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The developer told about the capabilities of the Russian torpedo "Kit"

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Russian torpedo "Kit", launched from a submarine, can sink an aircraft carrier, reports RIA News a message from Gleb Tikhonov, head of the forward planning department of the Gidropribor concern


The developer told about the capabilities of the Russian torpedo "Kit"
Split mock-up of a torpedo 65-76, museum of Murmansk.

Our torpedo 65-76А caliber 650 mm is the most powerful in the world. No one has such analogues. One product can sink an aircraft carrier,
said Tikhonov on the channel "Star".

According to him, “there are no more torpedoes in the West than the 533 caliber.”

We had a torpedo 65-76, which is unique in its characteristics - in speed, in range and in stock of explosives. The kit includes three torpedoes and one hydroacoustic countermeasure device,
The representative of the concern added.

It is reported that the "anti-ship thermal long-range homing 650-mm torpedo 65-76А, also known as" Keith ", was created in the middle of 1980-s, adopted by the 1991 year." It is a modification of the torpedo 65-76, modified for use with submarines.

The torpedo's length is more than 11 m, the maximum travel speed is 50 knots, the maximum travel range is 100 km.

The closest analogue of the Russian "Kita" is the torpedo Mark-48, which is in service with the US Navy. At the same time, the Mark-48 has a smaller stroke range in 2.
Photos used:
http://wiki.wargaming.net/ru
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 25 March 2018 16: 04
    +5
    Well, what is a single product trough with airplanes ..? Maybe still with the "special unit" Ah, well, yes .. Are there three of them in one building?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 25 March 2018 16: 05
      +1
      What’s she having a ton of heavy duty explosives?
      1. Dr. David Livesey
        Dr. David Livesey 25 March 2018 21: 42
        +5
        A ton or two, it seems, is not interesting, all of these torpedoes were removed from service after the death of the Kursk.
        Question to the admins: when you start doubling the frank nonsense of illiterate cheers-patriots, 99,9% of these comrades who rave to shoot a product with a special unit on the trough with airplanes did not serve in the army, do not believe it: they did not have an NVP in school.
        1. bogart047
          bogart047 26 March 2018 09: 02
          0
          when censorship and the Internet are introduced for passports, feces and fingerprints.
          Learn to respond calmly, like you do not suffer from dementia?
    2. RASKAT
      RASKAT 25 March 2018 16: 07
      +10
      Well, it’s unlikely that it’s unlikely to sink with one torpedo anyway, although if it comes to such a war where we will sink aircraft carriers, I think they will do it with the Nuclear Warhead, they will not trifle.
      By the way, it all came from here.
    3. svp67
      svp67 25 March 2018 16: 12
      +7
      Quote: 210ox
      Well, what is one product trough with airplanes ..?

      It is this "thick torpedo" blamed for the death of the Kursk nuclear submarine ...
      1. allegro
        allegro 25 March 2018 16: 20
        +15
        Yes, not our torpedo is guilty of the death of Kursk
        1. rruvim
          rruvim 25 March 2018 16: 27
          +5
          Engineers from our city went to see the building after lifting. Wrote a strange report, the essence: "external impact."
          1. Andrey K
            Andrey K 25 March 2018 17: 04
            +9
            Quote: rruvim
            ... Engineers from our city went to see the building after raising it. They wrote a strange report, the essence: "external influence" ...

            If you dig deeper into the Internet, you can find, and now, as a keepsake, there has been a lot of talk about a mattress submarine that came to a port with damage to the cabin.
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 25 March 2018 17: 36
              +4
              Quote: Andrey K
              If you dig deeper into the Internet, you can find, and now, as a keepsake, there has been a lot of talk about a mattress submarine that came to a port with damage to the cabin.

              there were even photos in the port of this boat. Popov was convinced that the “Kursk” sank
              1. DimanC
                DimanC 25 March 2018 18: 13
                +2
                Here is a video on this subject
                https://youtu.be/WLmXPYKo0TU
              2. 210ox
                210ox 25 March 2018 18: 52
                +4
                Do you seriously believe that a boat can sink another large one by chopping? Even if it’s a blow to the bow?
                Quote: LSA57
                Quote: Andrey K
                If you dig deeper into the Internet, you can find, and now, as a keepsake, there has been a lot of talk about a mattress submarine that came to a port with damage to the cabin.

                there were even photos in the port of this boat. Popov was convinced that the “Kursk” sank
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 25 March 2018 20: 20
                  +2
                  Quote: 210ox
                  Do you seriously believe that a boat can sink another large one by chopping? Even if it’s a blow to the bow?

                  I can’t say anything. versions of the sea. all believable. in my comment I answered another comment. the only thing that is not in doubt is the explosion of a torpedo. but why this happened will be a mystery of about 50 years. In any case, we definitely won’t recognize it
            2. Alf
              Alf 25 March 2018 20: 17
              +1
              Quote: Andrey K
              mattress submarine with damage to the wheelhouse.

              SSN-691 "Mempfis".
        2. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 25 March 2018 18: 38
          +1
          Quote: alegro
          Yes, not our torpedo is guilty of the death of Kursk

          why are you lying?
      2. Simargl
        Simargl 26 March 2018 04: 52
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        It is this "thick torpedo" blamed for the death of the Kursk nuclear submarine ...

        This is the official version. There is also this:
    4. Mikado
      Mikado 25 March 2018 18: 23
      +6
      this torpedo is guided by a wake trail. Some American admiral said that after the aircraft carrier they would put a cruiser in the convoy so that it would take the attack. request
      The question is different. It was this torpedo that was accused of killing the Kursk. Then they were removed from service. It is strange that there is an article about her. For a long time before this, an uncontrollable Flurry was promoted. Strange .... Really want to take on arms again? wink
      1. water
        water 25 March 2018 19: 11
        +8
        It seems that this torpedo was blamed for the death of the Kursk in order to remove it from service at the insistent requests of American partners. No wonder they call her "killer of aircraft carriers". Firing tactics provide for the consistent launch of a series of torpedoes on the target. Therefore, what the American admiral said is unreasonable daydreaming. The first will destroy the cruiser, the second and third will get the aircraft carrier - something like this. And, in my deep conviction, the sluggishness and the Flurry torpedo-rocket prepared for launch from the torpedo launcher are to blame for the death of the Kursk.
        1. Mikado
          Mikado 25 March 2018 19: 21
          0
          And in my opinion, the sinking and the Flurry torpedo-rocket prepared for launch from the torpedo launcher are to blame for the death of the Kursk.

          nobody will tell us the truth anyway.
          1. water
            water 25 March 2018 20: 25
            +6
            They will say whether or not this is a matter of human qualities of the one who is obliged to speak. But the torpedo tube with a diameter of 533 millimeter, the same one that pulled out the inner cover and was stamped into the rear bulkhead of the compartment, eloquently says that a product with a diameter of 650 millimeters simply will not fit into it. And he says that if there was an explosion in him, he would break the pipe itself, and the lid would remain in place. Iron, it does not know how to lie, you only need to hear it.
        2. VALERIK_097
          VALERIK_097 25 March 2018 20: 35
          0
          Vladimir, slobber is to blame!
  2. NEXUS
    NEXUS 25 March 2018 16: 05
    +7
    And the fleets will still not see the same “Case” ... I’m silent about the “Predator” ..
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  4. sir_obs
    sir_obs 25 March 2018 16: 06
    +4
    "According to the official version, the explosion of a torpedo 65-76 PV, serial number 1336A, caused the death of the Kursk submarine K-2000 in 141 [2].

    After the death of the Kursk, the torpedo was withdrawn from service as unreliable (equipped with hydrogen peroxide), according to the conclusion of the investigation. By that time, the fleet had statistics on incidents involving these weapons. "

    A torpedo obviously doesn’t mean to sink one aircraft carrier, although during the war the Germans managed to do this with the British.
    The question is different, how to get into it at such a distance? 50 knots, this is 50 miles per hour, that is, in an hour the torpedo will practically reach its maximum range. AUG does not stand still, but maneuvers and it is impossible to predict where the target will be in an hour. The torpedo is not a missile; it cannot be adjusted on the march if it is on remote control.
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 25 March 2018 16: 21
      +3
      I agree. Although I do not agree with the version that the product 1336A self-exploded. I am sure that detonation came from external influences. Specifically from the Memphis boat. And the torpedo itself, 67-76 PV, is yesterday's century. And Tikhonov, alas, “drives” the blizzard, like General Borisov.
      1. Oden280
        Oden280 25 March 2018 17: 24
        0
        Torpedo 67-76A with homing system. To combat naval formations and convoys is quite normal.
        1. sir_obs
          sir_obs 25 March 2018 19: 37
          0
          Thick, continued 53-65k, an absolute analogue, only thicker and more authentic.
          To be guaranteed to get into the ship, the salvo distance should be 35-40 cable, no more. Otherwise, it will not be possible to accurately calculate the target's target and set the direction of the first turn to the dashboard. An adality of 100 km is needed if you only shoot towards the approximate location of a group target using sbch.
          1. 2534M
            2534M 25 March 2018 20: 05
            +4
            Quote: sir_obs
            To be guaranteed to get into the ship, the salvo distance should be 35-40 cable, no more.

            don't bullshit hurt her
            MUCH MUCH MORE
            1. sir_obs
              sir_obs 26 March 2018 01: 42
              0
              Nonsense flogged not trained, but the shooting was repeatedly, starting with the commander of the Eng and beyond.
              1. 2534M
                2534M 26 March 2018 13: 35
                +1
                Well, then you just signed for your own incompetence in terms of torpedo training
                for even according to diagrams 65-76 (which were UNDERSTANDED from the actual ones), these distances were several times greater than what you called

                well, 100-65 didn’t have any 76km
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 25 March 2018 17: 28
        +1
        And there is a version that Kursk was rammed by its own Shkval torpedo (training, without a warhead), which, due to a malfunction, described the circle and returned.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 25 March 2018 19: 40
          +3
          Quote: voyaka uh
          But there is a version that Kursk was rammed by its own Shkval torpedo (training, without a warhead), which, due to a malfunction, described the circle and

          There are a lot of versions and matches.


          The vessel in the bottom image is a USS Liberty torpedoed by the Israelis in 1967. As you can compare, the holes on both ships are identical: the edges are bent inwards, which shows the direction of the torpedo’s entrance
          Articles on the topic that Kursk was torpedoed in English:
          http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=31
          24 and
          http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?
          noframes; read = 71041 and
          http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/4676 и
          http://www.tribemagazine.com/board/showthread.php
          ? t = 98284
          - It is reported here that the fact of Kursk torpedoing was recognized, naturally, already by a former expert and designer on torpedoes of the British Navy, Maurice Stradling. It is interesting that when Stradling said in 2001 that the cause was a malfunction in the Russian torpedo, he was shown everywhere; but as soon as he announced the torpedo as an American torpedo and he even named the type of American torpedo: MK-48, he was kicked out from everywhere and stopped giving the floor.

          http://www.siberianlight.net/2005/05/10/kursk-tor
          pedoed-by-us-sub / - It also says that Clinton forgave Russia $ 12.5 billion in debt, that is, it actually paid for the rise and thereby indirectly recognized the fact of the American cause.
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 25 March 2018 20: 26
            +1
            Quote: APASUS
            There are a lot of versions and matches

            But no one can intelligently explain the edges of the round hole bent inwards from the starboard side in the area of ​​the bulkhead 1 and 2 compartments.

            therefore, you are all right. I think now it is a state secret. But years through 50 - everything will fall into place. And the secret will be revealed.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 25 March 2018 23: 02
              +4
              In my opinion, the edges are not bent inward, but cut out. Could divers carve out autogenous during rescue operations?
              1. APASUS
                APASUS 26 March 2018 18: 49
                0
                Quote: voyaka uh
                In my opinion, the edges are not bent inward, but cut out.

                Are you kidding to cut a round hole in dense rubber on a metal case? Are you kidding? It’s not bad that it revealed inconsistencies with the official version and Jean-Michelle Carré tried to figure it out
                For his theory, Jean-Michel Carré refers to the following elements:

                The presence in place of two US nuclear submarines USS Memphis and Toledo;
                The acceleration of Kursk after the first explosion, as if it were the object of attack;
                Liberation after the first explosion of underwater grenades by Russian ships on the outskirts of Kursk, as if for hunting a hypothetical enemy submarine;
                Russia's refusal of foreign aid to rise to Kursk in the hours after its flooding;
                Misleading statements about the state of the sea to justify a delay in assistance;
                The first statements by Russian military officials implying the United States;
                The statement [Who?] About the presence of fragments of the American torpedo Mk.48, found near Kursk;
                A circular hole in a fragment of Kursk, the so-called characteristic of a torpedo hole (caused by the entrance of an external object);
                The appearance, three days after the tragedy, of Toledo in the harbor of Hokonvern in Norway, an ejector of a distressed tarp buoy;
                The refusal of the US authorities to allow him to check non-Americans;
                Extraordinary visit to Moscow on August 17, 2000 by CIA Director George Tenet;
                The decision to leave the torpedo compartment at the bottom of the sea, and then destroy it, without investigating its study;
                Censorship of messages from the corpses of submariners (the secret part of the manuscript of the submariner Kolesnikov);
                The destruction of the remains of Kursk after its rescue and inspection, and a torpedo from the front remained under water;
                Cancellation of US debt of $ 10 billion. USA shortly after the accident and Russia's permission to receive a new loan;
                Rumor has it that a disastrous buoy from an American submarine will be restored, although this information has not been confirmed.
                Documentary explaining this thesis: Kursk, submarine in troubled waters 8 (CARRE Jean-Michel)
            2. 2534M
              2534M 26 March 2018 13: 37
              0
              technological cut
              what do you think - remains under SHZ with "Humanenko"
          2. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 25 March 2018 22: 58
            +1
            But do not torpedoes explode remotely near the side to destroy the side with a hydraulic shock?
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 25 March 2018 20: 42
          +3
          Quote: voyaka uh
          And there is a version that Kursk was rammed by its own Shkval torpedo (training, without a warhead), which, due to a malfunction, described the circle and returned.

          Alexey! But nothing that the VA-111 is a vulgar "upright" with a frantic speed and a vigorous head !? repeat
        3. abc_alex
          abc_alex 25 March 2018 23: 13
          +2
          This is an idiotic version. If the Flurry could turn 360 degrees after launch, it would be an unrealistic wunderwaffe. Unfortunately, Flurry walks purely in a straight line.
      3. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 25 March 2018 18: 42
        +4
        Quote: rruvim
        I am sure that detonation came from external influences.

        there was self-detonation and no one drowned Kursk, read all the tales about Memphis to children and the afflicted
    2. rruvim
      rruvim 25 March 2018 16: 34
      0
      The fact of the matter is that she is not remotely controlled. Yesterday is a damn thing.
    3. Oden280
      Oden280 25 March 2018 17: 22
      +2
      It is necessary to read carefully. The torpedo has homing along the wake trail, a non-contact fuse and the ability to install a nuclear warhead. Yes, and with a conventional warhead, undermining under the bottom is guaranteed to break the kilbalka.
    4. Dead duck
      Dead duck 25 March 2018 17: 55
      +3
      Quote: sir_obs
      The torpedo is not a missile; it cannot be adjusted on the march if it is on remote control.

      on the wake trail can be induced ...
      but you don’t tell anyone! yes
    5. Pathos
      Pathos 25 March 2018 18: 03
      +1
      this one is not telecontrolled, follows the wake stream and can tear off the stern floor somewhere infa slipped on this product
    6. Piramidon
      Piramidon 25 March 2018 20: 09
      +1
      Quote: sir_obs
      how at such a distance to get into it at all?

      And the fact that the torpedo does not play a homing role? Principle - "Shot and Forgot"
    7. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 25 March 2018 22: 38
      +7
      Quote: sir_obs
      After the death of the Kursk, the torpedo was withdrawn from service as unreliable

      2010 - torpedo 65-76А - in service ...
      Quote: sir_obs
      A torpedo obviously doesn’t mean to sink one aircraft carrier, although during the war the Germans managed to do this with the British.
      Such a torpedo explodes under the propeller-steering group of the NK. The AVM has an 4 screw ... It is possible that the 2 will fail. Airborne - will remain ... Tiller compartment - will flood., Well, also adjacent rooms too. But to one torpedo ... - it's fantastic! EM, or even CR, may well sink, but obviously not AVM.
      About the sinking of the German U-81 submarine (Dr. F. Guggenberger) 1-th torpedo AB "Ark Royal". After torpedoing, the aircraft carrier remained afloat, although the crew left it. The emergency crew landed aboard and towed the tugboat that came from Gibraltar to the 2, and then decided to separate the pairs in the boilers ... As a result, the fire that destroyed the ship! So, talking about "one dashboard" is not entirely correct.
      Quote: sir_obs
      how at such a distance to get into it at all? 50 knots, this is 50 miles per hour, that is, in an hour the torpedo will practically reach its maximum range. AUG does not stand still, but maneuvers and it is impossible to predict where the target will be in an hour.

      1. In fact, China's ultimate range is 100km. But this is a naval safety net.
      2. AUG has a general course ... And also a "side of movement" (in PUTS / ASBU - a board of the target ..) where the product is sent. When attacking an AUG, all 3 products are used, as a rule, with a fan, with a time delay ... Shooting goes to the OVMC. And there - with luck: whose wake will be the first to accept it - “he and slippers” ...
      Quote: sir_obs
      To be guaranteed to get into the ship, the salvo range should be 35-40 cable, not more. Otherwise, it will not be possible to accurately calculate the target's target and set the direction of the first turn to the dashboard.

      1. As for the distance, you obviously got excited ...
      2. EDCs are issued: a) PUTs, (ACS / CIUS), b) GAG, according to the SAC, c) according to measurements of the SAC, the navigator determines them in "melee". The SEC - all this "disgrace", called the KBR torpedo, is in charge ... But here the submarine subdivision - averages (or believes in one source), says the EDC.
      3. After that, the EDCs “into the electric” (data from Kts, Vts) are transmitted to the dashboard of the torpedo.
      Next - shooting ... stopwatch countdown, post-launch maneuvering ... And everyone is waiting for the report of g / a: the torpedo noises and the main target merged ...
      One thing to understand: nobody shoots with Dmax. and, as a rule, until HZ warrants are revealed ...
      Somehow it was once. As of now, I don’t know. Maybe in a cowboy way: offhand and with two hands at the same time ... bully
      1. 2534M
        2534M 26 March 2018 13: 41
        +2
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        2010 - torpedo 65-76А - in service ...

        de facto it can no longer be counted
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        1. In fact, China's ultimate range is 100km. But this is a naval safety net.

        50
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        And there - how lucky: whose wake will be her first to accept - "he and slippers" ...

        the trace multiplicity was even in the ancient 298
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        After that, the EDCs “into the electric” (data from Kts, Vts) are transmitted to the dashboard of the torpedo.

        no
        only set values ​​for the shot (corners of turns and distances + track margin)
        298 - mechanics
        298A - a digital machine based on the USET
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        One thing to understand: nobody shoots with Dmax. and, as a rule, until HZ warrants are revealed ...

        shoot
        and effectively
        there are very interesting ways - including how to “take” the main target even with a solid background of noise in the sector ...
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 26 March 2018 16: 40
          +1
          Quote: 2534M
          shoot and efficiently
          Shoot with D provided. This is about 0,8 D max. For if the target changes K and V, then the torpedo simply cannot catch it after its Dmakh. There was no talk of the multiplicity of the trace. There was an opus about slippers ... apparently not entirely logical. I repent. With the spindles, everything was clear (what values ​​were introduced), I thought that in the electric one - like on the Amsk 48.6 with a computer for solving torp. triangle with current data ...
          Thank you for the lesson. hi
          1. 2534M
            2534M 26 March 2018 16: 57
            0
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Shoot with D provided. This is approximately 0,8 D max.

            no
            and 298A is generally a special case - because SPECIAL firing methods (unsuitable for other torpedoes) came up and worked for her
            for example, when from the XXX boom when shooting at the “noise front” without separate direction finding and with asynchronous maneuvering of targets on the 30S zigzag (!!!), both “thick” come to the main target
  5. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 25 March 2018 16: 08
    0
    Is that inside Kursk that exploded?
    1. hrych
      hrych 25 March 2018 16: 15
      +10
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Is that inside Kursk that exploded?

      No, which Dakar smashed am
    2. Albert1988
      Albert1988 25 March 2018 16: 19
      0
      Yes, hell ... r now already knows what exploded there - ours say that they said there was an old torpedo, that they detonated when they tried to launch, in the West they say that it exploded on the contrary - a new experimental torpedo.
      So dark is the thing.
      1. rruvim
        rruvim 25 March 2018 16: 25
        +1
        Very bright. Even a Dagestan engineer died, along with this product ...
      2. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 25 March 2018 16: 41
        +7
        Quote: Albert1988
        Yes, hell ... r now already knows what exploded there - ours say that they said there was an old torpedo, that they detonated when they tried to launch, in the West they say that it exploded on the contrary - a new experimental torpedo.
        So dark is the thing.


        He served just at that time in Severomorsk. And then it was not open, but the version of the incident was voiced and carefully checked when loading this torpedo into the Kursk. Many people were interviewed, and there were witnesses that a torpedo was dropped during loading, which very likely led to a hidden leak of hydrogen peroxide. Well, then .......!
        1. 2534M
          2534M 25 March 2018 18: 33
          +4
          Quote: Major Yurik
          the torpedo was dropped during loading, which is very likely

          this is a TIRE - for a very simple reason - A FALLING TORPEDA will not be loaded by anyone and this is expressly prohibited
          but what could be - “pecking” - this is a particularity of 65-76 - a consequence of the presence of a free surface in the oxidizer tank, which is why the loading yoke must be installed very carefully (this is from the PERSONAL experience of their operation)
  6. Tusv
    Tusv 25 March 2018 16: 11
    +1
    West lo doesn't give up until he dances in in our club
    The guys from Nat. The size of our patience is not unlimited.
  7. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 25 March 2018 16: 16
    +5
    All the best for partners so that they do not suffer for a long time.
  8. Olfred
    Olfred 25 March 2018 16: 19
    0
    Yes, it's just some kind of holiday! Did not have time to move away from the "dagger" and "avant-garde", and here - on you! Keep it up! hi
    1. Don
      Don 25 March 2018 17: 29
      +3
      Quote: OlfRed
      Yes, it's just some kind of holiday! Did not have time to move away from the "dagger" and "avant-garde", and here - on you! Keep it up! hi

      Are you funny people that even smoke laughing
      1. Olfred
        Olfred 26 March 2018 00: 04
        0
        Well, if you ask, you probably know what exactly laughing hi
  9. Observer2014
    Observer2014 25 March 2018 16: 22
    +3
    Our torpedo 65-76А caliber 650 mm is the most powerful in the world. No one has such analogues. One product can sink an aircraft carrier,
    This is all clear. Is it armed? For after the death of the Kursk they seemed to be removed from the ships. I read it a long time ago. Now, who is in the know, enlighten. hi
    The ship catches up with this wake on a wake trail. The most powerful weapon.
    1. sir_obs
      sir_obs 25 March 2018 16: 42
      +2
      It’s just that you still need to get into the wake track and ask it the angle of the first turn in the direction of the ship, and you can do it from a relatively short distance
      1. Rader
        Rader 25 March 2018 19: 09
        0
        Quote: sir_obs
        It’s just that you still need to get into the wake track and ask it the angle of the first turn in the direction of the ship, and you can do it from a relatively short distance


        Regarding your remark, I agree, with the exception of
        Quote: sir_obs
        relatively short distance
        ... distance yet relatively large ate compared with similar 530mm products. Yes, the launch should be made from a distance obviously not from 50 km. But against large transport ships with a convoy of 1 destroyer, or even without it, it can turn out to be a very effective weapon.
  10. taiga2018
    taiga2018 25 March 2018 16: 30
    +1
    Now it’s clear why the United States accelerated the construction of new aircraft carriers ...
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 25 March 2018 16: 35
      +2
      taiga2018 (Makar)
      Now it’s clear why the United States accelerated the construction of new aircraft carriers ...
      What did you mean by that. What are the Americans trying to overtake us in the number of torpedoes by aircraft carriers !? good drinks I am for ! Let them rivet. laughing
      1. taiga2018
        taiga2018 25 March 2018 16: 50
        +1
        Quote: Observer2014
        What did you mean by this? What are the Americans trying to outrun us in terms of torpedo numbers by aircraft carriers

        that’s it! because it’s clear that we are in a better situation, even such a powerful economy as the American one, to build an aircraft carrier is a big burden than we can mount torpedoes, and at the same time constantly improving them ...
    2. Don
      Don 25 March 2018 17: 31
      +4
      blessed are those who believe lol
  11. rruvim
    rruvim 25 March 2018 16: 31
    +4
    Torpedo 65-76A is old, not unique, and generally lagged behind modern means. In general, it is at the level of West-80. No more.
    1. jjj
      jjj 25 March 2018 18: 13
      0
      But nothing is heard about the new in these measurements. Although, apparently, it is possible to enter with a small reactor
  12. Proton
    Proton 25 March 2018 16: 37
    +7
    laughing E my, where did the engineer get the ria news, if the torpedo is not with the nuclear part, even if you put 300 kg in the warhead, you won’t drown the aircraft carrier, yes, to disable.
    Who makes such news on VO? am
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 25 March 2018 17: 11
      +3
      Everything from the same place where this torpedo is - with a pantry that has no analogues in the world.
  13. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 25 March 2018 16: 59
    +3
    For 18 years of sludge, it has already been upgraded 5 times. A good product with good parameters will be buried only by the enemy of the people! We have returned a lot of products from the past 90s, which they tried hard to remove from service. Now, many mattresses yell that nothing has been created in the Russian Federation, all from the USSR! And the times of torpedoes launched as a preemptive blank are long gone. For a long time, since the days of the USSR, homing or course-corrected torpedoes have been in service. And if this Tikhonov gave the Old, then not for the sake of a thin whistle, but apparently, "The Whale is back!". This is for the mattress pad so that fewer smelly bubbles are allowed.
  14. mvg
    mvg 25 March 2018 17: 09
    +1
    What nonsense is being drawn. Not ashamed at all?
  15. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 25 March 2018 17: 11
    +2
    Well there is such a torpedo and good! Why lie about it on every corner ?, As always, there are no analogues in the world. At 100 km, the aircraft carrier also needs to be approached. Especially if funding for public defense was reduced from 50 tr. requested before 17, then, all these plans are just fiction.
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      1. Evgeniy667b
        Evgeniy667b 25 March 2018 18: 00
        +1
        Normal people, if they want to say something, they justify their words so that it is clear. And so, somehow indecent!
    2. dSK
      dSK 25 March 2018 19: 58
      0
      Quote: Evgeniy667b
      At 100 km, the aircraft carrier also needs to be approached

      And have time to leave whole after a volley. In the USSR, when there were few ICBMs, they developed a torpedo with nuclear weapons, for those technical capabilities it occupied 50% of the length of the submarine, then they abandoned this idea. ICBMs and "calibers" do not fly 100 km, the chance to survive after a volley is many times greater.
      All USSR worked for defense, this “backlog” and now saves.
  16. Vol4ara
    Vol4ara 25 March 2018 17: 20
    0
    With special. The warhead of his shot from a howitzer sank ...
  17. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 25 March 2018 17: 55
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    And there is a version that Kursk was rammed by its own Shkval torpedo (training, without a warhead), which, due to a malfunction, described the circle and returned.

    Flurry has a short range. There are parts of the torpedo from Kursk, they are twisted from the explosion, but do not have traces of the fire and internal explosion ...
  18. 2534M
    2534M 25 March 2018 18: 35
    +2
    it would be better if he said why on board the Kursk instead of the ANCIENT 65-76A there were no NEW DST torpedoes that WERE, but in warehouses (!!!)
  19. flicker
    flicker 25 March 2018 18: 56
    +1
    The developer told about the capabilities of the Russian torpedo "Kit"
    Good Whale, useful.
  20. Operator
    Operator 25 March 2018 19: 08
    0
    Torpedoes are FSEs; they have retained effectiveness only against civilian ships, since warships (surface and underwater) have long been equipped with torpedoes, which detonate a torpedo at a safe distance from the ship - like two fingers on asphalt.
    1. xtur
      xtur 26 March 2018 01: 25
      0
      »Equipped with torpedoes for a long time

      judging by Ming’s opinion, you ran ahead 20 years, now only the Russian Federation has more or less successful anti-torpedoes
      1. 2534M
        2534M 26 March 2018 13: 43
        0
        Quote: xtur
        judging by Ming’s opinion, you ran ahead 20 years, now only the Russian Federation has more or less successful anti-torpedoes

        I didn't say that
        "Tripwire" Americans begin (just starting) to install
        1. xtur
          xtur 26 March 2018 15: 34
          0
          > I didn't say that

          Mina once had a sane account on the site, I don’t even know whether to believe authorship or not

          > "Tripwires" Americans are starting (just beginning) to install

          I don’t know, I understood the article that way. you give a link to the article, most likely I read it somewhere on the BMP, I read it again, and again say that I understood from it. It will be funny if it turns out that I understand her again, too, like the first time
          1. 2534M
            2534M 26 March 2018 15: 37
            +1
            Quote: xtur
            Mina once had a sane account on the site

            blocked
            like 2534
            Quote: xtur
            I understood the article that way. you give a link to the article

            the meaning of the article was that formally inferior in terms of performance characteristics (which is not surprising - solid propellant rocket engine versus the most complicated MTC based TCU), our M50 is superior to Tripwire in the main - the probability of solving the problem
            1. xtur
              xtur 26 March 2018 15: 41
              0
              > our M15 surpasses the Tripwire in the main thing - the probability of solving the problem

              all that remains is to name some averaged figures for the probability of interception (yes, I understand that this depends very much on the conditions of the task, and it is very similar to the average temperature in the hospital, but in this case we can name a few model numbers) to find out how correctly I caught essence of the article
              1. 2534M
                2534M 26 March 2018 16: 58
                +1
                we have - "close to 1"
                they have "substantially less than 1"
                ;)
                1. xtur
                  xtur 27 March 2018 07: 58
                  0
                  > we have - "close to 1"
                  > they have - "significantly less than 1"

                  then I at least half understood the article correctly, this is already good
                  :-)
      2. 2534M
        2534M 27 March 2018 11: 49
        0
        Quote: xtur
        ran ahead for 20 years

        generally speaking - something like this happened in 1998, when our prototype AT models for the first time and with excellent results (despite very difficult conditions) worked in Feodosia in 1998.
        ... only then the next time it happened in ... 2013.
        for the topic was deliberately Sabotaged
        1. xtur
          xtur 27 March 2018 23: 26
          0
          > because the topic was deliberately SABOTATED

          if this was happening / was happening in the immediate circle of influence of the MO, then what was the general influence partners on the situation in the country - and how, under such conditions, could the country secretly overtake partners 20 years in a key aspect of civil and military technologies of the upcoming future - compact, mobile and powerful nuclear energy sources.
          I am a little familiar with this area, and I can imagine how much work and research is required for all this to become a reality - but you already have the position with which the question now comes down only to the required resources and time. AND to partners to this position a dozen or two years

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  22. Grigory_45
    Grigory_45 25 March 2018 19: 41
    +3
    Our 65-76A torpedo with a caliber of 650 millimeters is the most powerful in the world. No one has such analogues. One product can sink an aircraft carrier

    regular storytellers)) Well try, try, sink a ship of 100 thousand tons with one torpedo laughing . The Japanese, with their most powerful torpedoes of World War II and a smaller court, sometimes failed to drown
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 25 March 2018 23: 39
      +1
      It was necessary to add - "One such product, you can drown your own underwater cruiser."
  23. Sergey Rudov
    Sergey Rudov 25 March 2018 21: 18
    0
    This is if the escort of the aircraft carrier allows the submarine to approach the distance of the shot. The aircraft carriers never sail alone.
  24. Mengad
    Mengad 25 March 2018 23: 00
    0
    Is this the one that has been removed from service? Or am I confusing something?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 25 March 2018 23: 48
      +1
      This torpedo was removed from service after the death of Kursk because of it. And this developer to see the same.
  25. sashok1951.21
    sashok1951.21 26 March 2018 07: 30
    0
    Mood .... retsy, your place on TV at the show is mud .. men. And yet they know, and everywhere they visited.
  26. Anatoly R
    Anatoly R April 1 2018 13: 27
    0
    Simargl (Andrey) March 26, 2018 04:52

    This is a lousy photo. And I saw a high-quality photo, where you can clearly see the round round hole from the impact of an American torpedo (with a uranium tip). Metal is concave inside the boat. And as if everything is correct, after such a hole our torpedo detonated.
  27. Anatoly R
    Anatoly R April 1 2018 13: 39
    0
    Boa KAA (Alexander) March 25

    Boa KAA (Alexander) March 25

    Guys, don’t break your head. In the photo, the place really hit the American torpedo. Only there is a special nuance. This place was cut out after raising the boat as evidence that it was a breakdown from an American torpedo (no one would drag the boat to the laboratory).
  28. Anatoly R
    Anatoly R April 1 2018 13: 42
    0
    Quote: BoA KAA
    Quote: APASUS
    There are a lot of versions and matches

    But no one can intelligently explain the edges of the round hole bent inwards from the starboard side in the area of ​​the bulkhead 1 and 2 compartments.

    therefore, you are all right. I think now it is a state secret. But years through 50 - everything will fall into place. And the secret will be revealed.

    Guys, don’t break your head. In the photo, the place really hit the American torpedo. Only there is a special nuance. This place was cut out after raising the boat as evidence that it was a breakdown from an American torpedo (no one would drag the boat to the laboratory).
  29. Kyzmich
    Kyzmich April 13 2018 11: 20
    0
    Quote: 2534M
    Cut a round hole in dense rubber on a metal case, with smooth edges, are you kidding?

    First, where do you see the edges bent inwards?
    And the question is what to cut.
    And they cut with a high-pressure jet of water with an abrasive.
    If you've ever seen how such a cutter works, you have no questions.
    They cut off how much the drive of the bow horizontal rudders is clear, so that when lifting the rudders do not create interference.