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The pre-production ICBMs "Sarmat" will go into service with the Strategic Missile Forces in the near future

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The head of the Committee of the Federation Council of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation, Viktor Bondarev, told the media that in the near future, the latest Sarmat missiles would be supplied to the missile units and units of the Armed Forces of the country. It is noted that we are talking about pre-series intercontinental ballistic missiles.


Recall that on the eve, during the announcement by President Vladimir Putin of the message to the Federal Assembly, for the first time, the testing of the Sarmat ICBM was shown to a wide audience.

The pre-production ICBMs "Sarmat" will go into service with the Strategic Missile Forces in the near future


We are talking about PC-28 missiles. These are new-generation missile systems capable of overcoming any of the existing and future air defense missile defense systems. The difference with the complex active protection BSP (combat starting position). The PC-28 is capable of carrying boot information that is disorienting the interception means. It's about a program of false targets, which makes the missile system today invulnerable.

"Sarmat" was developed at JSC "State Rocket Center named after academician V.P. Makeev" in the city of Miass.
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  1. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 2 March 2018 17: 49
    +12
    I suggest that NATO classify this heavy ICBM under the name "Full Scribe" lol
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 2 March 2018 17: 51
      +33
      And again I remind you, I promised that, like other new products, this one will appear in 2018. And they argued with me, they spoke 2025-2030 ...
      1. Alex-a832
        Alex-a832 2 March 2018 17: 56
        +18
        Apparently you were arguing with Euroskeptics, as a normal Russian person understands that the sled has already dispersed laughing

        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        And again I remind you, I promised that, like other new products, this one will appear in 2018. And they argued with me, they spoke 2025-2030 ...
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 2 March 2018 18: 00
          +20
          The point is the election and the fact is that this year is very important. Count 40 or even 41.
          1. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 2 March 2018 18: 06
            +20
            Quote: Lord of the Sith
            The point is the election

            It's not about the election. Apart from Putin, there are no candidates. The rest is just zero. The debate clearly shows this. And Putin just lives in Russia. It is his vital interest to revive Russia, so that people can live well in Russia.
            Quote: Lord of the Sith
            And again, I promised,

            Go down from heaven. Only the creator can promise. Or are you the author of these weapons?
            But we all believed that we would rise from our knees. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
            1. Lord of the Sith
              Lord of the Sith 2 March 2018 18: 15
              +13
              To the elections, not in the sense of adding a couple of percent, there is just no doubt about it. And who is that year is very important.
              And as for the creator or not the creator, how many times the constructor postponed the deadlines, it is better for them to know, because they are the creators. And I still said, "look will be in 2018!". And so it happened. You can consider it a wang or someone else.

              Many thanks to Putin and those who work with him. There are no questions.
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 2 March 2018 18: 44
                +11
                Yes, thanks for the revival of the army to Putin. But otherwise full of seams .. unfortunately.
                1. hrych
                  hrych 2 March 2018 19: 10
                  +36
                  Quote: Svarog
                  But otherwise full of seams .. unfortunately.

                  BAM completed, Chita-Khabarovsk built a road, in Vladik built three bridges, about which not only the Bolsheviks dreamed, but even the Tsar. Here is the bridge to the Crimea completing. Cities are built up with skyscrapers, new freeways have been built across the country. They have become leaders in the export of wheat, thanks to agricultural reforms with a focus on agricultural holdings. The USSR spent gold on American wheat and lots of it with an independent granary and Kazakh virgin soil, which are not in the Russian Federation. Self-sufficiency of grain in poultry and eggs, in pork, remains a year or two until the self-sufficiency of beef and dairy products. Atommash and Roscosmos are holding positions in the world, and there are already 3 Boreas with 48 Clubs on duty, 80 Yars on guard already. Where are the seams? And do not forget that he came during the war for the integrity of the country, and they also wanted to throw us away from the Greater Kavkhrebt, then in 2008 a new war, already for the Ridge itself and it is ours. Then the Crimea, from Manas, kicked out the Americans with hard currency, declared the underwater ridges of Lomonosov and Mendeleev our shelf, and this is not a 200-mile zone, but to the Pole. This is supported by the atomic and not only icebreaking fleet, where even the Americans are not suitable for soles, launched an Arctic grouping, etc. The Nord Stream, the Blue Stream are built, the Turkish Stream and the Power of Siberia are under construction. Modern machine tools were bought, car factories were built, now Mitsubishi, Toyotas, BMWs, etc. are collected in Russia, jobs are here, taxes are here. And so forth and so forth
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 2 March 2018 19: 43
                    +15
                    Quote: hrych
                    BAM completed, Chita-Khabarovsk built a road, in Vladik built three bridges, about which not only the Bolsheviks dreamed, but even the Tsar.

                    Yes, he helped Rottenberg .. but he just forgot about the people .. here's the trouble.
                    1. shans2
                      shans2 2 March 2018 20: 10
                      +6
                      zhydotrolls under Slavic and Soviet symbols are delivered) everything is with blogger Kota Moti today, the final article on the complete defeat of NATO and the surrender of the West .... Our weapons decided everything. Now they will all write you off to the scrap, they will put your masters. Russia has won.
                      1. Svarog
                        Svarog 2 March 2018 20: 45
                        +10
                        Quote: shans2
                        Our weapon decided everything.


                        Many physicists, technicians doubt that Putin voiced a relatively new weapon .. I’m not a techie .. But I’m also not sure that this is the full truth .. Our rocket launchers fall every other time, and then there’s 20 misses .. The perpetual motion machine .. In general, if true .. then it’s very cool! But so many lies lately that there are doubts ..
                    2. Alex-a832
                      Alex-a832 2 March 2018 21: 04
                      +5
                      Quote: Svarog
                      Quote: hrych
                      BAM completed, Chita-Khabarovsk built a road, in Vladik built three bridges, about which not only the Bolsheviks dreamed, but even the Tsar.

                      Yes, he helped Rottenberg .. but he just forgot about the people .. here's the trouble.

                      But what about the option that the Rotenbergs are fulfilling Putin’s wishes. Nicholas ll gave independence to the oligarchs, ended with the February coup, the abdication and the death of the family. Putin from the very beginning began to spread rotten disloyal oligarchs, and pushed loyal from political power, but gave work, including to the budget of the country.
                    3. hrych
                      hrych 2 March 2018 21: 05
                      +13
                      Quote: Svarog
                      Yes, he helped Rottenberg .. but he just forgot about the people .. here's the trouble.

                      Do not invent the oligarchic-Yeltsin system in the Russian Federation destroyed. The coolest was Berezovsky, he was expelled, he could not pick up the factories, wells and TV channels, he died the brave, Gusinsky sniffed the bucket, he could not take the factories, wells and TV channels, Khodorkovsky lived on his bunk for years, got up with roosters and lived with roosters, leaned back in exile . The rest of Deripaska, Potanins, etc. accepted the rules of the game, became top managers of state enterprises, Vekselberg bought gold eggs and returned them to Russia. Re-privatization went unnoticed for the average man, some Muscovites bought the factories and factories on the ground from the gangs, and when the brothers got rid of or the price was bent on the arrow with a chantrap, “Alpha” came in, the brothers got into the teeth of the women, they returned the cut paper to that, so that from the new rich had to defend themselves with local laws. In the West, accounts with zeros are not needed; in the West, real values ​​are needed, i.e. factories, wells, media space. When Leninists such as Bukharin, Rykov, and Lenin himself plundered the gold of the Empire and put hundreds of millions of gold rubles in Swiss banks, Stalin tortured this bastard, took all his offspring hostage as beneficiaries and accounts, and the gold went to industrialization and the subsequent Lendliz. Moreover, Lenin made a mistake, and Krupskaya collapsed, passed the bills, ate dumplings and leaned back. One hundred million gold rubles, each containing almost 0,8 grams of pure gold, converted to gold, we find that each Leninist stole 80 tons of gold, now it is about 3,5 billion dollars each. Moreover, it was not only the royal treasury that was plundered, citizens were robbed, many nobles lived, robbed churches where there were gold salaries and church utensils, during the famine they sold bread for currency, when it had a gold equivalent. Now, however, the oligarchs, etc., did not export gold to the undead, but exported the so-called capital, i.e. virtual zeroes in computers, but it’s nothing, and there’s nothing, but you can try to buy locks, etc. And suddenly our former oligarchs found out that they don’t sell anything to them laughing and suddenly Forbes ceases to consider them billionaires. Therefore, when people talk about the export of capital abroad, at 30 billion a year, when liberals and communards begin to blame the regime, they don’t understand anything in life, or rather, they’ve brainwashed people with so much Friedmann’s Marxism that they wonder, they don’t think in images, not real values, but banknotes laughing They exported from the Russian Federation for the year 30 billion not even cut pieces of paper, but computer zeros, and it is not the economy of the Russian Federation that suffers from it, but those who buy goods with these zeros and so on. The stocks are a separate issue, created a panic themselves, depreciated the stocks, and then Rosneft them bought from foreign holders for pennies, on their own paper-zeros. The Pharisees-bankers have dusted your brains with all kinds of merchandising, franchising, and so on. So you can’t understand how Putin is building a bunch of nuclear submarine rocket carriers when the United States does not have new ones even in the project ...
                      1. Svarog
                        Svarog 2 March 2018 21: 11
                        +10
                        Quote: hrych
                        Do not invent the oligarchic-Yeltsin system in the Russian Federation destroyed. The coolest was Berezovsky, expelled

                        Why so many letters .. You can come up with excuses to Putin and his team as much as you like .. But how many do not say honey .. it does not get any sweeter. Well, everything is bad, in economics, medicine, industry, science, education .. everywhere it's bad ..
                      2. Evgeniy667b
                        Evgeniy667b 3 March 2018 07: 13
                        +3
                        hrych
                        ... you can’t understand how Putin is building a bunch of nuclear submarine rocket carriers when the US doesn’t have new ones even in the project ...
                        Well, you are clearly getting excited here! But where is this cloud? With huge attempts, they introduce one ICAPL with pauses of several years. In my days when I was working in production, such boats as 667B per year for 4! put into operation, and they made a rustle only like that. Now everything is exactly the opposite .. Amerikosy enter annually one or two "virgins." They have SSBNs in the person of "Ohio" and are preparing for a new project. And how many companies were plundered and plundered with the GDP of enterprises? Statistics call the figure about 70 thousand!
                    4. hrych
                      hrych 2 March 2018 21: 33
                      +12
                      Quote: Svarog
                      You can come up with excuses to Putin and his team as much as you like .. But how many do not say honey .. it does not get any sweeter. Well, everything is bad, in economics, medicine, industry, science, education .. everywhere it's bad ..

                      Facts where? Now tomogrof in every major hospital. You do not give me Soviet medicine as an example, I remember belt-driven dental drills when the head is shaking, green instead of worthwhile drugs and open the patient to see the cause of the disease. The medicine is insurance, there is a free required minimum and it is an order of magnitude higher than the State Department, if you want to pay more. Where is everything bad in the economy? Is everything bad in your head? Or you were born during the EBNovsky reign or later and did not see Yeltsin’s devastation. So I saw the end of the USSR, and the dashing 90 now. There is nothing to compare, there the Bolsheviks suppressed the unfortunate Acceptance, they couldn’t do the Vidiks, they pumped up the computer revolution, wire telephones in turn, when the West introduced radio telephones. And EBN in general was a beauty, the bottom is full. Therefore, make mercy, dear man, go already vote for the dog, and do not go in here with your nonsense argumentation. Here VO and the successes of the regime in the military commissariat are not in doubt, at least how much can be whined.
                      Quote: Svarog
                      Many physicists, techies have doubts that Putin voiced a relatively new weapon .. I'm not a techie ..

                      So take care of yourself or be silent. There is nothing new there, except for the Kyrgyz Republic with a nuclear installation, for about 5 years we have been discussing all these devices here and Sarmat, and maneuvering hypersonic units and a nuclear torpedo. Not only that, they talked about a nuclear jet engine here years ago, and it was reported about its test. Here the devices have ripened, some of them are up to prototypes, some are before being adopted, and some are already in the army. Read VO will be in trend wassat
                      1. Svarog
                        Svarog 2 March 2018 21: 54
                        +13
                        Quote: hrych
                        Facts where? Now tomogrof in every major hospital. You do not give me Soviet medicine as an example, I remember belt-driven dental drills,

                        I also remember such ones and even removal of a nerve without anesthesia laughing But this is technological progress and this comparison is not correct.
                        Quote: hrych
                        Now tomogrof in every major hospital.

                        What's the point? If it is paid .. and not accessible to everyone. And if it's free .. then you have to wait in line for a month and a half .. during this time and that .. you can not wait. There is no free medicine - this is a fact, the exception is Moscow.
                        Quote: hrych
                        Where everything is bad in the economy

                        So Putin's associates from all channels shout that everything is bad in the economy! You did not hear? laughing
                        Quote: hrych
                        you were born during the EBNovsky reign or later and did not see the Yeltsin ruin

                        At that time, I was already an independent person and I remember everything very well .. And the problem is that only the oil price separates us from that period .. For 20 years, Putin was unable to build a competitive economy, nothing but natural we do not sell or produce resources .. Well, weapons.

                        Quote: hrych
                        Therefore, make mercy, dear man, go already vote for the dog, and do not go in here with your nonsense argumentation. Here VO and the successes of the regime in the military commissariat are not in doubt, at least how much can be whined.

                        I vote for Grudinin. And with the arguments you have like a schoolboy .. not even .. like a parrot .. which repeats exactly what the fed.channels are broadcasting ..
                        Quote: hrych
                        about 5 years we here discussed all these devices and Sarmat, and maneuvering hypersonic blocks and a nuclear torpedo. Not only that, they talked about a nuclear jet engine here years ago, it was reported about its test

                        Apparently thanks to your discussions, a "breakthrough" arose laughing Let’s see if it’s true, then it’s great .. but doubts .. Armata pranced around the Red Square in 2015, but has not yet been brought to mind .. Missile launchers fall through one .. well, in general we’ll see ..
                    5. Separ
                      Separ 2 March 2018 22: 08
                      +3
                      and what are you .. dying of hunger ..
                      1. volodya
                        volodya 2 March 2018 22: 56
                        +5
                        Quote: Separ
                        and what are you .. dying of hunger ..

                  2. Abrash
                    Abrash 2 March 2018 20: 13
                    +10
                    PLATO introduced, he freed friends of the oligarchs from taxes, sold all high-quality wheat for export to his beloved “partners”, that bread in Russia became full XXX ..., Roscosmos satellites are falling ..., ordinary people aren’t cold from all kinds of “streams” if only they didn’t work as cleaners in Gazprom ... the underwater ridges were actually for the USSR (see maps of the Soviet period) and no one argued ..., etc. etc.
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 2 March 2018 21: 17
                      +8
                      There are hard varieties of wheat, we produce little, the climatic zone does not allow, however, our culinary preferences do not require hard breeds, we eat bread, we consume dough for dumplings and pies. And the main consumer of hard varieties is pasta, we ourselves buy for pasta from Kazakhs. Egyptians, Turks, etc. consumers of our bread are also not pasta, their cuisine requires cakes, etc. Japanese-Chinese eat Mediterranean pasta, Mediterranean Europe and the USA, where a lot of pasta and Chinese live. Therefore, when they tell you that they say that we produce low-quality wheat, spit in his face, it is what is needed for our domestic cuisine and in the foreign market is in demand by the regions with their own cuisine, so much so that we are the first. And we grow grain in such conditions that the USA, China, India and other Brazil grows it in the tropic, and we are close to the Arctic Circle. So note.
                  3. starogil
                    starogil 2 March 2018 21: 00
                    +8
                    You forgot to mention the distribution of orders, medals, and keys to the "boomers"
                    the best part of Russian youth who satisfied their Wishlist
                    at the Olympic rally in South Korea at the expense of the taxpayer,
                    20 million citizens of which are below the poverty line, receiving
                    microscopic salaries and pensions.
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 2 March 2018 21: 38
                      +10
                      And you win at least the bronze of the Olympics, then we’ll talk. These are supermen who have not seen childhood and youth, continuous training, work and pain. Take at least one leap like Medvedev, then judge these people.
                      1. starogil
                        starogil 3 March 2018 06: 22
                        +4
                        At their own expense, at the expense of idiots of mothers and fathers, these "supermen"
                        let them satisfy their Wishlist.
                  4. Separ
                    Separ 2 March 2018 22: 07
                    +3
                    Even with the annexation of Crimea, Putin has gone down in history for centuries ..
                  5. Akuzenka
                    Akuzenka 3 March 2018 00: 01
                    +2
                    A seam inside. Government, agents of influence of the Anglo-Saxons. The Duma, similarly, even individual deputies recognize this. Welcome would not nod to the USSR, they nod and forget that capitalism and homo homini already are lupus! So no, everyone pulls the old bagpipes. But in fact, the team will sound and the "elite" will hand over the country for promises. Not even for money, for words. As it was under the king, and now. There will be no revolution and all who survive will be jealous of Agafier.
                2. lis-ik
                  lis-ik 2 March 2018 20: 33
                  +6
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Yes, thanks for the revival of the army to Putin. But otherwise full of seams .. unfortunately.

                  So they revive for themselves, they don’t give a damn about their homeland.
            2. Evgeniy667b
              Evgeniy667b 2 March 2018 19: 14
              +14
              Vladimir16 If Putin, as you say, Lived in Russia, He would protect this land as a habitat. And de facto Siberian forests have been left to the Chinese and their ilk (different organized crime groups). I would take care of natural resources, which are squandered to the right and left. Soon there will be a technogenic desert around, and who will live there, or rather, there is a big question !!!
            3. Anatole Klim
              Anatole Klim 2 March 2018 19: 15
              +17
              Quote: Vladimir16
              And Putin just lives in Russia. It is his vital interest to revive Russia, so that people can live well in Russia ... Thank you to Putin with all my heart.

              After march 18
              The traffic cop didn’t have a good time in the morning ... I didn’t get enough sleep ... My wife didn’t make breakfast, but refused sex at night ... they called from school and said that her son had only two ... the boss fucked him up and lost all the bonuses ... . 
              In short, he replaced the angry as a dog ... and then also forgot the mittens! It should freeze ... 
              Here Mercedes O 777 LLC 777 rus rushes along the oncoming road at a speed of 240. A traffic cop stops him .... Merc slows down and slowly drives up to a traffic cop ... the driver opens a window and asks smiling: 
              “What's the matter, commander?” Am I breaking something? 
              And then a traffic cop with a sharp blow of the baton breaks the windshield, crushes the doors with his feet, jumps on the hood, pulls out the carrier, twists it, gets it right, breaks it, throws it on the asphalt, tramples. Trying to shove him into a patrol car. And only then he notices Mers numbers and understands that this is the FSB ... Immediately shakes off the Merc driver, carefully puts him in the car and closing the door, mutters guiltily into broken glass:
              - Bro, I'm sorry - I didn’t give a day, my wife didn’t give it, hungry, cold, I forgot my mittens ... I’ll make a car, and tomorrow I’ll bring the rights to you personally! ...
              The driver of Merce is also fucked up, wipes his wet forehead and interrupts:
              - Yes, to hell with him with the rights and the car ... I thought Putin did not choose .. laughing hi
              1. Akuzenka
                Akuzenka 3 March 2018 00: 06
                +2
                Stupidly and gives liberals.
          2. Alex-a832
            Alex-a832 2 March 2018 18: 07
            +11
            Quote: Lord of the Sith
            The point is the election and the fact is that this year is very important. Count 40 or even 41.


            I agree about the pre-war, the impression is the same, but Hitler gathered strength in those years, and the mattresses cannot mobilize the EU. They don’t really like the nuclear option - it’s harmful for business.
          3. ul_vitalii
            ul_vitalii 2 March 2018 18: 10
            +5
            Many on the forum do not believe this, on a nearby branch a dime a dozen, almost from the assembly shop they give interviews.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 2 March 2018 18: 23
              +2
              Quote: ul_vitalii
              almost from the assembly shop give interviews

              For such an interview, the talker will receive, if he is lucky, from the first department of the enterprise, but most likely he will talk with "bloody gebnya".
            2. vovanpain
              vovanpain 2 March 2018 19: 48
              +6
              Quote: ul_vitalii
              Many on the forum do not believe this, on a nearby branch a dime a dozen, almost from the assembly shop they give interviews.

              Yes, let them Vitaliy. Do not pay attention, the dogs bark, and the caravan goes on.
              Discussion of the possible early opening of traffic on the automobile part of the Crimean bridge will take place after the end of the weather in the Kerch Strait. This was announced by the Minister of Transport Maxim Sokolov, “The issues of opening the bridge earlier will be considered later, after the peak period of adverse weather conditions, which usually end in March,” the Interfax Minister said. Sokolov recalled that, according to the contract, traffic on the automobile part of the bridge should open in December 2018.On the eve of RBC, referring to the draft state contract for the maintenance of the bridge and approaches to it, which Rosavtodor plans to conclude with the contractor, wrote that the car traffic on the bridge in Crimea may be launched in May. The draft contract said that the deadline for its execution was from the moment it was concluded, “but not earlier than 00:00 on May 1, 2018.” In an interview with RBC, a representative of Rosavtodor said that “the construction of the Crimean bridge is being carried out on schedule, there is a backlog in several areas” . He did not give exact dates. On Thursday, March 1, Russian President Vladimir Putin, in a message to the Federal Assembly, said that the bridge to the Crimea would be opened for automobile traffic “in a few months.” Www.rbc.ru / rbcfreenews / 5a9973e39a7947ae1
              3002ca6

              hi So the dogs bark and the job is done. soldier
            3. Akuzenka
              Akuzenka 3 March 2018 00: 09
              0
              Victims of the exam. Rocket with a nuclear reactor. Where is the working fluid? Duc, such a rocket will give SUCH / infection !!! Why did the “scary” USSR abandon nuclear weapons on planes and missiles? Not enough time to understand? Your problems.
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        2. bk316
          bk316 2 March 2018 18: 33
          +11
          the sled has already accelerated

          One of my acquaintances, well, a very informed man on my complaints, "that of course we made very good samples of weapons, but WHERE IS THE SAME SERIES?" At the beginning of the 17th year he said wait 2-3 years until the renewal of the production base is completely over.
          Everyone will be very surprised when it all works.
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 2 March 2018 18: 41
        +2
        Quote: Sith Lord
        And again I remind you, I promised that, like other new products, this one will appear in 2018.

        And you will not die of modesty. They promised and did. Thank you, "great designer of rocket technology," and many thanks from all the citizens of Russia for fulfilling your promise good
        Py.Sy. Well, at least "predicted", but not "promised."
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 2 March 2018 19: 14
          +3
          That thing is not about the rocket and not at the designers. I didn’t promise, but wrote, it would be more true. Thank you for the amendment.
      3. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 2 March 2018 19: 45
        +2
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        And again I remind you, I promised that, like other new products, this one will appear in 2018. And they argued with me, they spoke 2025-2030 ...

        In some ways they were right.


        Today at 18: 05, views: 1959
        The new weapons are still unpredictable in terms of serial production, but it is already known that their individual samples will take up combat duty in the next 10 years, said Viktor Bondarev, former commander of the VKS, head of the Federation Council defense committee.
        We are talking about a promising missile system with a planning winged block and a new cruise missile with a nuclear power plant.


      4. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 3 March 2018 13: 09
        +1
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        And again I remind you, I promised that, like other new products, this one will appear in 2018. And they argued with me, they spoke 2025-2030 ...

        We love to stoop ..! bully
        But Bandera will have to be caught, with simple small arms!
  2. Black_Vatnik
    Black_Vatnik 2 March 2018 17: 50
    +6
    Tomorrow morning in the Washington Post morning issue: Washington's sharp increase in toilet paper prices is expected.
    1. zyzx
      zyzx 2 March 2018 17: 58
      +1
      Quote: Black_Jacket
      Tomorrow morning in the Washington Post morning issue: Washington's sharp increase in toilet paper prices is expected.

      Rather, the services of psychiatrists.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 2 March 2018 18: 00
      +1
      Rather, on diapers. lol
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 2 March 2018 20: 36
        +5
        Quote: siberalt
        Rather, on diapers. lol

        Well, at least someone remembered about diapers, but I really thought it blew through.
    3. MadCat
      MadCat 2 March 2018 18: 37
      +11
      Quote: Black_Jacket
      Tomorrow morning in the Washington Post morning issue: Washington's sharp increase in toilet paper prices is expected.

      does not cease to amaze the number of posts with "humor" on the basis of toiletries, it is not Americans who need a psychiatrist, I say for sure.
  3. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 2 March 2018 17: 50
    +5
    I hope to visit us in the Urals, in free mines ... We are waiting!
    1. dog breeder
      dog breeder 2 March 2018 17: 52
      +2
      MIKHAN Today,
      I hope to visit us in the Urals, in free mines ... We are waiting!

      They will grind. hehe hehe
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 2 March 2018 18: 06
        +8
        The real option, in the Urals, people are reliable, decent deployment of missiles. smile
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 2 March 2018 18: 10
      +11
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I hope to visit us in the Urals, in free mines ..

      Meehan hi ! And they stayed there, well, at least one? On duty, I had to go to the 59 of the Kartalin division of the Strategic Missile Forces, while (1977-78), she had 46 silos and 7 military control units. In 2003. thanks to the eternally blue Ural koldir, the division was disbanded and disintegrated to the applause of the overseas inspectors. The missiles are disassembled, sawn, the mines are blown up. So start digging the mine, otherwise they will not be allocated to the Urals laughing Well, this is a proof for verifying words. One of the 46 silos (or rather its remains)
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 2 March 2018 18: 27
        +5
        Quote: Tersky
        Meehan! And they stayed there, well, at least one?

        Although I’m not Mikhan, I’m answering. Did you hear anything about the Strategic Missile Forces in the Clear Orenburg Region? And Kartalinskaya, yes, they drank there only what is your photo.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 2 March 2018 18: 40
          +4
          Quote: DenZ
          Have you heard anything about the Strategic Missile Forces in the Clear Orenburg Region?

          There was a case, but a very short period of time was posted there. There, in September of the 79 of the year, the first missile regiment in the division, equipped with the P-36 UTX, took up combat duty, But the point was not that it was not, it was not familiar, as of 92, there were 10 regiments with a total silo in number 67 mines. What we have today - 4 regiment for 6 silos. Something like that, colleague.hi
      2. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 2 March 2018 18: 55
        +2
        Quote: Tersky
        Meehan! And they stayed there, well, at least one?

        There are, since the 90s "abandoned" .. Everything inside is preserved and even an armored hood ..! Although they tried to pick it, the "metallers of the 90s" ... They simply blocked the entrance with an explosion and EVERYTHING!
        I will not upload photos, otherwise I’ll give the liberals .. soldier
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 2 March 2018 19: 03
          +4
          Quote: MIKHAN
          I will not upload photos, otherwise I’ll give the liberals ..

          Now I am calm, the border is locked !!! good
          1. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov 2 March 2018 20: 17
            +2
            Quote: Tersky
            Quote: MIKHAN
            I will not upload photos, otherwise I’ll give the liberals ..

            Now I am calm, the border is locked !!! good

            And where do we go to the Urals .. In all-round defense always, the Ridge of Russia, have to protect! Moscow is far (Thank God ..)))) and manage on our own .. soldier
            PS And the border is just not in the castle .. The EBN has done a lot of damage! There is nothing to protect .. "Iskander doesn’t count .. Airfields need to be restored! soldier
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 2 March 2018 21: 06
          +3
          Vital, throw off the coordinates slowly into the silver mine that Davydov flooded. I want to go there.
          1. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov 2 March 2018 21: 31
            +2
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Vital, throw off the coordinates slowly into the silver mine that Davydov flooded. I want to go there.
            Not Davydov, but DEMIDES !!! You need to know the story ..
            Right now! laughing But he collected the opal pebbles ... (threw it later ..))))
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 2 March 2018 21: 46
              +2
              Ugh, plin, damn horny beguiled. laughing And I have a couple of malachite pebbles. tongue
              1. Vitaly Anisimov
                Vitaly Anisimov 2 March 2018 21: 56
                +2
                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                Ugh, plin, damn horny beguiled. laughing And I have a couple of malachite pebbles. tongue

                It happens .. But Davydov, this is from 1812 the French drenched the devil ....
                Demidov, of course the guy was just that cool. but the greedy was the little devil, and his family disappeared into the abyss of Russian history ....
                And in the Urals there is still much that Vladimir has, even diamonds are (you need to know where to look))))
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 2 March 2018 21: 59
                  +2
                  I know, my cousins ​​live there. In Tagil.
      3. Vadim237
        Vadim237 2 March 2018 22: 17
        +1
        Perhaps all this will be redone in the future and returned to the ICBMs.
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov 3 March 2018 12: 40
          0
          Quote: Vadim237
          Perhaps all this will be redone in the future and returned to the ICBMs.

          Or maybe they stayed there on the machine ..?
      4. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 3 March 2018 14: 45
        +1
        Quote: Tersky
        In 2003 thanks to the eternally blue Ural koldir, the division was disbanded and disintegrated to the applause of the overseas inspectors.

        so this is where he is hiding for as long as 3 years, starting December 31, 1999.
  4. keeper03
    keeper03 2 March 2018 17: 57
    +2
    It would be nice to make a demonstration launch across the country or to the middle of the Pacific! wassat good
    1. Vard
      Vard 2 March 2018 18: 00
      +3
      So they flew already ... And successfully!
      1. Ryazan87
        Ryazan87 2 March 2018 18: 21
        +6
        Sarmat? In December 2017, only the first throw tests were, with a delay of 1,5 years.
        But Bondarev and about PAK FA promised a lot of things. Remind yourself or remember?
        1. Danila75
          Danila75 2 March 2018 18: 43
          +7
          Quote: Ryazanets87
          Sarmat? In December 2017, only the first throw tests were, with a delay of 1,5 years.

          Do you know about all the trials of Sarmat, or only about the ones that Wiki dug up? More ... Modernization of the Voivode has already been three times. It’s not possible to extend the service life anymore until the blueness. The last time was extended to 20 years. Point. This is the 20th year that was the border that the developers of Sarmat established. And now to our sheep ... you know at what stage of readiness Sarmat at the moment? I’m sure not. But I think that Sarmat will begin to go on duty either at the end of this year, or next.
          But lying for several years, then announcing to the whole world that we have various new weapons that are only dreamed of in the West, for the sake of five minutes of confusion, the adversary does not make sense. Lies quickly opened up and Putin the whole world would be called a balabol. At the same time, the laser, missiles, Yu-71 is not a dummy in the style of Star Warriors, because unlike Reagan talk, our projects are realizable and not expensive compared to Star Wars.
          1. Ryazan87
            Ryazan87 20 March 2018 13: 18
            0
            "Do you know about all the trials of Sarmat, or only about the ones that Wiki dug up?" -
            we are dark people, where too ..

            "Moscow. March 13. INTERFAX.RU - Getting Ready another throwing test Sarmat’s new intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), Army General Valery Gerasimov, chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, said at a conference call.
            "The first launch of this rocket took place at the end of December last year. Currently, the preparation of the next throw test is in full swing at the Plesetsk Cosmodrome, "said Gerasimov."
            "... during the throw tests planned to work out more than 50 tasks", - said the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces, Colonel General Sergei Karakaev."
            "... Karakaev noted that for testing model of the rocket complex "Sarmat"It was put at the 1st State Testing Cosmodrome. "
            http://www.interfax.ru/russia/603324

            Well, if Bondarev mention:
            "ABOUT mass production intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) "Sarmat"in the next year or two to speak prematurely"but several pre-production units will go into service in the near future, said Viktor Bondarev, head of the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security."
            http://www.interfax.ru/russia/602198
    2. Gray brother
      Gray brother 2 March 2018 18: 14
      +1
      Quote: keeper03
      It would be nice to make a demonstrative launch across the country or in the middle of the Pacific Ocean!

      Most likely they will shoot at Kura.
  5. nikolaev
    nikolaev 2 March 2018 18: 06
    0
    "soon" is yesterday?
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic 2 March 2018 18: 09
    +3
    Looking forward to the announcement of anti-gravity? good Or an underground supersonic train? lol belay
  7. Operator
    Operator 2 March 2018 18: 32
    0
    “Sarmat” with maneuvering warheads (and BB metamaterial stealth coating) is a serious and long-term.

    And all sorts of different "Daggers" and "Arctic foxes" - a temporary option for bringing the likely enemy to full prostration bully
    1. allegro
      allegro 2 March 2018 18: 43
      0
      maneuvering blocks stand on both "Satan" and "stylet" and up to 50 false blocks that cannot be distinguished from the real ones, so what's new
      1. Operator
        Operator 2 March 2018 19: 00
        0
        At the moment, there is only one maneuvering ICBM block in the world (Russian) - it is called the "Vanguard" and that only in the experimental-combat variant (for now).

        Maneuvering BBs were not installed on the Voivode and Stiletto due to their absence (tested in single instances with a negative result - yes).

        False targets are good, but BB metamaterial stealth coating of BB, which does not emit and does not reflect in the entire electromagnetic spectrum, is even better (although it works only in airless space).
        1. Danila75
          Danila75 2 March 2018 19: 37
          +1
          Quote: Operator
          At the moment, there is only one maneuvering ICBM block in the world (Russian) - it is called the "Vanguard" and that only in the experimental-combat variant (for now).

          Are you sure that in the experimental-combat version? Or maybe not the Vanguard, but call it by its real familiar name - Glider Yu-71 or object 4202? Do you recall when the conversation started about this development?
          Avant-garde, that is, Rubezh (RS-26) has been with us since 16, in a high degree of readiness for production.
          1. Operator
            Operator 2 March 2018 19: 59
            0
            I believe in the Supreme Commander, and he called the maneuvering BB "Vanguard", and not Yu-71 or the 4202 object, and especially not the RS-26 "Boundary".
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 2 March 2018 23: 16
          +2
          Quote: Operator
          At the moment there is only one maneuvering ICBM unit in the world (Russian) - called "Vanguard"

          A little educational program, with your permission, at the moment we have
          1. Uncontrollable design bureau (planning winged block) developed back in the 80s of the last century for the promising ICBM Albatros, which did not go into production due to START_1. The topic was closed, but the block remained. passed tests and entered service for ICBMXX
          2. Managed PCB, the so-called. Vanguard
          3. UBB (guided combat unit) is in service with the 15A18M missile of the R-36M2 complex (Voevoda), it is a missile combat unit that makes controlled movement in the area of ​​decline in dense layers of the atmosphere
          Maneuvers are usually called in the press
          all warheads flying in different directions from the ballistic trajectory, there is a lot of confusion in the open press and the Internet with the characteristics of military equipment, which causes numerous disputes
          1. Operator
            Operator 3 March 2018 19: 54
            0
            Under 3, I am only for.

            Let the Sarmat nomenclature include as many maneuvering warheads as possible (both planned and managed).
  8. allegro
    allegro 2 March 2018 18: 39
    +3
    fresh tradition and hard to believe, only porcelain, such products are tested not a day, not a week or a month, by 2028 they will be put into service, and by this time a lot of water will leak, everything will be forgotten, for 18 years not a damn thing was done, but over the last five
    1. bk316
      bk316 2 March 2018 18: 50
      +6
      One more. And in what year did you promise su-57? at 35?
      Put you all in one heap and bombarded you with "cardboard missiles" from "inflatable airplanes"
  9. APASUS
    APASUS 2 March 2018 19: 09
    +2
    Putin showed the world a master class in trolling his opponents!
    Yes, without all these new products, Russia is the first and only country that can destroy the United States with nuclear weapons, with 100% probability.
    Then Putin took one step in front and that's it! The world went out in discussions of his words!
    Now, if Poroshenko accidentally shoots himself from a stool, everyone will look for the answer to his actions in Putin’s words, there should be an encryption in his words
    Remember Commissioner Giber searched in Taxi 2, the code for Daniel's words
  10. gurzuf
    gurzuf 2 March 2018 19: 21
    0
    I believe that Kim Jong-un will be rented to Satan? laughing
  11. mydanik
    mydanik 2 March 2018 19: 27
    0
    This is all a lie. All Russian nuclear weapons have long been exported to the USA for 2000 + years.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 2 March 2018 22: 13
      +6
      Quote: mydanik
      This is all a lie. All Russian nuclear weapons have long been exported to the USA for 2000 + years.

      mydanik go drink some water yes
  12. Retired2012
    Retired2012 2 March 2018 20: 06
    +1
    I’m sure that there are no secrets for a long time — in Siberia, the one that’s making the rocket is the one that makes the missiles ..... Not so long ago Shoigu was there with the inspection, and before him Rogozin ..... They got ... bosses there, as usual but the trouble is that some kind of premises was built (let there be a workshop), but there are no WORKING SPECIALISTS ..... Cash allowance does not correspond to the classification of labor, but even retired factory workers! -do not want to be transferred to that workshop ... ...
  13. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 2 March 2018 20: 07
    +2
    I had a dream, and let it BEGINNING-entered America by morning-polite people. Trump, look out the window, well, and there’s nothing, our neutral flag flies over the white house !!! --- Let these are the words of the team, but what are they correct!
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 2 March 2018 20: 49
      +3
      Quote: NOC-VVS
      I had a dream, and let it BEGINNING-entered America by morning-polite people. Trump, look out the window, well, and there’s nothing, our neutral flag flies over the white house !!! --- Let these are the words of the team, but what are they correct!

      Everything can be ..))) Children are not in vain to create such drawings ..

      Angry us Russians EVERYTHING! And the "brothers" too ...
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 2 March 2018 20: 56
      +1
      Well, the words are correct.
      Every word has a second and third ... meaning.
  14. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 2 March 2018 20: 53
    0
    The pre-production ICBMs "Sarmat" will go into service with the Strategic Missile Forces in the near future

    Oh ho ho ....
    Is there definitely time?
  15. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 2 March 2018 20: 59
    +1
    Quote: MadCat
    Quote: Black_Jacket
    Tomorrow morning in the Washington Post morning issue: Washington's sharp increase in toilet paper prices is expected.

    does not cease to amaze the number of posts with "humor" on the basis of toiletries, it is not Americans who need a psychiatrist, I say for sure.


    Because diapers and toilet paper are included in the equipment of soldiers of the American, British and some other NATO armies. Although, therefore.
  16. Yarik
    Yarik 2 March 2018 21: 05
    0
    Not otherwise, some kind of new physics. Old to hell. Old - only for the New World and decaying Europe. One thing is clear, in order not to remain isolated on the site, you have to go vote for GDP. And not that .... By the way, the picture was remembered where ... in a word, lined up in a column one at a time and put their hands on the shoulder in front of going only leads him (or maybe not wassat ) goals ... who would you think? laughing
  17. Separ
    Separ 2 March 2018 22: 14
    +2
    Svarog,
    you probably didn’t live in the 60s and don’t know what is shitty and very shitty ..
  18. Old26
    Old26 2 March 2018 22: 30
    +4
    Well, it started. As with the "caliber", sheer euphoria. We will also hear many fairy tales and many storytellers, including and in uniform.

    [quote] I suggest that NATO classify this heavy ICBM under the name "Full Scribe" lol[/ Quote]
    They have already classified it. I came across the name "Satatn-2", but so far the rocket has not come into service with all the names that it is given - a fiction ...

    [quote] Many physicists, techies doubt that Putin voiced a relatively new weapon .. I’m not a techie .. But I’m also not sure that this is the full truth .. Our rocket launchers drop once, and then there are 20 misses. The eternal engine .. In general, if true .. then it’s very cool! But so many lies lately that there are doubts .. [/ quote]
    A lot of things in the president’s speech are a purely election stuffing and not all and not always can be fully realized now. There are a number of questions that have not been answered, and so far no. Wait and see what is real and what is fiction.

    [quote] But I still said, "look will be in 2018!". [/ quote]
    Well, Sarmatia will not be in 2018. And do not believe the tales of Bondarev,
    [quote] that in the near future the latest Sarmat missiles will be armed with missile units and formations of the Armed Forces of the country. It is noted that we are talking about pre-production intercontinental ballistic missiles. [/ Quote]

    Interestingly, he, being the commander in chief of the Air Force, also received pre-production models for service? Or they were tested. And in the Strategic Missile Forces, pre-production missiles in service are nonsense. This is not a tank or a plane that can be "driven" in trials, figuring out what is wrong in pre-production ...

    [quote] I hope to visit us in the Urals, in free mines ... We are waiting! [/ quote]
    Wait Vitalik a couple of years. Perhaps the first will come to you, and perhaps not to you, but to Altai. Yes, it is possible that the mines will have to be modernized, and this is still time. so wait a couple of years.

    [quote] A real option, in the Urals people are reliable, worthy of deploying missiles. smile[/ Quote]
    Are they unworthy in Altai? They do not deserve to have started the deployment of "Sarmat"? What nonsense are you talking about: reliable people or not reliable ...

    [quote] [quote = MIHAN] I hope to visit us in the Urals, in free mines .. [/ quote]
    Meehan hi ! And they stayed there, well, at least one? On duty, I had to go to the 59 of the Kartalin division of the Strategic Missile Forces, while (1977-78), she had 46 silos and 7 military control units. In 2003. thanks to the eternally blue Ural koldir, the division was disbanded and disintegrated to the applause of the overseas inspectors. The missiles are disassembled, sawn, the mines are blown up. So start digging the mine, otherwise they will not be allocated to the Urals laughing Well, this is a proof for verifying words. One of the 46 silos (or rather its remains)[/ Quote]
    Well, the Kartalin division has been disbanded, and accordingly the mines have been disposed of. 13th - alive and mines, from which rockets had already been withdrawn, have not yet been destroyed and are classified as non-deployed

    [quote] It would be nice to make an indicative launch across the country or to the middle of the Pacific! wassat good[/ Quote]
    No need to run ahead of the engine. Let the casting pass first. Then we can talk about PMD. According to the "Water Area".

    [quote] So we flew already ... And successfully! [/ quote]
    Who flew? Are you dear, so wildly delighted with the cartoon shown to you yesterday that you are not able to think soberly? Where did you fly? At the end of the year there was only THROWING START. I hope you do not need to decipher what it is? This is when the PAD is triggered, the rockets are thrown from the mine to a certain height. Then, most often, the engine turns on for 3-5 seconds, which leads the rocket away from the mine. On the second plot, the launch of the R-36M UTTX is generally. And most likely it was made 5-7 years ago from the PR of the Uzhur division ...

    [quote] [quote = Ryazanets87] "Sarmatian"? In December 2017, only the first throw tests were, with a delay of 1,5 years. [/ Quote]
    Do you know about all the trials of Sarmat, or only about the ones that Wiki dug up? Next ... [/ quote]
    Well, the comrade is right. There were only throwing trials and that’s all. There were no others. Talked about these tests incl. and the president.

    [quote] [quote = Ryazanets87] Further ... The modernization of the Voivode has already been three times. More until you turn blue, you can’t extend the service life .. [/ quote]
    So modernization or PSE?

    [quote] [quote = Ryazanets87] And now to our sheep ... do you know at what stage of readiness Sarmat is at the moment? . [/ quote]
    Do you know? Do you know how many “Sarmatians” were made for throwing tests ??? Do you know why the term BI has shifted right?

    [quote] [quote = Ryazanets87] But I think that Sarmat will begin to go on duty either at the end of this year, or next. . [/ quote]
    Repeat after Boldyrev that pre-production missiles will go on combat duty. It is known how many test launches and which specifically will be in 2018. Tests, of course, will begin in 2018, but God forbid that they end in 2019, if not in 2020. Even used products like 15A18 have 19 launches as part of flight tests, and Voevoda generally 26. Here, the design bureau never didn’t make rockets of such a mass and to think that they would cost 1-2 tests is silly

    [quote] On the Kura most likely to be shot. [/ quote]
    First, along the Kura River, then possibly along the "Water Area"

    [quote] maneuvering blocks are on both "Satan" and "stylet" and up to 50 false blocks that cannot be distinguished from the real ones, so what's new [/ quote]
    There are no maneuvering units on the Satan. Tests in the 80s block 15F178 passed, but did not go into the series. On the "Stiletto" is worthless due to the fact that the "stylet" is no longer among the deployed missiles. An experimental rocket created on its basis, known as 15A35-71, or 15A71, it is also 15Y71 (complex 15P771) is actually used to test the product, better known as 4202, but only for testing and with one or two mines in the PR 13 division
    How many false blocks on the "Satan" no one knows. Heavy there can be installed from 4 to 8, because they are smaller in size and on the breeding platform there are 4 seats.

    [quote] I believe that Satan will be leased to Kim Jong-un? laughing[/ Quote]
    And do not agree to go there yourself for rent? Three to four years old. so you don’t offer such a thing?

    [quote] I believe the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, and he called the maneuvering BB "Vanguard", and not Yu-71 or object 4202 and even more so not RS-26 "Rubezh." [/ quote]
    Well, what was the Supreme supposed to call him? Yu-71 - so this is not a maneuvering unit, but a rocket on which it is tested. It is called 15Y71. It is based on the 15A35 missile. After modernization, it was called 15A35-71 or 15A71.
    The second (industrial) name is 4202. And now the RS-26 Rubezh never was associated with the 4202 block.

    [quote] Glider Yu-71 [/ quote]
    Or maybe it's not worth repeating journalistic notions. This Glider or 4202 is tested on 15Y71 rockets, the name of which the journalists turned into the Glider Yu-71.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 2 March 2018 22: 50
      +1
      Quote: Old26
      Or maybe it's not worth repeating journalistic notions. This Glider or 4202 is tested on 15Y71 rockets, the name of which the journalists turned into the Glider Yu-71.

      That's how even .. Why, then such a huge comment? .. heh heh ..
      Quote: Old26
      Well, it started. As with the "caliber", sheer euphoria. We will also hear many fairy tales and many storytellers, including and in uniform.

      Strange you, in your statement ..! Such balabol, usually do not trust! hi
      I smell such "specialists" for a long time already ..
      1. Nikolai Passerby
        Nikolai Passerby 3 March 2018 12: 22
        0
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Such balabol, usually do not trust!

        You have defined yourself very accurately.
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov 3 March 2018 12: 44
          0
          Quote: Nikolai Passerby
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Such balabol, usually do not trust!

          You have defined yourself very accurately.

          I agree ...! Chatting, do not press the ICBM launch buttons ... soldier
          1. Nikolai Passerby
            Nikolai Passerby 3 March 2018 15: 29
            0
            Quote: MIKHAN
            I agree ...!

            Do not be offended please ... I just go to VO to cheer myself up. You read so the comments of the military couch field marshals, and the truth appears.
  19. Ascetic
    Ascetic 2 March 2018 22: 42
    +2
    Svarog,
    Quote: Svarog
    Our rocket launchers fall once, and then 20 misses

    There is such a thing as cruising or marching speed of the RC and there is the speed of approach or attack of the target, and at the final stage of the flight, the speed of the RC reaches maximum values ​​... despite the fact that the rocket descends to the minimum permissible height and performs an active maneuver immediately before the attack (usually a hill ) .. therefore, at such a speed it flies a few seconds, which is quite real.
  20. Old26
    Old26 3 March 2018 08: 53
    +2
    Quote: MIKHAN
    That's how even .. Why, then such a huge comment? .. heh heh ..

    And there not only to you and not so much to you. there is an answer to that nonsense that Boldyrev carries. But will you also perceive it as the ultimate truth? Perceive !!!

    Quote: MIKHAN
    Strange you, in your statement ..! Such balabol, usually do not trust! hi
    I smell such "specialists" for a long time already ..

    Of course weird. For I do not always support the general opinion in everything. And then they showed us a candy in a box, or rather a wrapper from a candy and everything from euphoria is already drowning in ecstasy.

    You can “smell” anything and for any long time. It's your problems. It’s just the difference between you and me that you “sense”. and I draw my conclusions on the fact that I “KNOW”. And when the general, even with big stars, tells me that the Strategic Missile Forces will soon be put into service PRE-SERIES missiles, am I supposed to scream from this delirium with delight? You can squeal. I will not do this.

    If the president did GORGEOUS TACTICAL PRE-ELECTION, then this does not mean at all that everything that he said almost tomorrow will be in service. Some samples will not appear tomorrow, or maybe in 10 years. The same "nuclear cruise missile" on which techies have much more questions than answers.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 3 March 2018 12: 49
      0
      Quote: Old26
      And there not only to you and not so much to you. there is an answer to that nonsense that Boldyrev carries. But will you also perceive it as the ultimate truth? Perceive !!!

      Well, I perceive and what ..? Again you have a lot of buffff hehe
      You are obviously upset with something ... bully Well, it happens before the election ..
  21. bamoves
    bamoves 3 March 2018 09: 00
    +1
    Svarog,
    maybe it’s shitty for you, that’s fine for us, we’re not living hard, we drink at lunch and dinner !!!
  22. Nikolai Passerby
    Nikolai Passerby 3 March 2018 12: 17
    0
    Those who are not brought to mind will risk putting several missiles on combat duty? Something interesting is happening in the minds of the country's leadership ...
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 3 March 2018 12: 53
      0
      Quote: Nikolai Passerby
      Those who are not brought to mind will risk putting several missiles on combat duty? Something interesting is happening in the minds of the country's leadership ...

      Enough is enough for us, those already standing ..! Why are you all so excited gentlemen ..? bully
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  23. Old26
    Old26 3 March 2018 12: 49
    0
    Quote: Nikolai Passerby
    Those who are not brought to mind will risk putting several missiles on combat duty? Something interesting is happening in the minds of the country's leadership ...

    This is not in the minds of the country's leadership. This is most often voiced by "talking heads" who used to wear shoulder straps. some still wear it, but this does not stop them from carrying a blizzard. At one of the forums, I liked the statement of one comrade regarding such "experts" in the Duma, the Federation Council, and the Moscow Region. But especially in relation to those who are no longer in service. The phrase sounded something like this:
    "It seems that, having left military service, they, together with secret literature (secret notebooks), surrender their brains in secret". But they believe them: Well, the whole general said. One such general argued that the 100-ton Sarmat throws 10 tons of cargo to the enemy and no difference through the North Pole or South (although you do not need to be seven spans in the forehead to understand that one in 10 thousand and 30 thousand is one and the same rocket will not throw the same load).
    The second claimed that the western missile defense would hit our missiles 180 seconds after the launch (and he was (?) Deputy chief of the GOU General Staff of the Russian Federation). And it’s nonsense that then the missiles no longer exist, that the breeding is already underway, the BB, or it has already ended. After all, the general said that they would bring down missiles - then he must be trusted. So Boldyrev already pre-production is going to put into service
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 3 March 2018 13: 26
      0
      Quote: Old26
      It seems that after leaving military service, they, together with secret literature (secret notebooks), give their brains in secret. "

      laughing bully Some have it ... ha ha ha ... well, stop whining already!
      Quote: Old26
      After all, the general said that the rockets would be shot down - that means he must be trusted. So Boldyrev already pre-production is going to put into service

      Well, what are you so divided then ..? Well said and said ... heh heh drink valerian ..!
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  24. Old26
    Old26 3 March 2018 14: 54
    +1
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Some have it ... ha ha ha ... well, stop whining already!

    Vitalik! Maybe it’s enough for others to say what to do and how to live?
    As they usually say "I don’t have to say what to do and I won’t tell you where to go."
    You play the role of a clown on the resource - play on and on ...

    Quote: MIKHAN
    Well, what are you so divided then ..? Well said and said ... heh heh drink valerian ..!

    Drink it yourself. Looks like you're already hooked on her completely. Slurp it further. And I'd rather indulge in cognac if there is a mood
  25. Netzah netzah
    Netzah netzah 3 March 2018 14: 58
    +2
    In 2017, they conducted the first throw tests of Sarmat (they were shown exactly at Putin’s speech, though they supplemented with a rocket flight, to which it was as far as the moon). From the start of testing to adoption, it takes at least five years. Wait.
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    2. Yarik
      Yarik 3 March 2018 18: 28
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      Netzah Netzah Today, 14:58 PM New
      In 2017, they conducted the first throw tests of Sarmat (they were shown exactly at Putin’s speech, though they supplemented with a rocket flight, to which it was as far as the moon). From the start of testing to adoption, it takes at least five years. Wait.

      But we bet that in the next presidential election, our missiles will be dispersed before the audience to no longer Mach 20, but ... light. The president-guarantor, said he did. laughing
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    Old26 3 March 2018 16: 34
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    Quote: Nikolai Passerby
    Quote: Netzah Netzah
    From the start of testing to adoption, it takes at least five years. Wait.

    It was by Soviet standards. Judging by the current, these terms will stretch for a long time ... Until all the money is cut. And a lot of money ...

    Well, the next two test launches are scheduled for the first half of this year. That look in the second half of the year may be a couple of launches within the framework of LI (of course, if they are successful). Maybe for 2019 flight tests will be completed. We will see