In Russia, almost everyone loves the USSR: a new American discovery

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It turns out that not only Comrade. Putin regrets the collapse of the USSR. Millions of Russian citizens also yearn for the lost Soviet country. This was written by the leading American newspaper.





The Washington Post reports: More than one Putin regrets about the collapse of the Soviet Union, many Russian citizens also want it.

At the Kaliningrad forum, reminds the edition, President Putin confessed: if he had the opportunity to change history, he would have prevented the collapse of the USSR. In Russia, many people share the opinion of the president, cites the opinion of the publication "InoTV".

Putin’s statement about the collapse of the USSR, which affected Eastern Europe and beyond, was made at a forum in Kaliningrad. The Russian leader said bluntly that he would like to prevent one event in national history, and this is “the collapse of the Soviet Union.”

"The Washington Post" notes that in the West, this idea "looks marginal." However, in Russia everything is different: there is nothing unusual in the fact that there they regret the collapse of the USSR, no. And a similar regret among Russians is “everywhere”.

The newspaper cites data from Russian sociological polls on a relevant topic. Levada Center has long been conducting polls about the attitude of Russians to this historical event (since 1992).

According to the latest data, today 58% of Russian citizens regret the collapse of the USSR. Just over 25% - no regrets.

The “pro-Soviet” sentiments of the masses reached a peak in 2000, just when Putin came to power. That year, 75% of the inhabitants of Russia “regretted” about the breakup of the Union.

Popular sentiments associated with the collapse of the USSR are not limited to purely historical regrets. Surveys of the Levada Center show that the majority of Russian citizens are distressed by the disappearance of a single economic system. The smaller group is concerned that Russia is no longer a superpower, what was the Union.

Partly massive regret about the collapse of the USSR, continues publication, can be explained by the chaos that accompanied the collapse. In 2016, Mr. Gorbachev said that the former single country had fallen victim to "betrayal." Earlier, in 2005, Vladimir Putin called the collapse of the USSR "the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century."

We note that the mood of the people who regretted the loss of the USSR to the USSR can be explained by something else. Together with the breakaway of the republics and the collapse of the communist idea in Eastern Europe, the cold war of the USSR with the West ended. It is believed that the USSR lost outright, having broken up into territorial pieces, immediately plunged into economic, social and political crises. The latter almost immediately, in the 1990s, caused melancholy for stable Soviet times, for the very "stagnation" that prevailed at comrade. Brezhnev. And this longing did not pass to this day.

No matter how hard Putin is about “stability” and right there about “stability,” there is no stability in Russia. The ruble eats up infinitely, goods are getting more expensive, citizens are getting poorer, the country has turned into a raw semi-colony of the West - the budget is almost half full of revenues associated with the sale of raw materials abroad, and it’s even scary to imagine what would happen with such a budget if oil prices fall to 20 for the barrel. The economic situation of the country is unstable, technologically, Russia lags far behind the leading countries of the West, and also lags behind the rising China. Hence the understandable national regrets about the USSR, which knew how to be self-sufficient.

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  1. +22
    5 March 2018 07: 50
    Stockholm Syndrome ... the thing is rather unpleasant ... in all its manifestations ... but for us in this case it’s good ... But to regret the USSR ... I don’t drink, I don’t smoke and I spend money only on my wife ... worked all his life ... not an entrepreneur ... built a house, a good foreign car in the yard ... my son has an apartment ... now I’m sick, treated by the way for free due to compulsory medical insurance ... and before that he traveled with his wife half the world ... Here and now you need to live, and the memories are good by the fireplace, with a glass of bourbon ...
    1. +30
      5 March 2018 07: 52
      Gorbachev is a bastard, a foreign agent is to blame am
      1. +12
        5 March 2018 08: 21
        Quote: Spartanez300
        Gorbachev is a bastard, a foreign agent is to blame

        Far from he alone.
        How many people supported the idea of ​​passing a vote of no confidence to Gorbachev?
        1. +55
          5 March 2018 09: 14
          and before that, his wife traveled half the world ...


          Eka is unseen - have traveled half the world and this is the meaning of life? Moreover, my son has an apartment. Did he build it himself? No, rather, on my father's money. And how many people in a difficult situation have you helped?

          Here and now you need to live, and the memories are good by the fireplace, with a glass of bourbon ...


          Copy life style unusual for us Russians. Do not impose it on us.

          We live here, and now. And good memories are always good and appropriate. And wisdom is transmitted from one generation to another, the next.

          Everyone has their own lifestyle, and you do not have the right to cherish what is dear to many. We have never been hostages, except in our own ambitions. Most of those who lived during the time of the GREAT COUNTRY worked honestly and lived DECENTLY.

          And it is HONOR and ADVANTAGES that many lack now. One consumerism.
          1. +3
            5 March 2018 11: 54
            Quote: Alena Frolovna
            Most of those who lived during the time of the GREAT COUNTRY worked honestly and lived DECENTLY.

            Worked honestly - YES. They lived DECENTLY - NO. The most vivid memories are the constant standing in lines for meat, or rather bones (maybe in Moscow it was different, but not ours), rotten vegetables (it was expensive to buy at the bazaar), Constant search for EVERYTHING. TV is a year in line. The apartment is a lifetime, and not the fact that you will wait. The car is 5-10 years old. Tires, battery, books, furniture - all by appointment.
            The wife of the teacher - at least one and a half bids and at night checking notebooks. I am a senior engineer at a large enterprise. It’s hard to call this life worthy. Well, the life of the nomenclature was worthy, yes.
            Quote: Alena Frolovna
            Copy life style unusual for us Russians. Do not impose it on us.

            And who is imposing it on you?

            Quote: Alena Frolovna
            And how many people in a difficult situation have you helped?

            And you?
            1. +18
              5 March 2018 12: 26
              aleks26


              We have different concepts about ADVANTAGE.

              Your concept, unfortunately, is consumer, philistine, and Msheloim.
              1. +2
                5 March 2018 12: 37
                Quote: Alena Frolovna
                We have different concepts about ADVANTAGE.

                And what do you mean by this expression - to live with dignity. Walking hungry, with a bare ass but with a proudly raised head?
            2. +20
              5 March 2018 13: 02
              well, what kind of nonsense .. what is standing in lines? What are rotten vegetables? You intentionally talk about 80 years, or rather about the restructuring already. This is not the USSR already about which we are talking.
              The wife is a teacher, well, of course, at night checking notebooks, yeah, fairy tales again) My grandfather and grandmother worked at school and as a teacher, and the head teacher and even the director, and no one worked at night with notebooks, this is a lie!
              The apartments were received quietly working at one enterprise for several years. (about 4-6) And normal apartments. So again, a lie.
              As for the TV, the car .. well, at the cottage several TVs are lying around old, it was obvious that it was not so difficult to get it) In other words, everything could be obtained in real time. The USSR had one minus, our goods (equipment) were not as comfortable and convenient as foreign ones. And most likely you say that the search for “everything” is about foreign products.
              So, that your whole post is complete nonsense. Bye.
              1. +1
                5 March 2018 13: 09
                Quote: Z_G_R
                well, what kind of nonsense .. what is standing in lines? What are rotten vegetables? You intentionally talk about 80 years, or rather about the restructuring already.

                I speak as it is! Years 1983-1992 - Brezhnev was still alive, so that perestroika has not yet begun. Rave, with a beautiful past, it looks like you.
                1. +14
                  5 March 2018 13: 50
                  aleks26 Today, 13:09 ↑ New
                  Quote: Z_G_R
                  well, what kind of nonsense .. what is standing in lines? What are rotten vegetables? You intentionally talk about 80 years, or rather about the restructuring already.
                  I speak as it is! Years 1983-1992 - Brezhnev was still alive, so that perestroika has not yet begun. Rave, with a beautiful past, it looks like you.

                  I do not want to go into your fuss, but look at the date of death of L, And, Brezhnev! For this alone, I do not want to respect you, fellow engineer!
                2. +8
                  5 March 2018 15: 56
                  I speak as it is! Years 1983-1992 - Brezhnev was still alive

                  wassat Rjunimaga! You probably secretly mined in the remote taiga? News current magpies on tail brought? 1982 - the death of Brezhny, 1986 - the beginning of perestroika. And yes, about the hunchback. On the day of Brezhny’s death, the wife said that her grandfather, somewhere in the bible, had read that after the death of that one “Michael the Marked” would appear and the world would end. Then he did not attach any importance, but at 86, at the turn of the magazine, Radio saw the very same "Tagged"! And at the end of 90-91 it finally dawned what end of the world came ..... Learn modern history .... am
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                4. +2
                  5 March 2018 20: 08
                  Native, at least look at the wiki in which year Brezhnev died .....
                5. +1
                  6 March 2018 00: 03
                  Quote: aleks26
                  I speak as it is! Years 1983-1992 - Brezhnev was still alive, so that perestroika has not yet begun.

                  This, the most ... And when did it start? laughing
              2. +4
                5 March 2018 13: 58
                I do not know where you lived. Alex26 is 100% right. I still remember when I was small in the 70s when my mother took me out of the kindergarten early so that in line for 2 people I would get more oil. And then it just got worse. Parents honestly worked at the factory, there were no benefits and benefits.
                The collapse of the Soviet Union is not very sad. It’s a pity that the Baltic States and Belarus were separated, the rest are in w ... to the very bottom.
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                2. +12
                  5 March 2018 16: 39
                  In the 73rd brother had a wedding at the place of residence of the bride - a village 50 km away. north of Sverdlovsk. I wandered into a local grocery store. The saleswoman is bored; there are even shrimps on the window. He asked for Truffle candies (which, alas, they don’t do it now) - and they are. What are the lines for oil, what are you talking about ?!
                3. +5
                  5 March 2018 22: 11
                  Quote: ratfly
                  I do not know where you lived. Alex26 is 100% right. I still remember when I was small in the 70s when my mother took me out of the kindergarten early so that in line for 2 people I would get more oil. And then it just got worse. Parents honestly worked at the factory, there were no benefits and benefits.
                  The collapse of the Soviet Union is not very sad. It’s a pity that the Baltic States and Belarus were separated, the rest are in w ... to the very bottom.


                  about the plant and payment - I studied from 75 to 78 as a turner at the school at the factory. In pre-graduation practice - 3 months, earned 140 rubles piece by piece, students were paid 30% of the earnings. Mentor 6th grade - the highest at that time, received 200 re + personal OTK + stamp for mentoring. Well and several months a month for increasing productivity - technologists of the woman made it possible to improve.
                  And also the miners - a simple surveyor, familiar - 800 r, worked in the mine in the morning, and in the evening they played dances with him - guitarists + 70 more. Those who wanted to study and work earned quite well. And the nonsense about starvation ... Yes, you can’t get around in the store, but there was meat in the market, and everything else too. Prices? My mother received 120 rubles, worked as a cleaner, paid a cooperative for 15 years. Was it hard? yes, but not hopeless about the future as many have now hi
            3. +9
              5 March 2018 15: 46
              Constant search of EVERYTHING. TV is a year in line. Apartment - all life

              Bullshit ... Constant search ... Have you even worked? Where did you get time to search for TOTAL? I got an apartment a year later .... Brad shorter .. negative
            4. +3
              5 March 2018 22: 28
              The wife of the teacher - at least one and a half bids and at night checking notebooks. I am a senior engineer at a large enterprise. It’s hard to call this life worthy. Well, the life of the nomenclature was worthy, yes.

              83rd - I am a young specialist, I arrived in the direction. They put on an extraordinary receipt of housing - for one maximum of two years. The emergency and beneficiaries were indignant, they gave my apartment away. Rights were restored through Moscow, but the train left, and ...... Gorbachev came and everything began to crumble, including housing issues. And the salary was from the very beginning 145, after two years 165, plus allowances. 5 years after the institute, he became a leading engineer. This is the career of a young specialist in the USSR. Of our group, most have become successful and almost everyone in the specialty ... And now? How many graduates work after graduation or can they generally find a job with a decent salary? Yes ... and about housing too ... for young people today - ?? preferably nematno ...
          2. +5
            5 March 2018 12: 22
            Quote: Alena Frolovna
            Alena Frolovna

            hi
            I put you my “like” in the basket (the rules do not allow more) and illustrate what was said with a poster.
          3. +1
            6 March 2018 02: 12
            Where did you see a life style unusual for us Russians? The man worked, has a family, a house, a car, traveled, his son has an apartment. Write yourself - nothing special. Did the word BURBON piss you off? Or a fireplace? What did he repent of? Normal life in humans. He correctly says - here and now you have to live. Enough for every day of their care. So that I have no questions - I also regret the collapse of the Union. So now I have to scream about it on every corner? And then, you know, any person, even the most honest and worthy, is still a consumer. Already due to the fact that a living person. You are also a consumer!
      2. +14
        5 March 2018 09: 24
        What Yeltsin did did not even dream of Gorbachev. He had one last chance when he was pulled out of Foros. Openly appeal to the people as President of the USSR, and support KG PE, transferring their authority to the committee. And none of the liberals would have even made a sound. All the "red" regions would support him. But he relied on Yeltsin, whom he hated by his natural cowardice, and became a political loser overnight.winked
      3. +1
        5 March 2018 11: 15
        Yes, foreign, right. One acquaintance of mine believes that he put his paw to the poisoning of Brezhnev.
    2. +11
      5 March 2018 07: 56
      Quote: Vard
      Stockholm Syndrome ...

      And who was hostage?
    3. +25
      5 March 2018 07: 57
      58% are those who were born and lived in the Big Country, 28% no longer know it, respectively, and there is nothing to regret. Only those like Chubais remain, they are only glad.
      1. +30
        5 March 2018 08: 08
        No matter how hard Putin is about “stability” and right there about “stability”, there is no stability in Russia.
        for sure, Oleg, the situation is ambiguous .... the military economy is growing, the civilian exists. the people are getting poorer - the oligarchy in the form of ministers and "top managers" and deputies is getting fat ... they are stealing, in billions already, but three skins are being torn from the people ... strange politics.
        1. +13
          5 March 2018 08: 25
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          No matter how hard Putin is about “stability” and right there about “stability”, there is no stability in Russia.
          for sure, Oleg, the situation is ambiguous .... the military economy is growing, the civilian exists. the people are getting poorer - the oligarchy in the form of ministers and "top managers" and deputies is getting fat ... they are stealing, in billions already, but three skins are being torn from the people ... strange politics.

          The article is objective ... Everything is so ..
        2. +3
          5 March 2018 11: 44
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          No matter how hard Putin is about “stability” and right there about “stability”, there is no stability in Russia.
          for sure, Oleg, the situation is ambiguous .... the military economy is growing, the civilian exists. the people are getting poorer - the oligarchy in the form of ministers and "top managers" and deputies is getting fat ... they are stealing, in billions already, but three skins are being torn from the people ... strange politics.


          strange politics only for those who remember the Soviet era. Two or three more generations and those who “regret” will disappear ... and after a hundred years they will tell tales about the “magical land” where everyone lived together happily, and then the evil bourgeois came, showed chewing gum, gave them dope water and coca and they lost their minds, and went to each other's faces to beat yes to argue about languages ​​- whose ancient and longerrecourse
          1. +4
            5 March 2018 14: 36
            In the sense of "in a hundred years there will be tales to tell about the" magic country ""? In a hundred years, the colonial capitalist authorities of the Russian Federation will completely erase from the people's memory all that is positive that is connected with the USSR. Well, do not cultivate, with "fairy tales about a magical land" a new conscious proletariat to its death!
            1. +2
              5 March 2018 21: 57
              Quote: DREDD
              In the sense of "in a hundred years there will be tales to tell about the" magic country ""? In a hundred years, the colonial capitalist authorities of the Russian Federation will completely erase from the people's memory all that is positive that is connected with the USSR. Well, do not cultivate, with "fairy tales about a magical land" a new conscious proletariat to its death!


              so I clarified that all this will be under the guise of a fairy tale - that is, fiction, something that cannot be in principle! request it is impossible to completely erase - they will misinterpret ... I watched the film "The Last Bogatyr" - a strange feeling of "lack of confidence" didn’t leave, that’s how the truth will be mixed up with fiction, and this is much worse ... An example is a film about Stalin. It is impossible to silence his successes, which means that you just need to expose in such a light that, in addition to laughter and disgust, his personality does not cause anything hi
          2. 0
            6 March 2018 00: 31
            What to do ... Apparently, very “clumsy” debunked “myths” about the USSR. Work harder - and before such times come. As Zoshchenko used to say ... Well, you understand me.
        3. +6
          5 March 2018 12: 03
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          No matter how hard Putin is about “stability” and right there about “stability”, there is no stability in Russia.
          for sure, Oleg, the situation is ambiguous .... the military economy is growing, the civilian exists. the people are getting poorer - the oligarchy in the form of ministers and "top managers" and deputies is getting fat ... they are stealing, in billions already, but three skins are being torn from the people ... strange politics.

          This is strange for you, add to the above exam, the "optimization" of medicine and other garbage, and everything will turn out "in the Christmas tree": after .. ten years no longer need to "win" anyone
        4. 0
          6 March 2018 08: 48
          Capitalism, it is like that.
    4. +5
      5 March 2018 08: 04
      Quote: Vard
      Here and now you need to live, and the memories are good by the fireplace, with a glass of bourbon ...

      And it would be nice to understand how children and grandchildren will live, and for this I would like to understand how our country will develop
      1. +14
        5 March 2018 08: 35
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: Vard
        Here and now you need to live, and the memories are good by the fireplace, with a glass of bourbon ...

        And it would be nice to understand how children and grandchildren will live, and for this I would like to understand how our country will develop

        And the main candidate does not even think to tell us about this .. am
        1. +11
          5 March 2018 08: 40
          Quote: Svarog
          And the main candidate does not even think to tell us about this ..

          Well, why, in his MESSAGE, he told everything beautifully, he kept silence only about HOW to achieve this with KEM, I mean in the manual. Even I understand that with the current government such goals cannot be achieved. They do not hesitate to say that Russia will begin development only in 2030 ...
          1. +11
            5 March 2018 10: 07
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: Svarog
            And the main candidate does not even think to tell us about this ..

            Well, why, in his MESSAGE, he told everything beautifully, he kept silence only about HOW to achieve this with KEM, I mean in the manual. Even I understand that with the current government such goals cannot be achieved. They do not hesitate to say that Russia will begin development only in 2030 ...

            Here it is .. He once again outlined the problems, but he was not going to report how to solve them ..
            1. +8
              5 March 2018 10: 13
              Quote: Svarog
              Here it is .. He once again outlined the problems, but he was not going to report how to solve them ..

              Is he going to solve them?
              1. +12
                5 March 2018 10: 17
                Quote: SK70
                Quote: Svarog
                Here it is .. He once again outlined the problems, but he was not going to report how to solve them ..

                Is he going to solve them?

                Apparently not ..
                1. +5
                  5 March 2018 10: 26
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Quote: SK70
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Here it is .. He once again outlined the problems, but he was not going to report how to solve them ..

                  Is he going to solve them?

                  Apparently not ..


                  deja vu?
                  1. +6
                    5 March 2018 10: 29

                    And what has been done besides the army?
                    1. +2
                      5 March 2018 11: 35
                      Quote: SK70

                      And what has been done besides the army?

                      Saved RUSSIA !!
                      This is not enough ?????
                      Listen to Yakov Kedmi at yesterday’s show at Solovyov from 46 20 -48 00 minutes: "who destroyed this country?"
                      1. +4
                        5 March 2018 11: 48
                        and now the Grudinin program
                        The first question is how much for the homeland, and what is the loot in foreign banks?
                        The second question is capitalist and for the people. And what about the people and the shares of the land? at the Ilyich state farm?
                        The third question, the main communist one, is why the Communist Party and its candidate, the multimillionaire, speaks about 1. the change of private ownership of the main means of production to the state ??? 2. On classes and class contradictions and 3. distribution of public wealth under the existing capitalist system ????
                      2. +2
                        5 March 2018 11: 48
                        Quote: To be or not to be
                        Listen to Yakov Kedmi at yesterday’s show at Solovyov from 46 20 -48 00 minutes: "who destroyed this country?"

                        20 years stolen from the country, says a Jew.
                        is it from 1992 to 2012? Or how ?
                      3. +8
                        5 March 2018 12: 21
                        Quote: To be or not to be
                        The first question is how much for the homeland, and what is the loot in foreign banks?

                        The question is stupid, designed for people who do not bother with reasoning laughing Answer better who does not have accounts with foreign banks and what is criminal about this? Do you know how many people threw our banks?
                        Quote: To be or not to be
                        The second question is capitalist and for the people. And what about the people and the shares of the land? at the Ilyich state farm?

                        After 18 years, two offended women showed up right before the elections .. You yourself don’t seem strange .. Didn’t try to talk about it .. try .. a lot of things will become clear .. He is not a capitalist, but a socialist and a tomma is an example of his state farm.


                        Quote: To be or not to be
                        The third question, the main communist one, is why the Communist Party and its candidate, the multimillionaire, speaks about 1. the change of private ownership of the main means of production to the state ??? 2. On classes and class contradictions and 3. distribution of public wealth under the existing capitalist system ????

                        Because it’s not building communism, but socialism .. The difference is huge .. hi
                      4. +3
                        5 March 2018 12: 36
                        Quote: To be or not to be
                        Saved RUSSIA !! Is this not enough ??

                        hi
                        What do you explain to these "dejavenniks" that they may appear in associations besides de ** ma? This is the rebuke given by Patriarch Kirill to the Bulgarian forgetful "non-ladies", which is quite in unison with respect to our home-grown "dezhuvushniks".
                2. +3
                  5 March 2018 17: 15
                  Of course, he is happy with everything. laughing
        2. +1
          5 March 2018 11: 57
          Quote: Svarog
          And the main candidate does not even think to tell us about it

          Well, everything is in your hands. vote not for the main thing. Vaughn Sobchak painted everything - 100 steps to happiness. Let's build HOUSE-3.
      2. +10
        5 March 2018 11: 29
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: Vard
        Here and now you need to live, and the memories are good by the fireplace, with a glass of bourbon ...

        And it would be nice to understand how children and grandchildren will live, and for this I would like to understand how our country will develop

        This is what distinguishes modern life from life under the USSR.
        Then we could plan the future for years to come, but now we don’t know what will happen tomorrow (literally)
    5. +31
      5 March 2018 08: 22
      How did Russia live when no one traded oil and did not fall apart? winked It’s just that in the late USSR, the party zadolbal people with their lies and swagger. They no longer believed in her and wanted to get rid of her yoke. But no one suggested that the party elite would surrender the country and betray the people for personal enrichment. winked
      1. +3
        5 March 2018 17: 19
        Quote: siberalt
        How did Russia live when no one traded oil and did not fall apart? winked It’s just that in the late USSR, the party zadolbal people with their lies and swagger. They no longer believed in her and wanted to get rid of her yoke. But no one suggested that the party elite would surrender the country and betray the people for personal enrichment. winked

        You are immediately talking about the consequences, but the reason why the party is sick of it, in what? It is from ignorance of this reason and all the troubles of the "late USSR" that we disentangle.
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      5 March 2018 08: 56
      Quote: Vard
      Stockholm Syndrome ... the thing is rather unpleasant ... in all its manifestations ... but for us in this case it’s good ... But to regret the USSR ... I don’t drink, I don’t smoke and I spend money only on my wife ... worked all his life ... not an entrepreneur ... built a house, a good foreign car in the yard ... my son has an apartment ... now I’m sick, treated by the way for free due to compulsory medical insurance ... and before that he traveled with his wife half the world ... Here and now you need to live, and the memories are good by the fireplace, with a glass of bourbon ...

      Well, how many people in Russia were lucky as well as you? And this is not about loafers at all, but about citizens who have really worked all their lives.
      So do not equalize yourself and how lucky you are to be born and live in a certain place. This is not so much your concrete merit as luck. Well, again, provided that you were absolutely sincere.

      I also have everything I need, work, an apartment, a car, my family is provided with enough for life. But I personally regret the USSR. About how we lived. I also regret it because I see where our country is heading ... What kind of people are becoming. Has already become ..
      You live well today, but you have confidence that in years 15 will not break here with us? And how will your son live? Who will surround him?

      In general, you live by the principles after us even a flood and my hut on the edge.
      1. +1
        5 March 2018 09: 18
        No ... in 2015 they put something together with a group of comrades ... something in the amount of fifty pieces ... I can’t say what it decided ... but what made a significant contribution ... I think yes ... Yes, and before. .. In one of the countries is still a war criminal ...
      2. +1
        5 March 2018 10: 13
        Quote: yu-xnumx
        Here and now you need to live, and the memories are good by the fireplace, with a glass of bourbon ...


        That's what it is about .. You do not need to look for a second bottom in this phrase. Work, study and teach children the same.
      3. +2
        5 March 2018 12: 08
        But I personally regret the USSR. About how we lived. I also regret it because I see where our country is heading ... What kind of people are becoming. Has already become ..

        people are becoming more and more illiterate and uncivilized ... moreover, it is spreading from the screens - the threshold of sensitivity is lowering, documentary shots with corpses are no longer even retouched, and the reporter is struggling to show sympathy ... Children are becoming less educated, the outlook of the Soviet dvochnik and his interests were much wider than the current "average" student. In our class, thanks to the “dvoechnik” the half-class was supplied with books - he had a magnificent library, and he himself read voraciously and shared with everyone. Now there is no shortage of books - shelves are crumbling in stores, like grocery ones. But there are few buyers of books, but products ... you read the content on some - like a chemistry textbook in brief.

        What do those 58% regret? If in a word - about JUSTICE ...
      4. 0
        5 March 2018 12: 09
        Quote: yu-xnumx
        You live well today, but do you have confidence that in 15 years we will not break here?

        And what, during the time of our life in the USSR, was there a certainty that it would not blaze? Although yes, it was, but only by not knowing the real situation. Remember the year 1962, 1983. then after all, they went along the edge.
    11. FID
      +9
      5 March 2018 09: 12
      Quote: Vard
      Now I am sick, they treat by the way for free due to compulsory medical insurance ..

      How old are you? My dear opponent, I am a pensioner, they are treated "for free", due to compulsory medical insurance .... I have enough salary for 1/3 of the drugs (free, I think), but go to the hospital ....
      1. +1
        5 March 2018 09: 15
        I have cancer ... I am being treated in the Samara Oncology Center ... all medicines and procedures for compulsory medical insurance ... A person with disabilities of the second group ... 59 years old ..
        1. +5
          5 March 2018 10: 11
          Quote: Vard
          I have cancer ... I am being treated in the Samara Oncology Center ... all medicines and procedures for compulsory medical insurance ... A person with disabilities of the second group ... 59 years old ..

          Good health and if you defeated everyone, let's defeat this infection too!
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        3. +3
          5 March 2018 13: 48
          Quote: Vard
          I have cancer ... I am being treated in the Samara Oncology Center ... all medicines and procedures for compulsory medical insurance ... A person with disabilities of the second group ... 59 years old ..

          Get well.
          You're lucky. and my father has been fighting for six months already.
          77 years old. disabled.
          In Sevastopol, doctors refused to give pills. Moved to Nizhny Novgorod. There a little bit moved.
          Unsubscribing from officials is a whole mountain.
          He tried to connect the central media, there are photos and videos, no one wants to raise facts about the mess in Sevastopol’s medicine so as not to spoil the leader’s reputation.
          1. +1
            5 March 2018 14: 09
            Quote: SK70
            You're lucky. and my father has been fighting for half a year already

            Yes, we always have such a shnyaga. Grandfather an asthmatic veteran was prescribed teophedrine for free 20 pcs. for 30 days. Buy - you can’t buy, because the drug is also on sale netuti. Spin as you want. So he turned around until he died.
            1. +3
              5 March 2018 14: 19
              Quote: Vasyan1971
              Quote: SK70
              You're lucky. and my father has been fighting for half a year already

              Yes, we always have such a shnyaga. Grandfather an asthmatic veteran was prescribed teophedrine for free 20 pcs. for 30 days. Buy - you can’t buy, because the drug is also on sale netuti. Spin as you want. So he turned around until he died.

              Full jo in medicine. Although doctors are sensible so far.
        4. 0
          6 March 2018 02: 24
          Sorry. Get well!
      2. +3
        5 March 2018 10: 01
        Quote: SSI
        How old are you? My dear opponent, I am a pensioner, they are treated "for free", due to compulsory medical insurance .... I have enough salary for 1/3 of the drugs (free, I think), but go to the hospital ....

        Last spring, in March-April, 3 times he was in the hospital with renal colic. The sand poured sharply and thickly sad They didn’t take a dime. what In October, the stone was touched more seriously - 8mm and stuck. I thought I would die. They also operated for free. And 8 years ago, with the same disaster, in that hospital (7th city of Ivanovo) everything - medicines, syringes, droppers, systems for them, the operation itself - at its own expense. And fed one stewed cabbage.
    12. +4
      5 March 2018 09: 13
      I understand you. It's not about the revival of the CPSU and the Polit Bureau, headed by another senile. It's about preserving a vast country. It was possible to reform the country without these victims and wars. . Of course it's a pity. Not only Gorbachev is guilty, but the whole greedy elite.
    13. +3
      5 March 2018 10: 11
      Quote: Vard
      Stockholm Syndrome ... the thing is rather unpleasant ... in all its manifestations ... but for us in this case it’s good ... But to regret the USSR ... I don’t drink, I don’t smoke and I spend money only on my wife ... worked all his life ... not an entrepreneur ... built a house, a good foreign car in the yard ... my son has an apartment ... now I’m sick, treated by the way for free due to compulsory medical insurance ... and before that he traveled with his wife half the world ... Here and now you need to live, and the memories are good by the fireplace, with a glass of bourbon ...

      Thank you, dear. I subscribe to your words, I agree to all 100%. Russians have never lived better than they do today.
      1. +1
        5 March 2018 10: 37
        Quote: 17085
        Quote: Vard
        Stockholm Syndrome ... the thing is rather unpleasant ... in all its manifestations ... but for us in this case it’s good ... But to regret the USSR ... I don’t drink, I don’t smoke and I spend money only on my wife ... worked all his life ... not an entrepreneur ... built a house, a good foreign car in the yard ... my son has an apartment ... now I’m sick, treated by the way for free due to compulsory medical insurance ... and before that he traveled with his wife half the world ... Here and now you need to live, and the memories are good by the fireplace, with a glass of bourbon ...

        Thank you, dear. I subscribe to your words, I agree to all 100%. Russians have never lived better than they do today.

        and best of all they lived under Obama.
      2. +3
        5 March 2018 12: 30
        Quote: 17085
        Russians have never lived better than they do today.

        How is Avon ?! belay And then to whom DAM turned to her, there’s no money, but you stay there ,, ??? what Ahhh, I was probably referring to the Americans, so far I’m buying your tribesmen with your grandmothers tightly, we’ll take the population, then it’s easier for you too ... it probably happened, but I misunderstood by simplicity fool
        In general, yes, the Gusskys now live on a grand scale, they can not be compared with the times of the USSR ...
        1. 0
          5 March 2018 13: 28
          Quote: DEPHIHTO
          And then to whom DAM turned to her, there’s no money, but you stay there ,, ???

          For a response, I recommend contacting Wikipedia. If laziness, I will do the work for you:
          ““ There is no money, but you hold on ”- a short expression, derived from the phrase“ ... Indexing is nowhere. ”There is simply no money now. We will find money - we will index it. You stay here, all the best, good mood and health,” said In May 2016, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev during a visit to Crimea in response to a pensioner’s complaint about a small pension [1]. The phrase was widespread in Runet, became a catchphrase, a meme [2], a kind of expression of 2016 [3] , overgrown with a trail of emotional connotations [1] and is perceived as a socially pointed text [4]. "
          And they lived in different ways. It was worse (from childhood I remember "empty" gray pasta with margarine), but it was better (they fed a cat with fresh chicken liver. Then, by the way, they started to transfer to the cooked blue whiting.) hi
          1. +1
            5 March 2018 16: 38
            Quote: Vasyan1971
            Quote: DEPHIHTO
            And then to whom DAM turned to her, there’s no money, but you stay there ,, ???

            For a response, I recommend contacting Wikipedia. If laziness, I will do the work for you:
            ““ There is no money, but you hold on ”- a short expression, derived from the phrase“ ... Indexing is nowhere. ”There is simply no money now. We will find money - we will index it. You stay here, all the best, good mood and health,” said In May 2016, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev during a visit to Crimea in response to a pensioner’s complaint about a small pension [1]. The phrase was widespread in Runet, became a catchphrase, a meme [2], a kind of expression of 2016 [3] , overgrown with a trail of emotional connotations [1] and is perceived as a socially pointed text [4]. "
            And they lived in different ways. It was worse (from childhood I remember "empty" gray pasta with margarine), but it was better (they fed a cat with fresh chicken liver. Then, by the way, they started to transfer to the cooked blue whiting.) hi

            I don’t need Vicki yet, but you probably need it now. hi Crimea, is it Russia (read Russian)? Pensioners in the Crimea Russian? And why are these Russian pensioners complaining about poor pensions (and not only in Crimea)? Why is there even no money for penny indexations for Russian pensioners (I am generally silent about decent pensions)? And the money is just before the election, again at penny nishtyaki. And in my opponent’s opinion the Russians are now living better than ever. Only he is silent what kind of Russians it is. If you arrived somewhere, it means it has disappeared somewhere. And not these ...
            In the days of the USSR, they really lived in different ways. And large party bonuses lived well, starting from the Brezhnev era. But they didn’t scare the people as much as the current authorities, they did not come up with new requisitions, excises, taxes, laws for the elect. a powerful OBHSS structure worked and confiscation of property for robbers of public goods (take a look at their clients in the photo) And ordinary people did not know what inflation, unemployment, counterfeit medicines and products were (I’d better now with those gray pasta with a margarine with pleasure, poisoned ,, good ) heavy loans, pyramids, offshore, cuts, hitting, spin, kid
            scarlet everywhere and everywhere (I recalled deceived equity holders), the impunity of officials, in a word, we did not know what a complete mess and lawlessness are. Now we know and are fed up with this capitalist, “grandeur,” to the neck !!! am
          2. 0
            6 March 2018 02: 32
            Wrong phrase, yes. But not even that. The first part is no money - the answer is to a pensioner from the Crimea, to the question why they are not indexed by pensions, as in Russia. Medvedev replied that they are not indexing in Russia either, there is no money. But from next year they will index everywhere. And the second part is the answer to a woman from the Donbass that they are being bombarded, that her son has died, it’s hard to live.
      3. +2
        5 March 2018 16: 13
        Thank you, dear. I subscribe to your words, I agree to all 100%. Russians have never lived better than they do today.

        Russians (80%) have never lived so badly as they do today. You probably lose a lot if Putin is not elected? Clearly ...
      4. Alf
        0
        5 March 2018 22: 10
        Quote: 17085
        Russians have never lived better than they do today.

    14. +1
      5 March 2018 10: 15
      I would say otherwise. In Russia, every citizen will find something good that was in the USSR.
    15. +2
      5 March 2018 11: 10
      Quote: Vard
      Stockholm Syndrome ... the thing is rather unpleasant ... in all its manifestations ... but for us in this case it’s good ... But to regret the USSR ... I don’t drink, I don’t smoke and I spend money only on my wife ... worked all his life ... not an entrepreneur ... built a house, a good foreign car in the yard ... my son has an apartment ... now I’m sick, treated by the way for free due to compulsory medical insurance ... and before that he traveled with his wife half the world ... Here and now you need to live, and the memories are good by the fireplace, with a glass of bourbon ...

      Ehhh ... earlier and the trees were higher, the water is sweeter, the sun was shining brighter and the grass was greener.
    16. +5
      5 March 2018 15: 43
      treated by the way for free due to compulsory medical insurance ... and before that, my wife and I traveled half the world ...

      My neighbor also has compulsory medical insurance, but the operation to remove her bile resulted in 9000 rubles! "Nine thousand rubles" - in words for the dull! And what interesting shishi traveled half the world? Foreign car he .... Some kind of odor unpleasant ... negative
      1. +4
        5 March 2018 17: 37
        Quote: StWahmister
        treated by the way for free due to compulsory medical insurance ... and before that, my wife and I traveled half the world ...

        My neighbor also has compulsory medical insurance, but the operation to remove her bile resulted in 9000 rubles! "Nine thousand rubles" - in words for the dull! And what interesting shishi traveled half the world? Foreign car he .... Some kind of odor unpleasant ... negative

        The former mother-in-law had colon cancer, an urgent operation was needed, the doctor said .. in order of priority ... two months in turn .. or 10 thousand rubles .. This is such free medicine today.
    17. 0
      6 March 2018 00: 09
      Mouse. Quietly, behind the sofa.
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  3. +4
    5 March 2018 07: 51
    You read, sometimes, the American news and think that Hollywood vysery, like “Mars attacks”, is a documentary with a fictitious ending, to disguise that all the same people won, but in fact the Martians defeated and captured the United States, sending all the adequate Americans to yourself on the red planet ... laughing
    1. +3
      5 March 2018 08: 02
      Quote: Finches
      in fact, the Martians defeated and captured the United States, sending all adequate Americans to their red planet ...

      And how many were there, adequate? On a space shuttle bus, even typed?
      1. +6
        5 March 2018 08: 27
        hi
        Quote: Separ DNR
        On a space shuttle bus, even typed?

        What is it: the carrier refuses to go until at least a third of the seats are full. wink
        1. +3
          5 March 2018 08: 30
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          What is it: the carrier refuses to go until at least a third of the seats are full.

          In fact, it means filling ... It's hard for them, the Americans.
          Hello Pasha ! soldier
          1. +7
            5 March 2018 08: 31
            Quote: Separ DNR
            It’s hard for them Americans.

            Seryoga, it’s hard for those who have something to think about. And for those who have brainwashed completely easy.
  4. +5
    5 March 2018 07: 53
    Rather, they are homesick in the former republics, they were well fed, especially Georgia and the Baltic states). And now the Baltic states are forced by stoves in places to sink in apartment buildings, as in some murdered Bulgaria and Romania .... there are pictures of this on the Internet, a sad sight.
    1. +3
      5 March 2018 08: 50
      And you don’t think that to regret the collapse of the USSR and that Russia left people in a foreign land without support are two different things?
      Stop lying! in the Baltic countries people live not badly. It can be judged that the number of immigrants to Russia is not enough from there! Mostly they leave for the backward Europe of the USA !, but not to Russia!
      There are problems everywhere, judging by the Internet so in Russia instead of a toilet there is a hole in the ground! A sad sight! Unmatched go down!
      1. +1
        5 March 2018 09: 17
        are you next to the potbelly stove hugging there indignant?) laughing
        1. 0
          5 March 2018 12: 38
          and you are sitting on a hole in the ground writing about how in the Baltic states they are heated with potbelly stoves?) laughing
          stop writing people live differently everywhere! nen become like ukrosi !!!
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  5. +19
    5 March 2018 07: 54
    I regret the collapse of the Union - yes! Want to reanimate him? No! I personally am for a new version of the socialist Union - more adapted to historical realities and resistant to any external and internal encroachments. I know a lot of Russian people who support me in this.
    1. +3
      5 March 2018 08: 00
      Alex-a832 Today, 07:54 AM New
      I regret the collapse of the Union - yes! Want to reanimate him? No! I personally am for a new version of the socialist Union - more adapted to historical realities and resistant to any external and internal encroachments. I know a lot of Russian people who support me in this.

      Someone from the wise said that you can’t enter .... and so on. Yes, you're right, you need to build a new one, given the old.
      1. +7
        5 March 2018 08: 11
        Quote: dog breeder
        Someone from the wise said that you can’t enter .... and so on. Yes, you're right, you need to build a new one, given the old.

        this is called evolution ... but with us, something is wrong ... looking at young people (not on TV on the first channel), but on the street it’s sad somehow ...
        1. +2
          5 March 2018 10: 54
          Andrey Yurievich Today, 08:11 ↑ New
          Quote: dog breeder
          Someone from the wise said that you can’t enter .... and so on. Yes, you're right, you need to build a new one, given the old.
          this is called evolution ... but with us, something is wrong ... looking at young people (not on TV on the first channel), but on the street it’s sad somehow ...

          I look at the friends of my children. Many have a family. They go to rocking chairs, they all graduated from higher. Many have served. Almost no one smokes, they say, is not comparable with the way of life. It is not pleasant when a person stinks of tobacco or alcohol. Everyone has a car, and without the help of their parents. Mortgage apartments, that's true. But in my time, my own apartment was not a dream come true.
          I wonder what streets are you looking at?
          1. +2
            5 March 2018 12: 54
            these are the children of aliigarchs. thieves of pro-Putin bedding or traders !!! in the country of 20 million beggars which cars and sports !!
            a real Russian must suffer, dream that someone will give him work. and makes a small rent !!! But he himself will not do anything because there is a state for this. and the current state, the enemy of the common man, therefore remains to suffer? and watch the street vigilantly looking for several drunks. so that on this basis to conclude that the country is bad and all the poor! Outpouring the feverishness of the soul on VO, where most of them can sympathize!
            I often give you an example, the acquaintance of my acquaintances, 19 years of age helping the masons during the summer, bought used 14. At 19 I didn’t even dream about a car. and now just took earned bought!
        2. +1
          5 March 2018 11: 54
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          and on the street it’s sad somehow ...

          Andrei Yurievich, in the eighties it was also sad on the street. laughing This is me about the streets of Leningrad, where I grew up. Yes Our Kolomna (historical district in the center) was tacitly divided between local gopniks into spheres of influence: Pisar, Kanonera, Devyatnashka, etc. Suppose, walking along Lermontovsky (all of his own) could go quietly, but turning to Kanonerskaya ... "options" were already possible. wassat And, since he basically didn’t consist of any parties and especially “didn’t know anyone”, he had to go on the “path of the tracker” or “St. John's wort”. This is because those young people who will not cause us sadness will not meet on the streets, because young people in business, they have no time to suffer garbage. Well, the so-called "marginal elements" have always, alas, been, are and will be. There has never been a completely “refined” society in the world. hi
      2. +6
        5 March 2018 09: 48
        The union did not fall apart. He was disbanded in Bialowieza under cognac by three well-known hmyr with the typist secretary Burbulis. winked
    2. 0
      5 March 2018 13: 28
      Quote: Alex-a832
      I regret the collapse of the Union - yes! Want to reanimate him? No! I personally am for a new version of the socialist Union - more adapted to historical realities and resistant to any external and internal encroachments. I know a lot of Russian people who support me in this.

      I support you. It is important who "steers" the country. And you can destroy any system.
  6. +4
    5 March 2018 07: 58
    Technologically, Russia is not far behind other countries. At least these gaps are not critical and can be overcome.
    By the way, Putin voiced in his message all those moments that I and other commentators constantly pointed out:
    1) Thoughtless optimization of health and education
    2) The problem of small cities - no employment, no cultural and other components
    3) Lack of roads and air connections
    4) The need for development of the territory
    5) Indicate to the West and others in a harsh form that it is never possible to conquer Russia by military means.
    True, when I wrote about this earlier, I was called the rocker of a boat and an agent of the State Department.
    1. +11
      5 March 2018 08: 32
      Quote: Altona
      By the way, Putin voiced all those moments in his message


      Putin has been voicing everything for 20 years now, when will he do it?
      1) Thoughtless optimization of health and education
      Well thoughtless so what? Who is responsible? Captain obvious! am
    2. +1
      5 March 2018 16: 20
      By the way, Putin voiced in his message all those moments that I and other commentators constantly pointed out:
      1) Thoughtless optimization of health and education

      He has been voicing these moments for 18 years ...
  7. +21
    5 March 2018 08: 00
    The whole world regrets about the USSR
    Even if someone doesn’t admit it somewhere
    1. +3
      5 March 2018 09: 18
      especially half of Africa ... half the world fed the USSR, of course regret.
  8. +9
    5 March 2018 08: 03
    Love, the Komsomol and spring, oh, there is something to remember. smile
    1. +14
      5 March 2018 08: 40
      I want back to the USSR
      Where was the sundae of seven cents,
      Where were happy, without measures
      In the country of earflaps, quilted jackets,
      Where everyone lived as one family
      A great nuclear power
      And with banners in the spring,
      They walked on the demonstrations!
      I want back to the USSR
      Where is the gas-water, with double syrup,
      Where is grandfather Mityai, a pensioner,
      Taught us the first three chords
      Where after school, around the corner,
      We pulled the "Accept" we, in a circle,
      And the ubiquitous manager,
      He often dragged us by the ear!
      I want back to the USSR
      And nothing, there’s no such thing
      To a country where every pioneer
      Gaidara also knew Mikhalkov,
      Where did they dig the Belomorkanal,
      And BAM was considered the construction site of the century,
      There, as Stakhanov bequeathed,
      For a year, they gave a five-year plan!
      I want back to the USSR
      Where else is mom young
      Whisk meringue with a whisk
      And the table in the living room is laying
      Where instead of "Dandy" - towns,
      And instead of “Snickers” - “Alenka”,
      Where were the "Dances" before dawn
      And Don Quixote on the bookshelf!
      I want back to the USSR
      Where we all come from
      Where Gagarina as an example,
      All the time, the school set us,
      Where Vysotsky and Shukshin live
      Where they laugh at Mavrikeevna ...
      Yes, in general, you never know the reasons,
      To want to go back there!
      1. BAI
        +3
        5 March 2018 08: 47
        I understand that for rhyme
        Where was the sundae of seven cents,
        but the ice cream was more expensive. 7 kopecks - ice cream "Milk".
        1. +4
          5 March 2018 08: 58
          love
          Quote: BAI
          but the ice cream was more expensive. 7 kopecks - ice cream "Milk".

          But essentially true?
        2. +4
          5 March 2018 09: 21
          Quote: BAI
          I understand that for rhyme
          Where was the sundae of seven cents,
          but the ice cream was more expensive. 7 kopecks - ice cream "Milk".

          Well, not rhymes for the sake of justice, "Milk" cost 10 kopecks, "Creamy" -13, and 7kop cost "Fruit" ...
          With "filler" -15 kopecks, "Ice cream" - 20, Eskimo - 22 kopecks.
          1. 0
            5 March 2018 11: 38
            And there was Tomato (!!!) for 5 kopecks. The truth, an exceptional dirty trick ...
        3. 0
          5 March 2018 09: 26
          Sundae in chocolate cost eleven cents ...
          1. +2
            5 March 2018 09: 36
            Quote: Vard
            Sundae in chocolate cost eleven cents ...


            Yes ? Exactly belay ??
            A fat in chocolate?
        4. 0
          5 March 2018 13: 33
          Quote: BAI
          I understand that for rhyme
          Where was the sundae of seven cents,
          but the ice cream was more expensive. 7 kopecks - ice cream "Milk".

          Eh ... not romantic you. It’s hard for you, pedants ...
      2. +2
        5 March 2018 08: 50
        Quote: Masya Masya
        I want back to the USSR
        Where was the ice cream for seven cents

        Alas, there is no turning back ...
        Of course, one can progressively move towards the upheavals of the revolution and the civil war of all against all. But it's such a bloodthirst ...
        Yes, and the West, then, at the beginning of the XXth century, who missed the moment to destroy Russia, at the present stage will not miss it.
        So we don’t need shocks.

        A "Sundae", cost 20 cents wink love lol
        1. +6
          5 March 2018 08: 59
          love
          Quote: Separ DNR
          So we don’t need shocks.

          So, nostalgia ... for irrevocably departed ...wink
          1. +3
            5 March 2018 09: 04
            Quote: Masya Masya
            So, nostalgia ...

            You have every right to great weaknesses Yes
            I, too, am sinful ... Doesn’t mind the fact that Russia could(and probably should) return to the borders of the USSR feel

            At least for the most part Yes
          2. +6
            5 March 2018 09: 15
            Quote: Masya Masya
            love
            Quote: Separ DNR
            So we don’t need shocks.

            So, nostalgia ... for irrevocably departed ...wink

            Marina, hello! hi Poems are good and the topic love
            1. +3
              5 March 2018 09: 37
              Hello, Vitaliy! love
              Quote: ul_vitalii
              Poems are good and the topic

              Not mine, hidden in the open spaces of tyrnet ... feel
        2. 0
          5 March 2018 12: 32
          And shocks and "blood-thirsty ears" are the necessary components of a return to social justice? For example: whom and how much do you need to cut to start teaching children at school?
  9. +6
    5 March 2018 08: 18
    Quote: Spartanez300
    Gorbachev is a bastard, a foreign agent is to blame am

    I remember how he did not get out from abroad and dragged Raisa with him. Everything liberated before the Americans, and Raisa flew to expensive shops and exhibitions, and praised their market policy, and lifestyle in Europe and America .. All this was shown on TV in the 80s. Here they are the main traitors of the Union!
  10. HAM
    +1
    5 March 2018 08: 20
    : The Soviet Union, as you know, just lived for commodity dollars. The Cold War is going on with much greater force than in the 80s. For technological lag, we are reaping the fruits of the experiments of the "democrats" of the perestroika with education and science.
    That's just modern Russia has adopted the bad from the USSR - to forgive debts, well, nothing taught the experience of the USSR.
    Freeloaders always mow down as friends .. and if someone promises more, they will immediately become "not brothers" ....
    1. +3
      5 March 2018 08: 31
      I agree! An example of Mongolia. Russia forgave them their Soviet debts, and with once they became friends of America, having previously turned their backs on Russia. request Yes
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  12. +3
    5 March 2018 08: 40
    Quote: ul_vitalii
    Love, the Komsomol and spring, oh, there is something to remember. smile

    And why the Komsomol and the pioneer in history removed. After all, this movement developed only patriotism! And why do we need these Western values, because of them we have forgotten our values ​​?! Is it not time for us to recall what is inherent only to us Russians. what Yes
  13. BAI
    +1
    5 March 2018 08: 45
    Mikhail Gorbachev said that the former united country fell victim to “betrayal”

    So he himself is the first traitor.
  14. +2
    5 March 2018 08: 46
    understandable popular regrets about the USSR, which knew how to be self-sufficient.

    Nobody will understand this, who did not find it. One can be proud of, and laugh at a lot.
    The Buran drone, for example, put them in a series, hulls, and there were already four of them there, I saw it myself., The roof collapsed. Humpbacked greetings from am really waiting.
    But to make a normal vacuum cleaner is a problem. It’s easy to keep a tank. A washing machine sad
    It's just that the Ministry of Industry did not have such a task.
    I, as an engineer, begged the authorities - give normal components, the answer is no - they go to the defense industry. sad Then everything changed, as did life in the Army.
  15. 0
    5 March 2018 08: 46
    The Chinese also love the USSR
  16. +7
    5 March 2018 08: 49
    Quote: Svarog
    Putin has been voicing everything for 20 years now, when will he do it?
    1) Thoughtless optimization of health and education
    Well thoughtless so what? Who is responsible? Captain obvious!

    --------------------------------
    Therefore, I have no particular desire to vote for him. Because in the bourgeois system there is only a declaration of good wishes with the complete optionalness of their fulfillment. Trump also promised one thing before the election, but it turned out completely different. Therefore, it is necessary to return to the Soviet system, where the government must convert its promises into real execution with strict responsibility. The country will not endure new liberties of the nobility. And Putin himself, like Stalin, said that it was necessary to grow both in technology and in real GDP per capita, and in wages. But how can this be realized in a bourgeois system? It can only put pressure on people by the power, by the growth of their self-consciousness, to realize themselves as a subject of power, and not as an “Indian” and not as a “tenant,” to demand from the authorities their rights.
  17. +2
    5 March 2018 08: 52
    ... the country has turned into a raw material semi-colony of the West

    Is this the conclusion of The Washington Post or the author?
    If the first, then why does the "metropolis" oppose the construction of additional gas pipelines from a "semi-colony", which, it would seem, should finally turn the Russian Federation into a "colony"?
    And if this is the author’s idea, then let me add: back to the tank half-colony of Iraq, Vietnam, India, BMPshoy half-colony of SA, etc.
  18. +15
    5 March 2018 08: 57
    He’s lying like usual. Putin and his friends are all in chocolate
    1. +8
      5 March 2018 09: 14
      "What a disgusting erysipelas!" (C)
    2. +3
      5 March 2018 09: 49
      And Peter 1 had everything in chocolate and Catherine 11, Ivan the Terrible .... What country do you live in? Maybe it's worth the exit? - In New Zealand, for example, there will be less stench.
      Maybe the laurels of Suvorov-Kutuzov - Ushakov do not give you peace? Well then, Ermak - came to Siberia just like that, with nothing to do, under the sponsorship program from the tsar. Well, about all sorts of different our sailors, even more so, and there is no demand.
      1. +4
        5 March 2018 10: 01
        Citizen, you have suffered somewhere. It’s clear even from the flag)
        1. +2
          5 March 2018 16: 21
          Quote: Million
          Somewhere towards you
          To Europe. lol
  19. 0
    5 March 2018 09: 02
    Examining critically this issue, then of course, the collapse of the USSR is really a serious geopolitical loss, which caused a lot of economic and political crises. no matter what they say about who fed whom, on whose neck he sat, together 15 republics were POWER! But nothing happens just like that, and the collapse of the USSR was a consequence of the mistakes of the country's leadership + many years of purposeful work on its destruction carried out by the enemy. Many may not agree, but since the USSR was the successor to the Russian Empire (we don’t touch politics), he was also awaited by the fate of all empires, which sooner or later fall apart. This is a historical fact. The USSR could be preserved by turning it into a confederation, or by transforming it into a likeness of the current EU. In our era, no ties are as strong, not strong as economic. An example is Greece, Czech Republic and other EU countries. It seems to be independent, but what they say in Brussels is done. Because the population travels to the West to earn money, from there tourists come and so on.
  20. +2
    5 March 2018 09: 08
    What the hell?? They forgot to add "Everyone who loves the USSR for 60"
    1. +6
      5 March 2018 09: 27
      Quote: win9090
      e for nonsense ?? They forgot to add "Everyone who loves the USSR for 60"

      And how old are you, what is so sarcastic? And what do you like? Bulk and buzov?
      1. +2
        5 March 2018 09: 41
        Well, certainly not in the USSR nostalgic)
        While I'm not ready to exchange food for rockets
        1. +4
          5 March 2018 09: 59
          Quote: win9090
          While I'm not ready to exchange food for rockets

          Nobody has changed and is not going to change! And do not bzdi, you’ll get your “cookie with GMO” from nuland.
          1. 0
            5 March 2018 11: 41
            I don’t want as in union, a stew in a solid)))
        2. +1
          5 March 2018 11: 57
          Well, in this case, not good uncles from behind the hill will come very quickly and feed you “food” at the very worst.
    2. 0
      5 March 2018 13: 43
      Quote: win9090
      What the hell?? They forgot to add "Everyone who loves the USSR for 60"

      What the hell? I am 53 and I love the USSR!
  21. +4
    5 March 2018 09: 26
    Quote: Spartanez300
    Gorbachev is a bastard, a foreign agent is to blame am

    But Gorby is just a dyrap in power ... But EBN, the one who destroyed the Soviet Union, is a XNUMX% agent, so that they would not tell the kids there at the Yeltsin Center.
  22. +3
    5 March 2018 09: 28
    Strange newspaper. Reveals a fake about the USSR, and then lies about Russia ..
    Wash their mouth with soap. fool
  23. +3
    5 March 2018 09: 29
    Quote: win9090
    What the hell?? They forgot to add "Everyone who loves the USSR for 60"

    My son is 37. I am 59. Why only those over 60?
  24. +2
    5 March 2018 09: 31
    In our class, a girl weeding on a collective farm died on the field. And so it was all good ......... Fresh air, the sun, a chopper ......
    1. +2
      5 March 2018 13: 46
      Quote: Sergey D_2
      In our class, a girl weeding on a collective farm died on the field. And so it was all good ......... Fresh air, the sun, a chopper ......

      And now, right in the school of girls and boys with a knife ...
      And so, all is well ... A jamb, a little bump, a wheel ...
  25. +2
    5 March 2018 09: 39
    The most interesting thing is that those who were the most indignant about life in the USSR are now the most nostalgic about it .. My classmate (53 years old) bombarded me in the mail with reposts from the resource "Back to the USSR" .. And in social studies, he was one of those who brought the historian to white heat .. laughing
  26. +3
    5 March 2018 09: 40
    The capitalists / oligarchs "rule" us, then their children / grandchildren will rule. In this system of government and priorities, nothing else awaits us!
    And now about the main thing - Friendly friends in the foot !!! - and these are not empty words, for a start, at least stand together for your interests, and then .... not soup with a cat, but something else!
  27. +5
    5 March 2018 09: 42
    Quote: Fedorov
    But to make a normal vacuum cleaner is a problem. It’s easy to keep a tank. A washing machine

    -----------------------------
    What are you so attacked on consumer goods? The defense industry also made consumer goods. Only the print runs were small. Turntables of zero class, refrigerators 25 years of operation. China now makes vacuum cleaners and other rubbish from ABS plastic, which is also short-lived for the most part and unrepairable. And we have replaced the brushes and a new vacuum cleaner, and can also paint. I’m saving my Soviet vacuum cleaner, by the way, in case of repairs and other things, as well as Bosch, I’m cleaning my apartment.
  28. +2
    5 March 2018 09: 43
    “The Washington Post” notes that in the West such an idea “looks marginal.” This is our country, where do you come from? And why should we be interested in your opinion?
  29. +6
    5 March 2018 09: 45
    Quote: vonWolfenstein
    But nothing happens just like that, and the collapse of the USSR was a consequence of the mistakes of the country's leadership + many years of purposeful work on its destruction carried out by the enemy. Many may not agree, but since the USSR was the successor to the Russian Empire (we don’t touch politics), he was also awaited by the fate of all empires, which sooner or later fall apart.

    ---------------------------------------------
    Well hello nafig. The enemy connected to the collapse at the very end. The collapse of the USSR was provoked by party workers, a number of kgbeshnikov and other nomenclature that wanted to make public property their own personal companies and concerns.
    1. +3
      5 March 2018 19: 30
      Quote: Altona
      Well hello nafig. The enemy connected to the collapse at the very end. The collapse of the USSR was provoked by party workers, a number of kgbeshnikov and other nomenclature that wanted to make public property their own personal companies and concerns.

      And you did .. am
  30. +5
    5 March 2018 09: 45
    It’s a pity that this is just fantasy and this cannot be fulfilled, but it would be great to bring Gorbachev, Yeltsin and their entourage to court, and at the same time deprive pensions of those who, like, earned them under the Soviet Union, but he himself was taken or silently it looked. By principle, the USSR should you? Well, let it pay!! Maybe then the current voters will grow wiser and think not in the place where they are sitting, but in the place where the brains should be.
  31. +3
    5 March 2018 09: 49
    Quote: win9090
    They forgot to add "Everyone who loves the USSR for 60"

    ----------------------------
    This is not about the Suslova bans, coupled with empty shelves, it is about the collapse of the USSR was illegal, the privatization of collateral was illegal, and in general perestroika was fraud. I personally thought that the USSR was simply somehow reintegrating on a new basis, simply changing its name to the CIS. That there will be new medium-sized enterprises with better products. That will be eliminated excess military power, which eats resources. They also eliminate unprofitable enterprises with non-modern products and a dangerous environment. But in reality it turned out quite different.
  32. +1
    5 March 2018 09: 54
    Quote: Simon
    Quote: ul_vitalii
    Love, the Komsomol and spring, oh, there is something to remember. smile

    And why the Komsomol and the pioneer in history removed. After all, this movement developed only patriotism! And why do we need these Western values, because of them we have forgotten our values ​​?! Is it not time for us to recall what is inherent only to us Russians. what Yes


    Pioneer and Komsomol. , "Green Patrol", "People's Squads" - All that and the like is good when it comes from the heart and from people. And when it turns into formalism and obligation, it turns into its opposite ..

    By the way. The same thing must be done now. Swedes in a small village in which a fish processing factory closes in six months. sit in a pub and decide what to do .. themselves. And they’re not calling Putin live. You won’t get anywhere from this. Having given OUR life to the State - perish. New gentry desperately needed!

    I remember. when at the end of the 80s they gave permission for the organization of construction MZHK, it appeared - here it is light at the end of the tunnel. What an interesting life there began, before the Kastastroyka nailed everything! It was believed that the same form of collective ownership would return to the "dispossessed" state collective farms .. Fuck you. Everyone pulled and gobbled up Banderlog! negative
  33. +2
    5 March 2018 09: 59
    That Bid Luo lived in the USSR, that Bid Luo now lives. Where the shepherds drive, they wander there.
    1. 0
      5 March 2018 11: 13
      Quote: Sergey D_2
      That Bid Luo lived in the USSR, that Bid Luo now lives. Where the shepherds drive, they wander there.


      And what, you, such "white and fluffy" among "Bid la" do ?!
  34. +1
    5 March 2018 10: 00
    Quote: Oleg Tolstoy
    I remember. when at the end of the 80s they gave permission for the organization of construction MZHK, it appeared - here it is light at the end of the tunnel. What an interesting life there began, before the Kastastroyka nailed everything!

    -----------------------------------
    I consider MZHK more progressive and perfect form of housing construction. People themselves build their housing, but do not look for money for it. But now all politics is tied to maintaining bankers — mortgages, maternity capital, housing certificates, bank card salaries and other services from banks.
  35. 0
    5 March 2018 10: 04
    Quote: Masya Masya
    ...
    Where instead of "Dandy" - towns,
    And instead of “Snickers” - “Alenka”,
    Where were the "Dances" before dawn
    And Don Quixote on the bookshelf!
    I want back to the USSR
    Where we all come from
    Where Gagarina as an example,
    All the time, the school set us,
    Where Vysotsky and Shukshin live
    Where they laugh at Mavrikeevna ...
    Yes, in general, you never know the reasons,
    To want to go back there!


    By the way, the whole Pair (RO) Shenovskaya confectionery in comparison with TOE “Alenka” is now really gamut! Sweets, at least slightly closer in taste to those of Soviet, and those that were in Belarus until about the end of the 90s, today cost from 10 S and above! Samara confectionery - one of the best in the Union - gamno, Moscow. - Even more gamut, a little better in St. Petersburg, it even hurts to talk about Kiev!
    1. +1
      5 March 2018 13: 37
      Quote: Oleg Tolstoy
      Samara confectionery - one of the best in the Union - gamno

      Nestle is one word.
      "Accond" seems to be edible. This is Chuvash.
  36. +1
    5 March 2018 10: 10
    Who prevented him from being a KGB officer to fulfill his duty to the end. Did not understand the essence of the ongoing processes in the country? As he himself said, he didn’t make a deal with conscience, he called it the betrayal of the oath.
  37. +3
    5 March 2018 10: 23
    As I understand it, a return to socialism is not expected in the near future. At least then, give our wild capitalism a human face.
    1. +3
      5 March 2018 10: 45
      Capitalism with a “human face” did not just appear ... the long bloody path of conquest of the working class, and precisely when the state of the Soviet Union appeared.
      Should we repeat the path of the Western labor movement ??? Another way is not visible!
  38. 0
    5 March 2018 10: 56
    Quote: Separ DNR
    Quote: BAI
    I understand that for rhyme
    Where was the sundae of seven cents,
    but the ice cream was more expensive. 7 kopecks - ice cream "Milk".

    Well, not rhymes for the sake of justice, "Milk" cost 10 kopecks, "Creamy" -13, and 7kop cost "Fruit" ...
    With "filler" -15 kopecks, "Ice cream" - 20, Eskimo - 22 kopecks.

    Eskimo-11 kopecks, but the Leningrad (a sort of ice cream in chocolate) cost 22.
    1. +1
      5 March 2018 12: 19
      Quote: mavrus
      Eskimo-11 cents, but the Leningrad (a sort of ice cream in chocolate) was worth 22.

      Woohhhhh !!! Just "sort of chocolate", cone-shaped in foil, and on a stick, we called it "Eskimo" (Donetsk cold storage plant) and it cost 22 kop, similarly it cost another ice cream the same in chocolate but "flat" and a paper wrapper (names , chesslovo, I don’t remember) as if it weren’t "Creamy in chocolate" or "Ice cream in chocolate" ...
      And "popsicle for 11 kopecks" is something unknown to me request, like Leningradskoe Yes
  39. 0
    5 March 2018 11: 13
    Everything is fine, and the last paragraph is completely out of place here - a lie!
    1. 0
      5 March 2018 13: 50
      What is the lie? Unless about a raw-material colony, they have gone too far. Or is our economy better than China?
  40. +1
    5 March 2018 11: 16
    This is all clear. The main thing, as always, is in the very last paragraph.
    But it’s not clear why the author of the article drives Brezhnev?
  41. +1
    5 March 2018 11: 24
    Started for health, finished for peace. The last paragraph is generally off topic, nonsense.
    1. 0
      5 March 2018 13: 49
      Why nonsense, in general, correctly written. Unless about a raw-material colony, they have gone too far.
      1. +1
        5 March 2018 15: 16
        Here I am about that. And about the unstable economy, which, according to the author, is exclusively raw and about technological lag. Overstepped.
  42. +1
    5 March 2018 11: 51
    Quote: 17085
    Russians have never lived better than they do today.

    Yes, the Gussians used to live more modestly, without ducks ...
  43. +2
    5 March 2018 12: 02
    To be or not to be,
    Grudinin is the protégé of the security forces, who understand that it is better for Putin to leave now.
    Putin is pushed by his friends, who are few in number.
    But they are both people of the system. Only Putin is a more promoted brand.
    Which group will be stronger, we learn on March 19th.
  44. +6
    5 March 2018 12: 26
    I, as a person who did not live in the USSR, believe that the Union was a unique geopolitical entity and a unique system of all time. His achievements in economics and science surprised the whole world and even changed him. A country that relied on its own forces should not be forgotten, and the unique experience of managing the USSR should not be forgotten.
    But from the comments it is clear that the people are no longer in solid memory. Lured in 2001-2008 Putin’s electorate, some of whom are warming their bones on blissful capitalism, has already boldly declared: “We have to live one day!”, “There is no turning back!” (Which, by the way, means a call to stand still, because our forward movement is simply forcible interrupted) and "I don’t change the pupil for rockets !!" In the future, few will regret the collapse of the Union because no one will know about it in the context of a great power, they will only remember "stalingulag11" that's all.
    Well, under capitalism, Russia will ALWAYS be at the margins of history, it will always be driven. As they say in the West, in the center of concentration of world capital, it will be so. Dedicated to witnesses of the full state sovereignty of Russia.
    1. +7
      5 March 2018 12: 42
      I lived in the Land of Soviets and I also think that this was a unique experiment ... and if not for redneck
      party elite of the country, could undergo a normal transformation, its development.
      Schaub them all ........
    2. +6
      5 March 2018 17: 42
      Quote: DREDD
      I, as a person who did not live in the USSR, believe that the Union was a unique geopolitical entity and a unique system of all time. His achievements in economics and science surprised the whole world and even changed him. A country that relied on its own forces should not be forgotten, and the unique experience of managing the USSR should not be forgotten.
      But from the comments it is clear that the people are no longer in solid memory. Lured in 2001-2008 Putin’s electorate, some of whom are warming their bones on blissful capitalism, has already boldly declared: “We have to live one day!”, “There is no turning back!” (Which, by the way, means a call to stand still, because our forward movement is simply forcible interrupted) and "I don’t change the pupil for rockets !!" In the future, few will regret the collapse of the Union because no one will know about it in the context of a great power, they will only remember "stalingulag11" that's all.
      Well, under capitalism, Russia will ALWAYS be at the margins of history, it will always be driven. As they say in the West, in the center of concentration of world capital, it will be so. Dedicated to witnesses of the full state sovereignty of Russia.

      I agree 100%, rightly said.
  45. 0
    5 March 2018 12: 27
    To be or not to be,
    and now the Grudinin program

    Sold the farm, and sell the country! laughing
    1. +3
      5 March 2018 17: 45
      Quote: Gray Brother
      To be or not to be,
      and now the Grudinin program

      Sold the farm, and sell the country! laughing

      To whom did the collective farm sell? How long has this happened .. Why are you talking about Sparrows?
      1. 0
        5 March 2018 17: 47
        Quote: Svarog
        To whom did the collective farm sell?

        He rummaged through the land - he sold the agricultural land to the Swedish company IKEA and kidanul, at the same time, shareholders.
        1. +3
          5 March 2018 18: 01
          Quote: Gray Brother
          He rummaged through the land - he sold the agricultural land to the Swedish company IKEA and kidanul, at the same time, shareholders.

          Are you talking about two women who appeared prem before the election 18 years later? laughing Vorobyov stop spreading stupid things am hi
          1. 0
            5 March 2018 19: 05
            Quote: Svarog
            Are you talking about two women who appeared prem before the election 18 years later?

            This is me about the court decision.
            1. +3
              5 March 2018 19: 37
              Quote: Gray Brother
              Quote: Svarog
              Are you talking about two women who appeared prem before the election 18 years later?

              This is me about the court decision.

              Our court understands what and how it decides .. Especially when you consider that the court has already passed and delivered the opposite verdict .. and of course before the elections .. There’s not a single candidate who’s been “soaked” like that, although if you drop the same Zhirik there they will not find it yet .. BUT they urinate Grudinin, they are really afraid that people will vote for him. And your Putin didn’t even deign to outline the program, what will he do for another 6 years .. Again posturing? So vote for Grudinin, if you wish your country prosperity.
              1. +1
                5 March 2018 22: 16
                Some kind of funny ... for the country? Can anyone else be there for the people?
                They are the capitalists, they will be happy for the same, a step to the left, a step to the right, the system of the capitalist international will turn inside out.
                Count against all busy abnormal individual finally ... what remains ??? And yes, we can make fun of Volfovich, anyway he won’t be the first ... we can pull the second one, so I’ll at least win cognac!
  46. +2
    5 March 2018 13: 03
    Quote: Lelek
    Quote: To be or not to be
    Saved RUSSIA !! Is this not enough ??

    hi
    What do you explain to these "dejavenniks" that they may appear in associations besides de ** ma? This is the rebuke given by Patriarch Kirill to the Bulgarian forgetful "non-ladies", which is quite in unison with respect to our home-grown "dezhuvushniks".

    They made fun.
    1. 0
      5 March 2018 19: 06
      Quote: SK70
      They made fun.

      And in Yugoslavia, who was this Serbian patriarch?
    2. 0
      6 March 2018 00: 42
      And how Serbs learn under the standards of NATO from American instructors - in general, you can tear your stomach.
  47. +4
    5 March 2018 13: 15
    Quote: Vard
    Stockholm Syndrome ... the thing is rather unpleasant ... in all its manifestations ... but for us in this case it’s good ... But to regret the USSR ... I don’t drink, I don’t smoke and I spend money only on my wife ... worked all his life ... not an entrepreneur ... built a house, a good foreign car in the yard ... my son has an apartment ... now I’m sick, treated by the way for free due to compulsory medical insurance ... and before that he traveled with his wife half the world ... Here and now you need to live, and the memories are good by the fireplace, with a glass of bourbon ...

    It’s evident that bourbon did something with your brains if you drew "Stockholm syndrome" into your comment either to the village or to the city! sad
  48. +3
    5 March 2018 13: 18
    first you need to conduct a trial of Gorbachev. Yeltsin. and two more minor Ukrainian-Belarusian traitors, and then act decisively but the distribution structure when the RSFSR fed all the parasites (except the BSSR) changed to real ..... take away from "little brothers and distribute to the RSFSR!
  49. +3
    5 March 2018 13: 19
    Quote: aleks26
    Quote: Alena Frolovna
    We have different concepts about ADVANTAGE.

    And what do you mean by this expression - to live with dignity. Walking hungry, with a bare ass but with a proudly raised head?

    Did you go barefoot in Soviet times? belay Why didn’t they bother you in a mental hospital ?! wassat tongue
  50. +2
    5 March 2018 13: 20
    Quote: DREDD
    I, as a person who did not live in the USSR, believe that the Union was a unique geopolitical entity and a unique system of all time. His achievements in economics and science surprised the whole world and even changed him. A country that relied on its own forces should not be forgotten, and the unique experience of managing the USSR should not be forgotten.
    But from the comments it is clear that the people are no longer in solid memory. Lured in 2001-2008 Putin’s electorate, some of whom are warming their bones on blissful capitalism, has already boldly declared: “We have to live one day!”, “There is no turning back!” (Which, by the way, means a call to stand still, because our forward movement is simply forcible interrupted) and "I don’t change the pupil for rockets !!" In the future, few will regret the collapse of the Union because no one will know about it in the context of a great power, they will only remember "stalingulag11" that's all.
    Well, under capitalism, Russia will ALWAYS be at the margins of history, it will always be driven. As they say in the West, in the center of concentration of world capital, it will be so. Dedicated to witnesses of the full state sovereignty of Russia.

    Yes good drinks
  51. +3
    5 March 2018 13: 30
    Quote: vladimirvn
    As I understand it, a return to socialism is not expected in the near future. At least then, give our wild capitalism a human face.

    Capitalism does not have a “human” face - this term was invented by the capitalists themselves! Capitalism can have only one face - profit at any cost, for which they will spare nothing and no one! K. Marx gave this “diagnosis” to capitalism a long time ago! It’s just that in different countries it is disguised and manifests itself differently, but this does not change its main essence! hi
    1. 0
      6 March 2018 00: 46
      For the sake of profit, capitalists, oh horror, can even do whatever they want. For example, as Henry Ford did, providing a high standard of living for his workers through excellent planning. Alas, if you perceive them as comical figures from ROSTA, then you can seriously break down. These are opponents. The opponents are strong and talented.
  52. +1
    5 March 2018 13: 47
    It turns out that not only Comrade. Putin regrets the collapse of the USSR. Millions of Russian citizens also yearn for the lost Soviet country. This was written by the leading American newspaper.
    I think with regard to “Comrade Putin” the newspaper got very excited... wassat
  53. 0
    5 March 2018 13: 50
    Quote: SK70
    "Accond" seems to be edible. This is Chuvash.

    ---------------------------
    We have it. To be honest, there is no good chocolate anywhere. Everyone tried it, it wasn’t quite right.
  54. 0
    5 March 2018 13: 58
    Lelek und Svarog
    Who does the much-hyped Grudinin look like???
    And suddenly it dawned on me - On Ukrainian Yatsenyuk. ..Arseny Petrovich .. laughing
  55. 0
    5 March 2018 14: 27
    Svarog
    “Because they are not building communism, but socialism... The difference is huge.”
    Yeah, in one STATE FARM left over from SOCIALISM in the whole country, but beyond the MKAD near MOSCOW and even in the NAME OF ILYICH!! And even with strawberries...
    And now for an educational program for the connoisseur...
    The basis is the economic structure of society at a given stage of its development. The superstructure is the political, legal, religious, artistic, philosophical views of society and the political, legal and other institutions corresponding to them.”
    By basis, Marxism understands the totality of people's production relations. Production relations, one or another type of production relations, are characterized by the form of ownership. The state of production relations reveals in whose hands the means of production are located (see) - at the disposal of the whole society or individuals, groups, classes who use these means of production to exploit other individuals, groups, classes.
    What about the basis and superstructure in the Program of the Candidate from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation:
    1. Socialism eliminates private ownership and exploitation of man by man, eliminates antagonisms in social development, radically changes the nature and purpose of economic progress.. The candidate from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation eliminates private ownership of the main means of production??? Didn't notice:::
    The economic basis of socialism is public ownership of the means of production, which must have a level adequate to socialism. Where is this in the Program of the candidate from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation? Again I can’t see even though I’m wearing glasses ::::
    2. Socialist relations of production are characterized by:
    1) undivided dominance of public ownership of the means of production;
    2) liberation of workers from exploitation and the establishment of relations of comradely cooperation and socialist mutual assistance;
    3) distribution of products in the interests of the workers themselves.
    The method of distributing that part of the social product that is intended for personal consumption under socialism is distribution according to labor, a measure of individual participation in the consumption of a jointly produced product.::::::::::::::::::::I’m keeping quiet about fair distribution:::::::::::::::
    The main thing is that the program of the candidate from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation does not affect the foundations of capitalism, but a collection of individual empty phrases. and since it does not affect the foundations of capitalism, it means that at this stage it is not feasible. hi
    1. 0
      6 March 2018 00: 49
      Marx was a XNUMXth century positivist. At that time, philosophers believed that science and progress would change man for the better. Entering into a debate with Plato, who believed that it is almost impossible to change a person for the better. As practice has shown, Plato is most likely right, and Marx’s constructions are very clumsy without taking people into account. Which does not change the fact that Marx was truly the greatest philosopher in human history.
  56. +5
    5 March 2018 16: 08
    SLAVERY IN THE USSR
    The working conditions were simply unbearably terrible! And, naturally, terribly unbearable...

    Not only were they not allowed to work more than 8 hours a day, but if you still stayed, God forbid, overtime, then you were forcibly paid double your salary. 

    Moreover, if you are not wearing the overalls given to you free of charge by the company, you might not be allowed to work at all. It’s clear that the overalls were all practically the same. So that everything would be like in a concentration camp. 

    Forcibly, trade unions shoved coupons for free food and milk. 

    They gave free housing to those who could not buy a cooperative ... 

    In short, they scoffed as they wanted ... 

    The height of cynicism, of course, was the 13th, 14th, and, in some places, the 15th salary. 

    And, if it was still possible to somehow get away from the 13th, having got into, for example, a sobering-up station, or by hitting someone in the face, then to get away from the 14th salary, for the length of service, the slaves did not have ANY CHANCE! 

    On Saturday and Sunday, they simply BROADLY closed the factories so that, God forbid, someone wouldn’t sneak into work. 

    The only exceptions were enterprises with a continuous production cycle. And those rare lucky people who worked for them still made it to work on weekends...

    In addition, these were countless medical examinations at work, which checked whether slaves were exploited intensively enough in enterprises. 

    But, the Soviet power was NOT enough to scoff at the people at work! 

    They gave free trips from the trade union organization to holiday homes, dispensaries, tourist centers, SO THAT THERE (!!!) CONTINUED THEIR DIRTY WORK! 

    Already in the form of torture with 4 meals a day, massage, Charcot’s shower and other, almost Gestapo, procedures... 

    Exhausted and exhausted people hoped that, at least in the evening, they would be left alone ... 

    But it was not there! In the evening the moral torture began. Dancing, a mass entertainer, and other horrors that can’t even be imagined now... 

    Child abuse deserves special mention. Unable to escape their slave status, they were forced to receive free textbooks, free or almost free breakfasts and lunches at school. Not only were the children taught by force, but they were also required to do their homework and answer correctly in class, estimating in points how many rods each person would receive after class... 

    Naturally, just like adults, children were not left alone in the summer either. They were forcibly taken to pioneer camps in order to continue to torture them there. 

    Having fallen into the bloodthirsty clutches of the pioneer leaders, the children were deprived of such natural childish rights as drinking, injecting drugs, smoking, swearing ... 

    They were tortured with sports, competitions, fed 4 times a day ... In general, you cannot tell all the bullying children were subjected to ... 

    And the impudent, cynical Soviet state also forced parents to pay for all this. From 8 to 12 rubles per shift. 

    At the end of the shift, exhausted and exhausted children came home...

    Scorched by the Sun (this is torture on the beach), stretched out (this is their rack), without even looking at the food (torture with food), they fled into the courtyard to exchange opinions with friends about whose camp was the most cruel and unbearable ... 

    In general, there is no forgiveness to the Soviet state for what the Soviet people and Soviet children survived!

    But, even in these inhuman conditions of the most severe restriction of freedoms and slavery, they still survived!
    People survived in roughly these unbearable conditions under the USSR. If anything, I am a witness from 1974 and my parents will confirm. Yes
    1. +6
      5 March 2018 17: 51
      drinks laughing hi Yes there were times...
    2. 0
      6 March 2018 12: 41
      Quote: morpogr
      morpogr

      hi
      Nice. You are well done. I would have added 10, but... . good Well, for the “critics”:
  57. 0
    5 March 2018 16: 09
    Quote: Vard
    three sixth-class workers... who knows, will understand... an electronics engineer of the first category... a programmer engineer... and a fourth-class bricklayer...

    electronics engineer of the first category - 6 jobs, software engineer - 6 jobs, bricklayer of the fourth category - 6 jobs..... Did I understand correctly? what
  58. +5
    5 March 2018 17: 42
    Quote: aleks26
    Quote: yu-xnumx
    You live well today, but do you have confidence that in 15 years we will not break here?

    And what, during the time of our life in the USSR, was there a certainty that it would not blaze? Although yes, it was, but only by not knowing the real situation. Remember the year 1962, 1983. then after all, they went along the edge.

    Then, again, it could only blaze from the West - an axiom. And if it could blaze, then everything was done to prevent this from happening - remember, “as long as there was no war” (by the way, they laughed at this in the 90s, but now it’s back)? In case there was a fire, everyone knew their bomb shelter and what to do. Today, the Russian Federation, thanks to the collapse of the USSR, is alone against everyone. China will think 100 times about what to ask from us if it decides to help, but even then it’s unlikely - it’s easier to cut it off from a plundered country, the profit is the same, but there are no expenses. Business, nothing personal, as they say. And here’s the question: why the hell did we need this break if we still returned to the Cold War? Without an economy, without allies, without a sane policy and with a life planning horizon from contribution to contribution to the bank? Definitely, I want to go to the USSR.
  59. +2
    5 March 2018 18: 18
    I don’t yearn for the USSR, everything is fine with me even now, I yearn for the time when I had YOUTH and my whole life ahead, although the Adidas tracksuit (and there were many of them) with the coat of arms and the abbreviation of the USSR (there was only one Olympic jersey left) that I received when I played for the national team from 84 to 87, I kept it and hangs it in the dressing room in plain sight. MEMORY that you can’t get back. sad
  60. +1
    5 March 2018 18: 36
    It's too late to cry over your hair when you have no head. They themselves caused all possible harm to their native state. We studied at universities, such as UML, squeaked, but stubbornly climbed into the CPSU, which we successfully passed in the 90s; in the evenings, secretly, listening to foreign “voices”, and at night they did not look away from the opuses of all sorts of false writers; later, they waited with lust and wanted the “changes” that one young man sang about. But we must not only remember the catastrophe of the USSR and all those who actively contributed to it, but also promptly take the most effective measures, tested by time and experience of both Tsarist Russia and the USSR, so that this disgrace never happens again.
  61. 0
    5 March 2018 22: 46
    To be or not to be and now Grudinin’s program,
    Yes, he has already merged, together with Zig-Zug...
    1. 0
      6 March 2018 00: 51
      Deda Zyu finally finished off a party that was parasitic on the tragedy of millions of people.
  62. 0
    5 March 2018 23: 17
    Quote: To be or not to be
    Lelek und Svarog
    Who does the much-hyped Grudinin look like???
    And suddenly it dawned on me - On Ukrainian Yatsenyuk. ..Arseny Petrovich .. laughing

    Exactly! Both have glasses and both have mustaches! wassat fool
    1. 0
      6 March 2018 00: 52
      I don’t know who Pavel is like, but creating such a chimera is complete bullshit.
  63. +1
    6 March 2018 07: 50
    Quote: DREDD
    “We must live one day at a time!”, “There is no turning back!” (Which, by the way, means a call to stand still, because our forward movement was simply forcibly interrupted) and “I’m not trading my food for rockets!!” In the future, few people will regret the collapse of the Union because no one will know about it in the context of a great power, only “Stalingulag11” will be remembered, that’s all.

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    In the USSR, much was based on ethics and education; few things were described by laws. Today, deputies pass any laws, even inhumane ones, and do not think that this is wrong.
  64. +1
    6 March 2018 23: 01
    Quote: Z_G_R
    well, what kind of nonsense .. what is standing in lines? What are rotten vegetables? You intentionally talk about 80 years, or rather about the restructuring already. This is not the USSR already about which we are talking.
    The wife is a teacher, well, of course, at night checking notebooks, yeah, fairy tales again) My grandfather and grandmother worked at school and as a teacher, and the head teacher and even the director, and no one worked at night with notebooks, this is a lie!
    The apartments were received quietly working at one enterprise for several years. (about 4-6) And normal apartments. So again, a lie.
    As for the TV, the car .. well, at the cottage several TVs are lying around old, it was obvious that it was not so difficult to get it) In other words, everything could be obtained in real time. The USSR had one minus, our goods (equipment) were not as comfortable and convenient as foreign ones. And most likely you say that the search for “everything” is about foreign products.
    So, that your whole post is complete nonsense. Bye.


    My parents bought a Kodri refrigerator in 1980. While it works without breakdowns, they didn’t do anything at all.
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  66. 0
    April 18 2018 12: 44
    Quote: garius
    Quote: Z_G_R
    well, what kind of nonsense .. what is standing in lines? What are rotten vegetables? You intentionally talk about 80 years, or rather about the restructuring already. This is not the USSR already about which we are talking.
    The wife is a teacher, well, of course, at night checking notebooks, yeah, fairy tales again) My grandfather and grandmother worked at school and as a teacher, and the head teacher and even the director, and no one worked at night with notebooks, this is a lie!
    The apartments were received quietly working at one enterprise for several years. (about 4-6) And normal apartments. So again, a lie.
    As for the TV, the car .. well, at the cottage several TVs are lying around old, it was obvious that it was not so difficult to get it) In other words, everything could be obtained in real time. The USSR had one minus, our goods (equipment) were not as comfortable and convenient as foreign ones. And most likely you say that the search for “everything” is about foreign products.
    So, that your whole post is complete nonsense. Bye.


    My parents bought a Kodri refrigerator in 1980. While it works without breakdowns, they didn’t do anything at all.


    We have a ZIL refrigerator, destroyed by the Banderlogs of the Moscow Automobile Plant, which was purchased in 1980 and moved in a container from the Russian north to Belarus, it still works at the dacha!
  67. 0
    April 18 2018 14: 10
    Quote: Sergey Suvorov Ria
    first you need to conduct a trial of Gorbachev. Yeltsin. and two more minor Ukrainian-Belarusian traitors, and then act decisively but the distribution structure when the RSFSR fed all the parasites (except the BSSR) changed to real ..... take away from "little brothers and distribute to the RSFSR!


    You propose to judge Shushkevich. For what? For the fact that he, together with the Prime Minister of the BSSR Kebich, came to Viskuli in the Belorezhskaya Pushcha, to receive distinguished Ukrainian and Russian guests as hosts and at the same time resolve economic issues regarding the supply of gas and oil to the BSSR? And there, in order to solve these master’s problems, they quickly concocted documents on sovereign republics / Study the Chronicle of the collapse, and you will quickly understand everything about WHO the main “traitor” is!

    http://tass.ru/politika/3850507

    http://tass.ru/politika/3850507