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The Ministry of Defense will form tank battalions in the amphibious divisions

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Until the end of this year, the military department will form in the airborne assault divisions tank battalions report News.




The Defense Ministry said that tank battalions will appear in the 7 of the Novorossiysk and 76 of the Pskov Airborne Assault Divisions. They will be armed with T-72B3. According to the results of trial operation, it will be decided to create tank units in other airborne units.

“At the end of 2016, separate tank companies were formed in the indicated divisions and four assault assault brigades (11, 31, 56 and 83). The armament of these units received T-72B3. At the same time, an experiment is being conducted in the Kostroma 331 th Guards Parachute Regiment - here the Sprut-SD was used as a heavy combat vehicle. This ACS was originally designed to combat armored vehicles and enemy manpower as part of the airborne units. It has great mobility, but practically has no armor protection, ”the article says.

The newspaper notes that the tank divisions within the Airborne Forces have been formed several times already, but have existed for a short time.

In Afghanistan, the first experience of the use of tank units of the Airborne Forces was obtained. Then it became clear that in local conflicts tanks are the most suitable vehicles for performing a wide range of combat missions. In modern conditions, airborne units sometimes have to act as motorized rifle units; they must be able to crush the enemy with great firepower. Therefore, the paratroopers needed tank battalions, which in the right quantity would provide powerful and protected fire weapons, the chairman of the executive committee of the Union of paratroopers of Russia Valery Yuryev told the publication.

The newspaper reminds that 1982 was based on the 103 airborne division (stationed in Kabul at that time) and formed a tank battalion armed with X-NUMX T-15 tanks. In 62, after the division was withdrawn from Afghanistan, the unit was disbanded.
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  1. Vard
    Vard 22 March 2018 10: 26
    +1
    Of course, it is not entirely clear why these formations ... But let's hope that they know what they are doing ... I hope I will not disclose military secrets, in our Samara region the war is in full swing ... The exercises are going on day and night ... Here this makes me happy...
    1. 210ox
      210ox 22 March 2018 10: 32
      +7
      It’s clear from the article. The airborne units sometimes act as motorized rifles and they need support.
      Quote: Vard
      Of course, it is not entirely clear why these formations ... But let's hope that they know what they are doing ... I hope I will not disclose military secrets, in our Samara region the war is in full swing ... The exercises are going on day and night ... Here this makes me happy...
      1. Vard
        Vard 22 March 2018 10: 35
        0
        I always thought that tanks and infantry ... it is much better than separately ... That is, now it is a separate compound, which includes both of them?
        1. 210ox
          210ox 22 March 2018 10: 42
          +1
          It turns out that way. And I think the gain is right.
          Quote: Vard
          I always thought that tanks and infantry ... it is much better than separately ... That is, now it is a separate compound, which includes both of them?
    2. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 22 March 2018 10: 46
      +1
      Yes, everything is clear, the Airborne Forces are the most operational forces of Russia, and they will not be needed to throw behind enemy lines as many people think, but to strengthen the defense of the perimeter of Russia or the front, for example, if there is a need somewhere to quickly strengthen the group or create a new line of defense , on the border with China or on the Kuril Islands, and anywhere else - infantry and infantry fighting vehicles will be thrown into the area from the air, and tanks by sides to the nearest airfield, and from there on their own ...
      All the rest we are moving only railway, and this is the speed, and the vulnerability ... While it is decided with the Russian Railways, while the platforms to adjust, while they plunge - a month will pass ...
      1. basmach
        basmach 22 March 2018 14: 51
        +2
        Yes, yes, yes, count how many transporters you need to deploy a tank battalion. Apart from fuels and lubricants, BC .. and even from the nearest airfield you can crawl a couple of hundred kilometers, especially in Transbaikalia. Not every airdrome can accept 76. While crawling, from the landing, only memories will remain. Yes, and with modern air defense it is still necessary to manage to conduct a landing near the front line
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 22 March 2018 16: 07
          +2
          Quote: basmach
          how many transporters are needed to transfer a battalion of tanks.

          And why "transporters? It is necessary to give airborne troops T-80 ... they are also" reactive "! wink
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 22 March 2018 18: 03
            +1
            We must give the airborne troops-T-80 ... they are "reactive"!

            No request They are gas turbine. wink
        2. figter
          figter 22 March 2018 16: 22
          0
          I propose to immediately call the Airborne Forces now their true names — motorized rifle divisions and brigades.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 23 March 2018 02: 35
            +1
            Quote: figter
            I propose to immediately call the Airborne Forces now their true names — motorized rifle divisions and brigades.

            stop Shock motorized rifle ..... (will be ... how is it now? ... in the "trend"!)
            1. figter
              figter 23 March 2018 14: 08
              +1
              Well, what trifle. Introduced tanks - change the tactics of action. Tanks need to be maintained and accompanied, will request a full-fledged BMP instead of aluminum BMD. And so it went along the chain. The staffing of the support units will increase, the carts will stretch to many miles. What are the jumps and planes already here ..
    3. Midshipman
      Midshipman 22 March 2018 10: 58
      0
      Not very happy indeed. That training is, of course, good, bad, that the threat of war is very real.
    4. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 22 March 2018 11: 16
      +7
      Quote: Vard
      Of course, it is not entirely clear why these formations ... But let's hope that they know what they are doing ...

      Own tank units in the Airborne Forces is a long overdue solution. For the real combat use of the Airborne Forces over the past half century is very different from the "parade" exercises with parachute throwing and patriotic films ("In the zone of special attention", etc.).
      In fact, the past half century, the Airborne Forces have been used as airborne motorized infantry to reinforce threatened directions. At the same time, because of the lower firepower of the airborne assault, a situation often arises when the arriving airborne formations have to be reinforced with attached units (tanks, artillery), "taken away" from those formations whose paratroopers arrived to reinforce. Here is a paradox: strengthening leads to weakening.
      The second reason is that you yourself understand what kind of equipment and which frames are usually give to uncle attach to "strangers" to enhance.
      The third reason is that every time the coordination of the landing and the attached "heavy" units must be carried out anew. And usually there is no time for this.
      The limiting case of the re-equipment of the Airborne Forces with its own equipment should be considered 345 guards. airborne infantry regiment in Afghanistan - since 1982, the regiment was rearmament on BTR-70, BMP-2, T-62 and D-30. This is how the parachute landing in modern warfare turned out. smile
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 22 March 2018 16: 16
        +1
        Quote: Alexey RA
        In fact, the past half century, the Airborne Forces have been used as airborne motorized infantry

        It’s hard to argue with that .... and even if it’s not “airmobile” ... If recently we’re talking about airborne landing techniques, then for some reason, I remember a video where “hummers” are pouring “from the sky” ... wink
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 22 March 2018 18: 17
          +1
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          It’s hard to argue with that .... and how could it not be “airmobile”

          The Novorossiysk division just mentioned in the article came to the last war by rail. Providently reconstructed railway for a couple of months before the start of 08.08.08. smile
          In addition, Crimea is also in the zone of responsibility of the Novorossiysk.
  2. vorobey
    vorobey 22 March 2018 10: 26
    +3
    An interesting experiment ... but not the first .. I think so in 93g. experiments were put on us in 810 brigade. when it was reinforced by a tank company .. then the actions of the DShB reinforced by a tank company. but the marines are the same, but the transportation of heavy equipment in the airborne forces .. DBB is still more paratroopers ..
    I would like to see the structure .. for sure, two companies of MBT (I didn’t write medium ones in the old fashion) and a company of octopus as a landing option ..
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 22 March 2018 10: 33
      +4
      Really interesting! "Octopus-SD" landing for the Airborne Forces, and T72B3? Or are the landing units "retraining" as motorized infantry?
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 22 March 2018 10: 37
        +1
        Quote: kapitan92
        for landing - a question. We have serious problems with BDK!

        There are no questions for landing, but with the BDK the problems are coming and going!
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 22 March 2018 10: 38
        +2
        Quote: kapitan92
        Really interesting! "Octopus-SD" landing for the Airborne Forces, but T72B3 for the Marines? If they are used to defend the coast - it is understandable, but for landing - a question. We have serious problems with BDK! hi


        the heavy equipment is now in service with the coastal defense brigades .. in landing operations they land in the second echelon when the BDK can already approach the coast .. but for now we do not plan large-scale landings from the sea .. so maybe the problems with the BDK will be settled by then. . laughing in general, by experience, firepower with tanks increases significantly ..
    2. Serg65
      Serg65 22 March 2018 10: 35
      +2
      Quote: vorobey
      I think so in 93. experiments put on us in the xnumx brigade

      Welcome Sasha! hi
      Strengthening the airborne began in Afghanistan!
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 22 March 2018 10: 44
        +3
        Quote: Serg65
        Strengthening the airborne began in Afghanistan!


        assigned units are different from regular units .. combat coordination, contact, mutual understanding and so on .. the commander of the given unit will not take risks for the supported trying to save his fighters .. I say since he went through it .. just like the supported one will not take risks. .and then bind together .. laughing
        1. kirgiz58
          kirgiz58 22 March 2018 12: 50
          +4
          Quote: vorobey
          the commander of the attached unit will not risk for the supported

          Well, it’s not for me to explain to you “dowries” and “supported”. And if the supported ones may not “see each other's eyes” (then your experience is possible), then with the dowries, not everything is so simple. Both the commander to whom they were attached and the commander of the dowry organize the battle interaction personally (the second is subordinate to the first), and if the “dowry” takes care of his own and does not fulfill the order of the first .. then you yourself know the result for the second. And in the case of support, there is a senior boss who organizes (orders) the work of one in the interests of the other, so he will receive a cap for the "frugality" attached. Although I admit that the "general leisure after the battle" brings together commanders and fighters, and those who were given and supported, even down to the Heroic Self-sacrifice (from the capital letters of these words).
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 22 March 2018 15: 32
            +2
            Quote: kirgiz58
            "supported".


            incorrectly put it ... and yet, when they threw us without reconnaissance of the route right after landing on the march to occupy the line of defense, when all the rough work fell on us and the cream as a result was removed by others .. and all the jambs on the dowries were easier to dump .. today they are with us and tomorrow they will return to themselves ..
            Quote: kirgiz58
            "general leisure after the battle"


            and it’s not only a matter of it .. when you closely interact at the level of personal contact some kind of telepathic connection is born or something .. We with the commander of the DShR often replaced each other and on foot with his fighters acted by replacing him or dividing into groups and sailors accepted me like him ..
        2. Svarog51
          Svarog51 22 March 2018 14: 12
          +1
          Alexander hi Rudolff and I would very much like to hear your expert opinion here in this article https://topwar.ru/138259-morskuyu-pehotu-usilyat-
          tankami.html # comments
          Just a profile for the "marine tankers" good
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 22 March 2018 14: 24
            +2
            Quote: Svarog51
            Alexander hi Rudolff and I would very much like to hear your expert opinion here in this article https://topwar.ru/138259-morskuyu-pehotu-usilyat-
            tankami.html # comments
            Just a profile for the "marine tankers" good


            I just ... always adhered to this opinion ... But .. For this, coastal defense divisions are formed .. which form the backbone of the coast defense and, when landing, go in the second echelon to the captured bridgehead ... WWII experience ... even take the landing operations of Eltigen or Novorossiysk for 43 years .. when most of the tanks were sunk in the first echelon of the landing without being able to crush the coast art batteries .. but the battalion or company should be in the brigade staff ... if it is planned to operate autonomously .. firepower is growing disproportionately ..
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 22 March 2018 14: 28
              +1
              Sanya, thank you very much hi And please copy this koment into that article so that Rudolph also sees it.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 22 March 2018 11: 20
        +2
        Quote: Serg65
        Strengthening the airborne began in Afghanistan!

        Yeah ... actually, the changes in OShS 345 Guards. PAPs in a real war in Afghanistan answer very well the question of whether heavy equipment is needed by modern airborne forces. smile
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 March 2018 10: 33
    +3
    These tank units will be able to help the landing after advancing to the captured bridgehead. But with the same success, tank units attached to reinforcements can be used. So far, as in the Fanfan-Tulip film, we will rename the flanks and mislead the enemy. He will think that it is left, but in fact it will be right ... Well, the RF Ministry of Defense is probably more visible.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 22 March 2018 11: 52
      +4
      Quote: rotmistr60
      These tank units will be able to help the landing after advancing to the captured bridgehead.

      These tank units will be able to help the landing party survive in the conditions in which it has been used for the last half century: no parachute landing, equipment and aircraft are transported by airplanes or even by rail, the airborne forces themselves are used as an elite airborne motorized infantry to strengthen in the threatened direction.
      Quote: rotmistr60
      But with the same success, tank units attached to reinforcements can be used.

      Can. But tank units do not condense from a vacuum - in order to give tanks to someone, you must first take them from someone. And it turns out that the motorized infantry, to strengthen which the paratroopers arrived, is forced to weaken themselves in order to support these same paratroopers. In addition, the question arises of the interaction between the Airborne Forces and the attached tankers, compounded by the fact that there is usually no time for coordination at all, and the paratroopers themselves before that saw the tanks only in photographs and interacted with them, at best, only theoretically.
  4. Yrec
    Yrec 22 March 2018 10: 45
    +3
    Expected Step. The Airborne Forces are already divided into airborne and airborne assault units. Air assault - in fact, Rapid Reaction Forces without the need for a parachute drop. And, as practice shows, without tanks you don’t normally even go to the toilet.
  5. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 22 March 2018 11: 00
    +3
    Is logical. Large airborne assaults are not expected. This is exotic for exercises and movie cameras.
    Airborne divisions are turning (all over the world) into elite infantry
    divisions. And they need infantry support tanks.
  6. Sergey-72
    Sergey-72 22 March 2018 11: 19
    +2
    Tanks are good, but it would be better if they organized the third regiment in the divisions. And in Afghanistan, tankers were cutting for me, they didn’t take root there.
  7. Wolka
    Wolka 22 March 2018 12: 52
    0
    a very controversial decision, for understanding it is necessary to take into account the scale, landscape and a number of other natural and technogenic factors of the potential theater of operations, as well as the combat potential of the enemy, a clear understanding of the strategic goal and, accordingly, the solution of tactical combat missions ...
  8. Hiller
    Hiller 22 March 2018 19: 21
    0
    Landing Airborne! Airborne assault divisions today are, one must understand, the conclusions from the experience of military operations in Afghanistan and the North Caucasus. Now will there be additions to the combat manuals?
  9. APASUS
    APASUS 22 March 2018 19: 33
    0
    I do not understand why this unit of the Airborne Forces?
    Judging by the regulations of the tasks performed by the paratroopers, the self-propelled anti-tank gun 2S25 Octopus, equipped with an additional KAZ, is quite enough for them.
  10. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 22 March 2018 19: 50
    +1
    Or maybe just stop using the landing as motorized rifle and raise the level of training of ordinary motorized rifle?