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BBC: Skripal in a letter asked Putin for permission to return to Russia

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British Service "BBC" publishes material stating that the spy Scripal allegedly appealed to President Vladimir Putin for pardon and the possibility of returning to Russia. The BBC publishes such information with reference to school friend Sergei Skripal. The name is Vladimir Timoshkov.


TASS leads a translation of a fragment of a conversation with this person:
He wrote to Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin about pardoning him to the end and allowing him to return to Russia, because there is his mother, brother and relatives in general. He generally regretted what had happened, about his role as a "double agent."


BBC: Skripal in a letter asked Putin for permission to return to Russia


This material, published by the British media themselves, delivers an informational blow to the accusations against Russia. What was the point of Russia to carry out an attempt at Skrypal if he himself asked for the opportunity to return to the Russian Federation. At the same time, an additional possible motive is revealed for British special services, who could not have been unaware of Skripal’s letter, if it was. Skripal “knew too much” to “let go” in the Russian Federation.
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  1. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 24 March 2018 11: 18
    +24
    Berezovsky asked from hell ..? lol

    We have no forgiveness and will not be for traitors .. soldier

    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 24 March 2018 11: 28
      +20
      BBC: Skripal in a letter asked Putin for permission to return to Russia

      One thing is not clear: did the letter reach Putin or not? If it does, then why is our president silent? And if this letter was and it did not reach the addressee, then it was precisely for this that Skripal was poisoned! And his daughter was poisoned because she was the one who could deliver this letter to Russia.
      1. karish
        karish 24 March 2018 11: 32
        +12
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        One thing is not clear: did the letter reach Putin or not? If it does, then why is our president silent?

        yes no one is silent
        Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov denied reports that the former GRU colonel Sergei Skripal asked Vladimir Putin for permission to return to Russia. “No. It’s not,” said Peskov.
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 24 March 2018 11: 36
          +20
          Quote: karish
          yes no one is silent
          Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov denied reports that former GRU Colonel Sergey Skripal asked Vladimir Putin for permission to return to Russia. “No. It’s not,” said Peskov.

          We, knowing Putin, can assume that our president is specifically hiding the news of receiving a letter in order to give the “bird” —that is, Teresa May, to get bogged down deeper with her supporters. Unless of course this letter really exists.
          1. cniza
            cniza 24 March 2018 11: 40
            +9
            Now the whole EU is climbing into this loop, or rather, the United States is shoving them there.
            1. okko077
              okko077 24 March 2018 19: 19
              0
              There was a very vague version of the drug overdose and the manufacture of the Skrypal at home ... A police officer was injured during a search of the apartment ... and there was a seizure of the latter ... this information is carefully hidden and there will never be samples for research ....
              1. Shurik70
                Shurik70 24 March 2018 21: 28
                0
                What nonsense they will not write ...
                Russians may in some cases have mercy on the enemy. Traitor never pardoned.
                Skripal knew that. Letter to Putin - Fiction of journalists
          2. karish
            karish 24 March 2018 11: 40
            +9
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            We, knowing Putin, we can assume that our president is specially hiding the news of receiving a letter in order to give a "bird" - that is, Theresa May, get bogged down deeper with her supporters.

            Well, of course, all around there are solid FUCKS and a letter laughing , GDP was delivered personally to hands, by pigeon mail personally from Skripal.
            The most interesting thing is that the BBC reads about this, and May doesn’t have any courses at all.
            belay - in my opinion only you can believe in it.
            By the way, the yen’s question (according to Putin’s knowledge) - if you know him so well - what changes will there be after the election? wink
            It became known that Vladimir Putin suggested that at least two former presidential rivals continue their political careers.

            Ksenia Sobchak and Pavel Grudinin received a similar proposal from the president, reports “Arguments of the Week”.

            Ksenia Sobchak is invited to become a member of the Federation Council according to the president’s quota or to head the not very successful region of the country to demonstrate her leadership capabilities.

            wink
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 24 March 2018 11: 54
              +10
              Quote: karish
              Well, of course, all around there were solid LOKHs and a letter, the GDP was delivered personally in hand, by pigeon mail personally from Skripal.

              "Notice, this is not what we said ..."
              If the British media so fanatically inflated and supported the topic “We will punish Russia in all directions!”, Then you will agree that the main point remains not the hypothetical possibility of receiving this letter by Putin, but that the British themselves understand that the Skripal’s case is too bad it smells. And, above all, for Britain itself ....
              Quote: karish
              The most interesting thing is that the BBC reads about this, and May doesn’t have any courses at all.
              - in my opinion only you can believe in it.

              Your skepticism exceeds the permissible level - are you smarter than all the clever men from MI6?
              1. karish
                karish 24 March 2018 12: 00
                +3
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                If the British media so fanatically inflated and supported the topic “We will punish Russia in all directions!”, Then you will agree that the main point remains not the hypothetical possibility of receiving this letter by Putin, but that the British themselves understand that the Skripal affair is too bad it smells.

                it smells bad, of course.
                It smells like a beginner.
                The use of chemical warfare agents on the territory of a sovereign state.
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                And, above all, for Britain itself ....

                And what?
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Your skepticism exceeds the permissible level - are you smarter than all the clever men from MI6?

                and on the topic specifically have something to say?
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 24 March 2018 12: 04
                  +12
                  Quote: karish
                  It smells like a beginner.
                  The use of chemical warfare agents on the territory of a sovereign state.

                  Yes, you did smell yourself? Like that policeman, in a memorable photo, with a smile?
                  Quote: karish
                  and on the topic specifically have something to say?

                  You would read ALL comments, except specific. Or are you like the Thais "Do not ask more than 2's questions - they fall into a stupor" ...
                  wassat
                  1. karish
                    karish 24 March 2018 12: 08
                    +2
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    Yes, you did smell yourself?

                    I do not, and you?
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    You would read ALL comments, except specific

                    you have 7500, so read everything straight?

                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    Or are you like the Thais "Do not ask more than 2 questions - they fall into a stupor" ...

                    Have you talked to the Thai people? What language?
                    1. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker 24 March 2018 12: 10
                      +11
                      Quote: karish
                      Have you talked to the Thai people? What language?

                      Well, certainly not going to ....
                      Believe me .... Or fly yourself .... And then, like Dragunsky's "Pochemuchka" ....
                      wassat
                      Quote: karish
                      you have irnkh 7500, so direct and read everything?

                      Do not be lazy ....
                      lol

                      Admit it - this is Photoshop: a couple in suits of the Highest protection, a couple more - in suits in a lower class, and a simple fireman from Aglitsa ....
                      laughing
                      1. karish
                        karish 24 March 2018 12: 16
                        +1
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Well, definitely not going to.

                        and on which? so that to understand how and to what extent you speak a language, besides the great and powerful
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Believe me .... Or fly by yourself ...

                        We must try to find an Israeli who has not visited Thailand
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        And then like Dragunsky’s “Pochemuchka”.

                        Because I was there, that's why I ask. or are you like
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Thais "Do not ask more than 2 questions - they fall into a stupor" ...


                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Do not be lazy ...

                        let the horse read, she has a big head.
                      2. karish
                        karish 24 March 2018 13: 09
                        +5
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Admit it - this is Photoshop: a couple in suits of the Highest protection, a couple more - in suits in a lower class, and a simple fireman from England ..

                        people are generally curious and believe that the fence in the form of a ribbon protects well, just from everything.
                        As recently as 3 years ago, during the breakdown of 160 kV busbar assemblies in a bus duct with SF6 gas, when the so-called * white dust * is formed - the product of gas decomposition is a very homogeneous substance.
                        So the team working on the opening and cleaning of the pipe with current leads was in exactly that kind of protection - coveralls, insulated breathing apparatus, special gloves and shoes.
                        The place was fenced in the same way - a stretched tape.
                        At the same time, having arrived there for an inspection, I was fucked up when I saw the electricians standing in the same way (working not far away and rushing to see). Yes, even without respirators, smokers and with staring eyes, the watcher on ghosts walking in 7-8 meters from them.
                        request
                        from w.
                    2. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 24 March 2018 14: 28
                      +8
                      Quote: karish
                      The most interesting thing is that the BBC reads about this, and May doesn’t have any courses at all.
                      - in my opinion only you can believe in it.
                      and on the topic specifically have something to say?
                      Of course have!
                      1. Theresa May, for sure, herself - personally (!) - is a co-participant in organizing the provocation of Britain against the Russian Federation in the case of poisoning the Skripals allegedly from Russia. Read the findings of Russian political experts and chemical analysts on this issue.
                      2. They creaked, if they were really poisoned at all, then they were poisoned solely by British services.
                      Moreover, this is even without considering whether Skripal wrote a penitent letter to Putin asking him to return to Russia or not! If he wrote, then this only additionally convicts Britain of lying to Russia.
                      3. At the same time, May is personally possible and then will need to be accused of unleashing her TMV, if it takes place. That is what May has already entered the history of the beginning of the 21 century. And then she can be considered a war criminal.

                      And you, Alexander. you defend May and Britain so objectively that you might think that she is your personal relative.
                      1. karish
                        karish 24 March 2018 15: 03
                        +2
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        1. Theresa May, for sure, herself - personally (!) - is a co-participant in organizing the provocation of Britain against the Russian Federation in the case of poisoning the Skripals allegedly from Russia. Hread the conclusions of Russian political experts and chemical analysts on this issue

                        Of course I read. laughing

                        Quote: Tatiana
                        They creaked, if they were really poisoned at all, then they were poisoned solely by British services.

                        of course
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Moreover, this is even without considering whether Skripal wrote a penitent letter to Putin asking him to return to Russia or not! If he wrote, then this only additionally convicts Britain of lying to Russia.

                        uniquely laughing
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        3. At the same time, May is personally possible and then will need to be accused of unleashing her TMV, if it takes place. That is what May has already entered the history of the beginning of the 21 century. And then she can be considered a war criminal.

                        naturlih
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        And you, Alexander. you defend May and Britain so objectively that you might think that she is your personal relative.

                        belay
                        thoughtfully good
                      2. Baloo
                        Baloo 24 March 2018 17: 09
                        +6
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Moreover, this is even without considering whether Skripal wrote a penitent letter to Putin asking him to return to Russia or not! If he wrote, then this only additionally convicts Britain of lying to Russia.

                        Berezovsky wrote a fact, they did not officially deny it, but did not comment.
                        Litvinenko allegedly wrote and wanted to return after Berezovsky cut the content. According to unconfirmed voiced rumors, he proposed a dossier to the Russian diaspora in London. Among the versions of poisoning is a response to blackmail by some comrades from Israel.
                        Whether Skripal wrote, you can believe it or not, until the screen of the original is published. It was simply used as waste material like Politkovskaya and Litvinenko before the trip of GDP on gas contracts to Europe. Skripals were poisoned before the election with an eye to the complete isolation of Russia and before the World Cup. The goal is to declare Russia a state as a terrorist, leveling the results of the fight against terrorists in Syria and not only. Anaconda's plan has not been canceled.
                    3. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 24 March 2018 16: 21
                      +3
                      karish (Alexander) 15: 03 ↑ ↓
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      1. Theresa May, for sure, herself - personally (!) - is a co-participant in organizing the provocation of Britain against the Russian Federation in the case of poisoning the Skripals allegedly from Russia. Read the findings of Russian political experts and chemical analysts on this issue.
                      Of course I read. laughing

                      And what is funny to you in them? Why, from the OBJECTIVE conclusions of specialist chemists and Russian political analysts, in the sense, NOTHING has come to you? And do you take the provocative side against Russia in the Skripals case? (Put Litvinenko aside altogether. He is here, like a fifth wheel in a cart!)
                      I am far from disappointed that Jews are historically smart people. Therefore, in your case, I can only guess 2 things - this:
                      1) or you have not read everything. Then I advise you to read the article "The developer of chemical weapons: If we get a sample of the poison, the version of London will completely fall apart"
                      т01:092018-03-21T01:09:27+03:00 https://www.kp.ru/daily/26808/3844061/
                      IN THE WORLD
                      SUBTITLE "The direct creator of gas told why all the current versions of the Salisbury poisoning are nonsense."
                      ANTON FOKIN;
                      2) either Israel and you personally, as an Israeli citizen, are interested in any false harassment of Russia by the collective West, weakening its global position - including the presence of the Russian Air Force in the BV in the SAR.
                      From here comes my MEDIATED hint to you that you are biased - logically sophisticated - protecting May, almost like your "relative", i.e. an ally.
                      1. Shahno
                        Shahno 24 March 2018 16: 37
                        0
                        Well, don’t exaggerate so, Tatyana (your articles clearly show that you are Tatyana ...), your second point is not entirely correct, Israel will not act so explicitly, and I don’t think that we give preference to at least one position or side . Well, of course, until then, someone is clearly not encroaching on our independence, and it does not seem that this is Russia. But everyone knows, and I’m afraid no one can be mistaken. And, horror, even the Jews.
                      2. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 24 March 2018 16: 52
                        0
                        Quote: Shahno
                        Well, don’t exaggerate so, Tatyana (your articles clearly show that you are Tatyana ...), your second point is not entirely correct, Israel will not act so explicitly, and I don’t think that we give preference to at least one position or side . Well, of course, until then, someone is clearly not encroaching on our independence, and it does not seem that this is Russia. But everyone knows, and I’m afraid no one can be mistaken. And, horror, even the Jews.

                        Pavel! As they say in Russia - your words, but to God’s ears! yes
                        We will see later how historically you were right now! hi
                      3. karish
                        karish 24 March 2018 17: 17
                        0
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        And what is funny to you in them? Why, from the OBJECTIVE conclusions of specialist chemists and Russian political analysts, in the sense, NOTHING has come to you?

                        of course it came laughing
                        Member of the State Duma Committee on Security Nikolay Kovalev believes Ukraine is involved in Skripal poisoning



                        Quote: Tatiana
                        1) or you have not read everything. Then I advise you to read the article "The developer of chemical weapons: If we get a sample of the poison, the version of London will completely fall apart"

                        You probably have not read the same
                        https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2018/03/15/717
                        4632 /
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        ) either Israel and you personally, as an Israeli citizen, are interested in any false baiting of Russia by the collective West, weakening its world position - including the presence of the Russian Air Force on BV in the SAR.

                        You have a very high opinion of my person.
                        Flattered.
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        From here comes my MEDIATED hint to you that you are biased - logically sophisticated - protecting May, almost like your "relative", i.e. an ally.

                        why almost how?
                        My relative, sister, cousin. wink
                    4. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 24 March 2018 20: 31
                      +1
                      karish (Alexander)
                      You probably have not read the same

                      Found what to read - Ukrainian Krivda !!! The site is Ukrainian !!! https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2018/03/15/717
                      4632 /
                      As if you don’t know what Ukraine is now!
                      You yourself, probably, a former resident from Ukraine? Hence, in concepts, and such are your logical results. In the investigation of the Skripals poisoning, you put the “cart” in front of the “horse”, as May does.
                      1. karish
                        karish 24 March 2018 20: 44
                        0
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Found what to read - Ukrainian Krivda !!! The site is Ukrainian !!! https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2018/03/15/717
                        4632 /
                        As if you don’t know what Ukraine is now!

                        In general, I know everything very well. maybe I ride a lot abroad.
                        Here in a week to Kiev I’m going for 7 days.
                        As for the falsehood - it’s not necessary - there are links to completely non-Ukrainian publications in almost every line
                        I could, by the way, imagine in the American language, how are you with the American language?
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        You yourself, probably, a former resident from Ukraine?

                        No, I never lived in Ukraine (my wife from Kiev) but met in Israel.

                        Quote: Tatiana
                        From here in concepts and such your logical results

                        From Leningrad, I - so what are you talking about wink
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        You put the cart before the horse

                        this is our St. Petersburg problem, we put the cart near the parebrika, and we put the horse in the front door.
                  2. Rakti-kali
                    Rakti-kali 24 March 2018 13: 26
                    +5
                    Quote: karish
                    It smells like a beginner.

                    Tell me, how did the British recognize the substance right on the day of poisoning? Did they have samples, or the formula for this substance?
                    Quote: karish
                    The use of chemical warfare agents on the territory of a sovereign state.

                    Just between the Laboratory of Defense Science and Technology (DSTL), which is an office that works for the British Ministry of Defense (in Porton Down) and a training ground for the use and counteraction of BWA (a bit north of Sosberi). Moreover, exactly during the “Toxic Blade” exercises, which worked out the issues of detection and counteraction, including chemical contamination, moreover, the exercises began 2 weeks before Skripal's poisoning.
                    1. karish
                      karish 24 March 2018 13: 30
                      0
                      Quote: Rakti-Kali
                      Tell me, how did the British recognize the substance right on the day of poisoning? Did they have samples, or the formula for this substance?

                      I don’t know, but do you know the level of development and the possibilities of the corresponding services in England?
                      Quote: Rakti-Kali
                      Just between the Laboratory of Defense Science and Technology (DSTL), which is an office that works for the British Ministry of Defense (in Porton Down) and a training ground for the use and counteraction of BWA (a bit north of Sosberi).

                      Actually, as far as I know, Skripal lived there.
                      Quote: Rakti-Kali
                      practiced issues of detection and counteraction, including chemical contamination, and the exercises began 2 weeks before Skripal's poisoning.

                      and?
                      1. Rakti-kali
                        Rakti-kali 24 March 2018 14: 14
                        +5
                        Quote: karish
                        I don’t know, but do you know the level of development and the possibilities of the corresponding services in England?

                        That is, you do not know on the basis of what information the decision was made that Skripal was poisoned precisely by the Russian “newcomer”.
                        This means that such a decision cannot be considered the only right one, because it is not confirmed by anything and can be just an unfounded accusation.
                        If the substance was identified, then either the British had the same substance, or the exact formula of the substance, as well as all the data on the kinetics of this substance in the body of the infected. This then calls into question statements by British officials about the Russian origin of the substance.
                        And so, for reference, the laboratory where the "newbie" was developed was not located on the territory of the RSFSR, after the collapse of the USSR, the laboratory was completely exported to the United States, along with all the samples and documentation. The substance A-232 "novice-5" itself was not accepted for arming and supplying in the USSR or the Russian Federation.
                        Quote: karish
                        Actually, as far as I know, Skripal lived there.

                        True, it’s very convenient for the British, and you don’t have to take poison far - there’s less chance to burn.
                        Quote: karish
                        and?

                        th, k, l, m, n ....
                        A very convenient match. But as shaved men started to lie, they say they sent the marines with specialist chemists to help in the fight against poisoning and infection ... but it turned out that they had been indulging in them for 3 weeks with chemical substances.
                    2. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker 24 March 2018 13: 33
                      +6
                      Quote: Rakti-Kali
                      Tell me, how did the British recognize the substance right on the day of poisoning?

                      So T. May herself went there and sniffed .... wassat
                      And so "tough" that immediately about the "highly-likely" screeched ... laughing
                      Quote: Rakti-Kali
                      Moreover, exactly during the “Toxic Blade” exercises, which worked out the issues of detection and counteraction, including chemical contamination, moreover, the exercises began 2 weeks before Skripal's poisoning.

                      Most gracious! Is it possible to suspect the British "ice with the gentlemen" in any trick? laughing
                2. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 24 March 2018 12: 37
                  +12
                  Quote: karish
                  The use of chemical warfare agents in a sovereign state

                  And before that there was polonium. Do you really believe in this nonsense? It’s such nonsense in Hollywood films, and in life they kill much less effectively, but much more efficiently and simply. As small children, they believe in fairy tales.
                  1. karish
                    karish 24 March 2018 12: 51
                    +1
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    And before that there was polonium. Do you really believe in this nonsense?

                    This is nonsense (if you're talking about polonium) - the investigation is over, the perpetrators are identified.

                    Quote: Dart2027
                    It’s such nonsense in Hollywood films, and in life they kill much less effectively

                    here I am talking about that, in Hollywood they are super-spies without fear and reproach, and in life - these are just people with all their inherent flaws.

                    Quote: Dart2027
                    and in life they kill much less effectively, but much more efficiently and simply

                    of course, and therefore a huge number of deaths slip through and are not defined as murder - with the same Litvinenko.
                    The radioactivity test was carried out absolutely by accident and so late that I had to deactivate the floor of the hospital and treat half of the staff.
                    anyone in the brain could have realized that they would use such a substance.
                    Therefore, no checks were carried out, and this was the calculation.
                    But, alas, it didn’t fly, because not all


                    Quote: Dart2027
                    Like small children, they believe in fairy tales
                    1. Rakti-kali
                      Rakti-kali 24 March 2018 13: 42
                      +5
                      Quote: karish
                      This is nonsense (if you're talking about polonium) - the investigation is over, the perpetrators are identified.

                      Was Russia invited to participate in the investigation? Russia's arguments were accepted for consideration?
                      Quote: karish
                      of course, and therefore a huge number of deaths slip through and are not defined as murder - with the same Litvinenko.

                      This is nonsense! Rave! He was not rat poison poisoned! Polonium is a very dangerous substance that you can’t buy in a pharmacy, its use is unambiguously defined as intentional and malicious, and cannot be attributed to accidents. The use of such a substance is always purely demonstrative. If Litvinenko wanted to poison and do it secretly, then they would poison with something quickly decomposing and biological origin. The use of such a demonstrative substance clearly set itself the task of provocation and was beneficial ONLY to the USA and Britain.
                      Quote: karish
                      The radioactivity test was carried out absolutely by accident and so late

                      Well, yes, Litvinenko should have had no chance to survive, which is why no effective measures were taken to diagnose his treatment, otherwise a miracle and a martyr would not have taken place.
                      Quote: karish
                      had to deactivate the floor of the hospital and treat half of the staff

                      Do not exaggerate - there were no serious consequences for the staff and premises of the hospital.
                      Quote: karish
                      Therefore, no checks were carried out, and this was the calculation.

                      Well, yes, that is, Soviet ... that is, the Russian special services were not aware of the mechanism of polonium poisoning and did not assume that it would give symptoms of acute radiation sickness? Sorry, but you’re rubbish.
                      1. karish
                        karish 24 March 2018 14: 07
                        0
                        Quote: Rakti-Kali
                        Was Russia invited to participate in the investigation?

                        Yes
                        March 30, 2007 in the building of Scotland Yard, a conversation between Boris Berezovsky and Akhmed Zakayev with the investigator of the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation Alexander Otvodov, investigating the case of polonium poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko, took place. According to Berezovsky, most of the questions asked by Russian investigators concerned the business of Berezovsky, as well as the business of his friends and acquaintances; Questions directly related to the case were asked only at the end of the meeting. Berezovsky called the interrogation "a farce" and qualified him "as an attempt to hide the real criminals - Putin and Lugovoi and all those who participated in this crime." He also said: “I have arguments why Putin ordered this crime, why Lugovoi was a performer. These are facts, not arguments on the topic. I brought these arguments to the investigator of the Prosecutor General’s Office and said that I consider him also an accomplice in the crime. I handed over to the investigator the correspondence with the Russian military prosecutor’s office in 1998 and the correspondence of Litvinenko when he received the command to kill me. ”[36] A representative of the Prosecutor General’s Office of the Russian Federation said that all the questions asked by Berezovsky’s Russian investigators in London were directly related to the “Litvinenko case”, since “a number of versions are being investigated, including with the business Litvinenko was engaged in”


                        Quote: Rakti-Kali
                        Russia's arguments were accepted for consideration?

                        when the Russian Federation realized that there was nowhere to go and that the Hamburg prosecutor’s office that Scotland Yard had collected enough evidence
                        The Prosecutor General’s Office of the Russian Federation refused the British Ministry of Internal Affairs to satisfy the request for extradition of Lugovoi, referring to Article 61 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation and accused Scotland Yard of a lack of evidence, bias and political bias of the criminal investigation [

                        Quote: Rakti-Kali
                        Polonium is a very dangerous substance that you can’t buy in a pharmacy; its use is unambiguously defined as intentional and malicious, and cannot be attributed to accidents.

                        here I am about that it was unequivocally established as the place of its production, and the entire radioactive trace of Lugovoi
                        Quote: Rakti-Kali
                        The use of such a substance is always purely demonstrative.

                        No, you try to determine it if you do not know what to look for.
                        Is each patient checked for the degree of radioactive infection?
                        Quote: Rakti-Kali
                        It was profitable ONLY the United States and Britain.

                        as well as Darth Werder
                        Quote: Rakti-Kali
                        Do not exaggerate - there were no serious consequences for the staff and premises of the hospital

                        so for info
                        It became clear why radiation poisoning could not be found in the hospital. Polonium 210 is characterized by strong alpha radiation, but it hardly emits gamma particles at all. That's why the Geiger counter in the hospital showed nothing. Geiger counters determine only gamma radiation, but it really was not.

                        One of the most prominent experts in particle physics, Professor Ian Chipsy explains that polonium-210 is a very strong emitter of alpha particles. It emits a large amount of energy, but only in a limited space, since alpha particles are easily blocked, for example, with paper or leather.

                        Quote: Rakti-Kali
                        ..that is, the Russian special services were not aware of the mechanism of polonium poisoning and did not assume that it would give symptoms of acute radiation sickness? Excuse me, but you’re breaking rubbish.

                        read
                        http://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/ukraine_in_russian/2
                        015/07 / 150729_s_litvinenko_polonium_newsnight
                    2. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 24 March 2018 14: 31
                      +4
                      Quote: karish
                      This is nonsense (if you're talking about polonium) - the investigation is over, the perpetrators are identified.
                      And what was the court at which someone was tried?
                      Quote: karish
                      and in life - these are just people with all their inherent flaws
                      In life, such operations are planned by professionals, not directors.
                      Quote: karish
                      The radioactivity test was carried out absolutely by accident and so late that I had to deactivate the floor of the hospital and treat half of the staff.
                      There is such a well-known thing as an autopsy. So to determine the cause of death could in any case. Do you think that we don’t know about this?
                      Quote: karish
                      I have arguments why Putin ordered this crime, why Lugovoi was a performer. These are facts, not arguments on the topic.
                      Well, where are they? And how long did Berezovsky himself live there?
                      Quote: karish
                      when the Russian Federation realized that there was nowhere to go and that the Hamburg prosecutor’s office that Scotland Yard had collected enough evidence
                      And who said that enough? Scotland Yard?
                      Quote: karish
                      as well as Darth Werder
                      Well, and what was the benefit of Putin?
                      Quote: karish
                      http://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/ukraine_in_russian/2
                      015/07 / 150729_s_litvinenko_polonium_newsnight

                      Read:
                      Litvinenko’s father accused the son of a Soviet-American biologist Alex Goldfarb of poisoning https://www.gazeta.ru/social/2018/03/21/11690293.
                      shtml
                      Litvinenko’s father, hugging Lugovoi, named the name of the murderer of his son http://www.mk.ru/social/2018/03/20/otec-litvinenk
                      o-obnyav-lugovogo-nazval-imya-ubiycy-syna.html
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                  2. Ased
                    Ased 24 March 2018 14: 54
                    +3
                    It’s time to poison poison named “VVPutinPresidentRF” (so that Britons did not have to prove anything). And his passport to the crime scene (EVERYWHERE !!!) is not bad - it would not be bad.

                    Quote: Dart2027
                    Quote: karish
                    The use of chemical warfare agents in a sovereign state

                    And before that there was polonium. Do you really believe in this nonsense? It’s such nonsense in Hollywood films, and in life they kill much less effectively, but much more efficiently and simply. As small children, they believe in fairy tales.
                3. Horon
                  Horon 24 March 2018 14: 08
                  +5
                  it smells bad, of course.
                  It smells like a beginner.

                  Cool comment! Nerve gas of this level gives instant death in a very short time. And here it’s not a former spy, but some Mithridates, apparently constantly developing immunity to gas with his daughter, so after the poisoning they managed to survive until the ambulance arrived. Israel on this principle can also be accused of transferring chemical weapons to Syrian militants! Prove that it’s not your playful pens that provided terrorists with chemical warfare agents to fight Assad you hate, because you heal them and deliver weapons! Yes, and why should someone prove your guilty!
                4. Orionvit
                  Orionvit 24 March 2018 14: 13
                  +6
                  Quote: karish
                  It smells like a beginner.

                  It smells like a dead end. I read, I read your fierce debate, but I still do not understand. You gentlemen, comrades, are you really seriously discussing a frank stuffing in a case that is sewn not even with white threads, but with white ropes? You are discussing something, arguing about something, completely forgetting that the so-called "poisoning" of this Skripal is still not provided by the English side not a single evidence of anything, even the fact of poisoning itself.
                5. Baby sitter
                  Baby sitter 24 March 2018 23: 47
                  +1
                  All this business "Fool" smells. And according to your comments, you also understood this .....
            2. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 24 March 2018 11: 57
              +7
              Quote: karish
              By the way, the yen’s question (according to Putin’s knowledge) - if you know him so well - what changes will there be after the election?

              And what about our changes?
              1. karish
                karish 24 March 2018 12: 05
                +3
                Quote: SRC P-15
                Quote: karish
                By the way, the yen’s question (according to Putin’s knowledge) - if you know him so well - what changes will there be after the election?

                And what about our changes?

                as a citizen of Russia, I would like to know the opinion from the place, so to speak the voice of the people.
                I just think of buying an apartment in St. Petersburg (I go once or twice a year) and no matter what, suddenly you know what it is - which I don’t know?
                1. SOF
                  SOF 24 March 2018 12: 29
                  +14
                  Quote: karish
                  as a citizen of Russia

                  ... you are the same "citizen" as the ever-memorable Mr. Skripal.
                  In general, it is high time that this heresy with dual citizenship was released into the toilet bowl of history.
                  They got the "fellow citizens" ... the Russians are unfinished ...
                  1. karish
                    karish 24 March 2018 12: 31
                    +1
                    Quote: SOF
                    .you are the same "citizen" as the ever-memorable Mr. Skripal

                    and how are you.
                    wink
                    Quote: SOF
                    In general, it is high time that this heresy with dual citizenship was released into the toilet bowl of history.

                    and with a triple? laughing
                    1. Astoria
                      Astoria 24 March 2018 12: 47
                      +8
                      and with a triple?
                      - also a crest? good
                      1. karish
                        karish 24 March 2018 12: 53
                        +1
                        Quote: Astoria
                        and with a triple?
                        - also a crest? good

                        no, I would take Ukrainian - it would be 4th.
                2. Rakti-kali
                  Rakti-kali 24 March 2018 13: 45
                  +5
                  Quote: karish
                  I just think to buy an apartment in St. Petersburg

                  It’s not worth it, the bloody regime has already taken note of you and is just waiting for the opportunity to trap you with polonium or a novice. So it’s better to look for an apartment in London or Salisbury.
                  1. karish
                    karish 24 March 2018 13: 48
                    0
                    Quote: Rakti-Kali
                    It’s not worth it, the bloody regime has already taken note of you and is just waiting for the opportunity to trap you with polonium or a newcomer

                    I'm not so important person

                    Quote: Rakti-Kali
                    So it’s better to look for an apartment in London or Salisbury.

                    expensive there, Peter is cheaper.
            3. Astoria
              Astoria 24 March 2018 12: 45
              +7
              Well, of course, all around are solid suckers
              - well, why around, while only you drew laughing
            4. loginovich
              loginovich 24 March 2018 13: 03
              +1
              Everything secret becomes apparent.
            5. Piramidon
              Piramidon 24 March 2018 16: 03
              +3
              Quote: karish
              Ksenia Sobchak is invited to become a member of the Federation Council according to the president’s quota or to head the not very successful region of the country to demonstrate her leadership capabilities.

              To send her to Birobidzhan. Head the Jewish Autonomous Region. good
            6. Weyland
              Weyland 24 March 2018 18: 32
              0
              Quote: karish
              Ksenia Sobchak is invited to become a member of the Federation Council according to the president’s quota or to head the not very successful region of the country to demonstrate her leadership capabilities.

              Chic Putin set her up! laughing
            7. gurzuf
              gurzuf 24 March 2018 19: 36
              +1
              In the know that since 2014 the FSB has systematically poisoned Petro Poroshenko with a chemical warfare agent called ... "bruise"? tongue
          3. alexsipin
            alexsipin 24 March 2018 13: 21
            +1
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            We, knowing Putin, can assume that our president is specifically hiding the news of receiving a letter in order to give the “bird” —that is, Teresa May, to get bogged down deeper with her supporters. Unless of course this letter really exists.

            It turns out that Putin, in the words of his spokesman, judging by your message, is telling a lie? How can this be?
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          4. Cossack 471
            Cossack 471 25 March 2018 21: 21
            0
            Oh, this notorious HPP !!!
        2. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat 24 March 2018 12: 01
          +7
          Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov denied reports that former GRU Colonel Sergey Skripal asked Vladimir Putin for permission to return to Russia. “No. It’s not,” said Peskov.


          "There Peskov sits opposite, my spokesperson, he sometimes carries such a blizzard, I watch on TV and think: what is he talking about there? Who charged him with this?" "- ..... Putin. laughing
      2. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 24 March 2018 11: 37
        +4
        Quote: SRC P-15
        BBC: Skripal in a letter asked Putin for permission to return to Russia

        One thing is not clear: did the letter reach Putin or not? If it does, then why is our president silent? And if this letter was and it did not reach the addressee, then it was precisely for this that Skripal was poisoned! And his daughter could be poisoned because she was the one who could deliver this letter to Russia.

        Rather, it's a fake, and rather dumb. They left us with a bait to get confirmation of the existence of such a letter, and then inform that it was a fiction of the BBC and this confirms that Putin personally traped Skripaley. The BBC government agency will not fight against the British government.
        Plus, Skripal has already been pardoned, otherwise there would be no reason for his release from prison, and formally he had no restrictions on returning to Russia at any time.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 24 March 2018 11: 56
          +2
          Quote: Captain Pushkin
          Plus, Skripal has already been pardoned, otherwise there would be no reason for his release from prison, and formally he had no restrictions on returning to Russia at any time.

          So it was exchanged, therefore it is an agent of MI-6 and the way to Russia was ordered.
        2. karish
          karish 24 March 2018 12: 13
          +1
          Quote: Captain Pushkin
          Plus, Skripal has already been pardoned, otherwise there would be no reason for his release from prison

          he was exchanged
          Quote: Captain Pushkin
          and formally, he had no restrictions on returning to Russia at any time.

          formally - of course .. laughing
          1. Rakti-kali
            Rakti-kali 24 March 2018 13: 47
            +1
            Quote: karish
            he was exchanged

            Exactly - exchanged, not pardoned. An unauthorized visit to Russia would mean for him an arrest and continued serving of a sentence.
            1. karish
              karish 24 March 2018 13: 49
              0
              Quote: Rakti-Kali
              Quote: karish
              he was exchanged

              Exactly - exchanged, not pardoned. An unauthorized visit to Russia would mean for him an arrest and continued serving of a sentence.

              so I kind of like that.
            2. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 24 March 2018 20: 17
              +1
              Read the law. Without an amnesty or pardon, a court verdict, no one will be released outside the colony. You wrote smart fake.
          2. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 24 March 2018 15: 23
            +4
            Before being exchanged, they pardoned him. Learn the mathematical part. Without an amnesty or pardon, he would not have been released from the colony. tongue
            1. Rakti-kali
              Rakti-kali 24 March 2018 20: 55
              +2
              Quote: Okolotochny
              Before being exchanged, they pardoned him. Learn the mathematical part. Without an amnesty or pardon, he would not have been released from the colony.

              I agree, it was so - Skripal and 3 more people were pardoned before the exchange.
              1. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 24 March 2018 21: 46
                +2
                Repeat this to the fakeomet Karisha and Co. (Atalef which). We left for sausage, they don’t know about Russia except for SNN, but they are sitting at a computer with a smart look and are known as know-it-all multisigners. On any topic, without appeal will be issued. That's what Lavrov spoke of.
        3. Horon
          Horon 24 March 2018 14: 35
          +3
          Rather, it's a fake, and rather dumb.

          Most likely it is. Western media have long been using lies to chatter real information. Ask now in the West about the Georgian-Ossetian conflict of 2008, and they will answer that Russia attacked Georgia, and no one will remember that before that Georgia attacked the peacekeepers and began to level Tskhinval with the ground. This moment the Western media were silent at the beginning, and the flood immediately blamed Russia. They apply the same methodology now: the prosecution followed by a chatter, and the transition to complete nonsense in all media when refutations begin to appear. In fact, behind a curtain of complete nonsense, they hide the counterarguments of the spat on the side.
      3. siberalt
        siberalt 24 March 2018 12: 50
        +1
        Now the main thing is not facts, but a wire for the media to throw intrigue. What is important here is that a certain "witness" Timoshov appeared. And this is the head one for the Anglo-Saxon Russophobia. winked
      4. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 24 March 2018 12: 52
        +3
        Quote: SRC P-15
        BBC: Skripal in a letter asked Putin for permission to return to Russia

        One thing is not clear: did the letter reach Putin or not? If it does, then why is our president silent? And if this letter was and it did not reach the addressee, then it was precisely for this that Skripal was poisoned! And his daughter was poisoned because she was the one who could deliver this letter to Russia.
        The story is generally muddy. Skripal and his daughter were never shown how it was with Litvinenko. Now here is such a screen in nete walks. Poisoned on March 4, and the daughter on March 7 went into social networks.
        1. karish
          karish 24 March 2018 12: 57
          0
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Quote: SRC P-15
          BBC: Skripal in a letter asked Putin for permission to return to Russia

          One thing is not clear: did the letter reach Putin or not? If it does, then why is our president silent? And if this letter was and it did not reach the addressee, then it was precisely for this that Skripal was poisoned! And his daughter was poisoned because she was the one who could deliver this letter to Russia.
          The story is generally muddy. Skripal and his daughter were never shown how it was with Litvinenko. Now here is such a screen in nete walks. Poisoned on March 4, and the daughter on March 7 went into social networks.

          strange, did she upon arrival in London have changed so much?
          somehow it looks a little like the top photo.
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Poisoned on March 4, and the daughter on March 7 went into social networks.

          Well, and if this is her page, do you think investigators will not go to your personal page? How do you think ?
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 24 March 2018 13: 04
            +4
            Quote: karish
            strange, did she upon arrival in London have changed so much?
            somehow it looks a little like the top photo.

            Aunts are generally inclined to post photos from a serene youth, or even use someone else's in a pretty way.
            Quote: karish
            Well, and if this is her page, do you think investigators will not go to your personal page? How do you think ?
            Of course they can, but why only three days after the hype arose? I’m also wondering who in the presented photo is reflected in the background in the mirror and photographs dad and daughter? Maybe this pretzel sprinkled something obscene into them in glasses?
            1. karish
              karish 24 March 2018 13: 46
              0
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Aunts are generally inclined to post photos from a serene youth, or even use someone else's in a pretty way.

              then where is the guarantee that this account is not fake?
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Of course they can, but why only three days after the hype arose?

              I don’t see any contradiction, I certainly understand that the investigation team was formed at that very second (in your opinion) and the fact that the Russians are in contact knows of course every Englishman and of course every Englishman speaks Russian.
              Therefore, 3 days is just a very short time.
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              I’m also wondering who in the presented photo is reflected in the background in the mirror and photographs dad and daughter?

              I don’t know, it can be a completely random person at all from the next table
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Maybe this pretzel sprinkled something obscene into them in glasses?

              maybe yes, maybe not.
              By the way, when was the photo taken? you know ? Me neither
      5. 210ox
        210ox 24 March 2018 13: 24
        +3
        In short, everything is clear, the Russian Post is to blame laughing
        Quote: SRC P-15
        BBC: Skripal in a letter asked Putin for permission to return to Russia

        One thing is not clear: did the letter reach Putin or not? If it does, then why is our president silent? And if this letter was and it did not reach the addressee, then it was precisely for this that Skripal was poisoned! And his daughter was poisoned because she was the one who could deliver this letter to Russia.
      6. Slovak
        Slovak 24 March 2018 16: 31
        +1
        Peskov hastened to refute. In vain. It was necessary to add oil, like- Britons threaten to tear yay if GDP allows to return to the Russian Federation
    2. bald
      bald 24 March 2018 11: 30
      +2
      Hi Vitaliy. If once betrayed, a situation arises - betray on a new, price issue. Spent material, sold the homeland and no matter what it is.
      1. Cutter
        Cutter 24 March 2018 11: 40
        +5
        He asked or not, but in a foreign land the bread is not sweet ... He had to think about his head before, and now wallow in a coma, thanks to his English curators. yes
        1. karish
          karish 24 March 2018 11: 45
          +2
          Quote: Cutter
          He asked or not, but in a foreign land, the bread is not sweet.

          Judging by the photographs in the article and the number of Russians and children of famous Russians living in London, your statement is debatable.
          Of course, London bread definitely loses to Belarusian wink - but as the saying goes
          --No bread alone - man is alive.
          1. Cutter
            Cutter 24 March 2018 11: 54
            +7
            Not by bread alone - man lives.

            That's just it, when relatives, friends remain in Russia (God forbid parents !, or their graves), and you can’t see them ... Skripal could come, if I’m not mistaken, he served his time, I’m talking more about others Kalugins, etc.
            And Belarusian bread is really very tasty! good
            1. ism_ek
              ism_ek 24 March 2018 12: 07
              +2
              Quote: Cutter
              Skripal could come, if I’m not mistaken, he served his

              Skripal framed many in the GRU, many broke his career. In recent years, he was a businessman and had no access to secrets. He found out secrets from former colleagues on booze in the bath, using his friends in the "dark." He asked for protection from them.
            2. karish
              karish 24 March 2018 13: 51
              0
              Quote: Cutter
              That's just it, when in Russia there remain relatives, friends (God forbid parents !, or their graves), and you cannot see them

              Why - friends, a son and a daughter regularly visited him.
              Quote: Cutter
              And Belarusian bread is really very tasty!

              Yes, and I'm talking about that.
              Of course, I did not try all of London, but what I ate loses unambiguously.
              1. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 25 March 2018 01: 07
                +2
                In Salisbury, try the bar. You'll like it lol
            3. Cossack 471
              Cossack 471 25 March 2018 21: 29
              0
              CUTTER Was in Minsk. I especially liked the "Narochansky" bread. I have never tried this in my life!
        2. Anti-Corr.
          Anti-Corr. 24 March 2018 11: 57
          +1
          Quote: Cutter
          He asked or not, but in a foreign land the bread is not sweet ... He had to think about his head before, and now wallow in a coma, thanks to his English curators.

          About 350 thousand of our fellow citizens live in Britain.
          1. Cutter
            Cutter 24 March 2018 12: 10
            +3
            About 350 thousand of our fellow citizens live in Britain.

            And all the former spies? Business, study, etc., but most importantly ... it’s not a shame to come home !!! Probably these 350 thousand permission from the President of the Russian Federation do not ask to come home.
    3. Heinrich ruppert
      Heinrich ruppert 24 March 2018 11: 54
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      We have no forgiveness and will not be for traitors ..

      A typical case of insane. If the English largest channel gave such information, and it is true. That this individual yells. Lying, we flunked him. With a head friend meehan. Or no brains at all.
      1. Anti-Corr.
        Anti-Corr. 24 March 2018 12: 28
        +3
        Quote: Heinrich Ruppert
        Lying, we flunked him. With a head friend meehan.

        'this is not his horse lol
    4. iouris
      iouris 24 March 2018 12: 42
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      We have no forgiveness and will not be for traitors ..

      To betray in time is to foresee.
    5. Rakti-kali
      Rakti-kali 24 March 2018 13: 13
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      We have no forgiveness and will not be for traitors ..

      That's just to execute their traitors Russia will be herself. The British have no rights to this, so the assassination of Berekhovsky, Litvinenko and others by the British secret services, the assassination attempt on Skripal are attacks on Russian citizens for which Britain must answer, and not the realization of the thesis "We have no forgiveness and never will be."
    6. svp67
      svp67 24 March 2018 13: 46
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      We have no forgiveness and will not be for traitors ..

      Oh come on ... somehow read the biography of a person with the wonderful name of Gil-Rodionov
  2. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 24 March 2018 11: 18
    +8
    Fiddler is not needed!
    1. dog breeder
      dog breeder 24 March 2018 11: 21
      +2
      Lord Sith (Sergey)
      Fiddler is not needed!

      Well yes! In this and poisoned!
  3. prior
    prior 24 March 2018 11: 20
    +2
    What a twist !
    So who betrayed whom and who poisoned whom? Who should blame anyone? And arrogant Saxons?
  4. Walking
    Walking 24 March 2018 11: 22
    0
    This is the cause of the poisoning.
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 24 March 2018 11: 23
    +3
    The British BBC Service publishes material

    Can you believe this fake sharaga? request It turns out that the impudent ones expose themselves?
    1. karish
      karish 24 March 2018 11: 26
      +3
      Quote: aszzz888
      The British BBC Service publishes material

      Can you believe this fake sharaga? request It turns out that the impudent ones expose themselves?

      I have a question for the author of the article, can I refer to the original?
      I googled here and found nothing.
      In addition
      Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov denied reports that former GRU Colonel Sergey Skripal asked Vladimir Putin for permission to return to Russia. “No. It’s not,” said Peskov..
    2. helmi8
      helmi8 24 March 2018 11: 46
      +2
      Quote: aszzz888
      Can you believe this fake sharaga?

      Well, the local people hawala and believes ... For them, and infa for thought. Everything is clear to us ...
  6. taiga2018
    taiga2018 24 March 2018 11: 26
    +1
    that’s all grown together, Berezovsky asked and he was immediately removed, they say there’s nothing from “free and civilized” England asking to go back to “barbaric” Russia ... Skripal was sent already on the beaten track, but they decided to use it in the end so that it worked out to the end Her Majesty’s allegiance ...
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 24 March 2018 15: 27
      +1
      For Yerezovsky, ask Karish from which Jews he removed (his own). Where did Berezovsky’s guard serve, who discovered him dead (or alive?)? In such offices, the former does not exist. MOSSAD jointly with the British.
  7. izya top
    izya top 24 March 2018 11: 27
    +11
    -------------------------------------------------
    -----------------------------
  8. bubalik
    bubalik 24 March 2018 11: 29
    +11
    material published by the British media themselves inflicts an information blow on allegations against Russia. What was the point of Russia to carry out an attempt


    Holmes, well, who is to blame for the poisoning of the Russian defector?
    - Russians.
    - Why not?
    - You see, Watson, if there were no Russians, then we would not have to poison anyone .. laughing
  9. Vlad Morozov
    Vlad Morozov 24 March 2018 11: 35
    +1
    He asked for permission, and Putin took and poisoned, like Berezovsky. Britons, do you really think that in Russia Beethoven is a dog ?! Amaze your ignorance!
    1. Sergey985
      Sergey985 24 March 2018 11: 46
      +2
      It seems to me that they consider Putin an omnipotent deity. He personally changes the test tubes for athletes, personally gives each hacker a task, he directed the operation to poison Skripal, a direct participant in any event of any significance in the world. It's time to open temples in Europe, inside the portrait of the President))))
  10. Yak28
    Yak28 24 March 2018 11: 44
    +9
    Skripal’s poisoning photo shows that Putin has nothing to do with
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 24 March 2018 11: 47
      +1
      Yak28 (Alexey)
      laughing good drinks wassat A-A-A-ha ha ha
    2. Dead duck
      Dead duck 24 March 2018 14: 03
      +4
      Quote: Yak28
      Skripal’s poisoning photo shows that Putin has nothing to do with

      why so cruel, then?! ...
      coffee almost dripped from my ears laughing
  11. Observer2014
    Observer2014 24 March 2018 11: 53
    0
    British BBC Service- They were everywhere. Everywhere they visited bully
  12. alex-cn
    alex-cn 24 March 2018 11: 54
    0
    CNN is not a source that can be unconditionally trusted. They write that the daughter regained consciousness, if she confirms, or the letter itself pops up ... then yes. But the bomb would be noble, would love to see how it would be "lowered on the brakes."
    1. Sergey985
      Sergey985 24 March 2018 12: 02
      0
      They announced in advance that as a result of poisoning, they were damaged by the mind. They will just declare them crazy.
      1. alex-cn
        alex-cn 24 March 2018 12: 26
        0
        “could” and “hurt” - two big differences, still need to be proved in court. And the English court is still an institution .. they can refuse.
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 24 March 2018 12: 09
    +3
    Just a joke with this Skripal and May's role in this scandal
  14. Gennady Berezhnov
    Gennady Berezhnov 24 March 2018 12: 11
    0
    Like Berezovsky - with which he signed his own death sentence!
  15. Forever so
    Forever so 24 March 2018 12: 28
    0
    There, like 9 poplars, they offer for disposal ?? maybe we will buy back and dispose of in London ??
  16. Masya masya
    Masya masya 24 March 2018 12: 29
    +3
    so that you wouldn’t be looked very badly here ... it’s better, you’ll be poisoned there ...
  17. mavrus
    mavrus 24 March 2018 12: 31
    0
    Quote: karish
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    If the British media so fanatically inflated and supported the topic “We will punish Russia in all directions!”, Then you will agree that the main point remains not the hypothetical possibility of receiving this letter by Putin, but that the British themselves understand that the Skripal affair is too bad it smells.

    it smells bad, of course.
    It smells like a beginner.
    The use of chemical warfare agents on the territory of a sovereign state.
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    And, above all, for Britain itself ....

    And what?
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    Your skepticism exceeds the permissible level - are you smarter than all the clever men from MI6?

    and on the topic specifically have something to say?

    The Britons are still glad to the Pindocs, and therefore they believe that they can also use military warfare agents and radioactive isotopes in any territory, and even on their own island
    1. karish
      karish 24 March 2018 12: 32
      +3
      Quote: mavrus
      The Britons are still the Pindocs

      and you Ukrainians and Poles .--- at least
      Quote: mavrus
      and therefore, they believe that they can also use military warfare agents, and radioactive isotopes in any territory, and even on their own island and even more so

      what is the depth of analytics.
      I want to applaud while standing !!! hi
  18. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 24 March 2018 12: 34
    0
    Quote: karish
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    We, knowing Putin, we can assume that our president is specially hiding the news of receiving a letter in order to give a "bird" - that is, Theresa May, get bogged down deeper with her supporters.

    Well, of course, all around there are solid FUCKS and a letter laughing , GDP was delivered personally to hands, by pigeon mail personally from Skripal.
    The most interesting thing is that the BBC reads about this, and May doesn’t have any courses at all.
    belay - in my opinion only you can believe in it.
    By the way, the yen’s question (according to Putin’s knowledge) - if you know him so well - what changes will there be after the election? wink
    It became known that Vladimir Putin suggested that at least two former presidential rivals continue their political careers.

    Ksenia Sobchak and Pavel Grudinin received a similar proposal from the president, reports “Arguments of the Week”.

    Ksenia Sobchak is invited to become a member of the Federation Council according to the president’s quota or to head the not very successful region of the country to demonstrate her leadership capabilities.

    wink

    Why do you need this?
  19. Prisoner
    Prisoner 24 March 2018 12: 34
    0
    Could dash off. Then Judas sensed that the owners were about to drain it.
  20. bmv04636
    bmv04636 24 March 2018 12: 37
    +2
    A talking mustache (which according to the statement of GDP sometimes carries such a blizzard) said that they did not receive letters. Looks like mi6 was removed from the box
  21. Click
    Click 24 March 2018 12: 38
    0
    Yes, the affairs of God are inscrutable No. poisoned so that the agent network did not pass! yes
    1. Rakti-kali
      Rakti-kali 24 March 2018 14: 29
      0
      Quote: Click
      Yes, the mysterious things the Lord poisoned, so that the agent network would not pass!

      Duc ... he seemed to have ... already passed, for which he was sitting. And he could not know about the British intelligence network. nothing. From the words "savsem" and "uasche".
  22. iouris
    iouris 24 March 2018 12: 49
    +1
    Shoot - yes. Here, of course, traitors are very fond of, but the officer himself must understand that there is a point of no return. To write such a letter and not shoot oneself is the bottom of a moral downfall. We assume that this information is not confirmed.
    1. karish
      karish 24 March 2018 13: 00
      0
      Quote: iouris
      . To write such a letter and not shoot yourself is the bottom of a moral decline

      of course betray the homeland (as an officer of the SVR) -this is, in your opinion, a smaller bottom of moral decline
      Well, if you want to shoot yourself, what for write a letter?
      1. iouris
        iouris 24 March 2018 13: 14
        0
        "I thought I had reached the bottom, but there was a knock from below."
        Personally, I have no idea which country Skripal considered his homeland "as an officer in the SVR." And you too. The fact is that he was born in Kiev.
        I do not claim that Skripal “wants to shoot himself,” and I believe that he did not write the letter.
        I generally believe that the Skripals could have been poisoned by the SBU or the British, or supranational structures that had a motive. However, I am not Merkel and I do not have evidence confirming the fact of poisoning.
  23. konstantin68
    konstantin68 24 March 2018 12: 52
    +1
    Quote: cniza
    Now the whole EU is climbing into this loop, or rather, the United States is shoving them there.

    What a loop there! You really don’t understand, or what? They said, as they need, with explanations and evidence they do not burden themselves and everyone else. They are already so stunned by the impunity of permissiveness that they "mold" a clear chernukha shamelessly and brazenly. It is as if you are stopped by the GAI officer with Rosguard and impudently throws a bag of foolishness in a luggage carrier or salon.
    How to break this situation?
  24. Astoria
    Astoria 24 March 2018 13: 00
    0
    karish,
    no, I would take Ukrainian - it would be 4th.
    would take or take back? wink
    And the third is probably Canada? No, but it's a common set. wink
  25. dgonni
    dgonni 24 March 2018 13: 03
    -1
    Stupid stuffing! If such an appeal were, then it would be published instantly. No need to do body gestures in places where they are transparent!
  26. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 24 March 2018 13: 06
    +1
    Versed two. The first - MI-5 freed the line in the payroll, while adding “pepper” to the thick stew of Russophobia, the second - Skripal, who was sick with boredom, drank a cool cocktail, and treated his daughter ... But something went wrong ...
  27. mavrus
    mavrus 24 March 2018 13: 11
    0
    Actually some kind of stupidity. What kind of pardon are we talking about if Putin signed it on July 9, 2010? "Are they on the BBC, don't they read newspapers?"
  28. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 24 March 2018 13: 27
    0
    That soaked Skripal ..

    The capsule with poison is shown in a circle during a shot by pricks ...
  29. Chaos
    Chaos 24 March 2018 13: 35
    0
    You see his mother and relatives in the homeland. The skin is corrupt. Dying is not a pity.
  30. Rakti-kali
    Rakti-kali 24 March 2018 14: 26
    0
    karish,
    Quote: karish
    people are generally curious and believe that the fence in the form of a ribbon protects well, just from everything.

    There is a nuance - an organophosphorus like VX or sarin or a novice do not care what people think - in the Tokyo subway, the police just poisoned the territory, they are not a “carcinogen” that will come out in the future, and poisoning from which can be obtained by walking a few meters from a person for chemical protection which has got a few milligrams of a substance, moreover, without even inhaling it, but just his fumes will get on the skin.
    So either firefighters are full of inadequate, or they are not cyborgs breathing, and their skin is impervious, or this is a statement.
    1. Wilderness
      Wilderness 24 March 2018 15: 04
      0
      Or a photograph was taken before entering the source of possible infection. Although perhaps taken simply from the archive.
  31. Rakti-kali
    Rakti-kali 24 March 2018 15: 15
    +1
    karish,
    Quote: karish
    Yes

    Not. Because the persons involved in the case located in Britain refused to provide information necessary for the investigation, and the British Ministry of Internal Affairs was refused to extradite these persons to the Russian Federation at the request of the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation.
    Quote: karish
    when the Russian Federation realized that there was nowhere to go and that the Hamburg prosecutor’s office that Scotland Yard had collected enough evidence

    For whom and for what is enough? The Russian investigation did not get the opportunity to work with the main defendants in the case. Interrogations in Britain in which Berezovsky and his accomplices laid a bolt on the Russian representatives of the investigation can just be called a farce. So the accusations of Scotland Yard in the lack of evidence, bias and political bias of the criminal investigation are just the place.
    Quote: karish
    here I am about that it was unequivocally established as the place of its production, and the entire radioactive trace of Lugovoi

    You are lying. Neither the British nor the Russian investigation was able to provide clear evidence of the origin of the substance. But if you look at cui prodest, it turns out that for Russia, the murder of Litvinenko was untimely, pointless and extremely burdensome politically, but it was extremely beneficial for Berezovsky, who by removing Litvinenko cut off his connection with many very unseemly deeds and for the Russophobic British government, which provided them with the possibility of further media pressure and demonization of the Russian Federation.
    Quote: karish
    No, you try to determine it if you do not know what to look for.
    Is each patient checked for the degree of radioactive infection?

    Symptoms of radiation sickness are very specific and pronounced - according to the general symptoms and blood analysis, both poisoning and radiation damage can be diagnosed in the affected person, at least with the amount of the substance that was reported to have entered Litvinenko’s body.
    Quote: karish
    as well as Darth Werder

    Do not foolishly.
    Quote: karish
    It became clear why radiation poisoning could not be found in the hospital. Polonium 210 is characterized by strong alpha radiation, but it hardly emits gamma particles at all.

    And sorry, what? Not even the most modern dosimeters already had a separate sensor for detecting alpha radiation. If the hospital has an X-ray machine and, especially, equipment for radiation diagnosis and treatment of cancer, then there is a radiological department, which also has medical staff - specialists in working with sources of ionizing radiation and there are devices for monitoring the radiation situation.
    Quote: karish
    read
    http://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/ ukraine_in_russian / 2
    015/07 / 150729_s_litvinenko_polonium_newsnight

    404 - Page not found
    Yak your derzhava - such and country.
    1. karish
      karish 24 March 2018 15: 28
      0
      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      Not. Because the persons involved in the case located in Britain refused to provide information necessary for the investigation, and the British Ministry of Internal Affairs was refused to extradite these persons to the Russian Federation at the request of the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation.

      A representative of the Prosecutor General’s Office came to Scotland Yard and took evidence about extradition
      The process of testifying does not provide for extradition, especially if a criminal case was instituted (like a crime) in England
      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      For whom and for what is enough? The Russian investigation did not get the opportunity to work with the main defendants in the case. Interrogations in Britain in which Berezovsky and his accomplices laid a bolt on the Russian representatives of the investigation can just be called a farce.

      or call it a farce - when it’s uncomfortable and nothing to say
      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      You are lying. Neither the British nor the Russian investigation was able to provide clear evidence of the origin of the substance.

      A rare radioactive substance that was used to poison former FSB officer Alexander Litvinenko in London could only be obtained in Russia. Such an opinion was expressed by an honorary professor at the University of Sussex, the theoretical physicist Norman Dombey, as part of an investigation into the circumstances of the murder, whose words are quoted by The Guardian. He claims that polonium was produced at the Avangard closed enterprise in the city of Sarov in the Nizhny Novgorod Region. All other countries stopped producing polonium in the 1970s.

      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      Symptoms of radiation sickness are very specific and pronounced - according to the general symptoms and blood analysis, both poisoning and radiation damage can be diagnosed in the affected person, at least with the amount of the substance that was reported to have entered Litvinenko’s body.

      they are not specific, dozens of diseases have similar symptoms.
      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      Not even the most modern dosimeters already had a separate sensor for detecting alpha radiation

      sure ?
      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      experts in working with sources of ionizing radiation and there are devices for monitoring the radiation situation

      it is strange then why they determined alpha radiation only after 3 weeks
      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      404 - Page not found
      Yak your derzhava - such and country.

      Well, this is blocked for you, this is an article of the Air Force.
      http://www.bbc.com/russian/international/2015/07/
      150728_litvinenko_polonium_newsnight
      1. Cossack 471
        Cossack 471 25 March 2018 21: 41
        0
        I personally saw on TV how Lugovoi’s “poisoner” in the studio shook hands with his father Litvinenko and he said that he blames the CIA poisoning
    2. Falcon5555
      Falcon5555 24 March 2018 16: 08
      0
      Do not register alpha radiation at the hospital.
  32. Dart2027
    Dart2027 24 March 2018 15: 47
    0
    Quote: karish
    Lugovoi was not issued - there was no trial.

    That is, we return to the weight of evidence.
    Quote: karish
    Professionals are wrong too.
    To make mistakes and turn such an ordinary thing as murder into some ridiculous farce is not the same thing.
    Quote: karish
    They know, therefore, polonium 210 was used, which was not determined by the usual radioactivity test (Geiger counter)
    And the effects of radiation exposure to doctors are unknown? Nowadays, this is quite a well-known thing.
    Quote: karish
    Remember that time, remember who Litvinenko was close to, remember who he was - then you will come to a conclusion.
    So what? What exactly did Putin get?
    Quote: karish
    of course, and he poured the same polonium on the meadow laughing

    Are there any witnesses who saw how he sprinkled himself on them?
    Quote: karish
    anecdote recalled

    That is, there are no fundamental objections?
    1. karish
      karish 24 March 2018 15: 54
      0
      Quote: Dart2027
      That is, we return to the weight of evidence

      ??
      Quote: Dart2027
      To make mistakes and turn such an ordinary thing as murder into some kind of ridiculous farce is not the same thing

      I repeat once again, everyone is mistaken and professionals are the same
      Zelimkhan Abdulmuslimovich Yandarbiev
      Killed in February 2004 in Doha as a result of an operation by Russian special services. Fact of belonging he was arrested and then convicted in Qatar, "demolitionists" to the Russian special services recognized February 26, 2004 in a special statement addressed to the authorities of the emirate, and. about. Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Igor Ivanov

      Quote: Dart2027
      So what? What exactly did Putin get?

      Meanwhile, the main version of the reasons for the murder of Litvinenko is considered an attempt to prevent his testimony for the Spanish prosecutor in the case of the Russian mafia - working in the FSB, Litvinenko specialized in organized crime groups. Some media reported that the Spanish case was largely based on Litvinenko’s testimony, but this is a mistake - as Prosecutor Jose Grinda told The Insider, he was really going to interrogate Litvinenko, but he was poisoned a week before the scheduled interrogation. Thus, if the aim of the killers was to prevent his testimony, the murder was successful.

      In this article, The Insider explains what exactly Litvinenko was supposed to inform the investigation, and for the first time publishes testimonies about the connections of the mafia with Vladimir Putin of another witness who also mysteriously died.

      https://theins.ru/politika/19049
      Quote: Dart2027
      Are there any witnesses who saw how he sprinkled himself on them?

      Do not turn into a farce, all the places where there was Lugovoi and Kovtun - excellently lit
      Quote: Dart2027
      That is, there are no fundamental objections?

      Of course there is.
      I have provided enough links to information, check out.
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 24 March 2018 18: 22
        +2
        Quote: karish
        Zelimkhan Abdulmuslimovich Yandarbiev
        was blown up without any exotic tricks. About this I said.
        Quote: karish
        https://theins.ru/politika/19049
        There is nothing for Putin to do but play games with some kind of Tambov ones ... When they start shouting about some billions that no one has seen by themselves, this at least claims to be logic.
        Quote: karish
        Do not turn into a farce, all the places where there was Lugovoi and Kovtun - excellently lit
        So what? A Scotland Yard employee could not visit these places? Nobody saw Lugovoi himself with polonium in his hands.
        Quote: karish
        Of course there is.
        I have provided enough links to information

        I also read
        Quote: Dart2027
        Litvinenko’s father accused the son of a Soviet-American biologist Alex Goldfarb of poisoning https://www.gazeta.ru/social/2018/03/21/11690293.
        shtml
        Litvinenko’s father, hugging Lugovoi, named the name of the murderer of his son http://www.mk.ru/social/2018/03/20/otec-litvinenk
        o-obnyav-lugovogo-nazval-imya-ubiycy-syna.html
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          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 24 March 2018 19: 55
            +2
            Quote: karish
            just despite all this PROFESSIONALS for some reason got
            Professionals can get caught, but one thing when they acted professionally, but they were beaten, and another circus in the spirit of Hollywood. And by the way, then many more "fighters for the independence of Ichkeria" were destroyed, but no one came across.
            Quote: karish
            you doubt the relations of politicians with crime
            It depends on what level. Putin was already not an ordinary person.
            Quote: karish
            Nobody caught Chikatilo eating the victims
            During a search in his house, he found a bunch of kitchen knives, a hammer with which Chikatilo killed the victims, and shoes, the size and pattern of which coincided with the print found near the corpse of one of the victims, as well as a briefcase in which lay a rope, knife and petroleum jelly.
            That is, the evidence is really strong.
            Quote: karish
            Sorry, but Papa Litvinenko has no opinion
            Does the opinion of the British special services have?
            1. karish
              karish 24 March 2018 20: 25
              0
              Quote: Dart2027
              Professionals can get caught, but one thing when they acted professionally, but they were beaten, and another circus in the spirit of Hollywood. And by the way, then many more "fighters for the independence of Ichkeria" were destroyed, but no one came across

              many beeches - meaning zero (you excuse me) -
              I argue that professionals can make mistakes (and make mistakes) - do you agree with this or not?
              Quote: Dart2027
              It depends on what level. Putin was already not an ordinary person

              within Russia, a position that does not guarantee anything. More abruptly people than he went into oblivion.
              Nothing prevented him from having connections with criminals.
              Like many officials before and after him, Putin was generally engaged in foreign trade relations of St. Petersburg.
              Quote: Dart2027
              During a search in his house, he found a bunch of kitchen knives, a hammer with which Chikatilo killed the victims, and shoes, the size and pattern of which coincided with the print found near the corpse of one of the victims, as well as a briefcase in which lay a rope, knife and petroleum jelly.
              That is, the evidence is really strong.

              Well, in relation to Lugovoi, the same thing is no less.
              nevertheless, the opponent claims
              Quote: Dart2027
              So what? A Scotland Yard employee could not visit these places? Nobody saw Lugovoi himself with polonium in his hands.

              and believes that this is enough
              Quote: Dart2027
              Does the opinion of the British special services have?

              Of course, they conducted the investigation, if the pope had something to say, he could calmly testify on TV, but like any normal person - if not in England, then at the British consulate or embassy in the Russian Federation.
              I think, even in the territory from the prosecutor's office of the Russian Federation, the same would not have caused problems.
              But for some reason he did not.
              Strange, no?
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 25 March 2018 06: 26
                0
                Quote: karish
                I argue that professionals can be wrong (and wrong) - do you agree or not

                Quote: Dart2027
                Professionals can get caught, but it’s one thing when they acted professionally, but they were beaten, and another circus in the spirit of Hollywood

                Quote: karish
                Nothing prevented him from having connections with criminals.

                That is, again, nothing concrete, but some rumors?
                Quote: karish
                Well, in relation to Lugovoi, the same thing is no less.
                We found houses with his fingerprints and found some traces in places where someone had visited - this is not the same thing. Not to mention the recognition of Chikatilo himself.
                Quote: karish
                But for some reason he did this. Strange, no? In the Russian Federation
                Given the fact that the British intelligence services were participants, if not organizers of the murder, nothing strange.
  33. Rakti-kali
    Rakti-kali 24 March 2018 15: 52
    0
    Quote: karish
    Well, actually (as far as I know), British justice does not imply conviction, without the presence of the accused and defense counsel thereof.
    Lugovoi was not issued - there was no trial.

    What did not stop the same British justice in absentia condemn Pavel Karpov to 3 months in prison, without the presence of an accused in Britain and without any legal defense.
    Quote: karish
    Yes, therefore, an extradition request was filed so that Lugovoi could stand trial (of course, with the possibility of legal defense)

    And why then did they give evidence of Berezovsky’s guilt provided by the Russian Federation without verification and did not extradite him and his accomplices to the Russian Federation at the request of the Prosecutor General’s Office of the Russian Federation so that Berezovsky and his accomplices could stand trial (of course, with the possibility of legal defense)?
    Quote: karish
    Therefore, polonium 210 was used, which was not determined by the usual study of radioactivity (Geiger counter)

    see answer above. Dosimetric and radionuclide-determining equipment has not ended on a Geiger-Muller counter for a long time; an alpha radiation sensor is required in such equipment located in the state in the radiological departments of hospitals.
    ps What about the site? The citation mechanism and the response comment box work through the jo ... stump deck.
    1. karish
      karish 24 March 2018 16: 09
      0
      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      Which did not stop the same British justice in absentia from convicting Pavel Karpov for 3 months in prison, without the presence of an accused in Britain and without any legal defense

      can you give me more details?
      I'm not quite up to date, but according to Karpov I found
      Pavel Karpov, retired 35-year-old lieutenant colonel of justice and number 4 on the Magnitsky list, told Ksenia Sokolova aboutwhy filed a lawsuit to protect reputation with William Browder and Jamison Firestone in the High Court of London, where did he get the money for a lawyer and whether he managed to refute during the process the charges of complicity in the murder and torture of Sergei Magnitsky, as well as in the implementation of fraudulent schemes

      https://snob.ru/selected/entry/67114
      he was present in person
      The High Court of London issued an arrest warrant for ex-investigator of the Russian Interior Ministry Pavel Karpov, who is one of the central defendants in the Magnitsky list. The decision was made in connection with "contempt of court and disobedience" to the law. This is stated in a press release posted on Thursday, May 25, on the Law and Order in Russia website, created with the support of businessman William Browder, co-founder of Hermitage Capital.


      Karpov did not pay 650 thousand pounds (about 749 thousand euros) of legal costs that the British investment fund incurred during the defense at the suit of the former investigator.

      In 2012, Pavel Karpov filed a lawsuit in a London court, accusing Browder and his colleague, the head of Firestone company Jamison Firestone, of defamation, but was denied to consider the case. The prosecutor's office ordered a former employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation to compensate the costs of the fund for lawyer services, but Karpov did not take any steps to implement the decision. He did not appear at the next meeting of the High Court of London, having sent his own essays to the lawyers of the “mocking poems” foundation, Law and Order in Russia clarifies. In September 2016, the accused was sentenced to three months in prison for contempt of court with a deferment of sentence. He was also absent from a December 2016 hearing..

      so the court was.
      And he was present at it (at the first), and He was convicted of contempt of court. (More precisely, for failure to comply with his decision)
      This is a bit (or rather, not at all what I said about Lugovoi).




      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      And why then are they evidence of guilt Berezovsky provided by the Russian Federation shallows without verification

      why do you think that without verification?
      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      so that Berezovsky and his accomplices could stand trial (of course, with the possibility of legal defense)?

      feel the difference
      meadow with a full collection of evidence - is still in the stage of the suspect. because the court was not
      Berezrvsky and many others in the Russian Federation were convicted in absentia - although neither they nor their lawyers were present in court.
      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      Dosimetric and radionuclide-determining equipment does not end long ago on a Geiger-Muller counter; an alpha radiation sensor is mandatory in such equipmentstatewide in the radiology departments of hospitals.

      read the article, it is written in detail why radiation and polonium were not specifically determined in the first weeks of treatment.
      he was not treated in the radiology department, no one even suspected poisoning with a radioactive substance
      1. Rakti-kali
        Rakti-kali 24 March 2018 21: 17
        0
        Quote: karish
        And he was present at it (at the first), and was convicted of contempt of court. (More precisely, for failure to comply with his decision)
        This is a bit (or rather, not at all what I said about Lugovoi).

        And what is the difference? The decision on the arrest was taken by a private.
        Quote: karish
        why do you think that without verification?

        Because the transmitted data from the Berezovsky criminal case clearly indicated Berezovsky’s connection with the murder of Litvinenko and other crimes, but they were ignored in Scotland Yard.
        Quote: karish
        Berezrvsky and many others in the Russian Federation were convicted in absentia - although neither they nor their lawyers were present in court.

        Who prevented them from attending? They completely voluntarily and knowingly refused to participate in court hearings (although if my sclerosis does not change the moment, Berezovsky’s lawyers quite actively participated in the trial trying to tighten it in every possible way). And just for such cases, the Code of Criminal Procedure provides for the possibility of conviction of the defendant in absentia.
        Quote: karish
        he was not treated in the radiology department, no one even suspected poisoning with a radioactive substance

        The signs of acute LB are very specific, even green sisters and paramedics should identify them. Or do you consider British doctors to be complete non-professionals, one might say unsuitable?
        1. karish
          karish 24 March 2018 21: 57
          0
          Quote: Rakti-Kali
          And what is the difference? The decision to arrest was taken

          The difference is that he was present at the trial and was no longer in the category of the accused. The court decision was made.He is convicted of failure to comply with a court decision. in his own case, which he himself sued, was present at the trial and was even satisfied (according to him) with the decision.
          And convicted - for non-payment. and failure to appear in court on a subsequent subpoena
          Can't you see the difference?

          Quote: Rakti-Kali
          Because the transmitted data from the Berezovsky criminal case clearly indicated Berezovsky’s connection with the murder of Litvinenko and other crimes, but they were ignored in Scotland Yard.

          well, everything was connected with Berezovsky, only you didn’t answer me, where did the polonium come from on Lugovoi, Litvinenko (from which he died) and there are no such tracks on Berezovsky.
          Lugovoi acted on the order of Berezovsky?
          Quote: Rakti-Kali
          Who prevented them from attending? They completely voluntarily and knowingly refused to participate in court hearings (although if my sclerosis does not change the moment, Berezovsky’s lawyers quite actively participated in the trial trying to tighten it in every possible way). And just for such cases, the Code of Criminal Procedure provides for the possibility of conviction of the defendant in absentia.

          In the Russian Criminal Code, yes. but not in English.
          request

          Quote: Rakti-Kali
          Symptoms of acute LB are very specific, even green sisters and paramedics should identify them.

          I tell you again
          Litvinenko had some symptoms of radioactive poisoning. He began to lose hair. However, when the doctors brought in a Geiger counter, the result was negative. He was obviously seriously ill, but no one could understand what exactly.

          Two weeks after admission to the hospital, Litvinenko was taken to an intensive care unit at the University College in central London with an escorted by police. He had catastrophically few white blood cells. It looked like his immune system was breaking down.

          He also had symptoms of acute bone marrow failure. He began to prepare for a bone marrow transplant, but Litvinenko’s condition continued to deteriorate.
          Professor Amit Natwani, a specialist in blood diseases, was one of the key members of the team treating Litvinenko.

          "His internal organs refused to work one after another. It started with the liver, then the kidneys and then the heart refused very quickly. We were in a hurry trying to figure out the cause, but some other organs were also affected," says Natwani.

          After 18 days in the hospital, his illness remained equally incomprehensible. "We knew that with organ failure and bone marrow failure, it would be very difficult for us to save his life," says Goldstone.


          Quote: Rakti-Kali
          Or do you consider British doctors to be complete non-professionals, one might say unsuitable?

          you reproach it. I somehow believe.
          1. Rakti-kali
            Rakti-kali 24 March 2018 23: 04
            +1
            Quote: karish
            And convicted - for non-payment. and failure to appear in court on a subsequent subpoena
            Can't you see the difference?

            What is the difference for what is condemned! ?? Convicted in absentia! You wrote that there is no such thing in Britain, I gave an example of an absentee condemnation in Britain, why did you sirloin with sirloin? Admit the error and do not reflect.
            Quote: karish
            well, everything was connected with Berezovsky, only you didn’t answer me, where did the polonium come from on Lugovoi, Litvinenko (from which he died) and there are no such tracks on Berezovsky.

            Rukalitsa ... What do you think Berezovsky personally ran for Litvinenko with polonium in London! ??
            Quote: karish
            Lugovoi acted on the order of Berezovsky?

            Well. You can try to develop this version. Although I find this unrealistic.
            Quote: karish
            In the Russian Criminal Code, yes. but not in English.

            Then why resent the refusal to extradite Lugovoi? If the British do not care about the laws of the Russian Federation, then why should the Russian Federation comply with the laws of Britain?
            Quote: karish
            I tell you again

            Do not. Better learn the materiel.
            Quote: karish
            I somehow believe.

            I do not discuss issues of faith, so as not to offend anyone. You can believe in anything, even in a flying pasta monster. But “losing hair”, “catastrophically few white blood cells”, “acute bone marrow failure”, “internal organs refused to work” - that is, the dude has deep pancytopenia against the background of aplasia of hematopoiesis with signs of leukemia and British scientists ... doctors don’t even try check the reasons for this, and the list of checks is recommended as follows:
            The presence of concomitant chronic diseases in the patient.
            The presence of hereditary diseases.
            Does the patient have bad habits.
            It is being clarified whether a long-term intake of any medications has been conducted recently.
            The presence of tumors in the patient.
            Has been in contact with various toxic elements.
            Was the patient exposed to radiation or other radiation factors?.
  34. Falcon5555
    Falcon5555 24 March 2018 16: 05
    0
    The British BBC service publishes two different materials, one in its own language and the other in Russian. It is written in English that Timoshkov had a telephone conversation with Skripal in 2012, and no other contacts are reported in the article. Accordingly, if Skripal turned to the Russian authorities for a “complete pardon” (that is, if Timoshkov did not lie, or Skripal did not lie to Timoshkov, and the Air Force does not lie, and the story of subsequent contacts is not omitted “for brevity”), then this it could happen between 2010 - the date of exchange, and 2012. Timoshkov doesn’t "talk" about whom he was contacting, nor in any way - by letter, through a lawyer, or otherwise, in the English version. Just in case, let me remind you that until May 2012, President was Medvedev, not Putin. Timoshkov claims that he (allegedly) "asked for permission to return because he wanted to see his mother, brother and other relatives."
  35. Kosmotoga
    Kosmotoga 24 March 2018 16: 09
    0
    You could forgive him if he betrayed secrets under pain of death. But he voluntarily because of his selfish motives. Therefore, the skin, live and how you are your family you will look into the eyes of a corrupt.
  36. Altona
    Altona 24 March 2018 16: 27
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    Quote: karish
    Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov denied reports that former GRU Colonel Sergey Skripal asked Vladimir Putin for permission to return to Russia. “No. It’s not,” said Peskov.

    ------------------------------------
    Peskov sometimes carries a blizzard ... How can he be believed? laughing
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  37. Rakti-kali
    Rakti-kali 24 March 2018 17: 40
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    Quote: karish
    Representative of the Prosecutor General’s Office came to Scotland Yard and took evidence

    Yeah, only the interrogated persons refused to testify on the questions posed by the Russian representatives, in which the British representatives only condoned them.
    about extradition
    Quote: karish
    The process of testifying does not provide for extradition, especially if a criminal case was instituted (like a crime) in England

    The testimony process involves extradition because Berezovsky was also charged with crimes on the territory of the Russian Federation, the connection with which he tried to hide by the murder of Litvinenko.
    According to Part 1 of Art. 12 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, a citizen of the Russian Federation who committed a crime in the territory of another state is subject to criminal liability under the legislation of the Russian Federation.
    Quote: karish
    or call it a farce - when it’s uncomfortable and nothing to say

    I did not understand your thought - what did you want to say? The British investigation put a bolt on all the evidence from Russia and in every possible way prevented the Russian investigation from receiving information from Berezovsky, while at the same time accusing Russia without any evidence of committing a crime - is this not a farce.
    Quote: karish
    A rare radioactive substance that was used to poison former FSB officer Alexander Litvinenko in London could only be obtained in Russia. Such an opinion was expressed by an honorary professor at the University of Sussex, the theoretical physicist Norman Dombey, as part of an investigation into the circumstances of the murder, whose words are quoted by The Guardian. He claims that polonium was produced at the Avangard closed enterprise in the city of Sarov in the Nizhny Novgorod Region. All other countries stopped producing polonium in the 1970s.

    Yeah, yeah ... that's just almost all the polonium exported from there ... ta-dam !!! ... to the USA and Great Britain! Is it an amazing coincidence?
    Well, as a poisoned halberd - any state that has equipment for processing uranium ores can produce polonium - for example, the URENCO Group is a company engaged in uranium enrichment and located ... ta dam !!! ... in the UK.
    Have chemical or other studies been conducted on polonium samples from Litvinenko’s body? Not! The British side not only did not do any analysis, but also did not provide the opportunity to make an analysis to the Russian side. So the honorary professor at the University of Sussex, the theoretical physicist Norman Dombey, either simply expressed his personal opinion, or he left as the last.
    Quote: karish
    they are not specific, dozens of diseases have similar symptoms.

    LOL STAH ??? It is the complex of symptoms of LB that is quite recognizable; in acute gastrointestinal and vascular radiation injury (did Litvinenko have this?), Even the junior medical staff of the collective farm feldsher point should recognize the complex of symptoms.
    Quote: karish
    sure ?

    Prove that I'm wrong, and that the hospital staff where Litvinenko was taken did not have a radiological department with the appropriate equipment and personnel, and that radio dosimeters and radionulide determinants now do not have sensors for detecting alpha radiation.
    Quote: karish
    it is strange then why they determined alpha radiation only after 3 weeks

    Really strange, maybe it was intended to, but how would the sacred victim of the bloody regime survive - would it be a shame for the British secret services?
    Although, as recent practice shows, screwing up has become the norm for British intelligence.
    Quote: karish
    Well, this is blocked for you, this is an article of the Air Force

    And do you still offer? Can I still disable Kaspersky and unlock all ports?
    1. karish
      karish 24 March 2018 18: 02
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      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      Yeah, only the interrogated persons refused to testify on the questions posed by the Russian representatives, in which the British representatives only condoned them.

      where are the firewood from? Especially about indulgence
      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      The testimony process involves extradition because Berezovsky was also charged with crimes on the territory of the Russian Federation, the connection with which he tried to hide by the murder of Litvinenko.
      According to Part 1 of Art. 12 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, a citizen of the Russian Federation, committed a crime in the territory of another state, is subject to criminal liability under the laws of the Russian Federation.

      not a topic.
      Berezovsky did not commit a crime in England.
      Yes, and what does it have to do with it?
      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      The British investigation put a bolt on all the evidence from Russia and in every possible way prevented the Russian investigation from receiving information from Berezovsky

      Russian prosecutors simply confused the tracks.
      Lugovoi’s path through the radioactive background was visible all the way from the border with Russia (in Russia, of course, no one investigated it)
      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      Yeah, yeah ... that's just almost all the polonium exported from there ... ta-dam !!! ... to the USA and Great Britain! Is it an amazing coincidence?

      and where did he come from on Lugovoi? you smoke --- sprinkled it with Berezovsky

      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      LOL STAH ??? It is the complex of symptoms of LB that is quite recognizable; in acute gastrointestinal and vascular radiation injury (did Litvinenko have this?), Even the junior medical staff of the collective farm feldsher point should recognize the complex of symptoms.

      Seriously ? What about the collective farm staff?
      You know, no more than 2 weeks ago, acquaintances (more precisely, relatives of acquaintances) came with their 2-year-old daughter.
      I met them and organized medical checks and doctors. More precisely, it’s not me but a friend’s company - well, it’s not about that.
      So, at the 9th month, the girl’s breast was swollen (or what’s called a baby’s name) - she was, of course, to the doctors, who were not diagnosed with it, but generally agreed on premature sexual development due to a brain tumor.
      With the findings of doctors (including the candidate of medical science), the results of analyzes, etc. etc.
      one and a half year old child on the strongest tablets. diet and every 2 months in the hospital.
      To confirm the diagnosis and determine the route of treatment came to us.
      For 2 days, all tests and checks were performed including MRI, ultrasound blood - well, the whole canoe in which I do not really understand.
      On the evening of the second day at a meeting with a professor (or rather two) - it was announced.
      You have an absolutely healthy baby, all the tests confirm this, if you continue to feed the baby with these pills, you will kill him and most importantly, about the swelling of the chest.
      With prolonged breastfeeding (and the mother breast-fed her baby for almost a year) - swelling of the mammary glands is often observed, as the baby receives the hormones of an adult woman along with milk.
      IT SHOULD KNOW ANY CHILDREN'S DOCTOR- And the treatment was prescribed by KAN.med Sciences and she determined the adenoma in the brain.
      think about it, in the light of your post, about radiation sickness


      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      and that the hospital staff to which Litvinenko was taken did not have a radiological department with the appropriate equipment and personnel, and that radio dosimeters and radionulide detectors now do not have sensors for detecting alpha radiation.

      read the article, it describes why they didn’t determine it, quite clearly
      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      And do you still offer? Maybe I still need to disable Kaspersky and the ports will block everything

      no, I gave you (in the second post) a link read from Russia
      http://www.bbc.com/russian/international/2015/07/
      150728_litvinenko_polonium_newsnight
      1. Rakti-kali
        Rakti-kali 24 March 2018 21: 44
        +1
        Quote: karish
        where are the firewood from? Especially about indulgence

        And what did Berezovsky give out?
        Quote: karish
        Berezovsky did not commit a crime in England.

        LOL STA! ?? The Prosecutor General’s Office accused him of the murder of Litvinenko. One Russian citizen killed another Russian citizen. So that's just the point.
        Quote: karish
        Russian prosecutors simply confused the tracks.

        So you say ... And the English queen was picking her nose while the British James Bands sprinkled Litvinenko with polonium and dandruff.
        Quote: karish
        Lugovoi’s path through the radioactive background was visible all the way from the border with Russia (in Russia, of course, no one investigated it)

        Where did the woods about "in the Russian Federation, of course, nobody investigated" come from - it was the representatives of Russia who said that according to the results of the investigation, many points (almost all) did not have any signs of increased radiation. In addition, especially for alternatively gifted Britons, it was pointed out that the same polonium in a tightly closed glass bubble is not detected at all and leaves no traces for it is completely shielded.
        Or do you think Lugovoi flew in an airplane, lived in an apartment, traveled on transport constantly sprinkled with polonium like a cine drug lord coke?
        Quote: karish
        and where did he come from on Lugovoi? you smoke --- sprinkled it with Berezovsky

        Lugovoi was next to Litvinenko at the time or immediately after the poisoning of the latter, and particles of matter could get on him just from Litvinenko.
        Quote: karish
        Seriously ? What about the collective farm staff?
        You know, no more than 2 weeks ago, acquaintances (more precisely, relatives of acquaintances) came with their 2-year-old daughter.

        Quote: karish
        IT SHOULD KNOW ANY CHILDREN'S DOCTOR

        I'm lying! Firstly, the symptoms in the example you cited are extremely scarce and ambiguous, and secondly, read something about radiation damage so that you would not carry such nonsense in the future.
        Quote: karish
        no, I gave you (in the second post) a link read from Russia

        The same 404.
  38. Vovanya
    Vovanya 24 March 2018 17: 53
    +2
    Quote: karish
    It smells like a beginner.

    I would even aggravate - it smells like "Fool"!
  39. afrikanez
    afrikanez 24 March 2018 18: 03
    +1
    Whenever a conversation comes about the "poisoned" Skripals, I really want to ask: where are they in general and was there poisoning? Enough already to "breed" for all sorts of crap! negative
  40. sgazeev
    sgazeev 24 March 2018 18: 49
    +2
    Now they will not let him out, only through the cemetery fence. The Englishwoman famously spoils.
  41. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 24 March 2018 19: 05
    0
    Well, you need to somehow mix Putin ...
  42. sogdy
    sogdy 24 March 2018 19: 06
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    karish,
    It’s not clear to me - are you joking or where?
    It is not possible to isolate ONLY alpha particles - the foundation of nuclear physics.
    We are talking about quantities, orders of magnitude smaller than in the laboratory of Rutherford. Neither Rutherford nor the elder Joffe died of radiation sickness.
    Damn, in the hospital all the electronics had to fail and the cameras show gallos around the patient.
    And yes, alpha particles are carriers of radioactive damage, the "protection" from them is purely visual, the screen itself becomes radioactive after the estimated time.
    1. karish
      karish 24 March 2018 19: 18
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      Quote: sogdy
      It is not possible to isolate ONLY alpha particles - the foundation of nuclear physics.

      Seriously?
      Polonium-210 in alloys with beryllium and boron is used for the manufacture of compact and very powerful neutron sources that practically do not create gamma radiation

      Would you even read for a start
      Geiger-Muller Cylindrical Counter
      The operation of the meter is based on impact ionization. gamma quantaemitted by a radioactive isotope, falling on the counter walls, electrons are knocked out of it.

      Quote: sogdy
      And yes, alpha particles are carriers of radioactive damage, "protection" from them is purely visual, the screen after the estimated time itself becomes radioactive

      learn mate part
      The main methods of protection against ionizing radiation are
      from alpha radiation - a sheet of paper, rubber gloves, a respirator
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 24 March 2018 19: 59
        +2
        Quote: karish
        learn mate part

        Is Novosibirsk INP enough?
        So do not drive the blizzard.
        Quote: karish
        Polonium-210 in alloys with beryllium and boron is used for the manufacture of compact and very powerful neutron sources that practically do not produce γ radiation

        What are neutrons? I dare to assure that these are not alpha particles.
        That is, you are up to date at the level of the yellow press.
        Quote: karish
        You know, no more than 2 weeks ago, acquaintances (more precisely, relatives of acquaintances) came with their 2-year-old daughter.

        By the way, the difference in diagnoses does not exceed 3%, of which only 5% (of 3%!) Are justified (which does not mean fundamental differences).
        1. karish
          karish 24 March 2018 20: 16
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          Quote: sogdy
          Is Novosibirsk INP enough?

          What do you mean by that ?
          Quote: sogdy
          What are neutrons? I dare to assure that these are not alpha particles

          I told you to teach the materiel
          Moreover, 210Po is an almost pure α-emitter. Alpha decay, if it does not occur on the ground or not only the ground state of the final nucleus, is accompanied by gamma radiation. In the vast majority of cases, 210Po decays to the ground state of 206Pb with the emission of alpha particles with an energy of 5.3 MeV, and only a negligible fraction (0.00122%) of 210Po nuclei decays to the excited (803 keV) state of 206Pb, which decays with the emission of gamma rays

          Quote: sogdy
          By the way, the difference in diagnoses does not exceed 3%, of which only 5% (of 3%!) Are justified (which does not mean fundamental differences).

          but in general, it’s possible to distinguish a healthy child from a sick one (for more than a year).
          1. Unbearable
            Unbearable 24 March 2018 21: 16
            +1
            Andrei Lugovoi, whom the British prosecutor accuses of killing Alexander Litvinenko, passed a lie detector test. It was conducted in Moscow by British polygraph examiners. Conclusion: Lugovoi was not involved in the poisoning of the former FSB officer.

            The test results are presented in a written opinion by UK Lie Tests.

            "During the audit, the following relevant questions were asked and the following answers were given: Question 1: Did you do anything that led to the death of Alexander Litvinenko? Answer: no. Question 2: Have you been involved in the death in any way Alexandra Litvinenko? Answer: no. Question 3: Have you ever dealt with polonium? Answer: no, ”the test results say.

            - Berezovsky does not take a word and hopes for an investigation
            - The first channel spoke to Litvinenko’s father - he also protects Lugovoi

            “After a thorough analysis of all the diagrams obtained as a result of the check, it was possible to find out that the answers to these questions were not false. Thus, in our professional opinion, Andrei Lugovoi was telling the truth when he answered the above questions,” the document emphasizes. signed by members of the British Polygraph Association, experts Bruce and Tristam Burgess
          2. sogdy
            sogdy 24 March 2018 22: 55
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            Quote: karish
            What do you mean by that ?

            Everything is clear with you, you are very far from the topic. All information - from the yellow press. Well, at least you need to know basic things about frowning ones.
  43. Vladimir K.
    Vladimir K. 24 March 2018 19: 29
    +2
    Here is the motive! Berezovsky, by the way, right before the "suicide", as they say, wanted to return to Russia.
  44. kefan
    kefan 24 March 2018 20: 47
    0
    Well, horns, died, so died laughing
  45. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 24 March 2018 21: 37
    +2
    In the bar behind the counter, a man in the OZK mixed toxic chemicals in a flask. "Newbie!" - thought Stirlitz.
  46. assa67
    assa67 24 March 2018 22: 43
    +5
    Berezovsky, and besides him, a crowd of freaks, supposedly coming to a "free" country with money (stolen) 10 million. pounds and citizenship, as soon as billions end, die?
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 25 March 2018 04: 32
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      And who needs them without dough and secrets? ... Used condoms are thrown away, aren't they?
      1. assa67
        assa67 25 March 2018 20: 41
        +2
        You yourself answered navoprs hi
  47. LeonidL
    LeonidL 25 March 2018 04: 10
    +1
    Berezovsky also requested back ... now Skripal .... Well, the Anglican land does not let them down!
  48. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 25 March 2018 04: 20
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    To our PR services, cards in hand! -no hastened to break off "there was no letter" / Peskov’s statement / 100% reason to accuse Britons of poisoning.
  49. Pivasik
    Pivasik 25 March 2018 19: 42
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    Or maybe the ex-colonel and daughter ate something not fresh, caviar, for example, bought from a hand in Sheremetyevo, and the policeman Anglitsky, on a search, for free, smeared a sandwich and ... bit him. Version, like the rest, without evidence winked
  50. Domestic cat
    Domestic cat 25 March 2018 21: 14
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    Quote: karish
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    We, knowing Putin, we can assume that our president is specially hiding the news of receiving a letter in order to give a "bird" - that is, Theresa May, get bogged down deeper with her supporters.

    Well, of course, all around there are solid FUCKS and a letter laughing , GDP was delivered personally to hands, by pigeon mail personally from Skripal.
    The most interesting thing is that the BBC reads about this, and May doesn’t have any courses at all.
    belay - in my opinion only you can believe in it.
    By the way, the yen’s question (according to Putin’s knowledge) - if you know him so well - what changes will there be after the election? wink
    It became known that Vladimir Putin suggested that at least two former presidential rivals continue their political careers.

    Ksenia Sobchak and Pavel Grudinin received a similar proposal from the president, reports “Arguments of the Week”.

    Ksenia Sobchak is invited to become a member of the Federation Council according to the president’s quota or to head the not very successful region of the country to demonstrate her leadership capabilities.

    wink

    Ksenia only in SovFed was not enough, she and Russia would mummify Russia with her mother.
    1. Cossack 471
      Cossack 471 25 March 2018 22: 02
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      A dispute has begun with the son of Israel. and he, like a Kiev merchant, fought off everyone. In any question, they are "luminaries" Your S-400 does not see the F-35! Question Did you sit in the cockpit of the complex? Were you called there? Well, everyone knows! That's what Google life-giving does!