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The military version of the Ka-62 helicopter is ready but not tested.

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Holding "Helicopters of Russia" has developed a military version of the Ka-62 helicopter specifically for the Ministry of Defense, reports RIA News With reference to the general director of the company, Andrey Boginsky.


The military version of the Ka-62 helicopter is ready but not tested.


The holding noted the great interest of the military department to the helicopter. At present, the appearance of the future car is already ready, but has not yet begun testing, because Negotiations are underway about the necessary needs of the helicopter.

In the previous state armament program, the release of 150 machines in the military version was laid, but the holding delayed the development of the product.

Ka-62 is a promising multi-purpose helicopter developed by Kamov with a closed tail rotor. The first flight was made in 2016, three flight models are ready for February 2018, reports "RG-Force"
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  1. Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog 23 March 2018 13: 50
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    Interesting. As I understand it, this light shock transport will most likely be for SSO.
    1. just exp
      just exp 23 March 2018 14: 05
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      +1 for a full replacement of the Mi-8 **** it will be too small IMHO.
      1. svp67
        svp67 23 March 2018 14: 23
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        Quote: just explo
        +1 for a full replacement of the Mi-8 **** it will be too small IMHO.

        It is not always necessary to drive the Mi-8, its capabilities are redundant, for which the “younger brother” - the Ka-60 will come in handy, and if the capabilities are not enough, the “older” - Mi-38, will be driven ... In addition, the Ka-60 more quiet and adapted for landing in unprepared places. That is, for landing DRG
        1. faiver
          faiver 23 March 2018 17: 07
          +2
          most often its capabilities are redundant, there is simply no other ...
  2. svp67
    svp67 23 March 2018 13: 52
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    The military version of the Ka-62 helicopter is ready but not tested.
    Wonderful, your deeds, Lord ... Previously, the same "" Kamov, positioned the Ka-62 as a CIVIL version of the military Ka-60 "Kasatka", even tested the Ka-60, but now the civilian version has a military one ...
    Ka-60 "Kasatka" at MAKS-2009
    1. Flyer_64
      Flyer_64 23 March 2018 14: 02
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      The military had a domestic fenestron, which had problems during testing. On civil put European development. So what happened to the helicopter now, if Mo became interested in him ??
      1. svp67
        svp67 23 March 2018 14: 16
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        Quote: Letun_64
        The military had a domestic fenestron, which had problems during the tests.

        We have forgotten how to do the propellers?
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 23 March 2018 14: 24
          +1
          well no. MO has lost interest. to him. apparently, the Mi8 modifications are preferable.
        2. Flies
          Flies 24 March 2018 11: 32
          +1
          Fenestron is not just a "propeller". The problem is that the gap between the blades and the wall is several mm. Changing the size will either damage the blade or lead to a sharp drop in efficiency. But that's aerodynamics. And then there's technology. Here, the Chinese have a licensed copy of French
          Dauphin. As far as I see, they don't want to get involved with fenestron anymore. A proven scheme with a main and simple tail rotor is used.
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 23 March 2018 15: 16
      +5
      Quote: svp67
      Earlier, the same "" Kamov, positioned the Ka-62 as a CIVIL version of the military Ka-60 "Kasatka", even tested the Ka-60, but now the civilian version has a military one ...

      Everything is very logical. Under the Soviet Union, almost all aircraft construction was dual-purpose. Apparently now we are gradually switching to these very tracks. As for the helicopter ... it will most likely partially replace the MI-8 niche of various modifications. Based on the results of the future operation, it is possible that the Ministry of Defense will purchase a large series.
      1. svp67
        svp67 23 March 2018 15: 22
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        Quote: NEXUS
        Under the Soviet Union, almost all aircraft construction was dual-purpose

        So, then it is. But ... There are NO foreign parts and assemblies in the Ka-60, but in the Ka-62 they are FULL. And accordingly, this "is not korosho"
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 23 March 2018 15: 27
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          Quote: svp67
          So, then it is. But ... There are NO foreign parts and assemblies in the Ka-60, but in the Ka-62 they are FULL. And accordingly, this "is not korosho"

          Temporarily I suppose ... but since the conversation about the military version has come, then there is certainly a decision in the future to switch to our own.
          1. svp67
            svp67 23 March 2018 15: 31
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            Quote: NEXUS
            ..but since we started talking about the military version, there is probably a decision in the future to switch to our own.

            That is, to release the KA-60 ...
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 23 March 2018 15: 38
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              Quote: svp67
              That is, to release the KA-60 ...

              And KA-60 and KA-62 with their components. Otherwise, this entire military project will be covered with a copper basin.
              1. Flyer_64
                Flyer_64 23 March 2018 20: 17
                +1
                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: svp67
                That is, to release the KA-60 ...

                And KA-60 and KA-62 with their components. Otherwise, this entire military project will be covered with a copper basin.

                The opinion is being circulated to take the Ka-62 for trial operation for more complete flight tests, since Russian Helicopters lacks funds for testing. For the Ministry of Defense it will also be an experience in order to understand in what form to use a helicopter in the army.
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 23 March 2018 15: 48
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      Wonderful, your deeds, Lord ... Previously, the same "" Kamov,

      You speak the truth, Serge! Wonderful ... From Kamovskaya’s coaxial branding scheme, there’s not a single thing left !!! He began in the custody of the French manner - with a fenestron! Maybe because of this got a little skorstenka? Maybe for the sake of all this wise suffering, sobbing?
      Helicopters .. A-U? Give an intelligible answer, develop doubts ... bully
      1. Kurare
        Kurare 23 March 2018 16: 56
        +2
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        From the coaxial proprietary scheme of Kamovskaya - not a fig left !!!

        At one time, after analyzing the technical specifications, the Kamovites concluded: this helicopter will be in hover mode no more than 1% of the total flight time, therefore, the coaxial scheme was considered redundant. This was the official explanation. To be honest, I personally disagree with him. It would be better to do what they are good at. wink And fenestron was practiced on the Mi-24 in the USSR.
        1. Flyer_64
          Flyer_64 23 March 2018 20: 36
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          Quote: Kurare
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          From the coaxial proprietary scheme of Kamovskaya - not a fig left !!!

          At one time, after analyzing the technical specifications, the Kamovites concluded: this helicopter will be in hover mode no more than 1% of the total flight time, therefore, the coaxial scheme was considered redundant. This was the official explanation. To be honest, I personally disagree with him. It would be better to do what they are good at. wink And fenestron was practiced on the Mi-24 in the USSR.

          I disagree. In the TK for the Ka-60, in addition to transport (liaison. Passenger), transport and shock, there was a search and rescue option. And when performing search and rescue operations, hovering is allocated from 15% to 30% of the total flight time. Why did the Kamov Design Bureau decide to switch to a helicopter with a tail? It's just that the total operating cost of a coaxial helicopter is higher than that of a tailed helicopter. Why did you choose fenestron? The main accompanying sound of the helicopter comes from the tail rotor. In flight, the sound from the fenestron is much quieter than that of a propeller. In addition, fenestron behaves better when hovering with a side wind. But KB Kamov does not refuse the coaxial scheme, research is underway to reduce the height of the coaxial rotor hub in order to reduce the weight characteristics of the propeller hub and drag. As soon as they reach the result, they will jump in the helicopter industry.
          1. Kurare
            Kurare 23 March 2018 21: 59
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            Quote: Letun_64
            In the TZ for the Ka-60, in addition to the transport (liaison, passenger), transport and shock, there was a search and rescue option in use. And when performing a search and rescue operation, hovering is allocated from 15% to 30% of the total flight time.

            In principle, you yourself have confirmed my statement. Since the version of the PS Ka-60 is, more or less, a niche product, hence the figure of 1% for hovering, based on all variants of the machine. This does not mean that the Ka-60 cannot hover for a long enough time, just a coaxial helicopter would do it better.
            Quote: Letun_64
            Why did the Kamov Design Bureau decide to switch to a helicopter with a tail? It's just that the total operating cost of a coaxial helicopter is higher than that of a tailed helicopter.

            Absolutely agree. This is also one of the reasons why the Kamovites chose this scheme.
            Quote: Letun_64
            But KB Kamov does not refuse the coaxial scheme, research is underway to reduce the height of the coaxial rotor hub in order to reduce the weight characteristics of the propeller hub and drag.

            As the promising developments of many eminent helicopter manufacturers show, the coaxial scheme is extremely promising and here, as one hopes, the Kamovites have a huge advantage due to the experience of several decades of designing coaxial axles.
  3. newcomer
    newcomer 23 March 2018 13: 52
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    good, very good for both MO and KB Ka. but what and what about the Ka 60?
    1. svp67
      svp67 23 March 2018 13: 59
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      Quote: newbie
      but what and what about the Ka 60?

      And I have only ONE explanation. For the HIGHER Command they want an "air limousine", at the highest level. So much for the "military version" of the Ka-62, and for the rest of the army - the "workhorse" of the Ka-60 ...
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 23 March 2018 14: 03
        +1
        and so I'm worried about the "horse", there were rumors that its revision was frozen.
      2. Flyer_64
        Flyer_64 23 March 2018 20: 38
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        Quote: svp67
        Quote: newbie
        but what and what about the Ka 60?

        And I have only ONE explanation. For the HIGHER Command they want an "air limousine", at the highest level. So much for the "military version" of the Ka-62, and for the rest of the army - the "workhorse" of the Ka-60 ...

        And chasing the Mi-8 after one person is normal. It doesn't matter which version will carry the person anyway cheaper than the Mi-8.
        1. svp67
          svp67 23 March 2018 20: 40
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          Quote: Letun_64
          It doesn't matter which version will carry the person anyway cheaper than the Mi-8.

          For one and Mi-2 would be enough ... or as it is called now, "Anzat"
          1. Flyer_64
            Flyer_64 23 March 2018 21: 01
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            I agree. But "Anzat" was defined as a school desk. And that the reviews are not very good. Better about the Ka-226. But the Mi-2 was used by the troops as a desk, a messenger, and also an RHR helicopter. Anzat was originally a commercial project. Probably that's why it doesn't adapt except as a desk.
  4. Yrec
    Yrec 23 March 2018 14: 09
    +1
    Coaxials would have done better, leave the classic Mil.
    1. svp67
      svp67 23 March 2018 15: 32
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      Quote: Yrec
      Coaxials would have done better, leave the classic Mil.

      The principle of competition ... Yes, and Better "Killer Whale" like "miles"
      1. Kurare
        Kurare 23 March 2018 16: 58
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        Quote: svp67
        Yes, and Better "Killer Whale" like "mile"

        And what similar machines does Milevtsev have?
        1. faiver
          faiver 23 March 2018 17: 11
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          but they don’t have any laughing request
        2. svp67
          svp67 23 March 2018 17: 30
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          Quote: Kurare
          And what similar machines does Milevtsev have?

          In metal - no, but work on the creation was carried out ...
          Mi-54 ...however, financial problems continued to delay the project and the project was closed in 2011.


          And also of course the MI-40 and its civilian version of the Mi-58 ...

      2. abc_alex
        abc_alex 23 March 2018 17: 25
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        And why is it better?
        The masses of the cars are the same, the speeds differ in favor of Kamovskaya by only 30 km / h, but it takes more miles and rises higher. And if we take the Mi-8 - Mi-17 modification, then in comparison with 14 passengers from Kamovskaya, the Mil car in the passenger version can take up to 26 people.
        Probably, if we take the Mi-8 from the moment when the development of the Ka-60 (1983) began on Kamov, then yes, there is some advantage. But the Ka-8 has no advantages over modern Mi-60 vehicles. Well, apart from the glamorous design "by European standards".

        Well, of course, the Mi-8 family car has been "licked" by manufacturers to a screw. We have accumulated vast experience in operating these machines around the world in various climatic conditions.

        So the prospects for the Ka-60 \ 62 are generally obscure ...
        1. svp67
          svp67 23 March 2018 17: 34
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          Quote: abc_alex
          And why is it better?
          The masses of the cars are the same, the speeds differ in favor of Kamovskaya by only 30 km / h, but it takes more miles and rises higher. And if we take the Mi-8 - Mi-17 modification, then in comparison with 14 passengers from Kamovskaya, the Mil car in the passenger version can take up to 26 people.

          Listen, why are you taking some kind of Mi-8 ... 17. Take the Mi-26 right away, it can take a lot. But sometimes it is necessary to transport a dozen people, with some kind of cargo, and the main thing is to do it quietly, and drop it there and so that it would not be afraid to lose the helicopter from the fact that it hooks its steering propellers.
          1. Kurare
            Kurare 23 March 2018 19: 00
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            Quote: svp67
            Listen, why are you taking some kind of Mi-8 ... 17. Take the Mi-26 right away, it can take a lot.

            good Each helicopter has its own niche. The lack of an analogue of the UH-1 in the USSR / Russia has always affected. So they drove the Mi-8/17 semi-loaded.
        2. Flyer_64
          Flyer_64 23 March 2018 20: 54
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          Quote: abc_alex
          And why is it better?
          The masses of the cars are the same, the speeds differ in favor of Kamovskaya by only 30 km / h, but it takes more miles and rises higher. And if we take the Mi-8 - Mi-17 modification, then in comparison with 14 passengers from Kamovskaya, the Mil car in the passenger version can take up to 26 people.
          Probably, if we take the Mi-8 from the moment when the development of the Ka-60 (1983) began on Kamov, then yes, there is some advantage. But the Ka-8 has no advantages over modern Mi-60 vehicles. Well, apart from the glamorous design "by European standards".

          Well, of course, the Mi-8 family car has been "licked" by manufacturers to a screw. We have accumulated vast experience in operating these machines around the world in various climatic conditions.

          So the prospects for the Ka-60 \ 62 are generally obscure ...

          It is not clear what you are comparing with. Mi-8/17 and Ka-62 are completely different. The maximum takeoff weight of Mishka is 13t, and the Ka62 is 6t, I will not even paint further.
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 23 March 2018 15: 20
    +1
    If the vesch turned out, it will be necessary, an easy flight "birdie"!
  6. prodi
    prodi 23 March 2018 16: 58
    +1
    it seems that new, military (combat) versions of helicopters should already be only with a pushing propeller
  7. Click
    Click 23 March 2018 21: 31
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    Tell the foolish what are the advantages of a closed tail rotor over an open one?
  8. shuravi
    shuravi 24 March 2018 11: 54
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    Quote: Click
    Tell the foolish what are the advantages of a closed tail rotor over an open one?

    And google yourself on the topic of fenestron laziness?