The first Russian gas turbine engines will receive the frigates of the project 22350

February 27 2018 46

The frigates of the 22350 project in 2018 were the first to receive the Russian gas turbine engines created at the ODK-Saturn enterprise within the framework of the import substitution program for Ukrainian equipment, said in an interview with RIA News managing director of the plant, Viktor Polyakov.

To date, we have orders for frigates of the 22350 project, which are being built at Severnaya Verf. We will deliver the first two units this year, the dates are determined by the customer - the fourth quarter of 2018.

- he said.

The first Russian gas turbine engines will receive the frigates of the project 22350

We remind you that on the "ODK-Saturn" developed three power plants "M90FR" (power 27500 horsepower), "Aggregat-DKVP" (power 10000 horsepower) and "M70FRU-R". In the future, these installations will provide Russia with independence from the import of engines produced by the Ukrainian enterprise Zoryamashproekt, which broke off cooperation with the Russian Federation after the deterioration of relations between Moscow and Kiev.

The 22350 frigates of the project are designed to conduct combat operations in the far ocean zone against surface ships and submarines of the enemy, to repel attacks of air attack weapons, both independently and as part of a ship connection. Due to the original architecture of the superstructure (stealth), ships have a reduced reflective surface, which lowers their radar visibility. It is expected that the lead ship of the project "Admiral Gorshkov" will be a part of the Russian Navy in 2018.

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+9

27 February 2018 13: 13

Everything that is not being done for the better was taken from Ukrainians before, then part from the Chinese, but now their engines!
1. Chertt
  
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  27 February 2018 13: 22
  
  Okay, the engines went to 22350. And what about 11356 which are also without turbines? "UEC-Saturn" does not pull (yet)
  1. Muvka
    
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    27 February 2018 13: 27
    
    They write that all the same to India.
    1. Chertt
      
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      27 February 2018 13: 29
      
      Quote: Muvka
      They write that all the same to India.
      
      .................... Profanity is prohibited. But you understood the idea
      1. Muvka
        
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        27 February 2018 13: 39
        
        Well, FIG knows. For 750 lyam without engines ... Well, with this money we rivet even more more modern frigates.
        
        Chertt
        
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        27 February 2018 13: 43
        
        Quote: Muvka
        750 lyam without engines ..
        
        Do Hindus have 750? I do not believe (s). I’ll go look for information
    2. next322
      
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      27 February 2018 15: 06
      
      New Delhi and Moscow completed negotiations on a contract to purchase four new Russian frigates 11356; The amount of the agreement is $ 3 billion, media reported.
      
      According to the agreement, the first two frigates will be built at the Yantar shipyard in Kaliningrad, and two more will be built at Goa Shipyard Ltd in India, which will receive technology from Russia. Deliveries are expected to begin within four years of signing the contract, Business Stand reports.
  2. Piramidon
    
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    27 February 2018 13: 50
    
    Quote: Chertt
    And what about 11356 which are also without turbines?
    
    And these engines (M90FR) can not be installed on them?
    1. donavi49
      
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      27 February 2018 14: 05
      
      In the base of his gas and gas turbine installation.
      2 marching turbines and 2 afterburners.
      
      At the same time, those turbines that produce (M-90FR) - differ both in size and operational performance.
      
      3 options:
      - sell India for full-time energy (Zorya sells them these turbines - for example, the destroyers Kalkuta and 15В - have identical afterburner turbines with 11356).
      - Convert to a diesel-gas turbine unit identical to 22350. But this is a large amount of alterations for living buildings, as well as the need for extensive OCD. Frigates will come out expensive by the 23-25 year. For OCD, D49 in Kolomna will do a year, get turbines from Saturn no earlier than 20 of the year, finish building a year and a half, conduct extensive tests comparable to the new project.
      - Convert to a gas-gas turbine unit with units M-90ФР. The problem besides the need for OCD (and not only among shipbuilders, but also among turbinists), as well as alterations, is that the resource even converted to the marching M-90FR mode will be low. For the afterburner, this is normal, for the marching one.
  3. Romario_Argo
    
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    27 February 2018 14: 12
    
    2 turbines per year - this is somehow very small. at least 4 to 2 marching and 2 afterburners
    or mean 2 kit i.e. Xnumx??
  4. Tiksi-3
    
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    27 February 2018 14: 44
    
    Quote: Chertt
    And what about 11356 which are also without turbines?
    
    so they (GTU) were not even tried to produce, since there was no such task
2. Spartanez300
  
  +1
  
  27 February 2018 13: 26
  
  The good news is that its engine and dill in a bummer , yes according to them they live well . "UEC-Saturn" - well done!
  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    
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    27 February 2018 13: 31
    
    the reflecting surface of the ships, so far little worries ... how are the engines behaving there?
  2. just exp
    
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    27 February 2018 13: 38
    
    dill is not in a bummer, then they just crawl to us on caramel and we again will tear off from our old people and children in order to feed Judas.
  3. donavi49
    
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    27 February 2018 13: 58
    
    Zorya fully supplies the Indian Navy (in particular, the new destroyers of Calcutta and the new class 15B - 4 ship). Also supplies kits for QC-280 to China - with their gigantic orders (they are only 052D - they contracted 24 pieces). Therefore, they have everything ok.
Andrey K

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27 February 2018 13: 14

... will receive Russian gas turbine engines created at the company "ODK-Saturn" ...

In principle, it’s not bad to start producing turbines in 4 years.
Our "all-weepers" cried that the "UEC-Saturn" will not give out the necessary power plant.
While experts were breaking spears, people were doing things
1. Hagalaz
  
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  27 February 2018 13: 24
  
  Now we hope that the company will provide the necessary need and in the right time.
2. Tiksi-3
  
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  27 February 2018 14: 48
  
  Quote: Andrey K
  Our "all-weepers" cried that the "UEC-Saturn" will not give out the necessary power plant.
  
  it still hasn’t been issued so far, but what will happen is exclusively for 22350 (with a ridiculous resource), and you could already forget about 11356 3 years ago .... they didn’t even plan to produce them ... and you’re all a hackneyed record about - Our all-weepers cried... and you I look delighted?
  1. Andrey K
    
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    27 February 2018 15: 24
    
    Quote: Tiksi-3
    ... and you I look delighted? ...
    
    At least I'm not upset.
    1. Tiksi-3
      
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      27 February 2018 15: 28
      
      Quote: Andrey K
      At least I'm not upset.
      
      are you at least not upset about that? ... because there is no gas turbine for the Navy and will not be soon ?? ... that the industry is in humus ?? it is strange, and that the most important thing is that the pseudo-bells and whistles don’t beat !!!
      1. Andrey K
        
        +9
        
        27 February 2018 15: 46
        
        Quote: Tiksi-3
        ... what is the industry in humus ?? it is strange, and most importantly, the pseudo-bells and whistles do not beat the alarm !!! ...
        
        And now in order - about humus, alarm and "pseudo-bosom" ...
        Should I focus on which of your words? And is it worth it to do?
        Are you a specialist in this industry that allows statements about humus?
        Nabat for what reason - that all the same, the power plants are released, despite the "humus"?
        The "pseudo-houses" are the bastards leading so that despite the "humus" in the industry they manage to work and make supplies for the needs of the Moscow Region?
        You have a strange concept about the structure and organization of work in the defense industry
        
        Tiksi-3
        
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        27 February 2018 16: 00
        
        Quote: Andrey K
        Nabat for what reason - that all the same, the power plants are released, despite the "humus"?
        
        not one since 2014 have not been made for installation on a ship
        Quote: Andrey K
        The "pseudo-houses" are the bastards leading so that despite the "humus" in the industry they manage to work and make supplies for the needs of the Moscow Region?
        
        What exactly did ours put on their ships, for example? - the answer is Nothing!
        Quote: Andrey K
        Should I focus on which of your words? And is it worth it to do?
        
        why then post?
        
        Andrey K
        
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        27 February 2018 16: 14
        
        Quote: Tiksi-3
        ..not one since 2014 was not made for installation on a ship ...
        
        Before commenting, do you have a habit of reading an article?
        With your permission, the beginning of the article (hereinafter referred to as yourself):
        ... Frigates of project 22350 in 2018 will be the first to receive Russian gas turbine engines created at the ODK-Saturn enterprise as part of the import substitution program for Ukrainian technology ...
        
        Everything else described by you below does not require comments and there is nothing to argue about at all.
        Read the article
        
        Tiksi-3
        
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        27 February 2018 16: 30
        
        Quote: Andrey K
        Before commenting, do you have a habit of reading an article?
        
        Of course, they only promise, it doesn’t mean to marry! ... how many and when were they promised to us for the Navy? ... except for the Warsaw and boats + RTOs (which still have Chinese engines) - nothing! ... even those who are being repaired with the modernization - nothing ... I will not say anything about the construction of the nuclear submarine - the number was reduced there !!! ... and what were the sweet cookies from the mouth .....
        
        Quote: Andrey K
        Read the article
        
        and you think who promises this to you!
        
        Andrey K
        
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        27 February 2018 16: 41
        
        Quote: Tiksi-3
        ... and you think who promises this to you! ...
        
        We will not "butt" with you on an empty basis. You have not proved anything to me, I will tell you
        We assume that - I am an optimistic pessimist, and you are a pessimistic optimist
        God willing, everything will be fine
        Slowly, slowly - but it will be good, even better than now
3. Ryazan87
  
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  27 February 2018 15: 31
  
  It will be nice when the promised will be delivered exactly in the 4st quarter of 2018. Passes all tests and will work normally. And then the series will go.
  There were many promises, we are waiting for business.
  1. musorg
    
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    8 November 2018 12: 38
    
    In Rybinsk, 4 units of M-90FR are being built, I hope that they will hand over something before the end of the year!
KVU-NSVD

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27 February 2018 13: 16

We will deliver the first two units this year, the terms are determined by the customer - the fourth quarter of 2018
God forbid ... to surrender without jambs and alterations.
cerbuk6155

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27 February 2018 13: 25

Finally we waited. Very happy for RUSSIA. Its engines are just fine.
1. just exp
  
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  27 February 2018 13: 41
  
  what are you waiting for? promises that there will be turbines?
  if you want, I promise you that every resident, even a homeless person, will be a dollar millionaire, that old age and illness will disappear. that there will be no betrayal and theft, prostitution and drug addiction will go into oblivion.
  I generally plan to promise a master.
  1. Piramidon
    
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    27 February 2018 13: 54
    
    Quote: just explo
    what are you waiting for? promises that there will be turbines?
    
    It was expected that the engines were already making in metal, and not "started designing and developed a technical task" and the delivery dates were determined
  2. Alexey RA
    
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    27 February 2018 14: 18
    
    Quote: just explo
    what are you waiting for? promises that there will be turbines?
    
    You just do not know. As of April 2017:
    OKR "M90FR" - development work on the development of the gas-turbine engine M90FR with a capacity of 27 hp as part of the import substitution of mass production. to ensure the complete set of diesel-gas turbine unit M500R. It is carried out under the state contract between the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia and PJSC NPO Saturn of 55. Completion date is December 2014.
    At the moment, design documentation has been developed and refined, work has been completed on the technological preparation of production, experimental gas turbine engines manufactured. For the remaining period of R&D, it is planned to carry out special factory and qualification tests of the M90FR gas turbine engine.
    © bmpd
    That is, experienced engines have been around for almost a year now.
  3. musorg
    
    0
    
    8 November 2018 12: 40
    
    It is noticeable that the master!
san4es

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27 February 2018 13: 38
Gas turbine engine M90FR
1. Andrey Yuryevich
  
  +3
  
  27 February 2018 13: 51
  
  let's wait for the results of the pilot ... at least ...
  1. san4es
    
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    27 February 2018 14: 01
    
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    let's wait ...
    
    ... let's ... get used to it
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      
      +2
      
      27 February 2018 14: 02
      
      Quote: san4es
      ...Let's
      
      move around ... is there a place?
      1. san4es
        
        +6
        
        27 February 2018 14: 05
        
        ... there are ... two left
        
        Andrey Yuryevich
        
        +3
        
        27 February 2018 14: 07
        
        Quote: san4es
        .There ... two left
        
        to a loan, to a friend ...
        
        san4es
        
        +1
        
        27 February 2018 14: 09
        
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        ... a loan, to a friend ...
        
        ... frets
senima56

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27 February 2018 18: 19

It would be nice if these engines were reliable, and then the mechanics would not have to "look longingly toward the UEC" Saturn "!
1. petrol cutter
  
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  27 February 2018 20: 49
  
  I think the following about this. I’m not an engine driver, I’m a corpsman, but I think the situation is approximately similar. For production, the main thing is normal financing and security. Those. everything necessary for the performance of work of a given quality and a given level should be provided (of a given quality, level and quantity). Then there will be the desired result. Unfortunately, as a rule, the junk is bought the cheapest and prohibitive requirements are set. I mean, you’re on my knee as much as you want, but give me a mega unit! So that he could even attack Ukraine, even Mars. And at the same time, to win.
Andrew

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27 February 2018 22: 54

And what is there with the long-suffering 11356?
Alexey-74

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28 February 2018 13: 41

Well, finally waited. Of course, the full cycle and the readiness of the frigates themselves will drag out a little, but that's okay. But now mine !!!
Zomanus

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28 February 2018 13: 58

Well, now the experience / equipment will work out and go in series to make engines.
So for now, yes, a little, but the quantity will increase further.
Mikhail Zubkov

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25 November 2018 12: 21

But you can’t put our aircraft engines on them? The reserve for the Tu-16, taken out of service, probably lies somewhere on the conservation of 30 years already. Would be suitable for an experiment on aircraft engines, while there are no ships.