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Russian Navy to get 2023, 73 electric torpedoes of a new type

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The Daghestani plant "Dagdizel" and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation signed a long-term contract for the manufacture of 73 torpedoes for the Navy of the Russian Federation UET-1. Rear Admiral Andrei Vernigora and Director of Dagdiesel Raul Ilyasov put their signatures on the contract under the contract of the Defense Ministry’s Ministry of Defense State Defense Order.


Russian Navy to get 2023, 73 electric torpedoes of a new type


Now we are talking about 73 products. The cost of such a contract - 7,2 billion rubles. It is valid until 2023, inclusive. The first torpedoes are planned to be delivered for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation next year, but the contract will be approved this year, so the company will start mass production by the end of the year.
- quotes TASS statement of the Chief of the Main Armament Directorate of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant-General Anatoly Gulyayev.

The contract is long-term while it is five years old. Given the completion of the installation of equipment and production, we hope that the company will complete these works this year. When confirming the output to full capacity, the Ministry of Defense will return to the question of increasing the volume of purchases of these products.
- he specified.

UET-1 - new universal electric torpedo with improved combat and technical characteristics. It will replace the obsolete homing electric torpedo USET-80.

The Defense Ministry said that the UET-1 is a torpedo with a long range - up to 25 kilometers, speed - up to 50 nodes and a detection range of underwater targets - up to 3,5 kilometers. In addition, the torpedo can detect the wake of the surface ships with a lifetime of up to 500 seconds.
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  1. Andrey Ivanov
    Andrey Ivanov 28 February 2018 17: 44
    +1
    When the Predator is finished off ...
    1. Chichikov
      Chichikov 28 February 2018 17: 55
      +6
      Quote: Andrey Ivanov
      When the Predator is finished off ...

      When the "Aliens" come! (film "Predator" versus "Aliens").
      1. Andrey Ivanov
        Andrey Ivanov 28 February 2018 17: 59
        +3
        Quote: Chichikov
        When the "Aliens" come! (film "Predator" versus "Aliens").


        “Since 2013, the enterprise’s team has been developing, manufacturing prototypes and testing a component of an underwater rocket that implements new principles for managing the boundary layer. The creation of this aircraft is carried out as part of the state defense order for the development of Predator experimental design work.

        As part of this work, more than 20 scientific papers were published, including 4 scientific papers in 2015. Applications are filed for several patents for utility models. In 2015, the first two prototypes of the aircraft component were manufactured, as well as docking, laboratory and bench tests, and ground testing.

        At the end of 2016, it is planned to conduct preliminary tests of the component of the underwater rocket, including sea trials of the aircraft, based on the results of which design documentation will be assigned to the component of the underwater rocket of the letter "O".

        In the framework of this work, the enterprise also develops RCDs and functional software, prepares prototypes and tests the technological test equipment TKPA, designed to carry out adjustments and checks of the underwater rocket as a whole and its components separately.

        The aforementioned activities of Electropribor Design Bureau OJSC yielded results expressed in the period from 2013 to 2016 by the enterprises of Electropribor Design Bureau OJSC (Saratov) and SEPO-ZEM LLC (Saratov) regarding the above work "Samolet-M" and "Predator" of state defense orders worth more than 3 billion rubles. "
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 28 February 2018 21: 37
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Ivanov
        When the Predator is finished off ...

        Quote: Chichikov
        When the "Aliens" come!

        When the "strangers" come, it will be too late to drink Borjomi: the kidneys can fall off !!!
        And so that "strangers" do not come, you need to better feed your "friends" ...
        ("A people who do not want to feed their army will feed someone else's."
        Attributed to the French Emperor Napoleon / (1769 — 1821).
        And I also recalled the words of the father of nations: "Who gave you the right to count people's money when it comes to the defense of the state !?" This is a question about 100mln per product, but for some reason everyone misses
        Given the completion of equipment installation and production ...

        IMHO.
    2. Artek
      Artek 28 February 2018 18: 02
      +18
      Th is not perfect, 73 torpedoes for 7.2mlr. rubles, is it 100 million rubles apiece? However!
      1. mvg
        mvg 28 February 2018 18: 05
        +3
        However, in mathematics pros !!! And if you connect the calculator?
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 28 February 2018 18: 23
          +1
          Quote: Artek
          Th is not perfect, 73 torpedoes for 7.2mlr. rubles, is it 100 million rubles apiece? However!

          shchchschas, at the mother-in-law (the kingdom to her heaven) I will cut off accounts in a barn ... in firewood ...
        2. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 28 February 2018 18: 27
          +2
          Quote: mvg
          However in math

          it’s not a matter of mathematics, but of sweet promising cookies ..... right before 2035 you have to write ....
          1. mvg
            mvg 28 February 2018 18: 40
            +8
            There was a good article on VO about torpedoes. We are very far behind the USA, Germany, Italy. Characteristics are so-so. It didn’t work out better. Buy a license from the Germans. Weigh submarines are good, but they must be equipped with something else. And we have the level of World War II for the Americans.
            1. reservist
              reservist 28 February 2018 19: 38
              0
              Quote: mvg
              There was a good article on VO about torpedoes.

              this one?
              topwar.ru/67380-torpeda-wass-black-shark-italiya.
              html
              1. mvg
                mvg 28 February 2018 19: 49
                0
                No about the Physicist and Case. Well, then, we went over everything. About Shark was there too.
                1. reservist
                  reservist 28 February 2018 20: 14
                  0
                  about the Case is, but without the Shark ... :(
                  topwar.ru/122273-torpeda-ugst-fizik-2-futlyar-zag
                  adochnaya-novinka-rossiyskogo-flota.html
                  topwar.ru/97170-perspektivnaya-torpeda-futlyar-pr
                  ohodit-gosudarstvennye-ispytaniya.html
            2. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 28 February 2018 21: 50
              +7
              Quote: mvg
              It didn’t work out better. Buy a license from the Germans
              The Germans definitely will not sell ... And better, apparently, it does not work out so far. But even this for spearfishing is enough, given the distances of mutual detection of PL-PL.
              That's just an electric torpedo can shoot from any depth without changing the performance characteristics, which can not be said about the heat ... And then, 500 sec to keep track - not bad, very! 300 used to be ...
              Then, I do not believe that in our postcard our true TTX products will be laid out ... It’s rather 0,75 from the truth ... So, there is progress and this makes Malaha happy ... yes
          2. St Petrov
            St Petrov 1 March 2018 23: 57
            0
            it’s not a matter of mathematics, but of sweet promising cookies ..... right before 2035 you have to write ....


            and what do you say about the rearmament of the army? or parallel universe?
      2. ustinov.yuri
        ustinov.yuri 28 February 2018 18: 06
        +1
        Yes you are a mathematician!
      3. AntiFREEZ
        AntiFREEZ 28 February 2018 18: 13
        +6
        torpedo with a long range - up to 25 kilometers

        Quote: Artek
        700 million rubles apiece?


        I’m with both hands for the return of the "balls", it is a pity that we have "not the 37th year" (c).
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 28 February 2018 18: 24
          +6
          Quote: AntiFREEZ
          , it is a pity that we have "not the 37th year" (c).

          here damn .. hands beat off ... "for", yes
        2. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 28 February 2018 18: 50
          +9
          Judging by the table, except for the Italian "black shark" everyone else power torpedoes are approximately at our level: range of 25-28 km at 23-24 knots (according to SST4 they give a range of 28 km). And by the way, something I don’t see 50 knots in foreign cars.
          You can not look at Mark 48 - it is thermal.

          By the way, did the Navy precisely order UET-1, and not UET-1E Ichthyosaurus?
          According to some tactical and technical characteristics, the Ichthyosaurus really surpasses the Hydropribor torpedo. This is in particular about a longer range (the maximum Dagdiesel torpedo is 25 km against 18 km for TE2-02), higher speed (50 knots against 48) and better detection range of underwater targets (up to 3,5 km against 1,5 ,XNUMX).
          © bmpd
          1. mvg
            mvg 28 February 2018 19: 03
            +1
            This, if we compare modern Russian and MK48
            For example, the modern American long-range remote-controlled torpedo Mk-48 designed to destroy high-speed underwater and surface targets is capable of speeds up to 55 and 40 knots at distances of 38 and 50 kilometers, respectively (while assessing the capabilities of the Russian torpedo TE-2 45 and 32 knots at ranges of 15 and 25 km). The American torpedo is equipped with a multiple attack system that fires when a torpedo is lost. A torpedo is able to independently detect, capture and attack the target. The electronic filling of the torpedo is configured in such a way that it allows hitting enemy submarines in the area of ​​the command post located behind the torpedo compartment.
            PS: Only purely theoretically, electric torpedoes are safer. But on TTX they lose.
            TTX torpedoes TE2, "Physicist", "Case", Mark 48 (USA), DM2A4ER (Germany), Black Shark (Italy)

            Length, m: 7,9 - 7,2 - n / a - 5,8 - 8,4 - 5,9

            Weight, kg: 2400 - 1980 - n / a - 1363 - n / a - 1363

            Warhead weight, kg: 300 - 300 - n / a - 300 - 260 - 250

            Maximum range, km: 25 - 50 - 60 - 60 - 140 - 70

            Remote control cable length, km: 25 - 25 - n / a - 30 - 100 - 60

            Maximum speed, knots: 45 - 50 - 65 - 60 - 50 - 52
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 28 February 2018 19: 16
              +5
              Quote: mvg
              This, if we compare modern Russian and MK48
              For example, the modern American long-range remote-controlled torpedo Mk-48 designed to destroy high-speed underwater and surface targets is capable of speeds up to 55 and 40 knots at distances of 38 and 50 kilometers, respectively (while assessing the capabilities of the Russian torpedo TE-2 45 and 32 knots at ranges of 15 and 25 km).

              And why do you compare the western thermal and domestic electric torpedo? Nobody compares Mark 48 with a thick peroxide or with a “flurry”. smile
              1. mvg
                mvg 28 February 2018 19: 46
                +1
                The Tolstoys are no longer there, the Flurry too (13 km and without taxiing). I don’t understand, if there are no normal and inexpensive batteries, why do we need an electrician? 25 km, this must be attacked from 10 km .. and this is already very critical. Modern PLUR (RUM-139 VL-Asroc) fly 40 km further, and guarding ships will find 10 km submarines. Very dangerous.
                If there are normal hydrogen peroxide propulsors, why invent a bicycle? Yes, and dear.
                PS: The most important thing is lost - secrecy.
                1. Boa kaa
                  Boa kaa 28 February 2018 22: 10
                  +2
                  Quote: mvg
                  normal hydrogen peroxide propulsors,

                  A couple of remarks.
                  Hydrogen peroxide - internal combustion machines - ENGINES (!), Not movers - this is what "rests on the water" On the MK-48 - a water cannon with impellers, on others - coaxial screws ...
                  Quote: mvg
                  there are no normal and inexpensive batteries, why do we need an electrician?
                  The battery, of course, is an expensive thing, especially from a precious metal ... But from a great depth only the Electrician shoots ... This is the main armament of boats against boats, not counting PLURO.
                  Quote: mvg
                  25 km, this must be attacked from 10 km ... and on the 10 km of the submarine, security ships will find out.
                  And these are questions of tactics. Get out of the search bar, drop THAT in the wake (you just need to determine the direction of the target's movement) and quietly dump it on the forage ...
                  BUT there is a danger of running into turntables, RSLA and other crap ... So, you are right:
                  Very dangerous.
                  It is better to sit at home and watch on TV about the heroic everyday life of the submarine. yes
          2. Grigory_45
            Grigory_45 28 February 2018 23: 20
            0
            Quote: Alexey RA
            By the way, did the Navy precisely order UET-1, and not UET-1E Ichthyosaurus?

            Apparently, it is UET-1E (OCD "Ichthyosaurus") that needs to be read, the product from Gidropribor is designated UETT, or TE-2 (TE-2-03 with firing data input system)
      4. reservist
        reservist 28 February 2018 19: 44
        +3
        Quote: Artek
        ... is it 100 million rubles apiece? However!

        for the F21 torpedo, the price tag seems to be starting from 2.3 million euros ...
        if 100 million rubles are converted to euros, it turns out that DagDiesel is just dumping ...
        1. ZVO
          ZVO 28 February 2018 20: 54
          0
          Quote: reservist
          Quote: Artek
          ... is it 100 million rubles apiece? However!

          for the F21 torpedo, the price tag seems to be starting from 2.3 million euros ...
          if 100 million rubles are converted to euros, it turns out that DagDiesel is just dumping ...


          And salaries. Is the cost of energy western? In hebrews?

          Maybe that's why. that Dagestan is the most corrupt place on this planet?
          1. Grigory_45
            Grigory_45 28 February 2018 23: 13
            +1
            Quote: ZVO
            Maybe that's why. that Dagestan is the most corrupt place on this planet?

            well, not the best ..) Hindus have every chance not to give first place)
          2. reservist
            reservist 1 March 2018 12: 59
            0
            Quote: ZVO
            Is the cost of energy western? In hebrews?

            now googled ...
            omni-us.ru/info.aspx?type=publ&id=208
            if they don’t lie, then it turns out that at prices per kWh the Moscow region can already be compared with France ...

            Maybe that's why. that Dagestan is the most corrupt place on this planet?

            We transfer the plant to Astrakhan?
            1. ZVO
              ZVO 1 March 2018 14: 49
              0
              Quote: reservist

              We transfer the plant to Astrakhan?


              Yes, there are no special options. Astrakhan is too far from clear water ...
              Gelendzhik, Anapa?
              HZ.
              1. reservist
                reservist 1 March 2018 16: 02
                0
                to Peter, to the former Obukhovsky ...;)
                to be honest, I don’t know, never once a specialist in the production of torpedo weapons ...
      5. Alexander Russian
        Alexander Russian 28 February 2018 19: 50
        +1
        I thought about that too. Golden torpedoes.
      6. svd-xnumx
        svd-xnumx 28 February 2018 22: 09
        0
        is it 100 million rubles apiece? However
        It is still not a shame that our MO did not want to buy T-90 for such money, it was expensive.
      7. Romario_Argo
        Romario_Argo 1 March 2018 09: 26
        0
        we do not know all the clauses of this contract, especially its secret part on the Predator missile and torpedoes and the Case torpedoes, and hidden public investment points on the modernization of the plant’s equipment
    3. Romario_Argo
      Romario_Argo 28 February 2018 18: 04
      +1
      When the Predator is finished off ...

      The predator is a missile torpedo, such as the VA-111 Flurry but of the 2 generation, with the presence of a seeker and the ability to maneuver.
      1. Grigory_45
        Grigory_45 28 February 2018 23: 11
        +1
        Quote: Romario_Argo
        Predator is a missile torpedo, type VA-111 Flurry but already the 2nd generation with the presence of GOS and the ability to maneuverI am.

        where are the firewood about homing? Technical details of the project have not yet appeared in official publications. This situation contributes to the emergence of various speculation and speculation. For example, I’ve only met in reputable sources that they work on the range and increase the depth of the use of torpedoes. About homing (or telecontrol) speech was not even discussed.
    4. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 28 February 2018 23: 34
      +1
      Quote: Andrey Ivanov
      When the Predator is finished

      even if its range with respect to the Flurry is miraculously doubled in some miraculous way (which I doubt), this is still extremely small. I don’t understand such a reverent attitude towards uncontrolled torpedoes, which also boom like an empty tin can on asphalt
  2. faterdom
    faterdom 28 February 2018 18: 18
    +1
    Quote: Artek
    Th is not perfect, 73 torpedoes for 7.2mlr. rubles, is it 100 million rubles apiece? However!

    There is one silver tens of kilograms. So far, nothing more energy-intensive than silver batteries has been invented.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 28 February 2018 18: 31
      +7
      Quote: faterdom
      There is one silver tens of kilograms

      dad caught such a "nesuna" with kg of silver at the entrance, (dad cop the former, correct) children, snot-tears and prayers .... let go in short ... the ingot threw to the warehouse, said: "I don’t know ..." it’s already two years since he buried his father, but this story doesn’t get out of my head .... man, my dad ...
    2. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 28 February 2018 18: 42
      +2
      Actually, this is a five-year long-term contract for 7 yards.
      And the first batch of the contract - a total of 73 products.
      Mixed in a bunch, horses, people ....
      1. reservist
        reservist 28 February 2018 18: 56
        0
        here is the first batch and they will do 5 years ...
        and the price seems to have taken into account inflation and an increase in taxes for the next five years ...
        1. Vlad.by
          Vlad.by 28 February 2018 18: 57
          0
          Well, to you from the reserve, it’s much more visible ...
          1. reservist
            reservist 28 February 2018 19: 09
            0
            Well, TASS is probably too early to write in the "yellow" press ...
            tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4995113
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 28 February 2018 22: 26
      +2
      Quote: faterdom
      So far, nothing more energy-intensive than silver batteries has been invented.

      There are: lithium-ion, and soon they will be replaced by magnesium with a modified material on vanadium pentoxide. They are 5 times better than LIAB because of their low cost, greater capacity, durability and safety. One sadness: Hindu Americans give birth to them at the University of Texas ...
      By the way, LIAB turned out to be explosive in marine conditions ... yes
  3. Simon
    Simon 28 February 2018 18: 20
    +2
    The Defense Ministry said that the UET-1 is a torpedo with a long range - up to 25 kilometers, speed - up to 50 nodes and a detection range of underwater targets - up to 3,5 kilometers. In addition, the torpedo can detect the wake of the surface ships with a lifetime of up to 500 seconds. --- In, fine! Launch this torpedo, and she herself will chase the enemy ships in the ocean! wink good
  4. Simon
    Simon 28 February 2018 18: 23
    +5
    Quote: AntiFREEZ
    torpedo with a long range - up to 25 kilometers

    Quote: Artek
    700 million rubles apiece?


    I’m with both hands for the return of the "balls", it is a pity that we have "not the 37th year" (c).

    Yes, as you do not remember STALIN!
  5. Zefr
    Zefr 28 February 2018 18: 24
    +2
    1 piece = 100 million rubles?
    Ahem ... Am I right?
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 28 February 2018 18: 31
      +3
      Quote: Zefr
      Ahem ... Am I right?

      That's right! yes good You can also calculate how many torpedoes one at a month will be released according to this contract until the end of 2023 ... belay wassat
      1. reservist
        reservist 28 February 2018 19: 01
        0
        in 5 years, 73 pieces will not have time to do one a month, taking into account the installation / commissioning of new equipment, etc. about one thing comes out in three weeks ...
    2. reservist
      reservist 28 February 2018 19: 18
      0
      here in the next note the price of 4 frigates is announced - 3 billion "evergreens" ...
      the price of 4 torpedoes in the "dead American presidents" will be approximately 6.6 million "evergreens"
      the frigate to torpedo price ratio is about 45 to 1
  6. Baby sitter
    Baby sitter 28 February 2018 18: 28
    +1
    somehow we don’t carefully read it ..... we saw the number and price tag and “fse disappeared”, .. but essentially something else is included in this price tag too ?!
    1. just exp
      just exp 28 February 2018 18: 48
      0
      what exactly ?
    2. ty60
      ty60 28 February 2018 18: 56
      +3
      R&D is mandatory, the production of tooling and equipment for debugging the GOS and everything else, including the declared management of the boundary layer. All this is included in the price of the product. Tests, fine-tuning. Additional equipment based on the results, cheapening only in the process of mass production
      1. Grigory_45
        Grigory_45 28 February 2018 20: 11
        +3
        Neither R&D, R&D, nor testing are included in the cost of the final product (they never are included in the cost of samples of military products). MO closes these stages separately. In fact, buying the design documentation for torpedoes, it paid for these stages. If I add the cost of OCD to the cost of these “gold” torpedoes, I’m afraid the heart attack may be enough from the amount seen
      2. ZVO
        ZVO 28 February 2018 21: 27
        0
        Quote: ty60
        R&D is mandatory, the production of tooling and equipment for debugging the GOS and everything else, including the declared management of the boundary layer. All this is included in the price of the product. Tests, fine-tuning. Additional equipment based on the results, cheapening only in the process of mass production


        Excuse me. but it is only in rotting capstan.
        In our country - State order for 44 or 223 Federal Laws.
        only upon the fact of each line.
    3. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 28 February 2018 20: 20
      0
      Quote: Baby sitter
      but essentially something else is included in this price tag too ?!

      Tell us what else is included in it. It will be very interesting to listen)
  7. MY THOUGHT
    MY THOUGHT 28 February 2018 18: 43
    0
    Not expensive for torpedoes?
    1. purple
      purple 28 February 2018 18: 56
      0
      Now we are talking about 73 products. The cost of such a contract is 7,2 billion rubles. It is valid until 2023 inclusive.

      where is it about 100 million apiece? maybe this is the first stage of only 73 pieces
      1. MY THOUGHT
        MY THOUGHT 28 February 2018 18: 59
        +2
        [quote = purple] [quote] Now we are talking about 73 products. The cost of such a contract is 7,2 billion rubles. [/ quote]
        Here and goes
      2. MY THOUGHT
        MY THOUGHT 28 February 2018 19: 06
        +1
        68320000 4 rubles the price of the Tamogavk rocket unit XNUMX and then the torpedo
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 1 March 2018 00: 39
          0
          Typhoon U - 60 million rubles, Armata platform - 250 million, minimum, Su 34 - billion rubles, helicopter Ka 52 - 900 million rubles, Whirlwind rocket 1 - 6 million rubles, Su 35 - 2 billion rubles, Su 57 - 3800 million rubles, 3M14 missile - 56 million rubles, equipment of Warrior 2 - a complete set of 2 million rubles, RPG 30 100000 rubles, ATGM Cornet - 812000 per shot, MANPADS Verba - 2800000 rubles set - rocket - launch, guided mine Smelchak M 1200000 rubles, Tu 160 - 17 billion rubles. A torpedo with a cost of under 100 million is not surprising.
    2. user1212
      user1212 28 February 2018 20: 07
      0
      Quote: MY THOUGHT
      Not expensive for torpedoes?

      What bothers you? 48 ADCAP in 88 cost $ 3.5 million for mattresses x 56 rubles (exchange rate) = 196 million rubles. This, I note, in mass production, and not for 73 pieces
      1. ZVO
        ZVO 28 February 2018 21: 50
        0
        Quote: user1212
        Quote: MY THOUGHT
        Not expensive for torpedoes?

        What bothers you? 48 ADCAP in 88 cost $ 3.5 million for mattresses x 56 rubles (exchange rate) = 196 million rubles. This, I note, in mass production, and not for 73 pieces


        Can you bring your sources?

        Because. which in fact looks like this.
        Model MK.6
        It has a price of $ 2 million apiece.
        3 million - was paid for about 300 torpedoes. in which the manufacturer promised to support at the peak (i.e. upgrade at his own expense) torpedoes for many, many years ... the next 20 or 30 ...

        And 3.5 million - there is a set of modernization (up to level 7) of 8-year torpedoes for foreign states ....
        1. user1212
          user1212 1 March 2018 04: 08
          0
          https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/weaps/mk-48.
          htm
  8. gig334
    gig334 28 February 2018 18: 57
    +1
    Torpedoes of gold or what? or did the author of the article mix something up?
    1. reservist
      reservist 28 February 2018 19: 50
      +1
      a silver oxide-like battery should be ...
  9. Proton
    Proton 28 February 2018 19: 06
    0
    I don’t understand something, 7 billion, this is for 73 torpedoes or together with the equipment that they mount laughing what It’s not serious to collect ~ 14,5 torpedoes per year for this money
  10. Every
    Every 28 February 2018 19: 16
    +1
    Quote: faterdom
    Quote: Artek
    Th is not perfect, 73 torpedoes for 7.2mlr. rubles, is it 100 million rubles apiece? However!

    There is one silver tens of kilograms. So far, nothing more energy-intensive than silver batteries has been invented.

    There is such an expression, "Do you have that gold?"
    Now you can safely answer: - "Well - almost. Silver."
    Apparently there is room to grow.
    Ohr @ no torpedo. 100 million rubles for a unit.
    Here, perforce, you agree with:

    Quote: AntiFREEZ

    I’m with both hands for the return of the "balls", it is a pity that we have "not the 37th year" (c).

    Under Stalin, for such a development, hands would be torn off and inserted back into the shoulders.
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  12. tank66
    tank66 28 February 2018 19: 39
    +3
    Last year, I was looking at the torpedo of the Japanese war in St. Petersburg's Naval Museum, be it perfect, to recreate it - now you need a field of greenery. By the way, also electric, two screws on the same shaft, rotating in the opposite direction.
    when I read on the plate that under Tsushima ours produced 20 such pieces, and about 250 Japs / I can lie a little / sympathized with Rozhestvensky’s squadron.
    1. reservist
      reservist 28 February 2018 20: 06
      0
      Quote: tank66
      and the Japs about 250 / I can lie a little /

      at wargaming, they say 350 ...
      1. user1212
        user1212 28 February 2018 20: 12
        +2
        Quote: reservist
        at wargaming, they say 350 ...

        They can. The warships ammunition endless laughing
        1. reservist
          reservist 28 February 2018 20: 29
          0
          Well, if only in a night attack on the Port Arthur’s squadron, the Japanese fired about 70 torpedoes, then a figure of a couple of hundred for the entire Tsushima battle does not seem so implausible ...
          if the destroyer of those times could have up to 4 three-tube torpedo tubes, and the destroyers of the japanese had about five dozen ...
    2. Saling
      Saling 1 March 2018 15: 58
      0
      The photo shows a Soviet, not a Japanese torpedo. Especially not during the Russo-Japanese War. And not even the 1945 war laughing
  13. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 28 February 2018 20: 11
    +2
    C'mon! They hope! For FIVE years (!) Of solid 73 (seventy-three) torpedoes! For 7,2 lard!
    Fourteen and a half pieces a year! Fear AUGs and other banned ones!
    PySy. Somehow, at the end of the last century, I seriously poisoned the New Year with “champagne” produced by “Dagvino”. Excuse me, but I am suspicious of Dagdiesel.
    1. reservist
      reservist 28 February 2018 20: 40
      0
      A champagne is definitely not a "leftist" was?
      Dagestan port and cognac (well, I won’t say that I really liked it, but normal) came across, but there is something champagne ...
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 28 February 2018 20: 45
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        I say: "the end of the last century." Everything is possible! There were times like this ...
        Yes, and now it’s somehow dumb. http://www.fontanka.ru/2016/11/24/130/
  14. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 28 February 2018 21: 47
    +1
    I didn’t understand ... 1 torpedo 100 million rubles ??? The tank is cheaper ....
    1. user1212
      user1212 1 March 2018 04: 21
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      Quote: Geisenberg
      I didn’t understand ... 1 torpedo 100 million rubles ??? The tank is cheaper ....

      Which tank is cheaper than $ 2 million?
  15. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 1 March 2018 12: 03
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    "A noble beast! ... Not much will be!" © M / f "Last year's snow fell"
    73 pcs. for 5 years - isn’t it enough?
  16. 2534M
    2534M 2 March 2018 07: 38
    +1
    and what does Aliyev do in the photo? He had nothing to do with Ichthyosaurus (except that he tried to spoil and strangle this development, and when it didn’t work, to appropriate it)
  17. 2534M
    2534M 2 March 2018 07: 41
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    Quote: Andrey Ivanov
    state defense orders worth more than 3 billion rubles. "

    given that this is only a PART - the cost of popping on this Crap and Nonsense is impressive
    with normal torpedoes seams, and on the shit type "Predators" Tugriks are
  18. 2534M
    2534M 2 March 2018 07: 43
    +1
    Quote: reservist
    topwar.ru/122273-torpeda-ugst-fizik-2-futlyar-zag
    adochnaya-novinka-rossiyskogo-flota.html
    topwar.ru/97170-perspektivnaya-torpeda-futlyar-pr
    ohodit-gosudarstvennye-ispytaniya.html

    this is nonsense and nonsense
  19. 2534M
    2534M 2 March 2018 07: 47
    +1
    Quote: Romario_Argo
    and the ability to maneuver.

    how do you imagine it on a 53cm durnda longer than 8m? YOU have a "noble" "lying under a bed"?