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Reflections on the tragic fate of Marina Menshikova

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Thought we three. Citizens of Russia, LC and Ukraine. And in a circle they expressed their not very happy thoughts. Not particularly embarrassed in expressions, since almost 4 of the year is already familiar. We trust.

So, Marina Menshikova, a resident of Dnepr / Dnepropetrovsk, 26 February 2018, committed suicide in the cell of the Dneprovskiy SIZO.

Menshikova positioned herself as an activist of the “Russian world”, engaged in collecting assistance for the residents of Donbass.



But the most famous was the incident with the participation of Menshikova in the Opera House of the Dnieper. October 22 2016 of the year Menshikov struck a blow to the head with a wooden hammer to the soldier of the Dnipro-1 regiment Konstantin Kravchenko.

Kravchenko got off lightly, there was also a kitchen knife in her purse ...

A criminal case was initiated under the article "Intentional minor bodily injury". The article does not provide for arrest, so there were no restrictions on the movement of Menshikova.

But the Ukrainian authorities have repeatedly made claims of Menshikova in terms of creating obstacles to the work of the investigation and evading testimony.

Menshikov was detained several times, but released.

In 2017, for three months, Menshikov was in the Crimea, in the village of Lenino, with her father who had undergone the operation. On 4 (four) days the delay in the territory of the Russian Federation was delayed, and by decision of the Leninsky Court of the Republic of Kazakhstan, Menshikova was expelled to Ukraine and received a ban on 5 years crossing the border of the Russian Federation.

In January, 2018, the article of the prosecution was changed to a more serious one - “Hooliganism”. Menshikova ended up in the SIZO, where 26.02.2018 remained until her death.

Anna Starchevskaya, press secretary of the Dnipropetrovsk regional police department of Dnipro, said that there were three people in the cell with Menshikova. According to preliminary information, there were no conflicts with her cellmates. Menshikov's suicide occurred in the morning when the inmates slept.

The case against Menshikova will now be closed due to the death of the suspect.

Summary. One supporter of the "Russian world" has become less.

And here I would like to say a few words on a very delicate subject.

To begin with - a quote from the mayor of Dnepr Boris Filatov in his PB:

“At first you go to rallies for the“ Russian world ”. Then you run from the Dnieper to Kramatorsk. Then you go back and run from the police. Then you run to the Crimea, and your "Russian brothers" are deporting you back to Ukraine (!!!) ... "Russia will leave you, son. Always" (c) ".

Well, what can I say ... It is not the first time that we are already talking about this topic. And nothing has changed. The documents for which its citizens are being deported to Ukraine today were signed at the beginning of 2000's. To Maidan, to the fascist junta.

It was possible (and necessary) to revise them.

But no, our lawmakers have different tasks. Fuel excise is more important.

I did not want to be a prophet, but since I communicate today to a greater degree with the residents of Ukraine, I can draw conclusions. And they will quite normally confirm them after some time.

We lose both the territory and the souls of the citizens of Ukraine. Irrevocably. And in the place where the Russians used to be, tomorrow svidomity will grow, aimed against Russia. They will be cultivated purposefully and with the tacit consent of the majority.

Actually, this is already happening.

Russia's constant extradition of "its" Ukrainians is generally melancholy and sadness. The fact that Ukraine is heading for its final, namely, the fascist state, is clear and understandable. But when everything will fall into place, Russia will no longer have ANY leverage.

Living on the territory of Ukraine will simply be afraid to once again twitch in the direction of Russia.

Why?

But because Filatov, unfortunately, is right. And today, former anti-fascist fighters, if not subjected to persecution and persecution under the laws, it is only for now. And even then not everywhere. Russia and Kazakhstan. In the rest of the former republics, at least a couple of cases “for edification”. But there was.

For mercenary.

But even 10, well, even to the maximum, 15 years, and we will have to deal with the giant people nedogosudarstva. Considering guilty us of all sins.

Oh no, there will be no direct war, of course. For this you need to have an army, that Ukraine is not yet shining. But the terror performed by the members of "Azov", "Donbass", "Dnipro" and other dirty tricks is easy.

But sooner or later it will be. While the war against ukrofashizm goes on the territory of the DNI and the LC. At most with the hands and lives of the inhabitants of the republics.

Attention, the question is essentially: can we afford to fight on our own territory? And the second question: can we so stupidly throw allies?

But tomorrow, all those who were on the front line yesterday just won't go there. Passed already. Precisely because the day after tomorrow (it doesn’t matter, by the way, where Ukraine, Moldova, Transnistria, Belarus, Armenia are blazing up) you will no longer be a fighter for the idea of ​​the “Russian world”, but a mercenary. Which should be judged and planted.

Good prospect, isn't it?

The choice is simply amazing. Either we sit and breathe evenly, or we do what conscience dictates. The result - prison bunks or dance in the morning with a sheet.

It is easy to predict that normal people will choose. And no matter how flared up, for example, in the Donbas in the spring of this year, you should not wait for volunteers.

The tragedy of Marina Menshikova is the tragedy of all supporters of the “Russian world” outside of Russia.

And at the same time it is our problem. Because at such a pace the concept of “Russian world” will consist of Russia alone.
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  1. Vard
    Vard 27 February 2018 05: 47
    +36
    Unfortunately, the phenomenon has a place to be ... I know people who fought ... And now they hide it ... Let’s recall at least the attempts of the Chechen law enforcement agencies to reach those .. Who was sent to fight in Chechnya ...
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 27 February 2018 06: 10
      +3
      One should not go to the Ukrainian opera with a wooden hammer, but with a metal one! winked But this may not help. Stolypin was simply shot.
      1. Antares
        Antares 27 February 2018 12: 03
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        Stolypin was simply shot.

        By the way in Kiev. You can’t go to the Tale of Tsar Saltan ... if there are a lot of assassination attempts in the country, and there was information about the future in this place.
        Although ... if the girl was acquitted for the murder of an official ... that the rest was afraid.
      2. Olgovich
        Olgovich 27 February 2018 12: 05
        +32
        Quote: Vard
        Unfortunately, the phenomenon takes place to be ...

        Elena Novikova. a citizen of the PMR and RUSSIA, went to St. Petersburg to earn money five months ago. Documents were stolen from her, appealed to the Federal Migration Service, where she was kicked to Moscow in Moldova. the embassy where she was sent, because PMR "-not exists", from there-again to the FMS, from there-again to the embassy ....
        All! A citizen of Russia, Russia does not need it. He walks from Tsaritsyno to Moscow on foot back and forth, on instances, trying to prove that she IS !.
        A simple Muscovite took pity on the woman, invited her, gave an overnight stay, phoned the FMS, PMR, and Mold. embassy.
        Istria has received publicity in the press, all the Natsik are gloating: "You Russians do not need Raska! Here is your Russian world."
        That's it ....
        Thanks to the author for the topic.
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 27 February 2018 17: 01
          +9
          Not a fi ha, thank you, Olgovich. The whole system and the country are being charged. Yes, the system is not perfect, it consists of people, officials. Will you fit every official in the head and in your soul so that he is conscientious? I would like to ask you and the author - go to church? If so, are you serving the poor? Or not? Are you missing someone? So it is here. And look, they published in the media about her only after death. And before that? Did she live alone or did people live next to her? Why were they silent? Convenient position to blame the system. I do not condone. But, people, those who were nearby should first be asked for the silence and tribulations of Marina. And it’s so convenient - and Russia is to blame.
          1. free
            free 27 February 2018 18: 20
            +6
            And what does Russia have to do with demand from officials, that is, from the authorities.
          2. Vladimir 5
            Vladimir 5 1 March 2018 21: 20
            0
            Corrupt bureaucracy will provide and do everything for bribes to everyone, but Russian patriotism has been replaced by profit and the desire for permanent residence in the west .. That's why they send Menshikov and others, knowing what awaits her there. (what was strangled in the cell, everyone understands - the three others were sleeping there and did not hear the wheezing of the dying) ... First, treat the system and only by changing the president with a bunch of close billionaires and a corrupt vertical will change the situation and possibly really create a "Russian world".
        2. cariperpaint
          cariperpaint 27 February 2018 17: 35
          +3
          what are you talking about? How can someone kick off a Russian citizen at the Moldovan Embassy? on what basis may this be required? why not to the ZIMBABWE embassy? Why post these tales here? did she have a Russian passport or what? on what document did she cross the border? already infuriates when they write about such nonsense to God. do you know that address at all? Address: Moscow, Lubyansky proezd, 27/1, building 1 (Kitay-Gorod metro station) Representation of the Supreme Council of the PMR in Moscow
          Among the main tasks of the mission is to represent the interests of the Supreme Council of the PMR, support compatriots living in the Russian Federation, help in organizing cultural, educational and business forums, congresses, as well as organizing and promoting the development of the Transnistrian diaspora in the Russian Federation
          1. Vvol
            Vvol 3 March 2018 19: 39
            0
            Quote: cariperpaint
            what are you talking about? how can someone a citizen of Russia

            Eh, apparently you don’t know, my friend, for example, the ins and outs of such a problem as "homelessness." The way a person who has lost “pieces of paper” becomes a “bug” for our bureaucracy. The way a person who has lost documents, who has lost a roof over his head, is driven by the authorities, and refuses to enter the position of a person who, say, is difficult to scrape up money even for that pathetic state fee for restoring a passport. Because getting a job can also be difficult ... And yes - do not rush to say that "there is nothing to bring as an example alcoholics, thieves, parasites, and try to make pity for such lost people! They are to blame!" In general, that, they say, is an unsuccessful example, for he has flung himself at a completely extreme phenomenon ... No, just the same, it is not only a matter of the errors and weaknesses of specific citizens - but also of the callousness and brutality of the bureaucratic machine, which was unable to reach out of his hand to lend a helping hand to those in need ... The bureaucracy of a healthy person and body, warmed by a new jacket and a house gull of a person can sometimes drive him into such a stupor - that he also sharply decreases his desire to get involved in the process of carrying out this very “managerial activity” ... And the fact that a particular woman was ignorant of her own rights:
            do you know that address at all? Address: Moscow, Lubyansky proezd, 27/1, building 1 (Kitay-Gorod metro station) Representation of the Supreme Council of the PMR in Moscow
            , does not mean that "it’s her own fault! - and the point!". Yes, a citizen, did not bother to thoroughly familiarize himself in advance, during the “prosperous” and “cloudless” period of his life, with his rights and obligations. Yes, the citizen turned out to be “timid” and not “persistent”, his hands immediately began to give up, as if, contrary to the saying, he was “hit” for the “demand” on the head, he did not go around everything else, all possible and I did not seek impossible answers from everyone in the world ... Well, believe me - there are a lot of such stories in life. And in theory, the tasks of the entire bureaucratic corps are to help a person solve his problem, to help understand the intricacies of laws and long lists of "addresses" to someone who, relatively speaking, is used to understanding only "how to turn nuts" ... So, let's not try to use only the "sensible" one in order to overthrow this "fake" about the "poor Transnistria" the logic". If you find specific refutations of the" all-proverbial "theses put forward on the basis of certain episodes of this story - then another thing. For I’m not leading to the fact that all our officials are a priori “soulless tyrants”, and that all our administrative structures are capable of nothing, and, in general, the guard, the battered walls! the pipes rusted! .. On the contrary, the same MFCs were a huge achievement. But not the final triumph of "humanism, democracy, prosperity, prosperity", etc. Our state "face to man" still unfold and unfold ... "Common sense", alas, in the "investigation" of this "case" will not help us. Moreover, you have already begun to be interested in specific issues:
            on what basis may this be required? why not to the ZIMBABWE embassy? Why post these tales here? did she have a Russian passport or what? on what document did she cross the border?
            No need to be a priori too good opinions about the bureaucracy. In life, not everything happens according to "how it should be" - it is necessary to disassemble "how it actually happened."
            1. cariperpaint
              cariperpaint 3 March 2018 23: 05
              0
              I will not write for a long time for laziness. I’ll just say this, I don’t understand the desire of people to punch a wall with their heads when there are doors. She is not the first to lose documents. and everyone solved their troubles. if we have our passport and if she crossed the border, she doesn’t even need to prove her identity, because it was recorded on the border. as for the rest, who forgive me must pay duties and so on? From a human point of view, it makes no sense to discuss bureaucratic troubles. sincerely sorry for her but then her personal difficulties. I don’t know where the difficulties are from, because now the process of obtaining a passport is extremely simple.
    2. Blue fox
      Blue fox 27 February 2018 12: 39
      +9
      But these were not attempts. Real requests from the military registration and enlistment office of military prosecutors from Chechnya and from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, even from the traffic police, were requests at the place of registration of personal cars, which were listed on the checkpoint of the military unit in the North Caucasian Military District at that time. After the murder of Budanov, many moved to an "illegal" position.
    3. GradusHuK
      GradusHuK 27 February 2018 23: 55
      +2
      What bestiality.
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  3. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 27 February 2018 06: 10
    +26
    "The choice is simply amazing. Either we sit and breathe evenly, or we do what conscience tells us. The result is prison bunks or a dance in the morning with a sheet.
    It’s easy to predict what normal people will choose. "
    I have been talking about this for many years. Only not such beautiful words. But nobody cares.
    1. free
      free 27 February 2018 08: 57
      +23
      Quote: Benzorez
      "The choice is simply amazing. Either we sit and breathe evenly, or we do what conscience tells us. The result is prison bunks or a dance in the morning with a sheet.
      It’s easy to predict what normal people will choose. "
      I have been talking about this for many years. Only not such beautiful words. But nobody cares.

      And at the same time you want to vote for Putin, but will they give out under him!? Is it not under him and his government that they betray the Russian world? Such activists are very dangerous for the current government of the Russian Federation, because they will begin to ask uncomfortable questions over time hearing. Therefore they deport. Both in Ukraine and in Russia the oligarchs are in power, and here and there they sell the country.
      1. krops777
        krops777 27 February 2018 11: 48
        +3
        And at the same time you want to vote for Putin, but will they give out under him!? Is it not under him and his government that they betray the Russian world? Such activists are very dangerous for the current government of the Russian Federation, because they will begin to ask uncomfortable questions over time hearing. Therefore they deport. Both in Ukraine and in Russia the oligarchs are in power, and here and there they sell the country.


        Again fsepropalo, but essentially, knowing that the time is right and what prevented her from leaving and entering Russia again? Sorry, but the law is the law it must be observed.
        1. free
          free 27 February 2018 18: 17
          +10
          Quote: krops777
          And at the same time you want to vote for Putin, but will they give out under him!? Is it not under him and his government that they betray the Russian world? Such activists are very dangerous for the current government of the Russian Federation, because they will begin to ask uncomfortable questions over time hearing. Therefore they deport. Both in Ukraine and in Russia the oligarchs are in power, and here and there they sell the country.


          Again fsepropalo, but essentially, knowing that the time is right and what prevented her from leaving and entering Russia again? Sorry, but the law is the law it must be observed.

          I did not say that everything was lost, I just no longer believe in a fairy tale about a good king and evil boyars.
          1. Grigory_78
            Grigory_78 28 February 2018 20: 41
            +2
            In my opinion, Putin’s biggest fault is a weak punishment system for officials. Yes, and in general, "ilite". Hence the mess.
            The same Shmara Baghdasaryan - her actions have long come under the definition of "hooliganism." Article 213, then the task of the prosecutor is to determine on which part of the article to build the charge.
        2. Vvol
          Vvol 3 March 2018 20: 14
          0
          Again fsepropalo, but essentially, knowing that the time is right and what prevented her from leaving and entering Russia again? Sorry, but the law is the law it must be observed.
          Respected! The task of officials is to clarify and explain everything to a person, enter his position, and solve his problem without overloading the courts and the penitentiary system, which must deal with real "malicious offenders", criminals and other villains, "shooting" cases such “fools”, “simpletons”, “losses”, “tardies” and “brakes”. It is advisable to do this all in advance as part of prevention, in the form of outreach and good suggestions from all irons and dummies, and in the form of a constantly available hotline ... And the law ... And what is the law? You can come up with a law according to which it is supposed to guillotine everyone who, for more than 10 minutes, hangs aimlessly in a radius of 50 meters around the police station. Either go to the police station, or pass by. But, you see, the security of an important state institution will increase significantly. What is not good ?! It is only as a result of the zealous "execution" of such a "law" that a lot of visiting "city guests" and tourists will end up in death row ... "The law that drew - where it turned, it turned out!" So do not start the topic "blame yourself!". It’s one thing for a layman to suddenly transgress in something “sacred” and “the same for everyone!” law, another - bloody recidivist. The state in theory here is also obliged, for its part, to exert efforts to problem solution, and not lazily sitting in the chair of the chair, wave a pen: "execute this, execute that too! there is nothing for any sack and lackeys to break the laws established by the State Duma!".
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      3. RomanS
        RomanS 27 February 2018 11: 51
        +5
        Do you know who is more dangerous than a fool? endowed with power! You are either a provocateur or a person with limited legal capacity. It is worth understanding the cause and effect relationships. The answer is: https://pikabu.ru/story/yeto_putin_vinovat_209802
      4. 210ox
        210ox 27 February 2018 16: 53
        +2
        What do these activists have to do with it? There is a huge mass of their citizens like a bone in their throats. For officials, the Pension Fund and further on the list.
        Quote: free
        Quote: Benzorez
        "The choice is simply amazing. Either we sit and breathe evenly, or we do what conscience tells us. The result is prison bunks or a dance in the morning with a sheet.
        It’s easy to predict what normal people will choose. "
        I have been talking about this for many years. Only not such beautiful words. But nobody cares.

        And at the same time you want to vote for Putin, but will they give out under him!? Is it not under him and his government that they betray the Russian world? Such activists are very dangerous for the current government of the Russian Federation, because they will begin to ask uncomfortable questions over time hearing. Therefore they deport. Both in Ukraine and in Russia the oligarchs are in power, and here and there they sell the country.
      5. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 27 February 2018 19: 41
        +4
        "And at the same time you want to vote for Putin, but will they give out under him !?"
        Who can guarantee that this will not happen with another person? And most importantly, who is this person?
        1. free
          free 27 February 2018 19: 49
          +7
          Quote: Benzorez
          "And at the same time you want to vote for Putin, but will they give out under him !?"
          Who can guarantee that this will not happen with another person? And most importantly, who is this person?

          Well, right, who can guarantee that under the new ruler they will not give in 2 times more, let them do it now. So it turns out? Or maybe you don’t need to hand over at all, isn’t it better?
          1. Petrol cutter
            Petrol cutter 27 February 2018 21: 07
            +1
            That is, you suggest going into experiments. Good. I'm not real. I am always for it! Good offer. But you have not voiced a worthy candidate ...
            1. free
              free 27 February 2018 23: 50
              +4
              Quote: Benzorez
              That is, you suggest going into experiments. Good. I'm not real. I am always for it! Good offer. But you have not voiced a worthy candidate ...

              So we choose from what is, and from what I choose Grudinin. I think it is better than 17 more years to wait for miracles, which by the way do not happen.
              1. Midshipman
                Midshipman 28 February 2018 09: 11
                +3
                Where did this Grudinin come from? Two months, as his last name surfaced, from the Communists, whom he was not. Huckster with millions in Swiss banks. How can you even vote for this? Nonsense. Or social experiments do not give rest?
      6. Orionvit
        Orionvit 4 March 2018 15: 53
        +2
        Quote: free
        And at the same time you want to vote for Putin, but will they give out under him !?

        Twenty five again. And here is Putin, when the conversation is about the system? Gentlemen, comrades, you generally understand, well, vote for others, no one bothers you. One generally gathered to give Crimea, another guardian for Russia, with its billions in Switzerland can not figure it out. With such concepts as yours and faith in a fairy tale, like young children, Russia will always have a mess. Instead of sorting out the decision of a separate bureaucrat who made a specific decision (on deportation), they raise a heart-rending howl, "Putin is to blame." On the other hand, if some migrant from Central Asia were expelled, no one would move, well, here we are talking about our people. If you damn citizens are so smart, blame everything right away on the Lord of God. He is omnipotent, he is all-merciful, he is all-loving, but the mess in the world is such that mom does not grieve. Where is the order in the world? And you are all about Putin.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 4 March 2018 18: 17
          +2
          GDP could have made the deportation process limited precisely in line with the policy of a unified Russian world, a decree or something else ... but we have legislators whom we have chosen and who cannot work without a kick from above, there is an executive branch that works by a kick from above, law enforcement system, the courts are not ah.
          In short, the GDP is to blame for everything ... but it’s really so to look, should he go to kick everyone ???? Yes, at the top they really don’t know much. What is happening on the lower levels, because IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!
          Until we become a RESPONSIBLE SOCIETY, ourselves monitoring everything and everything and not letting go of its jambs, we will live as before. In a different way anywhere in the world does not happen!
          1. Orionvit
            Orionvit 4 March 2018 22: 43
            +1
            Quote: rocket757
            he should go to kick all ???? Yes, at the top they really don’t know much. What is happening on the lower levels, because IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!

            Exactly.
            In a different way anywhere in the world does not happen!
            In my opinion, this is almost everywhere in the world, and in some places even worse. But some people think that if they vote for the next storyteller, they will immediately find themselves in paradise.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 5 March 2018 08: 08
              +2
              In the Land of Soviets, I was a party committee, a trade union committee, and a lot of other things ... et of course, but the identity itself had to move!
              Now we need to move three times intensely, otherwise nothing will happen.
  4. Alex1977RUS
    Alex1977RUS 27 February 2018 06: 11
    +20
    I deleted everything, in our most just and free country, and I can sit down for the commentary on the separatism article. There were precedents already. Glory to the Great Russia! Glory to the Great Putin! Strong President - Strong Power! Author - The Naimite Department of State slanders Putin's Plan !!!!
    How much did Psaki pay him for slandering our beloved Leader?
    1. sergo1914
      sergo1914 27 February 2018 06: 47
      +18
      Quote: Alex1977RUS
      beloved Leader


      Not this way. Beloved Leader. Both words with a capital letter. Are you getting old or what? To allow such mistakes.
      1. Antares
        Antares 27 February 2018 12: 06
        +2
        Quote: sergo1914
        Beloved Leader. Both words with a capital letter. Are you getting old or what? To allow such mistakes.

        Scary life-important death ..
        Maybe even bold highlight, well, for sure? And they say, not sincerely, pretend.
        Hmm ... a country can often be confused with the elite, with the government, the apparatus ... a specific person. But they all come / go, the country remains.
  5. tasha
    tasha 27 February 2018 06: 29
    +9
    We are losing both the territory and the souls of Ukrainian citizens.

    No wonder. I came across a book by A. Orlov, "Ukrainian Matrix. Reloaded". Published in 2006 (!) Year. Examples from Ukrainian school textbooks are given. The children in these textbooks have already grown up ...
  6. samarin1969
    samarin1969 27 February 2018 06: 35
    +23
    "The tragedy of Marina Menshikova is the tragedy of all the supporters of the" Russian world "outside of Russia.
    And at the same time this is our problem. Because at such a pace, the concept of "Russian world" will consist of one Russia. "
    Thanks to Roman for raising this "uncomfortable" topic. Supporters of the “Russian world” are the best that Russia has. During hard times they are ahead, but behind those ..... am like these judges ... Russia will end when there will be absolutely no such people as Marina. And it doesn’t matter - on which side of the border .... In the "RF" there are no less "filatov" people than in Ukraine.
  7. Altona
    Altona 27 February 2018 07: 10
    +5
    The names of the judges in Crimea and the prosecutor in Ukraine seem to coincide. In general, thanks to all kinds of documents on “friendship and cooperation”, “mutual legal assistance”, our judges and prosecutors act “according to the letter of the law”.
    1. Colonel
      Colonel 27 February 2018 12: 09
      +2
      Quote: Altona
      sort of match

      Like brothers.
  8. Altona
    Altona 27 February 2018 07: 16
    +11
    Quote: samarin1969
    Because at such a pace, the concept of "Russian world" will consist of one Russia. "

    ------------------------------
    At such a pace, the "Russian world" will consist of fragments even in Russia itself.
    We have a constant race for the dough. Give the dough, we won’t get drunk, we will sell everything. We wanted an apartment, now we want a house. We just wanted a car, now we want Toyota (IOC sponsor by the way), we want, give, give, you die today, but that I only tomorrow. Here is our motivation to walk on our heads.
  9. bober1982
    bober1982 27 February 2018 07: 19
    +3
    When they start to quote Filatov, a scumbag, this is called a hidden advertisement. And the article says nothing that this tragedy could well be the murder of a woman (which is most likely), and not suicide. The author does not need to draw hasty conclusions.
    1. zoolu350
      zoolu350 27 February 2018 08: 34
      +14
      Who cares? The bottom line is that the lackeys of the owners of the Fed banderlog ukroreyha, with the full connivance and even complicity of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation destroyed another supporter of the Russian World.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 27 February 2018 08: 39
        +3
        The famous phrase of ukronacist Filatov, whom the author of the article so eagerly quotes and calls the mayor of the city of the Dnieper .......... and hang, then we will hang ......
        1. zoolu350
          zoolu350 27 February 2018 08: 58
          +14
          I say it again. Actions like Filatov are logical, because they are enemies. But the actions of the “patriots” from the oligarchy of the Russian Federation are disgusting.
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 27 February 2018 09: 05
            +2
            Quote: zoolu350
            and hang, then we will hang ...

            And I repeat again.
            With such a quote I had to start the article. Once again I repeat.
  10. Alex_59
    Alex_59 27 February 2018 09: 44
    +6
    My friend has expired "stay in the Russian Federation." And no one left the exit for 5 years, did not deport him. All reacted with understanding. He applied for the citizenship of the Russian Federation, our officials told him everything themselves how it is easier to do everything. From him, the only thing required was to leave for the UA after the delay and immediately drive back, which he did (of course costs, but what to do). And after entering, they immediately accepted documents for citizenship.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 27 February 2018 09: 56
      +3
      And my friend had expired, and everything was the same as you indicated.
      1. Antares
        Antares 27 February 2018 12: 08
        0
        Quote: bober1982
        everything was the same as you indicated.

        in Ukraine, it happens similarly with Russian.
        By the way, the laws that the author wants to change ... a lot of things rest on them. There, not only the "Russian world" but ordinary criminals are still being handed over. Yes, and the Russians live / move, Ukrainians .. despite all the relationships and prohibitions, they regulate the main thing.
  11. New Year day
    New Year day 27 February 2018 09: 51
    +11
    "Russia will leave you, son. Always" (c) "
    The constant issuance by Russia of “their” Ukrainians is generally longing and sadness.
    you will no longer be a fighter for the idea of ​​the “Russian world”, but a mercenary. Which must be judged and imprisoned.
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    The predicted death of Novorossia and agreements with Bandera, the betrayal of the patriots, the manifestations of this are indicated above. What will be the "North wind" or just the breeze? For some reason, this is not surprising.
  12. Vasya Svoyakov
    Vasya Svoyakov 27 February 2018 11: 18
    +7
    In my opinion, only we ordinary, normal people believe in the Russian World. To the elites this drum world ...
  13. Radikal
    Radikal 27 February 2018 12: 54
    +1
    Quote: Vard
    Unfortunately, the phenomenon has a place to be ... I know people who fought ... And now they hide it ... Let’s recall at least the attempts of the Chechen law enforcement agencies to reach those .. Who was sent to fight in Chechnya ...

    yes
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 27 February 2018 14: 17
      +4
      Unfortunately, in order to see the light, one needs to learn about the death of a person who has not reconciled with the disaster in his country.
      Our brothers have trouble! We were late, did not want to admit. that this trouble touched us all and at once ... we’re waiting for something! Trying to pay off.
      Himself like that, my friends, we were just mistaken, we thought we were helping than we could and that was enough !!!
      Not enough.
  14. Altona
    Altona 27 February 2018 13: 10
    +4
    Quote: colonel
    Like brothers.

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    I did not look into the passports, so I spoke cautiously, hinting at a possible conspiracy between these "namesakes." One brother famously reported on the deportation of an illegal migrant, the second on the detention of a malicious separatist.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 27 February 2018 14: 12
      +5
      Or honestly accuse them of killing a person?
      So, honestly, how is it?
  15. rocket757
    rocket757 27 February 2018 14: 10
    +2
    The law is the law and ... it's scary!
    To give people to death is a crime.
    Judicial, prosecutor’s, deputies at the floor all the little pot-bellied thing, without a shout, nothing will be done from above.
    Where to write, what to do ... can we direct a petition to the Supreme Petition with a rocket, Schaub flew for sure ???
    Can things go while the election stir is ??? If there is, up there, whoever cares, what is going on in our country in relation to people who have not forgotten that we are relatives, one faith, one blood.
    I didn’t know that we could have such a thing, I didn’t believe in it, I was mistaken, I repent and forgive all those who suffered from our soullessness!
    This is my personal opinion, I do not call in the ranks, but if anyone knows what needs to be done, tell me the way !!!
  16. worms
    worms 27 February 2018 16: 06
    +1
    the article is clearly of Sumerian origin ....
    We are losing both the territory and the souls of the citizens of Ukraine. Irrevocably.
    are we losing? these are the Sumerians, moving farther and farther away from Russia, the question is, did someone expel the Sumerians at 91 ?? or maybe the Sumerians VOTED VOTING to come out ??
    And in the place where the Russians used to be, tomorrow Svidomity will grow, aimed against Russia. They will be grown purposefully and with the tacit consent of the majority. Actually, this is already happening.
    in fact, this is already happening ... the author, ay this has already happened, in Bumera Bandera and Svidomo have grown up who hate Russia and want to hang Russians ...
    The constant issuance by Russia of "their" Ukrainians is generally longing and sadness
    mmm, the author correctly noticed by writing "his" Ukrainians in quotation marks for his own, and even Ukrainians, in nature does not exist, there are only strangers ... as a matter of fact, you .... hi
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 27 February 2018 16: 15
      +2
      You can read the article of the mayor of the Dnieper, not our brother rejoices.
      The article doesn’t matter whose, for the Russian Menshikov everything is true, in another place I found out.
  17. worms
    worms 27 February 2018 16: 16
    +1
    Quote: tasha
    The children who studied in these textbooks have already grown ..

    heh they started to grow according to other textbooks with 91 and they have grown, but we are losing, WE LOSE, it’s the Sumerians who are to blame for everything, they raised our children ourselves like that, but WE'RE GUILTY, WE LOSE THERE ....
  18. worms
    worms 27 February 2018 16: 17
    0
    Quote: rocket757
    To give people to death is a crime.

    Yes, yes, and so she was sent with a sign on her neck, EXTENDING .... lol
  19. Radikal
    Radikal 27 February 2018 16: 25
    +1
    Quote: Silvestr
    "Russia will leave you, son. Always" (c) "
    The constant issuance by Russia of “their” Ukrainians is generally longing and sadness.
    you will no longer be a fighter for the idea of ​​the “Russian world”, but a mercenary. Which must be judged and imprisoned.
    ---------------------------------------
    The predicted death of Novorossia and agreements with Bandera, the betrayal of the patriots, the manifestations of this are indicated above. What will be the "North wind" or just the breeze? For some reason, this is not surprising.

    Ilyich, as always, is right! And how many of these we have here on the site ... sad
  20. worms
    worms 27 February 2018 16: 45
    0
    Quote: rocket757
    for the Russian Menshikov everything is true, in another place I found out.

    and I don’t think Russian Sumerians, because how can I consider people Russian if in 91 more than 90% of them voted for independence from Russia, if they are considered Russian after this act then they are traitors ... and in fact that They have Filatov and many more are to blame for this Menshikova, because she was born and lived in Ukraine
    RUSSIAN WORLD
    Marina Menshikova: All my life I dreamed of leaving for Russia
    so what didn’t move ?? but it’s just a little garden there, the hut was kept ... the trouble of all such idealists like Menshikova I wanted, I dreamed but Russia was to blame for everything ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 27 February 2018 19: 09
      +7
      Many claims can be made to a person.
      Explain identity a bunch to come up, Schaub to justify itself.
      I also stood a couple of months ago on the idea that we have such a law
      All this does not cost anything against the real event that the person was sent to death and that was, in fact, FAMOUS to everyone!
      To protect some kind of goats ... the frame from the liberal tusny was everything, from that shobla, there were reasons to return him to where his real criminal article was waiting for, there were ... but only our "most humane" court in the world did not want to mess with shrill crowd ... honestly let's say, an enemy crowd!
      And to protect a simple such a small person, as if not ours now, but OUR SPIRIT, this state does not go, WHY ???
      We probably scream and fight in hysterics are not accustomed ... well, wait until they squeeze everything out of us, under our deaf, silent murmur!
      1. worms
        worms 27 February 2018 20: 35
        0
        you don't seem to understand me .... lol if it were my will, I would send all the Sumerians without citizenship home at once .... and if I had the opportunity to act quite freely, I would send all those Sumerians who moved to our residence permanently after 2010, when everything was already the future of Sumeria whoever escaped leaving their homeland is defectors and opportunists who will run away from us will be even a little difficult ... in my understanding what is happening in Sumeria is solely the Sumerians, as we were to blame for what happened during the EBN and today's embezzlement ... it’s easy to nod at mattresses or goirians, but everyone has their own head and no one in the world is to blame for the fact that a person does not want to use it ... it's like in the example, a person smoked two packs of cigarettes a day, he developed cancer ... who is to blame ?? tobacco factory ?? maybe all the same man ?? and so this woman was expelled for violation of the migration regime; she expired the deadlines ... could this lady leave and drop in again ?? if she was so afraid of persecution in Ukraine, then she could call on the side of LDNR for our legislation, it is still Ukrainian territory ... did they comply with all the law, what else ?? no oa decided to score, maybe wanted to save ... what's the difference ?? moreover, this citizen was expelled from the territory of Crimea, where according to recent polls 30% recognized themselves as Sumerians, so maybe she was sent by a Sumer ?? what love is between the Sumerians however, but for me this young lady is a Sumerian like most residents of the same Crimea, for me if you were born and raised in Uzbekistan among Uzbeks you will be an Uzbek no matter how you sing about your ancestral roots or no matter how you stick out your surname ... I just have a spine and a mulatto, although the snout is black, but Russian is mentally ... why ?? but because among the Russians it grew, and those who scream in shumeriya that they were no longer Russian Russians, they all already grabbed the Selyuk traits of character and mentality ... to live with wolves, as they say ....
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 27 February 2018 22: 42
          +2
          Not interesting. end of communication.
  21. antivirus
    antivirus 27 February 2018 19: 41
    +1
    Because at such a pace, the concept of “Russian world” will consist of one Russia
    unfortunately only part of Russia
  22. Doliva63
    Doliva63 27 February 2018 19: 59
    +5
    Capitalist Russia is only interested in income / taxpayers, preferably large ones. Who is this Marina to her? We have chosen the path of development, where man to man is a wolf. Glory to Russia, Th. And to all of us.
  23. worms
    worms 27 February 2018 22: 51
    0
    Quote: rocket757
    Not interesting. end of communication.

    you’re a clown .... in any case, you positioned yourself as the last answer ... although you are probably a Sumerian, being a clown at a sumer is in the blood, I don’t hold it back, a clown .... hi
  24. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 28 February 2018 03: 31
    0
    Yes, there is not a Russian and even more so Slavic world! These are all unattainable ideals such as love and communism. There are geopolitical communities. An example of the Great Patriotic War. Are there only Russians who fought there? And in the Donbass, only Russians fought against ukrofashists? Yes, in life, with the same Buryat or Chinese, you will quickly come to an agreement than with an ethnic Russian.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 28 February 2018 03: 33
      +3
      Quote: Seraphimamur
      Yes, in life, with the same Buryat or Chinese, you will quickly come to an agreement than with an ethnic Russian.

      smelled of Russophobia ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 28 February 2018 09: 35
        +4
        Living with illusions is harmful, sales are dangerous, but why give up ideals.
        The most important thing is to remain decent people, it can and does add problems, but better so
    2. Doliva63
      Doliva63 28 February 2018 19: 23
      +5
      Who is ethnic Russian, what kind of nonsense? Here I am - Russian. Father is a Pole, mother is a Buryat. I have a friend, father - Mordvin, mother - Tatar, according to the passport and conscience - Russian. Russian tsars are generally horrible. The Russian navigator Bellingshausen is a Livonian German. Russian, historically, is a paying tribute to Russia, no more. Then - those who accepted Russian citizenship. Then - living in a territory where there are no pronounced "national minorities" in the Russian Federation. Russians are not a nationality, they are a multinational people with common cultural traditions. Let me remind you, when creating Kievan Rus, Slavic tribes were 25%. And so the Russians appeared - a mixture of Slavs with Ugrians, Turks, Iranians.
      Phew, damn it, tired of being a captain of evidence. So who are the "ethnically" Russian? laughing
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 28 February 2018 20: 06
        +2
        There is a Russian spirit, there it smells of Rus!
        Well, yes, but the great Russian poet A.S. Pushkin who was in the family ... and in general. reasoning about ethnicity in the modern world is of more academic interest! Okay, the Ukrainians-Sumerians started some kind of bum, do we also have to do similar idiocy ???
        We are all residents of Russia, we work, live, serve to restore \ raise the greatness of this country ... we are Russian in spirit! That's the whole truth of life, and everything else is empty chatter! Empty chatter with the help of which they want to undermine our ONE.
        It is necessary to judge those freaks who give to the tear of our enemies, our brothers / sisters in spirit! To drive into the neck parasites that allow the existence of such laws that harm our brothers, our people, our faith in the Russian world!
  25. Ivan Malkovich
    Ivan Malkovich 28 February 2018 15: 42
    +1
    Details of the murder of Menshikova https://telesyk.livejournal.com/1062938.html
  26. seal78
    seal78 1 March 2018 18: 12
    +1
    Yeah. They were given these tattered 4 days. Why was it in such a hurry to deport?
  27. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 2 March 2018 11: 33
    +3
    And what is surprising? Our government is purposefully engaged in the destruction of the Russian world in order to destroy Russia in the future. While the liberals are in power, nothing good is shining for us.