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Race-2018. Grudinin - for the abolition of the moratorium on the death penalty, Sobchak calls opponents clowns

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Presidential candidate Pavel Grudinin visited the radio station Echo of Moscowwhere he became a guest of the "A-Team" program. And if earlier Grudinina (before joining the pre-election race) was perceived by the Echo audience in a sufficiently neutral manner, now his statements cause a real storm of emotions.


One of the statements of the presidential candidate Pavel Grudinin, especially excited the audience. According to the candidate of the Communist Party, the Communist Party is not included, he is in favor of the abolition of the moratorium on the death penalty in respect of maniacs and pedophiles.

From the statement of Grudinin:
I am in favor of lifting the moratorium for pedophiles, for maniacs.


Recall that in Russia there is a moratorium on the death penalty for all categories of convicted criminals. The death penalty is replaced by a life sentence.

Another candidate for the presidency of Russia - Ksenia Sobchak - once again attracted particular attention during the debate. Speaking on the air TVC channel, she actually called the majority of Russians who came to the polls from 2000, "suckers."

Race-2018. Grudinin - for the abolition of the moratorium on the death penalty, Sobchak calls opponents clowns


Quote:
About the "suckers" and other things. If people of 18 have been choosing the same power for years, not understanding what all this leads to, then how else are they called? We were denied the right to vote. We have a choice. I came the opposite way to say, do not be suckers who come to the casino in the hope of winning the golden key. You are bred to the polls, when in fact there is no choice. These clowns are presented to you here (points to other participants in debates - note “IN”) to show what looks like real elections.


Such a statement Sobchak made after another candidate - Vladimir Zhirinovsky - demonstrated in the studio the previously published book Xenia Sobchak "The Encyclopedia of the Sucker".

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  1. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 12 March 2018 18: 18
    +64
    And who is against the death penalty - pedophile maniacs? belay
    P.S. And by the way, no one except Grudinin offers a progressive taxation scale.
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 12 March 2018 18: 24
      +8
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      And by the way, no one except Grudinin offers a progressive taxation scale

      The team of "Darkest" offered (I do not remember the name) Three-step scale
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 12 March 2018 18: 26
        +44
        Quote: Chertt
        proposed

        But things are there. request They are probably afraid that Depardieu will renounce citizenship. laughing
        1. faiver
          faiver 12 March 2018 19: 35
          +10
          what a loss to society laughing
          1. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 12 March 2018 20: 43
            +26
            Ksenia wants - so that in House 2
            Submerged - The whole country!
            Zhirinovsky - annealing
            And Yavlinsky - even calls!
            GDP - threatens success, us military and on this
            Background says something ...
            What is the country that sold grain
            Only who became easier?
            For - products, pay three times
            Medicine - involuntarily
            Oligarchs - Bred
            The poor ....
            Not in the post - fasted.
            And whom RUSSIA - MOTHER!
            Will you order me to choose?
            To - the children were better
            Isn't education the worst?

            Here is the wisdom of the Russians (damn)
            Where you throw - EVERYWHERE WEDGE!

            Regards A.A.
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 13 March 2018 00: 19
              +7
              I came on the contrary to say, do not be suckers who come to the casino in the hope of winning a golden key

              I recalled a joke of the late 90s laughing
              DO NOT BE A SUCH !!!
              WENT SMS "NOT SUCH" TO NUMBER 7755,
              THAN MORE SMS - THEN MORE YOU ARE NOT SUCH !!!
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 12 March 2018 20: 41
          +8
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          They are probably afraid that Depardieu will renounce citizenship.

          I talked with the locals from Saransk; no one else had ever seen him in Saransk. Recently I read, I adopted a new citizenship, well, I don’t want to pay taxes at home!
          1. Alf
            Alf 12 March 2018 21: 31
            +4
            Quote: Silvestr
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            They are probably afraid that Depardieu will renounce citizenship.

            I talked with the locals from Saransk; no one else had ever seen him in Saransk. Recently I read, I adopted a new citizenship, well, I don’t want to pay taxes at home!

            But as they immediately all ignited with fiery love for Russia, and Depardieu, and Seagal, and the fighter, I do not remember the name. And the casket just opens, money is a pity. That’s the true face of these "stars" showed up - for loot no homeland is needed, wherever you want to dump.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 13 March 2018 00: 04
              +15
              Quote: Alf
              But as they immediately all ignited with fiery love for Russia, and Depardieu, and Seagal, and the fighter, I do not remember the name. And the casket just opens, money is a pity. That’s the true face of these "stars" showed up - for loot no homeland is needed, wherever you want to dump.

              Where the pope is warm - there is the homeland ... Cho, the first time or something, is this visible? ...
              I’ve frozen my back part of the body for my Motherland and fried it - only the Motherland means something more to me than my fifth point ....
              1. sapporo1959
                sapporo1959 13 March 2018 00: 50
                +1
                Something you compared the Motherland with the fifth point, but this is so not patriotic! They would write that they just frozen eggs and it would have been more decent ...
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 13 March 2018 01: 02
                  +12
                  Quote: sapporo1959
                  Something you compared the Motherland with the fifth point, but this is so not patriotic! They would write that they just frozen eggs and it would have been more decent ...

                  I can’t compare the homeland with my ass - I just said that there are people for whom it’s warm where the priest is, the homeland is there. And for me there is a Motherland - and there ... Where I sent, it was fried there, soaked, frozen and various other troubles .... True, I was not in Antarctica. In Australia too. And on the other continents, on the orders of the Motherland, he was cold and roasted, and everything else .... Twenty-odd calendars ...
                  1. astronom1973n
                    astronom1973n 13 March 2018 05: 26
                    +2
                    Quote: Zoldat_A
                    And on the other continents, on the orders of the Motherland, he was cold and roasted, and everything else .... Twenty-odd calendars ...

                    It was our military duty.
            2. BecmepH
              BecmepH 13 March 2018 05: 50
              +1
              Quote: Alf
              fighter

              Well, this guy from his youth loved and respected the USSR first and then Russia. He is even punctured by our symbols. Russian has no such portakas. n \ I do not block it. So, the information ...
              1. Alf
                Alf 13 March 2018 18: 12
                0
                Quote: BecmepH
                Well, this guy from his youth loved and respected the USSR first and then Russia.

                Only lived for some reason in America. Like all our super-athletes, I’ll put my life for Russia, I will participate in all the Olympiads under a white rag, but I prefer to live in America.
            3. Hort
              Hort 13 March 2018 14: 42
              0
              Manson is kind of ideological, he even planned to open MMA school either in Crimea or in Sochi
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 12 March 2018 23: 09
            +4
            He had long gone to Belgium, where he called Russia a dirty barn.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 13 March 2018 00: 09
              +9
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              He had long gone to Belgium, where he called Russia a dirty barn.

              I will not even talk here about the names that appear in my head for France ....
              PS I love French cinema and know it very well, but as soon as I get distracted from the artistic component and pay attention to everyday life - so it’s better where the barn is ... And if you recall the "occupation" - it’s not a barn, but a brothel ... It’s also dirty. ...
            2. sapporo1959
              sapporo1959 13 March 2018 00: 12
              +2
              He only lovingly called it a barn. They are shy of the French and that they would not introduce a stupor of other patriots in a modest way ...
      2. 210ox
        210ox 12 March 2018 18: 49
        +9
        The scale of pedophiles and maniacs? One criterion is visitors and employees of the Echo. Grudinin came there in vain ..
        Quote: Chertt
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        And by the way, no one except Grudinin offers a progressive taxation scale

        The team of "Darkest" offered (I do not remember the name) Three-step scale
        1. assa67
          assa67 12 March 2018 19: 04
          +36
          and where did these candidates come from? on the "echo" ... a disgrace ... what a heap is the communist in FIG? the same liberalist
          1. Tatanka Yotanka
            Tatanka Yotanka 12 March 2018 19: 37
            +7
            Quote: assa67
            and where did these candidates come from? on the echo ... shame

            a thin tree gives a thin fruit, the flesh of the flesh is fed up with the "national heritage" of the nearest effective one, try to blame the authorities for political masochism fellowor the same liberalist?

            1. assa67
              assa67 12 March 2018 19: 45
              +10
              eva, my friend, where did you get ... can you put it a little more clearly?
              1. Tatanka Yotanka
                Tatanka Yotanka 12 March 2018 19: 59
                +19
                Quote: assa67
                can I put it a little more clearly?

                Moscow echo finances Gazprom fellow
                1. assa67
                  assa67 12 March 2018 20: 06
                  +8
                  didn’t know ... did Gazprom know?
                  1. Tatanka Yotanka
                    Tatanka Yotanka 12 March 2018 20: 12
                    +16
                    Quote: assa67
                    really?

                    Well, what you really need to know the enemy, or as you call now, a liberal friend))) https://ria.ru/society/20160512/1431990104.html
                    1. assa67
                      assa67 13 March 2018 09: 40
                      +2
                      it seems to me more liberal from you for a mile or a rushing ... clumsy work
                      1. Tatanka Yotanka
                        Tatanka Yotanka 13 March 2018 12: 15
                        +1
                        Quote: assa67
                        it seems to me

                        need to be baptized fellow
                        Quote: assa67
                        more liberal from you per mile rushing

                        treat your nose because I'm not near, maybe from a TV with state channels, to the sponsors, as I understand it, there are no complaints
                        Quote: assa67
                        clumsy work

                        the tool is simple, here are jewelry sayings yes)) - we don’t know everything, we don’t understand everything, especially the guarantor’s sayings about effective
                  2. New Year day
                    New Year day 12 March 2018 20: 43
                    +18
                    Quote: assa67
                    Does Gazprom know?

                    Of course. Since November 2001, the radio station has been part of the Gazprom Media holding.
                    1. assa67
                      assa67 13 March 2018 09: 41
                      +2
                      well, sometimes hungry obs .... go to the toilet ... democracy her mother
                2. Petr petrov
                  Petr petrov 13 March 2018 03: 35
                  +1
                  That is the state !!!!
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 12 March 2018 19: 46
            +14
            Quote: assa67
            and where did these candidates come from? on the echo ... shame.

            I agree, disgrace! Shoigu already disgraced twice, in 2008 and 2013! wassat
            1. assa67
              assa67 12 March 2018 19: 49
              +4
              still 5 years no stocks lol
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 12 March 2018 20: 42
                +6
                still 5 years no stocks

                Andrei, they’d expect this from him.
                wink
          3. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 13 March 2018 00: 11
            +6
            Quote: assa67
            and where did these candidates come from? on the "echo" ... a disgrace ... what a heap is the communist in FIG? the same liberalist

            Traditionally - where can I put a hundred pluses?
        2. Vita vko
          Vita vko 12 March 2018 20: 22
          +2
          Quote: 210ox
          The scale of pedophiles and maniacs? One criterion is visitors and employees of the Echo. Grudinin came there in vain ..

          Killing is a sin, except if you defended or saved the lives of others. A politician or a state assuming the “responsibility” of God damn itself. If it is possible to save life without compromising the safety of society, then you must try to save. You just can not imagine how some life-prisoners repent. Only atheists can advocate the death penalty.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 12 March 2018 20: 38
            +13
            Quote: Vita VKO
            only atheists can advocate the death penalty.

            And to keep alive one who can take other people's lives divine? belay
          2. cast iron
            cast iron 12 March 2018 21: 13
            +18
            THIS is only until the scumbag does not kill or cripple your family and friends. YOURS.
          3. Alf
            Alf 12 March 2018 21: 36
            +14
            Quote: Vita VKO
            You just can not imagine how some life-prisoners repent.

            I already feel sorry for them.
            Quote: Vita VKO
            If it is possible to save life without compromising public safety,

            Any ideas how to do this? As they say, Eye for an eye, blood for blood?
            Quote: Vita VKO
            Killing is a sin, except if you defended or saved the lives of others.

            So before the execution was called the Higher Measure of Social Protection. The state was the one that saved the lives of its citizens.
            1. Mestny
              Mestny 12 March 2018 22: 04
              0
              Yeah, it was called. Only in another state, the USSR.
              He has been gone for 27 years.
          4. Igor V
            Igor V 12 March 2018 22: 59
            +6
            The mere presence of the death penalty stops a potential criminal.
            By the way, the Americans - "atheists" - both fried and continue to fry their criminals. And we are supposed to align with the most democratic democracy in history.
          5. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 13 March 2018 00: 23
            +11
            Quote: Vita VKO
            Killing is a sin, except if you defended or saved the lives of others.

            Have you forgotten about the defense of the Fatherland? I, in defense, can not kill. And advancing, fighting for the homeland, I only think that BC would not end ....
            Quote: Vita VKO
            If it is possible to save life without compromising the safety of society, then you must try to save.

            Imagine Chikatilo or Slivko today ... Is this a detriment to the safety of society or not? And meanwhile, today I would feed them from the taxes of my enterprise. Thank God, not from retirement - they don’t take taxes from it .....
            And further...
            Quote: Vita VKO
            Only atheists can advocate the death penalty.

            You know, I heard somewhere that there are no atheists in a war. So here I’ll tell you, dear, that in a war you need to think about a war and live a war. What do you think, who will survive - who once again will clean the weapon and check the BC or the one who will devote this time to prayer?
            Although, if the weapon and everything else is in order, if at any moment I’m ready to tear myself down by the order of the devil’s horns, then for the sake of all gods ... Even if they pray to the wheel, I wouldn’t mind.
            Although without Faith, too, is impossible. In my battalion, the boys believed in the Trinity. Only not Christian. The other is the Airborne Forces, the AKC and Ya himself. Three things that will not fail, will not sell and will not refuse ...
        3. Hey
          Hey 12 March 2018 20: 37
          +13
          Yes, he would be glad to come to 1 and Russia1, so the authorities are afraid to let him go there, at least some alternative
          The debate doesn’t count, in 2 minutes you don’t tell either opponent to listen.
      3. Alf
        Alf 12 March 2018 20: 15
        +13
        Quote: Chertt
        The team of "Darkest" offered (I do not remember the name) Three-step scale

        It was. Moreover, they suggested such a scale that the oligarchs, friends of Vova, remained at 13%.
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      4. 406ppm2gv
        406ppm2gv 12 March 2018 23: 33
        +10
        Forgot what he said? What if we introduce a progressive scale, then some entrepreneurs (that is, billionaires) will go into the “shadow”! and the president said it!
        1. sapporo1959
          sapporo1959 13 March 2018 00: 16
          +3
          The billionaire is in the shadows, and even in our country it is generally more from the realm of fantastic stories from the government ..
        2. Petr petrov
          Petr petrov 13 March 2018 03: 38
          0
          That is, a percentage less will be rolled off to him, this is not an order ... !!!!!!
    2. taiga2018
      taiga2018 12 March 2018 18: 26
      +24
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      And who is against the death penalty

      Grudinin himself, if he had been elected president, would immediately backtrack, and how fashionably speaking he would veil his election promise, because in Europe, where his money is and his little son lives, they may not understand ...
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 12 March 2018 18: 36
        +30
        Quote: taiga2018
        if he was elected president, he would immediately back down

        Keyword - WOULD! good
        Quote: taiga2018
        where is his money

        Switzerland responded to the request, and indicated that Grudinin on 31.12.2017/XNUMX/XNUMX IT WAS 13 accounts totaling about $ 1 million. This was said by Pamfilova, yesterday in the evening Vesti. Now the accounts are closed, and neither the CEC nor anyone else can prove the opposite.
        And about sons - write in the search engine "children of officials abroad", you will be" pleasantly "surprised by the number of children of members of United Russia and the Federation Council over the hill. wink
        1. taiga2018
          taiga2018 12 March 2018 18: 47
          +4
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          children of officials abroad

          that’s why these officials didn’t propose such measures, and Grudinin wouldn’t offer it, but you won’t do anything for the sake of attracting the votes of the electorate ... once again, if elected, he will simply “forget” about this promise, and when they will ask an uncomfortable question will just ignore how he already does it ...
          1. cast iron
            cast iron 12 March 2018 21: 14
            +14
            Therefore, we continue to vote for Putin and EdRo. People ate a cactus, choked on pain, but still ate a cactus)))
            1. dauria
              dauria 12 March 2018 22: 07
              +7
              People ate a cactus, choked on pain, but still ate a cactus


              Not too presumptuous for all the people to speak? wink
              I’m personally tired of teachings, appeals, explanations about the "abyss", "decay", "doomsday". As well as stories about "bright prospects and victories." It is worth entering a year of silence before the election, not a day.
            2. Esoteric
              Esoteric 13 March 2018 03: 55
              +4
              Quote: cast iron
              Therefore, we continue to vote for Putin and EdRo. People ate a cactus, choked on pain, but still ate a cactus)))

            3. perm23
              perm23 13 March 2018 06: 02
              +4
              but not for the sternum which is brazenly lying. there is no state farm named after Lenin. there is no such enterprise at all. There is a Closed Joint-Stock Company. where he and his children are shareholders. and he has 46% of the shares. Let him at least learn from the beginning not to lie
              1. Warlock_r
                Warlock_r 13 March 2018 09: 28
                +3
                And for whom?
                As I understand it, GDP doesn’t lie. Sobchak - not lying. Zhirik - not lying. Of all 8 candidates, only Grudinin is lying?
                By the way, what shoals did he dig there besides accounts? I looked, and didn’t find anything serious.
                And about whom to vote for, I think so. The current domestic policy of the guarantor does not suit me. It has not fundamentally changed since the 2000s. Consequently, while maintaining GDP, it will not change. Zhirinovsky for the whole time finding himself beloved at the trough did nothing. I do not take Sobchak seriously, and her attitude towards me, as a voter, offends me. All in all ... from the beach. The alternative, in fact, is only Grudinin. Not the fact that it will be better with him, but with him there is at least a ghostly chance. Actually, that’s the whole logic.
                1. perm23
                  perm23 13 March 2018 13: 40
                  +1
                  Once again, believe the Communists. who in a few days ruined a great country. who threw their party cards did not come out to defend not the USSR, not the CPSU. And after how many years the new Gorbach and Borka the drunkard will come. Which again will ruin everything. Sorry, no. and entrust the country to a person. who from his first steps immediately lies in everything. and about the alleged state farm. although there is no state farm, but there is a CJSC. Which signs the document of the Central Executive Committee and does not see what it signs .. Better a bird in the hands. than such a crane. I don’t want to believe the new MMM and Lena Golubkov anymore.
                  1. cast iron
                    cast iron 13 March 2018 23: 35
                    +1
                    At the same time, you willingly believe Putin, who in 1991, like all the KGB, sold the USSR for dollars.
        2. SOF
          SOF 12 March 2018 19: 17
          +19
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Now the accounts are closed, and no CEC, no one else can prove otherwise

          ... oh well ... Switzerland proves that ... no figs are closed ... About which it will be reflected, by pasting, on information sheets, at polling stations. Although, what could be easier ... bring a certificate-account from a Swiss bank stating that I transferred assets to Russian banks and publish this certificate, even on social networks ... Well, after all, no !!! It’s easier for us to shout from the stands of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation that all this is a PROVOCATION !!! ... These are all stuffing, of bloody, thieving authorities, called upon only to discredit the immaculate candidate !!! ...
          You yourself are not funny to hear such excuses?
          Where did the babosiki go? Dissolved? Went to charity? Are you drunk? Where is the money Zin ???
          And the kids, not some officials there that you’re used to blaming, but specifically the president of the whole state can always be taken for eggs. By default ... And then, if he is a father, not a cuckoo - twist them, aki weather vane, in any direction available ...

          You blinkers, chtol, put on your head .... chez word. Turn on the brain .... in the end .....
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 12 March 2018 20: 12
            +21
            Quote: SOF
            Switzerland proves that ... no figs are closed.

            Listen carefully to the words of Pamfilova, I spoke in yesterday’s news.
            Quote: SOF
            And the kids, not some officials there

            Peskov, the assistant to the president is not some kind of official. Son, if I’m not mistaken in London. Lavrov's daughter lives in the United States. Ilya Medvedev said that training will continue in the United States. With Yakunin, children live in Switzerland and in England.
            All of you nafig "potreoty", there is no marine corps on you.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 12 March 2018 20: 46
              +16
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Son, if I’m not mistaken in London.

              and judge there for robbery (I'm afraid to get hooked)
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              With Yakunin, children live in Switzerland and in England.

              and he went there along with the "honestly earned"
              1. kush62
                kush62 12 March 2018 21: 05
                +3
                Silvestr Today, 20:46 PM ↑ New
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Son, if I’m not mistaken in London.

                and judge there for robbery (I'm afraid to get hooked)
                I watched the movie "Resident's Magic" once laughing laughing laughing
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 12 March 2018 21: 22
                  +10
                  According to the transcript of the English court, Choules's full namesake was prosecuted in 2009. According to the document, in 2009 he attacked a girl whose phone was taken away, and a few weeks before the attack he was sentenced to ten months probation for another attack. The deadlines in two cases were summarized, and Chowles spent more than a year in an English prison.
                  Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov said that he had heard about this side of the life of his son Nicolae Choles
              2. Colonel
                Colonel 13 March 2018 07: 33
                +3
                Quote: Silvestr
                magical

                Spelling No. 1 - Unstressed vowels are stressed. Verification Word - "Error"
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 14 March 2018 01: 32
                  0
                  accepted, byvat
            2. SOF
              SOF 12 March 2018 22: 15
              +4
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              the fig is not closed.
              Listen carefully to the words of Pamfilova, I spoke in yesterday’s news.

              ... I listened most attentively ... She, by the way, was specially for you, who “listen especially carefully” about the sticker, information, in the appropriate stands and said .....
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Peskov, the assistant to the president is not some kind of official. Son, if I’m not mistaken in London. Lavrov's daughter

              ... well, here’s the oil painting. Thank you for confirming my statement, because I’m talking about Ivan, and you’ll tell me everything about the drum.
              Lavrov, Peskov ... and other, other ... I can imagine how you were buzzing, if the children lived in a foreign country at the supreme - so NO ... sadness ... Your little scheme is not glued ... They are at home. DISCLAIM ????? Well ka .......... weak ??
              A little button, red, treasured ... who to push ... if need be? Lavrov .... or Peskov ... or who else do you have there to justify the children of your candidate abroad ???

              Quote: Ingvar 72
              All of you nafig "potreoty", there is no marine corps on you.

              Marines .... Have you asked them? Those who are now marines, and not those who live here on the site?
            3. Watabango
              Watabango 12 March 2018 23: 59
              0
              Lavrov’s daughter unlearned there and lives in Russia already, there was the same story as he transported
            4. perm23
              perm23 13 March 2018 06: 06
              0
              do not grind nonsense. Lavrov’s daughter lives in Russia like Medvedev’s son. Peskov has many children from different wives.
          2. Petr petrov
            Petr petrov 13 March 2018 03: 44
            0
            And that banks in Switzerland began to disclose data to their customers ??????
            It can not be!!!!!
            1. perm23
              perm23 13 March 2018 06: 07
              +2
              Maybe a few years ago such an international law was adopted. USA and Germany sold.
            2. SOF
              SOF 13 March 2018 06: 28
              +3
              Quote: Petr petrov
              And that banks in Switzerland began to disclose data to their customers ??????
              It can not be!!!!!

              Is the earth round? And she, the Earth, "spinning"?
              Your lack of desire to acknowledge the presence of a gopher in the field does not cancel, however, the fact of its existence.
          3. Petr petrov
            Petr petrov 13 March 2018 03: 46
            +5
            House of Putin's daughter in France, Biarritz ... !!!!!!!
            https://youtu.be/EFEwN6gFMDw
            1. SOF
              SOF 13 March 2018 06: 36
              +3
              Quote: Petr petrov
              House of Putin's daughter in France, Biarritz ... !!!!!!!
              https://youtu.be/EFEwN6gFMDw

              ... wow !!!! ... laughing
              And show the house of the “angel” sonny from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, in the Baltic states? lol
              And give a reference to the cottage in Spain ....?
              Kids, "angel", where ???
              Who will answer this question to me?
              And yes .... ISCHO the question: "And where is the money Zin?"
          4. Warlock_r
            Warlock_r 13 March 2018 09: 33
            0
            You are at your leisure, ask about the children of the current president of the Russian Federation and where they now live.

            “You have blinkers, chtol, on your head ... they’re cheating a word. Turn on your brain .... in the end ....” (C)
            1. SOF
              SOF 13 March 2018 10: 17
              0
              Quote: Warlock_r
              You are at your leisure, ask about the children of the current president of the Russian Federation and where they now live.

              “You have blinkers, chtol, on your head ... they’re cheating a word. Turn on your brain .... in the end ....” (C)

              ....Well.... "Lift my eyelids !!!" laughing
              What else is the same FEARFULLY "revelatory" like ...
              Quote: Petr petrov
              House of Putin's daughter in France, Biarritz ... !!!!!!!
              https://youtu.be/EFEwN6gFMDw

              ... did you find on YouTube?
              ... or not on YouTube? wink Maybe on "ECHO" prompt?
              .... and you know (!!!) ... if you read the site of the US State Department or the Foreign Office of the GB, then ...... THERE CAN BE FINDED !!! In the century, the supreme will not wash off laughing
              ... or look at CCN ...

              ====================
              ... and in the end. Maybe someone will stop moving off the topic and answer:
              Kids, "angel", where ???
              ... and where is Zin’s money?
          5. cast iron
            cast iron 13 March 2018 23: 36
            0
            Actually, Putin has one daughter living abroad.
        3. sir_obs
          sir_obs 12 March 2018 19: 21
          +9
          Yes, Fgrulinin simply does not pull on the president. He can neither hold on nor speak, but never heard of foreign policy at all. Is Slavkhoz Negt advanced? Well, even if he is engaged in state farms, but the president is none of it.
          1. Alf
            Alf 12 March 2018 20: 18
            +18
            Quote: sir_obs
            Yes, Fgrulinin simply does not pull on the president. He can neither hold on nor speak, but never heard of foreign policy at all. Is Slavkhoz Negt advanced?

            You write in Russian, otherwise an incomprehensible set of words is obtained.
            1. Igor V
              Igor V 12 March 2018 22: 51
              +6
              Quote: Alf
              Quote: sir_obs
              Yes, Fgrulinin simply does not pull on the president. He can neither hold on nor speak, but never heard of foreign policy at all. Is Slavkhoz Negt advanced?

              You write in Russian, otherwise an incomprehensible set of words is obtained.

              Yes, there are thoughts that cannot be expressed in normal words. request
          2. cast iron
            cast iron 12 March 2018 21: 15
            +9
            You look at Putin's 2000 model. He really could not talk. Learned.
            1. Alf
              Alf 12 March 2018 21: 27
              +11
              Quote: cast iron
              You look at Putin's 2000 model. He really could not talk. Learned.

              Not studied too long? Still, in the yard of 2018 ...
          3. Petr petrov
            Petr petrov 13 March 2018 03: 41
            +5
            And the slave from the galley than directed ... !!!!
            The manager of the club in Germany ... !!!!!!
            1. cast iron
              cast iron 13 March 2018 23: 37
              +3
              In 1991, the slave from the galley, like all the KGB, changed the USSR Homeland for dollars and posts.
        4. Mestny
          Mestny 12 March 2018 22: 08
          +5
          What is characteristic, the CEC does not prove. Acts strictly by law. But it is clear to the fighters against the regime that the authorities were scared.
          But by the way, ask - where are the children of Comrade Grudinin? Is it not abroad?
          1. Petr petrov
            Petr petrov 13 March 2018 03: 39
            +6
            Ask Putin where his children are !!!!
      2. Alf
        Alf 12 March 2018 20: 16
        +5
        Quote: taiga2018
        I would immediately back down and

        How is it known?
      3. Petr petrov
        Petr petrov 13 March 2018 03: 38
        +2
        For your slave, do not measure others !!!!!!!
    3. vlad66
      vlad66 12 March 2018 18: 34
      +30
      Well, srach and propaganda continue, Thank God that there is a week left until the end of this orgy. Where everyone promises, and after the election they forget. yes
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        1. Tersky
          Tersky 12 March 2018 19: 00
          +12
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Yes, if you recall all of Putin’s promises!

          Igor, this one
          Russian presidential candidate Pavel Grudinin visits the radio station Ekho Moskvy
          enough to overwhelm all of Putin's unfulfilled promises. Der @ mo, it’s getting closer to shit (Wuhu) striving .... Are you in a hurry in the dashing nineties?
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 12 March 2018 19: 03
            +20
            Quote: Tersky
            Russian presidential candidate Pavel Grudinin visits the radio station Ekho Moskvy

            Vit, Kvachkov was the same on the "Echo", this is not an indicator. Shoigu was there too if that. hi
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 12 March 2018 19: 32
              +10
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Kvachkov was the same on the "Echo", this is not an indicator. Shoigu was there too if that.

              Igor, of course they were, but for what purpose ..., not as candidates, feel the difference ... yes
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 12 March 2018 19: 42
                +18
                Candidates were given free time at the radio station. What is not clear then?
                1. Tersky
                  Tersky 12 March 2018 22: 08
                  +5
                  Quote: sabakina
                  Candidates were given free time at the radio station.

                  On the radio station and not in the trash, laughing Our to you hi !
                2. Mestny
                  Mestny 12 March 2018 22: 11
                  +4
                  And they can be given time in the forecourt of the brothel. Why not take advantage?
                  Not every free one needs to be missed.
                  Although in the case of a comrade millionaire director of the farm, this is probably normal? Otherwise, how do you arrange a business in the Moscow Region in the 90s?
    4. taiga2018
      taiga2018 12 March 2018 18: 43
      +8
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      no one except Grudinin offers a progressive taxation scale.

      it’s such a tempting temptation for the voter, they say that the richest will pay more than anyone who is slightly less wealthy, that will pay less taxes, and the poorest will be completely exempted from taxes ... I agree, beauty! no, beautiful! but there is a little nuance and he is that the richest will always find a way to avoid taxes, and the more they want to make them pay, the more they will want to not do it ... question: how and what to replenish the budget? Where to get money for salaries of state employees? how to pay for the defense order ? Or to hell with national security, as the liberals suggest?
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 12 March 2018 18: 47
        +8
        Quote: taiga2018
        and the poorest will be completely exempted from taxes ..

        Why exaggerate - no one offers this. And the question is is the progressive scale correct or not?
        1. taiga2018
          taiga2018 12 March 2018 18: 50
          +7
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          is the progressive scale correct or not?

          right! completely, for! but you need to do it thoughtfully, and not in a fit of pre-election fervor ...
        2. taiga2018
          taiga2018 12 March 2018 18: 51
          +4
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Why exaggerate - no one offers this

          I’m not exaggerating, it slipped in the statements of the same Grudinin ...
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 12 March 2018 18: 54
            +4
            Quote: taiga2018
            it slipped in the statements of the same Grudinin ...

            It was spoken about agricultural enterprises, and about just opened ones. hi
            1. Freeman
              Freeman 12 March 2018 19: 29
              +9
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Quote: taiga2018
              it slipped in the statements of the same Grudinin ...

              It was spoken about agricultural enterprises, and about just opened ones. hi

              From the 20 Steps Program
              8. Taxes are in the interests of justice and development.
              Income tax grow on the rich, and for the poor will be canceled. The tax system will stimulate investment and innovation activities of enterprises. The value added tax strangling our industry will be eliminated. We will cancel the transport tax and the Platon system
              1. Mestny
                Mestny 12 March 2018 22: 17
                +4
                Yes. cancel!
                But at the same time we will give up new weapons - why do we need them if we need to pay the poor?
                Do you not understand that money for all this must be taken from somewhere. Selling something on the world market? Yeah, so they are waiting for us there. Will self-lock on itself? - the way to a dead end, and it will not work under any circumstances.
                Do you really think that as soon as our "suffocating industry" ceases to be such - it will immediately begin to mass-produce everything at a world level, and everyone else in the world will rush to buy it all?
                That is why such "steps" are normal people and called cynical, terry arrogant populism.
        3. Freeman
          Freeman 12 March 2018 19: 25
          +3
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: taiga2018
          and the poorest will be completely exempted from taxes ..

          Why exaggerate - nobody offers it. And the question is is the progressive scale correct or not?

          Well, why no one. Here Yavlinsky offers
          Exempt from taxes working citizens whose income is lower or less than 15% of the subsistence level.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 12 March 2018 20: 19
            +7
            Quote: Freeman
            whose income is lower or less than 15% of the subsistence level.

            Homeless or what? laughing 15% of the living, living in Moscow 15307 rubles, 15% of this amount are equal somewhere around 2000 rubles. And the minimum minimum wage in Moscow is 17561 rubles, i.e. no one official salary below 17561 p. can't do. So think that YAPLIN YAPLIN. hi
            1. Freeman
              Freeman 12 March 2018 21: 28
              +1
              Ingvar 72 Today, 20:19
              Homeless or what? laughing 15% of the living
              So think that YAPLIN YAPLIN.

              I agree, it is written really clumsilybut so on the site.
              And you need to understand like this
              - Those whose income is 15% higher than the cost of living are also exempted.
              Himself did not immediately doper. hi
              Threat. Yavlinsky’s site was made by some two hipsters from the BIT'EM UP team
      2. Alf
        Alf 12 March 2018 20: 20
        +7
        Quote: taiga2018
        the richest will always find a way to avoid taxes, and the more they want to force them to pay, the more they will want to not do it ..

        That's right, you need to free the rich from taxes in general, they are socially responsible.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 12 March 2018 20: 48
          +14
          Quote: Alf
          the rich must be exempted from taxes altogether, they are socially responsible.

          how Putin listened to you and performed everything. Friends - everything, the rest - the law!
          1. Alf
            Alf 12 March 2018 21: 28
            +2
            Quote: Silvestr
            Quote: Alf
            the rich must be exempted from taxes altogether, they are socially responsible.

            how Putin listened to you and performed everything. Friends - everything, the rest - the law!

            Yes, I'm afraid to do it.
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 12 March 2018 18: 47
      +7
      For embezzlers, the death penalty in the first place! am
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 12 March 2018 20: 49
        +7
        Quote: siberalt
        For embezzlers, the death penalty in the first place!

        and with confiscation without any reference to grandparents, uncles and aunts.
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 12 March 2018 22: 20
          0
          Well, how does someone decide that you are the embezzler yourself? They will come to confiscate, but to let them into consumption - then prove that you are for the new government.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 12 March 2018 23: 03
            +1
            Quote: Mestny
            Well, how does someone decide that you are the embezzler yourself?

            so who stuck to the treasury in the VO does not hang out. Let's take the help and the thing in the hat
        2. Petr petrov
          Petr petrov 13 March 2018 04: 12
          +2
          Confiscation of property was canceled in 2003 by Putin !!!
    6. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 12 March 2018 18: 54
      +9
      These clowns are introduced to you (he points to other participants in the debate, - note “VO”) to show, as if, real elections.

      Who else would be laughing?

      Although what an animal from nature to offend!
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 12 March 2018 19: 50
        +16
        Quote: Chertt
        The team of "Darkest" offered (I do not remember the name) Three-step scale

        Rotenbergs probably suggested. They incidentally successfully overcame this "3-step scale" the other day!The third billionaire appeared in the dynasty of Russian businessmen Rotenberg
        11 March 2018, 03: 08
        The fortune of Igor Rotenberg, the eldest son of the founder of the dynasty, amounted to $ 1 billion. Http: //www.tatar-inform.ru/news/2018/03/
        11 / 601521 /
        Owns half of the Plato system and now, such a success)))
        1. sapporo1959
          sapporo1959 12 March 2018 20: 07
          +18
          Look at that smart little son! The third billionaire has already earned for the good of the Motherland. A patriotic change is growing! Grow!
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 12 March 2018 22: 21
            +1
            That would be a bullet in the forehead, and give all the good to us! We would have walked, reigned!
            Who will share?
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 12 March 2018 20: 52
          +14
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          The fortune of Igor Rotenberg, the eldest son of the founder of the dynasty, amounted to 1 billion

          trying for the good of the country! Do not spare yourself and your pockets. Forge the iron. while it's hot. The main thing is to be closer to Putin!
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    7. SPACE
      SPACE 12 March 2018 19: 42
      +16
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      P.S. And by the way, no one except Grudinin offers a progressive taxation scale.

      Because stupid. The proportional tax scale for a growing and developing economy is the most suitable, simple, does not require a giant tax apparatus with a minimum of banking sector development. The main question is why and what they want to achieve, what goals to achieve, those who advocate the introduction of a progressive scale? Improve the life of the poor? And how much does it improve for a person with a salary of 10000 rubles? At a tax rate such as 10%? Or maybe they want to increase tax revenues to the budget? Taking a double share from the rich and business? In an economy where the shadow part reaches 30%, it is naive to assume that a business, especially developing one, will take it positively, go underground again, start splitting enterprises into small ones and look for other complex forms of tax evasion, as a result, tax fees will definitely fall and tax services will simply wallow in routine and litigation. Or maybe Grudinin wants to impose state monopolies with even higher taxes? ))) That's for sure the collective farmer, on the principle of doing it first, then I think, only we have individuals who pass laws, it’s not necessary for the benefit of people, but in order to worsen life, is that how progress is? But the same business should also have development finance, where can I get the money? In the bank under rather big interest? Well, wage funds will be cut even more, as a result, the mass of working people will go into the ranks of the poor and paying small taxes. No, to let the business work in poor conditions, well, they’ll get more income, well, let them spend their income in the country, contributing to the development of other business areas, for example, the same services, etc. As a result, you will get a backlash and tax shortfall and a budget deficit for pensions, etc. But that’s not all, the economy doesn’t have a high competitiveness, the clarity of the system, add to this the barriers in the form of the tax burden and see in surprise how investments are running out and money is running away to warmer countries, but of course the collective farmer Grudinin is financially smarter "than Nabibulin, who thought of derailing the economy. And who is asked, after this enterprise will he build and with what money and economy will he develop?
      Z.Y. The future, of course, lies with progressive taxation, but only when the country reaches a level of development such as in Germany, the risks disappear, the quality of the tax sphere improves, the business becomes the most transparent, etc. As the saying goes until the house is not built. In short, it’s too early to change taxation now, everything has its time. And before you change anything, you need to think ten times and weigh all the pros and cons. And many people hear the ringing, but don’t know where it is ...
      1. onix757
        onix757 12 March 2018 19: 47
        +15
        The proportional tax scale for a growing and developing economy is the most suitable, simple, does not require a giant tax apparatus with a minimum of banking sector development.

        Where is it growing? It seems like the number of officials has grown 4 times in comparison with the Union, and the economy is tending to the abscissa axis smile
      2. onix757
        onix757 12 March 2018 19: 52
        +16
        And is it much better for a person with a salary of 10000 rubles?

        How is 10? Can there be such small wages in the richest country in the world after 18 years of rapid development?
        1. SPACE
          SPACE 12 March 2018 20: 06
          +10
          Don’t even bother, you still don’t understand and don’t want anything. Your incomprehensible comments about what are meaningless and uninteresting. All rest.
        2. sapporo1959
          sapporo1959 12 March 2018 20: 17
          +7
          Well, apparently not all the rapid development has affected yet? The country is large and so far the decree will come from Moscow ...
        3. Alf
          Alf 12 March 2018 20: 22
          +5
          Quote: onix757
          low wages

          They just don't want to work.
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 12 March 2018 22: 45
            +4
            I’ll tell you a secret - among them there really are quite a few who do not want to work.
            But all this is certainly not true. Comrade Communists, fighters for our bright future, are told to us that all people are equal and worthy to eat equally well.
            The main thing is to believe.
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    8. Secretparadox
      Secretparadox 12 March 2018 22: 01
      +8
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      And who is against the death penalty - pedophile maniacs? belay
      P.S. And by the way, no one except Grudinin offers a progressive taxation scale.

      How annoying thinkers are one-sided. But it’s nothing that so many “maniacs” and “pedophiles” have not been deservedly convicted, and at the suggestion of Grudinin, if new information appears and the person is later acquitted, they will have to release the corpse. Also, according to a study by many experts, crime is influenced by such concepts as poverty, social. inequality and mental deviations of a specific criminal and the death penalty are not able to prevent these phenomena. If a person is mentally ill, no threat of punishment is a hindrance, only a psychologist can help here. In addition, it seems stupid to choose precisely maniacs and pedaphiles, and not for example murderers or corrupt officials, I am deeply convinced that a person’s life, and if we are talking about corrupt people, the life of millions of people is much more important than a spoiled children's psyche. Such statements are aimed at the close electorate, which will immediately support, saying, "Well, do you feel sorry for maniacs and pedaphiles?" I agree that a progressive tax must be introduced, but there is a huge problem and Grudinin does not offer ways to solve it. With a progressive tax, there is a huge risk of a significant increase in the shadow sector, especially in Russia, in fact, this was one of the reasons for introducing a single tax, if I am not mistaken, in 2002.
    9. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 12 March 2018 22: 29
      +3
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      And who is against the death penalty - pedophile maniacs? belay
      P.S. And by the way, no one except Grudinin offers a progressive taxation scale.

      Gentlemen, comrades, you are adults, and you believe in fairy tales. All candidates for the presidency of Ukraine have promised something substantial. None of them, being elected, fulfilled even a little bit of what was promised. All campaign promises are not worth a penny. Once again I remind you - do not believe the words, but believe in deeds.
      P.S. The darkest, if my memory serves me, never promised anything. And if he promised, then he did.
      P.P.S. I am not a citizen of Russia. I can be mistaken in something.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 12 March 2018 22: 48
        +2
        This is really embarrassing. Adult people, if they are in their right mind, will not believe this.
        However, there they sing so violently in chorus.
        Just think about it. For money? Not very smart?
        I think both this and that. at the same time.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 12 March 2018 23: 11
          +2
          Sorry, but your post is not entirely clear to me.
          Quote: Mestny
          This is really confusing
          - What bothers you? Promises?
          Quote: Mestny
          However, there they sing so violently in chorus.

          Who is singing? What are they singing about?
          As far as I know, candidates have different songs. Well, there are some small coincidences.
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    11. Petr petrov
      Petr petrov 13 March 2018 04: 03
      +2
      House of Putin's daughter in France, Biarritz !!!!!
      https://tvrain.ru/articles/zamestitel_mera_frants
      uzskogo_biarritsa_podtverdil_pokupku_domov_semej_
      putina-437241 /
      https://youtu.be/EFEwN6gFMDw
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 13 March 2018 10: 38
        +2
        Quote: Petr petrov
        House of Putin's daughter in France, Biarritz !!!!!
        https://tvrain.ru/articles/zamestitel_mera_frants
        uzskogo_biarritsa_podtverdil_pokupku_domov_semej_
        putina-437241 /
        https://youtu.be/EFEwN6gFMDw

        Well, let's say she has a house there. AND? What is this talking about? That the Darkest, on this basis, should not be president?
        Here in my opinion, Prime Minister Azarov was the best of all the premieres in the open-air, so you know what claims were presented to him? He does not speak Ukrainian !!! As a result, today we have the prime minister of one that can be described in one word - squalor. In the words of one of the moronic presidents of the non-stop - may be, well, be sure.
    12. perm23
      perm23 13 March 2018 05: 57
      +1
      to offer does not mean to do. Lenya Doves from an MMM advertisement also talked a lot
  2. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 12 March 2018 18: 18
    +13
    Black-line provocative election article. Well, now it starts ...
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 12 March 2018 18: 21
      +23
      Ksenia, still well done. The lack of brains and common sense, as an election platform, is creative
      1. Alex-a832
        Alex-a832 12 March 2018 18: 26
        +8
        Quote: Chertt
        Ksenia, still well done. The lack of brains and common sense, as an election platform, is creative

        Add here: no skin, no faces ... well, to complete the landscape ... lol
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 12 March 2018 18: 29
          +4
          Quote: Alex-a832
          Add here: no skin, no faces.

          The taste and color, as they say .. wink . But the fact that inadequate is a fact
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 12 March 2018 18: 42
          +2
          Quote: Alex-a832
          Add here: no skin, no faces.

          To others it takes! good
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 12 March 2018 20: 56
            +3
            I have been living in this world for more than half a century and always thought that they take this “i”, this “-” and this “o”. But no, it turns out there is still charisma. lol
      2. taiga2018
        taiga2018 12 March 2018 18: 33
        +5
        Quote: Chertt
        Ksenia, still well done.

        really well done, which is only thanks to wealthy parents, and pretends that everything was achieved only by herself, and then, this participation in the elections is also good for the growth of her well-being, if earlier she had the same amount for corporate events, then Now for the former presidential candidate will have to pay more ...
        1. KCA
          KCA 12 March 2018 18: 59
          +1
          And how much for the continuation of the banquet ...
      3. Baloo
        Baloo 12 March 2018 19: 51
        +5
        Quote: Chertt
        Ksenia, still well done. The lack of brains and common sense, as an election platform, is creative

        I propose to nominate her for the presidency of Ukraine, or at least to the mayors of Lviv. Who agrees? wink
        1. sapporo1959
          sapporo1959 12 March 2018 20: 23
          +3
          She has not yet reached Lviv, and is there a candidate in Russia yet? Yes, and maybe even that she and the rights about the voters once they put forward it to them as a warm-up?
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 12 March 2018 20: 54
          +1
          Quote: Balu
          or at least the mayors of Lviv. Who agrees?

          she swung at Peter. But everything can be. Do not underestimate the lady. The last six years, everything is possible, it is necessary to be in time.
        3. Svarog51
          Svarog51 12 March 2018 21: 02
          +1
          Baloo, you teacher! They already have Klitschko in Kiev. Now, in Lviv, only feminine, do you suggest? The search will be. wink
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 13 March 2018 05: 46
            +1
            Quote: Svarog51
            Baloo, you're a teacher!

            No, I am not a teacher. And what, Sobchak claims to be a specialist in waste recycling. I myself saw on the first channel how she lit people at a dump near Moscow and told everyone how to properly recycle garbage. Sobchak’s nomination as mayor of Lviv would be like a humanitarian action to fraternal unreasonable people. Ksyusha - to the mayors of Lviv, cheers!
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 13 March 2018 05: 54
              +2
              Sobchak’s nomination as mayor of Lviv would be like a humanitarian action to fraternal unreasonable people.

              You can’t argue with that. request Well, then, me too - "FOR". good
              No, I am not a teacher.

              He himself said - I teach Mowgli. repeat
              1. Baloo
                Baloo 13 March 2018 06: 02
                +2
                Quote: Svarog51
                No, I am not a teacher.
                He himself said - I teach Mowgli

                Rather, I am trying to bring up in our talented youth an honest, conscientious attitude to our beloved most humane cause, and respect for ourselves and for people. They studied at the institute, after receiving a diploma, they themselves are obliged to study every day, and remember that people seek help. The title obliges through I can not and do not want to do my job. Something like that.
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 13 March 2018 06: 48
                  +1
                  The title obliges through I can not and do not want to do my job. Something like that.

                  And I hoped that way too.
                  good
                  1. Baloo
                    Baloo 13 March 2018 11: 39
                    +1
                    Quote: Svarog51
                    The title obliges through I can not and do not want to do my job. Something like that.

                    And I hoped that way too.
                    good

                    No, this is not our method. So you can discourage perfection. But those who are older have to remind themselves that they chose their craft, so it should be, and not pretend to be.
  3. Muvka
    Muvka 12 March 2018 18: 19
    +3
    Like Ksyushad ...
    1. reservist
      reservist 12 March 2018 18: 35
      +7
      Quote: Muvka
      Like Ksyushad ...

      1. japs
        japs 12 March 2018 20: 55
        +1
        There will be few drops, a bucket ...
      2. Svarog51
        Svarog51 12 March 2018 21: 05
        +1
        Her immunity, here and a bucket of nicotine will not help. wink
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 12 March 2018 20: 34
      +1
      Quote: Muvka
      Like Ksyushad ...

      And she leads corporate parties for the rich and is versed in recycling.
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    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 12 March 2018 18: 32
      +7
      and our rich Pinocchio, including Putin, will never do this
      1. Oden280
        Oden280 12 March 2018 18: 41
        +2
        He proposed this back in 2002, but our Duma and the Federation Council were rearing.
        1. sapporo1959
          sapporo1959 12 March 2018 20: 28
          +9
          And then the boyars did not give the dog to Putin? I see absolutely the poor fellow twisted from all sides .., and so he wow and ah ..
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 12 March 2018 22: 55
            +1
            The vertical of power as a whole, as a chain of characters identical as nested dolls, exists only to the heads of juvenile debits ... in, and in the speeches of the Communists, fighters against the regime.
            The rest understands that people are different, including in the notorious vertical.
            Moscow is far, and far from the fact that everything is done as they say about power in Western revolutionary manuals.
            The same goes for any country. Even the USA.
            But for the authors of these mentioned manuals, this is not the main thing. The main thing for them is to smear all power in general in stupid heads as much as possible, of course, headed by Putin.
            Therefore, the myth of a single power vertical by type of clockwork is so persistently introduced.
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 12 March 2018 20: 56
          +6
          Quote: Oden280
          He proposed this back in 2002, but our Duma and the Federation Council were rearing.

          Do you want to say that the structures you named are counter? So is there a sailor Zheleznyak?
          1. Oden280
            Oden280 13 March 2018 10: 32
            +1
            If you take into account the number of lobbyists of various interests, then the undoubted contra. Unfortunately, the sailor Zheleznyak is not there. And in general, these are two very muddy structures that, using their complete integrity, do what they want. And they have nothing to do with the deputies from the people.
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      3. Freeman
        Freeman 12 March 2018 19: 58
        +1
        Quote: Gardamir
        and our rich Pinocchio, including Putin, will never do this

        Since 2015, we have practically boycotted PACE
        The Russian delegation to PACE in April 2014 was deprived of its main powers due to events in Ukraine and the reunification of Crimea with the Russian Federation. In 2015, PACE twice considered the issue of restoring the rights of the Russian delegation, but then the sanctions remained in effect: Russia was deprived of the opportunity to vote in PACE until the end of the year, and was also suspended from participating in the governing bodies of the assembly and its election observation missions in space Council of Europe. In response, the Russian delegation stated that it refuses to work in PACE on such conditions, and in 2016-2017 she did not send an application for confirmation of her powers due to the Russophobian sentiments that remained in Strasbourg.

        At the end of June 2017, it became known that Russia was suspending the payment of its contribution to the Council of Europe due to the non-participation of the Russian delegation in the work of PACE. At the same time, Moscow proposes to introduce into the assembly regulations that no one has the right to deprive any national delegations of authority.

        On January 11, the head of the State Duma’s committee on international affairs, Leonid Slutsky, said that Russia would not send an application to confirm the credentials of the Russian delegation to PACE in 2018 and would not go “to the January session, either in full or in truncated format”.
    2. Lavrenti Pavlovich
      Lavrenti Pavlovich 12 March 2018 18: 36
      +17
      Quote: Oden280
      This strawberry clown no longer knows how to attract attention to himself. If the moratorium on the death penalty is lifted, Russia will be expelled from the Council of Europe and PACE, and our rich Pinocchio, including Grudinin, will never do this anyway and lose all their money and property in the West.

      PI .. oh, that is, chatting - do not toss the bags. Personally, I am for leaving the Council of Europe, and even more so for Pase. And the death penalty is very necessary not only for pedophiles, but for traitors, traitors, murderers, corrupt officials and thieves of state property. Such as Navalny, Kasparov, Svanidze, Gozman .. on Red Square to put to death - as many people would come to see live and be happy.
      1. japs
        japs 12 March 2018 20: 59
        +2
        If you call on the whole five-column brethren to the scaffold, then I advise you to be more careful with the words that they could attract for the anti-Semitism ... so to speak, the genocide of the Jewish people.
    3. KCA
      KCA 12 March 2018 19: 01
      +2
      In fact, Russia is going to leave both the Council of Europe and PACE, there is nothing to graze there for its money and keep silent in a rag, and GAZPROM will speak kindly to dissatisfied bureaucrats and explain everything
    4. Alf
      Alf 12 March 2018 20: 24
      +3
      Quote: Oden280
      If the moratorium on the death penalty is lifted, Russia will be expelled from the Council of Europe and PACE,

      So what ? Will the world turn upside down? Or will Russia disappear? All the same, we are nobody there and there is no way to call us, what will we lose?
      1. japs
        japs 12 March 2018 21: 13
        +2
        Traveling ...
      2. Oden280
        Oden280 13 March 2018 10: 33
        0
        This you tell our deputies.
  5. Dezinto
    Dezinto 12 March 2018 18: 26
    +2
    Is she not a clown herself?
    1. reservist
      reservist 12 March 2018 18: 47
      +2
      do not offend clowns ...
  6. filatik
    filatik 12 March 2018 18: 28
    +4
    The brain does not keep up with the tongue of Xenia. Have you ever thought that people can accept her information as a personal insult?
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 12 March 2018 18: 33
      +1
      We were deprived of the right to vote. We have elections, as it were. I came to say the opposite


      This animal was admitted as a candidate before the election - and this animal speaks of such nonsense.

      Therefore vryatli "thoughtfulness" is about Ksenia
      1. Flatter
        Flatter 12 March 2018 18: 48
        +3
        We were deprived of the right to vote. We have elections, as it were. I came to say the opposite

        Not at all Ksyuhovets, but in fact, it is.
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 12 March 2018 21: 15
          0
          Ivan, welcome hi
          I came to say the opposite

          Not at all Ksyuhovets

          Well it’s good that I figured it out. But other forum participants will have questions. You’ll already learn how to insert quotes, otherwise your comment will be treated ambiguously. repeat
          I hope - no offense? Joke.
      2. seal78
        seal78 12 March 2018 18: 55
        0
        On the contrary, how is it? Abyrvalg? :)
  7. cedar
    cedar 12 March 2018 18: 32
    +2
    It’s interesting that all these unselected ones each lead their own swamp column or merge in ecstasy into one ..?
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 12 March 2018 18: 38
      +7
      The main column will be from the Communist Party.

      After all, the Patriotic Maidan is cool, fashionable, youth. For all the good and against all the bad.

      (people say they have every right to defend their candidates on the streets wassat )

      And of course it’s funny to listen to the Maidan from the one who gave the power himself. Well, or did not take it. Here's how to look.

      And it’s funny to hear about the oligarchs from whose party Yukos bought in due time

      PS America approved the sternum candidacy. So he has the right and resource on the Maidan.

    2. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO 12 March 2018 19: 01
      +9
      Well, yours will definitely go in one column, along with the rest of the liberals ... laughing ..like that
  8. maxim1987
    maxim1987 12 March 2018 18: 33
    +2
    Personally, I will vote for V.V. Zhirinovsky hi
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 12 March 2018 18: 35
      +4
      well, it’s better than a person who is looking for all sorts of ways to circumvent the law and discusses this under cameras at a meeting of his "comrades"

      drinks
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 12 March 2018 18: 45
        +4
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        well, it's better

        Zhirik is better ??? !!! belay
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 12 March 2018 18: 46
          +5
          Well, for Zhirik, Washington did not drown the post - as a fact
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 12 March 2018 18: 48
            +10
            For Grudinin drowned? belay
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 12 March 2018 18: 49
              +14
              Ingvar, what are you doing. Of course. Article by David Filipov. At the very beginning of his nomination, Omerika made it clear that he was her main hope.

              Well, I’m burning away with him not only because of a rally of 500 people in Moscow, and not because he has squeezed out 40% of the national economy, and not because he sells land - such traders are half a thought

              I was initially bothered by the way our enemies were painted in the newspaper for him.

              Well, then it went — this is Zyuganov’s statement about the Maidan, pearl sternine with scores, Zyuganov’s words that there are no scores, and so on and so forth.

              This is really the Ingvar clinic. He is under the cap - and that cap is far from FSB

              In general, I think that in the country there are a sufficient number of sensible business people who have built a large business and invested in social policy on their territory. And the wedge light did not converge on this character.


              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 12 March 2018 18: 52
                +6
                Quote: s-t Petrov
                Article by David Filipov

                Be a friend, drop the link.
                P.S. And at the same time remember how we all cheered for Trump here. wink
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 12 March 2018 18: 54
                  +2
                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/this-
                  russian-presidential-contender-has-zero-chance-ag
                  ainst-putin-but-a-man-can-dream / 2018/01/05 / defcee
                  7a-f0d1-11e7-95e3-eff284e71c8d_story.html?utm_ter
                  m = .b2a1da85713f

                  Xs will open no. But in the search engine hammer David Philipov Washingtonpost Grudinin
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 12 March 2018 19: 00
                    +3
                    Quote: s-t Petrov
                    David Filipov Washington Post Grudinin

                    On January 7 of this year, the Washington Post published an article by David Filipov on the Communist Party candidate Grudinin. As one would expect, all progressive mankind (a joke, if anything) exhausted in the fight against Putin, suddenly saw among the black clouds of failure in this field a bright ray of hope - the red director of Sovkhoz ... CJSC Pasha Grudinin.
                    Summary (as I see it):
                    I didn’t find the translation of the article on vskidka, only retellings yes visions. wink Your link did not open. request
                    1. St Petrov
                      St Petrov 12 March 2018 19: 09
                      +9
                      You will find it. I know.

                      Yes, and too many of these little things come up with time. I say - if he was silent - and would sit with a clever air and would raise his eyebrows - there would be more sense. But when he opens his mouth - he substitutes everyone who drowns for him here on the forum.

                      I do not doubt your adequacy. So he set you up.

                      And you have to post in topics such as - have you changed your mind about voting for the sternum and in others. Look already for information which tells why he has an account, what children he collected and so on.

                      Because I understand that you believed by looking at the garden and at the advertisement, where he stands in a white jacket and generally looks like an elf who will defeat the darkness. But Ingvar is a swamp.

                      In the video (for recording), he discusses options for circumventing Russian legislation (this is what the one who marks in the President of the Russian Federation argues), sitting at the head of the table among smart husbands.

                      And Zyuganov from the podium screams that voters have the right to uphold their candidates on the streets. In general, it is Kryndets.

                      1. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 12 March 2018 20: 34
                        +4
                        Quote: s-t Petrov
                        You will find it. I know.

                        Found using Dym71. Nothing special, an analytical article is not a great mind. request Such analogues were full in our press on the eve of the US election. I remember how “rooting” for Trump, but this does not mean that Trump is ours. Judge an ungrateful case under one article, and Putin is also admired by the West, more often.
                        Quote: s-t Petrov
                        I do not doubt your adequacy.

                        Thanks, Nov will disappoint you - and sometimes it carries me! wink
                        P.S. You quit smoking, or are you making up excuses for yourself? bully
                      2. St Petrov
                        St Petrov 12 March 2018 21: 41
                        +1
                        Thanks, Nov will disappoint you - and sometimes it carries me! wink
                        P.S. You quit smoking, or are you making up excuses for yourself?


                        Well, how many people sometimes know me laughing but as a whole I have been keeping my words from the moment of registration and it smiles at me that I still have not been disappointed in my thoughts about our power.

                        We’ve built a swimming pool, 150 rubles a single room (like a coffee mug)
                        The officers’s house was repaired; they were repaired the last time — I don’t know when. Spread the sidewalks. The work would have thrown on the ground, in general, a fairy tale would have begun. Even around the lake they made some kind of sanity site, but animal people again dirtied and ruined everything, a day after we went to the general cleaning of the lakeside territory.
                        Here in the fall, a forest was planted on the site of a bark beetle eaten. They brought seedlings, planted the whole village.
                        In general, I feel the state. And looking at the bridge and other large projects - the feeling only strengthens.
                        They made the army almost - just keep a series - the military-industrial complex was breathing. Even gas turbine engines are now doing at home. She's such a gas station. The reactor was launched on fast neutrons, I was happy - and then what else did the Supreme Commander put up on the message to his Tanu.

                        And there are friends in Rosatom - the office is certainly serious. Developments in this area are advanced. The one who tells me about the kitchen is going on - his eyes are burning. Young specialist, engineer.

                        In general, Vladimir drags. There is nothing to change it. One time left. Let him finish what he started.

                        As for smoking, one doesn’t even have to invent one, everything was already invented 17 years ago. only rearranging places.

                        And the grandmother at work with the White Sea runs up. She’s probably already over a hundred and she smokes two of my life already wassat And it seems to me she will still be able to ushatat if she mobilizes her Zen

                        In general, you see what excuse there is wassat

                        But already I feel like sucking cigarettes life yes.

                    2. Dym71
                      Dym71 12 March 2018 19: 56
                      +1
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      I did not find a translation of the article on a vskidka

                      Translation here:
                      https://inosmi.ru/social/20180108/241139578.html
                    3. Freeman
                      Freeman 12 March 2018 20: 23
                      +3
                      Ingvar 72 Today, 19:00
                      the link did not open.

                      The link is working, after copying to the address bar, you need to remove 4 spaces between characters.
                      And I didn’t understand why St Petrov decided that the article is "progrudininsky"?
                      Rather, it’s "drowned"
                      Therefore, when Grudinin appeared, sounding as if he really wants to replace Putin, the questions were: how honest is he? And how many runways will the Kremlin allow him?

                      Russian analysts suggest that Grudinin’s candidacy is part of a Kremlin project to increase voter turnout, offering many loyalist alternatives to Putin (including Zhirinovsky for nationalists and the television personality Ksenia Sobchak for Westernizing liberals).)

                      “The Communist Party is a pro-government party integrated into the State political system, so no one should consider its election decision an unexpected trick for the authorities,” commented political analyst Evgeni Minchenko on Facebook.

                      In this system, “The Communist nominee gets his 15 percent plus or minus,” wrote Peppers. “But this scenario is played out only if the candidate plays according to system rules.”
                2. Tersky
                  Tersky 12 March 2018 19: 20
                  +7
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Be a friend, drop the link.

                  laughing Well you people Igor request , such things need to be tracked, catch laughing ,
                  Washington Post: Grudinin's only hope for the United States to overthrow the "hated Putin regime" Well, a little local press to catch up Grudinin latrine
                  1. onix757
                    onix757 12 March 2018 19: 42
                    +5
                    Well you people Igor request, such things must be monitored, catch

                    Now they’ll print an article, just pay the money. As for the content, this is a statement of fact and no more.
                    What is there a cycle, removed the violator of the law Grudinin?
                    1. Tersky
                      Tersky 12 March 2018 19: 45
                      +8
                      Quote: onix757
                      As for the content, this is a statement of fact and no more.

                      On a clearer please, the fact of what? But so be it clear that it is just not “labeled”, but the rest is one on one with one well-known “combine” Oh, and the land of Russia is rich in “agricultural producers”
                      Quote: onix757
                      What is there a cycle, removed the violator of the law Grudinin?
                      The fact that he slipped into the elections themselves does not mean that after them he will not be in that quality only in a frying pan. I have no doubt that you, together with one overseas office, prepared him the role of a martyr. And also, take care of yourself, because trolling on the site is punishable. Available explained? Not.. ?
                      1. onix757
                        onix757 12 March 2018 20: 01
                        +3
                        Well still cry and complain about the site administration to me laughing
                      2. onix757
                        onix757 12 March 2018 20: 08
                        +2
                        On a clearer please, the fact of what? The fact that he is just not laying "labeled"?

                        The fact of compiling real competition.
                    2. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 12 March 2018 21: 24
                      +4
                      Well still cry and complain about the site administration to me

                      Funnier I have not yet met. Victor Tersky - moderator. Does he need to run to the administrator? laughing
                3. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk 12 March 2018 22: 59
                  0
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Quote: s-t Petrov
                  Article by David Filipov

                  Be a friend, drop the link.
                  P.S. And at the same time remember how we all cheered for Trump here. wink

                  I don’t like it when they speak for me.
                  Those who "supported" the trump - and when did it happen that the attitude of the USA towards Russia changed with the change of the president in the USA?
              2. onix757
                onix757 12 March 2018 19: 43
                +7
                Quote: s-t Petrov
                Well, I’m burning off with him not only because of a rally of 500 people in Moscow

                And mind you, volunteered to come.
                1. Tersky
                  Tersky 12 March 2018 20: 21
                  +5
                  Quote: onix757
                  Well still cry and complain about the site administration to me

                  laughing Found a child, and my powers are quite enough for me.
                  1. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 12 March 2018 21: 27
                    +3
                    What for? My powers are enough for me.

                    Victor, hi A little hurried and a little higher gave the same thing.
                    1. Tersky
                      Tersky 12 March 2018 21: 55
                      +3
                      Quote: Svarog51
                      Victor, hi

                      Our to you hi ! Yes, it’s not who it’s, just the “comrade” onyx can see the VO site with another one. laughing
                      1. Svarog51
                        Svarog51 13 March 2018 05: 35
                        +1
                        just "comrade" onyx can see the site in with another beguiled.

                        It was necessary to organize a separate branch for these political campaigners for the election campaign, to call it the "Political Arena" - and all of them there. Just do not forget to charge them a separate fee for the development of the site - at least some benefit will be. lol
                        Z.Y. It is a pity that the idea came late. repeat
                2. ML-334
                  ML-334 12 March 2018 20: 41
                  +3
                  Ksyusha chewed here who voluntarily came. And weakly to the director, wherever in the Trans-Urals the state farm is to raise the land or is it not the same or is the MKAD too far?
                3. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 12 March 2018 21: 59
                  +1
                  And mind you, volunteered to come.


                  when we did a disco in the woods in 2002 in the wilderness in the suburbs, more people came and came to us. and the sound was worse than on stage wassat we were without a king in our heads and life was perceived as a waste - none of us had even been in the army - we were young and we had no headquarters

                  I don’t know who’s doing what he’s doing at headquarters, but they’ll just go on a budget there for the candidate’s Internet support laughing

                  These "voluntary arrivals" of course surprised me. You have no desire. If there was a desire, 5 times more people would come. But in cities with millionaires, it is not a problem to assemble a rally with a permission of several thousand. And with a much less modest budget.

                  Here is such an organizational talent for your party.
                  1. Tersky
                    Tersky 12 March 2018 22: 17
                    +4
                    Quote: s-t Petrov
                    Here is such an organizational talent for your party.

                    laughing And talent, as they say, will not be drunk
                4. sapporo1959
                  sapporo1959 13 March 2018 00: 26
                  +2
                  That's for sure! And not five thousand, and not free buses, and not days off for work ...
  9. mavrus
    mavrus 12 March 2018 18: 34
    +1
    Quote: Chertt
    Ksenia, still well done. The lack of brains and common sense, as an election platform, is creative
    Yeah, call the electorate "genetic garbage," and then call those who agree to vote for it ... This is too much for our liberals. But on the plus side, we’ll finally find out what percentage of this “genetic garbage” is among our fellow citizens.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 12 March 2018 18: 36
      +1
      at the level of 2%. and this is the norm. If there weren’t these 2%, it would be suspicious
  10. Monos
    Monos 12 March 2018 18: 37
    +8
    If I were a presidential candidate, I would go to the polls with this slogan:
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 12 March 2018 18: 40
      +3
      a win-win option by the way wassat
      1. Monos
        Monos 12 March 2018 18: 44
        +3
        Quote: c-Petrov
        a win-win option by the way wassat

        Imagine, but there would be critics and opponents. laughing
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 12 March 2018 21: 31
          +1
          Victor, my respect hi
          If I were a presidential candidate, I would go to the polls

          What did you think so late?
          Imagine, but there would be critics and opponents.

          First time, or what? Would create a headquarters and support group. And there you look .... repeat
          1. Monos
            Monos 12 March 2018 22: 05
            +2
            Glad to welcome, Sergey! hi
            Quote: Svarog51
            What did you think so late?

            No, not my level ... The maximum that I can be trusted with is to choose the right slogans. laughing
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 13 March 2018 05: 46
              +1
              The maximum that I can be trusted with is to choose the right slogans.

              "Well, that way I can! You play Murka!" (c) “The meeting place cannot be changed” wink
              And on the site this position is occupied, MIHAN will not tolerate competitors. request
              1. Monos
                Monos 13 March 2018 09: 20
                +2
                Quote: Svarog51
                And on the site this position is occupied, MIHAN will not tolerate competitors.

                laughing Let it reign. This is troublesome and all the bumps on you ...
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 13 March 2018 09: 38
                  +1
                  This is troublesome and all the bumps on you ...
                  good
                  Let it reign
                  I agree - this is his position, we will not interfere. laughing
  11. Vlad Petrov
    Vlad Petrov 12 March 2018 18: 43
    +5
    It’s not clear why everyone is running around with Grudinin and Sobchak, are they not suitable for Titov’s soles? For example, he has a good education, knowledge of languages, leadership experience in large companies, modern thinking, work in Europe. Titov’s prepared by the Stolypin Club real program How to create 5 million jobs in 10 years, make a mortgage at 5% per annum, support for private initiative, entrepreneurship.
    1. taiga2018
      taiga2018 12 March 2018 18: 59
      +3
      Quote: Vlad Petrov
      It’s not clear why everyone is running around with Grudinin and Sobchak, are they not suitable for Titov’s soles?

      he’s very intelligent, and voters don’t like it (I think so), because he chose as his main goal the exemption from criminal prosecution of stealing businessmen ... he should be simpler and people will reach for him ... and the economic program he’s really not bad, but the main thing is that he has a clear one, and most importantly, he has it, unlike most other candidates ...
  12. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 12 March 2018 18: 44
    +2
    Pavel Grudinin visited the radio station "Echo of Moscow"

    Will normal people go there? request
    Ksyushad is generally secular. There’s nothing more to say about this creature ...
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 12 March 2018 18: 56
      +2
      Will normal people go there?


      different go there. And ours and not ours. What is the difference through which ether to influence the ears of the audience.

      Especially on Echo Matzah, she is perfect
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 13 March 2018 16: 07
        0
        There, the audience corresponding to this radio is usually, if you convey the opinion to normal people there is nothing to do.
  13. Alexander War
    Alexander War 12 March 2018 18: 44
    +1
    I. Strelkov and S. Udaltsov Debate
  14. jovanni
    jovanni 12 March 2018 18: 45
    +3
    And who is against the death penalty - pedophile maniacs? belay

    Well yes they are. And the Echo of Moscow
  15. Alexander War
    Alexander War 12 March 2018 18: 46
    +3
    Who is trying to destroy Grudinin? / V. Boglaev /
  16. Yak28
    Yak28 12 March 2018 18: 49
    +2
    Still, to introduce the confiscation of property, so that the bribe takers and embezzlers after serving in comfortable cells would not return to millions, but to the bare backside
  17. Dezinto
    Dezinto 12 March 2018 18: 50
    +5
    When I am going to read the comments on the topic of politics .... or accidentally turned on the "debate" on TV ....... laughing

    1. Freeman
      Freeman 12 March 2018 21: 00
      +3
      Quote: DEZINTO
      When I am going to read the comments on the topic of politics .... or accidentally turned on the "debate" on TV ....... laughing


      stop You are putting yourself in serious danger.
      It Chemical insulating suit KIH-5M Designed to protect against the effects of liquid and gaseous chlorine, ammonia and other aggressive chemicals.
      From exposure to radiation, and the above you are its most powerful sources, he will not save.
      Must be applied Radiation-protective clothing set for firefighters "RZK"

      Designed for individual comprehensive protection of the person during fire fighting and emergency rescue operations in the area of ​​combined beta-gamma irradiation.
      laughing
      1. Dezinto
        Dezinto 12 March 2018 21: 03
        +3
        Thank you ... hi
        Have to change clothes ..... laughing
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 12 March 2018 23: 07
          0
          Do not.
          Against the well-known brown substance on the fan - that’s it.
          Well, if after 3 MV, as a result of Zhirinovsky’s coming to power, it will become radioactive, then you can change clothes.
  18. seal78
    seal78 12 March 2018 18: 53
    +4
    Sobchak calls opponents clowns

    Well, here she is right. True, she is also the same clown. There they have a clown battle)
    1. Lynx33
      Lynx33 13 March 2018 07: 43
      0
      Not a battle, but a circus performance laughing
  19. Wolka
    Wolka 12 March 2018 18: 53
    0
    to cranks. however, they seem to work out the money honestly ...
  20. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 12 March 2018 19: 19
    +3
    I can, according to Ksyushadi and a sucker, but I will never allow myself to drunkenly arrange obscenity on the threshold of ANY Temple
  21. APASUS
    APASUS 12 March 2018 19: 35
    +5
    Honestly, should Putin be upset? There are so many clowns that lose them, I do not know what he needs to do.
    At the expense of Grudinin and Sobchak - an attempt to score points on populism, they are aware that they are not in trend! It is strange that they have not yet offered to give all Russians a natural rent, but I think it will come to that
  22. Strips
    Strips 12 March 2018 19: 41
    +2
    This is not the 2018 election, but the 2018 circus.
    Those who will never assume the presidency make statements and proposals that will never be implemented if Putin suddenly does not want to.

    What videos and articles - who is trying to destroy Grudinin, who is trying to destroy Sobchak, who is trying to destroy the next clown, whom Putin gave permission to participate.

    It’s as if someone is really choosing. The maximum that is being done in these supposedly elections is the entertainment of the top authorities, who laughs at the fact that the people are arguing, protecting their candidates, who are set up only for the illusion of democracy at the next choice of Putin.

    All these clowns were admitted before the election, so that against their background Putin would look good for all the problems that he had created and what he had turned the country into.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 12 March 2018 23: 09
      -1
      They make these statements in that case. if they become Presidents. Instead of Putin.
      And as all fighters for truth know, we have an ideal vertical of power. So she rushes to immediately execute their decrees.
      1. Lynx33
        Lynx33 13 March 2018 07: 46
        0
        Even if one of these clowns suddenly wins, he will not do anything, because all their statements of pure water are impossible populism.
  23. Million
    Million 12 March 2018 20: 06
    +2
    Putin's goddaughter is right in this case
  24. Severok
    Severok 12 March 2018 20: 11
    0
    From the moment the daughter of the dog went to the presidency of the Russian Federation, since then she has been acting like a bitch: barking at the people of Russia, sucking at someone whom she considers to be the master and bobbing her tail before the strong.
  25. Radikal
    Radikal 12 March 2018 20: 17
    +4
    Quote: Tersky
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Yes, if you recall all of Putin’s promises!

    Igor, this one
    Russian presidential candidate Pavel Grudinin visits the radio station Ekho Moskvy
    enough to overwhelm all of Putin's unfulfilled promises. Der @ mo, it’s getting closer to shit (Wuhu) striving .... Are you in a hurry in the dashing nineties?

    What is it that many "scare" the dashing nineties ?! People who have now grown in power during these years (and by the way, they felt great at that time), but in the two thousandth they rose to their full height! And most importantly - almost all those who “steered” in the 90s (excluding those who “dropped out” in a natural and not very good way) have not disappeared, and still, as they say, “in chocolate” in every way! So for them, the 90s flowed smoothly into the 2000s! sad
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 12 March 2018 21: 10
      +6
      Quote: Radikal
      What is it that many "scare" the dashing nineties ?!

      But I don’t scare anyone, I survived the transitional sixties, the stagnant eighties, the dashing nineties + Chechen two thousandths, and believe me a better bad world than all that you have to face.
      Quote: Radikal
      So for them, the 90s smoothly flowed into the 2000s!

      For Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, Dudaev, Basaev? The same robust untwisted, is not it?
      1. Alf
        Alf 12 March 2018 21: 41
        +2
        Quote: Tersky
        For Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky,

        Not by rank taken.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 12 March 2018 22: 00
          +5
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: Tersky
          For Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky,

          Not by rank taken.

          Well? And the conclusion?
          1. Alf
            Alf 12 March 2018 22: 28
            +2
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Quote: Alf
            Quote: Tersky
            For Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky,

            Not by rank taken.

            Well? And the conclusion?

            Hodor wanted to "reign and rule everything."
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 12 March 2018 22: 40
              +4
              Quote: Alf
              Hodor wanted to "reign and rule everything."

              Now share the wet dreams of Grudinin covered with populist slogans. One to one, with the only difference being that the first dough was more so the greed of the fraer killed ...
            2. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 12 March 2018 22: 41
              +5
              Quote: Alf
              Hodor wanted to "reign and rule everything"

              This is not a conclusion. This is a tautology.
              And the conclusion?
              Quote: Alf
              Quote: Tersky
              For Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky,

              Not by rank taken.

              Well, do not languish wink
        2. Tersky
          Tersky 12 March 2018 22: 23
          +5
          Quote: Alf
          Not by rank taken.

          And what is the rank in what matters? Everyone deserves it, right? Or forgot to add to the list of Grudinin? Did the state farm give him Lenin in 17 with all the lands?
  26. unignm
    unignm 12 March 2018 20: 23
    0
    Grudinin, horse, horse, Grudinin. others do not or do not bosh? yyyyy
  27. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 12 March 2018 20: 25
    +3
    I don’t understand the indignation about the interference of the Russian Federation in the elections in the USA - I think that the elections in the USA are so important for the whole world that it would be strange to entrust this business to the Americans alone.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 12 March 2018 21: 05
      +4
      Quote: vladimirvn
      I believe US elections are so important to the world

      for sure! And how in the Duma rejoiced
      about this!
  28. New Year day
    New Year day 12 March 2018 20: 39
    +3
    how the election campaign started! What else we hear!
  29. MY THOUGHT
    MY THOUGHT 12 March 2018 20: 46
    +3
    I will not vote for Putin !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! although I agree with him in almost everything, since 2013, in my opinion, he forgot about the fact that he has me !!!!!!
    crying crying crying
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 12 March 2018 23: 11
      0
      How old are you, son?
  30. groks
    groks 12 March 2018 21: 00
    +1
    Anyway, but Ksyushad is right in everything.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 12 March 2018 23: 13
      -1
      This is certain.
      In everything - this is the main thing.
      Or is it such a banter on your part?
      1. groks
        groks 13 March 2018 07: 53
        0
        Absolutely no banter.
        You are bred for election, when in reality there is no choice. These clowns are introduced to you (he points to other participants in the debate, - note “VO”) to show, as if, real elections.

        What a banter. Only she does not say that she is also one of the clowns.
  31. emwave
    emwave 12 March 2018 21: 07
    0
    Still, the truth voiced by Zhirinovsky from Sobchak’s book? And is she lying about her lawsuit? I won’t be surprised if she really said so - let her sit in her party. Among the Jews, too, there are all sorts of people, but the rules of decency for THIS are not written. Do not let B..g allow such happiness to the authorities.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 12 March 2018 21: 15
      +3
      Quote: emwave
      Among the Jews, too, there are all sorts of people, but the rules of decency for THIS are not written.

      For this mare, the meaning of the word RULES is unattainable. Sadness, however, it is clear that not all Jews shine with intellect ...., especially horse breeding
  32. Neko75
    Neko75 12 March 2018 21: 24
    +1
    Suckers are those who will vote for her.
  33. Radikal
    Radikal 12 March 2018 22: 05
    +1
    Quote: Tersky
    Quote: Radikal
    What is it that many "scare" the dashing nineties ?!

    But I don’t scare anyone, I survived the transitional sixties, the stagnant eighties, the dashing nineties + Chechen two thousandths and believe me a better bad world than all that you had to face.
    Quote: Radikal
    So for them, the 90s smoothly flowed into the 2000s!

    For Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, Dudaev, Basaev? The same robust untwisted, is not it?

    Firstly, it’s not you alone (in the country) who survived everything that you wrote about, and secondly, the “thin” way you say the world can very quickly turn into a hole! winked hi
  34. Loess
    Loess 12 March 2018 22: 11
    +1
    Or maybe they will write an article about Titov? I would read ...
  35. Vita vko
    Vita vko 12 March 2018 22: 29
    0
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Quote: Vita VKO
    only atheists can advocate the death penalty.

    And to keep alive one who can take other people's lives divine? belay

    If it is possible to isolate such a "beast" from other people, then you need to do this. Absolute stupidity to destroy their own souls because of all sorts of frostbite. In addition, many terrorists and killers consider such a death as martyrdom and consciously seek it. Why give them this pleasure ?. But when he knows for sure that for the rest of his life they will be stuffed with pork, their children will be taken to shelters and orphanages, and their family will be confiscated and forced to work, they will think 100 times before succumbing to the persuasion of various recruiters.
  36. sds87
    sds87 12 March 2018 22: 36
    0
    Clownery. The cams in the news amused me:
  37. Essex62
    Essex62 12 March 2018 22: 45
    0
    Elections, no choice. Today, on TV, the percentages have already been announced for each of the candidates. So to say, PROSPECTED. The most ridiculous is that the horse has the 4th place, after the fat one .. And the last Suraykin is the only alternative (according to the program) to the whole gang of hucksters. A concrete Bolshevik. Zyu and G. and <did not lie near> Only his time had not come yet. Yes, and it is unlikely to come. Young people are already poisoned by bourgeois ideology, those who still remember how society should live are getting old and not very ready for active resistance. The counter-revolution in Russia has won.
    1. cast iron
      cast iron 13 March 2018 23: 46
      0
      Suraykin looks like a clown. Therefore, no one will vote for him. And he says the right words. If there was a solid iron, steel Bolshevik, then a lot of people would vote for him. But there are no steel people in the kingdom of the state at the moment.
  38. hirurg61
    hirurg61 12 March 2018 23: 15
    0
    From the recent history of Russia. There was already one who built socialism in a single region. For eight years, Roman Abramovich made an island of socialism from Chukotka. With free kindergartens, hospitals, a decent salary, with an annual free vacation for children in Sochi and Moscow .... But Chukotka, it should be noted not the land beyond the Moscow Ring Road ....
    Therefore, all Grudininsky “successes” as an entrepreneur and manager can be thrust into one place.
    1. cast iron
      cast iron 13 March 2018 23: 44
      0
      Tales about the good Abramovich no longer even amuse. Who is it for? On full imbeciles?
      1. hirurg61
        hirurg61 16 March 2018 10: 33
        0
        To get started, go to Chukotka ... The second tell the Chukchi about this .... Third ... no third.
  39. night
    night 12 March 2018 23: 23
    +4
    Eka here is hot! This is what amazes most: comrades, stern men, do you really think that people are eager for power, what would you like to live well? Really? How old are you? Well, estimate, here is your Megacountry at the head of the corner. Dragged his relatives, friends, etc. and they began to redraw everything, redistribute it. Do you need it? You apparently did not capture the 90s. It is unlikely that such a tin will be, but also not marshmallows. Stop definitely while shaking will be. And as soon as we stop, here we have the lid. If there was a candidate who knew exactly how to smoothly enter a turn, there would be an alternative to Putin. And so either clowns or crooks.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 13 March 2018 06: 22
      +5
      That's right, let's continue to live by the principle of “No matter what happens, maybe we will live, I suppose we’re not impoverished” and vote for Putin, Medvedev, Peskov, Nabiullina, Oreshkin, Shuvalov, Dvorkovich, Gref, Kudrin, Siluanov and other cute characters. Oh yes, I forgot about friends from Gazprom and Rosneft, and gentlemen-oligarchs too. It is these people who know how to raise Russia from its knees. And Grudinin pretends to be everything, immediately surrenders everything, sells it, drinks it. He is so, yes.
    2. cast iron
      cast iron 13 March 2018 23: 43
      0
      Dear highly intellectual, and count, after 6 years, Putin will leave his chair? What then? Again the 90s. In any case, there will be a huge risk of a return to banditry and the 90s massacre.
  40. zao74
    zao74 12 March 2018 23: 23
    0
    Quote: SOF
    You blinkers, chtol, put on your head .... chez word. Turn on the brain .... in the end .....
    There is no shore, there is a feeling of powerlessness to change something ...
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 13 March 2018 03: 58
      +4
      Quote: zao74
      There is no shore, there is a feeling of powerlessness to change something ...

      You need to tear your ass from the sofa and see:
      1. - = ANTRAX = -
        - = ANTRAX = - 13 March 2018 06: 04
        +1
        new candidates and 10% do not understand what is really happening in the world today.
  41. zao74
    zao74 12 March 2018 23: 27
    0
    Quote: Essex62
    Young people are already poisoned by bourgeois ideology, those who still remember how society should live, are aging and are not very ready for active resistance.
    I do not agree. There are many young people who want the return of socialism, although they were born after the collapse, because they hear our stories about how everything was and see what is.
    1. cast iron
      cast iron 13 March 2018 23: 41
      0
      Nevertheless, a huge mass of those who believe that they will become rich in the wild capitalist Russia. They are hammered by the most primitive means from the cradle. So what a Civil War to be. There will be, as usual, a terrible massacre, to which some semi-literate sadists with diplomas will cut others exactly the same. Humans, in principle, can’t negotiate without massacre and destruction of the opponent.
  42. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 12 March 2018 23: 57
    +2
    30 years ago, I could not imagine that this could happen in my country :(
    How are they all sickened up! "Get out of their way" to suffer for the people.
  43. Petr petrov
    Petr petrov 13 March 2018 04: 20
    0
    Quote: Chertt
    Ksenia, still well done. The lack of brains and common sense, as an election platform, is creative

    But you can learn a lot of new things !!!
    For example, that Zhirik wants to pick up a hotel from the RAS for participation in the elections !!!
  44. - = ANTRAX = -
    - = ANTRAX = - 13 March 2018 06: 01
    0
    with such candidates and candidates, the complete lack of alternative choice is understandable.
  45. begemot20091
    begemot20091 13 March 2018 07: 40
    0
    Ksenia is moaning:
    - Not for her .... grabbed.
    The whole country regularly watched this idi-o-t-ku.
    House-2 from Russia is her dream.
  46. Lynx33
    Lynx33 13 March 2018 07: 41
    +1
    All candidates, except Putin, should be sent to build the northern latitudinal railway, let the society benefit. laughing
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 13 March 2018 09: 49
      +3
      Putin is ahead of everyone. Let him show the other candidates how to work by his own example.
  47. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 13 March 2018 10: 09
    0
    Grudinin well done. Execute, no mercy! And the first - sobchak)))
  48. Radikal
    Radikal 13 March 2018 13: 41
    +2
    Quote: assa67
    and where did these candidates come from? on the "echo" ... a disgrace ... what a heap is the communist in FIG? the same liberalist

    And where are the communists in this photo? winked fool
    1. cast iron
      cast iron 13 March 2018 23: 38
      0
      Well, Yavlinsky and Kudrin were at least Komsomol members during the USSR))))