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"Arguments" without facts

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The frankly helpless "criticism" of the military section of the Message of the President of the Russian Federation by the local "debunkers" of Putin contrasts sharply with the extremely serious assessment of this document by the American Pentagon


"Arguments" without facts



The reaction of the so-called “liberal” media, which are, in truth, the banal public relations officer of Washington, to the presentation by the President of the Russian Federation of the latest weapons systems, was depressingly predictable. Which, by the way, cannot but rejoice, since it indicates that they chew their bread and butter in vain and have long been in circulation as any effective organs of “partner” special propaganda.

After the initial confusion in the style of "The trouble came, from where they did not expect!", The panic working-up of the theme "Putin lied everything again!" Began.

The fact that it is precisely panic convinces the degree of primitivism and frank hack-work with which this commissioned press rushed to look for and find "irrefutable arguments" on this score.

GUGL search engine on this topic instantly turned into an almost complete list of publications, working on the "exposing the intrigues of the Kremlin." All the “royal army” was instantly reprinted by the same text, consisting practically of some empty phrases, such as “It can not be, because there can never be!” Performed by some previously unknown “experts”, for some reason from the field of cosmonautics .

I do not want to take a sin to the soul and to be accused of bias. Therefore, I will quote this “circular” that has spread throughout all the anti-Kremlin editions almost literally:

“Even their own scientists didn’t believe Putin’s boasting.
02.03.2018
Cruise missiles with nuclear power plants, which Russian President Vladimir Putin boasted of, cannot exist in nature. This was stated by the head of the Institute for Space Policy, Ivan Moiseev. 01.03.2018: "You can not put a nuclear engine on a cruise missile, and there are no such engines," said the scientist. According to Moiseyev, a similar engine exists in development, but it is cosmic. The scientist also added that no tests could be carried out in the 2017 year. "It is good if such installations are tested in 2027," he stressed. And the German expert in the field of rocket technology, Robert Schmucker, called Putin’s statement implausible. "I can not imagine that the Russians can create a small flying thermonuclear reactor," he said. According to the expert, in the near future Russia will not be able to develop a nuclear power cruise missile. ”

https://inosmi.ru/military/20180302/241612397.html

Tell me, have you seen in this “denial” of Putin at least one actual counterargument that you can touch, so to speak, with your hands? Exactly nothing but the completely infantile "I can not imagine!", There is obviously not.

As for the “authoritative expert” from the “institute of space policy”, which everyone refers to and who easily “brought to the clear water” of the President of Russia, I was not too lazy to ask “who is who?” And with some bewilderment, he discovered that this “institute” is a rather strange “group of comrades”, on whose website the most “fresh” cosmic news end in September last year, and the articles of the research staff available on the first “click” date back to 2013.

But not only that! As follows from the certificate published by Gazetoy.ru, the said head of the “Space Policy Institute” did not have the slightest touch on his work biography either for space or, especially, for matters of a purely military nature. Judge for yourself:


«Ivan Moiseev
Head of the Space Policy Institute, Scientific Director of the Moscow Space Club

Ivan Mikhailovich Moiseev was born in 1953 year. In 1981, he graduated from the Moscow Higher Technical School. N. E. Bauman. In 1981 - 1991 worked as a researcher at the Research Institute of Lifting and Transport Engineering. In 1991-1992 - expert of the Working Group under the Government of the Russian Federation. In 1992 - 1993, he is an engineer at Onyx. In 1994 year - a specialist expert of the Parliamentary Center of the Russian Federation. In 1995 - 1998, he is an engineer at the Russian Law Academy of the Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation. Since 1999 year - the head of the Institute for Space Policy. Scientific director of the Moscow Space Club, expert of the Cosmos cluster of the Skolkovo Foundation
https://www.gazeta.ru/science/lecturers/5252897.shtml

And such an inadvertent “eagle” is literally snapped up quoted by dozens of media with a strictly defined focus, as perhaps the key expert in the field of highly secret Russian military developments, which until recently was known only to a narrow circle of people with the most strict tolerances!

In general, can you imagine - to which cave level it is necessary to roll in order to use a similar sub-election “argument” not even for ordinary propaganda, but for “exposing” an official statement of the first person of the state? !! There is only one consolation in this case - it is precisely those who have not put Russia in a penny and are fed only by dousing it with mud.

With such a "quality" of these muds for the mental and moral health of the citizens of Russia can not be afraid. This “artel of useless labor” is absolutely safe for them. And maybe in something even useful. For nothing is as inspiring as the understanding of the complete stupidity of those who oppose you.

As for the attitude to Putin’s military presentation on the part of serious people in the West who are supposed to use the brain for its intended purpose, it is, like heaven, different from the earth about the nonsense that some home-grown “experts” have about it cosmic scale.

Here is how such a very serious ministry as the US Department of Defense responded to this Message:

“The Pentagon was upset by recent statements by Russian President Vladimir Putin about the development of new weapons systems. This was recognized on Wednesday by the Deputy Secretary of Defense for Political Affairs, John Rood, speaking at a hearing in the Committee on the Affairs of the Armed Forces of the House of Representatives of the US Congress.

Statements made by President Putin did not come as a surprise to us. Nevertheless, they upset us, even though we knew that Russia was developing its capabilities and followed this with alarm, ”he noted. “It is clear that all these developments were not carried out over the past few months or the last year,” Rud added.
https://news.mail.ru/politics/32781605/?frommail=1

Do you think the US Department of Defense would seriously “grieve” and “follow with alarm” Russian military developments if it were a banal propaganda fake and election hoax by the Russian authorities? Moreover, the representative of the Pentagon fully acknowledged that everything Putin said is true when he said that in the United States "they knew that Russia was developing its capabilities."

They didn’t know about it, it seems, only in the notorious “institute of space policy”, and also in that assembly of media that are unevenly breathing towards Putin and Russia, which, with diligence beyond reason, began to grasp any, even the most trashy, opportunity to minimize the effect of Putin’s speech . Which sounded for them, like a bolt from the blue. And quite predictably they got into a puddle. Where are they, in fact, the place.
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  1. Greenwood
    Greenwood 9 March 2018 05: 54
    +66
    The author, and no one, in principle, is against both missiles and new weapons. But agree, it’s rather strange, in the message to the Federal Assembly that the lion’s share of time should be devoted only to armaments, and to problems of the economy and living standards in the country, rising prices and tariffs, i.e. issues that directly relate to ordinary citizens of Russia, do not really pay attention, mentioning them almost casually with the note "we began to live even better." This is not a meeting at the Ministry of Defense or a speech by Shoigu.
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 9 March 2018 06: 05
      +16
      In general, someone else believes this corrupt press, in my opinion she has already discredited herself 100%. Before posing as complete ignoramuses, it was necessary to understand that serious people speak seriously about serious topics.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 9 March 2018 07: 16
        +16
        And what is this “space policy institute"? Wow parasites have bred ..
        Quote: Spartanez300
        In general, someone else believes this corrupt press, in my opinion she has already discredited herself 100%. Before posing as complete ignoramuses, it was necessary to understand that serious people speak seriously about serious topics.
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 9 March 2018 09: 56
          +30
          Quote: Greenwood
          But agree, rather strangely, in the message ... to devote the lion's share of time only to armaments, and to problems of the economy ... i.e. issues that directly relate to ordinary citizens of Russia do not really pay attention ...

          Judging by your text, you did not watch or listen to the message. Listen to the first hour of the President’s speech before you write Ohinea.
          This is about you, the author wrote
          All the "royal army" instantly reprinted the same text, consisting practically of just empty phrases
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 9 March 2018 10: 08
            +43
            What do you think, would the US Department of Defense seriously “upset” and “watch with anxiety” about Russian military developments if it were a banal propaganda fake

            Willingly believe! We are the strongest! Now I want to know when those 20-30% of the population, what the poverty line in Russia entrusted to Putin will be the richest?
            The president’s election speech is more like a message to the West, rather than addressing the suffering people, their aspirations and needs. By the way, I did not see any economic program there. And the cartoons are really cool!
            1. onix757
              onix757 9 March 2018 10: 15
              +32
              Quote: Stas157
              Willingly believe! We are the strongest!

              Yes, what is it))) One pre-election PR, which has little in common with reality. By the 20th year, few people remember what he said in 2018 and which gravitsaps were supposed to go into service.
              1. your1970
                your1970 12 March 2018 10: 30
                +1
                Quote: onix757
                Quote: Stas157
                Willingly believe! We are the strongest!

                Yes, what is it))) One pre-election PR, which has little in common with reality. By the 20th year, few people remember what he said in 2018 and which gravitsaps were supposed to go into service.
                -
                "#Putinvserevteslesilvsepalalo" ?? and why are you? Here and remind everyone in 2020- if there is anything to remind ..
                In order to be afraid, it is not necessary to be the strongest, it is enough to be the most terrible © dashing 90s ...
                As North Korea is now demonstrating ..
              2. GDP
                GDP 13 March 2018 13: 44
                +2
                Damn, they got it already with this anti-Putin propaganda. Everywhere! For all online media resources! Is it really impossible to simply discuss the technical side of the issue without any policy?
                For example, I also doubt the possibility in the coming decades to create a cruise missile with a nuclear propulsion. Indeed, until now I have only heard about space projects on this subject, and then in the distant future, even if such a thing could have been created, in the atmosphere, such a rocket would litter everything in its path with radiation, the only risk is to arrange Chernobyl on its territory because of failed launch - what it costs. Well, this idea is not viable, even for launching modules into space, they even abandoned this idea, the risk is too great ...
              3. Kvazar
                Kvazar Yesterday, 13: 36
                0
                Наступил середина 2021 год и так смотрим. "Мало что имеющего с реальностью".
                "Пересвет" - на опытно боевом дежурстве.
                "Посейдон" - носитель АПЛ 09852 «Белгород» заканчивает гос. испытания срок принятия флотом конец 2021 года.
                Аванград - Стоит на боевом дежурстве.
                Циркон - Завершение гос. испытаний.
                Кинжал - боевое дежурство
                Буревесник - идут испытания и доработки.
                Сармат - боевое дежурство с 2022 года.
            2. freddyk
              freddyk 9 March 2018 12: 20
              +25
              Quote: Stas157
              The president’s election speech is more like a message to the West, rather than addressing the suffering people, their aspirations and needs.


              It was to the West that he turned. And of course, another PR move before the election. Well, the people, we will continue to fight the poor, apparently until their complete destruction.)
            3. Stanislas
              Stanislas 9 March 2018 16: 19
              +17
              Quote: Stas157
              The president’s election speech is more like a message to the West, rather than addressing the suffering people, their aspirations and needs.
              And why did you decide that sending the West is not one of the first popular aspirations and needs? It can be seen that you have a very distant relation to the people. The logic here is simple: the further we send them, the calmer and easier it will be to deal with internal affairs.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 16: 42
                +11
                Quote: Stanislav
                The logic here is simple: the further we send them, the calmer and easier it will be to deal with internal affairs

                Join.
                Back at school, he came up with a rule: the further you send, the longer it will not return laughing
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 9 March 2018 16: 57
                  +17
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Back at school, he came up with a rule: the further you send, the longer it will not return

                  And I think that you are so angry, rude to everyone? And this is from your school! Well, keep up the good work. Just do not be surprised when the same thing you hear already in your address.
                  1. dSK
                    dSK 9 March 2018 21: 06
                    +4
                    Quote: Stas157
                    keep up the good work

                    Vladimir Vladimirovich last year, recalling his youth, dropped a phrase that ended - (I do not remember exactly the beginning) - "hit first!"
                    In a message to the federal assembly, he "sent" Western "partners" with the "right", and then added with the "left", blocking gas transit through Ukraine (Gazprom would not have done this without "permission").
                    Today, Poroshenko cried, he was promised another lard for the purchase of gas with a “Euro rate”, and he will have to return it with interest, the EC is not a “charity fund”. Everyone was waiting for "surprises" from their partners for the election, and now they are "digesting" themselves.
                    1. KAV
                      KAV 9 March 2018 21: 30
                      +12
                      The author, and no one, in principle, is against both missiles and new weapons. But agree, it’s rather strange, in the message to the Federal Assembly that the lion’s share of time should be devoted only to armaments, and to problems of the economy and living standards in the country, rising prices and tariffs, i.e. issues that directly relate to ordinary citizens of Russia, do not really pay attention, mentioning them almost casually with the note "we began to live even better." This is not a meeting at the Ministry of Defense or a speech by Shoigu.

                      And didn’t you think that we were on the verge of a war with the West? During preparation for the war, will you care about the welfare of the population, or about the combat readiness of the homeland? You are probably either not a very smart person, or you intentionally distort values! Fu on you ...
                      1. SK70
                        SK70 9 March 2018 22: 56
                        +4
                        Quote: KAV
                        During preparation for the war, will you care about the welfare of the population, or about the combat readiness of the homeland?

                        Or maybe GDP “ask” its friends to return their money to Russia?
                        And the kids with their wives too.
                      2. krops777
                        krops777 10 March 2018 04: 12
                        +4
                        And didn’t you think that we were on the verge of a war with the West? During preparation for the war, will you care about the welfare of the population, or about the combat readiness of the homeland? You are probably either not a very smart person, or you intentionally distort values! Fu on you ...


                        Absolutely, otherwise some people just think how to saturate their stomachs, not create parity; tomorrow there will be nothing to eat at all tomorrow. The United States took the war seriously, but it’s an honor and praise to our president to make such a reserve for the future, and some let them continue to believe that these are all cartoons.
                      3. Galleon
                        Galleon 11 March 2018 12: 47
                        +1
                        Quote: KAV
                        And didn’t you think that we were on the verge of a war with the West? During preparation for the war, will you care about the welfare of the population, or about the combat readiness of the homeland?

                        Therefore, before the war, separately selected hamsters suseka stuff and stuff, so that during deprivation to share with others? Well, now they are not divided: Or are there no poor? There is. There are many of those for whom it will not be worse during the war.
                2. Vittt
                  Vittt 9 March 2018 18: 16
                  +3
                  The logic of Pithecanthropus. Stas 157- Resp.
              2. Sasha_Sar
                Sasha_Sar 12 March 2018 11: 19
                +3
                Of course, you can send, if then you yourself will never turn to the one whom you sent. But how they deprived us of loans and technology, those whom we sent, that life was no better.
          2. rambook
            rambook 9 March 2018 13: 15
            +11
            My dear, is it nothing that all these developments have been known since Soviet times? )))
            1. KAV
              KAV 9 March 2018 21: 34
              +4
              Quote: rambook
              My dear, is it nothing that all these developments have been known since Soviet times? )))

              Not developments, but operating time, for that matter. In those days, principles were developed. Now all this is embodied "in the metal", thanks to the available technologies. Including, it’s easy to belittle the achievements of modern technologists and developers! The Aztecs, they say, had a lot of knowledge, but that's just that no one could recognize and realize them! On you too, fu!
        2. amirbek
          amirbek 9 March 2018 15: 01
          +3
          Quote: 210ox
          And what is this “space policy institute"?

          this is for the removal of evil eye sad
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 9 March 2018 16: 30
            +2
            Quote: Amirbek
            to deflect the evil eye
            Or contact with aliens ...
            expert of the Cosmos Cluster of the Skolkovo Foundation
            Ilya Ponomarev is also an expert there, it seems. And dear. Maybe something is wrong with the policy of attracting experts in Skolkovo ...
            1. dSK
              dSK 9 March 2018 20: 16
              +3
              Quote: Stanislav
              Maybe something is wrong with the policy of attracting experts in Skolkovo ...
              Yes, unfortunately, we are buying underwater drilling and gas liquefaction technologies in tri-roads, and Sklolkovo has not given birth to anything worthwhile for its entire existence ..., some "experts" ...
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 9 March 2018 20: 27
                +1
                Quote: dsk
                Yes, unfortunately, we are buying underwater drilling and gas liquefaction technologies in tri-roads, and Sklolkovo has not given birth to anything worthwhile throughout its existence ..., some “experts”

                Recently, Miller said the opposite, namely that today, as a result of import substitution, Gazprom’s needs are provided for 95% by Russian technologies and equipment, recognizing only 5% of dependence on foreign suppliers. That is why I trust Miller more in this matter ...
                1. dSK
                  dSK 9 March 2018 21: 37
                  +1
                  Gazprom "liquefied" does not export, Novatek bought technology from the French. All underwater drilling is carried out by foreign "service" companies. What gave birth to Skolkovo?
      2. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2018 07: 35
        +18
        Quote: Spartanez300
        In general, someone else believes this corrupt press, in my opinion it has already discredited itself 100%

        I believe, just the opposite .. laughing .If you spray with saliva and scold everyone and everyone, then we are doing everything right in Russia! But if you begin to praise and admire, then ALL it is time to take up the forks and dig trenches ..
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 9 March 2018 20: 30
          +7
          Quote: MIKHAN
          But if you begin to praise and admire, then ALL it is time to take up the forks and dig trenches ..

          Meehan, at least take a shovel. She will dig more handy trenches than a pitchfork))) yes
      3. rkkasa xnumx
        rkkasa xnumx 9 March 2018 08: 31
        +25
        Quote: Spartanez300
        In general, someone else believes this corrupt press, in my opinion it has already discredited itself 100%

        Interestingly, but this corrupt press (and more broadly - corrupt media), which can not be trusted, is it impossible to get them in any way? How many more presidential terms does Putin need in order to gain strength, to defeat this mighty hydra? request
        Or is it the fact that the country's leadership and corrupt media are the details of one system?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 9 March 2018 09: 39
          +11
          Quote: rkkasa 81
          Interestingly, but this corrupt press (and more broadly - corrupt media), which can not be trusted, is it impossible to get them in any way?

          Can.
          But then we will become the same as Western figures who actively suppress dissent in their information space.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 9 March 2018 11: 30
            +25
            Quote: Spade
            But then we will become the same as Western figures who actively suppress dissent in their information space.

            You are probably one of those who watch TV, and naively believes that in Russia we have real freedom of speech! There has never been any freedom of speech in Russia. All television and radio are under the strict control of the state. The Communists did not, and never will, never will, nor any radio, or the body of the channel. The oligarchic elite will easily allow you to be a liberal media (Rain, Echo, RBC ..), but never communist!
            Control everything where they can reach! Even the internet! Many political and other sites cannot be visited by the main providers (try visiting the Censor, for example). It got to the point of being thrown into jail! Blogger Alexei Kungurov, who sharply criticized the authorities, was sent to prison on completely far-fetched charges.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 11: 41
              +8
              Quote: Stas157
              try to go to the censor, for example

              Stas, you’re an engineer, sort of ... your profile says so, at least ...
              Is the word "anonymizer" unfamiliar to you?
              Here, look:

              Voila ... and I'm already in the Netherlands (look at the message box, og).
              And under such a roof - even for a censor, even for a filibust wink
              Well, well, just request
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 9 March 2018 11: 47
                +11
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Stas, you’re an engineer, sort of ... your profile says so, at least ...
                Is the word "anonymizer" unfamiliar to you?

                It is very familiar with such Internet providers as ours! Not without it. But, you see, this is not a normal situation when you have to go to tricks and circumvent stupid prohibitions.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 12: 03
                  +8
                  Quote: Stas157
                  this, you see, is not a normal situation when you have to go to tricks

                  I do not agree. Because otherwise it should be recognized that the brakes were invented by cowards.
                  Quote: Stas157
                  With Internet providers like ours

                  And here is the provider? IP masking works regardless of who your provider works for.
                  Here, check out at your leisure ... simple and informative:
              2. Vitaly Anisimov
                Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2018 13: 18
                0
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Quote: Stas157
                try to go to the censor, for example

                Stas, you’re an engineer, sort of ... your profile says so, at least ...
                Is the word "anonymizer" unfamiliar to you?
                Here, look:

                Voila ... and I'm already in the Netherlands (look at the message box, og).
                And under such a roof - even for a censor, even for a filibust wink
                Well, well, just request

                You are under the hood of the USA! Format the computer ... and .. it’s better not to communicate with you ..! negative
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 18: 13
                  +8
                  Quote: MIKHAN
                  You are under the hood of the USA! Format the computer ... and .. it’s better not to communicate with you ..!

                  BUKHANthrow a wave laughing
            2. Lopatov
              Lopatov 9 March 2018 12: 03
              +6
              Quote: Stas157
              You are probably one of those who watch TV, and naively believes that in Russia we have real freedom of speech!

              There is no real "freedom of speech" anywhere in the world, no matter what they say

              Quote: Stas157
              but never communist!

              Dad Zyu does not want to spend money, he wants to perform exclusively for free in some “Vesti 24”? By the way, there they appear regularly. Despite your statements.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 9 March 2018 12: 18
                +10
                Quote: Spade
                Dad Zyu does not want to spend money, he wants to perform exclusively for free in some “Vesti 24”? By the way, there they appear regularly. Despite your statements.

                Where? In a government-controlled television channel, in a predetermined format, or in its own broadcasts, on its own television?
                Quote: Spade
                There is no true “freedom of speech” anywhere in the world.

                That's when there is nothing to argue, then generalizations immediately begin! Nowhere in the world! Ah, they live like that everywhere! There are beggars in Omerika too! We are not alone! And so on, a lot of variations.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 9 March 2018 12: 24
                  +5
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Where? In a government-controlled television channel

                  Exactly. In a government controlled channel. And more regularly.
                  Quote: Stas157
                  or in their own programs, on their own television?

                  As I understand it, the state is obliged to create its own channel for Zyuganov with its own money?
                  1. Stas157
                    Stas157 9 March 2018 12: 33
                    +8
                    Quote: Spade
                    Exactly. In a government controlled channel. And more regularly.

                    Well, not every day, and only in a given format, beneficial to customers.
                    Quote: Spade
                    As I understand it, the state is obliged to create its own channel for Zyuganov with its own money?

                    Misunderstood. The state should give the communists frequencies and channels, permissions, so that a television or radio channel could be. Without this, no money will help the channel open. Zyuganov himself spoke about this more than once! Nobody permits, they don’t emit any frequencies ... What is it, no matter how the fight against dissent? AND?
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 9 March 2018 12: 49
                      +1
                      Quote: Stas157
                      Well, not every day, and only in a given format, beneficial to customers.

                      Of course not every day. However, something did not notice that Zyuganov was silenced at the same time, so that he only said that “in the given format”

                      Quote: Stas157
                      Misunderstood. The state should give the communists frequencies and channels, permissions, so that a television or radio channel could be.

                      Give what others have to buy? Now I looked, the channel "Friday" laid out for the place "sport plus" 36,1 million rubles. at a time. By the way, for some reason the Communist Party of the Russian Federation did not fight for the “button”. They are probably waiting for the state to do this for free.
                      1. Siberian54
                        Siberian54 9 March 2018 13: 57
                        +1
                        most likely Uncle Zyu simply has few richest Jews in the party, and her budget will not pull the channel ..
                      2. Stas157
                        Stas157 9 March 2018 16: 47
                        +6
                        Quote: Spade
                        Give what others have to buy? Now I looked, the channel "Friday" laid out for the place "sport plus" 36,1 million rubles. at a time. By the way, for some reason the Communist Party of the Russian Federation did not fight for the “button”. They are probably waiting for the state to do this for free.

                        Why are you all transferring money! For leftist ideas and communists we have a third of the country! Do you really think that if there was money on the Friday channel, then there will be no communists on the channel? The Communists are not given frequencies for any money. Zyuganov spoke about this.
                        Quote: Spade
                        Of course not every day. However, something did not notice that Zyuganov was silenced at the same time, so that he only said that “in the given format”

                        But this is you in vain! It shut up your mouth. Constantly! They do not give what he wants to say, and it has always been.
                  2. Stanislas
                    Stanislas 9 March 2018 16: 57
                    +3
                    Quote: Spade
                    As I understand it, the state is obliged to create its own channel for Zyuganov with its own money?
                    Interest Ask. A rich minority can have its own channels for informational support of their political interests, and the poor majority cannot because of lack of money. Should the state not compensate for this illegal loss of rights?
              2. rkkasa xnumx
                rkkasa xnumx 9 March 2018 14: 32
                +1
                Quote: Spade
                Dad Zyu does not want to spend money, he wants to perform exclusively for free in some “Vesti 24”? By the way, there they appear regularly.

                Dad Zyu, this is such a tame opposition. There are, for example, "liberals," but there are types of "reds."
                Quote: Spade
                Give what others have to buy?

                Well, of course, the bourgeoisie has the means to buy. After all, power and money are in their hands.
                And by the way, the rare appearances on TV even of such "reds" as Zyuganov, can not be compared with the shaft of anti-Soviet propaganda. Films, programs, various actions, speeches and statements - where socialism, the Soviet Union and its leaders are more or less denigrated.
            3. KAV
              KAV 9 March 2018 21: 44
              +1
              Quote: Stas157
              Control everything where they can reach! Even the internet! Many political and other sites cannot be visited by the main providers (try visiting the Censor, for example). It got to the point of being thrown into jail! Blogger Alexei Kungurov, who sharply criticized the authorities, was sent to prison on completely far-fetched charges.

              Alas, the censor has long turned from a political site into a site for inciting ethnic hatred. Do you feel the difference? Or not? Say for jail, for harsh criticism? Can you give an example of this harsh criticism? Maybe the criticism has crossed the limits of what is permitted by law !?
              PS And maybe you know a country where all sites are allowed a priori? And there is no government filtering on the Internet? Tell me I think this is Madagascar, with its beautiful king Lemur ...
          2. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2018 11: 51
            0
            Quote: Spade
            Quote: rkkasa 81
            Interestingly, but this corrupt press (and more broadly - corrupt media), which can not be trusted, is it impossible to get them in any way?

            Can.
            But then we will become the same as Western figures who actively suppress dissent in their information space.

            Well said Lopatov .. !!! hi
          3. rkkasa xnumx
            rkkasa xnumx 9 March 2018 13: 50
            +5
            Quote: Spade
            But then we will become the same as Western figures actively suppressing dissent in their information space

            Firstly, to be honest, I doubt very much that you are well acquainted with the western info space, and accordingly with the restraints there.
            And secondly, what is the relationship between the venality of the media, and dissent? Do not stop dissent, for example, when the left has the same opportunities for propaganda as the gentlemen of the capitalists. And here we are not talking about dissent, but about (in your opinion) - outright lies. And what prevents the current government from overtly lying from corrupt media outlets?
            And here that also interferes that - and the country's leadership, and corrupt media, these are the details of one system.
            Quote: Spade
            There is no real "freedom of speech" anywhere in the world, no matter what they say

            That is, we have already become - "the same as Western figures, actively suppressing dissent in their information space" (C) ? laughing
        2. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2018 11: 16
          0
          Quote: rkkasa 81
          Or is it the fact that the country's leadership and corrupt media are the details of one system?

          We are all tied to this .. heh heh Normal answer? soldier
          1. rkkasa xnumx
            rkkasa xnumx 9 March 2018 13: 52
            +1
            Quote: MIKHAN
            Did you answer normally?

            Did you really answer?
            1. Vitaly Anisimov
              Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2018 14: 32
              0
              Quote: rkkasa 81
              Quote: MIKHAN
              Did you answer normally?

              Did you really answer?

              I MIKHAN and it all speaks for itself! he he
              Or do you need specifics dear ..?
              1. rkkasa xnumx
                rkkasa xnumx 9 March 2018 15: 35
                +5
                Why is this your flood?
                1. Vitaly Anisimov
                  Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2018 16: 15
                  +3
                  Quote: rkkasa 81
                  Why is this your flood?

                  Yes, just under the influence of Putin's “message”! At us at "Uryaklov" the soul sings straight .. So be gentlemen! laughing
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 9 March 2018 07: 39
      +14
      Those who understand are silent, and those who are loggers are screaming. Now the most common specialties are expert and political scientist. Despite the fact that this is not taught anywhere. lol
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 11: 43
        +4
        Quote: siberalt
        Now the most common specialties are expert and political scientist

        Lawyers more negative
    3. cariperpaint
      cariperpaint 9 March 2018 07: 46
      +14
      here why juggle? firstly, if you yourself did not watch it, then keep quiet better. out of two hours over one hour, the conversation was about everything except weapons. from roads to motherhood. and then they talked a lot about the defense sector as a type of industry. by and large about these new products flew by quickly and did not bother with them. then they talked about scientists and fundamental science. why are you lying then?
      1. freddyk
        freddyk 9 March 2018 12: 33
        +16
        Quote: cariperpaint
        out of two hours over one hour, the conversation was about everything except weapons. from roads to motherhood

        Putin has been talking for 18 years, and he speaks correctly and beautifully. But this is bad luck - they don’t really listen to him, some even prefer to sleep under the speeches of the guarantor. Why? My opinion is that everyone in the audience knows that Putin is not speaking for them, but for the electorate. Indeed, for the failure to comply with his decrees, there will not be any consequences for them personally. But the people will be touched, what a caring president we have.
    4. cariperpaint
      cariperpaint 9 March 2018 07: 47
      +14
      as much as 12 minutes. the lion's share of pancake.
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    5. kenig1
      kenig1 9 March 2018 08: 20
      +2
      It is strange that you, without knowing the performance, draw conclusions.
    6. SPACE
      SPACE 9 March 2018 08: 27
      +13
      Quote: Greenwood
      But agree, it’s rather strange, in the message to the Federal Assembly that the lion’s share of time should be devoted only to armaments,

      No, this is not strange, given what is happening in Ukraine and Syria, or you don’t hear that the United States declared Russia the enemy number 1? And every Western politician and military man every time mentions this. It’s strange that you don’t notice it, although no it’s not strange ...
      Quote: Greenwood
      and the problems of the economy and living standards in the country, rising prices and tariffs, i.e. issues that directly concern ordinary residents of Russia do not really pay attention,

      Before you build a house and establish life, build a fence. Safety is more important, including for ordinary residents. More attention was paid to internal problems, although there were problems as such, where little government involvement was needed. And the rest should be decided by the people themselves on the ground, people, are you free? So go ahead, there will be no freebies.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 9 March 2018 08: 43
        +10
        And no one says that “everyone” “says” that it’s fake, just some (just some) people doubt the veracity of what the President said. Some (like the idiot who speaks of a fusion reactor on a rocket ("tokamak" -ag)) simply did not understand the issue and have a concept about weapons and technology at the level of "blondes". Moiseev, in fact, says that a rocket reactor (albeit a space one) is created but will be really ready only in the 20s, and he is not aware of the testing of an atmospheric nuclear engine, that's all. I don’t understand why the author was “aroused”. That people doubt the presence of such weapons as a barrage of a nuclear cruise missile? For example, I doubt it, because I can’t imagine how such a product was tested and will be tested for working off, it’s “Chernobyl” in the air .... The fact that it was tested, a fact, last year in Europe, severe air pollution was recorded in the end radioactive isotopes leading its origin in Russia. And for testing the “product”, it needs repeated launches. Where to test it? Over the oceans? I’m not sure that this is allowed by world law, and the “exhaust” will blow it out half the world again, such a “howl” will rise in the Western media - “mother do not grieve” ... These are exactly the aspects that make people doubt the existence of such weapons -experienced model, with incomprehensible efficiency and capabilities (well, not to believe the cartoons, after all), this is far from being a “system in service”.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 9 March 2018 09: 42
          +8
          Quote: Snail N9
          and he is not aware of the atmospheric nuclear engine tests

          That is the problem.
          A real expert should know this.
          And about the tests of Soviet nuclear engines for aviation, and about the American.
          1. Siberian54
            Siberian54 9 March 2018 14: 01
            +1
            And you don’t think that he just has a non-disclosure subscription ...
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 9 March 2018 09: 20
        +18
        Before you build a house and build life, build a fence
        Can you live under the fence for 18 years? And judging by the message, nobody will establish life, the whole fence (garden) is fenced.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 09: 26
          +12
          Quote: Gardamir
          Can you live under the fence for 18 years?

          Well, you live ... and you’re quite well preserved, judging by the activity on the Internet wink
          Quote: Gardamir
          And judging by the message, nobody will establish life

          Children's phrase, but it’s quite appropriate: "everyone understands the extent of his depravity."
          This is about you and the message, if it’s not immediately clear yes
          1. zyzx
            zyzx 9 March 2018 09: 53
            +16
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Quote: Gardamir
            Can you live under the fence for 18 years?
            Well, you live ... and you’re quite well preserved, judging by the activity on the Internet

            Well, after the war, ancestors launched the satellite 15 years later, and here the genius of our time builds a fence for 18 years.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 10: 06
              +14
              Quote: zyzx
              Well, after the war, the ancestors launched the satellite 15 years later, and here the genius of our time builds a fence for 18 years

              Ay-ah-ah ... unsportsmanlike, sweetheart. And stupid in addition.
              Well, since such a booze has gone - catch the pitch:
              1. After the war, there was no need to build a “fence”; it already was. ATS available (+ social camp, no), the army is trained and armed ... what else is needed for happiness?
              2. After the war, you would have felled the forest for such attacks on the leader. This is best for you. And now pop yourself on the Internet without fear. Democracy however what
              Which also, by the way, does not contribute to the fastest "construction of the fence," I note.
              3. The 90s were no worse than that war: the police department was destroyed, NATA at the doorstep, a parade of nezalezhnosti, economic communications were cut off ...
              Restoring the country after this is very difficult ... but, surprisingly, perhaps it turns out.
              If you don’t see all this, then you should go to the optometrist. If you do not understand - to other doctors, specialized.
              That's about as yes
              1. zyzx
                zyzx 9 March 2018 14: 27
                +12
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                After the war, there was no need to build a “fence”

                Yeah, after the war, the country had to be built, the entire western part from scratch. Just like that and build, disassemble the ruins, build new buildings.
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                After the war, you would have felled the forest for such attacks on the leader.

                But don’t talk about the forest, la la and poplar, tell us about billions of people who were shot and trillions of those tortured in the gulag.
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                The 90s were no worse than that war:

                But after that, it became clear that the level of knowledge of history and intelligence is your level of oyster.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 14: 29
                  +5
                  Quote: zyzx
                  in terms of knowledge of history and intelligence your level is oyster

                  Thanks, really made fun laughing good laughing
                  1. zyzx
                    zyzx 9 March 2018 14: 31
                    +10
                    But what kind of quiet mind should one have to compare the 90s with the World War?
              2. zyzx
                zyzx 9 March 2018 14: 40
                +8
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                After the war, there was no need to build a “fence”, it was already

                Yes not really? Was the same nuclear bomb? It was this comrade Stalin who built this fence for us for 100 years, everything else is a delivery vehicle, which of course is just as important. And if we didn’t test the bomb at 49m, at 50m we would lie in radioactive ash, where the enemies were real and not Facebook.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 17: 09
                  +4
                  Quote: zyzx
                  Yes not really?

                  * really - together. School
                  Quote: zyzx
                  Was the same nuclear bomb?

                  * also - together. School
                  "Nuclear bomb" in a mobilized country vs the restoration of everything and everything after the 90s (including manageability of the country as a system) - the second is definitely not easier.
                  Quote: zyzx
                  the enemies there were real and not facebook

                  Yes Yes. And now they are all white and fluffy ...
                  Get out of my sight, don't bring me to sin stop
        2. Alex66
          Alex66 12 March 2018 09: 13
          +3
          Yes, only those who build the fence interrupt as anyone as they can, and those who manage the construction of the fence are not so poorly settled, who are nearby on the lake, and who are in exotic countries. Only the builders of the fence should hold on. no money for their housing.
      3. freddyk
        freddyk 9 March 2018 12: 44
        +9
        Quote: SPACE
        Before you build a house and establish life, build a fence. Safety is more important, including for ordinary residents.


        The USSR did not even have a fence, but an "iron" curtain. And he could not save the Great Country precisely because they ceased to deal with internal problems, and not a few of them had accumulated. By speculating on these problems, Judah and ruined the country, which was more than in order with defense.
    7. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 9 March 2018 09: 15
      +8
      It’s probably not a secret for you that the air already “clearly smells like a war with Russia”. The situation as in 1939-1941. The same rhetoric of the West, almost the quotes coincide, only the authors are different. So the GDP decided to show that if something, then they can’t hide, not hide. To moderate the ardor of Gauleiter and other Nazis.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 9 March 2018 09: 22
        +12
        The situation as in 1939-1941.
        that is, did we safely slip through the 37th? Moreover, the fifth column is being intensively brought up in the country.
        1. SPACE
          SPACE 9 March 2018 13: 25
          +1
          Quote: Gardamir
          Moreover, the fifth column is being intensively brought up in the country.

          Fools and egoists are also growing.
          Tell Gardamir how do you assess Putin in connection with the fact that he took the Crimea? Let's see where to rank you.
          1. onix757
            onix757 9 March 2018 13: 33
            +10
            Tell Gardamir how do you assess Putin in connection with the fact that he took the Crimea? Let's see where to rank you.

            Crimea to Ukraine? An unequal exchange. You either take everything and absorb the sanctions to the full or do not go. But they won a little bit in geopolitics.
            1. SPACE
              SPACE 9 March 2018 14: 09
              +2
              Quote: onix757
              Crimea to Ukraine? An unequal exchange. You either take everything and absorb the sanctions to the full or do not go. But they won a little bit in geopolitics.

              Actually, there was no exchange, they just took Crimea, Ukraine seemed to be independent. Even the Victory in the Second World War was preceded by the Battle of Stalingrad, the Kursk Bulge, Operation Bagration ... Itd, and what separately does the Battle of Stalingrad not matter? All Ukraine to you? Who are you? Maybe you’re not very smart at all, why should you equal yourself fool Besides, how and with what? You say that everything is very bad? A poor man, no army, only Putin cartoons? You, the “people” cannot even suck up these petty sanctions without hysteria, give them a revolution, give them the whole Ukraine to feed fool And then it's not evening yet ...
              In other words, is Crimea not yours? Not surprisingly, Grudinin also carefully avoids questions about the Crimea, just like the evil spirit of the cross.
              1. onix757
                onix757 9 March 2018 14: 39
                +12
                Actually, there was no exchange, they just took Crimea, Ukraine seemed to be independent.

                You are a savvy supporter of hpp, because based on your words, the Russian Federation is an aggressor. They didn’t take it right, but he himself joined as a result of the will of the people.
                Even the Victory in the Second World War was preceded by the Battle of Stalingrad, the Kursk Bulge, Operation Bagration ... Itd, and what separately does the Battle of Stalingrad not matter?

                The victory in the Great Patriotic War was forged by the Soviet people under the leadership of great leaders and commanders. But today's authorities can only bashfully not mention the name of Stalin and drape the mausoleum.
                You, the “people” cannot even suck up these petty sanctions without hysteria, give them a revolution, give them the whole Ukraine to feed

                The people can suck up any sanctions if they see that the interests of the country and not money bags are being defended in the war. And yes, only the authorities who see 43 million would be enough for servicing the pipe. People’s power sees in Ukraine the granary, scientific, industrial and human potential.
                1. Stanislas
                  Stanislas 9 March 2018 17: 41
                  +1
                  Quote: onix757
                  based on your words, the Russian Federation is an aggressor.
                  Why are you pestering a person, why aren't you sitting on the "censor"? From the words "they just took the Crimea" (which, in the context, he himself asked to go back to Russia) to suck such nonsense - this is how you should be able to suck ...
                  1. Stanislas
                    Stanislas 10 March 2018 06: 16
                    0
                    PS I apologize for the overly rude style, but yesterday, without reading the comment, I took you for the Bandera troll.
              2. Tatanka Yotanka
                Tatanka Yotanka 9 March 2018 16: 35
                +4
                Quote: SPACE
                In other words, is Crimea not yours? Not surprisingly, Grudinin also carefully avoids questions about the Crimea, just like the evil spirit of the cross.

                or confusing with sobchak or balabolstvo, where he was not asked the current question, there are dozens of videos in YouTube
          2. Gardamir
            Gardamir 9 March 2018 14: 09
            +8
            so that he took the Crimea?
            And how do you feel about the fact that tens of thousands of people died in the Donbass? And who interfered in taking all of Ukraine? Ah, he is naive, he recently admitted that his partners had deceived him. Now the whole Kremlin is rewriting manuals, you can’t talk about a cunning plan.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 14: 28
              +7
              Quote: Gardamir
              tens of thousands of people died in the Donbass

              You ukrovoinov also counted here? wink
              Quote: Gardamir
              And who interfered in taking all of Ukraine?

              Mind. It’s not enough to take, it’s necessary to keep still. And here the score would certainly go to tens of thousands.
              Quote: Gardamir
              Ah, he is naive, he recently admitted that his partners deceived him

              Time? And do not blush? Symptomatic yes
              You work for wear Gardamir... rest at least a bit, or what?
              1. Gardamir
                Gardamir 9 March 2018 14: 41
                +3
                Time? And do not blush?
                looked in the mirror?
                And so?
                https://topwar.ru/137414-vladimir-putin-v-svoe-vr
                emya-my-proyavili-nekompetentnost-sdav-svoi-pozic
                ii.html
                https://topwar.ru/137410-vladimir-putin-o-ssha-on
                i-obmanuli-rossiyu-podderzhav-gosperevorot-na-ukr
                aine.html
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 15: 44
                  +5
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  And so?

                  So what? belay
    8. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 9 March 2018 09: 39
      +11
      Quote: Greenwood
      The author, and no one, in principle, is against both missiles and new weapons. But agree, it’s rather strange, in the message to the Federal Assembly that the lion’s share of time should be devoted only to armaments, and to problems of the economy and living standards in the country, rising prices and tariffs, i.e. issues that directly relate to ordinary citizens of Russia, do not really pay attention, mentioning them almost casually with the note "we began to live even better." This is not a meeting at the Ministry of Defense or a speech by Shoigu.

      The first part of the message was just devoted to economic issues and the proposal of a program to improve the social sphere and economy. And the second part of the message was allotted to the new weapons, which was addressed not even to the Federal Assembly, but primarily to muddy guys from overseas in order to warn them of stupid things that they obviously intended to do with regard to Russia. We do not know the information that our special services possess, and therefore it may very well be that a timely demonstration of the "cartoons" delayed the start of the war for an indefinite period.
    9. Beholder
      Beholder 9 March 2018 10: 01
      +6
      But do not lie. 2/3 of the time the economy and social sphere and 1/3 only weapons.
      Review with a stopwatch, and then express your opinion.
    10. populist
      populist 9 March 2018 10: 16
      +6
      there is no ideology, no spirit, the economy is in full swing, the atrocities of liberals in government, a complete failure in education, culture and science. Monstrous deceit reigns, which is already impossible to resolve. The truth has disappeared so far beyond the horizon that we do not even know in which direction it was once. This is a sea of ​​lies. And again, everything becomes hopeless, and the bottom becomes deeper and deeper. Here is a paradox

      Alexander Dugin March 1, 2018
    11. Boris55
      Boris55 9 March 2018 10: 24
      +4
      Quote: Greenwood
      But agree, it’s rather strange, in the message to the Federal Assembly that the lion’s share of time should be devoted only to armaments,

      Since when did 1/3 become the lion's share? What became of the lions, crushed? laughing
      The US openly announced the possibility of using nuclear weapons for any reason. Russia simply could not help but answer.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 9 March 2018 11: 29
        +2
        If you go to any news channel, the news there is divided according to this principle: "politics", "economy", "society", "science and technology", "armed forces". The President’s message is divided according to the same principle: that is, he covered: “politics”, “economy”, “society”, “science” and “armed forces”. Correctly?. That is, his speech should be "divided" into 5 parts (well, or into 4 parts, "science and technology and" he "smeared" in all other parts). That is, he had to give each part about 30 minutes of time — that is, approximately equally. "Military unit" he spent 45 minutes (most). Then, according to this https://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/dic_wingwords/139
        4 /% D0% 9B% D1% 8C% D0% B2% D0% B8% D0% BD% D0% B0% D1% 8F - this is the “largest”, that is, the “lion's share”. I don’t understand why they stuck to the person who wrote about this.
    12. flicker
      flicker 9 March 2018 13: 43
      +2
      strange enough, in a message to the federal assembly, the lion's share of the time to devote only to arms
      "only armament" ... wow! This is not just weapons, it is a SCIENTIFIC BREAKTHROUGH, which is proved precisely by the reaction of Russophobes of all stripes: cartoons, fairy tales. "Cartoons and Tales" is standing ovation scientists, engineers, designers and other specialists who had a hand in the creation of such weapons.
      1. onix757
        onix757 9 March 2018 13: 46
        +10
        Quote: flicker
        This is not just weapons, it is SCIENTIFIC BREAKTHROUGH

        These breakthroughs hail from Soza and are 30-60 years old. For the Russian Federation, this is copy-paste and it is not clear yet whether it is successful or not.
        1. flicker
          flicker 9 March 2018 14: 14
          +4
          These breakthroughs hail from Soza and are 30-60 years old.
          And what to yell, that these are cartoons, that "this cannot be"? And why so far (30-60 years) no one has such a weapon? Why, besides us, no one has shot such a cartoon? I do not believe that no one can make cartoons except us.
          A) The Pentagon is not inclined to believe that these are "cartoons." B) The audience shouts that these are cartoons. C) We combine these two opposite estimates and get: a scientific breakthrough, and an incredible one.
    13. would
      would 9 March 2018 22: 14
      +6
      Is it strange? Nothing strange. If you devote speech to problems that are only getting worse, and not improving, then this will greatly diminish the popularity of the people. You have to say how badly the president worked, how badly the State Duma worked, how corrupt the police are, and so on. And this is not at all what is needed for the de facto pre-election speech, here you need to "live better, live more fun." So they found at least some area where at least something happened, that is, strategic weapons. And then in reality there is not so colorful.
    14. New Year day
      New Year day 9 March 2018 23: 23
      +2
      Quote: Greenwood
      it is rather strange in the message to the federal assembly to devote the lion's share of time only to armaments, and to problems of the economy and living standards in the country, rising prices and tariffs, i.e. issues that directly relate to ordinary citizens of Russia do not really pay attention, mentioning them virtually casually with the note "we began to live even better."

    15. avdkrd
      avdkrd 10 March 2018 02: 17
      +2
      Quote: Greenwood
      But agree, it’s rather strange, in the message to the Federal Assembly that the lion’s share of time should be devoted only to arms, and to the problems of the economy and living standards in the country, rising prices and tariffs, i.e. issues that directly relate to ordinary citizens of Russia

      Maybe because it is about the sovereignty of Russia and this, according to the head of state, is much more important than prices and tariffs? Maybe this message is not so much to the federal assembly as to “partners”, thanks to the frantic policy of which tariffs and prices are currently such as they are?
    16. Spook
      Spook 12 March 2018 12: 28
      +1
      By the way, you yourself answered your question))) probably for us now it should be more relevant than prices and tariffs.

      We are at a break in history and the question that directly concerns ordinary residents of Russia - will they live or not)
    17. Nick
      Nick 12 March 2018 18: 34
      0
      Quote: Greenwood
      devote the lion's share of time only to weapons,

      Well n lion. About 40% of the time.
      Quote: Greenwood
      and the problems of the economy and living standards in the country, rising prices and tariffs, i.e. issues that directly relate to ordinary citizens of Russia do not really pay attention

      security issues directly concern all residents of Russia, and in the first place. And the tariffs and the availability of warm sartir are already in the second. Because as a deceased, the problems of the existence of living matter will be ... more precisely, they will no longer be so relevant, that is, completely not relevant. Alas... request
  2. Vard
    Vard 9 March 2018 05: 56
    +9
    The frank wretchedness of this public frankly pleases ...
    1. 210ox
      210ox 9 March 2018 07: 58
      +2
      However, this audience in our country often looks in its mouth ..
      Quote: Vard
      The frank wretchedness of this public frankly pleases ...
  3. solovald
    solovald 9 March 2018 06: 03
    +13
    There are no particular doubts about the descendants of Satan, but ... not everything is so obvious about the nuclear power plant and the rest of the wafer.
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 9 March 2018 07: 03
    +4
    "Pentagon afflicted recent statements by Russian President Vladimir Putin on the development of new weapons systems. This was acknowledged on Wednesday by US Under Secretary of Defense for Political Affairs John Rood,

    So do not be “upset”, but shoot. They put the mericatosia in the backyard, where it has long been a place. And take all of your many, many lard greens for the development of missile defense and other rubbish, with you to the barn, it might do anything. bully
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 9 March 2018 07: 34
      +14
      I already told you that they will print their own greens without any problems. And the whole world, including Russia, will pay for this by selling resources for their greenery. hi
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 9 March 2018 08: 22
        +7
        Ingvar 72 Today, 07:34 ↑
        I already told youthat they will print their own greens without any problems. And the whole world, including Russia, will pay for this by selling resources for their greenery. hi

        No. And forgive me, you are not an authority for me to remember your spells. All-Drags have always been. hi
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 9 March 2018 10: 17
          +11
          Logic and facts are authority for everyone, even for the finished idiots. wink
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 9 March 2018 11: 55
            +2
            Ingvar 72 Today, 10:17 ↑ New
            Logic and facts are authority for everyone, even for the finished idiots. wink

            Where is it, your logic? I don’t answer the second part of the delusional post - I won’t throw the beads before the .... hi
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 9 March 2018 15: 02
              +12
              And the logic is that the pendos, having taken care of the GDP statement, will increase the military budget, while increasing the public debt (which naturally no one is going to give). At the same time, they will create jobs at the enterprises of the military-industrial complex and military design bureaus. We will boast of a lack of public debt, continuing to finance the US economy, selling resources for candy wrappers, and investing them at meager interest in the US Treasury.
              That's the whole logic. hi
          2. dzvero
            dzvero 9 March 2018 12: 13
            +9
            Facts are authority only for the thinking; the rest in fact only interferes smile
          3. New Year day
            New Year day 9 March 2018 23: 26
            +4
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Logic and facts authority for everyone, even for the finished idiots

            they just don’t remember how the USSR overcame in competition with the United States. And if you take the bottom line, then the US military budget is about 700 billion, and the Russian Federation - 42. The entire budget of the Russian Federation = the state budget of California.
            Well, besides money, they will block everything that is possible, but what about without import?

            They do not even know about such a dependence of the Russian Federation on the enemy. By box, everything is fine, only the customs says otherwise
      2. SPACE
        SPACE 9 March 2018 09: 14
        +4
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        And the whole world, including Russia, will pay for this by selling resources for their greenery.

        To feed the poor and the poor, to put on shoes, to dress, to make you feel smart and meaningful, fill the network with another stupid thing from a foreign iPhone bought on credit. So that while you have fun, take care of your parents retired. And so it will be until you yourself learn how to whine, whine, ask and be sick and imitate work, and Work, work hard and create something, create what people need.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 9 March 2018 09: 25
          +16
          bought on credit overseas iPhone
          Well, people are to blame! Or maybe those who created such an economy?
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 09: 34
            +9
            Quote: Gardamir
            Well, people are to blame! Or maybe those who created such an economy?

            Gardamir, people are a very general concept.
            Here you are, of course, the people. And I am also a people. But there is a nuance: you constantly whine and complain about life, but I somehow somehow do not.
            And the problem here, IMHO, is somewhere in the DNA area though.
            What do you think?
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 9 March 2018 09: 54
              +10
              somewhere in the DNA area though.
              You are right here. For example, I don’t know how to get a title in a week. However, if you find a director for my stories, then I will not have time to sit here.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 10: 01
                +8
                Quote: Gardamir
                You are right here. For example, I don’t know how to get a title in a week

                You don’t know much yet; don’t be shy.
                And do not attach such importance to the number of likes. After the minuses have disappeared, local "epaulets" do not mean ... well, nothing at all yes
                Quote: Gardamir
                if you find a director for my stories

                Do I need it? Keep ... shining with intelligence laughing
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 9 March 2018 10: 20
                  +12
                  And some people make him absent! good good
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 10: 57
                    +7
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    And some people make him absent! good good

                    Are you hinting at yourself, or what?
                    "Self-criticism is a sign of growth" (c).
                    So don’t be sad so much, you are still ahead yes
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 9 March 2018 11: 02
                      +10
                      Not a case in the railway troops served? Somehow very professionally translate arrows! laughing
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 11: 04
                        +7
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Not a case in the railway troops served?

                        Nah ... tankers we ... were request
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        very professional translate arrows

                        Do not climb under the load (which arrow), and you will be happy laughing
          2. Sadko88
            Sadko88 9 March 2018 10: 14
            +2
            God punish England!
          3. SPACE
            SPACE 9 March 2018 11: 25
            +6
            Quote: Gardamir
            Well, people are to blame! Or maybe those who created such an economy?

            It was created by the Americans. The world economy is the same everywhere, then it is global, the laws of business are universal. But people everywhere are different, some are smart, others are stupid, some plow, while others hurt. Or will you argue that Japan or Germany and South Korea differ in something, at the legislative level, from you? or do they have different business laws? Not at all, just after the collapse of the Union and the loss of CMEA markets, you fell in development to the level of third world countries, and smart ones went ahead, nobody needed your goods and services, except for oil and gas (but this is not your achievement, it is a favor fate), and without you, wise men, and in other places enough and they do not sit in place, so your place does not happen empty. And the economist and ruler who could, in the blink of an eye, non-violently pull the country from a quagmire into the foremost, was not born yet on the planet. And your strawberry Grudinin, this is not a good therapist Putin and especially not a surgeon Stalin, will not be able to! This can only be achieved by the systematic, constant, conscious work of all citizens and the government, without shocks, revolutions, and idiocy. By the way, the origin and availability of rich people is the first sign and condition for the beginning of the growth of prosperity and ordinary citizens (now I will hire builders, do you want to earn extra money?) They are, have been and will be, in any prosperous country in the world, it does not interfere with development, but only promotes.
            Z.Y. If imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism, then Socialism is the highest stage of imperialism, but for this, neither the time nor the brains have come yet.
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 9 March 2018 11: 35
              +12
              It was created by the Americans
              In Russia?
              the economist and ruler who could, in the blink of an eye, non-violently pull the country from a quagmire to the foremost, was not born yet on the planet.
              Do you know how much we got bogged down in these 18 years? how many enterprises, cities and villages are destroyed. And your advice to work is similar to the advice of a Petersburg official who, having handed the spiners to the elderly, advised to relax.
              1. SPACE
                SPACE 9 March 2018 11: 57
                +5
                Quote: Gardamir
                Do you know how much we got bogged down in these 18 years?

                You may be bogged down, you will see the guilty in the mirror. I see growth and positive aspects everywhere, people do not ache, but live. Read carefully, I indicated what destroyed your enterprises, I myself witnessed when the "smart" communist workers, thanks to the goats LuChubais received and headed the company that became their property, derailed it for a couple of years, completely ruining it, naively deciding that it was only thanks to them mind and technical professionalism, they all come to buy.
                You will be the same about spiner as you fool to suck in.
                1. Gardamir
                  Gardamir 9 March 2018 14: 12
                  +8
                  about spiner
                  https://ria.ru/society/20180307/1515989735.html
                  You are kept there on the stream, and it is silly to answer the same thing every month, but in the zero years more enterprises were destroyed several times than in the 90s.
              2. Winnie76
                Winnie76 9 March 2018 12: 11
                +3
                Quote: Gardamir
                Do you know how much we got bogged down in these 18 years? how many enterprises, cities and villages are destroyed.

                Do you miss the times of Misha and Bori? Wanted restructuring? Pluralism is not enough for the body laughing
                1. onix757
                  onix757 9 March 2018 12: 19
                  +11
                  Quote: Winnie76
                  Do you miss the times of Misha and Bori? Wanted restructuring?

                  And how are the last 18 years different from the previous decade?
                  1. Winnie76
                    Winnie76 9 March 2018 12: 26
                    +3
                    Quote: onix757
                    And how are the last 18 years different from the previous decade?

                    Are you blind What was built under Yeltsin and Gorbachev? The country survived. And how much is configured now. How much money is invested in infrastructure.
                    1. onix757
                      onix757 9 March 2018 12: 40
                      +11
                      Quote: Winnie76
                      Are you blind

                      On the contrary
                      Quote: Winnie76
                      What was built under Yeltsin and Gorbachev?

                      Well, under Gorbachev, Buran flew, the factories worked and the social protection of the population was strong. When ebn rolled by inertia during the total sale of the national heritage, and for the last 18 years, eating up heritage, legitimizing the rights of feudal lords with total impoverishment of the population.
                      Quote: Winnie76
                      And how much is configured now. How much money is invested in infrastructure.

                      And how much and what was built? Don’t offer stadiums with billions of dollars to anyone who don’t need anyone.
                    2. Gardamir
                      Gardamir 9 March 2018 14: 28
                      +5
                      What was built under Yeltsin and Gorbachev?
                      Yes, you did say that happiness fell upon the country, as Naina Iosifovna said, which was supported by Vladimir Vladimirovich, these were holy years. democracy, freedom, foreign cars appeared in the country, though the yards were immediately driven into cars, they built the McDonald's symbol of democracy.
                      They pulled gas pipelines further to Europe ...
                2. Gardamir
                  Gardamir 9 March 2018 14: 14
                  +8
                  Do you miss the times of Misha and Bori?
                  What has changed? Yes, and the present, for which he rewards Misha and Borya and sets up monuments?
                3. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 9 March 2018 15: 06
                  +2
                  He misses Stalin, and does not hide this. As I.
            2. onix757
              onix757 9 March 2018 11: 42
              +8
              Quote: SPACE
              This can only be achieved by the systematic, constant, conscious work of all citizens and the government, without shocks, revolutions, and idiocy. By the way, the origin and availability of rich people is the first sign and condition for the beginning of the growth of prosperity and ordinary citizens (now I will hire builders, do you want to earn extra money?) They are, have been and will be, in any prosperous country in the world, it does not interfere with development, but only promotes.

              Schematically, your opus looks like this. (I borrowed a picture from the author from another branch, but it’s very out of place)
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                1. onix757
                  onix757 9 March 2018 12: 21
                  +12
                  Quote: SPACE
                  You and the author would not hang around in liberal garbage dumps and not carry any infection

                  And who do you think has to do with liberals in our politics?
                  1. SPACE
                    SPACE 9 March 2018 13: 03
                    0
                    Quote: onix757
                    And who do you think has to do with liberals in our politics?

                    Is it really so important for you? It’s more important for me that he does things for the good of the country and the state, but doesn’t speak about ownership. Better answer me wise guy, what do you propose in exchange for a new one? Or are you regular fool from a flock of strawberry shepherd Grudinin?
                    1. onix757
                      onix757 9 March 2018 13: 20
                      +14
                      Quote: SPACE
                      Is it really that important?

                      It is important, since in our country the first person in the country considers himself a liberal, and you, as a supporter, must also be a liberal.
                      It’s more important for me that he is doing something for the good of the country, but he’s not talking about ownership.

                      According to your conclusion, liberals rob the country for the good of the country. Not too much "happiness" for the country?)
                      Better answer me wise guy, what do you propose in exchange for a new one?

                      In return for what or to whom?
                      Or are you another fool from a flock of strawberry shepherd Grudinin?

                      And you, then, from a flock of offshore "orphans" sitting on natural rents and telling tales of a beautiful future for 18 years?
                      1. SPACE
                        SPACE 9 March 2018 13: 48
                        0
                        Quote: onix757
                        In return for what or to whom?

                        You posted a picture, well, do it, or do you describe your vision of the correct structure of the world?
                        Quote: onix757
                        According to your conclusion, liberals rob the country for the good of the country. Not too much "happiness" for the country?)

                        I note these are your conclusions. More specifically, what, where, when and how much did someone rob?
                        Quote: onix757
                        telling tales of a wonderful future over 18 years?

                        You 18 years ago did not receive a salary or a pension of half a year? Then it can be assumed that your situation over the 18 years has really worsened, like many liberals and liberals.
                      2. Tatanka Yotanka
                        Tatanka Yotanka 9 March 2018 17: 02
                        +8
                        Quote: onix757
                        since in our country the first person in the country considers himself a liberal, and you, as a supporter, must also be a liberal.

                        Not drunk, sober said so
                        May his word be holy!
                        After all, he admitted that he was a liberal,
                        And that means all-liberals fellow
                2. Gardamir
                  Gardamir 9 March 2018 14: 29
                  +10
                  liberal garbage dumps
                  how about the Kremlin and the government are intolerant however ...
          4. freddyk
            freddyk 10 March 2018 01: 52
            +5
            Gardamir, completely agree. The economy has been consciously reorganized from industrial to raw materials. Chubais said why build something, if you can buy in the West. And here they blame us for not working for the country. So the country does not need us. Where are all these thousands of factories in which to work for the country? So we survive alone, each for himself, who as best he can.

            Well, people are to blame! Or maybe those who created such an economy?

        2. New Year day
          New Year day 9 March 2018 23: 35
          +6
          Quote: SPACE
          and work, work hard and create something, create what people need.

          Are you talking about 25 million jobs created by Putin? if you believe him. then the unemployed are gone.
          And if you listen to Deputy Prime Minister O. Golodets: "The poverty that exists and is fixed in the country is the poverty of the working population. This is a unique phenomenon in the social sphere - the working poor."
          Therefore, as they pay, they work. This is recognized by the government:
          “Last year, we ended the year with an average salary of 36 thousand 703 rubles, this is the average figure in the economy. But I draw attention to the fact that 4 million 900 thousand people work at the minimum wage level. What labor productivity can we talk about if a person gets such money in a month of work?"-O. Golodets."
          Remember how in the USSR? They pretended to pay us wages, we pretended to work. The result of this consensus is known.
      3. flicker
        flicker 9 March 2018 14: 42
        +2
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        I already told you that they will print their own greens without any problems. And the whole world, including Russia, will pay for this by selling resources for their greenery. hi

        And before that they that "greens" were missing? There is such an expression: pour money into the problem. True, this does not always solve the problem. She doesn’t solve anything by herself, she can motivate - yes, but she doesn’t. Now, regarding the ability of "greens" to motivate - when the problem is poured with greens, they prefer to just take the greens, and complicate the problem with other problems, they say, you need more greens.
        According to the situation in the world (dominance is weakening, along with it the role of the dollar), the US will not catch up with us. All. The time when they reigned supremely irrevocably passed. Soon this will be understood by their allies, including in the BV.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 9 March 2018 15: 09
          +8
          Blessed is he who believes.
          1. flicker
            flicker 9 March 2018 15: 30
            +1
            Blessed is he who believes.
            Yes, there is no need to believe, everything is obvious. This is obvious to Trump, to the US financial elite, to their allies. They don’t believe in obvious things.
    2. Anti-Corr.
      Anti-Corr. 9 March 2018 07: 43
      +20
      Quote: aszzz888
      So do not be “upset”, but shoot. They put the mericatosia in the back barnyard, where she had a place for a long time

      : It is a pity that they do not know about it and continue to spend 17% of GDP on healthcare, while we are 3,5, while Georgia and Handuras each 9%. Agree, there is a reason for throwing bonnets into the air! wink
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 9 March 2018 08: 19
        +6
        Anti-Corr. Today, 07: 43: It is a pity that they do not know about it and continue to spend 17% of GDP on healthcare, while we are 3,5, while Georgia and Handuras are 9% each. Agree, there is a reason for throwing bonnets into the air! wink

        And you do not want to be treated in meritosia for these 17%?! ??? You’ll remain without underwear, and you will have until the last days. Why are they then herds rod for operations in Russia?! ???? Yes, because quality and CHEAPER !!!!!! hi
        1. Anti-Corr.
          Anti-Corr. 9 March 2018 08: 48
          +16
          Quote: aszzz888
          And you do not want to be treated in meritosia for these 17%?! ??? You’ll stay without underwear

          I want with us, but for 17%
          Quote: aszzz888
          Why are they then herds rod for operations in Russia?! ???? Yes, because quality and CHEAPER !!!!!!

          And I thought why I was carrying my mother on an MRI only at the end of April, and this is due to the fact that all the queues were filled with mattresses in our clinics. belay Well, yes, for each section of the spine it’s 3,5-4 rubles for them, and in the amount of 12tyrs they’ll pay this garbage, and more expensively! I forgot what they have a different currency, and their mother-in-law has 200 bucks in total. Therefore, she does not throw bonnets into the air, and she curses more and more Putin. I forbid her of course, so she curses secretly, and if she drinks a scooter, then she screams at a scream. sad
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 9 March 2018 08: 57
            +4
            Anti-Corr. Today, 08: 48A, I was thinking why I was carrying my mother on an MRI only at the end of April, and this is due to the fact that all the queues were filled in with mattresses our clinics.

            The "mattresses" will not go to your outpatient clinics, and do not do the worst advertisement at these outpatient clinics. And in the meritikosii - these are 3,5-4 rubles, and in the sum of 12tyrs, multiply by several times. as they say, feel the difference. In Singapore, such operations cost 120-250 thousand bucks, depending on complexity. I think it’s not correct to compare prices with us and somewhere.
            PS Drop in PM where you live. I'll see if there is an opportunity to help you. I’ll be in touch for 3 hours.
        2. SK70
          SK70 9 March 2018 10: 27
          +6
          Quote: aszzz888
          And you do not want to be treated in meritosia for these 17%?! ??? You’ll remain without underwear, and you will have until the last days. Why are they then herds rod for operations in Russia?! ???? Yes, because quality and CHEAPER !!!!!!

          Have you been treated?
          A photo or video of the herd is possible.
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 9 March 2018 12: 46
            +1
            SK70 Today, 10: 27A have you been treated? A photo or video of the herd is possible.

            Not smart point from the word at all.
            1. SK70
              SK70 9 March 2018 17: 45
              +4
              Quote: aszzz888
              SK70 Today, 10: 27A have you been treated? A photo or video of the herd is possible.

              Not smart point from the word at all.

              So your knowledge of the problem at the level of "yesterday said Solovyov." laughing
        3. New Year day
          New Year day 9 March 2018 23: 38
          +3
          Quote: aszzz888
          Why are they then herds rod for operations in Russia?! ????

          are you joking are herds of foreigners going to be treated in Ryazan, Ivanovo or Kurgan? But in Moscow herds of foreigners were not noticed, but there are a lot of compatriots from the periphery.
          You in Reutov or Pushkino wrap up for treatment, only with your medications.
      2. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 08: 36
        +8
        Quote: Anti-Corr.
        17% of GDP, while we are 3,5, while Georgia and Handuras are 9% each

        About nothing (c).
        You can count in anything, and even in parrots.
        But your calculation does not give an idea of ​​the development of this very “storage”. From the word "in general".
        Keep on having fun yes
    3. faiver
      faiver 9 March 2018 08: 16
      +9
      They put the mericatosia in the backyard
      - yeah, they only impose sanctions against us and not vice versa
      so for starters grow
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 9 March 2018 08: 24
        +3
        faiver Today, 08:16 ... so for starters grow a "thrust"

        It is not worth worrying - WE GROWED, and you will remain, we will share it with pleasure. bully
        1. faiver
          faiver 9 March 2018 08: 41
          +6
          Well, what you grew up is apparently suitable only for your own use. laughing
          1. Anti-Corr.
            Anti-Corr. 9 March 2018 08: 55
            +6
            Quote: faiver
            Well, what you grew up is apparently suitable only for your own use.

            Look, they shaw under a carbon copy? belay
            SRC P-15 Today, 08:51 | “Give me the money, otherwise the Russians will catch us!” The Pentagon predicts the superiority of the Russian army in Europe
            "Give me the money, otherwise the Russians will catch us!"
            Nobody was going to catch you! The Russians turned around and took a different path: in response to your missile defense, they created hypersonic weapons. And now you can put your missile defense yourself you know where. And if it does not fit, then Europe with South Korea and Japan will help you!
            Complaint of SRTs P-15

            constantly advise to shove something somewhere, byad, when only lighthouse glimpses remain of consciousness wassat
            1. AUL
              AUL 9 March 2018 22: 14
              +1
              So they work with one manual, on a daily training session!
  5. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 9 March 2018 07: 21
    +7
    with an extremely serious assessment of this document by the American Pentagon
    Yes, they are glad to try, as they say. Putin gave them such a fat trump card and with him they have every chance to raise the military budget (to add work and income to tycoons and rank-and-file collectors of the Texas and Alabam regions. There is nothing fun, give budget figures in comparison, do not you give, because interest is not in your favor, Mr. Selivanov.
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            1. SK70
              SK70 9 March 2018 11: 31
              +5
              Quote: MIKHAN
              Well then everything is clear .. ha ha ha .. You have nothing to do on this site ..!

              Are you implying that there are only drunks on this site?
              Quote: MIKHAN
              In short, this is the second Afghan ... I correctly guessed your thoughts ..?

              Alas, no.
              Although the loss of aviation for the first year is greater than in Afghanistan for the first year.
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                      1. AUL
                        AUL 9 March 2018 22: 48
                        +5
                        SK70 , discussing with Mian is like arguing with a village fool about Titian's early work. Unproductive! Hehehehe (C).
                        Sorry, could not resist, went to the person ...
        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir 9 March 2018 11: 36
          +9
          You have mourning in the west
          Well, you didn’t recognize the dead Russian military, so rather, it’s you in the west.
  7. Senior manager
    Senior manager 9 March 2018 08: 01
    +7
    Quote: Anti-Corr.
    It is a pity that they do not know about it and continue to spend 17% of GDP on healthcare, while we are 3,5, while Georgia and Handuras are 9% each. Agree, there is a reason for throwing bonnets into the air! wink

    It is a pity that they do not need to build ports in the Baltic Sea, TPPs in Kaliningrad, confront sanctions, impose their sanctions (these are also losses), invest in Crimea, conduct electricity to Crimea, and build a bridge there. It is unfortunate that you somehow did not bother to listen to the President. The trend is unfolding towards social programs. IMHO.
    1. faiver
      faiver 9 March 2018 08: 18
      +13
      The trend is turning towards social
      - I'm afraid the end of the trend reversal we will not catch ...
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 9 March 2018 08: 39
        +4
        faiver Today, 08:18 ↑
        The trend is unfolding towards social; I'm afraid the end of the trend reversal we will not catch...

        Why do you need it? You have one thing - liberal nagging in everything.
        1. faiver
          faiver 9 March 2018 11: 11
          +6
          Well, yes, does it really poke eyes?
          I don’t whine, but I don’t see any reason to scream
    2. aszzz888
      aszzz888 9 March 2018 08: 35
      +3
      Senior Prophet Today, 08:01 It is unfortunate that you somehow did not bother to listen to the President.

      These do not look. And if they look, they will all the same be charmed.
    3. Anti-Corr.
      Anti-Corr. 9 March 2018 11: 32
      +9
      Quote: St. Propulsion
      The trend is unfolding towards social programs. IMHO.

      Kamrad! hi drinks No trends are unfolding anywhere. If you look at a message, for example, 2003., you are unlikely to find 10 differences. The second, the message is pre-election PR, since the budget is made up for 3 years, open and see what will happen to the social network, in short, nothing good, stagnation. And about the nuclear bomb, I don’t even want to venture.
      Quote: St. Propulsion
      It is a pity that they do not need to build ....
      Are you sure that they are building less, maybe they are stealing less? For those "fat" trillions, it was possible to rebuild half a country again.
      Quote: St. Propulsion
      It is unfortunate that you somehow did not bother to listen to the President.

      I can’t see this face so often as frisky, my whole body resists, and when I get drunk I’m a beast wassat , and listen, and even more so watch, there is nobody and nothing. hi
    4. New Year day
      New Year day 9 March 2018 23: 43
      +3
      Quote: St. Propulsion
      The trend is unfolding towards social programs.

      another talking room. Read his speech before the FS in the 12th year. Now, almost the same thing. The main thing to say
  8. Bouncer
    Bouncer 9 March 2018 08: 18
    +23
    Does anyone say that there?
    In modern times, words mean little. And no matter whose.
    In a good way, you have to wait for the new weapons to be put into service.
    Indeed, it’s time to pay more attention to the development of the economy and improving the welfare of citizens, rather than saber rattling
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2018 08: 35
      +4
      Quote: Bouncer
      Indeed, it’s time to pay more attention to the development of the economy and improving the welfare of citizens, rather than saber rattling

      In Russia, it doesn’t interfere with one another .. Everything should go in parallel! This is the main formula for the survival of Russia in this evil world ..
      In the late 80s, the beginning of the 90s they decided (not we, the people) to disarm .... Well, everyone knows the result! angry
      1. Bouncer
        Bouncer 9 March 2018 08: 46
        +22
        Everything should go in parallel!

        Agree
        Only for some reason it is not particularly parallel. Always warped
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2018 08: 50
          +2
          Quote: Bouncer
          Everything should go in parallel!

          Agree
          Only for some reason it is not particularly parallel. Always warped

          That's for sure, the Russians have this, from one extreme to another ... But then we all get even! soldier
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 9 March 2018 23: 47
        +3
        Quote: MIKHAN
        In Russia, it doesn’t interfere with one another .. Everything should go in parallel!

        something does not work in parallel.
        Does our health care comply with Caliber?
        The struggle for the "effectiveness" of health care has led:
        - From 2000 to 2015, there were almost half as many hospitals in Russia: there were 10,7 thousand, and there were 5,4 thousand, this is the level of the Soviet Union in 1932,
        - the number of hospital beds decreased from 1,67 million to 1,22 million.
        - the number of ambulance stations decreased from 3276 to 2561 (a decrease of 22%).
        Medical staff: if in 2012, according to Rosstat, 703 thousand doctors of all profiles worked in Russia, then in the past, 588,3 thousand remained. In Moscow alone, as part of the reform, 28 medical facilities, 10 thousand beds and 10 thousand health workers were reduced.
        Whereas in 2000 each outpatient clinic accepted an average of 166 people per shift, in 2015 there were already 208 people.
        A sharp increase in mortality at home: in 2015 by 5,5% in Russia as a whole, by 72% in Moscow, 75% in the Volgograd region, 153% in the Leningrad region and 161% in the Novgorod region
        That's all your parallelism!
        Hope you miss medicine? I doubt it.
        The other day they brought a woman with cardiac arrest. Since the cardiopulmonary resuscitation teams on the ambulance were eliminated, the first medical aid was provided by the paramedic team. They tried so hard that the woman had their trachea broken (unsuccessful attempts to intubate the trachea).
        After 5 days, a 62-year-old woman died of mediastinitis, in the section - 5x1.5 cm tracheal rupture. Here and “optimization” for a specific person. Died of medical care
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 March 2018 08: 34
    +7
    Greenwood
    ... devote the lion's share of time only to weapons
    Why so frankly lie to those who really listened to the president. "Truthfulness", "impartiality" in all its glory. He threw a liberal zalepuha and with a sense of accomplishment left. One must also be able to lie, and liberal supporters cannot even do this.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 9 March 2018 08: 59
      +11
      This time, Putin spoke for 1 hour 57 minutes, while he devoted almost 45 minutes to equipping the Armed Forces with the latest weapons.

      Formally, in percentage terms, “less” than “half the speech”, but actually (the “lion’s part”) .... it’s true that there weren’t any “cartoons” about how he was going to “increase the GDP by 1,5 times "(25 million high-tech jobs are" in the past "built"), "reform" "poverty", about how we will soon enter the "club" with a lifespan of 80 years (we must justify the upcoming retirement age increase already started), about how again I was going to "optimize" healthcare and education (the previous "optimization turned out to be" not enough "), about how" new technologies "fill us with a" mustache "(as I understand it, this means wiring the Internet to every village, grandma will be delighted), about how some "big cities" should become the "foundations for the development" of something there and so on ... well, I didn’t show us cartoons about it, but I was waiting, waiting. ...

      http://www.interfax.ru/russia/601999
  10. groks
    groks 9 March 2018 08: 54
    +13
    The author bears, as well as Putin.
    Are the liberal media gnawing at our liberal officials no less liberal? Nobody filed a lawsuit against them? Why so? But who then blamed for the lack of love for Putin, if you disperse these?
    Absolutely surprising is the fact of this speech. It seems that nothing portended? Can this be ordered by the western military-industrial complex? Something else is not visible.
    Technically, all of this cartoony lacking analogs is somewhat doubtful. One BB, maneuvering in hypersound, instead of 10 heads, with a hundred false targets and other pleasures of overcoming missile defense. Which, by the way, also fall on the USA in hypersound (they practically fly from orbit) and can maneuver (some, anyway). So maybe this all means in translation - we need to remove all Voivode from duty, and there is nothing to replace them with, so we’ll try to scare partners with such a thing, maybe they will.
    About KR with a nuclear engine in general in vain. Not that this is completely nonsense, the design that is simply accessible by the current development of technology only draws on some ersatz.
    1. ML-334
      ML-334 9 March 2018 09: 14
      +5
      In my opinion it blew you and not one.
      1. groks
        groks 9 March 2018 09: 18
        +12
        Any constructive objections? No? Just to jump?
        1. ML-334
          ML-334 9 March 2018 09: 49
          +4
          If this is not in the circle of my understanding, then this is not there? Like that gopher, which you can’t see.
          1. groks
            groks 9 March 2018 10: 50
            +10
            What is this? Flickered here already alone with torsion fields.
            There is a wonderful book by A. I. Shmygin "SOI through the eyes of the Soviet colonel." I highly advise - it is quite popularly told what and why. And why it is not necessary, as in these cartoons.
            1. ML-334
              ML-334 9 March 2018 10: 59
              +4
              You are well-read, everyone knows, a simple question is what is ball lightning?
              1. groks
                groks 9 March 2018 11: 56
                +6
                And about her in what cartoon was?
                1. ML-334
                  ML-334 9 March 2018 12: 36
                  0
                  In this answer, everything is said, such as himself, but how everything exalted began. U Shmygin A.I. in his "wonderful" book there is nothing about the trajectory of "ball lightning"?
                  1. groks
                    groks 9 March 2018 12: 57
                    +3
                    U Shmygin A.I. in his "wonderful" book there is nothing about the trajectory of "ball lightning"?

                    No! I wouldn’t read such crap.
                    1. ML-334
                      ML-334 9 March 2018 13: 41
                      0
                      A little more and you would be the first person to learn more about this “horseradish” than all the scientists who have dedicated their lives to this topic. But apparently, it’s not fate.
  11. Anyone
    Anyone 9 March 2018 09: 27
    +4
    The author, and with what fright did you record InosMI (inosmi.ru) in some "liberal media"? For reference: InoSMI is a project of the RIA Novosti agency, and the support of InoSMI is provided by the Federal Press and Information Agency (Rospechat). Further: News.Mail.ru is actually a primitive news collector, not a “liberal media”. In your article no liberal media are cited at all and no links are made to articles posted on liberal media))
    1. yuriyselivanov
      9 March 2018 09: 55
      +2
      Do not be lazy to look through Google. There is everything. And as for me, so they are all one smeared with one world.
      1. Anyone
        Anyone 9 March 2018 10: 41
        +6
        Quote: yuriyselivanov
        Do not be lazy to look through Google. Everything is there.

        "You need to read newspapers" © The manager of the "Diamond Hand".
        Z.Y. I don’t like shortcuts at all. And the label "liberal media" in particular.
  12. zyzx
    zyzx 9 March 2018 09: 49
    +8
    Komrad Selivanov. It’s like flying to the moon, we don’t have to prove that they were not there, but they that were. So here, we must prove that we have it, but for now only cartoons.
    1. Winnie76
      Winnie76 9 March 2018 12: 19
      +1
      Quote: zyzx
      It’s like flying to the moon, we don’t have to prove that they were not there, but they that were. So here, we must prove that we have it, but for now only cartoons.

      They claim to be the world leader in the exploration of the moon, so they should. We do not claim any superiority - but everyone can check. If anyone has an extra aircraft carrier or extra Florida.
      1. zyzx
        zyzx 9 March 2018 14: 30
        +3
        Quote: Winnie76
        They claim to be the world leader in the exploration of the moon, so they should. We do not claim any superiority - but everyone can check. If anyone has an extra aircraft carrier or extra Florida.

        If ours, irremovable about this, rattled for an hour, then they should.
  13. Operator
    Operator 9 March 2018 10: 24
    +7
    Why is there a glamorous “Space Policy Institute” - at our VO, as if on command, all sorts of referents like bongo voted: “It cannot be, because the silver-footed can’t do anything better than God's chosen ones.”

    Plus, the nidi balabol, registered at VO exactly the beginning of the presidential election in Russia.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2018 10: 50
      +1
      Quote: Operator
      Why is there a glamorous “Space Policy Institute” - at our VO, as if on command, all sorts of referents like bongo voted: “It cannot be, because the silver-footed can’t do anything better than God's chosen ones.”

      Taki yeah hehe
      Quote: Operator
      Plus, the nidi balabol, registered at VO exactly the beginning of the presidential election in Russia.

      Oh, how many of them got divorced .... I even lost my helmet (they shoot from all sides)))))
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  15. turbris
    turbris 9 March 2018 11: 04
    +4
    I immediately warned the “all-scribblers” that one should not try to discredit the president’s words; no, they didn’t obey, started theirs again, found “experts” convenient for them and began their nagging. The president is not the person who issues fakes, and you should have seen this. He said that in response to the US withdrawing from the treaty from missile defense and the deployment of missile defense at our borders there will be a non-standard answer, and now the answer is presented. And the reaction of the foreign press speaks of a serious attitude to the arguments presented, but how else? To live with wolves howl like a wolf, otherwise they will devour it. As for the problems of the economy and the standard of living, everything was said in the message and there is no need to distort what was said in passing - it was said very clearly about what lies ahead and how we will achieve this. And pay attention, in spite of the election company, no one promised miracles, but an increase in the standard of living is envisaged.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2018 11: 26
      +2
      Quote: turbris
      I immediately warned the “all-propagandists” that one should not try to discredit the president’s words; no, they didn’t obey, started their own again, found “experts” convenient for them and started their nagging. The president is not the person who issues fakes, and you should have seen this. He said that in response to the US withdrawing from the ABM Treaty and deploying

      Now the crowd will start kicking you ... I'll cover! angry
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 9 March 2018 11: 39
        +8
        [quote.I will cover!] [/ quote] What? The helmet flew away! soldier
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 9 March 2018 11: 49
          +6
          Than? The helmet flew away!

          "Caps". "Caps" remained .... wink
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                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 9 March 2018 15: 16
                    +6
                    Mikhan, have you already fulfilled all your promises according to Psaki and Vasilyeva? wink wink
                    1. Vitaly Anisimov
                      Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2018 16: 19
                      +1
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Mikhan, have you already fulfilled all your promises according to Psaki and Vasilyeva? wink wink

                      Fulfilled! And some owe me here .. hi
  16. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 9 March 2018 11: 49
    +3
    I would like to remind all critics and all-round proponents that they are so “cool peppers” because they abuse the anonymity of tyrnet, forgetting that it is conditional on special services that once created it themselves! Already in previous komenty stated-it is still not "buns" from d. Vova. Bad is the player who does not keep a pair of trump cards in reserve, but throws them off from the very beginning! D.Vova has repeatedly proved in practice that still that shot-ear with such should always be kept watch! Moreover, all his statements are quite consistent. Said done! I have never offered it, you are still there! If often his statements slow down and sabotage, it is only because our Russian government, oh, is not homogeneous. But precisely because I do not want to start the 37th GDP, they are so greyhounds! I think everyone understands this.
  17. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 9 March 2018 11: 55
    +4
    Quote: Gardamir
    your chosen one!
    It seems like threatening, no? I think for some, the VO rules do not apply.


    Well, if you remember 37, then you are not afraid of anyone? Well, who are you, dear, scares!
  18. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 9 March 2018 13: 38
    +1
    Here, the Wehrmacht chief of staff on June 25, the 41st year, doubted: “Some information was received about a new type of Russian heavy tank: weight - 52 tons, frontal armor - 37 cm (?), side armor - 8 cm. Armament - 152 mm gun and three machine guns. The crew is five people. Speed ​​- 30 km / h. The range is 100 km. Penetration - 50 mm, anti-tank gun penetrates armor only under the gun turret. The 88-mm anti-aircraft gun, apparently, also pierces the side armor (it is still unknown). Information was received about the appearance of another new tank armed with a 75 mm cannon and three machine guns. ”
    ------
    Is it they, these tanks - or maybe it's all Russian propaganda?
  19. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 9 March 2018 13: 40
    0
    so I did not understand these supposedly scientists - what are they talking about: a nuclear engine or a thermonuclear reactor, which is small?
    PS - Shmuker, Moses and other cursors are advised to be careful with circumcision!
  20. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 9 March 2018 13: 43
    +2
    Nuclear space engine will be ready for flight tests in 2018
    aftershock.news/?q=node/450321&full
    “It was previously reported that the installation will be constructed as follows: the space reactor does not heat the jet ejected from it, but generates electricity. Hot gas from the reactor spins the turbine, the turbine spins the electric generator and compressor, which provides circulation of the working fluid in a closed loop. It generates electricity for a plasma engine with a specific thrust of 20 times higher than that of chemical analogues.The new nuclear power unit operates in a closed cycle, so the developers say that radioactive substances will not fall into the surrounding space.The mass and dimensions of the basic elements of a nuclear power plant should provide them placement in the space warheads of the existing Russian Proton and Angara launch vehicles. "
    Apparently it is. Rosatom coped.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 9 March 2018 13: 59
      +4
      And if it "falls" on take-off or something else? Choi, in our country often, everything "falls" ..... how in this case will be with radioactive contamination?
  21. Radikal
    Radikal 9 March 2018 14: 11
    +8
    And why was the Pentagon so serious - told about its "sorrows"? winked At the same time, the military department of mattresses noted that all these "news" were not news for him! And the author of the article, before publishing election campaigns here, at least read Colonel General Ivashov’s article in the latest issue of the Military Industrial Courier, where he gives an objective assessment of this “momentous” event! sad In addition, there are a number of articles in this issue, where, in contrast to this, they give a sober assessment of the state of our defense industry and other aspects of our defense policy. By the way, it is strange that VO did not pay attention to these articles in the military-industrial complex. hi
  22. onix757
    onix757 9 March 2018 14: 25
    +13
    SPACE,
    You posted a picture, well, do it, or do you describe your vision of the correct structure of the world?

    And where does the world? The device of the state is much closer to me. If in one sentence, it can be described as power for people and not people for power.
    I note these are your conclusions. More specifically, what, where, when and how much did someone rob?

    This conclusion is a summary of your opus.
    Based on the fact that you are delighted with what is being done in the country, then you yourself fully approve the export of capital to the offshore of hundreds of billions of dollars, investment of billions of dollars. to US debt bonds at a ridiculous interest, the transfer by the ministries of their functions for outsourcing for a billion, "misuse" (read theft) of budget funds, and the unpunished enrichment of government and oligarchs close to power.
    You 18 years ago did not receive a salary or pension for half a year?

    Of course I did. Up to 98 with delays. With the advent of the Maslyukov government in 98, regularly. But I’m not talking about salary per se, but how much power is taken from 1 ruble of the salary of an ordinary person, and how many are of those close to power. The legislation was amended so that oligarchs in general may not pay tax in the Russian Federation, but for the people they’ll come up with a mushroom tax.
    Then it can be assumed that your situation in 18 years has really worsened, like many liberals and liberals.

    40 million. The poor and poor in the Russian Federation liberalists? Oh yes, what am I ... didn’t fit into the market.
  23. glenffidik
    glenffidik 9 March 2018 14: 37
    +8
    with the same success, GDP could declare the creation of the Death Star and a blaster .... is there at least a photo of this rocket? test video? what is the exhaust of this rocket? what will happen in case of an accident? for me, it's just a show off, like a finger in a pocket that is given out as a gun
  24. turbris
    turbris 9 March 2018 15: 10
    +1
    Quote: glenffidik
    for me, it's just a show off, like a finger in a pocket that is given out as a gun

    It’s you who can put a show-off in front of the others on your couch and put a finger in your pocket - this is a different level and show-offs do not go through, therefore they say by the facts that there is.
  25. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 9 March 2018 15: 27
    +1
    Space Policy Institute Ivan Moiseev.

    Wahme, the almighty, more than that?
    Or is the cosmos broadcasting its policy to us, or are Amer’s earlings planting their will with your name?
    Well ... and if their face in .... at least in the snow at my doorstep ...
  26. Provocator
    Provocator 9 March 2018 16: 04
    +9
    A bold article! Especially considering the fact that no one actually criticized the military part of the message. Well, cartoons, slides .... Actually at the presentation they usually show the product. This product presentation would have been.
    Another thing is that in addition to the military part of the message, the rest was funny to listen to.
    Either retired pensioners were frozen, they are ready to immediately promise a fabulous increase in pensions. Where does Zin come from?
    Either the technological lag is a threat to Russia, or Russia is the country of the most advanced technologies and science ... You already decide * omnipotent *, otherwise I’ll develop schizophrenia.
    the president said a lot of right words about what needs to be done in the economy, society and social sphere of the country, but, unfortunately, said quite a bit how to actually achieve this.

    In general, there was more rhetoric in terms of “necessary” than in terms of “we will do this and that. - In addition, all this, with a few exceptions, Putin has said more than once. Or, he urged not to show bureaucratic zeal in health care reform, as a result of which in recent years departments and entire hospitals in small towns and villages have been reduced, and people often remained without any medical assistance at all. But this happened, including in pursuance of his May decrees.
    1. emwave
      emwave 10 March 2018 10: 21
      0
      Zina answers - money can be unexpectedly withdrawn from changes in energy prices. It’s pointless to blame GDP for the mad zeal of our reformers. So you can blame the teachers of pedagogical institutes and medical academies - who graduate then? There is a society and a system of relations in it - your desire to make the GDP responsible for all is in a sense ridiculous. This is how to blame Nicholas II for all the troubles of Russia. I can say about the reform of the Russian Academy of Sciences and raising salaries for scientists (which I know first hand) - Putin’s decree has contradictions, and so what? Probably through this you have to go.
      1. Provocator
        Provocator 13 March 2018 14: 30
        +1
        A typical approach. Good king, father and bad boyars.
        If he sees madness and does not stop .... it is worth considering whether it is profitable for him ...
        Probably you just need to pay the scientist 3 times more than the lieutenant of the police ..
        If you want a skating rink of inept, unprocessed decrees to pass through you, this is your personal business. Get rid of the country.
  27. chingachguc
    chingachguc 9 March 2018 17: 34
    +2
    I personally have one question in connection with these "nonsense": how is the situation with radiation contamination from a nuclear engine? And how is everyone experiencing this?
    1. emwave
      emwave 10 March 2018 10: 15
      0
      Something tells me that with infection everything is fine.
  28. SK70
    SK70 9 March 2018 17: 46
    +3
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    the further you send, the longer it will not return

    You flashed intellect !!! laughing
  29. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 9 March 2018 18: 10
    +3
    Quote: Anti-Corr.
    Quote: aszzz888
    And you do not want to be treated in meritosia for these 17%?! ??? You’ll stay without underwear

    I want with us, but for 17%
    Quote: aszzz888
    Why are they then herds rod for operations in Russia?! ???? Yes, because quality and CHEAPER !!!!!!

    And I thought why I was carrying my mother on an MRI only at the end of April, and this is due to the fact that all the queues were filled with mattresses in our clinics. belay Well, yes, for each section of the spine it’s 3,5-4 rubles for them, and in the amount of 12tyrs they’ll pay this garbage, and more expensively! I forgot what they have a different currency, and their mother-in-law has 200 bucks in total. Therefore, she does not throw bonnets into the air, and she curses more and more Putin. I forbid her of course, so she curses secretly, and if she drinks a scooter, then she screams at a scream. sad


    Well, pay for it if it cannot, you worry about it like that. Compared to the USA, such a procedure costs 600 bucks plus or minus depending on the state. But we still have the opportunity to do it for free, I know, I did it. You just have to wait a month. If you take care of this in advance, then there are no problems. And if you urgently need it, then there is nothing to be done, you always have to pay for urgency.
    1. sapporo1959
      sapporo1959 9 March 2018 20: 40
      +3
      ABOUT! 600 dollars. Of course it’s quite expensive, but a person does pay insurance for that, so that he would already have this procedure for 600 dollars for free? Or do I then not understand, unlike you?
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 20: 43
        +4
        Quote: sapporo1959
        Or I’m not up to it ...

        You are not up to it.
        A person does not pay insurance, he buys it.
        More often it is bought by the employer.
        Not every "there" has such insurance.
        Not all services are covered by insurance.
        Insurance, by the way, is also different.
        That's about as yes
        1. sapporo1959
          sapporo1959 9 March 2018 21: 56
          +4
          Straight horror! But why do they live so long then if they are treated so hard?
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 22: 20
            +5
            Quote: sapporo1959
            But what they live for so long then

            Out of habit, probably request
            1. sapporo1959
              sapporo1959 9 March 2018 22: 27
              +4
              Well, we would have their habits. And they live for a long time and we are threatened that even the helmets are falling off, and even they have planted us with their money like addicts .. Honest word!
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 22: 33
                +4
                Quote: sapporo1959
                they donated us for their money

                The whole world. It will be more accurate.
                Quote: sapporo1959
                Honestly horror!

                Yes laaaaaah ...
  30. emwave
    emwave 10 March 2018 10: 13
    0
    Yes, the "partners" have to attract any experts anyway - real experts and they review the video of the speech of the President of the Russian Federation and think - what really do the Russians have? Already broke their heads!
    Remember, Putin is telling the truth.
    1. sapporo1959
      sapporo1959 10 March 2018 12: 29
      +1
      Under the Union, I remember the same experts who racked their brains on what we have there, and then they drove the MacDonald to our borders and for some reason I began to live simply in Russia ..
  31. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 10 March 2018 22: 56
    +1
    Quote: sapporo1959
    Straight horror! But why do they live so long then if they are treated so hard?


    They have nowhere to go, they will die, there will be no one to pay for loans, the children will remain on the street
  32. tv70
    tv70 11 March 2018 11: 05
    +1
    Personally, the liberals did not convince me of anything, however, Putin’s words too. I heard too many words that turned out to be trifles.
  33. noodles
    noodles 11 March 2018 14: 53
    +1
    I must say right away that I am not commenting on commentators! The one of them, softly say in the subject and something
    can say based on the level of his professional literacy, he says! I think that we need to express our opinion about the problems raised by the author in the article, and not about everything that hurts my heart! The author correctly raised the question of the so-called EXPERT experts who actually bred in our vast quantity - and actually PROFESSIONAL BREAKERS! It is useful and interesting to read the author who himself is in this DOCA issue - and not read the ORDERED ORDERED AND PAID BIRTHDAY! Frankly, I don’t already know who to BELIEVE -
    that you won’t open - from HEADERS alone you can move in phase - but with respect to the content or Fake or slander! Both in the Duma and in the Federation Council there are special Committees that they don’t see what is going on in the media? What can’t be supplemented by the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation? Involuntarily you think that the authorities are advantageous to REDUCE THE PEOPLE!
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 12 March 2018 10: 27
      -1
      "No one can be trusted!
      I can..."
      We have a free country, they don’t shut their mouths at the state level, unlike the “Western world”.
  34. Mestny
    Mestny 12 March 2018 10: 25
    -1
    Quote: Stas157
    Presidential speech is more like a message to the West, rather than appeal to the suffering people, in their aspirations and needs. By the way, I did not see any economic program there. And the cartoons are really cool!

    What is the rhetoric of a hundred years ago? Exactly the same expressions sounded from the left in 1917. Literally word for word. This is when they called to destroy everything to the ground, in the interests of the "suffering people" of course.
    The representative of the "left forces"?
  35. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 12 March 2018 11: 08
    +1
    And a German rocket expert, Robert Schmucker, called Putin’s statement implausible: “I can’t imagine that the Russians can create a small flying thermonuclear reactor,” he said. According to the expert, in the near future Russia is not able to develop a nuclear power cruise missile. ”

    Why is it necessary to create a small flying thermonuclear reactor? Only nuclear is enough. Such was developed 60 years ago for aircraft and krillat missiles.
    But this Shmuker or Shmeker also said that the DPRK’s ICBMs can be expected no earlier than 2020. He’s such an “expert”.
  36. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 13 March 2018 15: 20
    0
    Ivan Mikhailovich Moiseev <...> expert of the Cosmos Cluster of the Skolkovo Foundation
    I wonder who steers this cluster?