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Israel: If it were not for our attack on the atomic reactor in the SAR, it would eventually have seized the IG *

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The Israel Defense Forces published a paper on an operation conducted over 10 years ago. We are talking about the attack on one of the objects in the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic. The submission says that a blow was struck at an “almost completed nuclear reactor” at 280 km from Damascus - in the province of Deir ez-Zor.


RIA News cites the statement of the press service of the Israeli military:
Four F-16 aircraft eliminated the atomic threat not only to Israel, but to the entire region. This happened on the night of 5 on 6 August 2007.


Previously, such information was published in various media with reference to unnamed sources. However, Israel officially did not confirm this information. As not confirmed information about the creation of a nuclear reactor Syria.

The website of the Israel Defense Forces publishes 2007 footage of the year, which shows the striking of a rectangular building in a desert area.

Israel: If it were not for our attack on the atomic reactor in the SAR, it would eventually have seized the IG *


At the same time in Israel they report why they decided to declassify the information now. It is noted that Israel demonstrates all the danger of the uncontrolled spread of nuclear technologies - the territories where the nuclear facility was located were later captured by ISIS (* banned in the Russian Federation).



From the material:
It is terrible to imagine what would happen if the object were in the hands of ISIS *.


Does this mean that already in 2007 in Israel they “guessed” that Syria would be chosen by international terrorists as a testing ground?
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  1. Berkut154
    Berkut154 21 March 2018 12: 46
    +20
    Here are the Jews !!! Change shoes in a jump!
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 21 March 2018 12: 47
      +21
      As always, wise Jews knew in advance that Islamists would take over the area. And our Anglo-Liberals all tell tales of a good and honest West. They just took it and bombed it. And we would have been bombed in this way for a long time, if not for nuclear weapons.
      1. Vard
        Vard 21 March 2018 12: 53
        +28
        Then the following conclusion follows ... if Assad would have nuclear weapons ... then there would be neither IS ... nor moderate opposition ... nor American and Turkish occupation ...
        1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 21 March 2018 12: 54
          +32
          Quote: Vard
          Assad would have nuclear weapons ...

          If there were nuclear weapons, there would be no bloody dictator Assad and the Barmalei, and Assad would be a respected international affairs partner.
          1. Varyag_0711
            Varyag_0711 21 March 2018 13: 01
            +19
            Aristarkh Ludwigovich (Aristarkh Ludwigovich) Today, 12:54 ↑ New
            If there were nuclear weapons, there would be no bloody dictator Assad and the Barmalei, and Assad would be a respected international affairs partner.
            Yes, yes! Look, even Trump somehow stopped Kim calling him a rocket man. Yes, and generally podsudilsya in relation to the DPRK.
            And as for the article, the Israelis have turned any villainy inside out and will call it the struggle for world peace. As they were jackals, so they remained. I hope to see how mouse cat's tears come off in the near future!
        2. figwam
          figwam 21 March 2018 12: 58
          +14
          Israel: If it weren’t for our blow to the nuclear reactor in the SAR, the IS would capture it over time

          They admitted that since 2007 they began to destroy Syria.
          1. Simargl
            Simargl 21 March 2018 13: 06
            +2
            Does this mean that already in 2007 in Israel they “guessed” that Syria would be chosen by international terrorists as a testing ground?

            Quote: figvam
            They admitted that since 2007 they began to destroy Syria.
            More likely planned.
            1. Babermetis
              Babermetis 21 March 2018 23: 08
              +1
              I didn’t know what they planned .., but started in 2007. The Syrians first started. They are settlements under the noses of UN observers, began to strengthen underground communications and "populate" them with civilian military. They pulled together light and medium artillery. They were preparing a military company based on Hezbollah’s experience in southern Lebanon, while the special services of Syria conducted propaganda activities in the Friendship villages on the Golan Heights.
              What goes around comes around. Asymmetric war. Israel is only defending itself.
              1. Simargl
                Simargl 21 March 2018 23: 27
                +3
                Quote: Babermetis
                Israel is only defending itself.
                Preventive strikes and expansion of the territory?
                Cool! Need to adopt.
                ... and what does the nuclear facility have to do with it?
        3. Warrior with machine gun
          Warrior with machine gun 21 March 2018 13: 00
          +4
          if it weren’t for Israel’s friends overseas, then there wouldn’t be any other “charms”, but alas, history does not suffer a subjunctive mood))
        4. Ascetic
          Ascetic 21 March 2018 13: 15
          +6
          Quote: Vard
          Then the following conclusion follows ... if Assad would have nuclear weapons ... then there would be neither IS ... nor moderate opposition ... nor American and Turkish occupation ...

          And the Golan returned home.
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 21 March 2018 14: 14
            +11
            Quote: Ascetic
            Quote: Vard
            Then the following conclusion follows ... if Assad would have nuclear weapons ... then there would be neither IS ... nor moderate opposition ... nor American and Turkish occupation ...

            And the Golan returned home.

            Like if Japan has nuclear weapons, the Kuril Islands will return home.
          2. KonoGon
            KonoGon 21 March 2018 14: 24
            +8
            Quote: Ascetic
            Golan returned home.
            Eat for sure, home, to Israel, and forever and ever. Amen.
      2. Hanokem
        Hanokem 21 March 2018 22: 38
        +3
        Syria and I are at war. Preventing the creation of nuclear weapons by the adversary is absolutely legitimate
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 21 March 2018 22: 43
          +6
          Quote: Hanokem
          ... absolutely legitimate ...

          Stop using words whose meanings you don’t know laughing
    2. Sands Careers General
      Sands Careers General 21 March 2018 15: 03
      +3
      No way the Jews will calm down. They consider themselves the most God-chosen people.
    3. Maz
      Maz 22 March 2018 10: 13
      0
      Rave. If it weren’t for your blow, no one would dare to host in Syria like that. An example of this is South Korea, Pakistan and Israel itself.
  2. Berkut154
    Berkut154 21 March 2018 12: 47
    +3
    Here are the Jews !!! Change shoes in a jump!
  3. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 21 March 2018 12: 49
    +3
    .... If I had not gotten drunk on the advertised antibiotics, then I would surely have contracted gonorrhea .. Without even cheating on my wife ...
    And so, all the joy!)))
  4. rpuropuu
    rpuropuu 21 March 2018 12: 53
    +4
    It’s scary to imagine what would happen if the object was in the hands of ISIS *
    It’s scary to imagine that a country with the Sun among the ten strongest in power does not help a neighbor who was on the verge of defeat (2015) from terrorists belay recourse
    1. Varyag_0711
      Varyag_0711 21 March 2018 13: 04
      +22
      This country itself is the number one terrorist in the Middle East and the number three in the world, after the United States and Small Britain! Why would they fight terrorists if they feed them, cherish and cherish on their territory ?!
    2. brigadier
      brigadier 21 March 2018 13: 15
      +9
      does not help a neighbor who was on the verge of defeat (2015) from terrorists

      Syria to Israel is the enemy. Between Israel and Syria a state of war. What a neighbor ?! The word neighbor in Russian has a positive connotation.
      1. dog breeder
        dog breeder 21 March 2018 13: 34
        +12
        You are right, God forbid, to have a neighbor like Israel! After all, he knew that ISIS would appear, and did not warn!
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 21 March 2018 14: 15
          +7
          Quote: dog breeder
          You are right, God forbid, to have a neighbor like Israel! After all, he knew that ISIS would appear, and did not warn!

          Even if I knew, I would not have warned. What for?
          1. dog breeder
            dog breeder 21 March 2018 14: 39
            +5
            Aron Zaawi (Aron)
            Quote: dog breeder
            You are right, God forbid, to have a neighbor like Israel! After all, he knew that ISIS would appear, and did not warn!
            Even if I knew, I would not have warned. What for?

            Exactly why? Why were you given the opportunity to restore your statehood? And even earlier, why hid the Jews from extermination? Aron, why? You do not hope to begin to live peacefully in the future? Don’t be afraid of the "Az reward"
        2. brigadier
          brigadier 21 March 2018 14: 18
          +8
          After all, he knew that ISIS would appear, and did not warn!

          In addition to the election of Putin as president of Russia, all the events that may occur in the future are highly predictable and unlikely. We are not Wang.
    3. Nikolay Fedorov
      Nikolay Fedorov 21 March 2018 14: 54
      +8
      Quote: rpuropuu
      It’s scary to imagine that a country with the Sun among the ten strongest in power does not help a neighbor who was on the verge of defeat (2015) from terrorists

      How did this not help ?! How it helped! And it helps ... to be defeated by terrorists. Israel took over the medical care of the bearded, for some time (until the Russian Aerospace Forces stopped) Israel was the largest oil hub (ISIS stolen Syrian oil), all this time it has been providing fire support to international terrorists. And the destruction of Syria, as a sovereign state, is Israel’s cherished goal, which, in principle, it does not hide.
    4. danan
      danan 21 March 2018 15: 44
      +10
      I remember you helped with money, weapons and even the lives of your military experts to Egypt. What kind of relationship was ... Brothers forever! Only a short time this century was! And not the fault of the USSR! Americans beckoned with a finger and Egypt with a bang severed all relations and even doused all the good with mud!
      You do not understand the Arab mentality.
  5. Shura Sailors
    Shura Sailors 21 March 2018 12: 54
    +2
    If less poked their nose into the affairs of other states (applies not only to Israel) - there would be no organizations like ISIS. So no, influence in the region is more important than the life of foreign citizens. ''You need to be more modest, and then people will reach for you.
  6. askort154
    askort154 21 March 2018 12: 55
    +8
    That's when the "Israeli F-35" will strike at the Y-on nuclear facilities, then I will believe in the Israeli military-powerful hype. belay
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 21 March 2018 13: 04
      +8
      Quote: askort154
      That's when the "Israeli F-35" will strike at the Y-on nuclear facilities, then I will believe in the Israeli military-powerful hype. belay

      We can without F-35.
      1. Baby sitter
        Baby sitter 21 March 2018 13: 28
        +2
        "Mouse tears will pour out to the cat!" (Folk Middle Eastern proverb) :))
        1. dog breeder
          dog breeder 21 March 2018 13: 36
          +2
          History teaches nothing ...
          1. brigadier
            brigadier 21 March 2018 14: 21
            +8
            History does not teach anything.

            The last time Israel, as a state, lost the war of the Great Roman Empire. The story is long.
            1. dog breeder
              dog breeder 21 March 2018 14: 41
              +4
              Not afraid of another “last time”?
              1. brigadier
                brigadier 21 March 2018 15: 55
                +7
                Not afraid of another “last time”?

                And who is the Great Roman Empire today? No such.
                1. dog breeder
                  dog breeder 21 March 2018 16: 00
                  +3
                  brigadir (Mashak Mamterot)
                  Not afraid of another “last time”?
                  And who is the Great Roman Empire today? No such.

                  Well, usually chosen by fate, it is painfully beaten by unchosen barbarians. History of the Great Roman Empire.
                  1. brigadier
                    brigadier 21 March 2018 17: 19
                    +4
                    Well, usually chosen by fate, it is painfully beaten by unchosen barbarians. History of the Great Roman Empire.

                    We are not an empire ... barbarians do not threaten us .... so ... barbarians. Of course in the good sense of the word.
            2. Shahno
              Shahno 21 March 2018 17: 25
              +4
              Well, I would say an honorable defeat. The war to the last with the Great Empire ... Not bad. Only the barbarians resisted.
      2. askort154
        askort154 21 March 2018 13: 57
        +6
        Aaron Zaavi ....We can and without F-35.

        Aron, the fact that you 11 years ago, under the supervision of a pimp - was able to fill up a neighbor, this does not mean that you can now climb on Y-na at 15 t.km. from my sofa wink hi
      3. faridg7
        faridg7 21 March 2018 15: 24
        +4
        In the Middle East, Iran is threatening to crush Israel, can it iron the entire territory of Israel well, in advance, so that Iranians do not get nuclear and other important objects? TO AVOID!...
  7. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 21 March 2018 12: 56
    +2
    If it were not for the FSA with its policy of the collapse of the Middle East and the elimination of objectionable governments, then there would be neither Al Qaeda *, nor ISIS *, nor other barmales.
    The Israelis, as always, find a rationale for their ...
    Our S-300 would stand at the facility, hell they would fly there and bomb
  8. Egorovich
    Egorovich 21 March 2018 12: 58
    +12
    It’s not Israel, but Vanga in the flesh. One to one like a clown in the UN with a test tube, like Sarkozy in Libya with Gaddafi. In general, one abomination in the flesh. wassat
  9. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 21 March 2018 12: 59
    +10
    Does this mean that already in 2007 in Israel they “guessed” that Syria would be chosen by international terrorists as a testing ground?
    No, this is an attempt to give their attacks on sovereign countries a form of concern for the interests of the region and humanity in general.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 21 March 2018 17: 33
      +7
      This is an attempt to prevent an event unpleasant for the security of Israel. Like in Iraq. And we are not only talking about a "peaceful atom." Infection needs to be cut in the bud, then it will be too late. And intelligence works well for us ... As for the igil, they are not a rival or a threat to us, and it was not our task to prevent it, but Assad, first of all. These bastards know how the game ends with us, we will kill all the leaders of 10 for one, and therefore do not communicate.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 21 March 2018 17: 39
        +4
        [/ quote] [quote = Shahno] This is an attempt to prevent an event unpleasant for Israeli security. Like in Iraq. And we are not only talking about a "peaceful atom." Infection needs to be cut in the bud, then it will be too late. And intelligence works well for us ... As for the igil, they are not a rival or a threat to us, and it was not our task to prevent it, but Assad, first of all. These bastards know how the game ends with us, we will finish all 10 leaders for one, therefore they don’t get involved.

        Yesterday there were some threats, tomorrow others - it was not them, but about methods of counteraction. But for you, as a representative of your country, the justification of its policy is more than appropriate, but because our dispute would be rather meaningless.
  10. Des10
    Des10 21 March 2018 13: 00
    +11
    Egegei! smile
    To everyone who does not hate Israel ... conquer your freedom and then - criticize the actions of the state taking care of itself.
    So do the strong and the smart.
    (I really hope)).
    1. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 21 March 2018 13: 18
      +7
      And here hatred ???)))
      The country in which I live has repeatedly defended its right to survive, and the peoples living in it! Which, however, does not prevent me from criticizing the actions of people at the helm of power)
      Here, it seems to me, a slightly different "theme" ..)
      Not?))
      1. Des10
        Des10 22 March 2018 19: 03
        0
        So, if you do not hate, then my words are not for you.)
        I'm talking about those who have salivation in this, just the topic, - not controlled laughing !
    2. Hariton laptev
      Hariton laptev 21 March 2018 13: 29
      +12
      who conquered it ???? (freedom then?) In my Israel, they simply donated territories taken from the indigenous population. And in the future, being an aggressor, this state simply squeezed out more pieces. And he continues to do so.
      1. brigadier
        brigadier 21 March 2018 14: 23
        +7
        And later on being an aggressor, this state simply squeezed out more pieces

        Of course, I apologize, but the Kuril Islands, Sakhalin and Koenigsberg are certainly the original Russian lands ....
        And it was just a little over 70 years ago.
        This is about a log and a speck in the eye. Such a parable.
      2. KonoGon
        KonoGon 21 March 2018 14: 28
        +6
        Quote: Hariton Laptev
        indigenous people
        Indigenous people are Jews, Arabs in Arabia, Jews in Judea.
      3. Des10
        Des10 22 March 2018 19: 07
        0
        Just read the story you need - the best to understand. And not only this country.
  11. Livonetc
    Livonetc 21 March 2018 13: 08
    +5
    Quote: Des10
    Egegei! smile
    To everyone who does not hate Israel ... conquer your freedom and then - criticize the actions of the state taking care of itself.
    So do the strong and the smart.
    (I really hope)).

    Egegei then what Dear?
    And so it is.
    "I hope while I live".
    But the aspect of hatred does not apply to the citizens of Israel.
    He is being raised some shortsighted representatives Jewish diasporas, through their actions and overt contempt for the people of the countries in which they live.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 21 March 2018 13: 18
      +6
      Quote: Livonetc
      He is nurtured by some short-sighted representatives of the Jewish diasporas, with their actions and overt contempt for the people of the countries in which they live.

      Anti-Semitism is the best weapon of globalism and international Zionism.
    2. Dimachrus
      Dimachrus 21 March 2018 13: 44
      +2
      Moreover - from the old centuries of the population of the many peoples of the earth, to put it mildly (very), they do not slaughter representatives of the God-chosen - I dare to notice ;-)
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 21 March 2018 14: 17
        +8
        Quote: Dimachrus
        Moreover - from the old centuries of the population of the many peoples of the earth, to put it mildly (very), they do not slaughter representatives of the God-chosen - I dare to notice ;-)

        This is from an inferiority complex. Churchill said that anti-Semitism is the refuge of the wretched.
        1. Dimachrus
          Dimachrus 21 March 2018 20: 40
          0
          The number of wretched at all times is just amazing ;-)
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 21 March 2018 23: 15
            +1
            Quote: Dimachrus
            The number of wretched at all times is just amazing ;-)

            Yes, this good has always been enough.
      2. KonoGon
        KonoGon 21 March 2018 14: 29
        +5
        Quote: Dimachrus
        Moreover - from the old centuries of the population of the many peoples of the earth, to put it mildly (very), they do not slaughter representatives of the God-chosen - I dare to notice ;-)
        Gee, do you hate Russia for cheat? And the most hated country in the world.
        1. Korax71
          Korax71 21 March 2018 15: 14
          +2
          Yes, we are just the friendliest wink we carry reasonable, kind, bright. we have braces. just everyone envies us. bully
          1. KonoGon
            KonoGon 21 March 2018 19: 17
            +2
            Quote: Korax71
            Yes, we’re just the friendliest, we’re rational, kind, bright. We have braces. It’s just that everyone envies us.
            Dear, you have a great sense of humor. hi
            1. Korax71
              Korax71 21 March 2018 20: 39
              0
              It's a bitter truth hi
        2. dog breeder
          dog breeder 21 March 2018 16: 02
          +1
          KonoGon (Of course Yes)
          Quote: Dimachrus
          Gee, do you hate Russia for cheat? And the most hated country in the world.

          Maybe somehow in numbers?
          1. KonoGon
            KonoGon 21 March 2018 19: 16
            +2
            Quote: dog breeder
            Maybe somehow in numbers?
            Well, read "https://www.thetoptens.com/most-hated-countries
            /russia-232447.asp "
        3. Des10
          Des10 22 March 2018 19: 13
          0
          Quote: KonoGon
          Gee, do you hate Russia for cheat? And the most hated country in the world.

          Purely out of envy.
  12. shinobi
    shinobi 21 March 2018 13: 08
    +2
    And if there was a reactor? If there was, then the entire area around should be contaminated by 15-20 kilometers, and downwind by 150-500 km. The radiation should be ten times higher than the background and will be detected by satellites until now. Jews have protected themselves, this It’s understandable, but to talk about non-distribution only to them, and after the recent events with Korea, nuclear weapons will strive to have everything, because in practice this is the only guarantee of independence from the West.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 21 March 2018 13: 14
      +10
      It was completed, but not yet loaded with fuel. We waited for this moment.
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 21 March 2018 15: 32
        +7
        Quote: voyaka uh
        It was completed, but not yet loaded with fuel. We waited for this moment.

        Operation "Orchard" (clickable) hi
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 21 March 2018 15: 40
          +4
          Yes, you all wrote in great detail about this operation. good
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 21 March 2018 15: 42
            +3
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Yes, you all wrote in great detail about this operation.

            Well, as far as possible by "open sources". hi
            1. NN52
              NN52 21 March 2018 22: 08
              +7
              Bongo

              And on the basis of your "open sources", local guys from the promised land draw their conclusions .... Funny about them ...
              Your article is really closer to the topic ...

              But only now I got a quick look ...
      2. Maz
        Maz 22 March 2018 10: 27
        0
        That is, the meanness was intentional and premeditated?
    2. brigadier
      brigadier 21 March 2018 13: 17
      +6
      The reactor was in the final stages of construction, but before loading the fuel. If it were already with fuel - of course there would be no blow. But, thank God, we managed.
      1. NN52
        NN52 21 March 2018 13: 38
        +9
        brigadier
        This is not true, your statement ...
        The project was in its infancy, North Korea helped. And intelligence was from amers. There was essentially one box of the building, almost without equipment, and before the completion of this project, according to experts, it would take 3 to 6 years to put the reactor into operation. Even the air defense there was not Syrian, is not it strange?
        And so, Israel simply decided at the same time to make such a warning to Iran.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 21 March 2018 14: 14
          +6
          "Even the air defense was not Syrian, is not it strange?" ///

          Not at all strange. If air defense appears, it means building an important military
          an object. Air defense always attracts the attention of enemy intelligence.
          And so, even several months before the bombing, special forces had to be planted there -
          check what is being built?
      2. dog breeder
        dog breeder 21 March 2018 13: 42
        +1
        brigadir (Mashak Mamterot)
        If it were already with fuel - of course there would be no blow.

        We would sit quietly, in a good neighborly manner. We would talk with respect. They would try to cooperate - they would offer joint projects. And also, it would be glory to God.
        1. KonoGon
          KonoGon 21 March 2018 14: 31
          +4
          Quote: dog breeder
          We would sit quietly, in a good neighborly manner. We would talk with respect. Would try to collaborate - joint projects would offer
          Assad you mean? maybe just a dull he.
          1. dog breeder
            dog breeder 21 March 2018 16: 05
            +2
            KonoGon (Of course Yes)
            Assad you mean? maybe just a dull he.

            Oh, he is a radish! She won’t understand that Syrian oil belongs to the Americans!
            1. KonoGon
              KonoGon 21 March 2018 18: 47
              +1
              Quote: dog breeder
              I won’t understand
              I say, he is slow-witted
  13. Stas1973
    Stas1973 21 March 2018 13: 08
    +2
    Yeah, and if there would have been a timely strike on the IS by the Israelis, they would not have even reached this reactor.
    1. brigadier
      brigadier 21 March 2018 13: 18
      +4
      Yeah, and if there would have been a timely strike on the IS by the Israelis, they would not have even reached this reactor.

      And why is IS worse for Israel than Assad?
      1. Shura Sailors
        Shura Sailors 21 March 2018 13: 40
        +1
        And what for Syria (Assad) Israel is better, worse than ISIS? The same terrorists who poke their nose into the affairs of a foreign state
        1. The comment was deleted.
          1. askort154
            askort154 21 March 2018 14: 30
            +4
            brigadir ....Of course. Only on one sixth land is all pink and fluffy and noble and honest and kind and ....

            Yes, exactly - such! And they say for a long time - "Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword!" But from the rest of the five-sixth land, not all of these postulates are remembered or known. Still trying to wave the sword. Although many are already in sight. Learn the history of Russia well, and bad thoughts will leave your head. yes hi
          2. Shura Sailors
            Shura Sailors 21 March 2018 14: 39
            +3
            I hate flattery - Ukraine occupies a much smaller territory. And he does not stick his nose (with claims on the territory) into the affairs of neighboring states. With regards to 'pink, fluffy and noble' - my ancestors dug up the Black Sea wassat , but there were enough remnants of conscience not to call ourselves “God the chosen people” (for we are all God's creatures and all the children of God, right?).
            1. brigadier
              brigadier 21 March 2018 17: 21
              +3
              for we are all creatures of God and all children of God, are we not?

              No, but one of ours has become your god.
              The prospect looms.
              1. Shura Sailors
                Shura Sailors 21 March 2018 18: 54
                +3
                Again, not by God, but by the son of God (there is a version that he was Ukrainian wassat ).
                And you have one prospect - to live surrounded by "bloodthirsty terrorists" and cry that for some reason the Arabs hate you
      2. dog breeder
        dog breeder 21 March 2018 13: 44
        +1
        brigadir (Mashak Mamterot)
        And why is IS worse for Israel than Assad?

        The fact that you never found out.
        1. brigadier
          brigadier 21 March 2018 14: 10
          +2
          Well, in more detail? What are you .. general phrases. You know everything judging by your messages.
          1. dog breeder
            dog breeder 21 March 2018 14: 45
            +2
            More details will be given to you in Europe. Especially those whom the so-called refugees have offended ...
            1. brigadier
              brigadier 21 March 2018 17: 22
              +2
              More details will be given to you in Europe. Especially those whom the so-called refugees offended ..

              Have you already been explained? Well, share it. And then I have not planned trips to Europe for the next couple of months - I just returned recently.
              But a friend of my wife from Berlin visited us a couple of weeks ago. So you can not imagine how the Germans have welded up on the so-called refugees. They even threw out tenants and took refugees to billets in their houses / quarters. Then, however, overhaul is needed ....
              I want to note that in Israel we have these types of refugees with 20% of the population. We perfectly understand what the Arabs are like and how to behave with them and what to expect from them. We don’t need to be scared either. By the way, we work together with Israeli and autonomy. We even work with Arabs from the Gaza Strip - we raise high-tech for them - we do projects together. They are rockets for us - and we salaries for them.
              1. Stanislas
                Stanislas 21 March 2018 20: 48
                +2
                Quote: brigadir
                They are rockets for us - and we salaries for them.
                Well, the Arabs settled down ... Maybe we should flop once. Only money forward, and then look for you later. laughing
              2. Crane operator Nahamkinson
                Crane operator Nahamkinson 21 March 2018 21: 02
                +2
                brigadir.
                Well, since you write here,
                your comments
                From Israel...
                So their rockets (Arabs),
                the wrong system.
                But when they (the Arabs),
                rockets will appear
                that correct system.
                Then you, and you all
                You will not comment from
                Israel. And from Canada, Australia, and other countries. wassat
  14. Whisper
    Whisper 21 March 2018 13: 12
    +1
    It was necessary to say this in 2007: “If it weren’t for our today's strike on the nuclear reactor in the ATS, IG * would have captured it in the future” - that would have been aerobatics, and so miserable a coincidence!
  15. brigadier
    brigadier 21 March 2018 13: 12
    +2
    Does this mean that already in 2007 in Israel they “guessed” that Syria would be chosen by international terrorists as a testing ground?

    Paranoia. Not treated.
  16. Radikal
    Radikal 21 March 2018 13: 12
    +8
    Israel: If it were not for our attack on the atomic reactor in the SAR, it would eventually have seized the IG *
    Ahhh, purely Jewish showers: "Sorry - we stole your slippers so that others would not steal them! wassat tongue
    1. KonoGon
      KonoGon 21 March 2018 14: 32
      +6
      Quote: Radikal
      Ahhh, purely Jewish showers: "Sorry - we stole your slippers so that others would not steal them!
      If it weren’t for us in Crimea, there would have been a Nata.
  17. flicker
    flicker 21 March 2018 13: 18
    +7
    From the material:
    It is terrible to imagine what would happen if the object were in the hands of ISIS *.
    Does this mean that already in 2007 in Israel they “guessed” that Syria would be chosen by international terrorists as a testing ground?
    Yeah, the amazing insight of the Israeli leadership yes
    Interestingly, they also guessed about the Holocaust? And in general, is the Holocaust an accident or a project? If a project, then whose?
    1. Dimachrus
      Dimachrus 21 March 2018 13: 51
      +1
      And along the way, there’s another question - in a certain country there are reactors that are prone to accidents due to inconsistency of fuel assemblies, plus fans of the ideas of nationalists (who actively destroyed the God-chosen ones) can carry out terrorist attacks on these reactors - the question is, Israel is ready to destroy them as well or - “for not ours borders "?
      And I also want to clarify with knowledgeable people - is it worth neighboring countries to destroy these potentially dangerous facilities?
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 21 March 2018 15: 12
      +3
      The Holocaust-killing of European Jews by the Nazis, brought to power by American Jews.
      1. Korax71
        Korax71 21 March 2018 16: 32
        +1
        There are links to historical documents ??? if not, then this is either an empty idle talk, or conspiracy thesis. hi
        1. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 21 March 2018 20: 34
          +2
          Here about it quite a lot
          https://topwar.ru/23598-kto-privel-gitlera-k-vlas
          ti.html
          http://maxpark.com/community/13/content/3423127
          Due to the fact that the annual payments of reparations went to cover the amount of debts paid by the Allies, the so-called absurd Weimar circle formed. Gold, which Germany paid in the form of military reparations, was sold, pledged and disappeared in the United States, from where it returned to Germany in the form of help according to the plan, which gave it to England and France, and they, in turn, paid them the US military debt. The latter, having overlaid it with interest, again sent it to Germany. As a result, everyone in Germany lived on credit, and it was clear that if Wall Street withdrew its loans, the country would go bankrupt.
          Although formally loans were issued to ensure payments, it was actually about restoring the country's military-industrial potential. The fact is that the Germans paid for loans with shares of enterprises, so that American capital began to actively integrate into the German economy. The total amount of foreign investment in German industry for 1924-1929 amounted to almost 63 billion gold marks (30 billion accounted for loans), and reparations - 10 billion marks. 70% of financial income was provided by US bankers, most of them by J.P. Morgan banks. As a result, already in 1929, German industry came out on the second place in the world, but to a large extent it was in the hands of leading American financial and industrial groups.

          So, I.G. Farbenindustri, this main supplier of the German military machine, who financed Hitler’s election campaign in 45 by 1930%, was controlled by Rockefeller Standard Oil. The Morgan through General Electric controlled the German radio and electrical industry represented by the AEG and Siemens (by 1933 30% of the AEG shares belonged to General Electric), through the ITT communications company - 40% of the German telephone network, in addition, they owned 30% of the aircraft manufacturing company Focke-Wulf. Over Opel was established control by General Motors, owned by the Dupont family. Henry Ford controlled a 100% stake in Volkswagen. In 1926, with the participation of the Rockefeller Bank, Dilon Reed and Co., the second largest industrial monopoly of Germany emerged after I.G. Farbenindustrii - metallurgical concern Fereinigte Stahlwerke (Steel Trust) Thyssen, Flick, Wolf and Fegler and others.

          American cooperation with the German military-industrial complex was so intense and pervasive that by 1933, key sectors of German industry and such large banks as Deutsche Bank, Dresdner Bank, Donat Bank and others were under the control of American financial capital.

          At the same time, that political force was being prepared, which was called upon to play a decisive role in the implementation of the Anglo-American plans. It is about financing the Nazi party and personally A. Hitler.
          1. Korax71
            Korax71 21 March 2018 20: 53
            0
            Well then what about the USSR you didn’t lay out? About the supply of strategically important raw materials? About joint production. The same merikos after 39 didn’t help that much. And you are a little confusing private capital and state. And about coming to power, at that time the people of Germany I was even ready to vote for Satan, just to prevent the Communists from coming to power. England, the USA, and the USSR are to blame for the appearance of Comrade Hitler. but it’s all one-sided. request
            1. Incvizitor
              Incvizitor 22 March 2018 00: 52
              0
              “In September 1931, Hitler asked Carter [the representative of the Morgan group - S. L.] what kind of subsidy the Nazis could count on in the future. In order to give a comprehensive answer, Carter convened a new meeting, which, in addition to the participants in the July 1929 meeting, was also attended by Bank of England Director Montague Norman and Asian Petroleum Co. representative Angell, who was then in the United States. During the meeting, Aldrich, Carter and Wedge touted Hitler's party as the only "real force" in Germany, Hitler as a “strong man” able to prevent chaos and revolution. The meeting participants authorized Warburg to meet again with Hitler and inform him of the increase in financial assistance to the Nazi party.

              During a subsequent meeting, which took place in Hitler's private residence in Berlin, the latter developed his plans for a seizure of power in front of an American banker. Apparently, these plans met with full approval of the American monopolies, because during the subsequent negotiations that Warburg conducted with prominent representatives of the fascist party - Goering, Streicher, Heidt, Lutgebrunn and Gregor Strasser - was agreed transfer of a new subsidy of $ 15 million to the Hitler party In the fall of 1931, for the purpose of conspiracy, the transfer of this amount was carried out in three stages - through the aforementioned Mendelssohn bank in Amsterdam, Bankfereinigung in Rotterdam and the Bank of Italy in Rome. By the end of 1931, the amount of financial assistance provided to the Nazis by the Royal Dutch-Shell concern increased five-six times. In total, for the years 1923-1933, it amounted to $ 50-60 million.

              What about Stalin? request
  18. Nikolay Fedorov
    Nikolay Fedorov 21 March 2018 13: 22
    +2
    From the material:
    It is terrible to imagine what would happen if the object were in the hands of ISIS *.

    Does this mean that already in 2007 in Israel they “guessed” that Syria would be chosen by international terrorists as a testing ground?

    It only means that people with poor memory and analytical thinking write articles in RIA-Novosti. As far back as September 2001, 5-7 days after the terrorist attack on the Pentagon, a "plan for the development of democracy" was presented around the world: Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, Egypt. I am sure that ISIL development plans were developed at the same time. Surely they knew something in Israel.
  19. Artem Golovin
    Artem Golovin 21 March 2018 13: 35
    +2
    Quote: brigadir
    Yeah, and if there would have been a timely strike on the IS by the Israelis, they would not have even reached this reactor.

    And why is IS worse for Israel than Assad?

    Just amazing) Well, for Hitler, the Jews were no better than the IG in this case! What have you been rushing around the world for 70 years and whining then? I consider the topic of the genocide of the Jews in this closed!
    1. brigadier
      brigadier 21 March 2018 14: 13
      +5
      Well, for Hitler, the Jews were no better than IS in that case!

      You have problems, and serious ones with causal relationships.
      Is Hitler fought with the Jews?
  20. Palagecha
    Palagecha 21 March 2018 13: 36
    0
    And if there hadn’t been Israel, then there wouldn’t have been too much ... So, it’s necessary to strike at them too, otherwise someone will capture them ...
  21. high
    high 21 March 2018 13: 46
    +3
    Does this mean that already in 2007 in Israel they “guessed” that Syria would be chosen by international terrorists as a testing ground?[i] [/ i]
    Syria, Iran, Hezbollah - these are the same terrorists as the IG.
    After the coup, dictators of the Assad family rule in Syria.
    Pope Assad suppressed the uprising of the population forty years ago, having bombed the city and destroyed about 40.000 Syrians.
    Today, for the Arab world and Israel: Iran with Syria and Hezbollah are terrorists.
    By the way, the Soviet Union also considered Hezbollah to be terrorists when they abducted Soviet diplomats by killing one of them.
    1. Hariton laptev
      Hariton laptev 21 March 2018 14: 00
      +5
      who gave Israel the right to strike at a sovereign state ?? On what basis? They will answer me now to ensure their own safety. But the danger from which Israel defends itself is posed by Israel itself. A simple example is the seizure of Palestinian lands. And how many wars has Israel waged over the years of its existence not on its territory ??? and were there wars in Israel ??? Why is this state not a terrorist ??
      So say that all actions are dictated by the law of power and the full support of the Jewish clique from overseas. And the terrorists are not Syria and not Iran but the USA, Israel, "Britain" from the great one word is left., And the rest are a gang of hangers-on.
      1. high
        high 21 March 2018 14: 06
        +4
        Israel and Syria are at war for decades ...
        A simple example is the seizure of the Palestinian lands. [b] [/ b]
        What lands captured? Israel is Palestine.
        1. Nikolay Fedorov
          Nikolay Fedorov 21 March 2018 15: 02
          +2
          Quote: alta
          Israel and Syria are at war for decades ...
          A simple example is the seizure of the Palestinian lands. [b] [/ b]
          What lands captured? Israel is Palestine.

          And you did not capture the Palestinian part of Jerusalem? She herself said to you: "I want to be the only city and capital of Israel"?
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 21 March 2018 18: 26
            +3
            Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
            Quote: alta
            Israel and Syria are at war for decades ...
            A simple example is the seizure of the Palestinian lands. [b] [/ b]
            What lands captured? Israel is Palestine.

            And you did not capture the Palestinian part of Jerusalem? She herself said to you: "I want to be the only city and capital of Israel"?

            Excuse me, but what is this "Palestinian part of Jerusalem"? what
          2. KonoGon
            KonoGon 21 March 2018 18: 39
            +3
            Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
            And you didn’t capture the Palestinian part of Jerusalem?
            She tada was Jordanian. Mustache questions for Jordan. For example, why are you such Jordanians, who owned East Jerusalem from 1948 to 1967, didn’t announce it to Palestine (did you know that a star?)? Dare, it will be interesting to listen to the answer.
      2. brigadier
        brigadier 21 March 2018 14: 16
        +5
        And how many wars Israel waged over the years of its existence not on its territory

        From the coastal city in which I live to the Palestinian territories - 16 kilometers. What kind of wars on its territory are we talking about? Which territories? Have you ever seen a map of the Middle East? Find Israel, try it.
      3. Korax71
        Korax71 21 March 2018 15: 21
        +1
        Well, in 94, there were no terrorist attacks or terrorists in Chechnya; they were introduced to restore order. recourse
    2. XXXIII
      XXXIII 21 March 2018 14: 24
      +1
      Quote: alta
      Does this mean that already in 2007 in Israel they “guessed” that Syria would be chosen by international terrorists as a testing ground?[i] [/ i]
      Syria, Iran, Hisbollah - they are the same terrorists as the IG.
      After the coup, dictators of the Assad family rule in Syria.
      Pope Assad suppressed the uprising of the population forty years ago, having bombed the city and destroyed about 40.000 Syrians.
      Today, for the Arab world and Israel: Iran with Syria and Hezbollah are terrorists.
      By the way, the Soviet Union also considered Hezbollah to be terrorists when they abducted Soviet diplomats by killing one of them.

      Israel dad "ig" then, feeds, dresses, treats, guardian angel some bearded yes ..... Forgot to mention Turkey, also probably terrorists .... laughing Well, the neighbor got BV ..... lol
      ps The American soap bubble, but an Arab saber will cut it .... tongue
    3. Korax71
      Korax71 21 March 2018 15: 26
      +4
      And you are particularly zealous in the comments discard the Iranian constitution, a small green book of Khomeini, let them study. recourse crying
  22. Artem Golovin
    Artem Golovin 21 March 2018 14: 05
    +4
    Quote: alta
    Does this mean that already in 2007 in Israel they “guessed” that Syria would be chosen by international terrorists as a testing ground?[i] [/ i]
    Syria, Iran, Hezbollah - these are the same terrorists as the IG.
    After the coup, dictators of the Assad family rule in Syria.
    Pope Assad suppressed the uprising of the population forty years ago, having bombed the city and destroyed about 40.000 Syrians.
    Today, for the Arab world and Israel: Iran with Syria and Hezbollah are terrorists.
    By the way, the Soviet Union also considered Hezbollah to be terrorists when they abducted Soviet diplomats by killing one of them.

    Terror (Latin terror "fear, horror") - intimidation of political opponents by means of physical violence [1]. Terror also refers to the threat of physical violence for political or any other reasons, or intimidation with the threat of violence or murder
    Terrorism is a policy based on the systematic use of terror [1] [2] [3]. Despite the legal force of the term "terrorism", its definition up to the present time remains ambiguous [4]. The problem is how to limit the definition of terrorism so that it does not cover the acts of legitimate freedom fighters.
    But to me, for example, like the Syrians and Iranians, Israel seems quite a terrorist state. The question is where to look. So do not even raise this topic !!
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  24. Romanenko
    Romanenko 21 March 2018 14: 09
    +5
    And if Israel didn’t arm the states and ordered to harbor or prepare ISIS fighters on its territory, then even theoretically there would be no one to capture an atomic object.
    And then barked about their usefulness, vultures!
  25. Artem Golovin
    Artem Golovin 21 March 2018 14: 10
    +3
    The only thing that genuinely respects respect is how the Jews raised the issue of genocide during the Second World War: the Slavs were destroyed an order of magnitude more, but we could not pull together and demand ... and the Jews were even able to match the definition of the Holocaust for themselves, and they write it with a capital X.
    Well, drip irrigation is also cool)))
  26. -ш-
    -ш- 21 March 2018 14: 19
    +1
    tales of another moishe
  27. KonoGon
    KonoGon 21 March 2018 14: 36
    +5
    Oh, and bombed, and tady now.
    The Iraq Akbar newspaper writes: “Israel warns that the bombing of the Syrian reactor is a warning to the entire region in order to learn lessons for the future,”
  28. bsk_una
    bsk_una 21 March 2018 14: 37
    +4
    He is a Jew and a Jew in Africa. They cannot be normal people, they want to be the mistress of the sea (this is not what I said, Pushkin AS).
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 21 March 2018 15: 10
      +5
      "They can not be normal people, they want to be mistress of the sea" ////

      I liked it - the test +! Straight, Zhvanetsky, in kind laughing drinks
      1. Maz
        Maz 22 March 2018 10: 25
        0
        From Toko, Arabs kill someone every day, terrorist attack, after the terrorist attack. They probably have shoto against the "mistresses of the sea". Terror however.
    2. brigadier
      brigadier 21 March 2018 17: 33
      +3
      The ancient Kirghiz did not know about the existence of the Jews, and therefore all
      troubles occurring with them were attributed to the dark forces of nature ...
      By the way, Pushkin is an Ethiopian Jew. His grandfather was Abram and grandmother Sarah.
  29. Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 21 March 2018 15: 01
    +2
    Aircraft AWACS and control Gulfstream G550 Nachshon Eitam 122nd squadron of the Israeli Air Force, the other day over Jordan. Prepares an "Iranian" target bank in southern Syria for 300+ km. inland?
    1. Maz
      Maz 22 March 2018 10: 22
      0
      Yes, we are in the know - added air defense missiles, systems and electronic warfare systems
  30. bumerang.
    bumerang. 21 March 2018 15: 24
    0
    Finally, I realized who intervened in the US presidential election and framed Russia. They shout about Russians there, but only Israel was profitable, since Trump is doing everything for Israel now. I don’t think that Clinton or other candidates took care of Israel as Trump does. And now attacks on Russia / Putin, it is only because he helps Syria. Britain, because of spy poisoning, such a wave has risen, is it really so important for them? And all these setups in Syria, that because of them, Trump fired at Syria.
    1. high
      high 21 March 2018 15: 43
      +2
      Believing Christian Presidents of the United States and Russia have always supported and support Israel, they know that the Jews gave the world Jesus Christ and the 12 Apostles.
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 21 March 2018 17: 11
        0
        Quote: alta
        Believing Christian Presidents of the United States and Russia have always supported and support Israel, they know that the Jews gave the world Jesus Christ and the 12 Apostles.
        This is when it was, where are the new ones ??? laughing
        1. brigadier
          brigadier 21 March 2018 17: 34
          +3
          This is when it was, where are the new ones ??? laughing

          New only for very extra money.
        2. Shahno
          Shahno 21 March 2018 17: 41
          +2
          We work, but you are helping us poorly.
          1. XXXIII
            XXXIII 21 March 2018 20: 02
            0
            Quote: Shahno
            We work, but you are helping us poorly.

            Quote: brigadir
            This is when it was, where are the new ones ??? laughing

            New only for very extra money.

            Maybe you will take our Cross and 12 apostles, these are authoritative people ....... laughing
      2. Maz
        Maz 22 March 2018 10: 20
        0
        Who gave the world Jesus Christ? The Jews? But why did he pray in Aramaic, think and speak? Was it not a Jewish court that proposed the execution of Yeshua, and confirmed the sentence by sending it to the Roman governor?
  31. high
    high 21 March 2018 15: 25
    +1
    Quote: Artem Golovin
    The only thing that genuinely respects respect is how the Jews raised the issue of genocide during the Second World War: the Slavs were destroyed an order of magnitude more, but we could not pull together and demand ... and the Jews were even able to match the definition of the Holocaust for themselves, and they write it with a capital X.
    Well, drip irrigation is also cool)))

    Conscience must be written this nonsense, the Nazis killed 6 million Jews because they were Jews .... during the captivity of 600 thousand Soviet military groups defending Kiev, the Nazis primarily shot Jewish soldiers.
    When the Nazis bombed the city they didn’t care who was there: Russians, Germans, Kazakhs ....
    By the way, about 1.2 million citizens of the Soviets fought on Hitler’s side, but there were no Jews among them.
    Why don’t you, anti-Semite, pay attention that Israel, perhaps the only country in the West, has not imposed economic sanctions on Russia, but continues to transfer modern technology.
    1. Artem Golovin
      Artem Golovin 21 March 2018 16: 18
      +1
      Well, yes, yes, yes ... I kicked the Russian - freedom of speech, kicked the Jew - anti-Semite. I know .... passed) He said, I admire your ability to separate the genocide of your people into a separate genocide. It is a pity that the Russians (in the broad sense of the word) could not. Or did Hitler not set out to destroy the Russians at 0 .... like the Jews? So respect and respect. And do not blame me here for anti-Semitism - it is ugly. I am friends with the Jews, but I don’t like your government’s policy towards the IS! I have the right? Or is your right above mine?
    2. Artem Golovin
      Artem Golovin 21 March 2018 16: 40
      +1
      Do you have any questions on drip irrigation? I also admire your medicine with kibbutzim. You have a lot of good. And thanks for the restrained sanctions policy .... whatever it is caused: even if your basic benefit ... you also need to have eggs that the Europeans did not have. So no offense!
    3. Shahno
      Shahno 21 March 2018 18: 06
      +2
      Do not be offended by them. Just forgive me. The prophets are waiting for us ...
  32. dojjdik
    dojjdik 21 March 2018 15: 42
    +1
    so in Israel it’s not what they knew and are the creators of this very “igil”, well, for us mere mortals, but in fact each “20” - yeah, remember Afghan and Pakistani ear-jackets fighting for Jewish money — has its own sphere of influence; dictator netanyahu very always carefully watched Damascus with binoculars
    1. Korax71
      Korax71 21 March 2018 16: 39
      +3
      You, so as not to be unfounded, please, cite a link that we all looked and rendered reproach to the damned Jews. request we're not England, let's be consistent yes
  33. Old26
    Old26 21 March 2018 16: 46
    +4
    Previously, such information was published in various media with reference to unnamed sources. However, Israel officially did not confirm this information. As not confirmed information about the creation of a nuclear reactor Syria.

    Well, Israel has always adhered to the principles of never answering anything. However, "unnamed sources" are too "strong." Most often, unnamed sources imply a short note. Publications on this subject at the beginning of this decade cannot be called a short note by unnamed sources. Now I can’t say for sure. on a computer in the archive this publication is, but this is the publication of 100 pages at least in PDF format with a huge number of photos. And not only on them is a "rectangular" building, shot with the lens of the optical system of a fighter. These are photographs of construction, and photographs (rather specific) of the knowledge itself, and large-diameter pipelines of the cooling system that were stretched from the nearest source (river) and much more. Photos of some "specialists". who provided technical advice to the Syrians. And with slanting eyes. The second photograph of this specialist was in uniform ....

    Does this mean that already in 2007 in Israel they “guessed” that Syria would be chosen by international terrorists as a testing ground?

    Unlikely. As a testing ground, so to speak, it was chosen by completely different ones. To have such an object not only in its territory. But the fact that in the days of ISIS, this facility, if it was launched, would become a headache for many countries, including and ours - it’s definitely ...
    And further. I'm afraid to make a mistake, but EMNIP took part in the raid not 4 F-16, but a larger number of cars. Four F-16s, or rather F-16Is, were not the only group, but only distracting. The main work was performed by F-15I. But I can’t say 100%, I'm afraid to make a mistake. Even, as far as I remember, there was a calculation of which cars from which base rose

    Quote: figvam
    They admitted that since 2007 they began to destroy Syria.

    Well, the Jews were always famous for calculating the consequences for themselves and, if necessary, inflicting preventive strikes. Both the Iraqi nuclear reactor at one time and the "shoe factory" in Syria
    As a result, one well-known country did not receive the uncontrolled production of "yellow cake" outside its territory.

    Quote: shinobi
    And if there was a reactor? If there was, then the entire area around should be contaminated by 15-20 kilometers, and downwind by 150-500 km. The radiation should be ten times higher than the background and will be detected by satellites until now. Jews have protected themselves, this It’s understandable, but to talk about non-distribution only to them, and after the recent events with Korea, nuclear weapons will strive to have everything, because in practice this is the only guarantee of independence from the West.

    Yes, if it was loaded and worked. But he didn’t work at that time, although as far as I remember from publications the materials for downloading were already imported.
    And why only from the west will nuclear weapons be the guarantor of independence? For example, the nuclear weapons of the Georgian armed forces may also be the guarantor of Georgia’s independence from Russia. Or Estonian ... Since this is a guarantee of independence - let everyone have it
  34. Nikolay Slavetsky
    Nikolay Slavetsky 21 March 2018 17: 28
    0
    I’m touching, It’s such a shameless thing ,,, but, by the way, what’s there ,,,, Who, as they say, remembers the old, ,, and so on, Allaverds should be, To the maximum, So that it penetrates to the very liver, Where , say, they have a nuclear nest egg, in Dimona? And to shake this very Dimona with 10 points on the Richter scale? bare fillet of the body, Then we laugh,
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 21 March 2018 17: 56
      +2
      You naively think that only in Dimon. Desert .. Recently Musk came to bargain with the BB for the Negev. He says give us the Negev, and we will give you solar energy. What do you think our prime minister answered? Well, then, Ilon and nightclubs did not disregard .... Ignited in full.
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 21 March 2018 18: 42
        0
        Quote: Shahno
        Just recently, Musk came to bargain with BB for the Negev. He says give us the Negev, and we give you solar energy.

        Well, that's all, Khan Mask, "Hevrat Hashmal" that he will not let go of it with his hands! wassat
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 21 March 2018 18: 57
          +2
          Quote: Dym71
          Quote: Shahno
          Just recently, Musk came to bargain with BB for the Negev. He says give us the Negev, and we give you solar energy.

          Well, that's all, Khan Mask, "Hevrat Hashmal" that he will not let go of it with his hands! wassat

          On the contrary, “Hevrat Hashmal” will be very happy about it. Firstly, it is she who buys all the electricity generated by solar batteries, and then redirects it to the network. Secondly, all alternative electricity providers use Hevrat Hashmal infrastructure. For this she has state subsidies. Do you think that some separate cables, wires, etc. are laid?
          1. Dym71
            Dym71 21 March 2018 19: 08
            +1
            Quote: A. Privalov
            Do you think that some separate cables, wires, etc. are laid?

            I am absolutely sure that the generation of huge new capacities will require the construction of a new infrastructure for the distribution and transmission of electricity throughout the country.
            And in the shade of solar panels, you can plant strawberries! wink
            1. karish
              karish 21 March 2018 19: 22
              +1
              Quote: Dym71
              I am absolutely sure that the generation of huge new capacities will require the construction of a new infrastructure for the distribution and transmission of electricity throughout the country.

              solar energy (for now) is not a huge power.
              If this reaches the level of hundreds of megawatts, then of course it will be required, but not much.
              For a simple reason - electricity cannot be produced for future use.
              The existing infrastructure is quite sufficient for the level of modern Israeli consumption.
              And what generation to connect does not play a role.
              The bottom line is that Israel does not export electricity. There is no one.
              Therefore, by connecting the solar generation, it will be necessary to extinguish automatically - well, let's say TPP on coal.
              Quote: Dym71
              And in the shade of solar panels, you can plant strawberries!

              in the Negev? belay
              1. Dym71
                Dym71 21 March 2018 19: 36
                +2
                Quote: karish
                solar energy (for now) is not a huge power.

                It seems to me that Musk did not come for a dozen megawatts.
                Quote: karish
                For a simple reason - electricity cannot be produced for future use.

                Musk will hook you on his batteries, he might just get a carte blanche. smile
                Quote: karish
                in the Negev?

                And why is it that, with your skill and on Mars, apple trees will bloom! good
                1. karish
                  karish 21 March 2018 19: 48
                  +1
                  Quote: Dym71
                  It seems to me that Musk did not come for a dozen megawatts.

                  I don’t think that was the purpose of his visit.
                  Israel has enough electricity production on gas turbines (as well as gas) - yesterday one coal-fired thermal power plant was put into reserve.
                  Gas production at 70%, over is simply strategically dangerous.
                  Once again I say, if this is not a solar power plant with mirrors and a coolant (usually molten salt), then today the rest is bullshit.
                  maybe solar panels are very dependent on the level of illumination, weather, etc.
                  They are not a reliable supplier, their efficiency varies greatly depending on the season and time of day.
                  As a large generator, there are no such stations and probably will not (with us)
                  I repeat once again, we have nowhere to go for excess generation and it turns out that with an increase in the daily efficiency of the solar panel (and, accordingly, an increase in its generation), other generating capacities are required to be removed.
                  With hrenase do this? If solar energy is more expensive than gas and especially coal?


                  Quote: Dym71
                  Musk hooks you on his batteries, he might just get a carte blanche

                  If energy stores are created, then yes.
                  But everything depends on the price - it will be cheaper kW /. HOUR - why not.
                  There is no talk about it yet
                  Quote: Dym71
                  And why is it that, with your skill and on Mars, apple trees will bloom!

                  It certainly can be, only who will pay for this banquet? wink
                  1. Shahno
                    Shahno 21 March 2018 20: 00
                    +1
                    Of course it will be cheaper. But at the same time Barzilai will cope with the problems. Pulmonary diseases and resp. ways.
                    1. karish
                      karish 21 March 2018 20: 07
                      +1
                      Quote: Shahno
                      Of course it will be cheaper

                      Well, when it will be - then we'll talk.
                      It's too early to talk about it yet
                      About pulmonary diseases. Statistics is a crafty thing. They started talking about this exactly when Tshuva found gas and decided to build his gas stations.
                      Maor David (coal-fired thermal power station) stands near Caesarea wink and nothing - this does not prevent all millionaires and above (including Bibi) from living there
              2. Shahno
                Shahno 21 March 2018 19: 39
                +1
                Well, not in the Negev. Not seriously, but. Thin is the thing. In kibbutzim is growing.
          2. karish
            karish 21 March 2018 19: 18
            +2
            Quote: A. Privalov
            On the contrary, Hevrat Hashmal will be very happy about this. Firstly, it’s she who buys all the electricity generated by solar panels,

            H. Hashmal is not very happy about this, as she is forced to buy solar generation at a price higher than the sale price.
            The government demanded it
            Quote: A. Privalov
            Secondly, all alternative electricity providers use the Hevrat Hashmal infrastructure.

            Free (today)
            True, after the commissioning of industrial solar stations (one of them is being built in the Negev), this will of course be changed, as will the tariff for the purchase of solar energy.
            In general, the energy sector does not bring anything apart from the problems of the electric company.
            shopping mall is not an uninterrupted energy supplier, and the electric company holds reserve capacities to cover everything

            Quote: A. Privalov
            For this she has state subsidies.

            Your words - yes to God’s ears.
            While the difference between buying and selling, we cover from our own funds.
            1. Dym71
              Dym71 21 March 2018 19: 43
              0
              Quote: karish
              While the difference between buying and selling, we cover from our own funds.

              Oh yo yo, orphans! crying
              You ceased to transfer posts by inheritance? smile
            2. Shahno
              Shahno 21 March 2018 19: 43
              +1
              Anyway. The BB will accept the services of the Mask .... Hevrat Hashmal will have to negotiate and enter into an agreement. In order not to lose the market. Which will increase investments in alternative energy. The ice has broken ....
              1. Dym71
                Dym71 21 March 2018 19: 53
                0
                Quote: Shahno
                The ice has broken ....

                The case for the ice ax by Hevrat Hashmal bully
                1. karish
                  karish 21 March 2018 20: 01
                  +2
                  Quote: Dym71
                  Quote: Shahno
                  The ice has broken ....

                  The case for the ice ax by Hevrat Hashmal bully

                  There is experience. Remember Gapon?
                  Founder Hevrat Hashmal - Pinchas (Peter) Rutenberg
                  28 March 1906 year George Gapon left St. Petersburg by the Finland railway and did not return. According to the workers, he went on a business meeting with a representative of the Socialist Revolutionary Party [88]. Leaving, Gapon did not take with him either things or weapons, and promised to return in the evening. The workers were worried if any misfortune had happened to him [34]. In mid-April, newspapers reported that Gapon was killed by a member of the Socialist Revolutionary Party Peter Rutenberg[89]. It was reported that Gapon was strangled by a rope and his corpse hangs in one of the empty cottages near St. Petersburg
                  1. Dym71
                    Dym71 21 March 2018 20: 26
                    0
                    Quote: karish
                    There is experience. Remember Gapon?
                    Founder Hevrat Hashmal - Pinchas (Peter) Rutenberg

                    Rutenberg didn’t get Gapon himself, but with the hands of his party comrades, so you need to throw lots in H. Hashmal in a quiet way, and start preparing for the Mask (habits, weaknesses of character, etc.) wassat
              2. karish
                karish 21 March 2018 19: 58
                +1
                Quote: Shahno
                Anyway. The BB will accept the services of the Mask .... Hevrat Hashmal will have to negotiate and enter into an agreement.

                I’m not sure if this does not reduce the cost of kW / h, then of course no one will accept such an agreement
                Quote: Shahno
                In order not to lose the market

                What market? You are probably not quite in the subject of the method of distribution and transmission of electric energy and energy system management
                Quote: Shahno
                Which will increase investment in alternative energy. The ice has broken ....

                I say again, Israel is not the United States, the EU or Russia - where you can pump excess electricity in the pursuit of daylight hours or export to other countries.
                All electricity generated in Israel is within its borders.
                It is not possible to produce more electricity than is currently required and in reserve as well.
                Therefore, what additional generating capacities can be discussed without the issue of increasing electricity consumption.
                Or do you think someone is building a station and sitting and waiting - today they will turn it on - tomorrow - no?
                1. Shahno
                  Shahno 21 March 2018 21: 09
                  +1
                  Not. You just don’t see tomorrow. And thoughts ... Well then? Rejoice.
      2. Nikolay Slavetsky
        Nikolay Slavetsky 21 March 2018 20: 35
        0
        Dear, I mean the underground storage of nuclear weapons,
    2. KonoGon
      KonoGon 21 March 2018 18: 07
      +1
      Quote: Nikolai Slavetsky
      Allaverds
      And what, they bombed the Russians there to smithereens? I thought the Syrians and Koreans. northern.
      1. Nikolay Slavetsky
        Nikolay Slavetsky 21 March 2018 20: 27
        0
        And you, dear, do not think, it is sometimes useful, you better ,,, observe,
  35. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 21 March 2018 18: 04
    +4
    Does this mean that already in 2007 in Israel they “guessed” that Syria would be chosen by international terrorists as a testing ground?
    This phrase is a bad journalistic trick. He instantly translates the main message of the article into a completely different direction.
    Does this mean that already in 1967 in Israel they “guessed” that Syria would be chosen by international terrorists as a testing ground? They then, even then, took the Golan Heights from Syria for constant shelling. I can imagine what could be happening with us if the bandits were there now! From the Golan, you can get long-range to Haifa, and to Safed in general, 15 kilometers ...
    By the way, Israel, at the time, provided the United States with information on the construction of a reactor in Syria: this happened during the visit of the then Secretary of Defense Robert Gates. Amir Peretz acquainted his colleague with the intelligence that led Gates to amazement. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert later suggested to George Bush that the Pentagon conduct an operation to destroy the reactor under construction. However, Olmert’s proposal was not supported by George W. Bush. He referred to the fact that the USA has too often been involved in wars lately, and offered to solve the problem of the Syrian reactor by diplomatic methods, but has not taken any steps to do so. After that, the head of the Israeli government informed the head of the White House about the intention of Jerusalem to solve the problem on its own. Not having received a clear answer, Israel solved the problem itself.
    Avigdor Lieberman, our Minister of Defense, headed the Ministry of Strategic Planning in 2007 and was part of a narrow security cabinet, commented on the publication of information about the destruction of a nuclear reactor by Israel in Syria in 2007:
    "Now you can tell about what decision was taken by the cabinet in 2007 year. There were those who actively advocated for the operation, there were those who were hesitant. A bold historical decision that we made proved that there was no defense of national security places of restraint. It is necessary to follow national interests, to make decisions, and when it is necessary - to act. "


    Lieberman added that "the motivation of our enemies has increased markedly in recent years, but the strength of the IDF has also grown." "The potential of the Air Force and the capabilities of our intelligence services have increased and expanded compared to 2007 year, and everyone in the Middle East should learn this."
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 21 March 2018 18: 53
      0
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Does this mean that already in 2007 in Israel they “guessed” that Syria would be chosen by international terrorists as a testing ground?
      This phrase is a bad journalistic trick

      There is such a thing, I agree with you, not only that sticky-vile kind of. An unscrupulous type wrote these lines - Russians do not. hi
  36. Old26
    Old26 21 March 2018 19: 40
    +1
    Quote: KonoGon
    And what, they bombed the Russians there to smithereens? I thought the Syrians and Koreans. northern.

    good 100% hit on target. I specifically did not name the country in my post. Although the one who follows such events usually knows. Bravo!!!
    1. KonoGon
      KonoGon 22 March 2018 09: 50
      0
      100% hit on target.
      Dear, do you mean that "Nikolai Slavetsky" is either a Syrian or a Korean? northern. hi
  37. APASUS
    APASUS 21 March 2018 20: 08
    0
    Now, if the Jews bombed Washington, but with high probability there would have been no ISIS, ISIS, wars in Syria and Iraq, Yugoslavia and Libya.
    So the logic is, well, just super iron!
  38. Radikal
    Radikal 21 March 2018 22: 04
    0
    Quote: flicker
    From the material:
    It is terrible to imagine what would happen if the object were in the hands of ISIS *.
    Does this mean that already in 2007 in Israel they “guessed” that Syria would be chosen by international terrorists as a testing ground?
    Yeah, the amazing insight of the Israeli leadership yes
    Interestingly, they also guessed about the Holocaust? And in general, is the Holocaust an accident or a project? If a project, then whose?

    According to one American historian - them!
  39. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 21 March 2018 22: 13
    +2
    The impudence of Israel crosses all borders !!!
  40. Maz
    Maz 22 March 2018 10: 15
    0
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: dog breeder
    You are right, God forbid, to have a neighbor like Israel! After all, he knew that ISIS would appear, and did not warn!

    Even if I knew, I would not have warned. What for?

    Israel warned for free? Really "why"!
  41. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 23 March 2018 17: 50
    0
    KonoGon,
    Like all Nazis

    Here I have a Jewish friend, a real Nazi from the right sector, serving in the beginning. They used to be friends, but in 2014 he promised to kill me and my family. The president of Ukraine is a Jew, and at the same time a Nazi who kills civilians.

    So who is the liar and the Nazi now?
    1. KonoGon
      KonoGon 25 March 2018 16: 56
      0
      Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
      who is a liar and a nazi
      Definitely you. Your friend, what kind of Jew is he? Who told you that? And even if he is a Jewish radish (Check yourself why he promised to kill you and your family) you automatically broadcast his hostility to all Jews, then you are anti-Semite. How is it because of you to call everyone (do you know the whale there, Arab?) Anti-Semites and liars. President of Ukraine - what side of wine is a Jew? No. So you are lying. Q.E.D. Antisemite and a liar.