The third German frigate project F125 came to the test

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The German Navy continues to implement the program to build frigates F125. According to the portal navaltoday.com, the third of the four planned frigates first went into the open sea to sea trials.

The ship, named Sachsen-Anhalt ("Saxony-Anhalt") left the shipyard in Hamburg and along the Elbe sailed into the North Sea. Tests of the frigate will last two weeks, during which the crew of the ship, as well as representatives of the shipyard and the German Navy will assess the performance of key systems.



The third German frigate project F125 came to the test


The construction of frigates within the framework of the F125 program is behind schedule, the German fleet has not yet received a single ship of this type. The first frigate (Baden-Württemberg) the military department returned to the shipyard to eliminate the shortcomings discovered during the tests. The second (Nordrhein-Westfalen) successfully passed a series of tests and should soon be handed over the fleet. The third frigate began to pass the tests, and the fourth (Rheinland-Pfalz) was launched last May and is being completed afloat.

In size, ships of the F125 type are comparable to destroyers, but in Germany they are classified as frigates. The length of the frigates of type F125 is almost 150 m, the width is 19 m, the draft is 5 m, the total displacement reaches 7200 t. The ships of type F125 are equipped with a combined power plant of the type CODLAG combining diesel generators and electric motors. One of the features of the new ships is a long maintenance cycle. The frigate must be without maintenance at the base for two years, while performing operations of medium intensity (5000 hours per year).

The frigates must be armed with Otobreda 127 caliber mm and two 27-mm anti-aircraft guns MLG 27. In addition, the ship has launchers for various types of combat missiles and anti-submarine torpedoes. The total cost of building four ships of type F125 is estimated at € 2,2 billion, transmits "Warspot"
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  1. +3
    24 February 2018 09: 19
    in our Baltic, corvettes, etc. 20380 are better armed than these a la F125 destroyers
    1. 0
      24 February 2018 09: 35
      In Germany, the designers lost experience in designing large warships, which is why they have big problems with the lead ship of the series, which has a noticeable lateral roll.
      1. +1
        24 February 2018 10: 03
        Quote: Giant thought
        In Germany, the designers lost experience in designing large warships, which is why they have big problems with the lead ship of the series, which has tangible side roll.

        How many?
        1. +2
          24 February 2018 10: 43
          Quote: professor
          How many?

          Well, not that tangible, but it can hinder further upgrades ...
          The head frigate of the new F125 project was heavier, and therefore he had problems with balancing: due to construction errors, the ship had a constant roll of 1,3 ° to the starboard side.
        2. +2
          24 February 2018 14: 28
          Quote: professor
          How many?

          Professor! Well, ashamed to engage in a skirmish over such trifles, then !!!
          Well, if you are very interested (you never know what), then I will answer without hiding: 1,3 * on the starboard side. It is permanent and needs to be straightened constantly so that zeros and not delta PSI are broadcast in the BIOS. And this is a boring trip because of the constant consumption of variable loads (water, fuel, provisions, etc.) Yes
          Something like this, however.
          1. +2
            24 February 2018 14: 52
            Quote: BoA KAA
            Quote: professor
            How many?

            Professor! Well, ashamed to engage in a skirmish over such trifles, then !!!
            Well, if you are very interested (you never know what), then I will answer without hiding: 1,3 * on the starboard side. It is permanent and needs to be straightened constantly so that zeros and not delta PSI are broadcast in the BIOS. And this is a boring trip because of the constant consumption of variable loads (water, fuel, provisions, etc.) Yes
            Something like this, however.

            What a skirmish? I just wanted to know that in the view of the comrade "tangible side roll."
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    2. 0
      24 February 2018 09: 44
      Well, it’s not entirely clear from the article what they are armed with. “Launchers for various types of combat missiles and anti-submarine torpedoes” is information about nothing. Kakayatam BIUS, locators and others are also unknown.
      Quote: Romario_Argo
      in our Baltic, corvettes, etc. 20380 are better armed than these a la F125 destroyers
      1. +1
        24 February 2018 10: 31
        Quote: 210ox
        Well, it’s not entirely clear from the article what they are armed with.

        we look at the picture and get acquainted ...

        Quote: 210ox
        What kind of BIOS, locators and other is also unknown.

        everything is chewed up here ... http://alternathistory.com/perspektivnyi-fregat-p
        roekta-f-125-germaniya
      2. +8
        24 February 2018 13: 53
        Quote: 210ox
        from the article it’s not entirely clear what they are armed with ... What kind of BIOS, locators and others are also unknown.
        "Great trouble - I do not argue. But I’m ready to help, I’m burning ..." (c)
        Armament. AU: Nasal Oto Melara - 1x127 / 64 LW with a rate of fire of 35 / min. Interesting ammunition Wulcano. They are active-reactive and 3-x types: - BER- with D = 60km for all purposes, including. and on the CC (!); - GLR / IR with infrared seeker for firing at the MC at D = 80km; -GLR with combined GOS (inertial + GPS satellite) to work on the BC at D = 120km (!).
        In addition, 2x27mm ACs manufactured by Rehnmetall MLG-27, another 5 x12,7mm remotely controlled (TLV) Oto Melara Hitrole-NT machine guns and another 2 large-caliber thumbs for repelling pirates were installed on-board.
        Missile weapons. 2х4 launchers for anti-ship missiles Harpoon block2. But they plan to exchange them for the Swedish RCC-RN-15 missile complex Mk 4 with D = 400km, along the coast so generally up to 1000km.
        Air defense is provided by 2 installations (bow-feed) SAM Block RAM II capable of working through the NLC at D = 9,0 km.
        However, in the bow there is a reserved space for the VPU Mk41 Mod10 on the 21 missile Standart SM-2 Block IIIA or 32 missile Evolved Sea Sparrow. But do not install due to financial difficulties. And so each case for 650 million euros comes out.
        There is no PLO on the ship. But it is possible to equip helicopters (there are 2 units on board) with NH-90 RSLBs and torpedoes. Other options are possible (OGAS + TO av; magnetometer + RSAH + avto ..) Some say that it is possible in the future to install 2x3-324TA with PLO TO. But this is unlikely, because frigates were built for other tasks. They were originally intended to control the coast of third world countries, which in principle do not have submarines.
        But it would be incorrect to say that the ship does not have any means of lighting the underwater situation. There is. But this is the OGAS EITI for the detection of underwater saboteurs.
        RTV board. There is data on the radar Cassidian TRS-4D. She has 4 AFARs on the 2's "towers" (as "aircraft carrier" they called the 2 towers-pipes of the ship’s superstructure). Moreover, the 2 canvases on the front mast are looking forward, and the other 2 canvases are located on the aft “pipe”, respectively, and are looking “in the rear”. Energy D = 350km ... Noise-proof, etc. (blah blah) ...
        Between the masts (in the middle of the waist) there is room for 2's standard 40-foot sea containers. You can place anything there, even 2 of our Clab-C! But for now - equipment for the landing group (up to 80 people!).
        Outboard, in the 2 lapports, 4 high-speed inflatables with a rigid boat frame 10,1 m long and speeds up to 40 knots are hidden. These are the landing craft of the ship, surrounding the turntables, of course.
        By the way, the full-time crew --110 people. and also 10 people - camp headquarters and a reinforcement group. Due to the fact that the frigate does not need basic maintenance until the 2 years, 2 (!) Crews are provided for each hull, with the sea changing after 6 months. Which is very humane ...
        You can still talk, but this is not interesting for everyone.
        IMHO.
        1. +2
          24 February 2018 15: 53
          The opinion and story of a professional is always interesting.
  2. +4
    24 February 2018 09: 23
    The construction of frigates within the framework of the F125 program is lagging behind the schedules; the German fleet has not yet received a single ship of this type. The first frigate (Baden-Württemberg), the military department returned to the shipyard to eliminate the shortcomings discovered during the tests. The second (Nordrhein-Westfalen) successfully passed a series of tests and should soon be handed over to the fleet. The third frigate began to pass tests, and the fourth (Rheinland-Pfalz) was launched in May last year and is being completed afloat.
    and when German shipyards were famous recourse
    1. +2
      24 February 2018 09: 25
      Quote: Angel_and_Demon
      and when the German shipyards Slavilis

      I’m wondering what kind of sanctions are hindering them? I’m afraid that we would not be blamed for this ...
      1. +4
        24 February 2018 09: 44
        Quote: svp67
        I’m afraid that we would not be blamed for this ...

        so we are the worst, like that
    2. +1
      24 February 2018 12: 12
      Yes, especially at the beginning of the last century. Wonderful sailboats built ...
      Quote: Angel_and_Demon
      The construction of frigates within the framework of the F125 program is lagging behind the schedules; the German fleet has not yet received a single ship of this type. The first frigate (Baden-Württemberg), the military department returned to the shipyard to eliminate the shortcomings discovered during the tests. The second (Nordrhein-Westfalen) successfully passed a series of tests and should soon be handed over to the fleet. The third frigate began to pass tests, and the fourth (Rheinland-Pfalz) was launched in May last year and is being completed afloat.
      and when German shipyards were famous recourse
  3. +1
    24 February 2018 09: 25
    Some of them are ugly.
    The fruit of the "gloomy Teutonic genius."
  4. +2
    24 February 2018 09: 35
    Armed with Harpoons ... Friends who served in the Navy said that they shot down counterparts from anti-aircraft guns ... So this is for the Papuans ... and even then not for everyone ...
    1. +3
      24 February 2018 14: 40
      Quote: Vard
      shot down analogues (harpoons) from anti-aircraft guns ...
      Sorry, Defender of the Fatherland Day ... which does not happen! laughing
      Why? Yes, because there are no "anti-aircraft guns" in the fleet. The division is by caliber (from small to large), or by destination - universal-main. Previously - it was on artillery KRL. But then the 230 AK was farted past the ticket office, as if in white light ... Garpunov's analogues became confidently available only after adopting the Dagger (an analogue of the army Thor). And the analog of Harpoon itself appeared recently in the form of Uranus (X-35).
      So, bikes need to be carefully bitten. Yes
      1. 0
        24 February 2018 22: 39
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Why? Yes, because there are no "anti-aircraft guns" in the fleet.

        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        So, bikes need to be carefully bitten.

        Maybe some professional slang, how do you know? Now even swords and bows in computer games are called guns. For example, on the railroad they do not say “get out of the way”, but say “get out of the rut”.
        1. +1
          24 February 2018 22: 42
          Quote: Setrac
          Maybe some professional slang, how do you know?
          Just served on the fleet of 37 calendars. I've seen enough of them, I heard a lot of tales .. But this ... I DO NOT REMEMBER !!! Yes
          1. 0
            25 February 2018 00: 51
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            He simply served 37 calendars in the fleet.

            convinced
  5. +3
    24 February 2018 09: 38
    A ship named Sachsen-Anhalt ("Saxony-Anhalt").
    Is it in honor of our Empress, God's mercy, Catherine II Alekseevna the Great (née Sophia Augusta Frederika Angalt-Zerbst, German Sophie Auguste Friederike von Anhalt-Zerbst-Dornburg?

    The Germans counted deflection.
    Well licked.
    The approach to testing the new frigate G.K.Zhukov is not far off.
    Then Rokossovsky, Vasilenko, Konev.
    Well, as cruisers go into the series, you can start with I.V. Stalin.
    1. 0
      24 February 2018 12: 25
      Quote: demo
      Well, as cruisers go into the series, you can start with I.V. Stalin.

      Then "M.S. Gorbachev" will be named in honor of the German unifier.
  6. 0
    24 February 2018 09: 45
    Why is it painfully high - you will not confuse it with another ship! And for a rocket an easy target due to its high altitude. He and the storm does not even roll over?
  7. 0
    24 February 2018 09: 50
    In June 2007, the German Federal Office for Defense Technology and Purchasing (BWB) signed a contract with the ARGE F-125 consortium to build four F-125 frigates. The estimated cost of the program is 2 billion euros. New frigates will be delivered between 2016 and 2019.

    The laying of the head frigate of the Baden-Württemberg series took place on November 2, 2011 after the completion of the three-year design phase and six months after the start of steel cutting for the first section. The ship was baptized in December 2013. The delivery of the head frigate of the German Navy is scheduled for November 2016.

    F125 Fregatte "BADEN-WÜRTTEMBERG"

    12 January. 2017 city
  8. 0
    24 February 2018 10: 16
    The surface German Navy has always been underestimated ... therefore it always lost to the British ...
    1. NKT
      0
      24 February 2018 12: 08
      If Plan Z were to be implemented, then no one knows who.
  9. +3
    24 February 2018 10: 37
    These are the so-called Cold War ships. Armed worse than our corvettes, the speed with a gas turbine engine is 26 knots! A whopping -7200 T, in short, cost optimized! For maintenance and all that ... well, these ships are not for battle, but for comfortable service wassat
    1. +8
      24 February 2018 10: 46
      Any ship is made according to the order of the Navy and the challenges.

      When these ships were made, The German Navy had no opponents, only allies and partners. The main The challenge for the German Navy was humanitarian operations, lengthy patrolling in the far sea (Aden, Middle-earth, etc.), the fight against piracy and illegal immigrants.

      Actually, the ship was made for this, and done well:
      high autonomy and a large% of being at sea during the year.
      a record set of non-lethal means on board, as well as a mass of machine guns on the remote control.
      4 dumped boats, and on the go in sponsons.
      large convertible areas.
      2 heavy helicopter with a large supply of fuel on the ship.

      About current calls - fight with the Russiansthey are not very. But do not forget that they have 3 old (12-15 years) Saxony with standards. Plus, the allies, who can fit the heels of Berkov without question. Russia has no allies that will drive the heels of the destroyers, and even the AUG does not.
      1. 0
        25 February 2018 04: 39
        donavi49 As for the current challenges - to fight with the Russians, they are not very.

        Definitely, these ships are not built for the shallow Baltic, but in order to free the American for the Asia-Pacific and the British for the North Atlantic ...
    2. +1
      24 February 2018 13: 08
      Yes, the ship is a little freak, but he must hang out in the southern seas and chase after the barmales. I believe that we should also have ships of this type, so as not to waste the resource of real combat frigates and destroyers. The ship should have a displacement of about 6-8 thousand tons with a hangar for a helicopter and a landing pad and a boat to catch up with pirates. The case must be strong, salable, stealth is not needed, expensive alloys too, perhaps a little booked on the waterline. so it’s not like with an American destroyer. The armament is 6-30 mm AK-630, possibly one or two 130-152 mm guns in the turret to shell the shore and participate in the landing operation, like a support and landing ship using a helicopter and boats. But since we have a shortage of warships, then such a project, it was necessary either to build earlier or now later. We are building patrol ships of project 22160 with similar tasks, but it seems to me that they are too fancy, expensive and have a small displacement.
  10. +1
    24 February 2018 13: 05
    The Germans are beginning to revive the Reich, while the Americans are battling with us, I paint over the results of the war, and the Germans have a tooth on the offenders. The Poles are barking their faces at us, and their asses toward the Germans, so they will put them in. The only question is time.