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The head of "Naftogaz": Ukraine has become a victim of the "vicious circle"

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In the difficult economic situation of Naftogaz of Ukraine, past politicians are guilty, who preferred to buy gas only from Russia, and the population itself, which consumed too much natural fuel, reports RIA News Statement by the head of the company, Andrey Kobolev.




Ukraine was a victim of the so-called vicious circle associated with the consumption of gas from Russia,
Kobolev said at the oil and gas conference.

According to him, this happened because of politicians "with a very populist kind, who enjoyed strong support from Russia."

They used two simple approaches. The first is that Ukraine produces super-cheap gas, but, as you know, it stopped producing gas from 1970, and that Ukraine should buy gas only in Russia,
noted the head of the company.

And as a result of this political position, we had gigantic inefficient consumption. Ukraine consumed six times more gas than any comparable European country per household per square meter,
he declared.

According to Kobolev, "the cost of gas for households was at a discount 95% of the market value, which was one of the reasons that so much gas was consumed."

We are still very far from European standards and we still need to reduce consumption,
concluded the head of Naftogaz.
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  1. Firework
    Firework 8 March 2018 08: 36
    +14
    there are modern technologies, biofuels, for example, if we approach wisely the solution of this complex issue, then our Ukrainian brothers will not be lost even without our gas
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 8 March 2018 08: 46
      +27
      Quote: Salute
      there are modern technologies, biofuels, for example, if we approach wisely the solution of this complex issue, then our Ukrainian brothers will not be lost even without our gas

      But "who doesn’t ride, that Muscovite" doesn’t belong to modern technologies? In my opinion it is quite possible to warm up! yes
      1. SOF
        SOF 8 March 2018 09: 25
        +14
        ... efficient heater from a renowned manufacturer UA2013 Maidan 2.0

        PS an additional function - when hanging on a special generator heating it is possible to generate electric energy ...
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 8 March 2018 10: 32
          +16
          , and that Ukraine should buy gas only in Russia,

          Ukraine has become a victim of its own stupidity, greed, stupidity and the desire for a freebie. tongue
          1. hrych
            hrych 8 March 2018 11: 39
            0
            The symbol of a vicious circle, like a snake biting its tail, but because there is a gas theme, and even in Nezalezhnaya, then of course the elephant who put the trunk to the anus is more suitable, there is an indecent picture, but we won’t print it wassat
          2. Lelek
            Lelek 8 March 2018 11: 40
            0
            Quote: vlad66
            Ukraine has become a victim of its own stupidity, greed, stupidity and the desire for a freebie.

            hi
            As Pushkov noted, now let the “Europeans” be tormented with a ruin freeloader, and we will smoke aside.
          3. Antares
            Antares 8 March 2018 12: 12
            0
            Quote: vlad66
            to a freebie

            Article 4 of the agreement
            The base price is $ 450.
            Contract-360, for the 1st quarter of 2009
            https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/articles/2009/01/22
            / 4462671 /
      2. Stanislas
        Stanislas 9 March 2018 09: 37
        +1
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        It’s quite possible to keep warm!
        Pea porridge for dinner promotes intense self-heating under the covers during a night's rest. Bioreactor itself: screw it to the end!
    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 8 March 2018 08: 46
      +16
      Ukraine fell victim to the vicious circle

      laughing laughing Come a freebie, put things in order .. heh heh
      It's time "brothers Slavs" to take up the mind and start working .. Europe and the United States you do not "milk"!
      You got Russia and our patience is already ending ..
      There is NO free money! And Gaza too ..!
      1. Alex-a832
        Alex-a832 8 March 2018 10: 11
        +5
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Ukraine fell victim to the vicious circle

        laughing laughing Come a freebie, put things in order .. heh heh
        It's time "brothers Slavs" to take up the mind and start working .. Europe and the United States you do not "milk"!
        You got Russia and our patience is already ending ..
        There is NO free money! And Gaza too ..!

        Here, here ... Ukraine has become a victim of its greed, stupidity and shamelessness.
        I would like to ask Svidomo: "So how, our" brothers ", your European and overseas" brothers "helped you ?!"
    3. sxfRipper
      sxfRipper 8 March 2018 08: 55
      +9
      there are modern technologies, biofuels for example
      Dumpling stole ??? laughing
    4. Sergey D_2
      Sergey D_2 8 March 2018 09: 01
      +8
      Only for this you need to have cows in the yard. 15 pieces.
    5. Finches
      Finches 8 March 2018 09: 17
      +22
      Naftogaz is not a successful business - it is just money from the air! The gas transportation system built in the Soviet Union, gas is produced in Russia, and Ukrainians, such as Kobelev and Co., simply cut money collecting for transit and robbing their jumping non-working! That's the whole scam! What is in the spirit of this unfinished - to produce nothing, but to have everything! Probably some kind of crazy Vyatrovich already counts on the calculator how much Russia owes for the "occupation" of the Ukrainian land by the Soviet pipeline! They are used to being covered by all sorts of Scandinavians, far from our reality, witty Europeans and masters of Ukraine from across the ocean! But this fairy tale will end sooner or later - Russia, as Ukraine has given statehood to a misunderstanding of a drunk in ... Yeltsin, will take it ....
    6. tchoni
      tchoni 8 March 2018 09: 59
      +13
      Alas, there are no such technologies. The gas obtained with their help is obtained 3-4 times more expensive than natural. Renewable energy sources begin to be economically viable, starting from the subtropics zone ... So, I would encourage the Skakly brothers to prepare for the 20 one-time rise in price of natural gas.
      You know, in London there’s a joke that it’s cheaper to go to Egypt for three winter months than to heat a house in London ... Now this joke will go to Kiev ... Only Kiev’s income to Egypt, there’sn’t been enough money ....
    7. Kent0001
      Kent0001 8 March 2018 10: 10
      0
      The main biofuel for them is dung. The rest is quite complicated. Given the craving of Ukrainians for freebies and unwillingness to splurge, biofuel is not an option at all.
    8. pjastolov
      pjastolov 8 March 2018 10: 13
      +2
      Quote: Salute
      there are modern technologies, biofuels for example

      So again Muscovites are to blame - they’re not very scared, so there’s not enough biomaterial
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 8 March 2018 12: 17
        0
        Quote: pjastolov
        So again Muscovites are to blame - they’re not very scared, so there’s not enough biomaterial

        In their ranks in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, dysentery is rampant. The material should be. lol
        1. pjastolov
          pjastolov 8 March 2018 15: 27
          +1
          Quote: Piramidon
          In their ranks in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, dysentery is rampant. The material should be.

          it means the assembly is poorly organized
    9. krops777
      krops777 8 March 2018 10: 18
      +1
      there are modern technologies, biofuels, for example, if we approach wisely the solution of this complex issue, then our Ukrainian brothers will not be lost even without our gas


      All this applies to something in a small private house, for example, but how much biofuel is needed for work, for example, a large enterprise or heating a city?
      And on the topic, yes, there isn’t any vicious circle, take and pay so no, you need even more so for a freebie, so get a sign.
  2. bouncyhunter
    bouncyhunter 8 March 2018 08: 37
    +17
    In the difficult economic situation of Naftogaz Ukrainy, past politicians who preferred to buy gas only from Russia, and the population itself, which consumed too much natural fuel, were to blame

    Well, poor fellows are miserable, hug and cry. But what did Kobolev not say a word, how much did they dig from the pipe?
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 8 March 2018 08: 44
      +9
      Pasha, in life they are, they only know one thing - Give! I do not want them to harm, but how much can you pull them ?! And in response to receive what they are doing now!
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 8 March 2018 08: 46
        +16
        In this regard, the skakuas remind me of the Poles: that, too, everyone around must and everyone offends them. yes
    2. 210ox
      210ox 8 March 2018 08: 48
      +8
      Pasha, good morning. They became the victims of an abortion, not a vicious circle.
      Quote: bouncyhunter
      In the difficult economic situation of Naftogaz Ukrainy, past politicians who preferred to buy gas only from Russia, and the population itself, which consumed too much natural fuel, were to blame

      Well, poor fellows are miserable, hug and cry. But what did Kobolev not say a word, how much did they dig from the pipe?
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 8 March 2018 08: 51
        +7
        Hi Dima! hi But don’t call them - the essence of the race will not change.
  3. AID.S
    AID.S 8 March 2018 08: 38
    +5
    Ukraine consumed six times more

    ["They just have someone eating too much"
  4. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 8 March 2018 08: 39
    +13
    You have become a love triangle and you will not have children. smile
  5. Observer2014
    Observer2014 8 March 2018 08: 39
    +15
    According to Kobolev, “the cost of gas for households was at a discount of 95% of the market value,
    Yes. There, gas until the end of 2014 was cheaper than in Russia.
    We are still very far from European standards and we still need to reduce consumption,
    To tears. good laughing
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 8 March 2018 08: 49
      +7
      Quote: Observer2014
      Yes. There, gas until the end of 2014 was cheaper than in Russia.

      A freebie always corrupts .. That's the result! Gazprom’s assets were about to be taken away ... GREED will bring them to sin ..
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 8 March 2018 09: 22
      +11
      Sergey, recently on TV they showed how they live in the west. In short, they save so much that they sleep dressed under a pile of blankets (exaggerated of course), the temperature in the house is such that unless vapor comes from the mouth.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 8 March 2018 09: 44
        +4
        sabakina Vyacheslav hi
        recently on TV they showed how they live in the west. In short, they save so much that they sleep dressed under a pile of blankets (exaggerated of course), the temperature in the house is such that unless vapor comes from the mouth.
        It happens to them too. They save it on everything. Now let them develop energy-saving technologies. A stove is a stove in the apartment. It's also a pleasure. By the way, in Ukraine, many people already cut out heating. You can’t afford to pay.
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 8 March 2018 11: 52
        +1
        Quote: sabakina
        the temperature in the house is such that unless steam comes from the mouth.

        hi
        Vyacheslav, this is at -5 gr. C. And suddenly, God will punish -30yu. And then what will happen to the "Europeans" and their islands? And yet, knowing that this can happen, they are building obstacles to our pipelines. From the "404" stupidity or something. fool
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 8 March 2018 11: 59
          +6
          Leo, they don’t know what to do at minus 15 C! Accustomed that the Gulf Stream heats them. But everything in this world is changing, even the poles. Attention, the video contains profanity.
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 March 2018 08: 41
    +9
    Again, someone is to blame! And so it’s all his life! If only for the ball, if only not to pay, if only they would give a lot and everything! Enough, it's time to harvest the brushwood yourself! bully
  7. Firework
    Firework 8 March 2018 08: 42
    +1
    Quote: Observer2014
    Yes. There, gas until the end of 2014 was cheaper than in Russia.

    because the president of Ukraine was Putin's friend Yanik
    1. Antares
      Antares 8 March 2018 12: 14
      +1
      Quote: Salute
      Quote: Observer2014
      Yes. There, gas until the end of 2014 was cheaper than in Russia.

      because the president of Ukraine was Putin's friend Yanik

      the price of gas for the population was one of the conditions for electoral support. In addition, the burden still went to the budget
  8. Sergey Fomenko
    Sergey Fomenko 8 March 2018 08: 43
    +8
    But there is much to be done, over in African countries, over efficient gas consumption per household per square meter. Forward to new achievements ... Fabulous dolbo .... b
  9. victorsh
    victorsh 8 March 2018 08: 45
    +15
    Dear, we are bastards, Russians! We sold gas to Ukraine almost for free. In 2000, when my last time was in Ivano-Frankivsk my nieces surprised. A two-story house was heated with gas (probably Slovak). I ask: Don’s not expensive? Answer: Copies.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 8 March 2018 08: 53
      +5
      victorsh Today, 08:45 I ask: Don is not expensive? Answer: Copies.

      This is their mentality. They ALWAYS someone SHOULD, but not them.
      1. agbykov
        agbykov 8 March 2018 09: 23
        +1
        This is the mentality of the average person, not only Ukrainian ...
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 8 March 2018 09: 34
          +5
          agbykov Today, 09:23 ↑
          This is the mentality of the average person, not only Ukrainian ...

          Let me disagree. To “average” all - somehow it will not be right. After all, you had (judging by the avatar you are Ukrainian) and not expensive gas, I wanted it even cheaper, but better for “free”. But you yourself understand for free what happens and where. I repeat, I do not wish you any harm, but what you do is impossible to endure. IT IS NECESSARY TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING.
    2. alexmach
      alexmach 8 March 2018 08: 59
      +9
      Well, partly this is really so. Retail gas prices were very affordable in Ukraine. And indeed in Europe they consume noticeably less. What this gentleman forgot to say is that consuming less gas requires, among other things, investments in energy conservation. A corny non-domestic level is home insulation and the installation of energy-efficient heating systems with high efficiency, and it costs money. A 2-storey house - yes, if they themselves built it may well be energy efficient.

      He also forgot to say that in the best of times, 2/3 of gas was consumed by industry. Which also did not differ much in energy efficiency, but nonetheless, it was not just basking in something but also producing something. Including something exported ...
      1. Rostovchanin
        Rostovchanin 8 March 2018 09: 07
        +5
        He is not very kholochny and does not know that in Europe winters are milder due to the Gulf Stream, therefore less gas is consumed per season, and here also Russian Siberia sends anticyclones wassat
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 8 March 2018 09: 38
          +1
          Well, it depends in which Europe, Europe is very different. Here we are not at all softer.
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 8 March 2018 20: 49
          0
          Supplement: The heating season here is 2 months longer than in Ukraine, colder in winter, gas more expensive. Do you know what class of energy efficiency of your home? I know ... well, approximately :). Any announcement of the sale or lease of real estate includes this information. In winter, people explore their homes with infrared cameras - looking for places of heat leakage from the house.
          1. Rostovchanin
            Rostovchanin 9 March 2018 15: 15
            0
            Those. want to say that if the heating season in Ukraine is from October 15 to April 15, then in the Baltic countries from September 15 to May 15? Do not make me laugh, this is the season of the Arctic Circle. I do not argue that the Baltic states are also Europe. But gas consumption is not even a hundredth of the whole of Europe, where the bulk of the population is concentrated in the southwestern part of Europe itself. By the way, I’m building this winter winter on the border with Estonia in the Ust-Luga region, SP-2, I want to tell you the climate from the south only the rivers “began” differ in humidity on February 1, before that even the soil in the flesh was without frozen crust, you can’t specify about the local climate hi
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 9 March 2018 23: 32
              0
              Those. want to say that if the heating season in Ukraine is from October 15 to April 15, then in the Baltic countries from September 15 to May 15?

              Yes, something like that. he didn’t exactly measure it, but it starts at the latest in October, in the sense at the beginning of October, and in May often the batteries are still hot.In addition, the heating season is a floating thing, depending on the average daily temperature in Ukraine, it does not start every year and ends on the indicated dates. Do you want to precisely measure this year when they will stop drowning and I will inform you?
              By the way, I’m building this winter winter on the border with Estonia in the Ust-Luga region, SP-2, I want to tell you the climate from the south only the rivers “began” differ in humidity on February 1, before that even the soil in the flesh was without a frozen crust, you can’t specify about the local climate hi

              And you would have moved 50-00 km from the sea into the continent and watched it there.
          2. Rostovchanin
            Rostovchanin 9 March 2018 15: 31
            0
            Alaverdi in addition, look at the isotherms of Denmark and Estonia, the average annual temperature differs by two orders of magnitude, although they are on the same parallel, so once again I want to focus your attention on such a phenomenon as the Gulf Stream, this is an artificial heater in Europe, for good this is the course of Soviet geography for the sixth grade hi
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 16: 17
              +5
              Quote: Rostovchanin
              ... average annual temperature varies two orders of magnitude...

              Chi-woooo ??? belay
              1. Rostovchanin
                Rostovchanin 9 March 2018 16: 22
                0
                I’d also attach a climate map to you but I can’t from the phone, or are you about. Greenland also belong to Europe? And so just by color scheme count http://www.kwetki.ru/exot/climatzones.htm
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 16: 37
                  +6
                  Quote: Rostovchanin
                  just count the colors

                  Dear, two orders of magnitude - this is hundreds of times.
                  Are you still sure that everything was written correctly there?
                  1. Rostovchanin
                    Rostovchanin 9 March 2018 16: 43
                    0
                    Of course, I am an ignoramus from the point of view of the hydrometeorological center, but if you refer to the proof I refer to, the color scheme differs by exactly two units. I just wanted to convey to my opponent that the climate in Europe is milder than in Ukraine, even in comparison with the Baltic states. Sorry to be weak in terms hi
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 16: 46
                      +6
                      Quote: Rostovchanin
                      if you refer to the proof to which I refer

                      belay
                      Quote: Rostovchanin
                      color gamut differs by exactly two units

                      I admit.
                      But the temperature there is no different
                      Quote: Rostovchanin
                      two orders of magnitude

                      hi
                    2. alexmach
                      alexmach 9 March 2018 23: 38
                      0
                      Sorry to be weak in terms

                      Well, and also began to poke me into school knowledge :)
            2. alexmach
              alexmach 9 March 2018 23: 37
              0
              Well, actually, where did I start? Is it because Europe is different?

              Yeah, is an artificial heater made in the sense of human hands or what? In what class was there "everything that was done by human hands does not belong to nature"? 2 or 3?

              I will tell you more - I once looked at one commune in Norway beyond the Arctic Circle - they also had an average annual temperature of ours.
            3. Senior manager
              Senior manager 9 March 2018 23: 40
              +1
              Quote: Rostovchanin
              Denmark and Estonia, the average annual temperature varies by two orders of magnitude

              Is it 100 times ???
    3. major147
      major147 8 March 2018 09: 58
      +4
      In the summer of the 13th I was with relatives in the Kirovohrad region. So they laughed at us (without malice) that they gas our penny. Now they have already moved to Russia.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 8 March 2018 10: 11
        +3
        major147 Today, 09: 58 So they laughed at us (without malice) that they gas our penny. Now they have already moved to Russia.

        ... and now, along the way, it’s no laughing matter with our gas tariffs ...
  10. Icarus
    Icarus 8 March 2018 08: 47
    +5
    Politicians in Ukraine morally prepare the population for expensive gas, without a "95% discount." They really want to soften the reaction of the people to the approaching fuel crisis. I hope that in the Donbas there will be order with gas and Gazprom will not do it like Alfabank, for example.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 8 March 2018 08: 53
      +7
      Quote: Icarus
      I hope ... Gazprom will not do it like Alfabank

      Confusing Miller with Friedman? wink
      Ahem ... it happens recourse
      1. novel66
        novel66 8 March 2018 10: 05
        +5
        kulman with whatman - how not to mix it up?
    2. Antares
      Antares 8 March 2018 12: 19
      +1
      Quote: Icarus
      Politicians in Ukraine morally prepare the population for expensive gas, without a "95% discount."

      stop, the population pays the import price + VAT + leverage from the hub for gas. This despite the fact that there is domestic gas for 1500 UAH - 8 thousand are injected to the population. Thus, Naftogaz was made unprofitable.
      We produce 20 billion cubic meters; we import 14. We pay for 20 the same price as from import, but at the same time domestic bills are three times cheaper. Profit
  11. bald
    bald 8 March 2018 08: 51
    +3
    --- "... We are still very far from European standards and we still need to reduce consumption" --- "The crisis is over and we won!" - And this is the main thing! If necessary - they’ll drown with their own shit - they’ll more than have this “good”.
  12. prior
    prior 8 March 2018 08: 54
    +2
    In real Ukraine, everyone is always to blame for everything, but not him. And such a perception of the world will end with the last Ukrainian.
    And if he pleaded guilty - a separatist, cotton wool or Russian.
  13. shinobi
    shinobi 8 March 2018 08: 57
    +1
    Something quickly their joy ended. And in the new year there will be no gas. EU will not give money, then it will not be at all. Weighty too.
  14. Romanenko
    Romanenko 8 March 2018 08: 59
    +3
    Quote: “Ukraine fell victim to the vicious circle”
    Ukraine became a victim of fascists and stupid "politicians" who are considering the country's development prospects exclusively through a hole in the ass of the American president
  15. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 8 March 2018 09: 05
    +8
    Powerful laughing It’s like shooting yourself in the foot, and then, having lost the ability to walk, blaming the ammunition developers for creating an overly powerful cartridge, cursing parents for their genetic predisposition to poor wound healing ... fool
  16. Hagalaz
    Hagalaz 8 March 2018 09: 06
    +5
    The vicious circle for them is just beginning. This is when the same gas, bypassing Ukraine, will come to them from the other side. Then they will become victims.
  17. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 8 March 2018 09: 07
    +10
    Reva: Ukrainians eat too much.
    Suprun: Ukrainians live too long.
    Kobolev: Ukrainians will consume too much gas.
    And Muscovites are to blame for all this ...
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 8 March 2018 09: 30
      +6
      And Muscovites are to blame for the fact that the Earth is spinning clockwise.
      1. novel66
        novel66 8 March 2018 10: 08
        +5
        because of this disgrace, the right bank of the Dnieper is steep! smacks of compensation, however! hi
      2. NKT
        NKT 8 March 2018 10: 21
        +1
        Well it spins counterclockwise wink
        1. dauria
          dauria 8 March 2018 12: 14
          0
          Well it spins counterclockwise


          And if you ask penguins from Antarctica? winked
          1. NKT
            NKT 8 March 2018 13: 02
            0
            I believe bears more! repeat
      3. fa2998
        fa2998 8 March 2018 10: 56
        0
        Damn, I’ve been thinking counterclockwise for almost 50 years. Thanks Sobakina love lol hi
    2. japs
      japs 8 March 2018 11: 19
      +3
      Retire early ...
      These tales are popular not only in the Outskirts.
      The usual nonsense of the average graduate of the Higher School of Economics or the Academy under the President of the Republic of Belarus.
      Poking around in Nos, they come up with new sources of budget revenues and new tariffs ...
      True, this electorate has lived too long.
      Sad ...
  18. rehev931
    rehev931 8 March 2018 09: 16
    0
    you are to blame for the fact that I want to eat! ...
  19. Strashila
    Strashila 8 March 2018 09: 22
    +1
    “The first is that Ukraine produces supercheap gas, but, as you know, it has stopped producing gas since 1970” ... well, since 1993 they didn’t think ... if they were so smart then from 2014 it was possible to organize everything ... or just gas no...???
    1. Micfoster
      Micfoster 8 March 2018 09: 28
      +2
      Now you have to switch to cheap gas!
    2. Chichikov
      Chichikov 8 March 2018 09: 43
      +1
      The most interesting thing is that all this is a lie - both for the West and for the population!
      Press service of Naftogaz, February 1, 2018.
      "In 2017, Ukraine produced 20,5 billion cubic meters of gas (in 2016 - 20,1 billion cubic meters). The increase in gas production compared to 2016 amounted to 0,45 billion cubic meters, or 2%."
      1. NKT
        NKT 8 March 2018 10: 31
        +1
        They don’t want to invest money, since the beginning of the 80s Moscow has reduced subsidies for geological exploration for Ukraine (increasing funding for the Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Okrug) and that's it, production has gone down.

      2. Antares
        Antares 8 March 2018 12: 21
        0
        Quote: Chichikov
        (in 2016 - 20,1 billion cubic meters).

        selling Ukrainian gas is now profitable (threefold)
  20. Clumsy
    Clumsy 8 March 2018 09: 38
    +1
    And as a result of this political position, we had gigantic inefficient consumption. Ukraine consumed six times more gas in comparison with any comparable European country per household per square meter, Yes, one “politician,” with, “Sumerii,” said that they were eating different, because they did not have enough money) )))
  21. Herculesic
    Herculesic 8 March 2018 09: 39
    +1
    Ukroina is the first country in the world that grows gas on trees, immediately in hundreds of cubic meters, on each branch. We need gas - shake a couple of branches, and that's enough for a long time! wassat This follows their statements by this subject, and now it’s just that all the trees suddenly wilted right away! !! crying lol
  22. German Titov
    German Titov 8 March 2018 09: 40
    +4
    Respect the "dog" (forgive the dogs for comparison). Again "ferns nakosyachili." Here it is. In 2008, I already heard from Pimple that "we need to switch to biological fuel" straw, dung, etc. Coal is absolutely not needed. It’s necessary to revive the ecology of Ukraine. "Just, on the memory, the" panes "are heated with gas (probably from Slovakia they are supplied, or they are produced by themselves (by eating and processing legumes))
  23. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 8 March 2018 10: 10
    +3
    weird. It seems that the “head of Naftogaz” is saying harshly, but I hear what the government and Gazprom told us in the 90's ... Yes, and now I don’t want to shoot for “money, but you hold on”.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 8 March 2018 10: 17
      +6
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      but I hear what the government and Gazprom were telling us in the 90s ... Yes, and now there’s no money for “but you hold on,” I want to shoot

      Why are you, my dear?
      Do you miss the 90s? That's when there really was “no money” ... For example, I had a personal record in those days - six months without a salary.
      Or just whine unbearable?
      I do not understand (c) request
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 8 March 2018 10: 30
        +4
        yeah)) I miss 90 terribly when there was nothing to eat and nothing, and on TV we were also told "our population lives too free. We need to raise prices to the European level" And no one remembered that Europe was eating our gas, and the ratio of salaries to wages is somewhat different. They simply demanded to raise our prices to the European level. And do not care that then the rent will be that way in 5-7 higher than the salary. But as in Europe, and everyone is happy. I miss and whine terribly. Just when you read, try turning on the brain.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 8 March 2018 10: 37
          +6
          Quote: Stroibat stock
          when you read try turning on the brain

          Ok, beat.
          And then you - when you write laughing
          Be kind yes
          1. Reserve buildbat
            Reserve buildbat 8 March 2018 11: 41
            +3
            and what didn’t suit you in my comment? I just said that the head of Naftogaz speaks the same Mr. who was told to us and still speak by frenzied liberalists, on whom the noose is crying
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 8 March 2018 11: 47
              +6
              Quote: Stroibat stock
              I just said that ...

              Thank you, after two additions everything is clear and unambiguous. I have no questions hi
        2. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 8 March 2018 11: 11
          0
          Quote: Stroibat stock
          They simply demanded to raise our prices to the European level. And do not care that then the rent will be that way 5-7 above the salary.

          Well, Duc, Chubais recently also voiced such thoughts. After the election we find out the details. After all, we, too, have been promised ten years of brilliant success ...
  24. Snail N9
    Snail N9 8 March 2018 10: 25
    +1
    I see no reason for joy. Gazprom will definitely raise the gas price in Russia to compensate for its losses. https://topcor.ru/407-ukraina-nanesla-otvetnyy-ud
    ar-po-gazpromu.html? utm_source = finobzor.ru
    sad
    1. SEER
      SEER 13 March 2018 03: 28
      0
      Quote: Snail N9
      https://topcor.ru/407-ukraina-nanesla-otvetnyy-ud
      ar-po-gazpromu.html? utm_source = finobzor.ru

      "And what do you call a retaliatory strike? Yes, do not tell ..."
  25. Alex ..
    Alex .. 8 March 2018 10: 29
    +1
    Victim of a drunk midwife.
  26. mgero
    mgero 8 March 2018 10: 49
    -1
    Pravilno i mux otganyaj
  27. flicker
    flicker 8 March 2018 10: 55
    +1
    The head of "Naftogaz": Ukraine has become a victim of the "vicious circle"
    The vicious circle is like a new Svidomo brain disease diagnosed by psychiatry.
  28. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 8 March 2018 11: 09
    +1
    The witness himself is that for many years the Khokhlokrains abused the consumption of cheap gas. Well, why not, if the gas is almost free and there are a lot of it. A freebie is a national feature of Khokhlov. We must now learn to save energy and get out of the way. But the main thing that the vicious circle is the insanity of the Krajin establishment and not the national elite.
  29. 23424636
    23424636 8 March 2018 11: 47
    +1
    this pi dor is a dog, he’s even afraid to pronounce the name of Tymoshenko, but this woman became a lifesaver when the pockmarked Yushchenko, who was in a stupor, pissed off to go and agree on preserving the economy. Lady Yu went and resolved issues and went on gas (under the letter of this agreement) these Haims Walzman and Groisman won the arbitration with more than 2 yards of greenery. from Gazprom .. The fact that Ukraine produces its gas on which these little dogs diluting with the Russian chopped cache is known to everyone, just Yanukovych, when he tried to lower the price of gas without entering into a single economic space with Russia, he began to make calculations through the Gorlovka Jew Boyko under Azarov through Slovakia for Russian gas, now these tricky schemes of this scheme are Boyko called independent gas consumption. There will be an independent use of kerosene for you. , rare villains and crooks ..
  30. Ural cossack
    Ural cossack 8 March 2018 12: 15
    0
    How is that? And Putin is not to blame? Oh damn !!!
  31. Antares
    Antares 8 March 2018 12: 25
    0
    The head of Naftogaz had to say that it is necessary to reduce the consumption of expensive imports. Accumulating it at a reasonable price in storage (if possible) and not urgently at the most expensive price when it comes.
    Its 20 billion is not enough. Import of 14 billion is clear what you need to buy. But not as it is now. This is not planning — this is a situational decision (very bad).
    Therefore, you do not need to give out changes, but you need to buy gas in advance at a low price in those periods when it is cheaper, and not when urgently needed. It is clear that the price will not be cheaper at the peak of consumption.
    1. NKT
      NKT 8 March 2018 13: 12
      +2
      They were warned a year ago that there is little gas in the underground gas storage facility and, at peak consumption, there may not be enough pressure to increase daily gas withdrawal. Last year - carried, this year - no.
  32. ML-334
    ML-334 8 March 2018 13: 40
    0
    It seems like guys-screw yes and screw, "America with you" -in Russian it sounds like to hell with you.
  33. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 8 March 2018 14: 34
    +1
    past politicians who preferred to buy gas only from Russia are to blame, and the population itself

    Well, as usual: anyone is to blame, but not We! Old song.
  34. Dormidont
    Dormidont 8 March 2018 18: 35
    0
    The vicious circle of the outskirts is a point
  35. private person
    private person 8 March 2018 20: 22
    0
    Ukraine was a victim of the so-called vicious circle associated with gas consumption from Russia.
    So it was a freebie Russian gas.
  36. Grandfather Luka
    Grandfather Luka 8 March 2018 21: 05
    0
    Since 2004, after the arrival of Yushchenko and subsequent Ukrainian, well-known movements.
    Quote: Antares
    Quote: vlad66
    to a freebie

    Article 4 of the agreement
    The base price is $ 450.
    Contract-360, for the 1st quarter of 2009
    https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/articles/2009/01/22
    / 4462671 /
  37. Prospero
    Prospero 8 March 2018 22: 02
    +2
    In Ukraine, half of all the forest belts have already been cut down, and no one knows for sure what will happen next.
    1. Senior manager
      Senior manager 9 March 2018 23: 56
      0
      And then the president of the outskirts will allow the round timber to be exported, it will raise gas prices and the forest belts will be cut down completely, and the forests will be cleaned up. People live as it should.
  38. Slovak
    Slovak 8 March 2018 22: 58
    +1
    And only Kobelek is white and fluffy. All 3 years thinking about it, but did nothing?
  39. earloop
    earloop 8 March 2018 23: 09
    0
    Correctly! At the first stage, all fell on the "politicians"!
  40. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 9 March 2018 12: 43
    0
    Yes, Ukraine is a victim of unsuccessful creation.
  41. chingachguc
    chingachguc 9 March 2018 18: 31
    0
    reduce consumption - reduce the population))
  42. Baloo
    Baloo 11 March 2018 13: 31
    +1
    Ukraine was a victim of the so-called vicious circle associated with the consumption of gas from Russia,

    Ukraine has become a victim of one of the features of the national mentality: myahkraskrayunism and the eternal dream is to steal fat and hide and so that there is nothing for it. They put the power of small-town bandits on their heads - the descendants of the traitors and executioners of Ukraine under the leadership of the CIA and the US ambassador. Well, rejoice, for two jumps, two tributaries ...