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In Syria, crashed An-26 RFL. 32 man died

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The Information Department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation publishes urgent information about the crash of a military transport aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria. From the message:
6 March around 15.00 (Moscow time) during the landing approach at the Khmeimim airfield the Russian transport aircraft An-26 crashed. According to preliminary data, the 26 passenger and 6 crew members were aboard the aircraft. They all died.


In Syria, crashed An-26 RFL. 32 man died

It is known that the plane fell, about half a kilometer from the airfield runway.

It is necessary to study the circumstances of the crash up to the consideration of the version of the error of the pilots or a strike on the Russian plane from the ground.

It is noted that one of the versions of what happened is the possible technical malfunction of the aircraft.

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reports the formation of the commission, which should establish the causes of the collapse of the transport worker.

Data on who exactly was on board the aircraft that crashed near the Hmeymim airbase in the province of Lattakia, at this moment (16: 50 Moscow time) is not given.

It was added that there was no fire impact on An-26.
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  1. Thrall
    Thrall 6 March 2018 16: 51
    +67
    Everlasting memory!
    1. Dimontius
      Dimontius 6 March 2018 16: 52
      +44
      But what kind of innovations are such constantly ((((
      1. Crowe
        Crowe 6 March 2018 16: 54
        +32
        There is no war without sacrifices! The kingdom of heaven to all the lost.
        1. Monos
          Monos 6 March 2018 17: 02
          +42
          Again “Antonov” ... We, interestingly, still cooperate with them? Well, there, spare parts, service ... Maybe someone was hired from Antonov?
          Peace be upon you, Lord, souls that have gone to You.
          1. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 6 March 2018 17: 04
            +20
            Quote: Monos
            Maybe someone was hired from Antonov?

            wait for the investigation, the kingdom of heaven to them
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 6 March 2018 17: 39
              +19
              Quote: Crowe
              There is no war without sacrifices! The kingdom of heaven to all the lost.

              So then the war. Only we have too much without war
              : ((
          2. 210ox
            210ox 6 March 2018 17: 09
            +14
            We don’t cooperate on military topics. Maybe something is left through the Belarusians. You understand that we don’t have anything to replace the ANov park yet. The kingdom of heaven is for our soldiers ..
            Quote: Monos
            Again “Antonov” ... We, interestingly, still cooperate with them? Well, there, spare parts, service ... Maybe someone was hired from Antonov?
            Peace be upon you, Lord, souls that have gone to You.
            1. Monos
              Monos 6 March 2018 17: 15
              +20
              Dima, hello hi For some reason, I recall the partisans who threw mines at tenders of locomotives, camouflaged under coal. I would check everything related to Ukraine a hundred times.
              1. Angel_and_Demon
                Angel_and_Demon 6 March 2018 19: 19
                +3
                Quote: Monos
                For some reason, I recall the partisans who threw mines at tenders of locomotives, camouflaged under coal. I would check everything related to Ukraine a hundred times.

                The "black box" was found at the crash site of the An-26 aircraft in Syria. He was delivered to the base in Khmeimim, reports iz.ru correspondent Semen Pegov.
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 6 March 2018 19: 53
                  +4
                  Victor hi Let's wait with the conclusions. It is very incomprehensible.
                  My deepest condolences to the relatives of the victims.
                  1. Angel_and_Demon
                    Angel_and_Demon 6 March 2018 20: 02
                    +3
                    Quote: Svarog51
                    Let's wait with the conclusions.

                    so I wrote about the same thing above, they do everything quickly, so the investigation will not be long
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 6 March 2018 20: 07
                      +2
                      Well, don’t tell, anything can happen. This is not a civilian airport plane crashed. They could contribute there.
                      1. Angel_and_Demon
                        Angel_and_Demon 6 March 2018 20: 24
                        +4
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        They could contribute there.

                        agree - never say no when
                    2. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 6 March 2018 20: 26
                      +3
                      Very likely. But while there is no evidence, I’ll be silent.
                  2. Pete mitchell
                    Pete mitchell 6 March 2018 20: 08
                    +8
                    Sergey present hi
                    Honestly, there are no words, but we must wait for the information.
                    The Kingdom of heaven..
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 6 March 2018 20: 22
                      +2
                      Greetings Tramp hi It is necessary to wait for information, which in vain to make assumptions, here I completely agree.
                      People feel sorry for the pain. My condolences. The competent commission will understand. Let's wait with conclusions.
                      1. Pete mitchell
                        Pete mitchell 6 March 2018 20: 29
                        +6
                        I welcome Sergey again. Sorry for people madly .. Levashovskys like, commander '96 release
                      2. NN52
                        NN52 6 March 2018 21: 45
                        +8
                        Svarog51

                        And the conclusions on Su 24 voiced? In October which ...
                    2. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 6 March 2018 20: 36
                      +1
                      How so? They would live and live, but here ... I don’t even know what to say.
                  3. Monos
                    Monos 6 March 2018 23: 38
                    +1
                    Greetings, Sergey hi
                    Quote: Svarog51
                    Let's wait with the conclusions. It is very incomprehensible.

                    I agree, of course. Just ... Paranoid I.
          3. Anti-Corr.
            Anti-Corr. 6 March 2018 17: 12
            +10
            Quote: Monos
            Again "Antonov" ...

            it’s not a matter of “antochas,” then we will return to this topic, but now
            My condolences to family and friends. soldier
          4. donavi49
            donavi49 6 March 2018 17: 27
            +17
            Well, the past Antonov crashed the crew (or rather Pravak) because of a lack of training. Most likely they were prepared according to another program (not using the requirements and recommendations of an international organization) - therefore they were lost. Although for Boeing / Watermelon after 757 crashed - due to the false signal "Speeding", they transferred to idle engines and fell off, the training programs were substantially rewritten. Now for Boeing / Watermelon - the standard of training is the consideration of situations with speed (going to zero, different indications, speeding), as well as these scenarios are included in the list of sudden accidents when passing the stage on the simulator.

            Here is the IAC decryption.
            Aircraft Commander: Up! Here.
            Co-pilot: Now, now.
            FAC: And you're down ..
            VP: In general, some garbage!
            PIC: No, well, as I understand it, you wanted it ... But you're on the contrary, down.
            VP: Then we will talk. So, we control everything!
            FAC: Everything, everything is fine.
            VP: Everything, speed normalized.
            Autoinformer: Compare speed, compare speed.
            VP: Op-op-op! 390!
            CF: Where is it down ?! Where are you down? Why down ?! Where?!

            Autoinformer: Compare speed, compare speed.
            VP: Yes, because n is good, 200 speed, b!
            FAC: Height! Height! Height!
            Autoinformer: Terrain ahead! Pull up! Terrain ahead!

            FAC: Top!
            Autoinformer: Terrain ahead! Pull up! Terrain ahead!
            FAC: Everything, p.


            Pravak caught the reflex - to prevent stalling, nose down, that's all. Although they went at cruising speed. According to the instructions for such a malfunction, they had to level the plane, check the cruising mode of the engines (throttle and indicators, then report to the ground, while choosing 2 independent sources of speed indicators (for example, the speed of approach to the beacon + GPS).
            1. Town Hall
              Town Hall 6 March 2018 17: 36
              0
              Quote: donavi49
              Although for a Boeing / Watermelon after crashed 757




              What case do you mean with 757? As far as I remember, a catastrophe for a similar reason occurred with Airbus flying from Rio to Paris over the Atlantic in 2008. It seems that the French for two years then searched for black boxes using submarines.
              1. donavi49
                donavi49 6 March 2018 18: 05
                +3
                Turkish side in the Caribbean. Where wasps got into Pitot’s pipe. Therefore, at the FAC - the speed went off the scale and the signal “Overspeeding” was on, as the computer took all the information from the faulty handset by default. They reduced gas to idle and fell off.
                1. Town Hall
                  Town Hall 6 March 2018 18: 32
                  +1
                  Exactly, but the case that I was talking about is the same. They got into a thunderstorm and Pitot’s pipes froze. The commander was sleeping. He replaced the trainee. He lifted his nose and put the plane into a flat corkscrew. They awoke the FAC until he arrived and realized what the trainee was doing -the plane was ruined


                  EMNIP after the case in the Caribbean there was a requirement to cover the pitot tubes in the parking lots. And after Airbus, the tubes themselves were modified
                  1. Avis-bis
                    Avis-bis 6 March 2018 19: 02
                    +6
                    Quote: Town Hall

                    EMNIP after the case in the Caribbean there was a requirement to cover the pitot tubes in the parking lots

                    Air pressure receivers cover for any parking longer than a certain period. In Soviet times, it was three hours under favorable weather conditions. And they’ve been doing this for more than half a century, there hasn’t even been an Airbus. :)
              2. Pete mitchell
                Pete mitchell 6 March 2018 20: 16
                +5
                Quote: Town Hall
                Airbus flying from Rio to Paris over the Atlantic in 2008

                Air France 744, it was defeated: the second pilot was sitting on the right, the second pilot was sitting there at that moment and on the left; the captain was resting, in the end he “jammed” the right one with the joystick taken over, they didn’t notice this, the captain returned, they noticed late ... The plane, the fly-by-wire sau worked perfectly, the plane crashed with a constant pitch angle.
                The French even brought in atomic submarines.
                1. NN52
                  NN52 6 March 2018 20: 34
                  +9
                  Pete
                  Hi!

                  I join in the condolences on the forum of our colleagues ...

                  But as I understand it, the An 26 flew there constantly, and not from Russia ... So the crew is experienced ... Apparently SURE the technical failure is irrevocable ...
                  1. Pete mitchell
                    Pete mitchell 6 March 2018 20: 51
                    +4
                    Gamarjoba Genatsvale, a sad day ..
                    I think -26 on the "sandbox" like a bus drove. Let's wait for the information, to be honest - the head does not accept, it cannot be, it should not.
            2. Wasiliy1985
              Wasiliy1985 6 March 2018 17: 54
              0
              PPC, really: I’m only going to fly by day flights !!! Why, the LDPE with GPS on a smartphone is not fate to compare ?! Have you eaten the night overboard ?! Ask smart stewardess and commander ..
              My Chinese also GLONASS catches ..
            3. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 6 March 2018 20: 37
              +3
              Quote: donavi49
              Pravak caught a reflex - to prevent stall

              It is unfortunate that he did not develop another reflex: to use all the information, but it was. And the airliner is instrument flights and the main reflex here is to use instruments, and they worked, there was something to work with. I think St. Peter greeted him with a good drin ... I had to learn the materiel, not open my mouth ..
          5. Alexander 3
            Alexander 3 6 March 2018 18: 02
            +3
            Disasters have been and will be, no matter what they fly on. This is a technique plus the human factor. Earth in peace for the dead.
            1. Scoun
              Scoun 6 March 2018 19: 00
              +3
              Quote: Alexander 3
              Disasters have been and will be, no matter what they fly on.

              Once a plane with a hockey team .., a plane with Alexandrov’s choir ... I’m afraid there were specialists too. (((
          6. Ratmir_Ryazan
            Ratmir_Ryazan 6 March 2018 22: 40
            +5
            Again “Antonov” ... We, interestingly, still cooperate with them? Well, there, spare parts, service ... Maybe someone was hired from Antonov?


            What does this have to do with it ?! Now more often mediocre pilots are ruining people because instead of studying they are engaged in shooting videos with dances for Satisfaction ...

            There was the second pilot of the An-148, not only did he forget to turn on the sensor heater, he also mixed up actions in a critical situation, despite the warnings of the first pilot and equipment ...

            Tolboev said correctly in the Federal Air Transport Agency they are not training pilots, but killers ... And military pilots are no better ...
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              1. Ratmir_Ryazan
                Ratmir_Ryazan 7 March 2018 00: 34
                +2
                And thirdly, you better not even stutter about military pilots, mu ... k ...


                Wow, what a talkative ... For all the pilots through the fault of which the people crashed ready to answer ?!

                Well, let's justify the crew of the An-148 crashed in the suburbs, the Tu-154 crashed near Sochi with the Turetsky choir (there were military pilots there), what else was there from the recent Sukhoi Superjet in Malaysia ... What were the reasons there ?! Is it not in the actions of the crews, but the hero ?!

                And anyway, remind me when the equipment was to blame for the crash in Russia ?! I don’t remember any of the last ...

                Well, which of us is mu .... k ?!

                I’ve seen military pilots in Chechnya, so don’t tell me how cool you are ...
                1. Pete mitchell
                  Pete mitchell 7 March 2018 04: 33
                  +5
                  Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                  I saw military pilots in Chechnya

                  Well? What are the complaints? Speak? Here my classmate pulled out a group of special forces from the environment, no one was injured in the turntable, the car was written off. Got something to add?
                  You are sorry, but it seems to me you are not so hot as you understand the intricacies, you fly? No, well, good luck
                  PS Military, civilian pilots act "here and now" and before asking questions: first, learn to formulate them correctly; and secondly, think whether you are running ahead of the engine.
                  'Half a second' now has the right to ask questions, but can you also answer?
                  1. Ratmir_Ryazan
                    Ratmir_Ryazan 7 March 2018 09: 10
                    +4
                    Of course there is, if you are interested in sharing ...

                    somehow we didn’t take the patient off the border outpost, he died, although there were always helicopters in Tushor and Khankala, there weren’t always pilots ready to take them up in the air and complete the task, often the pilots flew just drunk, they still have discipline ... Never in my 9 years of service in Chechnya have I seen anyone with appendicitis or something else being taken to the hospital by helicopter, but you know, removing a person from a mountain outpost is a big problem ... We also nearly lost a soldier , they removed it from the outpost for several hours, while sepsis started on all the streamers, the doctors would say another 30 minutes and the deceased ...

                    during the war with Georgia, one attack aircraft bombed near one of our border outposts, either so stupid that it couldn’t get through Georgia, or just a coward, dropped bombs and went home - like, look, the hero I spent all the b / c ...

                    about how the pilots speculated at exorbitant prices with cigarettes and other things when the border outposts were just set up in Chechnya and naturally there were problems with many things I don’t even want to say, it's just nasty, about how to sell water in the desert for the price of black caviar ..

                    So the pilots are no different from everyone else and I don’t need to tell me that they are all saints ...
                    No, I don’t want to be misunderstood and I say that ALL pilots are bad, no, most of them are really professionals and a hero like Roman Phillipov, but among them more and more amateurs began to come across, who fall into their places through tricks and bribes, and the result is a disaster and a lot of victims ... Only recently there was a disaster, where a civilian pilot was a technician with some kind of left access to flights, he crashed a working plane, just could not perform a second landing approach. The other board with the Lokomotiv hockey team, the Yak-42, took off with the brakes pressed, could not pick up speed, crashed into a beacon ... What is this ?! These are problems of the selection and training system for pilots !!!

                    You can tear one place for your own military branch and civil aviation as much as you like, but the fact remains that there are more and more accidents in Russia connected with airplanes and as a rule they are all due to pilot mistakes ...
                    1. Pete mitchell
                      Pete mitchell 7 March 2018 12: 08
                      +4
                      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                      but the fact remains that there are more and more accidents in Russia connected with airplanes and, as a rule, all of them are due to pilot mistakes ...

                      Probably there is a reasonable grain in your words, I somehow came across a different attitude to business. By and large, the Russian Federation is now dismantling the consequences of the mess of the 90s and probably a lot of time will pass before the situation changes. The army is a reflection of the State, with all its joys and problems.
                      The famous “human factor” is the cause of three quarters of flight accidents worldwide, a system error and we must look for the reasons.
                    2. Pete mitchell
                      Pete mitchell 7 March 2018 19: 08
                      +4
                      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                      about how the pilots speculated

                      Excuse me, but didn’t try to fill your face at a remote outpost? I think it would help
                    3. Pete mitchell
                      Pete mitchell 7 March 2018 19: 11
                      +4
                      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                      attack aircraft bombed near one of our border outposts

                      This is a system problem, planning, believe me. And not only Russian VKS.
                      During the first war in the Gulf, two British armored vehicles jumped forward and ran into two Amer A-10: 9 corpses. Do not believe me, the situation is the same in the second war: the Britons were not taken aback - only the wounded
                    4. Flyer_64
                      Flyer_64 7 March 2018 19: 11
                      +2
                      I’ve seen military pilots in Chechnya, so don’t tell me how cool you are.
                      Like all one measure. Driver??? Drive a car ??? How many per week dies on the road? How many are drunk? How many dashing and not adequate ??? And how many boors, thugs on the road ??? Already used to. We do not notice, do not discuss, get used to it, do not brand, do not disgrace. I do not argue there are pilots who are not very
                      with a good reputation, but they are few. Nothing stigmatizes everyone.
                2. NN52
                  NN52 8 March 2018 22: 08
                  +9
                  Ratmir_Ryazan

                  Well YOU gave ...
                  You mixed military and civil pilots in a heap ... Your opus on this topic could not be ignored ...
                  Perhaps you were in Chechnya, walking with a dog, and you didn’t have enough cigarettes, poor thing ... Do you know how many turntables were filled up in Chechnya? And about the drunk pilots, this is generally a masterpiece .... Isn’t it embarrassing to say that? On alcohol, it’s unrealistic not only to put a fighter, but a turntable too ...

                  Concerning the coward's dropping of bombs near the type outpost in the Georgian conflict, BREDDDDDD .....

                  With military pilots, upon receipt, no one gives a bribe, not really .... Medicine ...
                  And it would be better if I apologized on the site for my words to military pilots ///
                  And I don’t refuse my words to you, unless of course you apologize ...
              2. Ratmir_Ryazan
                Ratmir_Ryazan 7 March 2018 00: 57
                0
                “It is very difficult for me as a professional to say this, but the reason for the death of the An-148 aircraft is the completely unprepared crew. Why did this happen? It is necessary to ask Neradko in the Federal Air Transport Agency; he is responsible for this. Pilots did everything wrong, some mistakes, the so-called human factor, they killed people! Now there are no pilots - only pokes, operators - poke at the buttons, not understanding anything. Therefore, catastrophes in our country are worse than the other — Kazan, Yaroslavl and so on, ”said Magomed Tolboev.


                In your opinion, he is also wrong, too, mu..k ?!
                1. Town Hall
                  Town Hall 7 March 2018 01: 06
                  +2
                  Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                  “It is very difficult for me as a professional to say this, but the reason for the death of the An-148 aircraft is the completely unprepared crew. Why did this happen? It is necessary to ask Neradko in the Federal Air Transport Agency; he is responsible for this. Pilots did everything wrong, some mistakes, the so-called human factor, they killed people! Now there are no pilots - only pokes, operators - poke at the buttons, not understanding anything. Therefore, catastrophes in our country are worse than the other — Kazan, Yaroslavl and so on, ”said Magomed Tolboev.


                  In your opinion, he is also wrong, too, mu..k ?!




                  And what is this character so famous for besides the nonsense that carries on TV every time as a disaster? ... what are his competencies in piloting civilian aircraft?



                  Pilot mistakes are different. There is gagging and negligence.


                  And there are pilots mistakes, for example, because the technique is imperfect. For example, in the An-140 crash, why didn’t the electronics react to the fact that the LDPE heating toggle switch is not turned on? ... because the electronics is backward and does not insure the pilot’s error. But changing to a better one is big money. it’s easier for all pilots to write off.


                  Py.Sy.why pilots were not ready for such an emergency? ... why weren’t they prepared? ... who lets out unprepared pilots on the line? ... Who gives them “rights”?
                  1. Pete mitchell
                    Pete mitchell 7 March 2018 03: 35
                    +5
                    Quote: Town Hall
                    what is this character so famous for besides the nonsense that it carries on TV every time as a disaster? ... what are his competencies in piloting civilian aircraft?

                    Just applaud you town hall, removed from the tongue. With great respect for Talboev as a tester, but when he starts talking about civil aviation, well, I'm sorry. His name is in gold letters in our school, but his theses on civilians, even unpleasant to listen, babble.
                    And you ask the right questions, who would answer
                    1. Pingo
                      Pingo 8 March 2018 22: 35
                      0
                      He speaks correctly. The Federal Air Transport Agency has long said that the transcript of negotiations in the press is fake. The superjet dispatcher pointed to the mountain, and then he himself disappeared somewhere.
                  2. Ratmir_Ryazan
                    Ratmir_Ryazan 7 March 2018 09: 23
                    +1
                    And what is this character so famous for besides the nonsense that carries on TV every time as a disaster? ... what are his competencies in piloting civilian aircraft?


                    Tolboev Magomed Omarovich, the reserve major major, test pilot, was also the Buran’s test cosmonaut, the hero of Russia ... That's how you put it, “character”, he’s certainly far from local “experts”, but still a man with a big experience ...
                    And he gives comments to the media, because they turn to him for them as one of the aviation professionals ...

                    Are you sure that the pilots did not burn the sensor, that the LDPE heater is not turned on ?! But I don’t ... Just in the light of recent disasters, this does not look fantastic, in Yaroslavl the Yak-42 takes off on brakes, in Indonesia, a pilot performing a demonstration flight in a mountainous area turned off the ground-warning device !!! How is that even possible ?!

                    The result is sad ... Technique is becoming more reliable and reliable, but not professionalism and frank mediocrity and stupidity of the crews neutralize all this and lead to disaster ... And the sooner the realization of this comes, the faster something will begin to change ...
                    1. Town Hall
                      Town Hall 7 March 2018 10: 11
                      +1
                      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                      And what is this character so famous for besides the nonsense that carries on TV every time as a disaster? ... what are his competencies in piloting civilian aircraft?


                      Tolboev Magomed Omarovich, the reserve major major, test pilot, was also the Buran’s test cosmonaut, the hero of Russia ... That's how you put it, “character”, he’s certainly far from local “experts”, but still a man with a big experience ...
                      And he gives comments to the media, because they turn to him for them as one of the aviation professionals ...

                      Are you sure that the pilots did not burn the sensor, that the LDPE heater is not turned on ?! But I don’t ... Just in the light of recent disasters, this does not look fantastic, in Yaroslavl the Yak-42 takes off on brakes, in Indonesia, a pilot performing a demonstration flight in a mountainous area turned off the ground-warning device !!! How is that even possible ?!

                      The result is sad ... Technique is becoming more reliable and reliable, but not professionalism and frank mediocrity and stupidity of the crews neutralize all this and lead to disaster ... And the sooner the realization of this comes, the faster something will begin to change ...




                      Talboev is the same Buran test pilot like you or me.


                      The Hero Star for his ability to fly on MiGs does not add to him a single gram of knowledge in the field of piloting passenger airplanes. This proves nonsense about "pilots who can only press buttons." That's just the fact that the safety of civilian aircraft consists precisely in time and in the proper investigation press all the buttons. And the "pros" neglecting this and the beginners "barrels" twist, kill themselves and passengers. Like a test pilot Supepjet.



                      He gives interviews all the time because the same “pros” work on TV as he does. This person spoke out about all the disasters over the past decades. Try to compare the nonsense of this unfortunate predictor with the real reasons published after the investigation. Shame and disgrace, but continues every time you make everyone laugh again.


                      In specific cases, what did you indicate. By Yak-42. Who is responsible for the pilot who previously flew on the Yak-40, whose brake pedal is arranged differently, was allowed to fly on the Yak-42, without appropriate retraining in violation all the rules when moving from one type of aircraft to another? He kept his feet on the pedals as it should be when taking off the Yak-40 and not the Yak-42 .. Is this the fault of the pilot or the System in which it is possible (airlines, regulatory authorities, etc.)?
                      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
                        Ratmir_Ryazan 7 March 2018 10: 27
                        +1
                        I don’t understand, what do you want to say that the pilots have nothing to do with it ?!

                        With the same Yak-42, well, since you can’t control it, you don’t know where its brakes turn off - well then don’t get into the cab !!! In Indonesia, the newest Sukhoi Superjet 100 crashed there, is electronics also to blame ?! Which is probably still not Russian, like so much more in it ?! To blame for what, the pilot himself disabled the warning system with the ground ?! Recently, there was only a catastrophe where the pilot simply could not cope with the second approach, it turned out that he was some kind of technician all the time, and received the pilot certificate in some kind of left-handed cantor ...

                        Since such pilots, it is naturally the fault of the system, and it is obvious that something needs to be changed ...

                        Take a look at the statistics of air crashes in Russia - they are huge and the reasons are often in the mistakes of pilots -

                      2. Pete mitchell
                        Pete mitchell 7 March 2018 12: 11
                        +4
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        to compare the nonsense of this sorrow of the predictor with the real reasons published after the investigation. Shame and disgrace, but each time continues to make everyone laugh again.

                        And what did he tell the Russians about the disaster over Lake Baden / Tu-154 moved the B-757 / told, in general, nonsense
                  3. BASTA
                    BASTA 7 March 2018 11: 46
                    0
                    ..first, - * prayer * must be read .., secondly, perform it by all members of the crew (whoever is affected by this -read item). No need to blame an electrician if the instructions on the card are not always followed ((
                2. Dude
                  Dude 7 March 2018 01: 18
                  -1
                  This one, in general, is fabulous ... Though a Hero, and
                3. Flyer_64
                  Flyer_64 8 March 2018 21: 11
                  0
                  Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                  “It is very difficult for me as a professional to say this, but the reason for the death of the An-148 aircraft is the completely unprepared crew. Why did this happen? It is necessary to ask Neradko in the Federal Air Transport Agency; he is responsible for this. Pilots did everything wrong, some mistakes, the so-called human factor, they killed people! Now there are no pilots - only pokes, operators - poke at the buttons, not understanding anything. Therefore, catastrophes in our country are worse than the other — Kazan, Yaroslavl and so on, ”said Magomed Tolboev.


                  In your opinion, he is also wrong, too, mu..k ?!

                  There was already a discussion of the An-148 catastrophe, I expressed everything there about the pilots of civil aviation. It discusses the disaster of the military side, and even in the area of ​​hostilities. Therefore, I do not see an analogy between the citizens and the military. An-26 is not an analogue of arbases and Boeing. If you compare by analogy, this is a Soviet car of the last century. There is nothing to operate on it, you need to steer, and hard. In the previous post I expressed everything. Yes, your statements on the Caucasus operation to force peace, also out of place. At one time, I distributed cigarettes on outposts to fighters in batches, although I myself do not smoke, and chocolate. Because for 2500-3000 after unloading the helicopter they barely drag their legs. And during the coercion operation, they fired at me; they did not like camouflage. So that.
        2. ARES623
          ARES623 6 March 2018 17: 13
          +17
          Quote: Crowe
          There is no war without victims

          And what does the war have to do with it? Something often began to fall passenger aircraft of our Ministry of Defense .... A year ago, the Tu-154, today the An-26 .... In both cases, the external impact is denied. It remains, for the most part, the organization and provision of air transportation in the Moscow Region.
          The kingdom of heaven and the eternal memory of the lost. Condolences to the family ....
          1. ivanec
            ivanec 6 March 2018 17: 21
            +2
            Do you think EW?
            1. ARES623
              ARES623 6 March 2018 17: 40
              +1
              Quote: ivanec
              Do you think EW?

              It’s hard to believe anything. We must wait for the results of the investigation. Fortune-telling on coffee grounds is not a thankful task.
            2. NEOZ
              NEOZ 6 March 2018 17: 46
              +2
              Quote: ivanec
              Do you think EW?

              EW in front of Hmeimim? AN26 ???
              yes, come on .....
              1. ivanec
                ivanec 6 March 2018 19: 25
                +3
                .... and what is surprising if in Moscow planes shot down snowplows.
                1. Avis-bis
                  Avis-bis 6 March 2018 21: 15
                  +4
                  Quote: ivanec
                  .... and what is surprising if in Moscow planes shot down snowplows.

                  This means that electronic warfare against the An-26 is not serious. Even if you somehow manage to burn all of his lamps and transistors (and such an EM pulse, PMSM, will also burn REBovets equipment), then the electrician and pneumatics will not be able to burn like that. Horizons, bar altimeters and airspeed indicators will continue to work. And more for a safe landing and is not necessary, in the sense of instrumentation. Engine control there, and at all, mechanical and hydraulic.
            3. Falcond
              Falcond 6 March 2018 18: 35
              +1
              Overload must be assumed
              1. keeper03
                keeper03 6 March 2018 18: 57
                +2
                What an overload ?! The board did not reach 500 m. To the strip !!! sad
                The kingdom of heaven to the dead and condolences to relatives!
              2. BASTA
                BASTA 7 March 2018 11: 59
                0
                Quote: FalconD
                Overload must be assumed

                No need to come up with versions (especially stupid ..) - overload is dangerous during take-off .., well, not at all during landing .. when the fuel is exhausted during the flight ...
          2. Crowe
            Crowe 6 March 2018 17: 44
            +3
            Quote: ARES623
            And what does the war have to do with it?

            If it weren’t for the war, the plane wouldn’t be there. But...
            Is this an isolated tragedy? Is it during war only battle losses?
            1. ARES623
              ARES623 6 March 2018 17: 52
              +4
              Quote: Crowe
              If it weren’t for the war, the plane wouldn’t be there.

              Well, if it weren’t for the Wright brothers, not Mozhaisk ... ...... there wouldn’t be any air crashes, like a phenomenon.
              1. Falcond
                Falcond 6 March 2018 18: 36
                +2
                You haven’t chosen a place for wit, it’s inappropriate here
                1. ARES623
                  ARES623 6 March 2018 19: 32
                  +3
                  Quote: FalconD
                  No place you chose

                  With you, dear, I didn’t drink vodka, and therefore keep your distance .... And my comment calls not to draw the ears of the war, as the cause of death, in those incidents where there are signs of systemic problems of the videoconferencing.
          3. Separ
            Separ 6 March 2018 18: 36
            +2
            Because the planes are already old and they are all being exploited.
        3. Stas Snezhin
          Stas Snezhin 6 March 2018 17: 25
          0
          Strange, the whole way flew by, and such.
          Maybe when landing, instrumentation sensors misled the pilots ..
          1. Falcond
            Falcond 6 March 2018 18: 38
            +3
            These pilots in a pack of Belomor can fly ... what devices do they have in front of the lane?
        4. Svarog
          Svarog 6 March 2018 19: 57
          +6
          Quote: Crowe
          There is no war without sacrifices! The kingdom of heaven to all the lost.

          So here it is still not clear war is again negligence .. At least in civil aviation we have a full tryndets .. so many planes fall only with us, if in three years in the world 2 planes fall, then we have 10 .. And neither of which does not change .. All the rules .. Everything in its place ..
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 6 March 2018 20: 32
            +1
            Without politics, no matter how? PEOPLE are dead! Well, what kind of people are you? Planes are falling all over the world, and you all want to tie them to something. Vladimir, well, not everything is so measured. hi
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 6 March 2018 20: 54
              +7
              Quote: Svarog51
              Without politics, no matter how? PEOPLE are dead! Well, what kind of people are you? Planes are falling all over the world, and you all want to tie them to something. Vladimir, well, not everything is so measured. hi

              Yes, what kind of politics is it ... that's it people are dying .. and who is responsible? I think from condolences it will not become much easier who, due to negligence and sloppiness, loses loved ones ..
      2. Thrall
        Thrall 6 March 2018 16: 54
        +5
        MO seems to have called a preliminary cause a technical malfunction.
        1. Looking for
          Looking for 6 March 2018 17: 08
          +30
          Throw what kind of malfunction they are. "The plane took off. Flew the entire route and nothing, but as soon as it was in ideal conditions for an attack from the ground. (Restrictions on maneuver, altitude, speed) -so immediately those malfunction.
          1. vlad66
            vlad66 6 March 2018 17: 13
            +18
            Quote: Seeker
            Throw what kind of malfunction they are. "The plane took off. Flew the entire route and nothing, but as soon as it was in ideal conditions for an attack from the ground. (Restrictions on maneuver, altitude, speed) -so immediately those malfunction.

            You were there and you saw, maybe better, more accurate conclusions will wait ah? And how something will happen a bunch of experts from sofas connects and conspiracy theorists. The dead is eternal memory. Mourn
          2. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 6 March 2018 17: 19
            +6
            17:14 Telegram channel Mash reports that this An-26 was assigned to the 6th VKS army, was seconded to Syria and was based at the Khmeimim airfield.
            so he didn’t fly half the planet
            1. Cutter
              Cutter 6 March 2018 17: 51
              +8
              Eternal memory and eternal peace! I feel sorry for my relatives ... I would have had the strength to survive such a tragedy ....
              1. Angel_and_Demon
                Angel_and_Demon 6 March 2018 18: 11
                +5
                18:09 Again, unofficial data. Telegram channel WarGonzo reports that eyewitnesses of the crash of the plane got in touch. According to them, during the landing of the An-26, it was very tilted, "sat almost sideways."
                18:05 In the publics of various terrorist groups operating in Syria - silence. No one claimed responsibility for the attack on the aircraft, which indirectly confirms the main version: the An-26 was not shot down.
          3. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 6 March 2018 17: 21
            +4
            17:20 According to Mash, the An-26 took off from the Kvayres airfield in the suburbs of Aleppo, after which it made two intermediate landings and headed for Khmeimim.
          4. dzvero
            dzvero 6 March 2018 17: 24
            +3
            Before Khmeimim, he made two intermediate landings (according to forumavia.ru). Waited in the bushes? This is not a scheduled passenger liner. Most likely the malfunction of the materiel or wind shear or microburst, and the pilots did not have enough time, altitude and speed to get out of the situation on the glide path.
            1. Flyer_64
              Flyer_64 6 March 2018 20: 26
              +2
              Most likely the malfunction of the materiel or the shear of the wind or microburst, and on the glide path the pilots did not have enough time, altitude and speed to get out of the situation

              The approach to Khmeimim is built on a steep glide path, and at a speed slightly higher than on a standard glide path. The plane flew a third of Syria. And events from Syria are filtered. What happened at the intermediate landings and along the route we do not know. If we analyze the case of the Su-25, then the command of the group did not assume that the drying could be attacked from the ground. An-26 reliable aircraft. We are waiting for the officials to say. But I will say half the truth.
              1. Full name
                Full name 6 March 2018 21: 09
                0
                Quote: Letun_64
                The approach to Khmeimim is built on a steep glide path, and at a speed slightly higher than on a standard glide path.

                I am not special in this area, but explain if this anti-aircraft maneuver, in fact diving from a great height with large overloads at the exit, could have caused a catastrophe, given the fatigue of aircraft structures that are already over 30?
                1. Cook
                  Cook 6 March 2018 22: 07
                  +2
                  This plane, which would collapse in the air, must be subjected to an overload value of 4G for a long time. Even in the process of various kinds of extreme approaches, such an overload does not occur. Well, about the cases of the destruction of the aircraft in the air due to structural defects or design fatigue, I have not heard anything since the time of the catastrophes with the An-10 and Lockheed Electra. And about An-12 and An-26, they said: "Glory to the Soviet steelworkers"
                  1. Full name
                    Full name 6 March 2018 22: 46
                    0
                    Quote: Cook
                    we said: "Glory to the Soviet steelworkers"

                    No doubt, the Soviet - glory. But if I’m not mistaken, the fatigue is characterized by the fact that the load necessary for the destruction of metal is greatly reduced in the presence of a cyclic load, and if it is not scary for a brand new aircraft and 4G, then for a 40-year-old veteran 1G can be fatal. Although I repeat, I do not insist, just a version.
                    1. BASTA
                      BASTA 7 March 2018 12: 12
                      0
                      Allow me to explain a little ..: ..- that after a certain flying hours the aircraft (LA) passes the regulations in the fuel and energy sector .., where with an instrument, so special .. the entire aircraft body rings for the presence of microcracks. So dear ones, you can be calm on this side.
          5. Genry
            Genry 6 March 2018 17: 34
            0
            Quote: Seeker
            Throw what kind of malfunction they are. "The plane took off. Flew the entire route and nothing, but as soon as it was in ideal conditions for an attack from the ground. (Restrictions on maneuver, altitude, speed) -so immediately those malfunction.

            Here, a sharp change in conditions, different air temperatures (near the sea) and confusion in altitude could play.
          6. Piramidon
            Piramidon 6 March 2018 17: 47
            +1
            Quote: Seeker
            Throw what kind of malfunction they are. "The plane took off. Flew the entire route and nothing, but as soon as it was in ideal conditions for an attack from the ground. (Restrictions on maneuver, altitude, speed) -so immediately those malfunction.

            Most accidents occur on takeoff and landing.
          7. Falcond
            Falcond 6 March 2018 18: 39
            +1
            Do not dust, the bulk of accidents on takeoff and landing
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          9. igor1981
            igor1981 6 March 2018 19: 37
            +1
            Quote: Seeker
            Throw what kind of malfunction they are. "The plane took off. Flew the entire route and nothing, but as soon as it was in ideal conditions for an attack from the ground. (Restrictions on maneuver, altitude, speed) -so immediately those malfunction.


            That's right. Something is wrong here. 500 m to the strip is very low and the speed is low. If the engines, then why not planned and did not sit on the ground. So sharply fell and the fuel exploded. tanks on the ground ... Let's see what the MO says.
        2. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 6 March 2018 17: 10
          +4
          "According to the report, there was no fire on the plane," the RF Defense Ministry added. https://www.unian.net/world/10032848-tehnicheskay
          a-neispravnost-poyavilis-podrobnosti-krusheniya-r
          ossiyskogo-an-26-v-sirii.html
          Preliminary cause of the disaster
          According to preliminary information, the cause of the disaster could be a technical malfunction. The Ministry of Defense noted that, "according to the report, there was no fire on the plane." https://ria.ru/syria/20180306/1515873899.html
        3. kapitan92
          kapitan92 6 March 2018 17: 53
          +8
          Quote: Thrall
          MO seems to have called a preliminary cause a technical malfunction.

          Now will begin the "fantasies of zhurnalyug and bloggers," the joyous bleating of hohloman.
          An-26 transporter, crashed in Syria, was assigned to the 6th Army of the Russian Air Force, based in Khmeimim.

          The plane was based at a Syrian airfield as seconded to Syria, according to the Mash Telegram channel.

          It is also noted that Major Smirnov was at the helm of the aircraft, and several civilians were on board. A plane took off from the Quiires airfield in the suburbs of Aleppo, made two intermediate landings and headed for Hmeimim.

          https://vz.ru/news/2018/3/6/911365.html
          We can only wait for reliable info from the MO! hi
          1. Falcond
            Falcond 6 March 2018 18: 43
            +5
            We can only wait for reliable info from the MO


            will you wait ...? especially reliable
            1. kapitan92
              kapitan92 6 March 2018 20: 44
              +5
              Quote: FalconD
              We can only wait for reliable info from the MO


              will you wait ...? especially reliable

              It all depends on what mission he performed, and the composition of passengers on board. The simplest thing for MO is a technical malfunction.) IMHO) hi
      3. Fornit
        Fornit 6 March 2018 17: 02
        0
        Quote: Dimontius
        what kind of innovations are such


        You would have such "obsessions!" !! The most catastrophe ... The kingdom of heaven is innocently murdered!
        1. Karakurt
          Karakurt 6 March 2018 17: 08
          +3
          Quote: Fornit
          Quote: Dimontius
          what kind of innovations are such


          You would have such "obsessions!" !! The most catastrophe ... The kingdom of heaven is innocently murdered!

          No need to glow and cling to the words, this will not make it easier for the family !!!!!! Soul Cries and Heart Hurts !!!!! Everything is very BAD
      4. Kent0001
        Kent0001 6 March 2018 18: 10
        +1
        It’s just that the plane was 153 years old and this is AN. Or send techies to Magadan (if the reason is really technical). We are ruining too many of our people just like that. There, combat losses were less than killed in two passenger flights ... and probably the chief of transport aviation must retire for a long time, people will be more whole. There are no words. Everlasting memory.
        1. Falcond
          Falcond 6 March 2018 18: 45
          0
          retiree chief of transport aviation

          First, a plane
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        1. vlad66
          vlad66 6 March 2018 20: 28
          +5
          Quote: ankon
          It is necessary to change the power in the elections of March 18, 2018, to vote for other people. It is a pity that Russian people do not always think about

          Listen, dear people, you would have turned off with elections and campaigning on another branch, here PEOPLE Died, and not campaigning for one or the other. negative
        2. Svarog51
          Svarog51 6 March 2018 20: 44
          +3
          You do not like Russia. And as a FORMER military, do not honor the SUPREME COMMANDER. You just need to throw it on the fan, apparently "suffered" during the service from the "excess of zeal." Otherwise, where is such hatred?
        3. SK70
          SK70 6 March 2018 20: 52
          +1
          Quote: ankon
          Friends, hello!
          This is not an obsession, but a mess created in our army by Putin’s oligarchs V.V. and his surroundings. You look, how much bragging Putin issued, addressing the message to the Federal Assembly. as the media write, the speech lasted two hours, during which time the president talked about pensions, the economy and new weapons. Did you notice which planes our pilots fly on? On the old, still made in the USSR! The downed SU-25, an old reliable attack aircraft, but did not have modern missile defense! Sent to the war in a simplified form (no money, but you hold on). For the 18 years of the reign of Mr. President, new attack aircraft have not been built! The crashed AN-26 aircraft was produced in the Soviet Union, it is also many years old. According to official data (voiced during the debate by Boldyrev Yu.Yu., proxy of Grudinin Pavel), during the reign of Putin, 750 billion US dollars were withdrawn from the country. How much good can be done for the people of Russia with these huge funds? But today greedy people in power, not sparing the people, which leads us into the abyss. It is necessary to change the power in the elections of March 18, 2018, to vote for other people. It is a pity that Russian people do not always think about the causes of the disasters. The kingdom of heaven is lost. Sincerely, Anatoly Kon .. SPb.

          Your arguments are correct, but you have chosen the wrong branch.
          Wrong place for sracha.
      6. SK70
        SK70 6 March 2018 19: 36
        +2
        Rest in peace.
        But it’s strange. There was no investigation, and the Moscow Region immediately emphasized the absence of fire damage.
      7. Strategia
        Strategia 6 March 2018 20: 25
        0
        OWNERS
      8. LeonidL
        LeonidL 7 March 2018 05: 14
        0
        Remember such "random" obsessions happened during the Perestroika period ... And look at the statistics of fires for the last year and the previous one ... Add the number of false calls about mining and the oil painting will develop instantly. If the planes fall ... someone needs it.
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 6 March 2018 16: 59
      +10
      Everlasting memory! Again, like passenger An.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 6 March 2018 17: 03
        +3
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Everlasting memory!

        ...............................................
      2. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 6 March 2018 17: 07
        +3
        Vladyka, hello !!! hi
        There are simply no words ... We are just starting to move away from one emergency ... And now, on you .. sad Eternal memory ... Earth rest in peace ...
        What kind of explosion, in Maryinka ??
    3. Black_Vatnik
      Black_Vatnik 6 March 2018 17: 08
      +4
      It is unlikely that it will be possible to blame here on gouging. All the same, Moscow Region is not civil aviation with stripper cadets.
    4. kapitan92
      kapitan92 6 March 2018 17: 10
      +9
      The kingdom of heaven to the lost! Condolences to family and friends.
    5. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 6 March 2018 17: 36
      +13
      Losses of the military aviation of the Russian Federation in 2017:
      MiG – 31 - 1
      MiG – 29kub - 1
      An – 26 - 1
      Tu – 22M3 - 1
      Yak – 130 - 1
      Su – 24M - 1
      Only 6 units.

      Losses of the U.S. Military Aviation in 2017:
      T – 38 - 1
      T – 45 - 2
      A – 29 - 1
      U – 28 - 1
      F – 16 - 3
      F – 5 - 1
      Su – 27 - 1
      F – 18 - 1
      A – 10 - 2
      V – 22 - 3
      UH – 60 - 6
      CH – 3 - 2
      MH – 47 - 1
      C – 130 - 1
      C – 2 - 1
      UAV - 4
      Only 31 units. (including 4 strike UAVs)
      1. Meliodous
        Meliodous 6 March 2018 17: 46
        +10
        And are the clock data attached to these numbers? They stopuds fly more often, therefore they fight more often.
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 6 March 2018 18: 15
          +5
          Below answered, already two years, each unit is smaller than ours. But due to the larger number of units than ours, the total number of hours is greater.
          1. Town Hall
            Town Hall 6 March 2018 19: 10
            +1
            The Russian Ministry of Defense confirmed that the Mi-06.10.2017 helicopter was lost in Hama on 28/XNUMX/XNUMX. Somewhat earlier, militants said they shot down a Russian helicopter
            According to the Ministry of Defense, the car made a hard landing for technical reasons. The crew survived and was evacuated.


            On December 31, 2017, the Mi-24 combat helicopter of the Russian Aerospace Forces crashed 15 km from the Ham airport in Syria. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, both pilots died as a result of a hard landing. The helicopter's flight technician was injured and was quickly evacuated by a search and rescue team to the Khmeimim airfield, where he received the necessary medical assistance. The Russian military department reported that the cause of the disaster was a technical malfunction, “there was no fire impact on the Mi-24


            2 Yak-130 in 1 day in June, landing on the "belly". With them what?
            1. Lord of the Sith
              Lord of the Sith 6 March 2018 19: 20
              +3
              In the internet, all these breakdowns are. Look and Yak-130
              1. Town Hall
                Town Hall 6 March 2018 19: 33
                +2
                There are no helicopters in your lists. And the Americans have counted. The list is unreliable
                1. Lord of the Sith
                  Lord of the Sith 6 March 2018 20: 37
                  0
                  Invalid or incomplete?
                  1. Town Hall
                    Town Hall 6 March 2018 21: 09
                    +1
                    When comparative statistics are incomplete, they are unreliable
                    1. purple
                      purple 6 March 2018 21: 24
                      +1
                      Quote: Town Hall
                      When comparative statistics are incomplete, they are unreliable


                      If you are unable to subtract addition, simple arithmetic functions ... then this is generally ... well, you understand
      2. Archivist Vasya
        Archivist Vasya 6 March 2018 17: 48
        +1
        Rather, see% of the total. So the Americans and planes / helicopters / drones will have more.
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 6 March 2018 18: 13
          +4
          True, but last year, raid was reduced by an average of 200 hours per unit.
      3. Kent0001
        Kent0001 6 March 2018 18: 17
        +3
        So they fly 10 times more hours. If we had flown so much, it’s scary to think what it would be.
        1. Avis-bis
          Avis-bis 6 March 2018 19: 04
          +5
          Quote: Kent0001
          So they fly 10 times more hours. If we had flown so much, it’s scary to think what it would be.

          It would be better than now. The more work (if without fanaticism, of course), the higher the training of personnel.
      4. Uryukc
        Uryukc 6 March 2018 18: 29
        0
        Vladyka, how did the Merikos manage to lose Dry 27?
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 6 March 2018 18: 35
          +6
          So even VO published this news. Well, they are buying Soviet planes to hone training with a possible enemy. In my opinion, purchased from Ukraine.
      5. Falcond
        Falcond 6 March 2018 18: 47
        +2
        This is what achievement of domestic aviation do you want to boast ??? Not appropriate! Or are you happy when your neighbor’s cow died more ???
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        1. Town Hall
          Town Hall 6 March 2018 18: 55
          +2
          Quote: GSVG 86-88
          SU-33 with Kuzi is still a plus.



          This statistic is not credible
      7. GSVG 86-88
        GSVG 86-88 6 March 2018 18: 51
        +1
        Another Su-33 with Kuzi.
      8. Town Hall
        Town Hall 6 March 2018 18: 54
        +3
        In the RF Armed Forces there were no helicopter losses in 2017?
      9. KonoGon
        KonoGon 6 March 2018 19: 17
        +1
        Only 6 units.
        And in Homs, a drone shot down
      10. woron333444
        woron333444 6 March 2018 19: 57
        +1
        It’s Putin's fault that Americans are more likely to fall
      11. SK70
        SK70 6 March 2018 20: 54
        0
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Losses of the military aviation of the Russian Federation in 2017:
        MiG – 31 - 1
        MiG – 29kub - 1
        An – 26 - 1
        Tu – 22M3 - 1
        Yak – 130 - 1
        Su – 24M - 1
        Only 6 units.

        Losses of the U.S. Military Aviation in 2017:
        T – 38 - 1
        T – 45 - 2
        A – 29 - 1
        U – 28 - 1
        F – 16 - 3
        F – 5 - 1
        Su – 27 - 1
        F – 18 - 1
        A – 10 - 2
        V – 22 - 3
        UH – 60 - 6
        CH – 3 - 2
        MH – 47 - 1
        C – 130 - 1
        C – 2 - 1
        UAV - 4
        Only 31 units. (including 4 strike UAVs)

        And as a percentage of the amount, these statistics will be more accurate.
      12. shura7782
        shura7782 6 March 2018 22: 18
        0
        The comparison is not correct. Different weight categories. If we compare the non-combat losses of military aircraft of the times of the USSR and the USA per year, then they are approximately the same. Our losses per year, in terms of the number of aircraft and drugs, are approximately an air regiment.
    6. Artek
      Artek 6 March 2018 17: 39
      +11
      Russia took the lead in the number of air crashes

      The largest catastrophes of Russian passenger aircraft No. Airplane Year and crash site Number of fatalities Number of survivors 1 Airbus A310-324 2006, Irkutsk airport (outside the runway) 125 people 78 people 2 Tu-154M 2006, in Ukraine , near Donetsk 170 people - 3 Boeing 737-505 2008, the border of the Sverdlovsk and Industrial regions of Perm 88 people - 4 Boeing 737-500 2013, Kazan International Airport 50 people - 5 Airbus A321-231 2015, Sinai Peninsula 224 people - - Read more on FB.ru: http://fb.ru/article/228004/statistika-krusheniy-
      samoletov-v-rossii-za-let


      - this is despite the fact that Russia is by no means in the first places in the number of passenger traffic. That is, our passenger planes fly less often, they fight more often. And there are such “investigations” when in 154, with our military and Aleksandrov’s ensemble, it fell apart over Black by the sea, but the investigation found out the pilot’s errors, it just causes not just bewilderment, but already other feelings.
      Somehow too often we began to fall. It is necessary to change something and start from above.
      1. Artek
        Artek 6 March 2018 17: 42
        +1
        maybe it's time to start dropping American planes?
        1. Falcond
          Falcond 6 March 2018 18: 50
          +3
          For such comments you need to trim! Keep quiet
          1. Artek
            Artek 6 March 2018 20: 58
            +1
            Quote: FalconD
            For such comments you need to trim! Keep quiet


            are you going to level your aunt?
      2. Ncplc
        Ncplc 6 March 2018 17: 50
        +12
        The weather here today is terrible, there is a strong hot wind from the desert (hamsin) with sand blowing no visibility, so there could be a micro rush of the downward flow, And you do not have to blame the equipment or the crew immediately. My condolences.
        1. Avis-bis
          Avis-bis 6 March 2018 18: 22
          +6
          Quote: Ncplc
          The weather here is terrible today, a strong hot wind blows from the desert (hamsin) with sand, there is no visibility, so there could be a micro gust of a downward flow

          This phenomenon is quite rare. But the wind shear could well arrange this. I don’t know how at the air base, but in Latakia there was the following:
          METAR: OSLK 061400Z 16012G25KT

          Gusts of wind with a double drop in speed (from 12 knots to 25) is pretty much up to a fig. And if there’s another shift in height ...
        2. Oleg7700
          Oleg7700 6 March 2018 23: 20
          0
          Weather conditions could not be the cause of the crash of the An-26 military transport aircraft at the Khmeimim airfield, since they were simple, a source in the Russian Defense Ministry said.
          “There are no cyclones there today, in the morning there were simple weather conditions,” RIA Novosti reports his words.
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        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 6 March 2018 20: 09
          +2
          And 29000 enterprises were built, and the fact that our aircraft are almost never released, thank the USSR and the 90th - they did not create competitive products - until MC 21, Tu 154 and Tu 134 - this is ancient rubbish.
          1. Full name
            Full name 6 March 2018 21: 55
            0
            Yes, of course, the USSR needs to be thanked for the fact that we generally have aircraft construction. But at the expense of the 90s ... there was power, the direct successor of which is now existing. And the power center was not built in the 90s, and today's authorities erected a sign of gratitude to their predecessors
  2. Bronevick
    Bronevick 6 March 2018 16: 51
    +3
    Hmm, no words
  3. Aleksandr69
    Aleksandr69 6 March 2018 16: 53
    +2
    the security zone needs to be expanded. because they promised ...
  4. gig334
    gig334 6 March 2018 16: 53
    +8
    Sorry for the people, they rest in peace. And unfortunately, Russophobes are now activating and will use this catastrophe for their own purposes.
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 6 March 2018 18: 19
      +2
      Yes, we are the army of Russophobes-they will always be. We simply ruin people - that’s the problem, and this is a given.
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 6 March 2018 16: 53
    +3
    What a news... belay
    ... what the hell ... I hope the black boxes clarify the situation. what
  6. BAI
    BAI 6 March 2018 16: 53
    +2
    How is this not in time! (The death of people is always not in time, but here is the fact of the event ...).
    1. Don
      Don 6 March 2018 18: 24
      +2
      Quote: BAI
      How is this not in time! (The death of people is always not in time, but here is the fact of the event ...).

      Strange statement. What if not for the elections, then let them fall at least every day? Pressure on the Russian Federation will only increase, even after the election. In the light of recent statements by the president, he called himself a load - climb into the back. But is the government itself ready for this? I have big doubts here.
    2. Falcond
      Falcond 6 March 2018 18: 52
      0
      And when on time ??? Calm down !!!
  7. parkello
    parkello 6 March 2018 16: 54
    +8
    the eternal memory of the dead. land them rest in peace recourse
  8. GeorgeSev85
    GeorgeSev85 6 March 2018 16: 54
    +10
    32 people - This is pi ...... I have no words. Everlasting memory!!!!!
  9. Mikado
    Mikado 6 March 2018 16: 54
    +3
    Eternal memory .. Condolences to the family ...
  10. Lekxnumx
    Lekxnumx 6 March 2018 16: 55
    +10
    Condolences to the families of the dead! We will be silent for a while, then everything will be clarified.
  11. Bosch
    Bosch 6 March 2018 16: 55
    +3
    Probably shot down.
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 6 March 2018 17: 24
      +2
      Quote: Bosch
      Probably shot down.
      Laser probably technology .... what
      Everlasting memory !
  12. senima56
    senima56 6 March 2018 16: 55
    +7
    The kingdom of heaven is lost. But something tells me that we won’t know the truth.
  13. nikola1975
    nikola1975 6 March 2018 16: 55
    +8
    P..dets some !!!
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 6 March 2018 18: 20
      +1
      the same garbage, just no words ......
  14. assa67
    assa67 6 March 2018 16: 56
    +7
    yes, trouble .... the earth rest in peace .... well, are these anthos pouring like pears? is it time to abandon them? ... it was confirmed that there was no “fire impact on the plane” .. that means a technical malfunction
    1. Bronevick
      Bronevick 6 March 2018 16: 58
      +2
      What to change then? Not Soviet times, when they handed over 50 transporters a year. IL-112 will appear in the army in 5 years, and then they will be handed in 3-4 per year.
      1. assa67
        assa67 6 March 2018 17: 03
        +3
        it’s clear that so far there’s nothing to replace this junk ... where did he fly from interesting?
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    3. seal78
      seal78 6 March 2018 17: 03
      +5
      In addition to fire, there are other types of exposure. For example, a laser in the eyes, etc. It is hard to believe in a technical malfunction.
      1. assa67
        assa67 6 March 2018 17: 05
        +3
        hardly
        Quote: seal78
        For example, a laser in the eyes, etc.

        he didn’t hold out a bit, and after the attack on the base the security measures were strengthened as well as the defense radius
        1. seal78
          seal78 6 March 2018 17: 08
          +3
          Well, the plane is not a bicycle, it flies fast. The impact could be for 3-4 kilometers, and fell already at 500 meters.
          1. assa67
            assa67 6 March 2018 17: 12
            +2
            I think that it’s just a technical failure ... there is such a term "metal fatigue" - everything seems to be tight, but I stuck it with my finger, the dust remained ... and here are imported spare parts, partial service is possible ...
            Quote: Monos
            Maybe someone was hired from Antonov?
            1. seal78
              seal78 6 March 2018 17: 13
              +1
              Maybe so, I do not insist on my version, I just consider it as an option.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 6 March 2018 20: 12
                0
                You still say that the meteorite hit the plane during landing.
      2. Falcond
        Falcond 6 March 2018 18: 55
        +1
        Nonsense do not say
    4. dzvero
      dzvero 6 March 2018 17: 04
      +1
      Rest in peace...
      Regrettably, no one is safe from technical malfunctions and human errors ...
    5. Gray brother
      Gray brother 6 March 2018 17: 11
      +2
      Quote: assa67
      ..that these antoshka are strewed like pears?

      For half a century, I suppose.
      1. assa67
        assa67 6 March 2018 17: 18
        +3
        Sergei hi ... besides, probably .... another confirmation of the urgent need to acquire their own machines of this class .... moreover, a sad confirmation
  15. Yrec
    Yrec 6 March 2018 16: 56
    +1
    Bad news. Again, the planes ceased to hold in the sky.
    1. Fast_mutant
      Fast_mutant 6 March 2018 17: 13
      +2
      Quote: Yrec
      Bad news. Again, the planes ceased to hold in the sky.

      Sucks, for some reason, only ours are in the air ... The trend, however?
      But to me, it still seems that he did not fall. Dropped it. Is it really impossible to put things in order along the flight path? Not so wide a "strip" turns out ...
      1. Semen1972
        Semen1972 6 March 2018 17: 30
        +1
        Quote: Fast_mutant
        Quote: Yrec
        Bad news. Again, the planes ceased to hold in the sky.
        But to me, it still seems that he did not fall. Dropped it.

        It’s clear that they dropped it ... it’s unlikely that the lifting force rebelled and ceased to act on the wing of the aircraft of their own free will ...
  16. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 6 March 2018 16: 57
    +3
    What kind of misfortune is this, only the good mood was here on you too.
    "The cause of the crash, according to preliminary information, could be a technical malfunction," the military department said. “According to the report, there was no fire on the plane,” the RF Ministry of Defense added.
    1. Sands Careers General
      Sands Careers General 6 March 2018 17: 07
      +4
      Here is the same. But the mood towards the evening can also change, but the dead will not return.
  17. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 6 March 2018 16: 58
    +12
    Condolences to relatives and friends, the kingdom of heaven.
    What can I say, "Afghan sunset", high overload for the old man An-26 .. the airfield is small and not adapted for such intensive flights and traffic. There are mountains and a narrow strip near the coast. Eh .. how would you dissociate yourself from the Ukrainian segment of the Internet? ((
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 March 2018 20: 13
      0
      These An 26 aircraft are long-flying junk.
      1. NN52
        NN52 6 March 2018 21: 06
        +10
        Vadim237

        Two years ago he was honored to fly to An 26, the old Rostov board.
        We flew all day, with two landings ... Talked with the commander, a very reliable plane ...
        So shut your pzhl your mouth ....
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 7 March 2018 01: 31
          0
          Very reliable - how many years has it been flying? Reliable for the time being, for the time being - as today, the guys also believed in its reliability - the most sad result.
  18. smart ass
    smart ass 6 March 2018 16: 58
    +1
    No transport workers should fly until March 18, supplies only with water
  19. Gloomy
    Gloomy 6 March 2018 17: 00
    +4
    The Kingdom of heaven!
  20. 501Legion
    501Legion 6 March 2018 17: 00
    +4
    That's the news, it's a pity. mourn
  21. seal78
    seal78 6 March 2018 17: 01
    +6
    Hohlomrazi already jumping?
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 6 March 2018 17: 12
      +2
      Quote: seal78
      Hohlomrazi already jumping?

      Undoubtedly.
    2. verner1967
      verner1967 6 March 2018 18: 14
      +8
      Quote: seal78
      Hohlomrazi already jumping?

      Once we rode on their wreckage, now it's their turn to ride on our ... Vile is all.
      1. seal78
        seal78 6 March 2018 18: 41
        0
        Once we rode on their wreckage
        Who are you?
        1. verner1967
          verner1967 6 March 2018 22: 34
          +1
          Quote: seal78
          Who are you?

          Open the VO for 14 and 15 years and read the comments about the downed ukrosamoloty and helicopters, you can even make a list of commentators
    3. Falcond
      Falcond 6 March 2018 18: 57
      +1
      What kind of comment is this here ??? Uma Chamber
  22. soldier
    soldier 6 March 2018 17: 01
    +16
    Yes trouble
    Rest in peace
  23. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 6 March 2018 17: 03
    +27
    My deepest condolences to the families of the victims and to all citizens of the Russian Federation. Everlasting memory.
    1. Professor
      Professor 6 March 2018 17: 10
      +27
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      My deepest condolences to the families of the victims and to all citizens of the Russian Federation. Everlasting memory.

      join in

      The weather is bad today. Strong winds. Dust in the air ...
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 6 March 2018 17: 38
        +11
        Quote: Professor
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        My deepest condolences to the families of the victims and to all citizens of the Russian Federation. Everlasting memory.

        join in

        The weather is bad today. Strong winds. Dust in the air ...

        For sure. In the north, impenetrable dust.

        Blessed be their memory ...
        1. ADT
          ADT 6 March 2018 19: 39
          +3
          Join.
  24. Temson71
    Temson71 6 March 2018 17: 04
    +3
    Eternal memory .. Mourn.
  25. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 6 March 2018 17: 05
    +3
    Oh oh oh(((

    I can’t even find the words. Eternal memory of the dead, to identify and punish the perpetrators.
  26. MadCat
    MadCat 6 March 2018 17: 05
    0
    condolences to family and friends.
  27. seacap
    seacap 6 March 2018 17: 05
    +2
    Yes, what is going on with us, something like it's time to take a closer look at the entire BTA flight support system, something is wrong there.
  28. Vita vko
    Vita vko 6 March 2018 17: 06
    +2
    Suspiciously, a crash distance of 500 m to the strip. Very similar to a standard MANPADS shot at maximum range. Let's see the results of the investigation.
  29. Maalkavianin
    Maalkavianin 6 March 2018 17: 06
    +1
    Downed scum.
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 6 March 2018 18: 58
      0
      Have you checked it?
      1. Maalkavianin
        Maalkavianin 7 March 2018 09: 11
        0
        There was a video where the churkobesy screaming alah-akbar, shooting the moment when something flashed on the plane. Therefore, I think that they knocked out.
  30. Awaz
    Awaz 6 March 2018 17: 08
    +4
    some shizdets ... the junk begins to crumble. And if you do not take measures, it will be even worse ... Bravure statements about plans, especially do not correct the situation. In the light of recent events, this is a serious blow to the reputation of both the Russian Federation and the RF Armed Forces and the president too. And you have to do something for a long time ..
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 6 March 2018 17: 33
      +1
      Quote: AwaZ
      some shizdets ... the junk begins to crumble.

      Do you think it collapsed into the air because it rusted through? .. Then the technicians must be shot, according to the law of wartime, for sabotage .. is it possible to let out rusty planes on a flight ????
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 6 March 2018 17: 56
        +1
        Quote: Semen1972
        Do you think it collapsed into the air because it rusted through? .. Then the technicians must be shot, according to the law of wartime, for sabotage .. is it possible to let out rusty planes on a flight ????

        How bloodthirsty you are, you would have to shoot everything. On the plane there are places where it is impossible to get close without dismantling it. I remember how we discovered the corrosion of the Tu-95 center section only when they were cut into metal.
        1. verner1967
          verner1967 6 March 2018 18: 18
          +1
          Quote: Piramidon
          How bloodthirsty you are, you would have to shoot everything.

          Stalin's upbringing ... in the 71st, the brand-new An-10 fell apart, and a year later another one, due to design flaws, apparently, Antonov had to be shot then.
          1. Avis-bis
            Avis-bis 6 March 2018 19: 55
            +4
            Quote: verner1967
            The An-10 fell apart, and after another year, due to design flaws, apparently, Antonov needed to be shot even then.

            Antonov - the best aircraft designer of the post-war Union; shares this pedestal with Ilyushin. An-10s fell not due to design flaws, but because of the wrong material (this is not a design). Despite the fact that the twin sister of the An-10th flies so far. Yes, with overlays on the side members, but it flies. If it weren’t for the IL-18th at that time, the An-10 would still fly. And the wings fell off and the state’s counterparts An-10 / Il-18.
            1. verner1967
              verner1967 7 March 2018 17: 40
              0
              Quote: Avis-bis
              but because of the wrong material

              But isn’t this the designer calculating the loads? In conclusion, it was written "design flaws" or something like that.
              1. Avis-bis
                Avis-bis 7 March 2018 17: 56
                +4
                Quote: verner1967
                Quote: Avis-bis
                but because of the wrong material

                But isn’t this the designer calculating the loads?

                Yes and no. But no more. An aircraft designer cannot be an absolute specialist in everything. There are specialized research institutes, one of which is developing new alloys. And this research institute gives out some characteristics of this alloy. Aircraft designer, not being a metallurgist and chemist, may not believe them (and use proven alloys), may believe (and use a new duralumin).
                Well, and then it may turn out that the new alloy under specific conditions (which could very well be simulated by metallurgists) of the aircraft gives fatigue cracks faster than everyone expected. This happened with the An-10. He, like any civilian aircraft, was operated very intensively, unlike his military brother An-12, who flew relatively rarely. Here is the tragic fate of those two (EMNIP) An-10s and helped the An-12s stay in the sky - the spars strengthened, they replaced something and the plane still flies.
                If the An-10th had no full analogue in the person of the Il-18th, the An-10 would still fly.
                1. verner1967
                  verner1967 7 March 2018 18: 01
                  0
                  Quote: Avis-bis
                  An aircraft designer cannot be an absolute specialist in everything.

                  Absolute not, but then he is general.
                  1. Avis-bis
                    Avis-bis 7 March 2018 18: 06
                    +4
                    Quote: verner1967

                    Absolute not, but then he is general.

                    And, nevertheless ... Of course, he is the first to be honored and he is also “extreme” during dismantling. He is responsible for everything. But there are limits to the applicability of this principle.
                    1. verner1967
                      verner1967 7 March 2018 18: 35
                      0
                      Quote: Avis-bis
                      And yet...

                      listen, don’t turn around like a pan, the metal could not withstand the calculated overloads “early tired” is a design flaw. Fact! And put on this point. If you want to argue, then questions to the state commission.
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          2. shura7782
            shura7782 7 March 2018 11: 41
            0
            Quote: verner1967
            Quote: Piramidon
            How bloodthirsty you are, you would have to shoot everything.

            Stalin's upbringing ... Antonov still had to be shot.

            It can be seen that about education is very doubtful, and the conclusion is not worthy of the Air Force officer.
            1. verner1967
              verner1967 7 March 2018 18: 33
              0
              Quote: shura7782
              and the conclusion is not worthy of an Air Force officer.

              yeah, with sarcasm you have difficulties. I'm just not a supporter of executions, like some commies on the site.
              1. shura7782
                shura7782 7 March 2018 23: 08
                0
                Quote: verner1967
                Quote: shura7782
                and the conclusion is not worthy of an Air Force officer.

                yeah, with sarcasm you have difficulties. I'm just not a supporter of executions, like some commies on the site.

                I will know that this is such sarcasm.
                Are you by any chance not from Chelyabinsk?
      2. Awaz
        Awaz 6 March 2018 18: 11
        +1
        These planes are real junk. Watching them horribly. Back in the late 80s, I somehow had the opportunity to navigate on ANE with a ramp. Everything hangs there, blowing from all the cracks. And this was still under the USSR. What aircraft could turn into at the present time - I’m even afraid to imagine. Here stopudovo and gagging of technicians and "new approaches" to repair and maintenance by the leadership and the lack of the ability for pilots to refuse to fly on this trash. As a result of the tragedy And I'm afraid that this is only the first call. If you do nothing, it will continue further with even greater shame.
        1. Semen1972
          Semen1972 7 March 2018 12: 00
          0
          Quote: AwaZ
          Here stopudovo and gagging of technicians and "new approaches" to repair and maintenance by the leadership and the lack of the ability for pilots to refuse to fly on this trash.

          Everything is beautifully written, but it’s possible that the plane crashes because it’s old ... I can count on the fingers of one hand .. if I try hard. The fact that, flying in an A320 plane, many say that it’s junk .. the table is loose, I read this 1000 times. EVERY aircraft passes THAT according to the flight hours and replacement is often carried out by entire units and structural elements. Why are you holding Pilots for WHAT kind of money are they ready to Die, knowing that they are flying in an unprepared aircraft ???? And the second question .. HOW MANY technicians have been planted lately from the Razdolbaisky approach to repair ???? But the investigations show that it is the pilots who often bring down planes .. The last Saratov AN showed a lot.
  31. seacap
    seacap 6 March 2018 17: 08
    +1
    Quote: Crowe
    There is no war without sacrifices! The kingdom of heaven to all the lost.

    Combat losses are one thing, which, incidentally, can also be minimized, but another is due to sloppiness, low professional training and our chance.
  32. d1m1drol
    d1m1drol 6 March 2018 17: 08
    +2
    Eternal memory to the fallen. We grieve with relatives
  33. sleeve
    sleeve 6 March 2018 17: 09
    +2
    God rest ...
  34. ZHIGAN
    ZHIGAN 6 March 2018 17: 09
    +2
    How tired of reading such news ... sad rest in peace!!!
  35. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 6 March 2018 17: 11
    +5
    Condolences to relatives and friends.
    In 2016, there were 6 An-26 incidents, of which 2 were disasters. In 2017 - 5, disasters - 3. In 2018 - so far one. Maybe it's time to write it off?
    1. Bronevick
      Bronevick 6 March 2018 17: 19
      +1
      Why fly then? Do not even talk about IL-112. To serial deliveries as to China on foot.
      1. Semen1972
        Semen1972 6 March 2018 17: 42
        0
        Quote: Bronevick
        Why fly then?

        On the IL-76 ..
        1. Bronevick
          Bronevick 6 March 2018 17: 49
          +1
          Drive IL-76 to transport 26 people? yes is the IL-76 new or what? How many did IL-76-90A-3 pieces?
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 6 March 2018 20: 15
        +1
        Then it’s better on the Mi 8 with a cabin under ViP and additional fuel tanks.
  36. ZHIGAN
    ZHIGAN 6 March 2018 17: 11
    +5
    Quote: Sands Career General
    Oh oh oh(((

    I can’t even find the words. Eternal memory of the dead, to identify the perpetrators.

    Not to the topic, but we are not looking for the guilty, but switchmen sad all this is sad ...
    1. seal78
      seal78 6 March 2018 17: 16
      +1
      Do you have it in the USA?
      1. ZHIGAN
        ZHIGAN 6 March 2018 17: 24
        0
        I'm a fan of the metallurgist, not yours hi
        1. seal78
          seal78 6 March 2018 17: 32
          0
          Novokuznetsk?
  37. karish
    karish 6 March 2018 17: 12
    +9
    the deepest condolences to the families of the victims.
  38. Andrey Bars
    Andrey Bars 6 March 2018 17: 13
    +1
    Condolences to the near and dear ones, Kingdom of Heaven!
  39. anfreezer
    anfreezer 6 March 2018 17: 14
    +1
    Condolences and words of support to relatives and friends ... The second major plane crash in a month is probably no longer a coincidence and not an accident, but an indicator of major shortcomings (and I want to say complete sloppiness) in organizing the safety of air flights ...
  40. Vol4ara
    Vol4ara 6 March 2018 17: 16
    +1
    Some kind of black streak ...
  41. Sebastian Pereira
    Sebastian Pereira 6 March 2018 17: 17
    +6
    Something dofiga "non-combat" losses. Tu-154 with an ensemble, two with Kuznetsov at the bottom, Mi-24, now AN. In amers departures, I think no less, but do not fall. Apparently they are more professional chtoli?
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 6 March 2018 17: 36
      0
      Quote: Sebastian Pereira
      Apparently they are more professional chtoli?

      the level of development of our military technology is ahead of the personnel serving this equipment .. (
    2. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 6 March 2018 18: 26
      +2
      They also fall. Look at the information in the branch above, Lord Sith posted the specifics.
      It only annoys me that nothing is clear at all, and the Moscow Region already reports that there was no impact from the ground, and again the equipment failed. The next version will be the fault of the pilots. And this is their established practice. Since the fall of TU-154 with the Alexandrov ensemble on board, the conclusions of the commissions are somewhat vague.
      Here is the tragedy again. 32 people died. Remember them, men. And our deepest condolences to the family and friends.
  42. Herculesic
    Herculesic 6 March 2018 17: 19
    +3
    Earth rest in peace! God grant that this happens as rarely as possible, so that we see off and meet our citizens alive! My condolences to all the relatives, colleagues and relatives of the victims!
  43. MMX
    MMX 6 March 2018 17: 20
    +3
    It’s hard to get such news.
    Rest in peace. Relatives and friends - the strength to survive the grief ...
  44. faiver
    faiver 6 March 2018 17: 21
    +2
    land to them rest in peace
  45. Fedorov
    Fedorov 6 March 2018 17: 22
    +16
    A nightmare of some kind. Mood spoiled root. I’ll go Natsik pi.zd-and-I (I’ll call my friends, although I’m already nearby), and whether that will be. And so the day began well ... Even from Kiev right now they will catch up, so are the young Nazis, but against the blood of others. Banderlogov They softly do not really like them. In this case, we are friends in the convoy. . The cops warned. All at a glance. Tomorrow News.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 6 March 2018 17: 38
      +3
      Quote: Fedorov
      A nightmare of some kind. Mood spoiled root. I’ll go Natsik pi.zd-and-I (I’ll call my friends, although I’m already nearby), and whether that will be. And so the day began well ... Even from Kiev right now they will catch up, so are the young Nazis, but against the blood of others. Banderlogov They softly do not really like them. In this case, we are friends in the convoy. . The cops warned. All at a glance. Tomorrow News.

      I would go with you, how did they get the banderlogs soldier .... Now rejoice on their Svidomo sites .. God judge them!
      Fedorov be careful there, don’t get caught ...
      1. Fedorov
        Fedorov 6 March 2018 17: 53
        +4
        I will be quiet and neat. Everything is already a pipe covenant ....
    2. Semen1972
      Semen1972 6 March 2018 17: 44
      +2
      Who about what, and crest about fat ...
  46. K.A.S.
    K.A.S. 6 March 2018 17: 24
    +6
    Russia, in Syria, is losing more in disasters than in the fighting !!!! It's horrible!!
    rest in peace!!!

  47. sounddoc
    sounddoc 6 March 2018 17: 25
    +3
    Everlasting memory(((((((((((((((
  48. BASTA
    BASTA 6 March 2018 17: 25
    +4
    ..Let's be silent! .. Kingdom of heaven to them, rest in peace for them! Eternal memory to them!
  49. Bronevick
    Bronevick 6 March 2018 17: 25
    +6
    Most likely shot down. Not so long ago, this base was attacked by militants with mortars and drones. Although the aircraft is old, it is quite reliable and simple, it can fly a lot with idle engines, land on any platform, well, if there are no African gibbons at the controls. Many people talk about metal fatigue, so why give out a certificate of airworthiness to an airplane that can collapse in the air at any time? Condolences to the families of the victims. May the souls of the dead find peace.
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 6 March 2018 17: 48
      0
      An armored car, and you are not allowed such an idea that the Defense Ministry has practically no new transporters? And it’s not the will to use what is
      1. Bronevick
        Bronevick 6 March 2018 17: 51
        0
        Here is the result, it turns out MO is not surprised by this tragedy.
    2. garnik
      garnik 6 March 2018 19: 07
      +3
      I'm also more inclined to the version of the downing of the aircraft. Therefore, this version was immediately dismissed so as not to place a burden on the units of the Armed Forces, which are required to ensure the normal functioning of the base. And go look for the guilty one.
      It is unfortunate condolences to the near and dear ones. Earth in fluff. Ohhhh.
      In the end, someone must answer for the loss of life!
  50. newcomer
    newcomer 6 March 2018 17: 29
    +2
    The kingdom of heaven to our soldiers. deep condolences to relatives and friends. I don’t want to say anything. We are waiting for the results of the commission.