In the US, they warned that they could not pull the cost of F-35

The cost of the American fighter of the fifth generation F-35 is too high, and in the future, these costs may become too heavy for the military budget, said Vice Admiral Mat Winter.

Winter, who is responsible for implementing the F-35 armament program, which costs 400 billions of dollars, stressed that the work is continuing, but the excessive cost of the machine is disturbing.

The price is going down, but it’s not going down fast enough

- quotes the military newspaper The Washington Examiner.

The vice admiral warned that while maintaining the current dynamics of the F-35 price reduction and the planned increase in the number of these aircraft from 280 to more than 800 by the end of 2021, the aircraft would be "very heavy" for the existing program budget.

The F-35 Lightning II is the second serial fighter of the fifth generation after the F-22 Raptor. The aircraft were regularly criticized, including by President Donald Trump.

Repeatedly also reported various technical problems, reports RIA News.

Comments

[The black]

In the US, they warned that they could not pull the cost of F-35

Let the father take all the Sumerians into debt, ask him to hang another loan on his people ... ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: Black

Let the father of all Sumerians borrow

Did the star-striped printer break down?

[The black]

Quote: Piramidon

Did the star-striped printer break down?

It is possible .... do not forget about Russian hackers

[supertiger21]

The cost of the fifth-generation American fighter F-35 is too high

Winter, responsible for the implementation of the F-35 weapons program, which costs up to $ 400 billion

It is clear that the international program to create three versions of the F-35 aircraft costs decent money. But where does the price directly per unit? Depending on the modification, it costs $ 94-122 million, which is a reasonable price for a brand new 5th generation fighter. And given that next year the large-scale production of Lightning will begin to become cheaper.

[1c-inform-city]

This is a crafty price. In order not to annoy the people and the congress, the Pentagon has for some time been indicating prices for an airplane without the cost of an engine, which is plus 50%. Sleight of hand and no fraud!

[Avis-bis]

Quote: 1c-inform-city

plane prices without engine cost

By the way, it’s a very real option. For all aircraft developers, the glider and propulsion system are considered separately. At first it was a blessing: flexibility in the selection of engines in the interests of the customer, then ...
And for the vast majority, this is reflected in terminology. For us, this is reflected in the name of some specialties of IAS. For example, "CD" ("airplane and engine" - the concepts are interrelated, but not identical). In English, "frame" is not the same as "A / C assembly." :)

plus 50%

"... plus one hundred%." :) After all, a “frame” (including avionics) is only 50% of the cost of a fully assembled “H / C”, and an equal-cost engine adds these same “100% to the cost of a“ frame ”and becomes 50 percent in value complete aircraft. :)
Yes, ample opportunities for verbal and numerical balancing. :)

[HAPA]

Quote: 1c-inform-city

This is a crafty price. In order not to annoy the people and the congress, the Pentagon has for some time been indicating prices for an airplane without the cost of an engine, which is plus 50%. Sleight of hand and no fraud!

hmm ... lying is not good.
Valuable F-35 including engine.
Lot 10 9., including jet, engine and fee are as follows:
F-35A: $ 94.6 million (7.3% reduction from Lot 9)
engine price of 12-13 million. This is not 50%.

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: supertiger21

The cost of the fifth-generation American fighter F-35 is too high

Winter, responsible for the implementation of the F-35 weapons program, which costs up to $ 400 billion

It is clear that the international program to create three versions of the F-35 aircraft costs decent money. But where does the price directly per unit? Depending on the modification, it costs $ 94-122 million, which is a reasonable price for a brand new 5th generation fighter. And given that next year the large-scale production of Lightning will begin to become cheaper.

Who said that the number of machines in operation reduces their maintenance costs? If, after sticking to Trump, 20 million (apparently a piece of fat mortgaged for each) flew off the price of this device, the cost of the service almost proportionally increased. And remained at the same level of 480 million. This refers to the entire period of operation. Airplanes suddenly began to sell without dvigunov. After the FINAL, LAST, CAPITAL refinement of the software, and arming it with the finally promised mallet, the price can not only return, but also jump.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: wkd dvk

Who said that the number of machines in operation reduces their maintenance costs?

A life. Actually, this is so axiomatic that there is even nothing to discuss and argue about.

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: Avis-bis

Quote: wkd dvk

Who said that the number of machines in operation reduces their maintenance costs?

A life. Actually, this is so axiomatic that there is even nothing to discuss and argue about.

You do not know how to think.
This would be true if all this armada was concentrated in one (or closely located places)
Repair plant, a bunch of specialists working in three shifts, crowds of support staff, from watchmen to top managers.
But how are the costs of escorting a couple of dozen of these pieces of iron in Israel reduced by the fact that three pieces were delivered to Bangla Desh? Modifications, and then different. That's the total cost of maintenance, around the world who bought them, is increasing. Everywhere you need managers, watchmen, engineers, and so on. Even if the number of them in this place are counted in units.
Thoughtful references to life are permissible if one is familiar with it.
.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: wkd dvk

You do not know how to think.
Thoughtful references to life are permissible if one is familiar with it.
.

Fine. They gave you a mirror. Now learn to use it.
Your second posting is just a bunch of words and it is useless to comment on it.

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: Avis-bis

Quote: wkd dvk

You do not know how to think.
Thoughtful references to life are permissible if one is familiar with it.
.

Fine. They gave you a mirror. Now learn to use it.
Your second posting is just a bunch of words and it is useless to comment on it.

Right. This requires quick wits.
And where to get?

[Avis-bis]

Quote: wkd dvk

quick wit.
And where to get?

I will not say. Break everything equal.

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: Avis-bis

Quote: wkd dvk

Who said that the number of machines in operation reduces their maintenance costs?

A life. Actually, this is so axiomatic that there is even nothing to discuss and argue about.

I will continue. Suppose contracts are signed with Israel, delivery has begun. And so, a new buyer has been found. In Bangla Desh. The series has increased. Cost has fallen. The price has become lower. So, will the contract and prices for the extra delivery of the last airplanes to Israel be revised, and will it be reduced in the course of the delivery? And will Norway be returned the amounts resulting from lower prices due to increased output? How is life whispering to you?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Black

Let the father of all Sumerians borrow

Did the star-striped printer break down?

exorbitant corruption is not covered by any printer !!!

[poquello]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Black

Let the father of all Sumerians borrow

Did the star-striped printer break down?

the speed of the printer is limited by the trust of partners, otherwise this “take it I’ll draw” may bring it to the resolution of the problem and conclude that “the beaver is dead”

[Tusv]

Quote: Piramidon

Did the star-striped printer break down?

Do you think that from a good life they invented Bitcoin? Where to borrow, so as not to take. That is the question

[Kent0001]

Bolivar will not pull so much .....

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Piramidon

Did the star-striped printer break down?

The most profitable production in the world is the production of American green paper with portraits of their presidents. Is it possible that the USA will refuse such a business ???? I think no.
And then - if Australia buys them, DOES AMERICA really not have enough money for them? No wonder Trump canceled the limit on debt ???? 18 of trillions is far from the limit - the printing press in a private shop called the Fed is still working ...

[Lynx33]

The productivity of the old printer is too small, the new time to put, the 5th generation :)

[Monos]

The admiral simply does not understand why he should spend money on this.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Monos

The admiral simply does not understand why he should spend money on this.

Victor or maybe not involved in the cut

[Ncplc]

Yes, where are they to the super cool and super cheap SU 57. He’s worth a penny and he’s not a burden to Russia.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Ncplc

Yes, where are they to the super cool and super cheap SU 57. He’s worth a penny and he’s not a burden to Russia.

deserved

[Tusv]

Quote: Ncplc

Yes, where are they to the super cool and super cheap SU 57

Why are you jerking? The Su-27 began to enter the air defense forces with an awesome delay from the F-15 and on the move began to drive everything that flies and still drives

[Ncplc]

Apparently I have sclerosis, remind me where SU 27 drove F15 or at least F16, honestly, I don’t remember))

[bobba94]

And what's so strange? The 4th generation Russian multipurpose nuclear submarine Yasen M costs 47 billion rubles. Its full counterpart, the 4th generation Sivulf American multipurpose nuclear submarine, costs $ 4,3 billion. Technical characteristics, parameters, crew size, armament, etc. they have 1 to 1, straight twin brothers. But here is the cost ....

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Ncplc

Yes, where are they to the super cool and super cheap SU 57. He’s worth a penny and he’s not a burden to Russia.

Under the flag of Israel, run in something Russian - but nothing new here, in VO, no one heard ....

[Monos]

My respect, Bob!

Quote: Partyzan

or maybe not involved in the cut

That is unlikely. But Trump cut it to them.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Monos

But trump cut them trump.

increasing your budget?

[Monos]

Quote: Partyzan

increasing your budget?

Reduced Lockheed's appetites.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Monos

Reduced Lockheed's appetites.

but the generals are sawing and not for the dec, the 1 billion left the Pentagon and no one knows where, and this is only official

[Monos]

Quote: Partyzan

but the generals are sawing and not for the dec, the 1 billion left the Pentagon and no one knows where, and this is only official

Everyone has different feeders. Judging by the position, Lockheed is pouring this into the trough.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Monos

Judging by the position, Lockheed is pouring this into the trough.

judging by the position - he tells the lohida how much he needs, and he tries to raise the price - and then we will not take direct blackmail - (like the classics - turn off the gas)

[Kent0001]

..that they got it.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Kent0001

..that they got it.

you will throw such it’s he who goes to kidalovo — don’t roll back —

[Observer2014]

Monos

The admiral just does not understand why spend money on this

Little of! Lord Thank God that the Americans have such projects as this f 35 What would we do if they began to spend their pieces of paper on really sensible technology

[Monos]

Greetings, Sergey!

Quote: Observer2014

What would we do if they began to spend their pieces of paper on really sensible technology

Yes, the same thing. As GDP said, the main thing is people, not technology!

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Monos

The admiral just does not understand why spend money on this

Vitya, when you have a watch junk - what are you doing? That's right: you go to the watchmaker. But if such a breakdown is repeated at regular intervals? Such watches are thrown out or changed under warranty.

[Partyzan]

Quote: bouncyhunter

or change under warranty.

But is there a guarantee for the fu-35?

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Partyzan

But is there a guarantee for the fu-35?

The question is not addressed: the manufacturer or warranty workshops should ask about this.

[Ncplc]

Partizan. Here you like to tinker with everything "but is there a guarantee for the fu-35? »Maybe it’s time for us to call your plane СРУ 57 as you like that name?

[Monos]

Quote: Ncplc

maybe it’s time for us to call your aircraft the 57 as your name?

Yes to us your "creativity" sideways. And what are you so offended by the overlord? Ahhh ... You also fly on this junk ... Write a will just in case.

[poquello]

Quote: Monos

You also fly on this junk ... Write a will just in case. smile

or go to something more reliable

[Thirsty for wind]

how many hours did the bath fly? Do you know the fairy tale about porridge from an ax?

[poquello]

Quote: Thirsty for the wind

how many hours did the bath fly? Do you know the fairy tale about porridge from an ax?

but already planning 800 pieces and a few to transfer to Israel?

[Partyzan]

Quote: Ncplc

maybe we

really want more awards? you are welcome

[Ncplc]

Are you offering me something? That is not worth the tea you wear, it suits you)) And I took the only oath and this was in the Israeli army.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Ncplc

And I took the only oath, and that was in the Israeli army.

where were you born? Russian is wonderful

[Lieutenant]

Apparently they spawn in Russia.

[Lieutenant]

How much are God's chosen trolls worth today?

[Ascetic]

Quote: Partyzan

But is there a guarantee for the fu-35?

there is ... from the S-400, knocks down guaranteed

[Partyzan]

Quote: Ascetic

there is ... from the S-400, it knocks down guaranteed

no, well it's not a guarantee - it's

[Paranoid50]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Such watches are thrown out or changed under warranty.

Here we recall a bike about Japanese watches and crazy Russian tourists who made a refund after a "guarantee" case. After their visit to the watch salon there was a sign "DO NOT BOIL THE HOURS !!!"

[bouncyhunter]

Alexander I heard this story about a Swiss watch.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: bouncyhunter

about the Swiss watch.

Paul Duc, then she and the bike. It’s interesting, how shockproof and waterproof are the mattress expensive F-35 watches (for example, to what depth)?

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Paranoid50

It’s interesting, how shockproof and waterproof are the mattress expensive F-35 watches (for example, to what depth)?

And it is necessary to ask the final benefits. Only advertising is not taken into account.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Only advertising is not taken into account.

Well then, we definitely won’t get any information.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Paranoid50

Well then, we definitely won’t get any information.

ABOUT ! This is what I had in mind!

[Partyzan]

Quote: bouncyhunter

And it is necessary to ask the final benefits.

well, they’re useful, it’s not an iterator, they even managed to giggle the MiG-29, but it’s practically not killed, in the sense of exploitation

[Partyzan]

Quote: bouncyhunter

I heard this story about a Swiss watch.

Well, it means they didn’t

[bouncyhunter]

Different storytellers simply twisted this story to the best of their imagination, but I have no doubt that such a story took place.

[Partyzan]

Quote: bouncyhunter

but I have no doubt that such a story took place.

here I have no doubt, our doperli how to compress them

[Monos]

Great, Pasha!

Quote: bouncyhunter

when you have a watch junk - what are you doing?

Does he still have a problem with the watch? Not otherwise, as Moscow always shows?

[bouncyhunter]

Vit It is not a matter of hours, but how their gears interact with teeth.

[Tusv]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Vitya, when you have a watch junk - what are you doing? Right: go to the watchmaker

Come on, Pasha. They gave me a Vostok watch. Shockproof, with automatic lift and up to 10 meters under water. 10 years plowed and are now working, if you knock on the knee. To clean them, but the trouble is chagrin. Do not crack
You have to periodically buy smartphones (thank the Chinese - the budget does not suffer)
What am I talking about. So for a long time it’s necessary to untap production in China and not bother about the budget

[Zoldat_A]

Pasha! Very and very !

Quote: bouncyhunter

Such watches are thrown out or changed under warranty.

Only it is unlikely that anyone in Australia will change these “flying bank cards” under warranty. It seems to me....

[bouncyhunter]

Alexey, categorically !

Quote: Zoldat_A

Only it is unlikely that anyone in Australia will change these “flying bank cards” under warranty.

The Australians themselves will mess with this Lego-go constructor. Well, or swash striped (which mattresses are clearly counting on).

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: bouncyhunter

The Australians themselves will mess with this Lego-go constructor

So, our identities can earn money somewhere "... And they have a" technological map ", which replaces both GOSTs and SNIPs - and anything else - just to pay dollars ....
Australia - a country of convicts and adventurers - is hardly capable of something "file" .....

[Avis-bis]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Australia - a country of convicts and adventurers - is hardly capable of something "file" .....

Just to finish with them it turned out well: they independently modified many British planes. Yes, and there are own developments. Mostly for light aviation.

[Slovak]

Quote: Monos

The admiral simply does not understand why he should spend money on this.

Well done mattresses, divorced allies! They spent tremendous funds on development, collected tribute from vassals, awarded contracts, received an advance payment, already delivered to someone, promised to someone, and as a result, all hemorrhoids except for them ...

[Partyzan]

Quote: Slovak

and in the end, solid hemorrhoids in all but them ...

the main thing to jump on time

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Slovak

Well done mattresses, divorced allies! They spent tremendous funds on development, collected tribute from vassals, awarded contracts, received an advance payment, already delivered to someone, promised to someone, and as a result, all hemorrhoids except for them ...

Where can I put a hundred pluses?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Monos

The admiral simply does not understand why he should spend money on this.

He understands everything perfectly. Just in front of the 11 lot, the Pentagon begins to bargain with Lockheed and even hints at an administrative resource.

Negotiations on Lot 11 started about 18 months ago, and although Winter previously said he hoped for a signed deal by the end of 2017, it has taken a while for the new Pentagon leadership to get fully up to speed on the program, he noted.
Lockheed Martin “could be more cooperative” on the negotiations, he said. “They could be more collaborative ... they choose not to. It's a negotiating tactic. " It's far too early to think about imposing a “unilateral” deal, as happened on Lot 10, Winter said. That was and is “a last resort,” he added.
Asked if President Trump should “get involved” in the F-35 negotiations, Winter said the civilian Pentagon leadership is kept fully updated on progress, and “how they choose to use that information is at their discretion.” (

[Partyzan]

Aaron I'm sorry for my English, but translate, otherwise it’s not camille

Negotiations on Lot 11 began about 18 months ago, and although Winter said he was hoping for a deal by the end of 2017, the new Pentagon leadership took some time to fully accelerate the program, he said.
Lockheed Martin “could work more together,” in the negotiations, he said. “They could be more collaborative ... they decided not to. This is a negotiation tactic. “It is too early to think about imposing a“ one-sided ”deal, as happened in lot 10,” said Winter. This was and is “the last resort,” he added.
Asked if President Trump should “participate” in the F-35 talks, Winter said the Pentagon’s civilian leadership is fully informed of the progress and “how they decide to use this information as they see fit.”

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Partyzan

Aaron I'm sorry for my English, but translate, otherwise it’s not camille

You have brilliant English. It would be better if I didn’t translate.

[Partyzan]

thanks for the complement, but I know that it’s hard for me to translate - I think in RUSSIAN

[KonoGon]

Quote: Partyzan

I think in RUSSIAN

You won’t think in Russian, you won’t translate correctly ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

You have brilliant English. It would be better if I didn’t translate.

You haven’t heard “facing inglisi” performed by Russian soldiers ... you would have liked more than “Romeo and Juliet” in the original .....

[Monos]

Aron, you have a holiday. Congratulations.

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Just before the 11 lot, the Pentagon begins to bargain

It's clear. But so frankly ... So we have fun.

[newcomer]

Nehai buy Ukrainian attack aircraft MIG29.

[siberalt]

The trouble is not that the project is expensive, but that selling them is a problem. Not everyone can afford a toy.

[Zoldat_A]

Oleg, !

Quote: siberalt

the trouble is not that the project is expensive, but that selling them is a problem.

So sell same helmets of Australia at the price of our RD ..... Really comparable? I do not know.......

[Avis-bis]

Quote: Black

In the US, they warned that they could not pull the cost of F-35

Let the father take all the Sumerians into debt, ask him to hang another loan on his people ... ...

I’m afraid that the stock quote (or how is it right?) Of all the assets of Ukraine is equal to the cost of one F-35. Well, one squadron is the maximum assumption ...

[vadson]

Quote: Avis-bis

Quote: Black

In the US, they warned that they could not pull the cost of F-35

Let the father take all the Sumerians into debt, ask him to hang another loan on his people ... ...

I’m afraid that the stock quote (or how is it right?) Of all the assets of Ukraine is equal to the cost of one F-35. Well, one squadron is the maximum assumption ...

Yes, no, they can take 10 pieces of gunpowder, they will scrape together for 100, I think, though they will remain without pants. there the service team will get out in a couple of planes, but it doesn’t matter

[Avis-bis]

Quote: vadson

the truth will remain without pants

I talked about this.

[Maz]

Let partners vtyuhivayut.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Maz

Let partners vtyuhivayut.

That’s exactly what they’ll do, you Maz is an expert on all the ins and outs of world politics (as a former resident of the "promised" land)))
You are always right! (It’s not for nothing that "comrades from Israel" do not like you so much.)))
They scatter all their costs in NATO countries and do not have to too .. hehe
And they will remain in profit!

[newcomer]

well, we at VO have already determined this for a long time. if it’s serious, then the Yankees warriors are in full swing from this 35th.

[Partyzan]

Quote: newbie

Yankee warriors with might and main unlocked from this 35th.

let them buy - remember them the USSR

[newcomer]

a good option!

[Partyzan]

Quote: newbie

a good option!

they need the same yes in the same place

[Strashila]

"In the USA they warned that they could" not pull "the costs of the F-35" ... so everyone who can can get it ... will shift the burden of value to the allies.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: Strashila

shift the burden of value on allies.

For the first time or something ... That is how they, with the help of Lend-Lease and the "Marshall Plan", "leaked" their Great Depression abroad.

[bouncyhunter]

Hi, hello!

Quote: Avis-bis

That is how they, with the help of Lend-Lease and the “Marshall Plan,” “leaked” their Great Depression abroad.

Without words - just applaud!

[vadson]

they still pour it all over the world

[bouncyhunter]

As long as there is silence from the discontented, they will continue this.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Hi, hello!

Hi Paul! :)

[bouncyhunter]

Are you back I am sincerely glad! My friendship is strong.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Avis-bis

My friendship is strong.

and mine

[izya top]

come on? all the "allies" twisted their hands so that they not only invested in development, but also bought

[Vlad Morozov]

Trump lied ?! More than 700 yards of the military budget is a bluffff !!!?

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Vlad Morozov

Trump lied ?! More than 700 yards of the military budget is a bluffff !!!?

Little, simple. It takes 9700 lard.

[RUS33]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Black

Let the father of all Sumerians borrow

Did the star-striped printer break down?

The paint is over ....

[Operator]

Everything is much simpler - the tests of the Su-57 in a combat situation in Syria became the last nail in the coffin of the “Flying Pig” F-35.

It is pleasant to recall how our Israeli "compatriots" - free owners of several copies of it - drowned for pigs at VO

[BVS]

Is the fact of the "test of the Su-57 in a combat situation in Syria" really become a nail? These tests have not given any positive or negative thoughts for the "nail". The meetings of the SU-57 and F-35 were neither training, nor fighting. While all the "fights" between them are outreach, the score is equal. Will watch. Somehow so far.

[Ncplc]

And what is it equal to? The fact that Sru 57 can fly a pancake or make a bell or a cobra? So for a rocket, this is a static target, nothing more, and he does it all at a speed close to stalling, the simultaneous WB resembles at speeds of 700-900 km / h, I would like to look at least with one eye what will happen to a flyer on a cobra at such a speed) )))

[poquello]

Quote: Ncplc

And what is it equal to? The fact that Sru 57 can fly a pancake or make a bell or a cobra? So for a rocket, this is a static target, nothing more, and he does it all at a speed close to stalling, the simultaneous WB resembles at speeds of 700-900 km / h, I would like to look at least with one eye what will happen to a flyer on a cobra at such a speed) )))

I watched the hope about SM, there was an interview with our master of air duels, and as if all these elements have a combat continuation

[Partyzan]

Quote: poquello

and as if all these elements have a combat continuation

and not only ours will continue, but a fat turkey will simply fall

[Ncplc]

And this “master" participated in what fights? With whom? When or you have a “master” for the number of flight hours given, then yes it’s definitely a “master”.

[Monos]

What do you give for? For boarding and landing on a plane and flying around Lebanon?

[poquello]

Quote: Ncplc

And this “master" participated in what fights? With whom? When or you have a “master” for the number of flight hours given, then yes it’s definitely a “master”.

ahem, Kharchevsky A.N., more than 50 international - not a single loss

[Okolotochny]

In the fact that when the Sru-57 is in the air, Israel will shave.

[Operator]

Quote: bvs

The SU-57 and F-35 meetings were neither training, nor fighting

How do you know this?

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: Operator

Quote: bvs

The SU-57 and F-35 meetings were neither training, nor fighting

How do you know this?

With the advent of SUSHEK, the Americans removed their blindness. Hence the complete absence of presence.

[CAT BAIYUN]

C'mon guys! We got down to business - so finish it! How is this: the most important glavnyuki on the planet and no money ?!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: CAT BAYUN

C'mon guys! We got down to business - so finish it! How is this: the most important glavnyuki on the planet and no money ?!

Yes, usually ..)))

Only in dollars now ... And God forbid in RMB!

[Alexander War]

Meehan that's what photo you need

[bouncyhunter]

Vasya, hello! So again, funds are needed for sawing - who will pay for the new saws ???

[CAT BAIYUN]

Evening, Pasha
How is that? Another couple of countries such as Ukraine will lie down under democracy, you look and stretch out for another five years .. Well, if not, then they will increase the size of the allowed public debt, they will cut up cut paper ... Enough for the saws .. I’m all thinking - when this financial bubble will burst ....

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: KOT BYUN

I’m all thinking - when this financial bubble bursts ....

You are not alone. When it bursts, the whole world slurps with its stinky stinks.

[Andrey Ivanov]

Quote: KOT BYUN

How is this: the most important glavnyuki on the planet and no money ?!

After speaking at the GDP Meeting, now no printing press will pay the US defense for her phrase, well, I couldn’t.

[KVU-NSVD]

Well, or again, "the ceiling of the public debt will be raised" or limited to a couple - three hundred hundreds of letaks following the example of the Lizard, well, with a hundred allies shove. It is unlikely that it will be possible to reduce radically the cost.

[Ascetic]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

It is unlikely that it will be possible to reduce radically the cost.

An hour of flight F-22 costs $ 20 thousand. F-35 will be equal to 24 thousand dollars. It is the highest in the world. operating cost fighter.

[Andrey Ivanov]

Quote: Ascetic

An hour of flight F-22 costs $ 20 thousand. F-35 will be equal to 24 thousand dollars. This is the highest cost of operating a fighter in the world.

The flight hour of our 31st with the Dagger is much cheaper.

[Bronevick]

Now the first Su-34 flew over Chelyaba, oh and beautiful. He is much quieter than the 24th.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Bronevick

Now the first Su-34 flew over Chelyaba, oh and beautiful. He is much quieter than the 24th.

How was this considered at night?
I, purely, to inquire. Without any back-harmful meanings.

[Bronevick]

Have you seen what moon? Everything was visible. The pilots even smiled as they liked the car.

[Vasyan1971]

Oh how! Abalde!

[poquello]

Quote: Bronevick

... Su-34, oh and beautiful. He is much quieter than the 24th.

it still depends on the mode

[Partyzan]

Quote: poquello

it still depends on the mode

we have - when after a repair they lift it up for inspection - they all howl like animals

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: Bronevick

Now the first Su-34 flew over Chelyaba, oh and beautiful. He is much quieter than the 24th.

He flew in a whisper.

[Dormidont]

A trifle, but nice

[Shahno]

I didn’t understand ... They warned us. Well you give, Kushner ...

[Partyzan]

Quote: Shahno

This is something they warned us. Well you give, Kushner ...

no, they stated more quickly - you will buy them call me, nothing personal, just business

[Shahno]

Yes, everything is fine. We are already two months in good shape. Negev groans. And I'm deaf ...

[Vadim851]

About 90 million per unit is now the average price. The price of this aircraft also includes the high wages of workers engaged in its production. Rafal and Typhoon are much more expensive, F / A-18 E / F - not much cheaper, also the Su-57 is not a fact that is cheaper.
So it’s quite pulled, and many. F15, 16 will retire, which will free up part of the funds

[1c-inform-city]

Do not forget, the engine is not included in the price.

[Andrey Ivanov]

The cost of the American fighter of the fifth generation F-35 is too high, and in the future, these costs may become too heavy for the military budget, said Vice Admiral Mat Winter.

And change shoes right on the fly. However, the hint is thick to the European friends and it sounds like that, guys, and let's get off.

[Alexander War]

Putin will be blamed again

[Vasyan1971]

Dengi, Dengi, come on!

[Falcond]

After today's message from Putin, you can ask for more dough ... then maybe enough)

[Rurikovich]

Hey vassals, open your wallets, take out the coppers !!!

[Operator]

Quote: Ncplc

Sru 57

Freebie - She Corrupts

Warm greetings from "Vanguard" and "Dagger", s.ki shameful!

[Yngvar]

Abram! How much does a neutron bomb cost?
Sarah! Yes, a billion 1,5-2 ...
Eh Abram, how cool it would be if she fell into our garden!

[Ncplc]

How are you rushing, did you see enough cartoons yesterday? So Hollywood can also do such a lot))

[Operator]

Danuda - photo of an air-launched ballistic missile “Dagger” (length 7,7 m, diameter 1,4 mm, launch weight 2400 kg, speed 1,8 km / s, range over 2000 km, active-passive RSGN Gran, KVO within 10 meters) aboard the MiG-31 (the complex was put on pilot combat duty in the South-Eastern Military District)



The “Dagger” is a homing medium-range ballistic missile, it is anti-ship, it is not intercepted by any air defense / missile defense system, on a supermobile carrier, and it is not subject to the RMNS contract.

"Good Morning, Israel" (C)

[KonoGon]

Quote: Operator

"Dagger" (length 7,7 m, diameter 1,4 mm, starting weight 2400 kg, speed 1,8 km / s, range over 2000 km, active-passive RGSN "Gran", KVO within 10 meters)

And who inflated?

[Sands Careers General]

A cross between a penguin and a pregnant cockroach "could become too heavy for the US military budget"?
For some reason I’m not surprised.