Kuchma: Ukraine has never been a full-fledged state

Ex-President Leonid Kuchma said that Ukraine has never been a full-fledged state, and the people of the country are in a terrible situation today. His words leads "Ukraina.ru".

Ukraine has never been a state in the full sense of the word, and the current situation of Ukrainians is terrible. Seventy-five percent of the gross product is our debt. That's horrible. And who will pay for them? If now does not give the International Monetary Fund, what, to declare a default?

- he asks.

The politician is sure that the deputies of the Rada and the ruling elite led the country to such a state of affairs. At the same time, Kuchma noted that today politicians are preparing for the upcoming presidential and parliamentary elections, forgetting about the living conditions of the population and the state of the national economy.

We all looked forward to the Munich Conference. However, Ukraine was generally on the outskirts. Supposedly we do not exist there. If the president had not gone there and did not remind us that we are on the European map, so surely we would have forgotten. That's what scary. And we need to think about it

- declared Kuchma.

We will remind, earlier Kuchma expressed disagreement with the new law “on reintegration of Donbass”. In particular, the ex-president was unhappy that there was no mention of the Minsk agreements. In general, he considers this document to be political.

Comments

[Ravik]

And never will be ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

But Kuchma started this whole Sabbath with you .. We all remember! Are you trying to make excuses? Oh well..

[Svarog]

Quote: MIKHAN

But Kuchma started this whole Sabbath with you .. We all remember! Are you trying to make excuses? Oh well..

Withdrew from the tongue .. As soon as people lose power, they acquire a brain ..

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Svarog

As soon as people lose power, they acquire a brain ..

In addition to "our" Gorbach ... He still considers himself, well, you know who ..

[Svarog]

Repentance from this should not be expected .. Boris pretended to repent, but his wife Naina, the 90s considers saints .. Everyone needs to be judged .. But as long as there is continuity in power, this will never happen .. Everyone covers each other .. And this creates the irresponsibility of senior management .. Which we all observe ..

[alexmach]

Well, by the way, he successfully maneuvered himself between Russia and the West, even the official course of political Ukraine was called "multi-vector." Here the truth is not only his personal merit, but perhaps, first of all, the world situation allows this to be done.

[oldseaman1957]

Kuchma: Ukraine has never been a full-fledged state

- Honored, finally! Kuchma was not a bad manager, but a politician ... "Ukraine is not Russia!" - the first (!) blinked, and rolled ... And now, he softened, a la Gorbachev ... And how they were overlooked in the USSR, nedodumkov!

[alexmach]

Yes, I also manager, Yuzhmash say ditched. But the politician was just the same difficult. To begin with, he was the only one who relatively quietly spent 2 terms in his chair (I would like to give special greetings to people who are talking about the need for a power shift, look at Ukraine for a prime, everything with change is okay, with everything else like- it’s not very). They laughed at Ukraine-non-Russia, but didn’t this statement become obvious to everyone now? Well and still he managed to at least not quarrel either with Russia or with the back of the West, or with big things or with any East European trifle. That's what and why he threw out at the end of his term - it is not entirely clear.

[oldseaman1957]

Quote: alexmach

They laughed at Ukraine-non-Russia,

- Ukrainians laughed at us, counting for free nerds feeding them. gas was almost two times cheaper than ours. "TU-160" did not allow the amers to cut everything, since Russia just gave them for gas, and not pay it was FAVORABLE! And here "smart Kuchma writes:" Russians live more “according to concepts," while Ukrainians mostly prefer law and order. (Especially now!) "" If Khmelnitsky is a symbol of the continuity of Ukrainian statehood from Kievan Rus to the present, then Mazepa represents for us an Alternative (!!!) "And now this tricky singing miracle teaches us to pick a finger in our nose!

[alexmach]

gas was almost two times cheaper than ours

This has never happened before.

And here "smart Kuchma writes:" Russians live more "according to concepts"

And damn it, really. Yes, a national trait.

while the majority of Ukrainians prefer law and order. (Especially now!) "

Well this is pulling an owl on a globe. Judging by this indicator, the Ukrainians are still more Russian than the Russians themselves ...

But in general I will see you a great connoisseur of his writings? So, what you need to understand is that he didn’t write it personally, and not quite on his own behalf. This book was written primarily by Ukrainian elites and yes, this is their main message.

[ecologist]

Under Yanukovych, gas was subsidized for the population and was cheaper for the population in Ukraine than in Russia, the budget suffered real losses. Now Lafa is over.

[alexmach]

Yeah, you only forget whose budget is the budget of Ukraine. Gas was dated at the expense of own production and revenues from transit and loans from state banks and direct injections from the budget. As a result, gas prices were real, maybe even cheap for Ukraine and not beyond space.

[Graz]

Well, what do you say to me when gas for foreigners was somewhere around $ 160 for 1000 cubic meters for Ukraine, it was sold for 50 bucks, I remember all that very well

[Axon]

looking from the couch, that's how it happens)))

[Cat]

That is yes. Then Ukraine was a more or less but normal country.

[Observer2014]

MIKHAN

But Kuchma started this whole Sabbath with you

Not from him. Before. Kravchuk. That's where the practical beginning is. Although if you philosophize about this, you can go much deeper in time.

[kpd]

The Sabbath began precisely with the connivance of Kuchma - they would have dispersed the first Maidan in 2004, maybe it would not have reached the current situation.

[Turkestan]

Let me disagree. It started much earlier. When the leaders of the USSR decided not to stir up the past, for the sake of the friendship of peoples and to release the Nazi accomplices. And as a result, now they are being repressed and no one is telling what they did during the years of the Second World War.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Turkestan

It started much earlier. When the leaders of the USSR decided not to stir up the past, for the sake of the friendship of peoples and to release the Nazi accomplices. And as a result, now they are being repressed and no one is telling what they did during the years of the Second World War.

And it began when the Ukrainian Khrushchev came to the supreme party power in the USSR and, according to his populist political initiative, opposed himself to Stalin!

[Antares]

Quote: Tatiana

Ukrainian Khrushchev

Kursk region tse Ukraine?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Antares

Kursk region tse Ukraine?

First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine
Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Ukrainian SSR
Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Ukrainian SSR
The first secretary of the Kiev regional committee of the CPSU (b)

[Tatyana]

And where is the Kursk region with the execution of hopak Khrushchev at Stalin's parties?

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Tatiana

And where is the Kursk region with the execution of hopak Khrushchev at Stalin's parties?

According to this logic, if I was born in Kazakhstan, it means Kazakh ...

[Serg65]

Quote: AllXVahhaB

According to this logic, if I was born in Kazakhstan, it means Kazakh ...

If you destroyed thousands of Kazakhs in Kazakhstan, and then to whitewash yourself, you would also become a Kazakh

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

and he only destroyed the Ukrainians there?

[Serg65]

Of course not only, I figuratively wrote

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

then select images more precisely

[To be or not to be]

Kuchma: "Ukraine has never been a state in the full sense of the word, .."
“Ukraine is not Russia” is a book of the second President of Ukraine Leonid Kuchma, published in 2003.

[loginovich]

It all started with Kravchuk.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: loginovich

It all started with Kravchuk.

it all started with the XX Congress of the CPSU

[Cat]

Remember and do not forget. And we also remember Yeltsin. And hunchback

[vasya.pupkin]

Quote: MIKHAN

But Kuchma started this whole Sabbath with you .. We all remember! Are you trying to make excuses? Oh well..

Before him there was still a "faithful Leninist" who headed the ideology in the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine, "cunning fox". Kravchuk. And then the party organizer of the Kuchma missile plant came to power, promising the people to "be friends with Russia." He quickly turned the professor-professor, and then the billionaire, his son-in-law, Jew Pinchuk. Then there was the book "Russia is not Ukraine" and other treason .

[sergevonsohrn]

exactly! if Kuchma showed firmness and did not allow the illegal transfer of power to Nazi Yushchenko’s “orange svre”, then the history of Ukraine could have gone quite differently .... and so, he “washed his hands” like Pontius Pontius! and now he "has seen" ....

[vasya.pupkin]

Quote: sergevonsohrn

exactly! if Kuchma showed firmness and did not allow the illegal transfer of power to Nazi Yushchenko’s “orange svre”, then the history of Ukraine could have gone quite differently .... and so, he “washed his hands” like Pontius Pontius! and now he "has seen" ....

the "heap" could not "show firmness," because Already then he was on the hook of the CIA, and Yushchenko was brought to power by “faithful Leninists” Simonenko, who added the missing voice to orange for canceling the 2nd round of elections due to “numerous violations” and this gave rise to the 3rd round
which is not foreseen. the constitution.

[Fox]

Quote: MIKHAN

But Kuchma started this whole Sabbath with you

he’s like Gorbachev, now he’s “laying straw” so that the devils wouldn’t fry so ...

[Ascetic]

Quote: MIKHAN

But Kuchma started this whole Sabbath with you .. We all remember! Trying to make excuses? Oh well.

Right. And ask him what now Ukraine is not Russia ? Once again, the air decided to change hands, the marketmaker.

[amr]

Under Kuchma, Ukraine had a frantic growth rate, about 14-16%, it was called the Ukrainian economic miracle, steeper than China and Japan ....
..... but the truth came the year 2004 and Yushchenko came, and then the tragedian began!
By the way, I went to this election and voted for Yushchenko ((((after that I don’t go to the polls and probably will never go to this circus!
We are called there only to have the legitimacy of power, but the elections themselves do not solve anything!

[Titsen]

Quote: Ravik

And never will be ...

And he came to his senses only now, after so many years as he himself had ruined everything!

Kosyachnik how dill will be? Tell me!

[svp67]

Quote: Titsen

Kosyachnik how dill will be?

Zradnik

[svp67]

Quote: Ravik

And never will be ...

And here is a lot of interesting things ... it seems that the West decided to divide Ukraine and surrender its eastern part to us. Otherwise, the information that I learned yesterday I can not understand. According to recent reports, the main thing is that the overwhelming destruction of enterprises is taking place precisely in the eastern half of Ukraine, but new industries are being created, most of them in the Western ...

[Tatyana]

svp67
It seems the West decided to divide Ukraine and surrender its eastern part to us.

No, it is not!

According to recent reports, the main thing is that the overwhelming destruction of enterprises is happening in the eastern half of Ukraine, but new enterprises are being created, most of them in the Western ...

There is a reason for this, which was already written in the article on VO from 26 of June 2014 of the year "What problem does America solve?" - https://topwar.ru/52987-kakuyu-zadachu-reshaet-am
erika.html
The whole thing MUCH rests on the presence in the South-East of Ukraine of the Yuzovskoye gas field, which is located under Slavyansk itself, under the cities of the DPR and LPR and in shale projects for its production by US-European firms.
On the one hand, in places where shale gas was extracted - in the USA, as well as in Ukraine already - water becomes completely unsuitable for drinking and watering. In it, harmful impurities exceed biological norms in 50 and more than once. Drinking water from the tap flashes if you bring a match to it. The territory is becoming disastrously ecologically unsuitable for people to live and farm. It completely falls out of circulation for the reproduction of people, animals, plants. The question is how many years? It is believed that 100 years after the cessation of gas production, and maybe more, will not be enough to restore the environment naturally.
Therefore, in the production of shale gas work in shifts. Local residents are not allowed to mining because of the fear of the owners of the sabotage production by the local population.
And on the other hand, the article made an analytical conclusion-forecast for Ukraine from 7 points. I will try out of them only the first 3.
And you yourself can see how accurate this forecast was.

1. The ethnic conflict in Ukraine was provoked by the USA and the EU countries for the physical destruction of people in the areas of production by the Americans and the Poles of shale gas. The Russian population has nothing to do with it. People of other nationalities would live here, find fault with people of other nationalities. The peoples of Ukraine would be divided, if not by language, then by eyes, ears, etc.
2. Paying Ukraine and the Ukrainians any compensation for the fact that part of their territory as a result of the parasitism of Americans and other foreigners in Ukraine falls into an environmental disaster and in fact simply falls out of the places where people live, no one is going to and will not.
3. In order to reduce the degree of future social problems in Ukraine and to “observe” the future in the future, in the eyes of the world community, Americans, who own the lion's share of the shale business in Ukraine, are interested in completely destroying the entire population in Slavyansk and its surrounding areas. settlements. And it will be completely destroyed by military means, including women and children according to the principle “There is no person - and there are no problems!”
Therefore, for the sake of the prosperity of American business in Ukraine, the city of Slavyansk, as well as all cities and towns above the Yuzovsky gas field and near it, according to the plans of the Americans, should be wiped off the face of the Earth by the National Army of Ukraine. What is being done. Any political negotiations on how to stop the bloodshed will be futile. And the agreement on them from the United States and the like is just a bluff.

See - https://topwar.ru/52987-kakuyu-zadachu-reshaet-am
erika.html

[svp67]

Quote: Tatiana

The whole thing is REPAIRED by the presence in the Southeast of Ukraine of the Yuzovsky gas field,

Even if you take your version as a basis, then why are factories in Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye destroyed? From them to Yuzovka far enough

[Tatyana]

svp67
Why are factories in Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye destroyed? From them to Yuzovka far enough

FIRST. Well, At first, the colonialist scheme has so far remained the same as always. Colonies are needed by the capitalist invaders: 1) to expand their markets for the sale of their products; 2) to capture new territories with their natural wealth from sovereign peoples and states, 3) to obtain cheap - slave - labor.
SECOND. Need to know which new industries are being built there? What is their strategic purpose7
However now - this is secondly humanity enters the post-capitalist (i.e., after classical capitalism) era - the so-called "digital era" with its robotics and robotics.
Therefore, in post-capitalism, the first two points remain relevant for those in power, but the labor force becomes too big for them in the form of the so-called "extra people", which, in their opinion, should be disposed of by those in power.
In this regard, the Ukrainian Zionist Igor Berkut spoke very openly. By the way, his statement applies to the Russians.

5 of millions of inhabitants will be enough for Ukraine, the rest will be utilized by Igor Berkut. Published: 1 Oct. 2014

[karish]

Quote: Tatiana

In this regard, the Ukrainian Zionist Igor Berkut spoke very openly. By the way, his statement applies to the Russians.
5 of millions of inhabitants will be enough for Ukraine, the rest will be utilized by Igor Berkut. Published: 1 Oct. 2014

It’s a pity, up to 5 million will have to wait a long time

42 million people, natural decline - 0.39%
So we will not build our new Kaganate.
Although in the global governance of the world by us, Ukraine is a small screw, but even as little things as possible are scattered about trifles - a shekel penny is saved.

What are we talking about Russia there?
Is there anything new?

[svp67]

Quote: karish

42 million people

What kind of 42 million are you talking about. There is such a “bread index” when, based on the consumption of bread, we can conclude about the number of people living in a given area, without making calculations. So, according to this index, the population of Ukraine ranges from 26 to 35 million, in different periods, but does not exceed 35 million. And this is starting in 2014.

[siberalt]

Kuchma himself knows what he built. Here he will not lie.

[Cat]

There is an impression that right now he is tearing his hair in all inaccessible places

[Kent0001]

this is when it’s not fate ..... a vivid illustration of under-state. they have been told about this for a long time in VO, current horses did not believe us, so their crest told them the same thing.

[Vend]

Quote: Ravik

And never will be ...

With such a first president laying the foundations of Ukrainian statehood, of course not.

[210ox]

And is he still alive !? And not even in the Peacemaker?

[Alex777]

It reached Kuchma at last. Well, better sooner rather than later ... He is not just alive - he heads the delegation at the talks in Minsk. Apparently everything was explained there.

[Serg65]

Quote: 210ox

And not even in Peacemaker?

Dmitry with the fortune of 1,5 billion Baku presidents in the Peacemaker club is not accepted!

[210ox]

It’s a pity. The site would fix its financial affairs ..

Quote: Serg65

Quote: 210ox

And not even in Peacemaker?

Dmitry with the fortune of 1,5 billion Baku presidents in the Peacemaker club is not accepted!

[Serg65]

Quote: 210ox

The site would fix its financial affairs

My friend, yes ktozh it will allow him ????

[Okolotochny]

Sergey, , count more family grandmothers - the son-in-law of his cunning Jew Pinchuk should also be counted. So there will be more.

[Serg65]

Hi Lesh!
Lesh, the most interesting thing is that the Ukrainian Kuchma turned out to be trickier than the “Ukrainian” Kolomoisky! And he stayed with grandmas and doesn’t run on the run!

[Okolotochny]

And because in the assistants of Kuchma "a real broad Ukrainian Pinchuk." Reminds of “real Russians” Aven, Friedman, Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky, Gusinsky, Abramovich.

[Angel_and_Demon]

We all looked forward to the Munich Conference. However, Ukraine was generally on the outskirts. Supposedly we do not exist there. If the president had not gone there and did not remind us that we are on the European map, so surely we would have forgotten. That's what scary. And we need to think about it

What is his high opinion of Ukraine - in the backyards, but in fact - in a latrine, and which of the cultural people recalls this place during an intelligent conversation?

[Herculesic]

For the hundredth time, a political prostitute changes her mind as a weather vane spins! Forgot that being in power grabbed well, and lived off the blackmail of Europe and Russia with threats to block the pipe?

[Alex ..]

The sad fate of those peoples, where freaks are honored as heroes ...

[Kent0001]

We must remember, I liked it. Direct about Ukrainians better and can not be said.

[samarin1969]

This professional beggar has always sought to “milk” his neighbors. You can recall his contented “face” when the Russian president painfully reprimanded the “restructuring” of Ukrainian gas debts. ...
“If the president hadn’t gone there and reminded that we are on the European map, we probably would have forgotten. That's what’s scary.”
And in relation to Donbass and Russia, this person is no less "evil" than the site "Peacemaker" itself.
"We need not to do what we were doing - we were trying to persuade the other side (Russia), but there had to be tough, clear measures and that side would understand perfectly well that the games were over."

[maxxavto]

It took over 20 years to understand this !!! Now we are waiting for understanding that in Ukraine the rampant Nazism-a hangover will be tough !!!

[Troll]

And the source of the collapse of Ukraine was personally Comrade. Kuchma. After all, it was he who received in administration one of the fattest fragments of the empire ..
I’d apologize, you shit.

[midshipman]

I remember this leader when he was the secretary of the party committee of one of the enterprises. Then he tried to entertain me during lunch with the Minister when I arrived with the Minister. I asked the Minister: "Who is this man." Pyotr Stepanovich answered very colorfully.
In Ukraine, 9 enterprises and research institutes were subordinate to me; more than 90 thousand specialists worked there. There are no such enterprises, only one managed to escape to Russia. And how we trained the Ukrainians! How to create new production (micro and nano technology, automatic. Workshops, sections and GAPy). Everything went to dust. What the Russian Federation invested in this republic was lost. I am sorry Kiev, Odessa, Kharkov. But I do not regret Khmelnytsky and Lviv, these two regions were hostile to Russia even then. Admire labeled and drunk with your labors. I have the honor.

[Antares]

Quote: midshipman

What the Russian Federation invested in this republic was lost.

RF or RFSR? Or the USSR?
They began to invest in these lands under the king. It was beneficial (well, when the order, and not the "victory of democracy over reason" A good combination of climate, geolocation

[Okolotochny]

What climate, ignoramus? And in the Urals, a lot of enterprises and research institutes are depressed? They tried to develop you, to replace selyukostvo. Due to the welfare of the population of Russia, the RSFSR if you want.

[vasya.pupkin]

Antares: was the pan-sumer sumer worried about the “climate”? You go to the Carpathians and see what your brothers turned the relict forests into. Why don't you notice the whole compounds with black soil that has been created for centuries. "Pot calls the kettle black..."

[Vard]

It seems that it has begun ... A decision has been made to divide Ukraine and liquidate it as a state ... Well, what kind of dust is it ... again, a crowd of parasites on our heads ... and you won’t send ... "Brothers Slavs"

[zivXP]

You can help, but only fishing rods. For rent. Do not give fish.

[just exp]

so they will be the first to ask the business of the fish, for as long as they say something for fishing, half of the population will glue fins from hunger.

[Mountain shooter]

The unsuccessful Bolshevik project "Ukraine" must be CLOSED. In the framework of decommunization.
The only question is when ...

[andrson]

These guys know how to arrange problems for themselves ..

[New Year day]

and Kuchma is the main culprit. With his submission, "Ukraine is not Russia," the creep of nationalism into the world began. With his participation, nationalists began to appear on television. Now he sprinkles ashes on his head.

[taiga2018]

artificially created cannot be full-fledged ... this time! and a people who cannot figure out their origin and find roots even in Sumerians cannot create a full-fledged state ... these are two!

[bratchanin3]

Kuchma is one of the founders of the current disagreement and the actual collapse of statehood and the loss of controllability. Kuchma, one of the first guides to secede from Russia, even wrote a book, a fool, in substantiating the independence of the ukrocheloveka.

[Turkestan]

In the entire history of the tragedy of today's Ukraine, this terry nationalism. And the reason for this is the criminally poor cadre work of the leaders of the Communist Party of the USSR who made the notorious nationalists who hate the Soviet regime and the Soviet state to control the republics. DO YOU WANT TO SAVE YOUR STATES? DO NOT USE MONONATIONAL IDEOLOGY IN STATE MANAGEMENT, this always leads to ethnic conflicts. Confirmation of my words is this current situation of the once flourishing Ukraine.

[Victor_B]

Started to suspect something?
Soon, very soon, the Vigilant Falcon will finally see that there is no outer wall in his cell.

[- = ANTRAX = -]

there is the same opinion about all the former republics. they were parasites.

[Monarchist]

"the deputies of the Rada and the power elite have led the country to this state of affairs," as it is. But let's be honest: always the people and the elite live in parallel worlds

[Michael_Zverev]

She was not an inferior state either.

[Servisinzhener]

Captain obvious

[soldier]

Just like Kuchma was not a full president

[sxfRipper]

So a hedgehog is clear - Ukraine is not Russia ©

[Dormidont]

How to suddenly hear this from this bunch of shit

[jovanni]

The politician is sure that the deputies of the Rada and the ruling elite led the country to such a state of affairs. At the same time, Kuchma noted that today politicians are preparing for the upcoming presidential and parliamentary elections, forgetting about the living conditions of the population and the state of the national economy.

And what is it? I forgot how I spread rot, how I sold the wealth created in the Soviet era, how I torn it from meat from Russia? And now, on their own fosterlings, the arrows translate ...

[demo]

We all looked forward to the Munich Conference. However, Ukraine was generally on the outskirts. Supposedly we do not exist there. If the president had not gone there and did not remind us that we are on the European map, so surely we would have forgotten. That's what scary. And we need to think about it
- declared Kuchma.

It was necessary to think earlier.
And now it’s necessary either to seek funds for a ticket to the “safe haven” or to look for a place in the nearest cemetery.

[Antares]

On the one hand, Kuchma is one of the “successors” with whom it all began.
On the other hand, it was under him that the largest growth of the Ukrainian economy was recorded. He laid the foundation for the tradition of "Maidan in the center of Kiev." How to get rid of this tradition now is hard to say.
As a politician, the man is ambiguous, but better than Yushchenko, Yanukovych, Kravchuk, etc.

[Wolka]

and who did not allow Kuchma to build a bright future for his country when he was the president of Ukraine, and now, it’s too late to drink Borjomi when the liver has already disappeared ...

[Fidel]

Old sly-assed party organizer YuMZ change shoes in the air?))

[Dzafdet]

Kuchma, download further! Heroam - fat! Fat to Ukraine! In general, your education has NEVER long lived. This is HISTORY, Mr. Kuchma! Former communist (allegedly), and now an ardent nationalist!

[Sergey-8848]

It’s as if Munich were distributing buns ...

[Lesorub]

Former President Leonid Kuchma said that Ukraine has never been a full-fledged state, and the people of the country today are in a terrible situation.

It’s good to sit and reason with good capital in a jar and with bread spread with red caviar - how ordinary Ukrainians live there, I don’t remember that Ukraine would flourish under Kuchma!

[Siberian]

And they live as they wanted. Check out the street polls. Why was the Maidan? "People wanted to live differently .." Here they live. Someone supported, someone did not care. And absolutely everything is simple. And difficult ones are, in your opinion, which ones? With gold threads in the ass. And there they have them.
Absolutely all the republics screamed that the country was being fed. And they won the war on Baku oil. All were offended, not gouged. And they wanted to live differently. And Khokhlohstadt and in a completely and generally different way. What jumped, then they have. Now let the pots with colander in scrap metal be handed over and galloped, galloped, galloped (mice when they freeze, tremble) - the movement warms and soothes the nerves.

[Lesorub]

Quote: Siberian

And they live as they wanted. View street polls

Do you really believe in "street polls" that is, what the zombies show?

[Siberian]

I believe what is dropped on the Internet. Do you see something else? I saw financial and other bare-headed Maidans under the walls of ZRada, but the reaction to the cancellation on May 9, to mockery of the Russian language, for example, is very languid, tending to zero.

[Lesorub]

Quote: Siberian

I believe what is dropped on the Internet. Do you see something else? I saw financial and other bare-headed Maidans under the walls of ZRada, but the reaction to the cancellation on May 9, to mockery of the Russian language, for example, is very languid, tending to zero.

Soon, the Chinese will hold a referendum in the Far East (on independence) - I think your reaction will be the same - they will cancel the same on May 9 and remove the Russian language, they will write well, the rest will not protest there))))))

[Siberian]

She lived in the Far East (Russian), there are many ethnic groups. Ukrainians (judging by the names), but the Chinese live in China and can host referendums about anything, I don’t mind

[Lesorub]

Quote: Siberian

but the Chinese live in China

Are you serious! )) Now there are more Chinese in the Khabarovsk region - probably more than Russians, and no one forbids them to go there to live and work), and even the Chinese renting a part of the territory will obviously not end well.
So are Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Belarus, etc. once considered one country, but over time, the Russian Federation recognized their independence!

[EvilLion]

And when he directed him, did he not know this?

[Proton]

How to grab money, soviet to eat yes with pots on your head to jump, so the state of ancient ukrov, and how long it is time to pay debts, so immediately they were never a state right now a little later the creep crawl help.

[Incvizitor]

deputies of the Rada and the power elite led the country to this state of affairs.

And Kuchma did such a white and fluffy for the benefit of this "country", but drove the devils away, did not give help to the "country"

[Ivan.A]

The politician is sure that the deputies of the Rada and the power elite led the country to this state of affairs.

All this is very strange and suspicious. Hey, you don’t confuse Kuchma, Putin is always to blame, but here .....

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Kuchma has a business, in Ukraine ... He senses what everything is going to and tries to save it! Are you trying to secure Kuchma’s sons and granddaughters ..? Let Australia run to Canada .. I don’t advise to Israel! (Only quietly ..)))

[Mavrikiy]

Kuchma: Ukraine has never been a full-fledged state

Ah, well done. While taxied, Ruin is a state, and then the situation ...
Who are you moving, Kuchma?

[APASUS]

Why pull out this mold covered with mold and serve this material as a sensational insight? After all, everyone who was at the helm of Ukraine, everyone contributed to the destruction of the state, to the destruction of national principles and the confrontation between Russians and Ukrainians. They are all worthy of a scaffold and they are once again promoted as experts !!
Remind me where it started:

[Metallurg_2]

Danilych already entered on the site "Peacemaker"?

[Domestic cat]

Quote: Fidel

Old sly-assed party organizer YuMZ change shoes in the air?))

He changed his shoes so many times that he began to wear shoes from different pairs.

[Vladimir 70]

Quote: Antares

On the one hand, Kuchma is one of the “successors” with whom it all began.
On the other hand, it was under him that the largest growth of the Ukrainian economy was recorded. He laid the foundation for the tradition of "Maidan in the center of Kiev." How to get rid of this tradition now is hard to say.
As a politician, the man is ambiguous, but better than Yushchenko, Yanukovych, Kravchuk, etc.

Kuchma is no better than Yushchenko, Yanukovych, Kravchuk. The fact that during his growth was a merit in the first place Borki-drunk who steered Russia

[faterdom]

Progress, however ... Slow, but progress.
"Ukraine is not Russia" - 2003.
Ukraine is not a state - 2018.
Ukraine la la la - what year? Neither Kuchma nor Ukraine can stand another 15 years, so let them realize it faster.

[weddu]

For Ukraine to become like Germany, it is necessary that Ukrainians leave Ukraine, and the Germans come there, using the remnants of both maids and plumbers. What is actually happening now, without war.
Relocate all the people of Ukraine to Germany, and all the people of Germany to Ukraine, and in 5 years Ukraine will become Germany, and Germany Ukraine. Because the Germans are not Sumerian horses, the Germans are a breed.

[Zomanus]

This is the dude who wrote "Ukraine is not Russia"?
Well, let him now clearly see this.
As time has shown, Ukraine is not a country at all.

[loha]

Conclusions ..... Leonid Kuchma said he was never a full president

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: loha

Conclusions ..... Leonid Kuchma said he was never a full president

Yes, they are all there of the same field of berries ...

[alexmach]

Graz,
This is you talking some nonsense

gas was almost two times cheaper than ours

Under Yanukovych, gas was subsidized for the population and was cheaper for the population in Ukraine than in Russia

What are you saying? is it cheaper than the Rosiyan, or is it cheaper than the Europeans?

And the fact that this gas was once imposed by force instead of an even cheaper Turkmen gas simply by "crouching" on the pipe?