Is there no limit? US national debt set a new record

United States government debt for the first time in stories crossed the mark in 21 trillion dollars.

"The volume of US government debt on 15 in March of the current year amounted to 21 trillion 31 billion dollars", - leads RIA News a message published on the website of the American Ministry of Finance.

The mark in 20 trillions was passed in September 2017 of the year.

The agency notes that during the eight years of the presidency of Barack Obama, the United States national debt has almost doubled.

The current president, Donald Trump, as you know, has repeatedly stated that the country needs to reduce the amount of debt. However, recently I had to agree with its growth due to the “growing social obligations of the administration within the budget”. During his tenure as the new head of the White House, the national debt increased by $ 1,1 trillion.

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[poquello]

Gee, and the world is waving.

[Logall]

"The volume of US government debt on March 15 this year amounted to 21 trillion 31 billion dollars"

I wonder what the States are hoping for? Perhaps they will “break” Russia and receive an unprecedented superiority of forces in their direction, that debts can not be repaid?
As long as we see the opposite: Russia is gaining ground, positions around the world are only strengthening. Learned, following their own interests, to repulse the United States.
Among other things, China, India are "growing" ... Which are also not averse to opposing US hegemony.
Will America go all-in?

[Teberii]

You can not pay, but you still have to pay.

[GRF]

Quote: Teberii

You can not pay, but you still have to pay.

Yeah, to the world, for the good life of Americans. Be equal
For inflation and denomination will solve the sheriff’s problem ...
What about the Indians? The Indians will continue to feed the sheriff for, perhaps, other virtual zeroes ... For changing a bag of coal to a bag of paper is not comme il faut ...
Attention!
And it’s free, will not, until the sheriff’s club, an empty stomach ...

[poquello]

Quote: Logall

"The volume of US government debt on March 15 this year amounted to 21 trillion 31 billion dollars"

I wonder what the States are hoping for? Perhaps they will “break” Russia and, having received an unprecedented superiority of forces in their favor, decide that they can not repay debts?

I have the impression that they are violet, they print to themselves and print, but there were "Mavrodievka" in mmm and nothing - the fanatics completely treated them

[The black]

Will America go all-in?

The only way to solve their economic problems is to start wars around the world, which, in fact, the United States is doing.

I wonder what the States are hoping for?

Not so simple, Alexander. We are talking about state (government) debt. And they must first of all own Fed., Then China, etc. If necessary, the US government will be able to easily default, saying: "for all obligations, contact the Fed. In fact, all debt is not on the state but on OJSC." So you can easily throw the whole world .... although of course, without consequences for the United States itself the step will not remain.

[Alex-a832]

Quote: Black

So you can easily throw the whole world .... although of course, this step will not remain without consequences for the United States.

I would say catastrophic consequences for the USA. They will go down the standard of living to the country of the 3rd world (or variety), from which they are unaccustomed. Domestic political problems will simply explode from the inside out.

[Simargl]

Quote: Alex-a832

They will go down the standard of living to the country of the 3rd world (or variety), from which they are unaccustomed.

And they had a recent crisis, when %% on the mortgage jumped to about 10% - people howled.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: Black

The only way to solve their economic problems is to start wars around the world, which, in fact, the United States is doing.

Well, there are actually more options ... And they are all completely man-made ...
--- World pandemic of the "unknown virus"
--- World cataclysm (including man-caused)
--- Worldwide failure in communications communications (with subsequent accidents and disasters).
--- "Alien invasion" using any new weapons in the cities
--- The World Climate Anomaly (like a long-term drought followed by the migration of peoples, developing into wars)
---etc.
What can be born in these revolutions in an unhealthy little turtle, only God knows ... But no one is going to give it back. It’s easier to reset the creditor.

[bk316]

Unknown Virus Pandemic

Ugh damn it, you’ll get some more ....
In the early 90's, I computerized the Gabrichevsky Institute.
Then it was the head institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences for especially dangerous viral diseases (read on BO), you can’t imagine how easy it is to arrange a worldwide pandemic. All retains only the indiscrimination of such garbage.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: bk316

Ugh damn, you’re still crap ...

I don’t want it myself.

Quote: bk316

You have no idea how easy it is to create a worldwide pandemic. All retains only the indiscrimination of such garbage.

I imagine, therefore I write.
They can rely on the promises of “scientists” about the safety of shelters and vaccines. To divert their eyes, they also thin out their population (not for nothing that they have stored so many plastic coffins and cartridges for the National Guard).
A virus or chemical weapon can be "long-playing" with a long incubation period and mild symptoms ... and, if it also disguises itself as some kind of seasonal ailment, and interacts with them, then it will be sad ...
A series of all these grips, ebola, swine fever can be just a run-in and analysis of the work of health systems and chemical bacterium units. Defense of different countries. Well, mass vaccinations before the onset of the future flu are generally a fairy tale. Vaccination is worldwide, mandatory, compulsory and universal may be the delivery of biological weapons directly to your home, people will introduce it themselves and all business ...

[forty-eighth]

You have some strange idea of ​​US debt.

And they must first of all own Fed., Then China, etc.

Now you correctly note that the United States owes to the Fed, China and further downward.

the US government will be able to easily default, saying: "For all obligations, contact the Fed. In fact, all debt is not on the state, but on OAO."

But you change the places of the creditor and the debtor and the defendant in debt call the one who gives this very money in debt. This is fundamentally wrong.

[Cube123]

China itself is in debt, as in silk.
http://www.south-insight.com/dolg?language=ru
"Chinese debt exceeded US debt: how stable is the financial system of the "economic miracle"? "
"The total volume of China's total debt is, according to various estimates, up to $ 28 trillion, which already exceeds US foreign debt or Germany. China’s debt is more than 236% of the country's annual GDP. "

[Observer2014]

Logall (Alexander)

Will America go all-in?

Yeah. The color of the papers will change. And that’s it. The biggest bubble in history will burst. Hurry. They are tired of to be honest. Very, very much.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: Observer2014

Yeah. The color of the papers will change. And that’s it. The biggest bubble in history will burst. Hurry. They are tired of to be honest. Very, very much.

The namesake, can you imagine how many green candy wrappers in our country under mattresses ...? If the color changes, howling and crying will be serious ... And I will sit in a rocking chair, in the gazebo, drinking a glass of tea and lazily contemplate the colors of nature .. . I still do not have green.

[Manul]

Quote: Logall

I wonder what the States are hoping for? Perhaps they will “break” Russia and receive an unprecedented superiority of forces in their direction, that debts can not be repaid?

Each courtyard had its own bully who came up and shook five kopecks from the kid, promising to return the type and naturally not returning it. And this bully was counting on fear that no one would ask him. Time passed and this bully either grew up or received a rebuff from the grown-up guys. Even if you imagine the option that the United States will rake in the end, nobody will see the money anyway.

[KAV]

Quote: Manul

Even if you imagine the option that the United States will rake in the end, no one will see the money anyway.

And what is money, in the form of dollars? Just pieces of paper. Nobody will need them. Demand will go in gold and other assets (in territorial, for example).

[Serge Gorely]

The USA in the role of Popandopulo - take the money, I'll draw it for myself. This is ridiculous. But our ministers - economists in the role of Pinocchio (dig your money) is no longer funny.

[Warrior with machine gun]

Hi Sanya, this is pure popandopula - “take it all, I'll draw it for myself” -f. "Wedding in the Robin"))

[Incvizitor]

Will America go all-in?

When this furious dog is driven into a corner, it will be threatened by a nuclear war.

[antivirus]

IN THE MIDDLE OF 80 YEARS, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE "REign" of the MSG - the central district (Druzhinin?)
clear psychological calculation and no fraud
did not mention the words of Reagan - "duty can take care of itself"
still tormented ..
a change in world leader will automatically discount the attractiveness of maintaining good relations with the United States and stop the Amer economy.
AND DR LEADER WILL FEED FROM BENEFITS DEPENDING ON HIS WORLD
reference point --- cm need trade balance China -USA and GDP speech in Munich.

another 10 or 20 years to wait for the collapse of the United States?

[staviator]

Quote: antivirus

another 10 or 20 years to wait for the collapse of the United States?

In 1990, the US debt was 3 trillion, all the "analysts", the press wrote that the states had three or five years left and everything would collapse ... I waited ... Almost 30 years have passed and what? That's how it all remained, except 21 trillion debt. There is such a figure googol a unit with one hundred zeros, which the United States will do if they do not fit into this figure. This is their urgent problem.

[siberalt]

The Americans have learned to live on credit, but they do not write off anyone else's debts.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: siberalt

The Americans have learned to live on credit, but they do not write off anyone else's debts.

Yes, they would have written in the law about a ceiling of one hundred trillion and would not have steamed. Yes, and creditors would have been calmer, the ceiling supposedly is still far ...

[rotmistr60]

21 trillion dollars

The army needs to be fed, bases around the world must also be maintained, money for coups and opposition in other countries is simply necessary. A country that has trained its citizens to live on credit (loans) cannot itself refuse it. But not repaying the debt you make trouble for yourself. I don’t know who will become the collector for the United States, but this is inevitable.

[Basil50]

Thus, the country's economy differs from the family economy. The United States did not in vain create an army and spend such sums on it. This would be to repulse the collectors and shift their debts to those who are objectionable.
Amazing reasoning about * US debt structure *. It seems like debts turn out to be optional. In this regard, questions, including - and what is the US debt already included in US income? Otherwise, reasoning about * structure * is nothing.

[Harry.km]

Let’s do it again ... slowly ... The United States owes it to itself. This is just their family business. The United States has a family bank called the Fed. The Fed publishes crunchy pieces of paper and gives them at interest to everyone who wants it (we don’t want to talk about those who don’t want to). But first they scroll this money in their economy. And then a small percentage is taken for using this money. But this percentage is complex and long-term. Therefore, the percentage amount runs up is not small. But even without this percentage, the US manages to use any printed money. Used and handed out. So they have no debt and have nothing to give them back. And given that the Fed is a closed joint stock company all the more. Such a game and such rules. Do not like do not play. Want to win at a casino buy a casino (s)

[KonoGon]

Quote: Harry.km

Let's go again

And many more many times. Here open the US border. How many Russians will break? Minimum 50%.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: KonoGon

Here open the US border.

Borders are not closed anyway.

Quote: KonoGon

How many Russians will break? Minimum 50%.

Well, why should everyone be equal? Whoever wanted, he already dumped, for which they thank you - the air became cleaner.

[KonoGon]

Quote: Paranoid50

Who wanted, he already dumped

Yes, yes, already heard 250,000 applicants on the Green Card. Go to Privoz buy a rooster.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: KonoGon

, 250,000 applicants to the Green Card.

Is that all? Yes to health, nayhai. He also visited Privoz, did not meet you.

[KonoGon]

Quote: Paranoid50

He also visited Privoz

Bought a rooster? Here is his head and fool.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: KonoGon

Bought a rooster?

I have not met ...

[KonoGon]

Quote: Paranoid50

I have not met ...

Do you usually meet? Well, I'm sorry, I didn’t know that you were one of these. There are no questions then. I disdain because ...

[Kondratko]

"Yes, yes, already heard 250,000 applicants on the Green Card"
Do not boast of it. Not so long ago, I had nothing to do, I went to your precious website and filled out a green application, but you won’t believe your friend in order to see what comes of this, a few months later he answered in the affirmative, but my friend said: - "yes they went to ep with their residence permit, what to do there ...". I can’t say that everyone does it this way, but an example is on the face of who is "breaking" where and who, and to whom, and how much is needed. To me she, too, that went, that went, your "green card" and the country too. - Her motherland is like Mom, for almost all the inhabitants of our country, she is alone, some of course can easily betray and “sell” her, but this is their business and conscience ...

[KonoGon]

Quote: KondratKo

Not so long ago, from nothing to do

Yeah, and so 250.000 people.

[ultra]

Quote: KonoGon

Here open the US border. How many Russians will break? Minimum 50%.

And what is there that we don’t have?

[KonoGon]

Quote: ultra

And what is there that we don’t have?

You ask the question incorrectly, but it will be correct "is it because everything is there that you are not there?"

[ultra]

You have problems with punctuation marks! Urgent to school!

[KonoGon]

Quote: ultra

You have problems with punctuation marks!

truly

Woe to me woe, oh, what a woe!

Urgently to school

What for? Jump from the third floor again? Alka clamp for the hem to slam? Ride potatoes? Well, there were wonderful moments.

[Harry.km]

And so what? Why is there no debt structure in the article? The US national debt to 75% consists of a debt to physical. and jur. persons. and 25% of domestic debt. They owe their own Fed. And who is stopping the Russian Federation from borrowing money from the Central Bank of the Russian Federation?

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Harry.km

They owe their own Fed. And who is stopping the Russian Federation from borrowing money from the Central Bank of the Russian Federation?

so the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is a separate division of the US Federal Reserve ....

[Harry.km]

So I do not argue with this, here is another, why the Fed. can the US government borrow such amounts from individuals, but the Russian government does not? Do not give? It turns out the article is just an evil attack, because they do not.

[g1washntwn]

In fact, the State cannot borrow from the Central Bank; it simply does not have such rights.

Federal Law of July 10.07.2002, 86 N 07.03.2018-ФЗ (as amended on March 18.03.2018, XNUMX) "On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia)" (as amended and supplemented; entered into force on March XNUMX, XNUMX)

Article 22. The Bank of Russia is not entitled to provide loans to the Government of the Russian Federation to finance the federal budget deficit, to buy government securities at their initial placement, except as provided for by the federal law on the federal budget.

The Bank of Russia is not entitled to provide loans to finance budget deficits of state extra-budgetary funds, budgets of constituent entities of the Russian Federation and local budgets.

And the situation with the Fed in the United States only once again shows that their entire "economy" is goofy fraud and speculation. And what is most surprising, the tale that the entire world economy will collapse without the American dollar is artificially supported. In fact, within a month everything will return to normal as soon as the countries participating in international affairs confirm the availability of such security, which will be taken as a unit of calculation. A ton of gold, helium-3, dohrenanium, etc. Exchange rates do not have to be aligned with paper and green presidents; it is proved by the example of direct contracts that it is possible and necessary to live without a dollar.

[just exp]

but who cares what they owe, debt is debt, and interest is dripping on it.
and give it anyway.
If you think that you can print endlessly, then think about why senators approve budgets, and often cut off someone. why cut it off if you can just print how much you need and do not cut anything to anyone?

[Vladivostok1969]

And the Central Bank of Russia is not authorized to lend. That's bad luck.

[Mountain shooter]

POINT! Or maybe "bust"? So they can even “show” to throw - Where is our money?
And what is necessary so that the debt is not presented for payment? That's right, to become the main thing on this planet ...
LOOKING. And to "breed according to concepts" ... Then the hysteria about Russia is clear. Well, how can one be a hegemon if there is a country on this Ball that can destroy all your "hegemony" within an hour?

[Harry.km]

And what, someone is going to present bills ??? Do not make me laugh! The article is just about what they were given, will give and will give ...

[Thunderbolt]

If $ is an unreliable currency, then the rest of the currencies are not even paper, but a name. At least it does not sway like others, and therefore it is trusted. And it will be stronger than any reserves, this is demand first of all. Money is not the equivalent, but the goods.

[thinker]

as of March 15 this year amounted to 21 trillion 31 billion

Today it is already 21 trillion 46 billion, this is + 3 billion every day! Oh, and this "pyramid" will explode

[Alex-a832]

The United States without an increase in public debt is not able to provide its budget. At the same time, they themselves are hostages of this system - without injecting dollars into the market, secured by debt securities, the dollar will begin to deficit and increase in its exchange rate, which will lead to price non-competitiveness of goods produced and sold for bucks. Given that the US economy is export-oriented, there will be more losses than incomes.
This "soap bubble" will burst under its own weight. The greater this debt, the less stable the global dollar system. As a result, Russia and China will take advantage of this in order to “bury” the rival freeloader (USA). That's just the question - how soon?

[Harry.km]

The US owes to itself! And in 2017, the Russian Federation “swelled” $ 100 billion in US treasury bonds, while the United States borrowed 100 lard from the Fed, the Fed printed 100 lard. There is no debt. And there was just an entry in the house book that the alleged public debt had increased. If you want to, the Russian Federation will get back these 100 lards because they have not already been printed. So the United States does not threaten anything from this direction, do not dream ...

[Alex-a832]

What should the United States do in order to disperse, for example, with China, if it presents $ 1 trillion in debt for payment? There are no funds in the budget for this.
That is, the United States turns to the Fed to take another 1 trillion. already unsecured bucks and gives them to China, that is, it creates 1 trillion. inflation dollar. How will the international economy react to this?
There is a second option: some countries with altruism must scrape together 1 trillion in order to redeem the US debt, knowing that this is an irretrievable loss for the sake of further US hegemony ... Are there such?

[shuravi]

The dollar is not money, the dollar is an ultimatum.
If you resort to analogy, then the United States is a kind of village bully who is trying to look decent.
Therefore, he does not just rob the grandfathers and grandmothers living there, but buys everything from them.
But not for money, but for bonds that you can draw as much as you like.
And do not care that he never pays for them. Where to grandparents against him.
Yes, and they’re used to it already, they consider receipts to be money. They measure their well-being with them, save up, carry out calculations with each other. Even neighbors from a neighboring village are only traded through them.

[KVU-NSVD]

There is no limit?

There is no limit ..

[Altona]

Quote: Harry.km

So I do not argue with this, here is another, why the Fed. can the US government borrow such amounts from individuals, but the Russian government does not? Do not give? It turns out the article is just an evil attack, because they do not.

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The fact of the matter is that you can not invest domestically. American candy wrappers to buy as much as you like, and in the Kostroma or Voronezh region, figs.

[Harry.km]

You cannot invest only petrodollars. The problem is that there are no others ...

[Corsair0304]

The issue of US debt is long overdue. However, the United States itself never hid that they were not going to give a debt. There was even a series of programs on this topic.
You just need to take it for granted: the United States printed, prints and will continue to print as many wrappers as they need now. And while the whole world is sitting on a dollar needle, no one can do anything about it.
Gaddafi tried alone to abandon the dollar. Probably prematurely ..

[vladimirvn]

A lot of paper. Still draw.

[Tolik_74]

Quote: Harry.km

The US owes to itself! And in 2017, the Russian Federation “swelled” $ 100 billion in US treasury bonds, while the United States borrowed 100 lard from the Fed, the Fed printed 100 lard. There is no debt. And there was just an entry in the house book that the alleged public debt had increased. If you want to, the Russian Federation will get back these 100 lards because they have not already been printed. So the United States does not threaten anything from this direction, do not dream ...

You are mistaken, dear. Even such great empires as the Roman and Egyptian ones collapsed, sooner or later. The same fate awaits pindo.soiu, only a matter of time.

[Harry.km]

If you are in the sense that nothing lasts forever, then I did not deny it. I allow myself to note that none of the above empires had such a public debt ... Maybe that's why they collapsed?

[Dormidont]

Soon - a global force majeure

[Fedorov]

It seems like an enemy partner. And what kind of work in the national bank in support of the buck? See us his debts. Once we buy billions. Apparently something is wrong. Or I’m not a god knows which economist. Belt harnessed? And the privatization of the National Bank twice the State Duma "failed". Think about it. The video is present, everything is open. And We think that our central bank, figs.

[amr]

Quote: Logall

As long as we see the opposite: Russia is gaining ground, positions around the world are only strengthening. Learned, following their own interests, to repulse the United States.
Among other things, China, India are "growing" ... Which are also not averse to opposing US hegemony.

Well, that's why the public debt is growing, while someone is growing, it means you can print LaVe, when everything gets up, they will declare war !!

[amr]

Quote: Tolik_74

The same fate awaits pindo.soiu, only a matter of time.

a very subtle philosophy ... it is clear that we all will die, but not now, right now we live in debt))

[A. Privalov]

Your esteemed compatriots keep under pillows no less than 20 billion greens. (At the same time, I’m not talking about oligarchs and other cellists hiding their greens in foreign banks and offshores.)
Do not forget about more than 100 billions of greenbacks for which your own native government purchased from mattresses you hated and other American-made government securities.

According to the results for 2017 year, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation bought US securities for more than $ 16 billion, bringing its share among the holders of national hegemonic debt to $ 102,2 billion, which in turn amounts to 30% of the foreign exchange reserves of the Russian Federation and is a record in terms of buying foreign securities from 2014 year.

And rightly so did. More will be your grandmother. They will be preserved in the best possible way, and even a steady profit will be given. Their securities are completely liquid. Rest assured. To pull them apart will not be so easy. A little bit of what happens with wood will be something to buy a piece of bread (and even with butter).
One of the indicators of a strong economy is a stable and expensive currency, for which there is demand not only domestically, but also from other states that buy it. The US dollar is not the best thing in the world, but the most popular currency in the world. The economy of the country issuing this currency is diversified and stable (it withstands even financial crises) and therefore, it is the dollar that is the world reserve currency. The collapse of this currency will lead to innumerable misfortunes in the world economy, to the immediate fall of the governments of dozens of countries, to the bloodiest civil wars on all continents, including on the territory of such a large state as the Russian Federation. We wish the American dollar good health and many years of quiet life for the joy of all its keepers.

[aszzz888]

A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov) Today, 11: 20 ... To pull them apart will not be so easy there. A little bit of what happens with wood will be something to buy a piece of bread (and even with butter).

And what would we do without merikatosovsky greenery? !!!! What will happen to the ruble now ?! (wring my hands !!!) I’m typing up a post, and I’m running into a corner to pray for cut greens!

[A. Privalov]

Quote: aszzz888

A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov) Today, 11: 20 ... To pull them apart will not be so easy there. A little bit of what happens with wood will be something to buy a piece of bread (and even with butter).

And what would we do without merikatosovsky greenery? !!!!
-- I would not know what to do with the rubles. No offense, please. For the ruble is not converted.
What will happen to the ruble now ?! (wring my hands !!!)
-- Will, as usual, cheaper. I am from the 30 Dollar Witness Sect.
I finish the post, and I run to the corner to pray for cut greens!

-- Well, if there is nothing more to do ...

[shuravi]

Quote: A. Privalov

Your esteemed compatriots keep at least 20 billions of green under their pillows.

Thus, for a long time taking them out of circulation, forcing the Fed to turn on the printing press.

One of the indicators of a strong economy is a stable and expensive currency, for which there is a demand not only within the country, but also from other states buying it. The US dollar is not the best thing in the world, but the most popular currency in the world. The economy of the issuing country of this currency is diversified and stable (it can withstand even financial crises) and therefore, it is the dollar that is the world's reserve currency.

Stable like a soap bubble.

The collapse of this currency will lead to innumerable disasters in the global economy, to the immediate fall of the governments of dozens of countries, to the most bloody civil wars on all continents,

Because everyone is so worried about increasing gold reserves. And China, in general, made the yuan a reserve currency.

including in the territory of such a large state as the Russian Federation.

The dream of all immigrants. But unattainable.

We wish the American dollar good health and many years of a quiet life for the joy of all who hold it.

Such wishes to a terminally ill person seem inappropriate.

[KKND]

Shuravi, I understand that you are a specialist, but you cannot be a specialist on ALL issues.
The US dollar is provided, first of all, with the future labor (domestic debt) of American citizens. Yes, yes, a modern slave system invented by bankers. The dollar will become a soap bubble only if US citizens stop working. The question is whether the nation building skyscrapers, factories, computers (on one of them you are currently sitting on the Internet), owning the Internet, and a bunch of debt receipts for factories in China, for example, will rot.
I understand that you are a patriot, but let's be objective. I am pleased to hear your objections.

[shuravi]

Quote: KKND

Shuravi, I understand that you are a specialist, but you cannot be a specialist on ALL issues.
The US dollar is provided, first of all, with the future labor (domestic debt) of American citizens. Yes, yes, a modern slave system invented by bankers. The dollar will become a soap bubble only if US citizens stop working. The question is whether the nation building skyscrapers, factories, computers (on one of them you are currently sitting on the Internet), owning the Internet, and a bunch of debt receipts for factories in China, for example, will rot.
I understand that you are a patriot, but let's be objective. I am pleased to hear your objections.

And here patriotism. You need to look at realities and trends. And do not carry nonsense, about providing the future dollar with labor.
And they are as follows:
- the balance of foreign trade has not been in favor of the United States for a long time; they buy more goods than they sell;
- The dollar is no longer the only reserve currency;
- a dollar, a long time ago (since the collapse of the Bretton Woods agreements) a conventional unit, if you do not know, it’s not even US money, these green wrappers are printed without any security by one private shop, after which it gives them to the US state as a loan ;
- many states, primarily not members of the US harem, are building up gold reserves;
- in fact, the dollar is held at the expense of the military power of the United States, but here they are losing ground.

As for computers, everything I have is made in China, not a single one in the USA. And no matter what happens to the USA, the Chinese will continue to do them.
And in fact, the dollar still holds by the grace of China. The United States may be happy to devalue it, but why should the Chinese lose money? But I remind you, the yuan has become the reserve currency, which means that the US debt to China will be transferred to the yuan. After that, China will not care about the future of the dollar.

[KKND]

Shuravi, get Soviet propaganda out of your head. It interferes with objective analysis.
I will try to explain everything.
Dollar. A banker printing dollars has resources. Gold, American land, goods. All this can be bought for dollars. People can also be goods (see ownership), but how to make them goods ?. It is very simple to print dollars and give them on credit. Part of the resources (goods) will go to the debtor, but there is a percentage. Those. for 10 dollars of credit, the debtor buys goods worth 10 dollars, and interest (1 dollar, for example) remains due to his future labor (interest on domestic debt). Everything.
Computers I am not a great specialist, but I worked as a system administrator. I understand something in the hardware. So processors (CPUs) (the main and most complex parts) for desktop personal computers are produced only by two companies (99,9%) Intel and AMD. Both in the USA.
There are even more complex graphic processors (GPUs) for games and calculations, so to speak (without going into details, or for a very long time, see blockchain technology)), cryptocurrencies. Firms NVIDEA and AMD. Both are American.
Factories in China, Taiwan, and a bunch of other places, does not negate the fact of development and appropriation, of course (legs against the head), most of the profits by American corporations.

Quote: shuravi

And in fact, the dollar still holds by the grace of China.

This is China held by the grace of the United States. US bankers created China as an alternative to the USSR. And they fed him with investments and technologies. Gorby thought that they would also "love" the USSR, but they would "stab it". China, of course, may try to raise a rebellion, but it will be like a proverb with legs against the head.

[shuravi]

Quote: KKND

Shuravi, get Soviet propaganda out of your head. It interferes with objective analysis.
I will try to explain everything.
Dollar. A banker printing dollars has resources. Gold, American land, goods. All this can be bought for dollars. People can also be goods (see ownership), but how to make them goods ?. It is very simple to print dollars and give them on credit. Part of the resources (goods) will go to the debtor, but there is a percentage. Those. for 10 dollars of credit, the debtor buys goods worth 10 dollars, and interest (1 dollar, for example) remains due to his future labor (interest on domestic debt). Everything.

You are not a victim of EG for an hour? Or studied in the nineties? I did not hear more delirium.
The fact of the matter is that private bankers who print cut paper have neither gold nor other resources.

Computers I am not a great specialist, but I worked as a system administrator.

It seems to have worked. For you do not know nichrome.

This is China held by the grace of the United States. US bankers created China as an alternative to the USSR. And they fed him with investments and technologies. Gorby thought that they would also "love" the USSR, but they would "stab it". China, of course, may try to raise a rebellion, but it will be like a proverb with legs against the head.

Um ... and you are not a patient of the mentally ill hospital for an hour? The USA created China.

[KKND]

Quote: shuravi

Or studied in the nineties?

Yes, he studied in the nineties. the quality of education sucks, then what. Need to hang a label? I'm trying to explain the system to you, and not show how smart or how stupid you are. This is not a struggle of "authorities". I do not strive to be higher or lower than you.
Imagine there is no money in the USA. There are cities, oil, gold, goods. Then the Fed appears and says: I issue dollars. Dollars become the equivalent of goods. Released 1 dollar, the whole of America can be bought for 1 dollar. Released 10 dollars 1 \ 10 America can be bought for 1 dollar, all for 10.
Now imagine that the Fed gives 1 dollar on credit to a worker. It immediately changes to 1/10 of America. The Fed lost 1/10 of the United States, the worker acquired, but now he has to work 1/10 of America, and even with interest. He can stupidly sell 1/10 of America, and repay the debt, but what to do with by percent? Now, until he returns the interest he is in debt slavery. Interest will be returned by his future labor.

Quote: shuravi

It seems to have worked. For you do not know nichrome.

Yes, my level of computer knowledge is not high. But even he makes it clear that the desktop PC is developed in the USA. What is your current CPU and GPU of the computer on which you write on the Internet? I have Intel and Nvidia, I prefer the best. An alternative to AMD and AMD, but this is for someone who loves cheaper. A combination of these three firms is possible. There are no more firms. Was Via, but about 20 years as swam.

Quote: shuravi

The USA created China.

The United States has invested in China. After a provocation in Damansky. Why is South Korea so rich and North Korea so poor? Because bankers can "move" money. And the North did not get it at all.
Once again, I urge not to measure "pipyrks", but to dialogue.

[CAT BAIYUN]

At a time when the Soviet Union collapsed, in fact the entire economy of the former Union joined the striped economy - everyone began to count in dollars .. This was exactly the kind of doping that allowed the states to "smoke" until today ... And now this is not will happen again. They urgently need to invent something .. I don’t know what exactly in their unhealthy brains will be born ..

[Dead duck]

In France, the frog Sarkozy was detained in the case of 50 of millions allocated by Gaddafi to his election campaign.

[pavelpavel]

Correctly. If no one thinks to freebie stop that experience then. They trained in Yugoslavia, Russia and Medvedev, Kudrin, Nabiullina, Oreshkin are in line, and time works for them.

[sgr291158]

And how to demand that it be returned.

[K-50]

Judging by the pace with which the FSA public debt is growing, they are not going to give it back. Type: "We owe you? Forgive" or "You do not have democracy, we are going to you."
Maybe they’re thinking of falling onto some other planet?

[IXION]

No one is interested in the collapse of dollars, if only for the reason that all interstate payments and purchases are held in dollars. It is a world currency.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: IXION

No one is interested in the collapse of dollars, if only for the reason that all interstate payments and purchases are held in dollars. It is a world currency.

Exactly. However, not everyone here is understandable, but they do not want to listen to explanations. Alas...

[KKND]

Quote: A. Privalov

Exactly. However, not everyone here is understandable, but they do not want to listen to explanations. Alas...

You do not tell tales to the people. The Japs would have dreamed about the collapse of the dollar and the introduction of their tugriks instead of them. Yes brains electronics from 12 billion parts is not enough to collect. But the desire is still there.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: KKND

You do not tell tales to the people. The Japs would have dreamed about the collapse of the dollar and the introduction of their tugriks instead of them. Yes brains electronics from 12 billion parts is not enough to collect. But the desire is still there.

Your statement is only half true. The Japanese might have been glad if the yen had become a new reserve currency, but the collapse of the dollar ... You would not even like to see it in a terrible dream! Japan is the largest US foreign lender. She today holds no less than one trillion three hundred billion dollars. This is of the order of 20% of US government debt (RF is only 2%). The collapse of the dollar threatens Japan with innumerable ills. For the time being, I personally see the dreams of Russians about the dollar collapse. Although, there are currencies that are weaker, and the ruble exchange rate is growing for itself, and for 1 today, the ruble gives 6,47 Zimbabwe dollars, and this gives hope, you will agree.

[KKND]

Quote: A. Privalov

You do not wish them even to see in a terrible dream!

Do you think I'm an exalted lady? Well, they will lose 2 trillion, but they will print much more for the future work of the Japanese. Only the price of this work is actually less than the American one. Japs are not good at complex processors and that’s it. And they would have been able to collect from 100 billion, for example, then the yen had risen so that 2,3 trillion dollars of garbage losses would have seemed.
Well, you are for Israel, but argue as "10 cents is not superfluous." Excuse me.

[Thomas the Unbelieving]

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