in the 40-degree heat in an open field lived, they took their words back. You don’t wish anyone like that.
            1. garnik
              garnik 28 March 2018 20: 26
              +2
              I have a refugee wife from Baku. Most of her relatives .da and mine still live in rented apartments, leaving apartments and private houses in Baku. I saw when they made breadcrumbs from bread and ate them with stew.
              So that this does not happen again, one must go to the world. Unfortunately opponents, calls for peace are identified with weakness.
              1. Cheldon
                Cheldon 28 March 2018 21: 12
                0
                Quote: garnik
                So that this does not happen again, one must go to the world. Unfortunately opponents, calls for peace are identified with weakness.

                Yes, you are right. And how many mixed marriages! In our city, in the hospital, the head of the children's department is an Azerbaijani, an Armenian wife, lived in Baku, left in the early 90's. The daughter is a beautiful, clever, very well-mannered.
                need to go to the world

                What does it mean to be expelled from your home, you know firsthand, but how now to explain to those people after that to go to the world? Years will pass and concessions are needed, without this, nothing. This is my opinion.
        2. Butchcassidy
          Butchcassidy 28 March 2018 16: 41
          +4
          Quote: Spikes Javelin Touvich
          what does the common people think about relations with Armenia ?. He doesn’t think anything, he will think after the restoration of the territorial integrity of the country, the return of all refugees to their native lands, including in the territory of the so-called Armenia, in which 250 people lived before 1988. It also pays 250 billions of dollars for destroyed cities and infrastructure.

          The flow of petrodollars to the budget of Baku allowed ordinary people to live in Az.R. if not like in Qatar, then not bad. But the authorities, headed by I. Aliyev, who, being a good son (without irony), planted a cult of personality of his father G. Aliyev in the country, to spit on the needs of ordinary people. All issues could be resolved, but they were not resolved, preferring to buy property for their children in the Emirates, as was the case with I. Aliyev’s children. And as soon as they arise inside the Az.R. social explosions - as if by magic, tension and escalation along the Karabakh line arise. And there the attention of public opinion switches.
          1. Cheldon
            Cheldon 28 March 2018 17: 28
            +1
            Quote: ButchCassidy
            All issues could be resolved, but they were not resolved, preferring to buy property for their children in the Emirates, as was the case with I. Aliyev’s children.

            Have you been to Baku in Soviet times? And now? Did you feel the difference?
            1. Butchcassidy
              Butchcassidy 28 March 2018 18: 04
              +3
              Quote: Cheldon
              Quote: ButchCassidy
              All issues could be resolved, but they were not resolved, preferring to buy property for their children in the Emirates, as was the case with I. Aliyev’s children.

              Have you been to Baku in Soviet times? And now? Did you feel the difference?

              The city is not limited to a beautiful center. The city still has problems with drinking water and sewage, and real estate in the Emirates does not solve these problems.
              1. Cheldon
                Cheldon 28 March 2018 18: 32
                0
                Quote: ButchCassidy
                The city is not limited to a beautiful center.

                All problems will be solved. "Moscow was not built right away. NOT everything was settled right away."
                1. Butchcassidy
                  Butchcassidy 29 March 2018 12: 07
                  +2
                  Quote: Cheldon
                  All problems will be solved. "Moscow was not built right away. NOT everything was settled right away."

                  C'mon, you? Who solves them there. We would like to - have decided. A quarter century is a sufficient period. And it’s Baku that the Armenians eat up the last shoe, but in beautiful Baku there is a flag square (such a healthy colossus)), a flower festival is held annually, if I’m not mistaken, on the birthday of the current president’s father, where tons and flowers are brought in. Only there is no money for sewage and water.
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    1. mariusdeayeraleone
      mariusdeayeraleone 28 March 2018 16: 23
      +4
      And who stopped?
    2. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy 28 March 2018 16: 42
      +2
      Quote: Trk-azr-fker
      I am amazed at your insolence. RUSSIA STOPED THE WAR IN 2016? ARE YOU SERIOUSLY? A FUNCTION OF AZERBAIJAN BY OFFENSIVE WEAPONS FOR FIVE BILLION DOLLARS, SURELY WENT FROM WASHINGTON AND BRUSSELS, YES?

      Yes, Russia stopped, yes, it sold weapons.

      PS Nick test;)
    3. Whitesnow
      Whitesnow 28 March 2018 16: 49
      +2
      And how much did Armenia receive weapons?
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    1. Whitesnow
      Whitesnow 28 March 2018 16: 52
      +5
      Two questions.
      1. Who pierced the Lachin corridor.
      2. Thanks to whom the Armenian ethnos was preserved in the South Caucasus.
      1. garnik
        garnik 28 March 2018 23: 01
        +1
        Two questions.
        1. Who pierced the Lachin corridor.
        2. Thanks to whom the Armenian ethnos was preserved in the South Caucasus.

        1. I would like to see a link, as I understand it, that Russian troops took Lachin?
        In these years, the commandant of the city of Goris (the city through which you can get to Lachin from Armenia) was my cousin and did not observe any Russian units. So the Russian volunteers fought this fact.
        2. Armenians do not forget the past in relations between Russia and Armenia, but unfortunately it was not always "cloudless". And now there is a suspicious fraternization with the Turks.

        .
        1. mariusdeayeraleone
          mariusdeayeraleone 29 March 2018 07: 01
          +1
          Lachin corridor was cleaned by the Armenians of the future terminators.
          From sent ashot Konyan, a full-time employee of Arneta. I mean that Russia is just a name)))
          1. garnik
            garnik 29 March 2018 08: 27
            +2
            And Shushi was taken by Armenian terminators, Jabrail, Kubatly, Zangilan, Kelbajar,
            Fizuli, Agdam, winked
            The more you belittle the military prowess of the Armenians, the more you trample yours in the mud.
            1. mariusdeayeraleone
              mariusdeayeraleone 29 March 2018 18: 02
              0
              Karl month, month.
        2. Whitesnow
          Whitesnow 31 March 2018 18: 37
          +1
          I’d like to see a lot of links. But not everything is available to us, my friend Horatio. And with your brother, somehow taking a bajak or two on your chest, talk on this topic. But do you seriously believe in the combat effectiveness of the Fedain formations? You recall the difference in the mobility of Armenia and Azerbaijan, in the presence of hydrocarbons? Perhaps you know something about the countable number of Armenian pilots in Erebuni?
          And fraternizing with the Turks you personally and the Armenians in general should not worry at all. As long as Russian troops are in Armenia, the Turks will not go there. It is a pity many Armenians do not understand this.
          1. garnik
            garnik 31 March 2018 22: 52
            0
            Perhaps you are a participant in those events. If so, then honor and
            Praise to you. My brother is Russian according to his passport, in one sitting he can 5 liters. He can destroy a bucket of wine in more than one eye, I am far from him.
            The city was defended by the same "collective farmers."
            When there was a war about hydrocarbons no one remembered, it was subsequently with the help of foreign companies that they increased the production of energy resources.
            What can you say about the participation of 200 Karabakh Armenians in the Chechen war?
            About participation in the events of Karamahi and Chabanmakhi (Dagestan).
            I heard on the Voice of America radio. And about Dagestan, Aliyev himself, the father, protested against the Armenian interference in his own affairs.
            At the expense of fraternization, the Armenians experienced the fraternization of Turkey and Soviet Russia. Ar.tsakh and Nakhichevan are the fruits of this friendship.
            And in Syria, Russia forgives a lot of Turks. So understand what the next step will be.
        3. saigon
          saigon April 1 2018 18: 47
          0
          Well, of course they don’t forget over there Trk spoke out, and thanks to such volunteers.
          Well, I already heard it.
          For a long time we will not forget.
          1. garnik
            garnik April 1 2018 19: 43
            0
            Trk just lost his temper. In general, he is right, but one could hold on to his emotions.
            Armenia for Russia should be like Israel for the USA. But while Armenia, Russia uses it as an irritant for the Turks, which are Anatolian and Transcaucasian. Watching the surrender of Syrian territory to the Turks for a compromise, the Armenians draw their conclusions, especially since they took place in 20 years.
            1. saigon
              saigon April 2 2018 15: 24
              0
              Well, his will is right. his thoughts and words. Only I think with such statements in Ar - khe another time with mamedy yourself and understand. Good luck
    2. Cheldon
      Cheldon 28 March 2018 17: 32
      +2
      Quote: Trk-azr-fker
      How so. Wait for support from you. Russia has completely discredited itself, both as an ally and as a partner. You better ship more weapons to two divisions. And Rogozin, this corrupt creature, say hello from us.

      that is, the term of great Armenia is a fake, without help from outside in any way? So what is it about. Lie down under the strong and do not resist.
      1. Butchcassidy
        Butchcassidy 28 March 2018 18: 10
        +3
        that is, the term of great Armenia is a fake, without help from outside in any way? So what is it about. Lie down under the strong and do not resist.

        ;) It is a pity that the ancient Greeks, Romans and Persians did not know that there was no Great Armenia. And then everyone wrote about it and wrote. As if from the harmfulness to the modern National Academy of Sciences of Azerbaijan in Baku wassat
        1. Cheldon
          Cheldon 28 March 2018 18: 38
          0
          Ancient Egypt, ancient Greece, ancient Rome - look at Italians, Arabs and Greeks, ask, what do they have to do with the ancients? Just what live on these lands? The same thing is about today's Armenians.
        2. Bakht
          Bakht 28 March 2018 21: 06
          +3
          Actually, they did not write about Great Armenia. They wrote about Greater and Lesser Armenia. Incorrect translation and inaccurate terms are a terrible thing. Leads to bloodshed.
          1. Butchcassidy
            Butchcassidy 29 March 2018 12: 17
            +2
            Quote: Bakht
            Actually, they did not write about Great Armenia. They wrote about Greater and Lesser Armenia. Incorrect translation and inaccurate terms are a terrible thing. Leads to bloodshed.

            Well, you do not fantasize. The Armenians at the time of King Tigran II the Great with Rome fought in the XNUMXst century. BC, as well as with this king, Great Armenia included Sophena, Midia Atropatena (the familiar name?))), Syria, Phenicia, Cilicia, part of Palestine and the border reached Egypt.

            By the way, Tigran was the son-in-law of the famous king Pontus of Euxinus - Mithridates VI Eupator. With Rome, he fought in alliance with his father-in-law.

            And to what bloodshed can the knowledge of the history of the Armenians lead? But ignorance of history on your part just leads. But you have no time to study real history - you study Heydral’s studies or “study of the heritage of Heydar Aliyev”. The National Academy of Sciences of Azerbaijan (ANAS) is seriously studying this discipline (not a joke).
            1. Bakht
              Bakht 29 March 2018 14: 56
              +1
              Make people laugh again? You will not find the name "Great Armenia" on any map. There are Big and Small Armenia. And with the exception of 15-20 years, this territory has always been under the rule of more powerful neighbors.
              Ah, yes Tigran 2 .... The Artashes dynasty that were satraps of the Seleucids. Tigran himself was a captive of the Parthians and bought his freedom for the land. Well, for about 20 years he took advantage of the fact that the Romans and Parthians mated. And then all .... Finita la comedy.
              For the ignoramus. In Latin the Great is magna. And the big one is major. So on the Roman maps there is Major Armenia and there is no Magna Armenia.
              Read more Armenian "historians".
              1. Butchcassidy
                Butchcassidy 29 March 2018 17: 23
                +1
                Ahaha haha)))) Such authoritative publications as Iranika, Britannica, TSB, EsBE, etc. write about Great Armenia etc.

                And you continue to improve your skills in Heydral studies)))
                1. Bakht
                  Bakht 29 March 2018 17: 46
                  +1
                  And quite well-known orientalists do not write. Continue to believe the myths of Armenian propaganda. Yes, and also tell tales about the Great and Terrible Tigran. Do not forget the dates of existence. The Third Reich was also called the Millennium. But there were 13 years. Comparable to "Greater Armenia"
                  1. Butchcassidy
                    Butchcassidy 29 March 2018 18: 04
                    +1
                    Well, it's good to pretend))) You are for id. I.otov, then do not count everyone around
                    Here is a link to what your official SCIENCE is studying
                    http://aliyevheritage.org/ru/30282546.html
                    The editions indicated by me are also written by reputable Oriental scholars and Armenologists from all over the world. This I did not mention individual publications.

                    If you are interested in links to sources, then there is a wonderful catalog of links - Wikipedia. There you will find a lot of what you mentioned. In addition to "Armenian propaganda."
                    Here is a link to a profile article
                    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Великая_Армения
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                      1. Butchcassidy
                        Butchcassidy 30 March 2018 10: 45
                        +1
                        Quote: Bakht
                        Never considered everyone around idiots. Of course I personally consider you. Learn normal literature. And yes, when you find a map where it will be written in Latin Armenia Magna - show me. So far I have only seen maps with the names of Armenia Major. And this is not Great

                        Personally, I don’t have to personally convince you of anything. The point of convincing one who is being seriously taught and studied in HEYDRAL RESEARCH? In the Bible, this is called throwing beads in front of pigs, i.e. to do something that will not be appreciated by the opponent.

                        As for Great Armenia, it is enough that for world science this is the same fact as the earth is spherical, and the ebbs and flows are caused by the influence of the moon.
            2. Ramzay121
              Ramzay121 30 March 2018 10: 30
              +2
              ButchCassidy- You’ll excuse me, but they distort the impossibility of 10-20 year history here, cat. flowed before our eyes, distorting facts, toponyms, history, absolutely everything, even obvious things. We are not used to it. And we must believe in what is written about their history already in the 1st century BC. No thanks, enough lies. The people have a cat. calls itself ancient for some reason there are no attributes of this antiquity. Well, judge, the kitchen was borrowed from the neighbors, the roots of Turkic surnames (very interesting why), songs stolen, etc.
              1. Bakht
                Bakht 30 March 2018 10: 50
                +1
                Like there are no attributes. During excavations at the site of the most ancient Armenian settlements, they did not find a telephone cable. Conclusion Armenians already used cell phones in the 5th century BC.
                1. Ramzay121
                  Ramzay121 30 March 2018 11: 04
                  +2
                  in fact, I forgot about IPHONEyan
              2. Butchcassidy
                Butchcassidy April 2 2018 13: 51
                0
                I don’t know what "attributes of antiquity" you are talking about and what you mean, but the examples you cite do not mean anything.

                You have a logic that does not allow you to draw objective conclusions. For example, many Turkic languages, including Turkish and Azerbaijani contain a lot of borrowings from other languages ​​and the percentage of borrowings can be very significant. So, borrowings from Arabic and Farsi are significant. Much less significant are borrowings in the indicated Turkic languages ​​from Armenian, but they are. And what from this? But nothing. It simply reflects parts of the history of the indicated languages ​​and language borrowing is not something with a “+” or “-” sign. This is just a fact. This is about the roots of surnames.

                And about the kitchen - read better than serious researchers of the Caucasus cuisine such as William Pokhlebkin - everything is written in Russian in white, you will learn a lot about your national cuisine and its origin)))
                1. Ramzay121
                  Ramzay121 April 2 2018 14: 07
                  +1
                  "but the examples you cite mean nothing"
                  And the explanations and examples you give do nothing at all. Once again, fairy tales, fables, etc. you can tell each other as much as you like about the antiquity of Armenians, but not to us, we know them too well. I have many friends of adequate Armenians, cat. also laugh at their jokes about their antiquity).
                  1. Butchcassidy
                    Butchcassidy April 2 2018 14: 19
                    +1
                    This is a conversation about nothing. I gave links to reputable international publications. Which fully confirm my words.

                    You cite as an example some renegades who are no one in world science and there is no way to call them.

                    I wish you good luck in studying the heritage of Heydar Aliyev. By the way, I write this without quotes, because he was a very cunning fox and participated (including because of his Kurdish origin) in the creation of the PKK by the Soviet State Security Committee and much more cunningly ruled the country. That’s why he objectively examined the situation and requested a ceasefire in 1994, when the Armenian troops were already in Kirovobad (Ganja, Gandzak). But he had serious experience and a serious school, and the current president graduated from MGIMO as a representative of the then "golden youth", did not engage in any serious work, and spent the whole war in Turkish casinos. Therefore, his managerial qualities are not at all what his father had.

                    But with all this, the legacy of G. Aliyev is not enough to study him as a serious scientific discipline. Nevertheless, ANAS in Baku is busy with just that.

                    At the same time, read the Wikipedia article on the falsification of history in the Republic of Azerbaijan at the state level, including the Soviet era.

                    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Фальсификация_истор
                    and_in_Azerbaijan
                    1. Ramzay121
                      Ramzay121 April 2 2018 14: 44
                      +1
                      Good luck to you in the study of Bagdasarov and his like schizo
                      1. Butchcassidy
                        Butchcassidy April 2 2018 15: 44
                        +1
                        Quote: Ramzay121
                        Good luck to you in the study of Bagdasarov and his like schizo

                        Characteristics on your conscience.
                        I will only note that Britannik, Iranik, TSB, BDT, EsBE, etc. Bagdasarov did not write, but world-famous scientists.
        3. Whitesnow
          Whitesnow 31 March 2018 18: 49
          +1
          In no way wanting to hurt you, I want to remind you that the United Kingdom, with the exact translation of the word great into Russian, suddenly turns into GREAT Britain.
          And Great Luke may unexpectedly be less than Malaya Vishera 550 times.
  10. nikvic46
    nikvic46 28 March 2018 10: 36
    +3
    Turkey plays a double game. The head of this country does not cease to repeat his desire to join the EEC. If she
    If it enters into this union, then Turkey will have to play according to the rules of Europe. Russia underestimates the influence of Turkey on Baku. And with Azerbaijan it is necessary to conduct a stricter conversation. One commentator correctly said, "And who will fight? They are all pamidors
    trade. "Of course, there is someone to fight. Representatives of Azerbaijan occupied all food markets.
    they make room for trading places for local sellers, otherwise we see them once a year at fairs.
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    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 28 March 2018 12: 09
      +2
      Quote: Trk-azr-fker
      Based on these considerations, you shoved them (Azerbaijanis) the Solntsepeks with the Tornadoes, right?

      Not Russia would deliver, so-Americans. But still they would have had such a weapon. And our base in Armenia is not a guarantee of protection?
      Tell me, if Russia withdraws its troops from your lands, then after how many hours will the boots of a NATO soldier stomp your land?
      Or do you personally do not care? You live in Russia. They warmed you, and you ...
    2. 72jora72
      72jora72 28 March 2018 12: 47
      +2
      Putin completely defeated insanity?
      Wow!! You start to bite the hand that feeds you, well, well ......
    3. Whitesnow
      Whitesnow 28 March 2018 16: 55
      +2
      And for what reasons did the Iskanders put in Armenia?
      Who said that the S-400 will be able to hit the airborne forces?
      Everyone will understand Putin’s actions in 10-20 years.
    4. Cheldon
      Cheldon 28 March 2018 17: 35
      +1
      Russia has two allies: the army and the navy.
  12. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 28 March 2018 10: 58
    +2
    The main obstacle for Turkey’s realization of its aggressive plans in Syria is Russia.
    Based on this, Ankara is trying to put pressure on our "sore spot" - the Karabakh conflict, in order to make us more accommodating.
    What for?! You can put pressure on the Turkish stream and the nuclear power plant under construction, because these construction projects are paid from the Russian budget. Moreover, the author would answer, why then Russia is actively selling weapons to Azerbaijan, then to "force peace" ?! wassat
    1. Normal ok
      Normal ok 28 March 2018 11: 33
      +2
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      What for?! You can put pressure on the Turkish stream and the nuclear power plant under construction

      Duc "Turkish stream" is just beneficial to Russia. And the construction of a nuclear power plant loads the capacities of Russian enterprises and in the future links Turkey to Russian fuel. Turkey itself can put pressure on all this.
  13. konstantin68
    konstantin68 28 March 2018 11: 39
    0
    [quote = Trk-azr-fker] [quote = rait] But you forget that our military base is located on the territory of Armenia. And it’s not just a “victory for both sides”, but in general the war is not needed oh. [/ Quote]

    Based on these considerations, you shoved them (Azerbaijanis) the Solntsepeks with the Tornadoes, right?
    And why, in fact, it was necessary to supply S-400 to Turkey? What's the point? In the hope that this will split Turkey and NATO? Or maybe you wanted your Dryers to be stunned even more spectacularly by your own air defense missiles? Where is your logic? The plane was shot down, the ambassador was shot on the air, and you still shove their weapons? Putin completely defeated insanity?
    How did you, comrade, forget about “Iskander” near Yerevan? Since hysteria has begun, let's be at least truthful.
  14. konstantin68
    konstantin68 28 March 2018 11: 44
    +1
    Flag of Armenia.svg Armenia is the first country in the world after the Russian Federation to receive Iskander PTRC in 2016
    Wikipedia
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    1. Whitesnow
      Whitesnow 28 March 2018 17: 09
      +6
      Do you recall the surname of one of the instigators of the Sumgayit events? Is it not Grigoryan by chance? And how many Azerbaijanis and when did they leave Kafan and the region? And what did you call the immigrants from the NKAR of Armenian nationality? And who killed the last Hero of the Soviet Union?
      Although my opinion coincides with the opinion of the great Mahatma Gandhi. It is necessary to forget the war and begin to live in peace. Otherwise, a sad future awaits you and the Azerbaijanis.
      1. Butchcassidy
        Butchcassidy 28 March 2018 18: 12
        +3
        Quote: Whitesnow
        Do you recall the surname of one of the instigators of the Sumgayit events? Is it not Grigoryan by chance? And how many Azerbaijanis and when did they leave Kafan and the region? And what did you call the immigrants from the NKAR of Armenian nationality? And who killed the last Hero of the Soviet Union?
        Although my opinion coincides with the opinion of the great Mahatma Gandhi. It is necessary to forget the war and begin to live in peace. Otherwise, a sad future awaits you and the Azerbaijanis.

        Oleg, if you are in the photo, then you are an adult and a serious person. Well, do not repeat these tales about Sumgait and Grigoryan. Though read Wikipedia)
        1. Cheldon
          Cheldon 28 March 2018 18: 40
          0
          Wikipedia is written by those who are interested, nothing more. This is not the Bible.
          Quote: ButchCassidy
          Oleg, if you are in the photo, then you are an adult and a serious person. Well, do not repeat these tales about Sumgait and Grigoryan. Though read Wikipedia)
          1. Butchcassidy
            Butchcassidy 29 March 2018 12: 18
            +1
            Quote: Cheldon
            Wikipedia is written by those who are interested, nothing more. This is not the Bible.

            Of course, not the Bible! We are not talking about this. But at least something needs to be read by yourself before speaking on serious topics. At least something Wikipedia
            1. mariusdeayeraleone
              mariusdeayeraleone 29 March 2018 18: 08
              +1
              And what is written on your wikipedia? 500 million Armenians died in Sumgait? Do you want me to come right now and write on the wiki like that?
              26 people were killed. They built a mini-pogrom of the KGB of the USSR and the Armenians themselves.
              This is how the Americans themselves blew up the buildings on September 11 so that there was a reason for the warrior in the east.
        2. Whitesnow
          Whitesnow 31 March 2018 18: 53
          0
          And in aunt Vika Teresa May write nothing in power? This is me for example. And at first they said about Grigoryan that he was Russian, since his mother was Russian, and then that he did not exist at all.
          But the fact that the Sumgayit events flowed from the events in Kafan and the area you do not deny?
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    1. Whitesnow
      Whitesnow 28 March 2018 17: 13
      0
      Against Solntsepyok, Tornadoes, T-90S, self-propelled guns Vienna, BMP-Z you have the 102nd military base. And let Azerbaijanis buy at least something and at least from anyone. Except for parades, this is all the more worthless. Well, so that the generals do not sit idle.
      1. Butchcassidy
        Butchcassidy 28 March 2018 18: 14
        +1
        Quote: Whitesnow
        Against Solntsepyok, Tornadoes, T-90S, self-propelled guns Vienna, BMP-Z you have the 102nd military base. And let Azerbaijanis buy at least something and at least from anyone. Except for parades, this is all the more worthless. Well, so that the generals do not sit idle.

        Turkey has neither the Solcepeks, nor the Tornadoes, nor the T-90, nor anything else. Namely, the issue of security from the Turkish border is occupied by the 102nd base in Gyumri.
        1. Whitesnow
          Whitesnow 31 March 2018 19: 12
          0
          I suspect that you think that the territory of Armenia is akin to the territory of Russia? Or at least Ukraine?
          Perhaps with a theoretical aggravation of Azerbaijani-Armenian relations leading to the invasion of Azerbaijani troops 150 kilometers separating Leninakan from Kazakhs will become an insurmountable obstacle? But will the city of Baku and the oil fields of Azerbaijan not be endangered by the CSTO allies of Armenia?
          So the 102nd base of the GRVZ not only covers the Turkish direction.
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    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 28 March 2018 12: 54
      +1
      Quote: Trk-azr-fker
      Quote: BecmepH
      Quote: Trk-azr-fker
      Based on these considerations, you shoved them (Azerbaijanis) the Solntsepeks with the Tornadoes, right?

      Not Russia would deliver, so-Americans. But still they would have had such a weapon. And our base in Armenia is not a guarantee of protection?
      Tell me, if Russia withdraws its troops from your lands, then after how many hours will the boots of a NATO soldier stomp your land?
      Or do you personally do not care? You live in Russia. They warmed you, and you ...


      1) Are we not so different right? Oh well. I am very glad that America sold Jewelins to Ukraine. Now, in your own skin you will recognize the effect of the phrase "Not We, But Others."

      2) As for the guarantee, I wouldn’t get it wrong. No need to build heroes. You were not able to do anything against Turkey when it scorched your feathers, God forgive me. Dushka only had to arrange clowning in the straits with MANPADS. So do not flaunt.

      3) As for the base, you are our esteemed strategist, Russia needs this base no less than Armenia, which, by the way, dumped hectares of land for this base free of charge. Remember your 201st base in Tajikistan. It was also necessary to request a couple of hundred million for a rental, then they would know.

      4) And the most important thing. NO I DO NOT LIVE IN RUSSIA. SAVE THE LORD, IT HAS GIVEN TO ME, A STATE IN WHICH THE LAW IS AN EMPTY SOUND, AND HUMAN RIGHTS ARE A WATER OF PRINTED A4 PAPERS, AND AN AMORAL LIFE IS A MANDELINE FOR MILLIONS.

      5) Oh yes, how I forgot. Let it be known to you, dear patriot of Russia, in 2012, the USA and Germany refused to sell HUMVEE armored cars to Azerbaijan, citing an unresolved conflict. Explain to you, or you already realized everything?

      Empty your intestines?))) Now throw on the fan.
      Are you gloating? Well, come on. Only to whom do you turn for help when Aliyev comes for his?
      Remember that it turns out we are connected by a long history, that we are brothers. Faith will come here.
      It will all be! In the meantime, gloat. Just beware, how would you anger from the inside not gobbled up.
      All the best to you and your loved ones. From the heart.
    2. Stiletto_711
      Stiletto_711 28 March 2018 22: 36
      +2
      What kind of infantile nonsense? Funny to read negative
      Have you tried to look at the situation from the point of view of Russia? It seems no, you have obvious problems understanding others. Well, I’ll help you a bit. Here is how it looks to me as a citizen of Russia and Russian.
      Two small nations live near our country, which earlier refused to live with us in the same state and separated. They really do not like each other and periodically engage in a massacre that develops into armed conflict. We don’t like it, because refugees, chaos, instability. Yes and in general, it’s unpleasant when a mess is being planted near your house.

      Further, one of the parties to the conflict - Azerbaijan, is under the strong influence of Turkey, with which our relations are not simple, but the country is relatively not poor and it is interesting to do business with it, including and weapons. They pay in full and in good order. The other side is Armenia, as it were, our ally, but so strange, more and more at the same gate, on important issues we are not supporting (Ossetia, Abkhazia, Crimea, etc.), but are actively using preferences, discounted weapons and even and on credit, assistance in guarding the borders and airspace, guarantees of military assistance from us in case of aggression against the territory of the country. Well, okay, this is expected, in return we have a military base.
      Because both sides do not want to put up with the word at all, and there is no strength to completely defeat the opponent yet, then the militarization process is ongoing.
      Here it is necessary to correctly understand the interests of Russia, except for the unwillingness to get a conflict at its borders, we are not profitable for the victory of either side in such a conflict. Azerbaijan will crush Armenia, there will be a large pro-Turkish Transcaucasia. Armenia will begin to crush Azerbaijan, Turkey will inevitably join in, and then it will seriously flare up.
      Therefore, instead of ineffective attempts to hinder the militarization of nations that hate each other, we participate in this process, having some control over the situation and ensuring a balance of forces. smile
      And about the fact that someone should help you and contribute to the realization of your small-town interests ... you will forgive the adult, and you believe in fairy tales lol
      Well, I welcome your reluctance to live in Russia in every possible way, you would have propagandized your compatriots, well, in order to bring up great Armenia to your homeland hi
    3. Whitesnow
      Whitesnow 31 March 2018 19: 13
      0
      Regarding paragraph 5.
      Maybe it's not a conflict? Maybe it’s the president-kbshnik?
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    1. mariusdeayeraleone
      mariusdeayeraleone 28 March 2018 16: 28
      +3
      The cha hysteria has begun.
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 28 March 2018 21: 04
      +1
      Quote: Trk-azr-fker
      in response to good arguments.

      belay Oh, how ... Retelling news of various ages, with "conclusions" based on their own conjectures, is called "compelling arguments." Emotions are clearly the enemy of the thought process. No offense. hi
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    1. Cheldon
      Cheldon 28 March 2018 17: 44
      +1
      Quote: Trk-azr-fker
      Books must be read. Then you would know what belongs to whom, otherwise you will remain a fool.

      Read and wipe out http://modernlib.ru/books/velichko_vasiliy_lvovic
      h / kavkaz / read /
      Velichko Vasily Lvovich "Caucasus"
      Velichko, Vasily Lvovich [July 14, 1860 - December 31, 1903 [January 13, 1904]) is a Russian poet, publicist and public figure.
      1. garnik
        garnik 29 March 2018 09: 07
        +1
        Such M.razi still exist. And he did not say anything about Azerbaijanis? Oh yes, this people had to exist at that time in order to write about it. This scribe despised all non-Russians. Read those authors who idolize the Armenians.
        Read the memoirs of Denikin, respected in all respects, a patriot of Russia.
  22. Tevdori
    Tevdori 28 March 2018 13: 20
    +3
    Georgia is also a Turkish partner, in the event of an aggravation of the situation, Armenia may find itself in an actual blockade, with the only “window" to Iran.

    Georgia, although Turkey’s partner, will not block Armenia from the “window”.
    The situation is very complicated, it is a kind of incandescent lamp. As soon as the Azerbaijanis and Turks have serious leverage on Russia, then immediately the Azerbaijanis will go into battle ....
    Armenians know how to fight, they have the spirit, but we must admit, if it were not for the Russian base, they would have been "eaten" ...
    1. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy 28 March 2018 16: 53
      +3
      Quote: Tevdori
      Georgia, although Turkey’s partner, will not block Armenia from the “window”.
      The situation is very complicated, it is a kind of incandescent lamp. As soon as the Azerbaijanis and Turks have serious leverage on Russia, then immediately the Azerbaijanis will go into battle ....
      Armenians know how to fight, they have the spirit, but we must admit, if it were not for the Russian base, they would have been "eaten" ...

      The role of the military base in Gyumri for Armenia is to block the direct entry of Turkey into the war with Armenia. Secretly, the Turks always fight against the Armenians on the side of Baku.

      The potential available to Az.R., including Nakhichevan, the Armenian states can cope on their own.
  23. danan
    danan 28 March 2018 13: 42
    +6
    Definitely a pro-Armenian article. Aliyev’s statement is being smashed, Azerbaijan is called the aggressor, as if Azerbaijan was holding the land’s arm.
    From history we know how often Russia unsuccessfully chose allies in its wars. Aliyev understands that while Russia regulates Karabakh there will be no peaceful solution. And in Russia they do not want to understand that in this matter the people are pushing their president.
    Well, an ally from Armenia is the same as from the Arabs-
    Arabs' loyalty cannot be bought! just rent!
    1. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy 28 March 2018 16: 46
      +2
      Quote: danan
      Definitely a pro-Armenian article. Aliyev’s statement is being smashed, Azerbaijan is called the aggressor, as if Azerbaijan was holding the land’s arm.
      From history we know how often Russia unsuccessfully chose allies in its wars. Aliyev understands that while Russia regulates Karabakh there will be no peaceful solution. And in Russia they do not want to understand that in this matter the people are pushing their president.
      Well, an ally from Armenia is the same as from the Arabs-
      Arabs' loyalty cannot be bought! just rent!

      Do not fantasize. And the Armenians are not Arabs. Both Armenia and Armenians never betrayed their allied obligations to Russia, starting from the tenth century.
      1. Ramzay121
        Ramzay121 30 March 2018 10: 44
        +2
        "Do not fantasize. And the Armenians are not Arabs."

        That's right, do not insult the Arabs by comparing them)
    2. garnik
      garnik 29 March 2018 09: 11
      0
      Semites they are Semites, what can you do.
      1. Butchcassidy
        Butchcassidy 29 March 2018 12: 19
        +1
        I have nothing against the Semites, but to compare the Armenians with the Arabs is not serious. As well as to quote from the Lawrence of Arabia out of place.
      2. alexsipin
        alexsipin 30 March 2018 09: 10
        +1
        Quote: garnik
        Semites they are Semites, what can you do.

        Yes, you did not save the Jews. Now, sadness has come to you.
        And as for the allies, the rights of Comrade donan. all worthless of you. Who Nzhdeh put a monument in Yerevan. And by the way, he fought on the side of Nazi Germany. This is not good.
        1. danan
          danan 30 March 2018 10: 31
          +2
          As a former Bakuer, I could add many more arguments in support of my words, but ... it is not worth the Israeli to get involved in the interethnic. conflict. The main thing Azerbaijanis themselves know and respect the memory of Albert Agarunov.
        2. Butchcassidy
          Butchcassidy 30 March 2018 10: 37
          0
          Quote: alexsipin
          Yes, you did not save the Jews. Now, sadness has come to you.
          And as for the allies, the rights of Comrade donan. all worthless of you. Who Nzhdeh put a monument in Yerevan. And by the way, he fought on the side of Nazi Germany. This is not good.

          Tell me, what do you know about Nzhdeh, what do you judge? Well this is bullshit! He did not fight on any side of Germany.

          He was tried for anti-Soviet activities in Armenia, Soviet investigators showed him NOTHING for any cooperation with the Nazis, because there was no cooperation.
          Moreover, Nzhdeh died in the Vladimir Central due to a state of health that was undermined during the two Balkan wars (on the side of the Balkan Union against the Turks), the Armenian National Liberation Movement (against the Turks), World War I (the Caucasian Front - on the side of the Russian Empire against the Turks), as well as during the February Uprising of 1921 against the Soviet power in Armenia. All (!) More he did not fight anywhere.

          As can be seen from his track record, his main opponent was the Turks. Moreover, for his feats of arms, he was awarded the Imperial Orders of St. Vladimir and St. Anne and two George Crosses, and is also a National Hero of the Armenian and Bulgarian peoples!

          He was arrested when, when the Soviet troops approached, while in Sofia, he did not flee from there, but wrote to Stalin about his readiness to join the Red Army as an experienced commander in the hope that Stalin would go to war against the Turks. But the letter, apparently, did not reach Stalin, but the Chekists decided to recall his anti-Soviet activities.

          For all his labors, a monument to him stands in Yerevan.
          Moreover, the Supreme Court of Russia refused to rehabilitate him as a political prisoner, as he was not sentenced and rehabilitate there is nothing to it.

          PS Stalin really had plans for a war against Turkey. That is why the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were needed - to demonstrate that there is an unprecedented weapon. And Stalin understood the hint very well, although he didn’t give a look at the conversation with Truman. That is why the southwestern border with Turkey has not changed, although the Red Army was forced to hold significant forces on the border with Turkey because of the threat of the Turks entering the war. The Turks planned to declare war after the fall of Stalingrad ... All this very much Stalin wanted to remember, but fate decreed otherwise.
          1. Bakht
            Bakht 30 March 2018 10: 53
            0
            How well you know the story ..... That's when they carried out the first deportation of Azerbaijanis from Armenia. Do you remember?
          2. alexsipin
            alexsipin April 1 2018 09: 42
            0
            Quote: ButchCassidy
            Nzhdeh

            Your whole beautiful passage is refuted by one phrase from Wikipedia:
            "in the early 1940s, participated in the creation of Armenian paramilitary units within the Wehrmacht, trained under the guidance of SS instructors"
            There is a reference to historical research: "Melkumyan L. Ye. Garegin Nzhdeh and his doctrine of the Armenian clan between East and West." - Voronezh: Faculty of International Relations. Center for Oriental Studies, 2017 .-- pp. 136-143.
            The author of the study is not difficult to guess by the name of an Armenian, so it is unlikely that he can be blamed for pro-Azerbaijani propaganda.
            1. Butchcassidy
              Butchcassidy April 2 2018 14: 00
              +1
              Quote: alexsipin
              Your whole beautiful passage is refuted by one phrase from Wikipedia:
              "in the early 1940s, participated in the creation of Armenian paramilitary units within the Wehrmacht, trained under the guidance of SS instructors"
              There is a reference to historical research: "Melkumyan L. Ye. Garegin Nzhdeh and his doctrine of the Armenian clan between East and West." - Voronezh: Faculty of International Relations. Center for Oriental Studies, 2017 .-- pp. 136-143.
              The author of the study is not difficult to guess by the name of an Armenian, so it is unlikely that he can be blamed for pro-Azerbaijani propaganda.


              ;) Investigators from the NKVD, being merely professional lawyers in uniform in the post-war period, did not understand (following your logic) that they could and should be blamed for Nzhdeh. He was accused solely of anti-Soviet activity in Zangezur during the formation of Soviet power in Armenia.

              Everything else is your fantasy on the subject. No more.
        3. skif02
          30 March 2018 14: 10
          +2
          On the side of Germany, Nzhdeh did not fight, the old one was already. I did some organizational work, and I was engaged in propaganda.
  24. 75 hammer
    75 hammer 28 March 2018 13: 54
    +1
    Hot Caucasian (and those and those) guys-calm down the war in Karabakh will not be! It would be better to learn to hear each other! On the territory of the Russian Federation, you get along well, and even drink cognac together! Or how you come home, it’s immediately taken for a dagger to clutch! CARE OUT! Better tell us why some Armenian proxy forces tried in 2016 to discredit the base in Gyumri? Explicitly acting on the hand of Azerbaijan! AAAAAA ....?
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    1. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy 28 March 2018 17: 01
      +7
      Quote: Trk-azr-fker
      Discredit the base in Gyumri? And the Armenians also shot the Avetisyan family, * retin?

      You don’t have to reach idiocy and pour water on the mill of the enemies of Armenia. A tragedy happened with the Avetisyans, the guilty sectarian was punished. But this has nothing to do with either the military base or its deployment in Armenia, and 30-40% of Russian contractors on a rotational basis are Armenian soldiers - citizens of the Russian Federation.
      1. ir-san
        ir-san 30 March 2018 15: 13
        +1
        Do not reach idio.tizma and pour water on the mill of enemies of Armenia

        Straight to the Bullseye +100
        Do not give in to provocations
        Trk-azr-fkker with the Armenian flag, he is the same Armenian, to I am a Martian))
        All his comments, provocative, pouring water on the State Department mill
        Thank God, very many understand this
        1. Dry
          Dry 31 March 2018 16: 48
          0
          Quote: ir-san
          Do not reach idio.tizma and pour water on the mill of enemies of Armenia
          Straight to the Bullseye +100
          Do not give in to provocations
          Trk-azr-fkker with the Armenian flag, he is the same Armenian, to I am a Martian))
          All his comments, provocative, pouring water on the State Department mill

          I fully support.
  26. Harabad
    Harabad 28 March 2018 14: 57
    +3
    If Azerbaijan starts, then I think the war will end in Baku. If the UN does not stop. One step closer to Constantinople. To pray and confess in Hagia Sophia according to the Orthodox rite.
    Therefore, they do not start.
    1. mariusdeayeraleone
      mariusdeayeraleone 28 March 2018 16: 32
      +3
      They do not start because of respect for the Russian Federation, although Russia has hurt us greatly. To lose you more than anyone
      1. Butchcassidy
        Butchcassidy 28 March 2018 18: 21
        +5
        Quote: mariusdeayeraleone
        They do not start because of respect for the Russian Federation, although Russia has hurt us greatly. To lose you more than anyone

        Do not start because of the inability to win the war. In general, what is it like to be an army that does not know the taste of victory? After all, Baku has no other and your army has never and never won.
        Hacking an sleeping Armenian officer with an ax on courses in Budapest is not considered. Although I. Aliyev thinks that this is a victory, both labor and ub.lyu dok Ramil Safarov is a hero. The same "heroes" are now in Kiev in the form of Bandera and Shukhevych.
        http://safarov.org/vozvrasheniye-geroya.html
        1. mariusdeayeraleone
          mariusdeayeraleone 28 March 2018 21: 38
          +1
          Have you noticed the allies of Azerbaijan? If he is such a coward, where the stock of allies comes from, KTR is ready to help at any time!
          1. Butchcassidy
            Butchcassidy 29 March 2018 12: 20
            +1
            Quote: mariusdeayeraleone
            Have you noticed the allies of Azerbaijan? If he is such a coward, where the stock of allies comes from, KTR is ready to help at any time!

            And what about Az.R. allies other than Turkey?
            1. mariusdeayeraleone
              mariusdeayeraleone 29 March 2018 18: 14
              0
              Do you understand why azarbaigan is kept neutral, from Russia and the United States or China, and they, in turn, do not say a word?
            2. Yeraz
              Yeraz 29 March 2018 18: 47
              +1
              Quote: ButchCassidy
              And what about Az.R. allies other than Turkey?

              The main ally of Pakistan. The only country that does not recognize Armenia as a state, even because of Karabakh. Turkey recognizes Armenia.
              And Pakistan is really an ally, the countries have neither economic interests, nor normal investments, nor tourism, even by faith the majority of Sunnis are there, Shiites are in Azerbaijan. Only Islamic solidarity and memory of Kyzylbash and EVERYTHING who ruled there.
              There are practically no such unions in the world.
              1. alexsipin
                alexsipin 30 March 2018 09: 22
                +1
                Honestly. Most of the Israelis are on your side, But if you think that the Allies will fight for you, but apparently you will not quickly return your land. You need a special army, not like the army of Russia or Turkey. It should not be large, very well armed. sharpened for military operations in the mountains. For action on the plain, you need heavy tanks equipped with the latest technology protection, because a grenade launcher will be waiting for you from behind every stone. The Air Force should be given very great importance. If your Air Force cannot achieve complete air supremacy, then it’s better not to start a war.
                1. Dry
                  Dry 31 March 2018 16: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: alexsipin
                  Honestly. Most Israelis are by your side,

                  Honestly, reading this phrase, I was very surprised, but then I read it:
                  Quote: alexsipin
                  It should not be large, very well armed. sharpened for military operations in the mountains. For action on the plain, you need heavy tanks equipped with the latest protection,

                  and everything fell into place. The usual marketing campaign of the military-industrial complex of Israel.
                  1. alexsipin
                    alexsipin April 1 2018 09: 45
                    +2
                    Quote: Brut
                    Honestly, reading this phrase, I was very surprised, but then I read it:

                    Frankly, the anti-Semitism of Armenians has always surprised me, although the Jews did not seem to live in Armenia. Yes Gd with them with the Jews. Your attitude towards Georgians, your closest neighbors, Christians with whom you have a lot of historical ties, has always surprised. In addition to contempt and hatred towards the Georgians, he did not read anything on the Armenian websites.
                    1. Dry
                      Dry April 2 2018 13: 19
                      0
                      Quote: alexsipin
                      Frankly, the anti-Semitism of Armenians has always surprised me, although the Jews did not seem to live in Armenia. Yes Gd with them with the Jews.

                      Frankly, if you even managed to write me down as anti-Semites, then you are an ordinary propagandist. In general, I am very negative about any form of xenophobia. As for anti-Semitism among Armenians in general, I’ve been looking for anti-Semites among Armenians for almost a year (after a similar statement by the Professor), and, imagine, I found one violent and one semi-anti-Semite, but among hundreds of different people. So do not distort. Gd with them, with the Jews and with all of us.
                      Quote: alexsipin
                      Your attitude towards Georgians, your closest neighbors, Christians with whom you have a lot of historical ties, has always surprised. In addition to contempt and hatred towards the Georgians, he did not read anything on the Armenian websites.

                      I understand that you are an ardent Armenian-phobe or such a job, but nevertheless, do not write outright stupid things. By the way, do you know Armenian?
                  2. alexsipin
                    alexsipin April 1 2018 09: 50
                    +1
                    Quote: Brut
                    The usual marketing campaign of the military-industrial complex of Israel.

                    I must tell you that this is not the worst military-industrial complex, if we compare the military successes of all the states conducting military operations in the BV.
                    1. Dry
                      Dry April 2 2018 13: 22
                      0
                      Quote: alexsipin
                      I must tell you - not the worst military-industrial complex,

                      I would say very not even bad.
                2. Yeraz
                  Yeraz April 1 2018 15: 03
                  +1
                  Quote: alexsipin
                  But if you think that the allies will fight for you, but apparently you will not quickly return your land.

                  Most believe that they themselves should fight. There is a small handful who thinks that Turkey should fight. Azerbaijan did not participate in the support of the Turkmens economically or diplomatically. Therefore, it is certainly not our cow to mumble for help.
                  Quote: alexsipin
                  It should not be large, very well armed. sharpened for military operations in the mountains.

                  she is imprisoned for this.
                  Quote: alexsipin
                  The Air Force should be given very great importance. If your Air Force cannot achieve complete air supremacy, then it’s better not to start a war.

                  and this is already a moment independent of Azerbaijan. Russia is not selling. EU and US embargoes. The Chinese assembled in Pakistan remain, but the engines are Russian there, plus the unit itself has not fought fully anywhere.
                  But even without this, without the intervention of the Russian Federation, Armenia cannot stand it, but Russia supports in all aspects.
                  And Azerbaijan chose other ways. The economic strangulation of Armenia.
                  It was Azerbaijan that gave loans to Georgia so that the Baku-Tbilisi-Kars railway would be.
                  This Azerbaijan made such an offer to Iran that they sent Armenians from their North-South and switched to Azerbaijan.
                  Azerbaijan will build a terminal complex there for 60 million and give 500 million dollars of credit for the construction of the Iranian section of the North-South railway.
                  Make yourself more meaningful so that Armenia becomes more and more expensive, both for its allies and for the Armenians themselves, whose birth rate is lower and migration will be several times higher from the country and there will be less investment.
                  So far, Azerbaijan has not reached the level for Russia to throw Armenians.
                  But as they say, the strengthening of Turkey and Azerbaijan and the increasing confrontation with the West may lead to a situation where Russia will step aside and Azerbaijan will drive out the invaders
                3. Butchcassidy
                  Butchcassidy April 2 2018 13: 42
                  +1
                  In general, I agree. But the current situation in Armenia is inexorably affected by geography, namely the possibility of blockade and its actual implementation for more than 20 years. and Turkey. Israel has always had access to maritime traffic.

                  Because of this, Armenia is forced to maintain its production of ammunition, although its contents under normal conditions would be excessive and many, even large countries, do not contain it, since it is easier to buy. But not in the case of Armenia, when their delivery at a critical moment may be disrupted.

                  And the blockade is one of the forms of warfare, thus both Turkey and Az.R. actually did not stop the war against Armenia. Therefore, Armenia does not have a sufficiently developed economy that allows it to contain the necessary air forces.

                  Therefore, Armenia, based on existing opportunities, develops and purchases the weapons that it can afford.
              2. Butchcassidy
                Butchcassidy 30 March 2018 10: 57
                +1
                Quote: Yeraz
                The main ally of Pakistan. The only country that does not recognize Armenia as a state, even because of Karabakh. Turkey recognizes Armenia.
                And Pakistan is really an ally, the countries have neither economic interests, nor normal investments, nor tourism, even by faith the majority of Sunnis are there, Shiites are in Azerbaijan. Only Islamic solidarity and memory of Kyzylbash and EVERYTHING who ruled there.
                There are practically no such unions in the world.

                Tyuyuyu! Do you really think that everyone around does not understand anything? All this position of Pakistan is based on banal corruption, i.e. bribes that Baku is distributing left and right for the necessary decisions or placing in the country a "monument to Heydar Aliyev". In the West, this policy of Baku is called "caviar diplomacy" and served as the basis for numerous parliamentary and journalistic investigations.

                So do not tell tales: Baku’s only ally is Ankara, not Islamabad. Islamabad Yerevan is a light bulb, and Yerevan is Islamabad, since there were no relations between Armenia and Pakistan. But if the Pakistanis are neither cold nor hot, and the Baku friends are ready to give generous "gifts" to individual Pakistani parliamentarians for this, then why not? We’ll make a couple of high-profile statements, because they cost nothing.
                1. Yeraz
                  Yeraz April 3 2018 19: 21
                  0
                  Quote: ButchCassidy
                  But if the Pakistanis are neither cold nor hot, and the Baku friends are ready to give generous "gifts" to individual Pakistani parliamentarians for this, then why not?

                  Are you really kidding ??? Or are you making a fool of yourself ??? Compare the purchase of a permit to build a Park or a monument with the purchase of the TOP leadership of the country so that it does not recognize another, are these things on the same level ????
                  Those. little Azerbaijan is able to buy Nuclear Pakistan as much as such a level that it DOESN’T RECOGNIZE a whole country, but cannot do the same with a number of other Small states, which are also sideways to Armenia, Azerbaijan couldn’t ??? much more effective than not recognizing one country. And so 5 countries of the world or 10 countries of the world will not recognize Armenia.
                  Therefore, Pakistan is a real ally. Like Uzbekistan, which has never built diplomatic relations with the Armenians, it is true that there is a bit of an economy in contrast to Pakistan, but it plays a different aspect, the massacre organized by the Dashnaks in Ferghana is what the Uzbeks remember well. , for Armenians we are all Turkes.
                  1. Butchcassidy
                    Butchcassidy April 3 2018 19: 43
                    0
                    Quote: Yeraz
                    Are you really kidding ??? Or are you making a fool of yourself ??? Compare the purchase of a permit to build a Park or a monument with the purchase of the TOP leadership of the country so that it does not recognize another, are these things on the same level ????

                    Do you doubt the purchase of Pakistan? He became nuclear on the grandmother of Saudi Arabia. And the Saudis calmly declare that if Iran receives nuclear weapons, they will calmly buy it from Pakistan. Why is a state that can easily sell nuclear weapons to wealthy sponsors just as well not be able to sell its position on some issue, in this case, Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh?
                    So here the question is like in a joke:
                    “Girl, would you surrender to me for a million dollars?”
                    - Mmmm ... Yes!
                    - And for $ 100?
                    “Who do you take me for ?!”
                    - For whom I accept - it’s understandable, it remains to agree on a price ...

                    Moreover, I wrote earlier that Pakistan sold "air" for Baku petrodollars within the framework of "caviar diplomacy", i.e. he didn’t sacrifice anything, as there are no relations between Armenia and Pakistan and never was. And it was not the whole country that was bought, but only individual senators and politicians who promote the non-recognition of Armenia, from which Armenia is neither cold nor hot. With all this, Armenia recognizes Pakistan;)

                    In addition, the position of Pakistan began to form in Baku under G. Aliyev, when Mujahideen in Karabakh began to come from Afghanistan on a “business trip”. As you probably guess, dushmans didn’t come for free - everything was paid by Baku. All this could not happen without the knowledge and supervision of the Pakistani secret services. So everything is simple - grandmas;)

                    And yet, Pakistan is the only country that does not recognize Armenia. No more people were found lol
                    1. Yeraz
                      Yeraz April 3 2018 20: 07
                      0
                      Quote: ButchCassidy
                      And not the whole country was bought, but only certain senators and politicians who promote the non-recognition of Armenia

                      Not recognizing the whole country is not in the competence of a bunch of senators and politicians. Such a decision is made by the Higher Elite.
                      But you never made the argument that Azerbaijan did not buy a bunch of small countries, which also have no relationship with Armenia and which could be bought for cheaper and in a larger quantity and the effect would be wide.
                      Yes, Pakistan’s military budget is only over 10 billion dollars. It’s almost like the WHOLE Budget of Azerbaijan. How many times have the POOR country managed to buy a richer one ???
                      And yet, as she did in the 90s, when there were no NEFTEDOLLARS ??? Azerbaijan began to grow rich in 2006 with the launch of the BTC.
                      How did she buy even richer Pakistan in those years, at low oil prices in the 90s ??
                      Now understand the absurdity of your statements ???
                      1. Butchcassidy
                        Butchcassidy April 4 2018 01: 06
                        0
                        In Pakistan, per capita GDP is $ 1500, while in Az.R. - $ 4000 (2016, IMF). Who is richer?

                        And at the same time read about corruption in Pakistan. The most striking example is Benazir Bhutto, who herself and the government of 2D were suspended for corruption.
  27. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 28 March 2018 15: 03
    +6
    Another full-time Turkish and Azeri-phobic Military Review. How many guys do you have? What is Semik Baghdasarov cloning you for?)) What did Azerbaijan do to you? And the Armenians (not without the help of Russia) took away the land from Azerbaijan, and drove people out of the land, and carried out ethnic cleansing and genocide and atrocities in Karabakh, including Khojaly. Karadagly, Agdaban, Mesheli and so on. committed. What do you want more ri Azerbaijan? So anyway, Azerbaijan is an aggressor. Everything is upside down. It turns out well done Armenians - they piss on the flag of Russia, burn it, insult the Russian leadership with the last words. And in Azerbaijani for some reason))) Sources: http://de.euronews.com/2016/04/14/konflikt-um-ber
    g-karabach-anti-russische-demonstration-in-armeni
    en
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr2fvUXKPcY
    And the Armenians signed a treaty with the EU, and now they flirt with NATO and stimulate their zones in different ways))) But he is not an ally of Russia))) Borzopisets Jerilievsky said, but suggested Semik Baghdasarov. And to hell with Russia he gave up so worthless, no one asked? And so Russia is behind the aggression of Armenia, and who needs an ally or parasite and parasite? All of Armenia is dependent on Russia, unlike Azerbaijan .. ..
    But Azerbaijan is said to be an aggressor, dared to demand its territories back in Karabakh in order to return a million refugees to their homes. This is blatant Azerbaijani aggression according to Dzherelievsky ... Azerbaijan should not demand its lands. So tell me right away, they say Russia gave Russia these lands to Armenia, because the Armenians so beautifully burn the flag of Russia and burn it, the Russian leadership is insulted The EU is entering, but they want to enter NATO, so that we Azerbaijanis also understand what to do in order to please Dzherelievsky. Well, the EU is so the EU is with NATO.
    And if tomorrow Kyrgyzstan suddenly gets enraged, will trample on Uzbekistan, and even worse take advantage of the unrest in Uzbekistan, for example, and capture the Namangan region under the pretext of protecting the local Kyrgyz? According to the biased scribble of Dzherelievsky, Russia should fit in for Kyrgyzstan, despite the fact that this is aggression?
    1. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy 28 March 2018 17: 35
      +5
      Quote: Scorpio05
      Another full-time Turkish and Azeri-phobic Military Review. How many guys do you have? What is Semik Baghdasarov cloning you for?)) What did Azerbaijan do to you? And the Armenians (not without the help of Russia) took away the land from Azerbaijan, and drove people out of the land, and carried out ethnic cleansing and genocide and atrocities in Karabakh, including Khojaly. Karadagly, Agdaban, Mesheli and so on. committed. What do you want more ri Azerbaijan? So anyway, Azerbaijan is an aggressor. Everything is upside down. It turns out well done Armenians - they piss on the flag of Russia, burn it, insult the Russian leadership with the last words. And in Azerbaijani for some reason))) Sources: http://de.euronews.com/2016/04/14/konflikt-um-ber
      g-karabach-anti-russische-demonstration-in-armeni
      en
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr2fvUXKPcY
      And the Armenians signed a treaty with the EU, and now they flirt with NATO and stimulate their zones in different ways))) But he is not an ally of Russia))) Borzopisets Jerilievsky said, but suggested Semik Baghdasarov. And to hell with Russia he gave up so worthless, no one asked? And so Russia is behind the aggression of Armenia, and who needs an ally or parasite and parasite? All of Armenia is dependent on Russia, unlike Azerbaijan .. ..
      But Azerbaijan is said to be an aggressor, dared to demand its territories back in Karabakh in order to return a million refugees to their homes. This is blatant Azerbaijani aggression according to Dzherelievsky ... Azerbaijan should not demand its lands. So tell me right away, they say Russia gave Russia these lands to Armenia, because the Armenians so beautifully burn the flag of Russia and burn it, the Russian leadership is insulted The EU is entering, but they want to enter NATO, so that we Azerbaijanis also understand what to do in order to please Dzherelievsky. Well, the EU is so the EU is with NATO.
      And if tomorrow Kyrgyzstan suddenly gets enraged, will trample on Uzbekistan, and even worse take advantage of the unrest in Uzbekistan, for example, and capture the Namangan region under the pretext of protecting the local Kyrgyz? According to the biased scribble of Dzherelievsky, Russia should fit in for Kyrgyzstan, despite the fact that this is aggression?

      Hold the thief the thief screams loudest. So here - the aggressor and killer in the person of Baku, who received Stepanakert from the Armenians in tinsel, yells to the whole world about the "aggression of Armenia", repeating the mantra "1 million refugees," 20% of the territory "and about the defloration" of territorial integrity of Az.R. "

      And Semyon Arkadievich Bagdasarov is a serious specialist in the field of Central Asia and the Middle East, who has gratitude from V.V. Putin. And you call him "Semik".
      Ugly.
      1. Ramzay121
        Ramzay121 30 March 2018 10: 54
        +3
        “And Semen Arkadievich Baghdasarov is a serious specialist in the field of Central Asia and the Middle East, who has gratitude from V.V. Putin. And you call him Semik.”
        Such a serious expert that there is nowhere else to go.
        Therefore, you are in such a state that you have such experts))
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    1. AID.S
      AID.S 28 March 2018 22: 37
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      Quote: Trk-azr-fker
      Someone has imperial ambitions above Mount Everest.

      Rather, imperial traditions. Ambitions are those who consider themselves special and capable of great things. Is there anything to back up?
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        1. mariusdeayeraleone
          mariusdeayeraleone 29 March 2018 18: 18
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          Where do you turn away from them? Do you think you'll ever see Europe next?
        2. AID.S
          AID.S 29 March 2018 18: 53
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          Quote: Trk-azr-fker
          As if you (Russians) are modest, quiet huh? Have you seen yours abroad? You can’t find arrogant and arrogant tourists.

          Yes, Galustyan and Svetlakov are still scumbags.
          Quote: Trk-azr-fker
          And here you hang noodles on the ears. And in foreign policy, your diplomats are no better than your tourists.

          "Jupiter, you are angry" ..... however, it seems to be only Jupiter.
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    1. mariusdeayeraleone
      mariusdeayeraleone 28 March 2018 16: 34
      +4
      The strangest thing is we did not surrender Russia not in the 1st and not in the 2nd world!
      And you tell us about NATO. A live example, neutrality at the moment. And could
      1. Ramzay121
        Ramzay121 30 March 2018 10: 57
        +2
        "The strangest thing is we did not surrender Russia not in the 1st and not in the 2nd world!
        And you tell us about a NATO live example, maintaining neutrality at the moment. And you could "

        In fact, this is not the strangest thing, but the fact that in Russia this is still not understood. They have an amazing trait, to extend a hand of friendship to despicable traitors. Probably from here and the problems around
  30. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 28 March 2018 15: 16
    +3
    Quote: Trk-azr-fker
    Quote: Scorpio05
    Another full-time Turkish and Azeri-phobic Military Review. How many guys do you have? What is Semik Baghdasarov cloning you for?)) What did Azerbaijan do to you? And the land was taken from Azerbaijan, and people were expelled from the land, and ethnic cleansing was carried out and genocide and atrocities in Karabakh, including Khojaly. Karadagly, Agdaban, Mesheli and so on. committed. So anyway, Azerbaijan is an aggressor. Everything is upside down. It turns out well done Armenians - they piss on the flag of Russia, burn it, insult the Russian leadership with the last words. And in Azerbaijani for some reason))) Sources:
    http://de.euronews.com/2016/04/14/konflikt-um-ber
    g-karabach-anti-russische-demonstration-in-armeni
    en
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr2fvUXKPcY
    And they signed an agreement with the EU, and now they flirt with NATO and stimulate their zones in different ways))) But he is not an ally of Russia))) Borzopisets Jerilievsky said, but prompted Semik Baghdasarov. But no one asked Rossi to surrender to hoeni, and so Russia stands behind the aggression of Armenia, and who needs an ally or parasite and parasite. All of Armenia is dependent on Russia, unlike Azerbaijan .. ..
    But Azerbaijan is said to be an aggressor, dared to demand its territories back in Karabakh in order to accommodate a million refugees. This is blatant aggression according to Dzhelielievsky ...... And if tomorrow Kyrgyzstan suddenly riots into Uzbekistan and, even worse, takes advantage of the unrest in Uzbekistan, for example, and invades the Namangan region under the pretext of protecting the local Kyrgyz? Russia, according to biased scribble Jerilievsky should fit in for Kyrgyzstan, despite the fact that this is aggression?


    At least we all expressed Russia in person. Not like you. Pretend to be friends, but meanwhile, if Baku manages to grab Karabakh, there will be an instant turn to NATO, with the message of Russia to the opu. The Kremlin needs to be taught geopolitics in order to know who to be friends with.

    Are you a psychic? Do you guess on coffee grounds or do you see dreams?
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  32. Trk-azr-fker
    Trk-azr-fker 28 March 2018 16: 48
    +4
    Quote: mariusdeayeraleone
    The strangest thing is we did not surrender Russia not in the 1st and not in the 2nd world!
    And you tell us about NATO. A live example, neutrality at the moment. And could


    And not your tribesmen were preparing to attack the USSR from the south, in the event of the fall of Stalingrad, right? What bring down from sick to healthy?
    1. mariusdeayeraleone
      mariusdeayeraleone 29 March 2018 07: 07
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      Wow, that’s the answer. Who do you mean this?
  33. Trk-azr-fker
    Trk-azr-fker 28 March 2018 16: 58
    +1
    Quote: mariusdeayeraleone
    The cha hysteria has begun.


    Do you have PMS, huh?
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    1. Cheldon
      Cheldon 28 March 2018 18: 43
      +1
      Quote: Trk-azr-fker
      Shaman struck yours. General paratrooper, right? Fighting for Azerbaijan.

      And answer the second question -
      2. Thanks to whom was the Armenian ethnos preserved in the South Caucasus?
  35. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 28 March 2018 19: 15
    +4
    Quote: ButchCassidy
    Quote: Scorpio05
    Another full-time Turkish and Azeri-phobic Military Review. How many guys do you have? What is Semik Baghdasarov cloning you for?)) What did Azerbaijan do to you? And the Armenians (not without the help of Russia) took away the land from Azerbaijan, and drove people out of the land, and carried out ethnic cleansing and genocide and atrocities in Karabakh, including Khojaly. Karadagly, Agdaban, Mesheli and so on. committed. What do you want more ri Azerbaijan? So anyway, Azerbaijan is an aggressor. Everything is upside down. It turns out well done Armenians - they piss on the flag of Russia, burn it, insult the Russian leadership with the last words. And in Azerbaijani for some reason))) Sources: http://de.euronews.com/2016/04/14/konflikt-um-ber
    g-karabach-anti-russische-demonstration-in-armeni
    en
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr2fvUXKPcY
    And the Armenians signed a treaty with the EU, and now they flirt with NATO and stimulate their zones in different ways))) But he is not an ally of Russia))) Borzopisets Jerilievsky said, but suggested Semik Baghdasarov. And to hell with Russia he gave up so worthless, no one asked? And so Russia is behind the aggression of Armenia, and who needs an ally or parasite and parasite? All of Armenia is dependent on Russia, unlike Azerbaijan .. ..
    But Azerbaijan is said to be an aggressor, dared to demand its territories back in Karabakh in order to return a million refugees to their homes. This is blatant Azerbaijani aggression according to Dzherelievsky ... Azerbaijan should not demand its lands. So tell me right away, they say Russia gave Russia these lands to Armenia, because the Armenians so beautifully burn the flag of Russia and burn it, the Russian leadership is insulted The EU is entering, but they want to enter NATO, so that we Azerbaijanis also understand what to do in order to please Dzherelievsky. Well, the EU is so the EU is with NATO.
    And if tomorrow Kyrgyzstan suddenly gets enraged, will trample on Uzbekistan, and even worse take advantage of the unrest in Uzbekistan, for example, and capture the Namangan region under the pretext of protecting the local Kyrgyz? According to the biased scribble of Dzherelievsky, Russia should fit in for Kyrgyzstan, despite the fact that this is aggression?

    Hold the thief the thief screams loudest. So here - the aggressor and killer in the person of Baku, who received Stepanakert from the Armenians in tinsel, yells to the whole world about the "aggression of Armenia", repeating the mantra "1 million refugees," 20% of the territory "and about the defloration" of territorial integrity of Az.R. "

    And Semyon Arkadievich Bagdasarov is a serious specialist in the field of Central Asia and the Middle East, who has gratitude from V.V. Putin. And you call him "Semik".
    Ugly.

    Semik is diminutive in the Armenian tradition) Serzhik, Vovik, Stepik, Bobik, Gnome ... And of course it is ... Provocateur, gorlopan and dishwasher he is serious, with the mentality and vocabulary of a cab driver from the station, modestly loving for the whole Speak Russia ... (also according to the Armenian tradition, all Armenians, starting with Garnik with the Georgian flag)) love to speak for all of Russia, "we supposed Russia should ..." and so on. especially when it comes to Turkey. ... About aggression ... That's right. You Armenian should say so wink when they pile on you - this is aggression, genocide, massacre, deafening howl and stench for 100 years ... And when for the first time in thousands of years, the Armenians, these historical losers and professional mourners who have been killing the tears of more than 100 years from all over the world, managed to get a suitcase without a handle - Karabakh and our regions (it’s a pity to abandon, but they can’t digest, they’re too small)) is a victory, liberation, the "heroic Srepanakert" asma shouted in guts ... Well, you ... Armenian radio you are all mobile. Our general is right ... To summarize: in the throat you will have our lands, one way or another, like a bone ... and then it will come out. Pull it out. Not a little hat)
    1. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy 29 March 2018 12: 25
      +3
      Quote: Scorpio05
      Semik is diminutive in the Armenian tradition) Serzhik, Vovik, Stepik, Bobik, Gnome ... And of course it is ... Provocateur, gorlopan and dishwasher he is serious, with the mentality and vocabulary of a cab driver from the station, modestly loving for the whole Speak Russia ... (also according to the Armenian tradition, all Armenians, starting with Garnik with the Georgian flag)) love to speak for all of Russia, "we supposed Russia should ..." and so on. especially when it comes to Turkey. ... About aggression ... That's right. But you should say so when you are being attacked - it’s aggression, genocide, massacre, deafening howl and stench for 100 years ... And when for the first time in thousands of years the Armenians, these historical losers and professional mourners, have been killing the tears for more than 100 years around the world , managed to get a suitcase without a handle - Karabakh and our districts (it’s a pity to throw it, but they can’t digest it, they’re too small)) so it’s a victory, liberation, they ganged it on guts, “heroic Srepanakert” asma .... Well, you ... Armenian radio you are all mobile. Our general is right ... To summarize: in the throat you will have our lands, one way or another, like a bone ... and then it will come out. Pull it out. Not a little hat)

      Do not judge the world by yourself.

      The Armenians didn’t snatch anything in Karabakh, on the contrary, part of the territory is still controlled by Baku. They have been living for more than a thousand years, developing the region, many tourists come there, monasteries and mosques are being restored, roads are being built. People live a simple life for themselves. And they will live on. Because there is the NKRR Defense Army
  36. konstantin68
    konstantin68 28 March 2018 19: 18
    +1
    Quote: BecmepH
    Well, come on. Only to whom do you turn for help when Aliyev comes for his?

    Yes, the comrade seems to have nothing to do with the NKR. He has a completely different homeland. And he pees here for service / work. IMHO
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      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 28 March 2018 22: 28
        +5
        Quote: Buka001
        Therefore, when we begin cleaning soon in our territories

        That "on their own" and start ... even tomorrow morning yes
        Quote: Buka001
        The whole world knows very well that ...

        Most of the world just doesn't give a damn about everything that happens there.
        Quote: Buka001
        most frank Turkophobes, mediocrity and liars

        But to me that you, that the Turks - to one place. Purely cognitive interest - am I also a "Turkophobe"?
        Zadolbali Turkobots negative
      2. Dormidont
        Dormidont 28 March 2018 23: 20
        0
        Free will. But then without whining: "Russian, byrat, dump it!"
  37. Dormidont
    Dormidont 28 March 2018 23: 18
    0
    Let them not hope for the Turks, for Iran leads troops to Nakhichevan
  38. Buka001
    Buka001 29 March 2018 05: 16
    +2
    And why are you deleting my posts dear ???
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    1. garnik
      garnik 29 March 2018 09: 28
      +2
      William Gladstone, English statesman and writer:
      “Serving Armenia means serving civilization.”

      Try to find something about your people called Azerbaijanis. Alas, he was not there to write about him.
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  43. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 30 March 2018 02: 01
    +2
    Quote: garnik
    William Gladstone, English statesman and writer:
    “Serving Armenia means serving civilization.”

    Try to find something about your people called Azerbaijanis. Alas, he was not there to write about him.


    I’d better continue your pathos eulogy to the “greatness” of the Armenian people. Garnik, and your national character really does not change for centuries good
    Tacitus wrote that “the Armenians, with their two-faced behavior, invited the armed forces on one or the other side, according to the state of their lands, similarities of character, they are close to the Parthians, mixed with them by marriage, freedom is alien to them, they are most prone to slavery.” Tacitus Cornelius. Compositions. t. 2, St. Petersburg, 1887, s
    The Armenian poet Yeghishe Charents owns the words:
    "In us, hypocrisy appears in the womb."
    From a reference from the Prosecutor of the Echmiadzin Synod of the Armenian Gregorian Church A. Frenkel, which he presented to the Emperor of the Russian Empire in 1907, he worked as a prosecutor since 1892
    "... Covetousness, intrigue, oath-crimes, venality, obsequiousness seem to be the main national features of this tribe ... because the Armenian citizen does not have a homeland that he would be proud of, but only the bitter consciousness that his people are already 1300 years old - a slave and everyone hated parasite. "
    A.S. Griboedov wrote to Mazarevich in a report on September 11-13, 1819: “What a vile offspring these Armenians are. None of them wanted to know me, but they always whisper in our ears that we are their future patrons. A good protege. They sell us to the same Persians who are ready to crucify and cook them with any sauce. "
    The historian A. Anninsky wrote at the end of the XNUMXth century:
    “Due to the fact that nothing has survived that would testify to the former political power and importance of the culture of the ancient Armenians, it should be assumed that they did not possess either one or the other. Apparently they were always a small and wild tribe. They never possessed a complete political independence. The glaring poverty of the art of the Armenians is connected with this. We don’t have to talk about science at all. The Armenians have not created anything original over the entire period of their existence. "
  44. Bakht
    Bakht 30 March 2018 10: 49
    0
    Butchcassidy,
    As always, the substitution of concepts. You know about the subject of Heydar Studies. I did not even know that it exists. For your information, the Earth is not round. This I tell you a secret. But what is a geoid you do not understand. Great Armenia is the same myth as the Armenian Genocide and the history of the Armenian people. Learn serious historians. But to someone who uses British and Wikipedia nothing can be explained a priori.
  45. FLOOD
    FLOOD 30 March 2018 13: 04
    0
    Quote: garnik
    I have a refugee wife from Baku. Most of her relatives .da and mine still live in rented apartments, leaving apartments and private houses in Baku. I saw when they made breadcrumbs from bread and ate them with stew.
    So that this does not happen again, one must go to the world. Unfortunately opponents, calls for peace are identified with weakness.

    We will not have Peace!
  46. FLOOD
    FLOOD 30 March 2018 13: 05
    0
    Quote: garnik
    And Shushi was taken by Armenian terminators, Jabrail, Kubatly, Zangilan, Kelbajar,
    Fizuli, Agdam, winked
    The more you belittle the military prowess of the Armenians, the more you trample yours in the mud.

    you forgot about Khojaly ...
    1. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy 30 March 2018 15: 33
      +1
      Quote: TUFAN
      you forgot about Khojaly ...

      You forgot about Khojaly. If you want to be reminded, then ask A. Mutalibov and the late C. Mustafayev.
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    1. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy 30 March 2018 15: 36
      +1
      Quote: TUFAN
      Only schizophrenics see color dreams! Get well soon!

      And you remember why G. Aliyev in 1994 requested a truce and where at that time there were Armenian troops.
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