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The head of Naftogaz told how he is going to recover money from Gazprom

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Yury Vitrenko, commercial director of the Ukrainian company Naftogaz, made an entry on Facebook, which once again exposes the entire inner essence of the Maidan authorities. Essence one: the search for "freebies."


Vitrenko presented his version of how to recover from Gazprom those 2,56 billion dollars, which the Russian company ordered to pay Ukraine Stockholm arbitration. According to Vitrenko, for this, “it is not necessary to pump out gas that goes through Ukraine through a pipe to Europe, but it is necessary to collect amounts for gas after it enters the European market.”

Vitrenko (translated from Ukrainian):
“Experts” who receive money from Gazprom twist my words that we will impose penalties on gas owned by Gazprom if Gazprom fails to comply with the decision of the Stockholm arbitration and does not pay us 2,5 billion.
I explain: in this case we will impose penalties on gas owned by Gazprom in European countriesand not in Ukraine.

If Gazprom voluntarily fails to comply with the decision of the Stockholm arbitration, we will apply to the courts in European countries that have ratified the relevant international convention, by enforcing the arbitration decision.

Thus, we are not going to take gas from transit flows to Europe.

It is better for us to impose penalties on gas after it hits the European markets - this is a more effective way to get the funds that we have to pay to Gazprom by international arbitration, and show Europe that Ukraine is a reliable transit country, and Gazprom "- unreliable gas supplier.


The head of Naftogaz told how he is going to recover money from Gazprom


I wonder if Vitrenko understood his own “logic”? After all, the gas from Russia that Europe acquired from Gazprom for itself with its own money comes to Europe. This is what European court will decide to arrest the gas purchased by Europe and for Europe in favor of Mr. Vitrenko and his Naftogaz? Or, according to Vitrenko's logic, should Europe oblige Gazprom for paying gas to Ukraine as a “compensation” for gas sold to European consumers?
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  1. Firework
    Firework 13 March 2018 12: 49 New
    +4
    enough pipelines to be built soon to forget about unyielding neighbors
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 13 March 2018 12: 52 New
      +8
      I explain: in this case, we will impose penalties on gas belonging to Gazprom in European countries, and not in Ukraine.

      Gas in European countries does not belong to Gazprom anyway.
      1. Partyzan
        Partyzan 13 March 2018 13: 01 New
        +4
        Quote: Thrall
        Gas in European countries does not belong to Gazprom anyway.

        and it is delivered on an advance payment, I wonder - how to seize an advance payment?
        1. Mih1974
          Mih1974 13 March 2018 13: 38 New
          +4
          Well, how would the EU transfer money to the ancient Sumerians, or rather, it reports that it was set off from the debts of the Sumerians, and Gazprom supplies the EU with gas for free !! fool The fact that Gazprom simply sends ALL of the “smartest” where it should be, it seems nobody is going to think.
          1. Partyzan
            Partyzan 13 March 2018 13: 41 New
            +2
            Quote: Mih1974
            Well, how would the EU transfer money to the ancient Sumerians, or rather, it reports that it was set off from the debts of the Sumerians, and Gazprom supplies the EU with gas for free !! fool The fact that Gazprom simply sends ALL of the “smartest” where it should be, it seems nobody is going to think.

            Well, it would be logical, if I transferred the money to you, I should demand gas from you, and not from Uncle Vasya, because I believe that he will send me, and far away - to Peru
      2. Vkd dvk
        Vkd dvk 13 March 2018 13: 47 New
        0
        Quote: Thrall
        I explain: in this case, we will impose penalties on gas belonging to Gazprom in European countries, and not in Ukraine.

        Gas in European countries does not belong to Gazprom anyway.

        So go on. If this is no longer the property of Gazprom, then how can it be selected in favor of Naftogaz? I mean Gazprom?
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 13 March 2018 14: 37 New
          +3
          It is on the Ukraine-EU border that gas ceases to be Gazprom!
          There was a time when Ukrainians really wanted to take it away on our border in order to pass it on to the EU themselves, but no one gave it to them. Now I understand why. bully
          Did they even forget how to think there?
          1. Vkd dvk
            Vkd dvk 16 March 2018 10: 51 New
            0
            Quote: Alex777
            It is on the Ukraine-EU border that gas ceases to be Gazprom!
            There was a time when Ukrainians really wanted to take it away on our border in order to pass it on to the EU themselves, but no one gave it to them. Now I understand why. bully
            Did they even forget how to think there?

            They never knew how to think.
      3. Lelek
        Lelek 13 March 2018 17: 29 New
        0
        Quote: Thrall
        Gas in European countries does not belong to Gazprom anyway.

        hi
        Yes, all this - dill crap, Wishlist. How can Ruin impose a fine on the goods paid and received by the buyer? Blah blah id *** ov.
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 13 March 2018 13: 00 New
      +2
      there are always few. and there will not be enough pipes.
      it is necessary to DEVELOP (not to diversify) your mash-auto-chemical industry-shoes and clothes + machine-tool prom to the peak of Western deliveries.
      HERE AND LITTLE WILL BE FOR PARTNERS
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 13 March 2018 13: 00 New
      +1
      If dill begin to impose penalties on the gas that goes through the pipe to Europe, then Europe will again impose on Ukraine, so they won’t wash it off. belay
    4. Serge Gorely
      Serge Gorely 13 March 2018 13: 20 New
      +1
      I wonder at the sky and I’m wondering why I haven’t sung, why I don’t pour? ....
      Wet mrius of the Sumerians touches to tears!
  2. dog breeder
    dog breeder 13 March 2018 12: 51 New
    +2
    Another "twist". What else can you tell from overseas? Even if Gazprom pays these lard, then what? And to the bottom still oh how far! Ahead of the nineteenth, what else will be ...
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 13 March 2018 13: 19 New
      0
      Quote: dog breeder
      Another "twist". What else can you tell from overseas?

      Yes, most likely not a clue. own nonsense. at the prompt they look a little smarter laughing
  3. Dezinto
    Dezinto 13 March 2018 12: 51 New
    +5
    Ukraine as usual:
    "Neighbor, give something to eat, otherwise you have nothing to shit at the door" ... ©
    1. Partyzan
      Partyzan 13 March 2018 13: 02 New
      +3
      Quote: DEZINTO
      "Neighbor, give something to eat, otherwise you have nothing to spoil at the door" ...

      what? Poles and apples clamped? laughing
  4. askort154
    askort154 13 March 2018 12: 51 New
    +2
    It’s good that Facebook does not transmit a smell.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 March 2018 12: 52 New
    +2
    And what? There is some logic in this. Part of the money for gas supplied from Europe will not go to Gazprom’s accounts, but to Naftogaz’s accounts. By decision of the European court. It doesn’t matter to Europeans ... They bought gas ... In the order of Russophobia - they can "shit". wassat
    1. Vard
      Vard 13 March 2018 12: 55 New
      +1
      Theoretically, yes ... but practically Europe understands that summer will pass and winter will come again ... But then ...
    2. dog breeder
      dog breeder 13 March 2018 12: 55 New
      +1
      If such a clause is in the contract. And so it is unlikely. even a court decision is made on the basis of something.
    3. askort154
      askort154 13 March 2018 12: 57 New
      0
      Mountain shooter ... It doesn’t matter to Europeans ... They bought gas ... In the order of Russophobia - they can "shit". wassat

      Although the Europeans have turned into rabid Russophobia, they will not shoot themselves in the foot because of the Ukrainians. fool
    4. Thrall
      Thrall 13 March 2018 12: 57 New
      +3
      The funny thing is that Gazprom does not refuse to pay by arbitration decision. Just while the appeal is filed.
      1. Vard
        Vard 13 March 2018 13: 00 New
        0
        In principle, it’s cheaper now to pay ... And with this sauce, finally push Nord Stream 2 ... it may well be that everything was started for this ...
      2. dog breeder
        dog breeder 13 March 2018 13: 01 New
        +2
        Well then !!! They need something to eat before the appeal!
      3. Alex-a832
        Alex-a832 13 March 2018 13: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: Thrall
        The funny thing is that Gazprom does not refuse to pay by arbitration decision. Just while the appeal is filed.

        Given that not only economics but also geopolitics are at stake, Gazprom is not fussing. Ukraine and its owners are already full of this. Their losses are not comparable to those of Gazprom.
    5. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 13 March 2018 13: 00 New
      0
      Well, in this case, the demonstration will not be a "bad supplier" from Russia, but a "inadequate consumer" in Europe. Here, Gazprom will be able to file a counterclaim against consumers in Europe. Ukraine is doing everything so that the transit of gas through its territory eventually ceases completely.
      1. BAI
        BAI 13 March 2018 13: 14 New
        0
        file a counterclaim against consumers in Europe.

        Which court? The arbitration court has already decided that it is not necessary to choose the ordered volumes of gas.
        1. x.andvlad
          x.andvlad 13 March 2018 15: 34 New
          0
          In which court, let the well-paid lawyers understand this.
          We better penalize gas after it enters European markets
          And the essence of the claim is the underpayment for gas to consumers from Europe (in favor of Naftogaz, as Vitrenko wishes), which they bought from Gazprom. But there are very big doubts that the Europeans will so "kill" for Ukraine, one can say to their own detriment.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 March 2018 12: 53 New
    +2
    From the eternal thirst for a freebie and the desire to receive it now and a lot of hearts can not stand it. What remains and wish the "cunning" Ukrainian officials, businessmen.
  7. Herculesic
    Herculesic 13 March 2018 12: 55 New
    +3
    A log was sitting in Naftogaz,
    Bosko did not think it lol
    For thought, opa
    There was only lol !!!
  8. Romario_Argo
    Romario_Argo 13 March 2018 12: 56 New
    +4
    how much patience and endurance our politicians have (!), I would have already smeared this Ukraine with thermonuclear ammunition
    1. Evdokim
      Evdokim 13 March 2018 13: 38 New
      0
      Quote: Romario_Argo
      I would have already smeared this Ukraine with thermonuclear ammunition

      With fusion ammunition it’s too fat for the horses, we’ll wait, as one wise Chinese man used to say, and the troupe of ardent ukrodeby will swim down the Dnieper ... fishing. They will destroy each other, because the food supply is decreasing. hi
    2. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 13 March 2018 14: 04 New
      0
      too close to the borders of Russia and Belarus ... was there not enough Chernobyl?
  9. groks
    groks 13 March 2018 12: 56 New
    0
    This is unrealistic. Probably the only one possible - based on the decision of the arbitration, to withdraw money from Western banks that already belong to Gazprom. Will bankers go for it?
  10. Masya masya
    Masya masya 13 March 2018 12: 58 New
    +4
    the bundle will be tied up and will no longer be untied ... the freebie is over ... wink
  11. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 13 March 2018 13: 01 New
    +3
    Soon Ukraine is so embarrassed by the EU that at first they will shy away from it as from a leper, and then they will offer Russia a bargain, if only they would take away the lecherous and put things in order in this gadyushnik. (I am sure in the first part, and the second is just a joke in the style of O'Henry)
  12. Esoteric
    Esoteric 13 March 2018 13: 05 New
    0
    I don’t understand something, Ukraine paid us all debts or something remains from $ 3 belay
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 13 March 2018 13: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: Esoteric
      I don’t understand something, Ukraine paid us all debts or something remains from $ 3

      nobody recalls this anymore
  13. BAI
    BAI 13 March 2018 13: 11 New
    0
    If my memory serves me right, settlement with Europe occurs after the gas crosses the border of Europe and Ukraine, according to the readings of meters on the European side. After the counter - European gas, it is believed that delivered, then disassemble themselves. It seems to me.
    Therefore, if Naftogaz is to be caught, it is only on the territory of Ukraine.
  14. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 13 March 2018 13: 21 New
    0
    the truth for the sake of me is more interested in how we will collect debts from ukrov, otherwise everything goes to the point that we will reimburse all of this from our feed after another tariff increase
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 13 March 2018 14: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      the truth for the sake of me is more interested in how we will collect debts from ukrov

      I'm afraid that you already answered this question in the second part of your message
  15. K-50
    K-50 13 March 2018 13: 45 New
    +1
    did Vitrenko understand his own “logic"?

    The maydown of the mind of the pan-legged does not imply the presence of logic, only the pathos of utterances. yes
  16. sgr291158
    sgr291158 13 March 2018 13: 57 New
    +1
    Well it is necessary to think of such a thing.
  17. Zomanus
    Zomanus 13 March 2018 14: 03 New
    +1
    These are just Ukrainians ...
    And until Europe understands what kind of people it is, it will fall on money and reputation.
    And America, the support of the Ukrainian government costs a little,
    on the other hand, there are a lot of benefits in the plan to constantly bring discord and have reason to kick Russia.
  18. rocket757
    rocket757 13 March 2018 14: 09 New
    +1
    Dismantling in a long and sho result in ?????
  19. Bypassed
    Bypassed 13 March 2018 14: 14 New
    +3
    After the appeal has expired and the arbitral award has entered into force, the easiest way is to offset the debts - Ukraine, according to the decision of the London court, should owe Russia $ 3 billion - but still will not give it back. But don’t sell gas, they accused Gazprom of monopolism - well, let’s buy from others
  20. uav80
    uav80 13 March 2018 15: 42 New
    +3
    It’s just that by accident such an accident will happen on the Ukrainian gas transport system that there’s just nothing to pump and take gas through ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 13 March 2018 15: 50 New
      +1
      Yes, they will take it apart! Once, so right away ... those who want to fight, do not disperse!
  21. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 13 March 2018 16: 54 New
    0
    And my grandmother in this case would definitely say: a bad thought is wealth!
  22. APASUS
    APASUS 13 March 2018 19: 22 New
    +1
    Vitrenko’s head doesn’t hurt.
    Gazprom in Europe is full of accounts and there are assets to be seized. Well, Vitrenko is following the trend of Ukrainian politics and everyone is discussing how they will punish Gazprom and Russia. But in fact, you need to think about what to make up for the $ 2-2,5 billion loss to the country's budget. And given that the GTS gives the country almost 50 thousand jobs, you have to seriously , because they can also raise the forks?