By the end of the year, the VKS of Russia will receive two newest serial Mi-28НМ

Two newest serial attack helicopters, the Mi-28HM, will be delivered to the troops by the end of 2018, Andrei Boginsky, general director of the Russian Helicopters holding company (part of Rostec), said.

Now comes the installation party, the completion of the contract - November of the current year, respectively, we are in schedule. While the contract are two cars

- he said

Mi-28HM began to create in 2009 year. The upgraded version differs significantly from the prototype. The composition of the onboard radar equipment Mi-28HM will include an innovative nashlemnaya target designation and display system.

The helicopter is equipped with the new H025 radar station, which allows for circular viewing. The machine is equipped with a new electronic warfare system. The helicopter is designed to search and destroy day and night, in simple and difficult weather conditions, low-speed air targets, tanks, armored and unarmored vehicles, as well as manpower of the enemy, reports TASS.

Comments

[Vard]

And why so little ... two pieces ... At least an order of magnitude more ... or even two ...

[Alexey RA]

Because this is not a series, but an installation party:

The Russian Ministry of Defense concluded a state contract with the Russian Helicopters holding for the production of an installation batch of new Mi-28NM helicopters. According to the terms of the contract, the first two cars will be manufactured before the end of 2018.

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[Starover_Z]

Quote: Alexey RA

Because this is not a series, but an installation party:

Yes, and probably manual assembly - 2 pieces for the whole year ...
Not even funny - just sad ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Starover_Z

Yes, and probably manual assembly - 2 pieces for the whole year ...
Not even funny - just sad ...

This is neither funny nor sad. This is a normal situation when ordering a new product.
First comes a small installation batch (produced according to the serial production documentation), which at the same time serves to establish the technical process, and to identify in the troops all the jambs of the designers and manufacturers of the future serial product. And then, according to the results of production and military operation, changes are made to the manufacturing process - and serial production can begin.
These 2 cars are not a licked serial product. In fact, these are experimental machines designed to assess the readiness of production for the production of this type of product in a given volume. Why do we need one or two orders of magnitude more experimental?

[Fedalex]

No, you are wrong, TWO cars (TWO-CARL), cannot give statistics in any way ... One friend of mine only takes it in her mouth, and the second only gives her ass — the question is, where do the children come from?

[purple]

Quote: Fedalex

No, you are wrong, TWO cars (TWO-CARL) can’t give statistics in any way ... hi One friend of mine takes only in the mouth, and the second only gives in the ass - the question is, where do the children come from?

Talk nonsense ...
This is normal 2 cars will run in compare with others ... maybe in general then they will order Ka 52

[Fedalex]

The article says about the series ... https: //topwar.ru/137333-vks-rossii-poluc
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[Alexey RA]

Quote: Fedalex

The article says about the series ...

The source of the article says precisely about the installation batch of two machines:

Now comes the installation party, the completion of the contract - November of the current year, respectively, we are in schedule. While the contract are two cars

Everything else is a creative understanding by the journalist of the source.

[Looking for]

You hear a ring, but don’t know where it is.

[Kent0001]

... maybe we work out import contracts? His as always aposlya ....

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: Vard

And why so little ... two pieces ... At least an order of magnitude more ... or even two ...

They’ll break in in Syria and if there are no more complaints, then the series will be untwisted.

[aszzz888]

Russian aerospace forces will receive before the end of the year two the latest serial Mi-28NM

Not a lot, of course.

[Lavrenti Pavlovich]

Is it a typo - two cars?

[Herculesic]

Well, yes, there are helicopters, so two sides!

[vlad66]

Why is a black spot The article said

Now there is an installation party, the completion of the contract is November of this year,

Why more then, on these pre-production tests they will work out, eliminate the identified shortcomings and then in a series.

[Fedalex]

On TWO pieces will statistics work out? Oh well...

[Looking for]

Yes, you at least understand that the product. The development of which began in 2009 is rubbish. I’m sure the KB has already tried to cram it several times at the State Tests, but the product failed, it hasn’t passed. After a couple of years, several blocks were pushed in and again tried to cram , again does not pass. This is another pushing.

[Kent0001]

Why shove the uncanny? Kamov cars are, though more expensive, but better.

[Herculesic]

To say that it is not enough is to say nothing at all - they need at least two dozen before the end of the year!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Herkulesich

To say that it is not enough is to say nothing at all - they need at least two dozen before the end of the year!

Nafig nafig. Two dozen machines of the installation lot and you will not wish the enemy - of them all the construction and production jambs still need to be caught.

[Looking for]

Remember, all the jambs come out at the factory. And state tests.

[vaaaaadik]

In the article, it’s just about serial cars that are written, and not about the installation batch

[Alexey RA]

Quote: vaaaaadik

In the article, it’s just about serial cars that are written, and not about the installation batch

Once again in the article, the journalist freely interpreted a direct and clear statement:

Now there is an installation party, the completion of the contract is November of this year., accordingly, we are in the chart. Until two cars are under contract

Moreover, “KZ” wrote about the contract for 2 cars of the installation lot.

[Piramidon]

Quote: vaaaaadik

In the article, it’s just about serial cars that are written, and not about the installation batch

For those who have not read further than the title:

Now there is an installation batch ... While two cars are under the contract

[HEATHER]

As many as TWO! Do not overwork, otherwise you will get tired.

[The Siberian barber]

Well, what can I say ??))) an amazing amount !!!))
"Ready for aggression," now ..
Why print SUCH "News" ???
Shame and disgrace! Especially against the backdrop of the president’s recent rhetoric

[Alexey RA]

Quote: The Siberian Barber

Why print SUCH "News" ???

For people who understand that the release of an installation batch of new helicopters means the last step on the road to mass production.
And also for those who know that only Mi-28NM helicopter orders are not exhausted.

[The Siberian barber]

Perhaps you are right ...) But, you will agree that the "party" is not too large, given the fact that there are Kamov, with the cars, probably not the worst ..
... And time ... Again ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: The Siberian Barber

But you must admit that the "party" is not too big

It should not be great. It is produced to assess the readiness of production for production of serial machines in order to pre-catch most of the flaws in documentation and production on a small batch, and not on all machines in the series.

[Fedalex]

Two pieces is a party ?!

[Looking for]

What kind of heresy are you writing about? What was the term “installation”? Cut yourself a batch of products can be an experimental, serial. Test. And these helicopters. Judging by everything are just experienced. These can last YEARS !! For today's Russia, it's a great way to steal budget money for YEARS and then sell junk to the army, which is any type of weapon. Developed 9 !!!!!! back.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Seeker

What kind of heresy are you writing? What is the term coined-installation? Cut yourself a batch of products can be an experimental, serial. Test.

We look at GOST 2.103-2013 and GOST R 15.301-2016:

Installation series: The first industrial batch of products manufactured during the period of production development according to the documentation of serial or mass production in order to confirm the readiness of production to produce products with established requirements and in specified volumes.

That is, these are the first cars produced by the plant to which serial production was transferred according to the serial production documentation. And not experimental production of design bureaus.
And they are needed in order to catch all the jambs that inevitably arise during the transition from pilot production to the series.

Quote: Seeker

And these helicopters. Judging by everything, are just experienced. Pre-production samples. Transferred to the Moscow Region for military tests.

The experienced OP-1 has been flying since 2016. The current pair are the first machines produced according to the documentation and in the production of the future series.

[Piramidon]

Quote: The Siberian Barber

breathtaking amount !!!

How many cars do you think should be in INSTALLATION party? The machine is new, why, without testing, dozens of them riveted?

[Bronevick]

The year has just begun. For a long time they will collect something.

[Archivist Vasya]

Yes, enough news from the Mi-28 already ... let's better about the Ka-52, it will still be more reliable.

[Looking for]

Quote: Starover_Z

Quote: Alexey RA

Because this is not a series, but an installation party:

Yes, and probably manual assembly - 2 pieces for the whole year ...
Not even funny - just sad ...

Is a mockery!!!!!

[magdama]

Why don’t you like OUR RUSSIAN ARMY, liberals? ...................... I have an incredible desire to hit you on liberalism, that is, IN THE Muzzle

[Looking for]

The development of today's largest passenger airliner A-380 was launched in 2000. And the first production A-380 was handed over to the customer in 2007. CALCULATED !!!! 7 years, TOTAL 7 years !!!!!. And here, there’s nothing to spit on and in 9 years they will give ALM 2, 2 WHOLE helicopters. And the submarine will be repaired one in 10 years, and the frigate will be lowered once every seven years, and five years later it will be completed and handed over to the fleet. , 5th column was just introduced, nothing to do?

[Bell pepper]

Late guys, late.
already screwed up this turntable, better build Ka 52, there is no sense to lose time and money for 28ku ......
Mi 28 will always be the worst VKS strike helicopter.

If Nku was good, then why did the designers think of new model improvements with the M index ??? then improved there ??
Just build the Ka 52 in your factories until the human helicopter is done. How many people died for this car.

[abc_alex]

You are simply completely unaware of the issue. I assure you that everything you wrote is far from the truth.

[Bell pepper]

I read that the experts wrote about MI 28 and Ka 52. or just look at the statistics, how many Mi 28 have independently fallen !!!
Then avionics look how it works and how it MUST work !!!! Amerikosi in the 80s had a better fire system than flying on Mi 28 in 2018 !!!

Better throw this car and improve Ka 52! UTB is a real combat helicopter! Actuation systems! Powerful gun and thrust-weight ratio !!! A huge number of missiles! Great fire guidance system! Here is a car !!

[abc_alex]

:) :) :)

It so happened that my sources of information are much closer to the real Mi-28 than your "specialists." Where did the Mi-28 fall on its own? You either write plainly, or stop this nonsense. Accidents happen in all cars.

About the Mi-28 avionics, where do you get the data from? From unknown "experts"? What is the 80s avionics better than ours? What cars and what is it better? What do you know about avionics Mi-28? :) Do you know the statistics of combat firing from the Mi-28N in Syria? You probably don’t know anything, but you’ve just seen enough of a “movie” from u-tube.

Who told you this dope about Ka-52? First, the guns of the Mi-28 and Ka-52 the same. The number of missiles in the Ka-52 is less (2 tons) than in the Mi-28 (2.3 tons). The rockets of both cars are the same. Only the "Sturm-B" sight of the Ka-52 is worse.
The thrust-weight ratio of both helicopters is the same. Two identical VK-2500 engines and almost identical take-off masses - about 12 tons.

The Ka-52 "fire guidance" system never exceeded the Milevian one, if only because the Mi-28 guidance system is capable of firing from a gun in azimuth of more than 270 degrees, and Kamov’s only along the axis of the vehicle with a slight deviation.

And yes, the Mi-28 doesn’t have ejected pilot seats. But this does not mean that there is no emergency escape system. Firing the rotor, firing the doors, all this works on the Mi-28 no worse than the Ka-52.

And finally, the Mi-28NМ significantly improved and already far superior to the Ka-25.

As I suspected, you simply do not know anything about Russian attack helicopters.