In Kiev, they told why in the 2014 year they were unable to transfer troops to the Crimea

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Ukraine continues to look for those guilty of leaving Crimea in the 2014 year and banning the transfer of Ukrainian troops to the peninsula.

Former Chief of the General Staff and Commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Colonel-General Vladimir Zamana said that at the beginning of 2014, the Ukrainian authorities began to transfer troops to the Crimea, but later returned them to their places of permanent deployment.



In Kiev, they told why in the 2014 year they were unable to transfer troops to the Crimea


According to him, four battalion tactical groups of airmobile troops and airborne troops, as well as special forces regiments, were preparing for the transfer to the Crimea. Another reconnaissance company of the Airborne Forces was redeployed to the peninsula in January.

In early March, the Ukrainian General Staff sent 2014 to the Crimea three Il-76 and 20 helicopters with a landing force, but it was not possible to transfer troops to the peninsula, Zaman said.

Someone gave the command to return the aircraft with the troops, when they were already in the air, and not to allow them to perform tasks in the Crimea
- He explained.

The former head of the General Staff said that the Minister of Defense had informed Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk about the unwillingness of the Ukrainian army to fight with Russia. According to him, the plan was then supported by the head of the Security Service of Ukraine, Valentin Nalyvaychenko and the head of the Mejlis Refat Chubarov.
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  1. +51
    16 March 2018 16: 25


    In Kiev they told why in 2104 they could not transfer troops to the Crimea.

    Because they pissed, everything is simple and obvious
    1. +7
      16 March 2018 16: 36
      took from the tongue took off :(
      1. +4
        16 March 2018 16: 49
        Quote: Not Liberoid Russian
        took from the tongue took off :(

        it is necessary to closely monitor their property lol
        1. +11
          16 March 2018 17: 07
          Someone gave the command to return the planes with the landing

          And here is Putin? laughing
          1. +20
            16 March 2018 17: 49
            Somebody (???) gave the command to return the planes with the landing, when they were already in the air, and not allow them to perform tasks in the Crimea

            This is said by the ex-head of the General Staff !!! "Someone"!!! The janitor called and gave the command! Uncle, are you coming or where?
          2. +12
            16 March 2018 21: 19
            In a year (or maybe two), there will be new masterpieces ... such as: "Our 3 (or maybe 4 or more) tank divisions, supported by 5 air regiments (no .... 20, no less) with 10 mobile divisions on the sides, were already in the city blocks of Simferopol, Sevastopol, the Zaporizhzhya submarine almost launched vigorous torpedoes, but the command came to confuse the enemy so as not to reveal their mighty dodging potential in front of the achressor. ... you never know what ............ and that's it ... we .... pissed off everything! And so we would have completely and completely destroyed them !!!, and repeat it again. .. we would. them .. uhhh and ahhh !!!! .. in general. like an ace hot-water bottle! " wassat
            1. 0
              16 March 2018 22: 36
              In short, flying saucers, the secret development of ukrov was saved from the Buryats. I had to retreat.
        2. 0
          17 March 2018 09: 06
          Quote: LSA57
          Quote: Not Liberoid Russian
          took from the tongue took off :(

          it is necessary to closely monitor their property lol

          Crimea is not property. It’s never been “your own” for a date.
    2. +27
      16 March 2018 17: 15
      Bullshit, as they began to lie from the age of 14, they continue. In the year 14, there were no serviceable 20 helicopters in all non-aircraft aircraft. The IL-76s were generally based in Melitopol, there was only one serviceable, and a couple more flew somewhere under UN programs in Africa. They lie. They simply could not react as much as Russia. Just in Melitopol, they wanted to undermine their only serviceable IL, dumping them on polite guys. But in time they thought better that they would remain without an airplane. If not for a strong-willed decision, polite guys would have reached Nikolaev and Zaporozhye.
      1. ZVO
        +1
        16 March 2018 19: 12
        Quote: Letun_64
        Just in Melitopol, they wanted to undermine their only serviceable IL, dumping them on polite guys. N


        And how many Ilov shot down in Donetsk? if they had only one flying? as far as I remember in Donetsk and in Lugansk? This is already 2 ...
        1. +3
          16 March 2018 20: 30
          Quote: ZVO
          Quote: Letun_64
          Just in Melitopol, they wanted to undermine their only serviceable IL, dumping them on polite guys. N


          And how many Ilov shot down in Donetsk? if they had only one flying? as far as I remember in Donetsk and in Lugansk? This is already 2 ...

          One for all the time, as I recall.
      2. +2
        17 March 2018 05: 18
        If not for a strong-willed decision, polite guys would have reached Nikolaev and Zaporozhye.
        It would be better then come. Now it’s too late to drink Borjomi.
      3. 0
        17 March 2018 07: 17
        The CIA said that the Russians were able to get into the connection of Ukrainians and gave commands for certain actions in the USA, the Americans themselves were shocked, as the Russians did.
        1. 0
          18 March 2018 15: 38
          Yes, Putin said in a film about the Crimea, in plain text, that our specialists blocked the connection of the Hohlofashists with the Crimean group (and if they blocked it, they probably could have given the necessary teams to either side).
    3. +15
      16 March 2018 17: 16
      What are they arguing about, stick Christmas trees! Who outside Ukraine in 2014 would decide to fight with Russia when they are still not able to do this? A brilliant operation was conducted by Russian special forces with the disconnection of communications between the military of Crimea and Kuev. And no one believed in telephone orders, they asked to deliver a package with a written order. Yes, only the messenger was caught on the way. Well, who is to blame? laughing
      1. +12
        16 March 2018 20: 50
        and now they are not able to do this


        Only vilely stuck out his facade - the faces of only normal people - from the bushes, attack, and then boast that they were so "glorious and brave" who could kill a Russian officer.

        Remember about their "sortie" in the Crimea, about which everyone dreams and dreams.

        Killed in battle with "Ukrainian saboteurs"

        On the night of August 7, 2016, "Ukrainian saboteurs" penetrated the territory of Crimea, who planned to undermine the "critical elements of the infrastructure and life support of the peninsula." Then, according to Russian media, in the battles with these saboteurs, an FSB officer also died. However, his first and last name was not called.

        You can’t build your happiness on hatred! No one did it! And their hatred of Russia and manic zeal in these matters overshadowed the mind!

        As Kozma Prutkov said: "Zeal overcomes everything, even reason!"

        They do not even notice (or do not want to notice!) That all their actions have led and will lead, and more than once will lead to disastrous results!

        Close elbow, but not a bite!
        1. +4
          17 March 2018 14: 02
          died during the protection of the state border of the Russian Federation during the breakthrough of the reconnaissance and sabotage group
    4. 0
      16 March 2018 19: 21
      even worse - Because they fell asleep - froze in the fall and returned the planes
    5. 0
      16 March 2018 20: 59
      Well, and what about their landing, there’s what it’s all about. They would simply be destroyed.
      They are no longer Rusichi.
    6. 0
      17 March 2018 01: 29
      But the transfer from Crimea was successful. In the region of 20000 there were snouts at that time. How about in Elovaysk? In Debaltseve brilliantly exchanged? This experience can be useful to the whole of NATO, especially to the Poles.
  2. +3
    16 March 2018 16: 26
    Someone gave the command to return the planes with the landing

    I even guess who this "someone" is .... whom he meant, but could not say out loud, began to turn around nervously ...

    laughing
    1. +14
      16 March 2018 16: 29
      Quote: DEZINTO
      I even guess who this someone is ....

      Is he?
      1. +1
        16 March 2018 16: 33
        Is he?


        We will never know ..... what
      2. +4
        16 March 2018 17: 16
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Is he?

        Here you rushing with fantasies)))
    2. +14
      16 March 2018 16: 29
      Someone gave the command to return the aircraft with the troops, when they were already in the air, and not to allow them to perform tasks in the Crimea
      If the Chief of the General Staff receives a FIG knows from whom the team is and executes it, then he D.E.B.I.L. Zamana signed this laughing
      1. +7
        16 March 2018 16: 39
        Quote: Black
        If the Chief of General Staff receives a FIG knows from whom the team is and performs it, then he is D.E.B.I.L.

        There are two conclusions. The first one is what you voiced, and the second one is elementary, all this flock being transferred would have been buried in Crimea if they tried to do anything. In general, in the history of the Crimea, Ukraine and its junta were extras, and so they didn’t do it, everything was decided by completely different people and forces.
        1. +3
          16 March 2018 17: 19
          most likely there is also a third, in millet they realized that the grouping of troops of Russia, maybe it will replenish also ------
          [/ quote] four battalion tactical groups of airborne troops and airborne forces, as well as special forces regiments. Another reconnaissance company of the Airborne Forces was relocated to the peninsula in January.
          At the beginning of March 2014, the Ukrainian General Staff sent three Il-76 planes and 20 helicopters with landing troops to the Crimea [quote]
          maybe that's why they changed their minds ...... bully
        2. 0
          17 March 2018 06: 25
          all this flock being flown would have been buried in Crimea
          In this situation, in the Donbass, the guys would have changed their work. And maybe it’s generally not necessary. Due to the lack of troops ukrovermahta
      2. +3
        16 March 2018 16: 54
        Quote: Black
        If the Chief of General Staff receives a FIG, he knows from whom the team is and executes it,

        Yes, he knows this "fig." afraid to say "peacemaker" on guard laughing
      3. +1
        16 March 2018 17: 14
        Quote: Black
        Someone gave the command to return the aircraft with the troops, when they were already in the air, and not to allow them to perform tasks in the Crimea
        If the Chief of the General Staff receives a FIG knows from whom the team is and executes it, then he D.E.B.I.L. Zamana signed this laughing

        How can he admit that he canceled. After a good conversation with our Shoigu, what will these planes bring down when approaching the territory of Crimea?
    3. +8
      16 March 2018 16: 41
      And then someone shouted the Russians are coming ... wassat
      1. 0
        16 March 2018 17: 17
        Quote: Black
        And then someone shouted the Russians are coming ... wassat

        Change diapers command)))
        1. +2
          16 March 2018 17: 42
          Quote: Letun_64
          Change diapers command)))

          1. 0
            16 March 2018 18: 14
            Quote: Piramidon
            Quote: Letun_64
            Change diapers command)))


            Type wit))))
      2. 0
        17 March 2018 08: 51
        Quote: Black
        And then someone shouted the Russians are coming ... wassat


        just a test of "combat readiness" ...
    4. +1
      16 March 2018 16: 51
      Quote: DEZINTO
      whom he meant, but could not say out loud, began to nervously turn around ...

      exactly, the traffic controller. some turntables in Crimea, others from Crimea lol
  3. +1
    16 March 2018 16: 26
    Someone gave a command
    laughing good
    1. +2
      16 March 2018 16: 28
      “Topaz” gave the command.
  4. +9
    16 March 2018 16: 27
    Someone gave the command to return the aircraft with the troops, when they were already in the air, and not to allow them to perform tasks in the Crimea. This "someone" saved a lot of lives. But it is useless to explain this to Ukrainian politicians. They have already "bitten the bit" and "went to the demolition." fool
  5. +10
    16 March 2018 16: 28
    What nonsense. Ukrainians in the Crimea had a very weak group of troops. But the majority refused to submit to the Ukrainians and switched to the side of Russia. Everything is simple.
    1. 0
      16 March 2018 16: 55
      Quote: engineer
      But the majority refused to submit to the Ukrainians and switched to the side of Russia. Everything is simple.

      I read something, under 90 percent
  6. +1
    16 March 2018 16: 29
    In early March, the Ukrainian General Staff sent 2014 to the Crimea three Il-76 and 20 helicopters with a landing force, but it was not possible to transfer troops to the peninsula, Zaman said.
    I know who is to blame - the dispatchers, it was they who said that the airfields of Crimea DO NOT ACCEPT.
    You might think that you can get to Crimea only by air ....
    1. +1
      16 March 2018 16: 56
      Quote: svp67
      that you can get to Crimea only by air ...

      so the ships are all about ... rusted, but you won’t sail on boats laughing
      1. 0
        16 March 2018 17: 01
        Quote: LSA57
        so the ships are all about ... rusted, but you won’t sail on boats

        There is a land path there ... but not one.
        1. +1
          16 March 2018 17: 24
          Quote: svp67
          There is a land path there ... but not one.

          maybe there is ... laughing
        2. 0
          16 March 2018 17: 27
          Overland routes, by then, were blocked by marines from Sevastopol, a whole convoy of armored personnel carriers then passed to the north of the peninsula. And in Guards, one after another, Il-76s landed with the Airborne Forces, spread out a whole tent camp and were ready to advance to the border. And they brought a bunch of S-400 shells. So the airplanes had nothing to do here either. They did the right thing, that they turned the boards home, there was nothing for them to do.
          1. 0
            16 March 2018 17: 34
            Quote: Alekseits
            They did the right thing, that they turned the boards home, there was nothing for them to do.

            What I will not argue correctly. I believe that they did not risk the military operation, realizing that the Crimeans would clearly not be for them ...
            1. +1
              16 March 2018 17: 45
              Well, this is the reason in the first place, they saw everything that was happening.
              1. +1
                16 March 2018 18: 01
                The only reason for the lack of real response of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff of Ukraine to the events in Crimea is the absolutely low combat readiness of the Defense Ministry units and moral and psychological preparedness.
          2. +1
            16 March 2018 21: 41
            Most of them could swear allegiance to Crimea, I think that this is not the last reason for refusing to transfer.
            There are examples of this, from rank-and-file to the transition of senior command personnel.
            The article says that the transfer was planned for early March, and just on the SECOND of March, the large rank of the Ukrainian Navy, appointed by Kiev on the FIRST of the same month, sided with the Republic of Crimea.
  7. +3
    16 March 2018 16: 32
    "someone gave the command to return the planes with the landing" ...
    there was already deployed a grouping of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation ..... and Putin gave the command to come back personally. now, of course, we must somehow justify our cowardice, shortsightedness and predict the correction of a historical error ... late!
  8. +2
    16 March 2018 16: 33
    what troops? They were all demoralized by the events on the Maidan and not only could not conduct any kind of military operations, but even protect their military camps, weapons depots, etc.
  9. +1
    16 March 2018 16: 35
    There were no miners and drivers with builders armed in the Crimea at that time, there was no one to hide from ukrovoks like in the Donbas, but how could it be without masochism? wassat And the Russian army in Crimea was too kind - it was necessary to let the ukrovoyak on foot, barefoot, and unarmed, and completely confiscate all arms and sell them to Africa.
    1. +1
      16 March 2018 17: 17
      Quote: Herkulesich
      There were no miners and drivers with builders armed in the Crimea at that time, there was no one to hide from ukrovoks like in the Donbas, but how could it be without masochism? wassat And the Russian army in Crimea was too kind - it was necessary to let the ukrovoyak on foot, barefoot, and unarmed, and completely confiscate all arms and sell them to Africa.

      Do not know the wisdom of Clausewitz. He argued that if a retreating enemy is in front of you and his retreat is hindered by a river, build him a golden bridge.
  10. +1
    16 March 2018 16: 40
    Quote: engineer
    What nonsense. Ukrainians in the Crimea had a very weak group of troops. But the majority refused to submit to the Ukrainians and switched to the side of Russia. Everything is simple.


    Right !!! Frightened that these troops will cross laughing
  11. 0
    16 March 2018 16: 54
    "Someone gave the command to return the planes with the landing"
    It remains to find the one who is hiding under the name "Someone"
    Make a request to mobile networks.
    Toto - it is known who - Cotunho, but someone ......
  12. +3
    16 March 2018 16: 54
    Late, Vovik (Zamana) drink “Borjomi” - Our Crimea is already 4 years old, and you write memoirs for Svidomo descendants. Do not forget to write about the Mosfilm bridge, about how the Crimeans, after turning off the water and electricity, "crawled to your knees" and asked to come back ...
  13. +3
    16 March 2018 16: 57
    They didn’t fly, they didn’t execute, they obeyed the order, but FIG knows whose .... The main thing was without blood. And let the warriors with politicians in Ukraine excuse each other now until they turn blue - we have another reason to laugh, but have fun with them and "fight" with Claudia .. laughing
  14. +1
    16 March 2018 17: 06
    Someone gave the command to send the planes with the landing, someone gave the command to return the planes with the landing-shield of Europe however.
  15. 0
    16 March 2018 17: 10
    These someone were Crimeans who occupied the tower of the airport in Simferopol, let the "Crimea. Way to the Homeland" look. wink
  16. 0
    16 March 2018 17: 14
    How was it told once again ... well, well, what is interesting next year?
  17. 0
    16 March 2018 17: 16
    In Kiev, they told why in the 2014 year they were unable to transfer troops to the Crimea

    Nothing to throw!
  18. +2
    16 March 2018 17: 16
    Nobody was going to throw anything anywhere. Due to the fact that at that moment the APU, in fact, did not obey anyone. There was an escaped, but legitimate, president - the supreme commander in chief and a bunch of spiders in the bank who sharply divided the power, but in fact, did not possess all its fullness. In that situation, the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not intend to execute any orders related to the armed confrontation.
    And now everyone holding command posts is telling tales about how they would smash the Russian special forces in Crimea if they were not stopped.
  19. +1
    16 March 2018 17: 27
    No one is to blame for the fact that Ukraine surrendered the Crimea. They were firmly convinced that Russia would not dare to do anything.
    1. 0
      16 March 2018 18: 06
      Quote: captain
      No one is to blame for the fact that Ukraine surrendered the Crimea. They were firmly convinced that Russia would not dare to do anything.

      Your truth! .. hi .... A significant number of Crimean and "pro-Russian" politicians at that time assured everyone that the Konstantinov-Aksenov initiative was about to end. ... It is all the more surprising that, say, the “pro-Russian” Kunitsyn, as well as Nalivaychenko, offered to fight for the Crimea.
    2. 0
      17 March 2018 06: 35
      They were firmly convinced that Russia would not dare to do anything.
      Well yes. With shouts - Omeriga is with us!
  20. +1
    16 March 2018 17: 34
    It is time for Ukraine to forget about
    its Crimea.
    ..
    Crimea, now Russia and I am sure it will be so long as there is such a nation as the Russians! It's my opinion...
  21. 0
    16 March 2018 17: 50
    Late after the fight, wave your fists.
  22. 0
    16 March 2018 18: 19
    Well, they didn’t die and that’s it ... They paid a little to the military, they mainly served the locals, who today serve only in the RF Armed Forces.
  23. 0
    16 March 2018 18: 51
    Quote: Letun_64
    Bullshit, as they began to lie from the age of 14, they continue. In the year 14, there were no serviceable 20 helicopters in all non-aircraft aircraft. The IL-76s were generally based in Melitopol, there was only one serviceable, and a couple more flew somewhere under UN programs in Africa. They lie. They simply could not react as much as Russia. Just in Melitopol, they wanted to undermine their only serviceable IL, dumping them on polite guys. But in time they thought better that they would remain without an airplane. If not for a strong-willed decision, polite guys would have reached Nikolaev and Zaporozhye.

    Sorry, I'll fix it a bit. There were three sides on the wing: 76413,78820,76683. Then they lifted 76777,76732,76699. Although this drop in the ocean doesn’t change the essence ...
  24. 0
    16 March 2018 19: 11
    Someone gave the command to return the aircraft with the troops, when they were already in the air, and not to allow them to perform tasks in the Crimea
    really .... Putin? fellow
  25. 0
    16 March 2018 19: 19
    The Ukrainian military, if the military weren’t capable of anything serious either in 2014 or now, would rather be silent than wave their fists after the fight. And then it reminds me of an old joke, where the cat, being alone with the cat, instead of doing his job, told her all night how frostbitten eggs in Siberia
  26. 0
    16 March 2018 20: 41
    Someone ..... this mysterious someone is not only with them, he sometimes gives commands from us ... and no one knows who ...
  27. 0
    16 March 2018 20: 51
    Someone gave a command ...!
    And again, along the way, Russian hackers!
  28. +2
    16 March 2018 21: 18
    The former head of the General Staff said that the Minister of Defense had informed Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk about the unwillingness of the Ukrainian army to fight with Russia. According to him, the plan was then supported by the head of the Security Service of Ukraine, Valentin Nalyvaychenko and the head of the Mejlis Refat Chubarov.
    Especially the last fruit is a great fighter and strategist.
    I will not say anything about the rest.
    Identical warriors of the language front. Sending to die and dying yourself are two different things.
  29. +1
    16 March 2018 22: 48
    storytellers ... 20 helicopters ... and why not 200 (4 airmobile battalion tactical groups? How many helicopters do you need to use? yap ... MI-8 takes two squads) ... plans ... whistle further ... there was no commander able to make a decision and take responsibility .. cowards ... sat and waited with which flags and portraits to go out ...
  30. 0
    16 March 2018 23: 01
    a fairy tale about a white bull ...
  31. +1
    17 March 2018 01: 07
    They did not rush off, and they were attacked by a bear disease, if anyone knows.
  32. 0
    17 March 2018 01: 37
    Quote: Monos
    Somebody (???) gave the command to return the planes with the landing, when they were already in the air, and not allow them to perform tasks in the Crimea

    This is said by the ex-head of the General Staff !!! "Someone"!!! The janitor called and gave the command! Uncle, are you coming or where?


    Pilots of the planes probably. They said that they were not kamikaze. Well, or the paratroopers jumped in advance, they said yes to hell. Because it’s higher than the chief of the General Staff, only the Defense Ministry and the Supreme, but at that time it was not clear who was where.
  33. 0
    17 March 2018 05: 23
    zadolbali storytellers. Well, where would you fly? to whom do they screw it? in fact, they didn’t even rock there especially for any attempt to aggravate would lead to fatal victims and normal commanders would not even try to comply with such orders. and all the talk now is in favor of the poor
  34. 0
    17 March 2018 07: 09
    Spring. Aggravation. A time of exciting stories.
  35. 0
    17 March 2018 08: 23
    Someone gave the command to return the aircraft with the landing. Who is not known. Power however. Independent. Everyone is independent.
  36. 0
    17 March 2018 10: 07
    Why why, point then, not made of cast iron
  37. 0
    17 March 2018 13: 44
    Yes, they did it right ... Now there would be exactly four battalion tactical groups of airmobile troops and airborne forces, a special forces regiment, one reconnaissance company of the airborne forces MORE ...
  38. 0
    17 March 2018 15: 24
    Well, they did not crash!
    Did they switch to Latin or already into English?