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Su-57, Su-35С and А-50У aircraft were transferred to Khmeimim base

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According to Middle Eastern sources, on Wednesday at the Russian base Khmeimim in Syria arrived from the airfield of Privolzhsky four Su-35С fighter aircraft of the Russian Air Force, being the leader of Tu-154M passenger aircraft (registration RA-85155), reports bmpd.




In addition, on the same day, the A-50U radar patrol and guidance aircraft (the 47 red board number) and four more Su-25 attack aircraft arrived from Russia on Hmeymim.

Also, sources recorded the arrival of two fifth-generation Su-57 fighters in Syria.

Su-57, Su-35С and А-50У aircraft were transferred to Khmeimim base


In total, the 2010 flight prototypes of the T-2017 fighter (Su-10) were built from 50 to 57 year, including three in the 2017 year: T-50-9 (first flight of 24 April 2017), T-50 -11 (August 6) and T-50-10 (December 23).



The resource recalls that the A-50U (the tail number "47 Red") was bred with Christ on the rotation in December of the 2017. According to local portals, with its new arrival, Russia now has two A-50U planes in Syria.
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  1. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 22 February 2018 08: 15
    +8
    then we need steel in this place!
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 22 February 2018 08: 18
      +17
      The air group hike again increasing.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 22 February 2018 08: 22
        +33
        Also, sources recorded the arrival of two fifth-generation Su-57 fighters in Syria.

        Either something serious is planned in the confrontation with the USA, or at the expense of these fighters - an ordinary fake!
        1. Solomon Kane
          Solomon Kane 22 February 2018 08: 32
          +31
          Yes, the second A-50U, already a "bell" ..... not everything is so "clear in the sky over Damascus"
          1. figwam
            figwam 22 February 2018 09: 21
            +24
            The otter is being prepared for mattresses, for one and new weapons it is possible to test.
          2. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 22 February 2018 09: 34
            +5
            And how many A-50 do we have? Sam saw a couple in early February in Talagi, the civilian airport of Arkhangelsk ....
            recourse
            1. figwam
              figwam 22 February 2018 10: 49
              +3
              stalkerwalker

              There are 25 pieces, but how many flying is not known.
              1. albert
                albert 22 February 2018 22: 33
                0
                Quote: figvam
                There are 25 pieces, but how many flying is not known.

                According to NATO data, 28 aircraft.
          3. Lelek
            Lelek 22 February 2018 10: 09
            +14
            Quote: Solomon Kane
            Yes, the second A-50U, already a "bell" ..... not everything is so "clear in the sky over Damascus"

            hi
            And at the same time to test the T-50 in a combat situation.
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 22 February 2018 10: 19
              +4
              Quote: Lelek
              Quote: Solomon Kane
              Yes, the second A-50U, already a "bell" ..... not everything is so "clear in the sky over Damascus"

              hi
              And at the same time to test the T-50 in a combat situation.

              He is no longer the T-50 ....
              1. Lelek
                Lelek 22 February 2018 10: 33
                +2
                Quote: RUSS
                He is no longer the T-50.

                hi
                Of course, the SU-57. He called it so in a post as if for brevity. request
            2. 1vlad19
              1vlad19 22 February 2018 11: 47
              +13
              Quote: Lelek
              in combat

              I’m not a flight crew, I’m from the “sailors”, the cars are beautiful, and the pride that they are made in our Far East (KnAAZ).
              1. Signalman17
                Signalman17 23 February 2018 01: 18
                +1
                Well done! Actually, they’re doing it at KNAAPO, also to me the Far East ...
                1. 1vlad19
                  1vlad19 23 February 2018 13: 26
                  +1
                  Quote: Signalman17
                  KNAAPO

                  Wow, "Far Easterners" appeared? KnAAZ, former KNAAPO, Tell me how you changed the "name" or you guess it.
              2. Lelek
                Lelek 23 February 2018 01: 25
                0
                Quote: 1vlad19
                I'm not a flight crew, I'm from the "sailors"

                hi
                It means a colleague. I also k2r, really used. drinks
          4. RASKAT
            RASKAT 22 February 2018 12: 28
            +8
            They cover the direction from Deir Es Zora, the other day a minimum of the Buk SAA air defense system battery was sent to this area. Something tells me Su-57 is not all the surprises that await us in Syria. As if the S-300 / 400 air defense system, additional units had not arrived from Russia to strengthen the grouping and cover some areas. And then the latest antics of the USA and Israel make us think a bit whether the guys have lost their fear. It's time to bring them a little to the senses.
          5. vargo
            vargo 22 February 2018 13: 48
            +12
            I think it’s easier, corny grouping for the SU-57 tests. That is, the plane is new. And you need an eye for him and an eye. That's why such an escort. He will carry out the task where a personal A-50U previously works in order to monitor the situation on the ground. Then the plane itself and its escort, security. God forbid that now get into the territory of the enemy in any condition. Here is the security. Well, plus to everything, I think they plan to work in the link during the test of communication channels. Well and yes, I also think that there will be attempts to try to play with enemy radars!
          6. Orionvit
            Orionvit 22 February 2018 13: 48
            +3
            Quote: Solomon Kane
            not so everything is "clear in the sky over Damascus"

            However, some are already shedding tears that everything is lost. That this is the last "chance" of the Kremlin. lol The structure works, and it pleases.
        2. Falcond
          Falcond 22 February 2018 08: 40
          +34
          Yes, someone will oppose the United States with two planes ??? They will be tested in a real combat situation ... this is useful ...
          1. shans2
            shans2 22 February 2018 10: 39
            +11
            like how, 2 su -57 aircraft - this is 8 simultaneously shot down F-35 or F-22))
            1. Falcond
              Falcond 22 February 2018 15: 04
              +2
              How did you calculate this ??
        3. 3officer
          3officer 22 February 2018 08: 41
          +61
          Quote: SRC P-15
          Also, sources recorded the arrival of two fifth-generation Su-57 fighters in Syria.

          Either something serious is planned in the confrontation with the USA, or at the expense of these fighters - an ordinary fake!

          What kind of confrontation are we talking about? Without will and determination, there is at least an air army, at least C400 divisions are just a beautiful picture. Seriously, it will be possible to speak of a confrontation only when the “transfer” of billions and children of the “elite” from the deep rear of the enemy is carried out.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 22 February 2018 08: 47
            +11
            Quote: 3officer
            What kind of confrontation are we talking about?

            Do you not think that the death of our Wagnerites in Syria will just get away with the mattresses?
            1. 3officer
              3officer 22 February 2018 09: 06
              +49
              Quote: SRC P-15

              Do you not think that the death of our Wagnerites in Syria will just get away with the mattresses?

              I think that will come down .. unfortunately. If we hadn’t gotten a fuss in the media, we wouldn’t have known about it at all. How many of these “red lines and Rubicons” have been crossed, I well remember the “EW bubble over Syria and Nobody will dare!” Three years ago I have no doubt at all about our military capabilities, but they will remain a gun that hangs in the first act and will not fire in the second.
              1. Falcond
                Falcond 22 February 2018 10: 28
                +4
                It won’t come down, don’t doubt ... it’s just called a murder out of revenge, but they don’t tell about it ... in 50 years we’ll find out!
              2. Scoun
                Scoun 22 February 2018 11: 27
                +7
                Quote: 3officer
                If it were not for the uproar in the media, we would not have known about it at all.

                1. Now remember for a moment - whose media shouted the most?
                2. We are there by invitation in the fight against terrorists.
                3. The striped “fighter” with terror did not strike at the fighters against terror by mistake but protecting its terrorists.
                This is followed by an answer, but according to the rules of etiquette.
              3. vasya.pupkin
                vasya.pupkin 22 February 2018 11: 27
                +7
                Quote: 3officer
                Quote: SRC P-15

                Do you not think that the death of our Wagnerites in Syria will just get away with the mattresses?

                I think that will come down .. unfortunately. If we hadn’t gotten a fuss in the media, we wouldn’t have known about it at all. How many of these “red lines and Rubicons” have been crossed, I well remember the “EW bubble over Syria and Nobody will dare!” Three years ago I have no doubt at all about our military capabilities, but they will remain a gun that hangs in the first act and will not fire in the second.

                Media is the second or even third stage. If the Donbass guys from PMC didn’t call Strelok / degree of trust! /, And he didn’t show cowardice, but took the “fire” on himself from the huge Surkov army of fakeomets and heroic couch fighters, we only had to read nonsense from foreign media. But somehow everyone has already forgotten about it.
            2. Deck
              Deck 22 February 2018 09: 06
              +20
              Of course we think! What are the Wagnerites ?!

              Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said that reports of the deaths of hundreds of Russian citizens in Syria in a military clash with the forces of the international coalition led by the United States are "misinformation." As Zakharova said at a briefing in Moscow on Thursday, as a result of the battle in the province of Deir ez-Zor, "five people presumably Russian citizens" could die on February 7. She emphasized that we are not talking about Russian military personnel, and that information about their citizenship and what they did in Syria still needs to be checked.
              1. figwam
                figwam 22 February 2018 09: 23
                +7
                Deck

                Do you believe the same thing in American propaganda?
                1. Deck
                  Deck 22 February 2018 21: 05
                  +2
                  Do you believe the same thing in American propaganda?

                  I believe in Zakharova from the Foreign Ministry. wink I don’t know what she believes in.
              2. vasya.pupkin
                vasya.pupkin 22 February 2018 11: 30
                +5
                For Decca: Madame Zakharova does not consider the children of the Russian Federation-Donbass to be a loss, because LDNR “God” does not want to recognize.
                1. bk316
                  bk316 22 February 2018 11: 45
                  +5
                  Madame Zakharova does not consider the losses of the Russian Federation-Donbass guys

                  Well, it’s rightly believes that when you become part of the Russian Federation then everything will change
                  1. Stas157
                    Stas157 22 February 2018 16: 10
                    +4
                    Quote: bk316
                    Well, it’s rightly believes that when you become part of the Russian Federation then everything will change

                    You say so, as if in the Donbass did not want it! They would become, so Putin does not want. He said that there is no alternative to the Minsk agreements. So Russian people suffer in vain.
                    1. Foxmara
                      Foxmara 23 February 2018 18: 07
                      0
                      Not Putin invented all this. It's not up to you to get out. But the war with Europe and NATO is definitely not something that will help all Russian people, including those in the Donbas.
                      If support in the Crimea was decisive, then in Donbas, God forbid, half.
                      It is clear that you want everyone to come to solve all your problems, and we would like, but we need to understand the military and economic alignment. By the power of not even the USSR, and confronts it more at times. War will be the end of all that we have, the end of the world.
                      And if you really want to go to Russia, then perhaps you need to be patient and fight. When the USSR collapsed-you did not hold a referendum for access to Russia. Georgia requested 400 years of membership in Russia and their situation was much worse, no one covered them, either politically, economically, or by military means. You have it all.
            3. mac789
              mac789 22 February 2018 10: 07
              +4
              Of course it will. You can be sure.
            4. Lelek
              Lelek 22 February 2018 10: 16
              +6
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              SRC P-15

              hi
              IMHO, I think that will not work. But blah blah will not be about it and will do it right. Serious operations do not like fuss and noise. We will wait, see, hear, discuss. yes
          2. cats
            cats 22 February 2018 08: 56
            +16
            When you take care of your wife, also grind your teeth about milliards and elite kids?
            1. 3officer
              3officer 22 February 2018 09: 17
              +22
              Quote: Kotovsky
              When you take care of your wife, also grind your teeth about milliards and elite kids?

              No, I’m not boiling. But the desire arises when simultaneously killed people and destroyed houses in the Donbass and at the same time negotiations with “partner” Peter Alekseevich, coffins from Syria and kissing with Western partners and investors in the Gaidar and Davos forums, the heroism of the military and the Instagram half-animal life of these same "kids".
              1. Monos
                Monos 22 February 2018 10: 56
                +29
                Quote: 3officer
                coffins from Syria and climbing with western partners

                You yourself loaded these coffins? Buried? You sit in your cozy little armchair, pee in the nets, work as a “hired guy” for hire, speculate in deaths and eat your “thirty pieces of silver”. That’s your whole worthless life. smile What are you, after all, miserable. You can’t wash your hands with people like you all day.
                1. 3officer
                  3officer 22 February 2018 15: 30
                  +2
                  Quote: Monos
                  You sit in your cozy little armchair, pee in the nets, work as a “hired guy” for hire, speculate in deaths and eat your “thirty pieces of silver”. That’s your whole worthless life. smile .

                  And it raced and raced .. I admit all your accusations, everything is absolutely true.
                  1. Spnsr
                    Spnsr 22 February 2018 19: 26
                    +4
                    Quote: 3officer
                    Quote: Monos
                    You sit in your cozy little armchair, pee in the nets, work as a “hired guy” for hire, speculate in deaths and eat your “thirty pieces of silver”. That’s your whole worthless life. smile .

                    And it raced and raced .. I admit all your accusations, everything is absolutely true.

                    Does anyone have specific data on what happened in Syria?
                    And then, then the question arises, why should I believe InoSMI, but not believe Zakharova?
                    So, the military doesn’t move as much as they offer us, and in order to destroy 200 people, they still need to be found on the march, and this depth and front are completely different! Or they, like the Hollywood Rangers, scored all 200 and, according to other sources, 900 into one car, and sat waiting for them to be taken. And if the Wagner’s regiment is manned, then out of 200 killed, two companies, six platoons, these are 6 air defense units, if this is not, then this is Wagner’s canton, which means that it doesn’t need (the leadership of this) means either it’s fake or someone must be held responsible for the fact that he did not provide his employees with security, that is, an agreement with those who could support him, so someone sincerely believed that they were taking the place, and they were stabbed bluntly in the back!
                2. Opera
                  Opera 22 February 2018 16: 14
                  +3
                  Monos, let him write more! These are not speculators. This is a conscious and thank God for the most part bad agents of our Western partners! Recently, they already lit up on the most do not indulge! Such a bacchanalia always leads to natural consequences! Not always clear but definitely sad for lovers of dancing on the bones!
          3. cariperpaint
            cariperpaint 22 February 2018 09: 16
            +6
            what does the will and determination have to do with it ... there is such a chess now that any wrong move will turn into that ... there everything should be on cat's feet, why should 57 be dragged if it is true at all? No point ...
            1. silver_roman
              silver_roman 22 February 2018 11: 06
              +12
              Quote: cariperpaint
              why 57 then dragged if true at all? no point in that ..

              you are very mistaken.
              Do you really think that they will actively fight there? everything is done purely for break-in in combat use. But military use does not imply active hostilities. See how the machine will behave in intensive operating conditions, check all systems. This is an invaluable experience, extremely important. In general, it is difficult to overestimate. After that, on the basis of the results obtained, some changes will be made to the design if defects or jambs are identified. And already in the combat units will go cars according to proven schemes, verified by rather stringent conditions.
          4. Falcond
            Falcond 22 February 2018 10: 29
            0
            How do these "kids" help us ??
            1. Scoun
              Scoun 22 February 2018 16: 42
              +4
              Quote: FalconD
              How do these "kids" help us ??

              Uti ways ... and they that alone?
              Air defense, navy and all (almost) Russia with them. I'm straight Meehan.
              We have it officially for two years.
              - I call fire on myself.
              - Work Brothers.
              - This is for you Boys!

              The USA have been fighting for 20 years, aren't their Hollywood odes ?.
          5. Baby sitter
            Baby sitter 22 February 2018 11: 13
            0
            Somewhere I already heard it ....
          6. Bosch
            Bosch 23 February 2018 16: 56
            +1
            These kids are foreign nationals. Their transfer can only be abroad.
            1. 3officer
              3officer 23 February 2018 17: 14
              0
              Quote: Bosch
              These kids are foreign nationals.

              It’s not so important what kind of passport they have. I just have little idea of ​​the situation of a serious confrontation with anyone, provided that they actually have whole “children's” communities of the ruling class held hostage request This was widely practiced only in the Middle Ages with the offspring of vassals, to guarantee loyalty.
        4. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 22 February 2018 09: 02
          +8
          Quote: СРЦ П-15

          Either something serious is planned in the confrontation with the USA, or at the expense of these fighters - an ordinary fake!

          I want to believe that this is not a fake. SU-57 must be tested in combat conditions. And to show everyone what he is capable of. Well hotts me so it was.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 22 February 2018 10: 47
            +2
            Yeah ... that's exactly what
            And show everyone

            Let him remove his radar signature, let the radiation from the radar and electronic warfare systems be recorded.
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 22 February 2018 12: 38
              +4
              Quote: alexmach

              Let him remove his radar signature, let the radiation from the radar and electronic warfare systems be recorded.

              Well, hide him in the cellar, so that, God forbid, no one sees.
          2. Scoun
            Scoun 22 February 2018 11: 31
            0
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            I want to believe that this is not a fake. SU-57 must be tested in combat conditions. And to show everyone what he is capable of. Well hotts me so it was.

            A couple of Su-34s were used in 2008 overtaking from Lipetsk, and there is a need to see here.
            Ps.
            After 2008, the Su-34 quickly went into the series.
        5. HMR333
          HMR333 22 February 2018 09: 18
          +9
          what serious would you even think before you write! the usual running-in of new equipment to identify its shortcomings and eliminate the latter! test su57 under the guise of su35s under the supervision of a50u!
          1. figwam
            figwam 22 February 2018 09: 26
            +5
            HMR333

            Yeah, Su-57 and A-50 against barmaley with machine guns.
            1. Evil543
              Evil543 22 February 2018 10: 34
              +3
              Quote: figvam
              HMR333

              Yeah, Su-57 and A-50 against barmaley with machine guns.

              Or maybe against the B-52? request
            2. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 22 February 2018 10: 49
              0
              Quote: figvam
              Yeah, Su-57 and A-50 against barmaley with machine guns.

              Yeah ... everything is like on the first raptor sorties - in the same regions, against the same enemy. smile
          2. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 25 February 2018 08: 42
            0
            Quote: HMR333
            what serious would you even think before you write! the usual running-in of new equipment to identify its shortcomings and eliminate the latter! test su57 under the guise of su35s under the supervision of a50u!

            Well yes. For the "usual break-in of new technology to identify its shortcomings", of course, Russia does not have enough open spaces. And if under cover of the 35s and 50s, then there’s nowhere to turn around.
            Most likely this is a warning to "colleagues"
        6. Ascetic
          Ascetic 22 February 2018 09: 38
          +8
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Either something serious is planned in the confrontation with the USA, or at the expense of these fighters - an ordinary fake!


          in the confrontation with the United States and Israel at the same time, otherwise there is no special need for fifth-generation aircraft.
        7. Piramidon
          Piramidon 22 February 2018 10: 02
          +6
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Either something serious is planned in the confrontation with the USA, or at the expense of these fighters - an ordinary fake!

          They just decided to continue testing in combat conditions. It is ridiculous to say that they were driven as reinforcements to combat mattresses. lol
        8. Buffet
          Buffet 22 February 2018 10: 04
          0
          I would like to hear comments from our MO. Until then, I perceive it as a fake. And then they said to VO that supposedly they again changed the commander of the group of troops in Syria ...
        9. alexmach
          alexmach 22 February 2018 10: 26
          +2
          Yes, what else is Su-57 then? he has not yet been accepted into service, not a single serial has been released, there are some flight models. Unless it was sent for testing, it can only be dangerous to test it on a real theater, besides why should it be shown to its "partners". It seems to me that fake.
          1. loginovich
            loginovich 22 February 2018 11: 08
            0
            And there is no aircraft with declared performance characteristics because there is no engine.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 22 February 2018 11: 34
              +5
              It seems to me that the engine is such, firstly, the aircraft does not consist of one engine - other systems must also be tested, there is an engine of the first stage and, in my opinion, for Syria, with its distances it should be enough.

              Another thing is whether the SU-57 is ripe for testing in combat conditions and what exactly they want to test it. Well, let's say "a large giraffe - he knows better."
          2. Eragon
            Eragon 22 February 2018 14: 38
            +1
            Quote: alexmach
            Yes, what else is Su-57 then? he has not yet been accepted into service, not a single serial has been released, there are some flight models.

            What is the difference between a flight sample of a combat aircraft and a combat aircraft? And how close is the sample to serial? It may turn out that according to the results of the Syrian tests, the last sample will be the first production.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 22 February 2018 22: 55
              +1
              Will the latter become serial? But is it not the last one, or did some of them rumble for the installation of the second stage engine?

              How is it different? yes anything. It depends on what was built there as a flight model. In general, anything, even a glider. The composition of the BRONO is so easy. Although the Americans recently decided to bring the F-22 flight models to the production configuration and transfer them to the Air Force.
        10. Sedoy
          Sedoy 22 February 2018 12: 06
          0
          if not a fake, then most likely testing something ...
          hardly for a full-fledged combat use ..
        11. aKtoR
          aKtoR 22 February 2018 13: 47
          +1
          Must be fake
        12. Red_Hamer
          Red_Hamer 22 February 2018 14: 06
          +1
          Either something serious is planned in the confrontation with the USA, or at the expense of these fighters - an ordinary fake!
          No, not a fake!
        13. seal78
          seal78 22 February 2018 16: 52
          0
          Why not allow just the thought of running-in and testing in real conditions? Why immediately assume "something serious"?
      2. siberalt
        siberalt 22 February 2018 08: 25
        +9
        Taki, tomorrow February 23! We will wait for the good news, and all with the upcoming holiday! soldier
      3. Evil543
        Evil543 22 February 2018 08: 32
        +1
        Campaign this "ju" is not casual
      4. Sevastiec
        Sevastiec 22 February 2018 13: 14
        0
        Moreover, not assault and bomber, but to gain superiority in the air, mind you. Encourages reflection.
    2. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 22 February 2018 08: 25
      +2
      Maybe it’s all so, but again these unnamed Middle Eastern sources ....
      1. Evil543
        Evil543 22 February 2018 08: 34
        +6
        Unlike dill, they do not have batteries on their phones
        Quote: Hagalaz
        Maybe it’s all so, but again these unnamed Middle Eastern sources ....
    3. Maz
      Maz 22 February 2018 08: 51
      +9
      Everything is right - the first step is to strengthen air defense. May the Israelites go wild. They will be on hand. Well, if they climbed, then we didn’t start it. Do not complain to the owners in the USA.
      1. Dangerous
        Dangerous 22 February 2018 09: 14
        +8
        What does Israel have to do with it? Just with Israel, everything is in order, there was not a single incident, although ours repeatedly flew into its airspace
        1. seal78
          seal78 22 February 2018 17: 00
          +1
          Well, it would not be "all right." Even if they flew (which I personally doubt). Jews are anyone but idiots to try to shoot down Russian planes.
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 22 February 2018 09: 33
        +7
        Quote: Maz
        Everything is right - the first step is to strengthen air defense. May the Israelites go wild. They will be on hand. Well, if they climbed, then we didn’t start it. Do not complain to the owners in the USA.

        Maz, I imagine how hard it is for you. To live in Israel and be afraid that the people around you will learn about how you hate them. Here really from fear and unspoken feelings you can go head first. laughing
        1. prapor75m
          prapor75m 22 February 2018 09: 57
          +12
          and I am watching you and your Israeli "warring" friends laughing on VO, already enrages up to a shake the statements of the participant under the nickname Maz, that he does not support the Israeli lobby, entrenched on the site and expresses his opinion
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 22 February 2018 12: 03
            +2
            Quote: prapor75m
            and I am watching you and your Israeli "warring" friends laughing on VO, already enrages up to a shake the statements of the participant under the nickname Maz, that he does not support the Israeli lobby, entrenched on the site and expresses his opinion

            He is simply ridiculous in his hatred of the country in which he lives, especially since no one keeps him here. laughing
            1. prapor75m
              prapor75m 22 February 2018 12: 51
              +7
              work promptly, I already have my first warning, ah ah ah like an adult laughing when normal adequate Russian moderators on VO appear !!!
        2. Evil543
          Evil543 22 February 2018 10: 28
          +2
          And if they figure it out, what will happen? Tear to the flags?
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: Maz
          Everything is right - the first step is to strengthen air defense. May the Israelites go wild. They will be on hand. Well, if they climbed, then we didn’t start it. Do not complain to the owners in the USA.

          Maz, I imagine how hard it is for you. To live in Israel and be afraid that the people around you will learn about how you hate them. Here really from fear and unspoken feelings you can go head first. laughing
          1. Professor
            Professor 22 February 2018 10: 34
            +3
            Quote: Evil543
            And if they figure it out, what will happen? Tear to the flags?

            They will stop paying the allowance for which he lives happily ever after. fellow
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 22 February 2018 10: 54
              +8
              Quote: Professor
              They will stop paying the allowance for which he lives happily ever after.

              Vooot. smile And when the state’s critics are deprived of budgetary money from us, the howling about the clampdown on freedom of speech, political persecution and almost the new 1937 begins immediately.
              1. Evil543
                Evil543 22 February 2018 10: 56
                +4
                Yes ... but with us they both shouted and shouted ... But they say that we have despotism and tyranny repeat
                1. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 22 February 2018 11: 23
                  +5
                  Serebryakov, for example. He starred in films financed by the state, he was not paid sickly for this, he lives in Canada for this money (mine, among others), and he even craps not the authorities, but the people. I remember two years ago for Serebryakova in the cabin was. It is interesting to read now the colleagues who then stole for him.
                  1. Korax71
                    Korax71 22 February 2018 13: 31
                    +2
                    It seems that you just gave them to him. The man earned them and how to dispose of them to solve it. Do you think you can do better than him ???? I will gladly see a load of 200 with you in the title role.
                    1. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 24 February 2018 23: 46
                      +4
                      Does he work at the factory or on the collective farm? Is he producing something? No. They receive state money for their projects, mostly disastrous. This money is made up of taxes, including mine. And you probably work in the gray zone of the economy, do not pay taxes? He would have shot for private money - yes, the flag in his hands. And that’s called ..... the letter b. You get a lot of money and insult those whose money it is. Put your dumb humor to yourself ... And for a load of 200, it’s better to be silver in the main roles, in Russia there will be fewer hangers-on who feeds from her hands and spits in them. Lavrov did not speak out about you by chance? fool tongue
            2. Eragon
              Eragon 22 February 2018 14: 44
              +1
              Quote: Professor
              They will stop paying the allowance for which he lives happily ever after.

              No need to cheat. You do not have such benefits. There is a benefit for which you can survive the first time, but which then needs to be paid. How do I know? The son left for Israel a year ago. It doesn’t work well.
              1. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 22 February 2018 16: 38
                +1
                Quote: Eragon
                Quote: Professor
                They will stop paying the allowance for which he lives happily ever after.

                No need to cheat. You do not have such benefits. There is a benefit for which you can survive the first time, but which then needs to be paid. How do I know? The son left for Israel a year ago. It doesn’t work well.

                And what does he have to pay? The absorption basket is not returned.
              2. Professor
                Professor 23 February 2018 17: 15
                +2
                Quote: Eragon
                Quote: Professor
                They will stop paying the allowance for which he lives happily ever after.

                No need to cheat. You do not have such benefits. There is a benefit for which you can survive the first time, but which then needs to be paid. How do I know? The son left for Israel a year ago. It doesn’t work well.

                The son of retirement age? Not? So let it go.
            3. Varna
              Varna 22 February 2018 22: 38
              0
              Quote: Professor
              Quote: Evil543
              And if they figure it out, what will happen? Tear to the flags?

              They will stop paying the allowance for which he lives happily ever after. fellow

              What, it is envious that there was someone who eats your bread and poops in your face? laughing
              Why is it that you, the infallible, are quite familiar with this situation - eating Russian bread and pooping Russians in the face - what do you dislike now?
    4. Evgeny Strygin
      Evgeny Strygin 22 February 2018 15: 09
      0
      what for? With non-rolled weapons and essentially just prototypes needed there? Once again, something will fly to the base once again it is known how to wash if they suffer.
  2. Irokez
    Irokez 22 February 2018 08: 17
    +4
    Is it too early. And the SU-35 is still enough. Raw and not adopted with possible childhood illnesses.
    Purely psychologically for the enemies probably. It is necessary to protect as the apple of an eye, accompanied by other fighters.
    1. insular
      insular 22 February 2018 08: 29
      +8
      Quote: Irokez
      Raw and not adopted with possible childhood illnesses.

      Test site, advertising to Indians ... Image in general.
      1. Irokez
        Irokez 22 February 2018 09: 20
        +1
        Quote: insular
        Test site, advertising to Indians ... Image in general.

        Advertising and image is certainly good, but the coalition neighbors will vigilantly observe him and take off parameters if possible. And if God forbid it falls, then, in general, the wreckage should be picked up if possible.
        A dangerous undertaking. And almost all the electronics and avionics on the SU-35 are there, everything needs to be tested and worked out from it.
        1. silver_roman
          silver_roman 22 February 2018 11: 14
          +5
          no matter how we send a timid young lady there, but a healthy fighter with a huge club and we need to teach him to use this club to wave, go away from blows and see from the back! So that’s all right.
          Fall so fall ... God forbid pah pah pah .... but there are special forces that can hide this whole thing ....
          What if the war is tomorrow? as the saying goes: "an attack always occurs unexpectedly." When then run in kids? here let them train. And signatures and EPR all the same, sooner or later fall into the clutches of the CIA or other KOs.
          It seems to me that sometimes people do not fully catch up with what is happening in Syria. Or do you think our contingent is sitting idly on two bases, without intelligence on all fronts?
        2. seal78
          seal78 22 February 2018 17: 30
          0
          No matter how foolish they are in Moscow, probably?
      2. kirgiz58
        kirgiz58 22 February 2018 09: 37
        0
        Quote: insular
        Image as a whole.

        Image is nothing, thirst is everything (s)! If the 35th fell on the “lizard” unexpectedly for the latter, then it will be interesting to see the T50, and for this they drove (check), and not arrange “Stalingrad” for them.
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          1. kirgiz58
            kirgiz58 22 February 2018 16: 28
            0
            Quote: Korax71
            Drying fell on the lizards in the wet dreams of our mo

            Well, in that case, the atas - the “lizard” was afraid of the menacing look of the “rook” and leaked at supersonic. laughing laughing The Rooks pecked at the worms and flew home. good
    2. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 22 February 2018 08: 35
      +4
      Together with them, another 4 Su-35s and 4 Su-25s, as well as the .A-50 flew in. But still, if Khmeimim showed himself to be a weak spot, then such a step is very risky. Enemies from this are not particularly hot or cold, but there will be tricks and there is no need to go to the fortuneteller.
      Our rear areas are very divorced from this place of basing. Everything is very unreliable!
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 22 February 2018 09: 30
        +3
        They told us what they saw. And they didn’t tell what they didn’t see. Keep in mind. hi
      2. silver_roman
        silver_roman 22 February 2018 11: 16
        +2
        Quote: Evgeniy667b
        if Khmeimim proved to be a weak spot

        after that not-so-pleasant incident, the radius of defense of the base was greatly expanded. I think now it will not be so easy to approach, unless some RZSO to use or even the KR. It seems to me that the barmalei will soon simply “find” somewhere in the Middle East a purely drifting empty Arly Burke with full ammunition ... they will shave their faces and turn BACK into John.
    3. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 22 February 2018 08: 42
      +3
      Quote: Irokez
      It is necessary to protect as the apple of an eye, accompanied by other fighters.

      aha belay ... and it's better not to fly at all fool
      1. Dangerous
        Dangerous 22 February 2018 09: 16
        +2
        It’s one thing when an old junk in the form of a Su-24, Su-25 is brought down, and another if they knock down anonymous T-50. So everything is correct, maximum security measures are needed
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 22 February 2018 09: 32
          +5
          If they destroy Su-57, it means there is a weak spot. If it is, it’s better to know and eliminate it now. And no other way. hi
          1. Dangerous
            Dangerous 22 February 2018 09: 51
            +2
            Too high a price for a "weak spot", don’t you? F-22 hasn’t hit anything yet, although they are not without weaknesses
            1. silver_roman
              silver_roman 22 February 2018 11: 27
              +2
              you say so, as if already su-57 shot down.
              That and the price is not high. if we can not pull, then the point is to buy?
              one must be prepared for possible losses.
              1. Dangerous
                Dangerous 22 February 2018 11: 52
                +2
                it’s not about the price of the aircraft, but about its uniqueness and self-propelledness. If we say that this is the best aircraft, then at least there should be no loss for several years
                1. silver_roman
                  silver_roman 22 February 2018 12: 59
                  +1
                  I agree. But you need to bring it to mind. And a better way than operation in an approach close to a combat situation is not to come up.
                2. bk316
                  bk316 22 February 2018 15: 49
                  +2
                  If we say that this is the best aircraft, then at least there should be no loss for several years

                  So, if he won’t fight, after a few years without loss, say, “Yes, he’s been flying all this time in take-off and landing mode, so they didn’t bring down”
            2. Winnie76
              Winnie76 22 February 2018 11: 36
              +1
              Quote: Dangerous
              F-22 hasn’t hit anything yet, although they are not without weaknesses

              F 22 did not participate anywhere. He doesn’t particularly work on the ground, and secrecy about stealth.
          2. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 22 February 2018 10: 24
            +1
            Quote: Alex777
            If they destroy Su-57, it means there is a weak spot. If it is, it’s better to know and eliminate it now. And no other way.

            I agree. And where can I find out if not in the war? So that it doesn’t work out, as with the Turkish “superleopards” ...
            1. Dangerous
              Dangerous 22 February 2018 11: 55
              0
              Good question. Then what about the submarine? After all, no one has been drowning them since the Second World War. " So that it doesn’t work out, as with the Turkish “superleopards” ..."
              1. BARKHAN
                BARKHAN 22 February 2018 12: 00
                +3
                Quote: Dangerous
                Good question. Then what about the submarine? After all, no one has been drowning them since the Second World War. " So that it doesn’t work out, as with the Turkish “superleopards” ..."

                Well, poplars with yars in addition? UAL and so every exit is combat. You do not need to pile everything.
              2. bk316
                bk316 22 February 2018 15: 50
                +2
                Then what about the submarine? After all, no one has been drowning them since the Second World War.

                And what were the nuclear submarines in the Great Patriotic War and drowned? wassat
    4. forester
      forester 22 February 2018 08: 42
      +5
      Quote: Irokez
      Is it too early. And the SU-35 is still enough. Raw and not adopted with possible childhood illnesses.
      Purely psychologically for the enemies probably. It is necessary to protect as the apple of an eye, accompanied by other fighters.

      If this is not a fake, then just to identify "childhood diseases" and other possible shortcomings in combat conditions, the SU-57 was sent there.
    5. Pathos
      Pathos 22 February 2018 11: 51
      0
      Well MiG 25 identity at one time drove although it was raw and Nitsche shot all of Israel hi
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    1. Solomon Kane
      Solomon Kane 22 February 2018 08: 28
      +5
      It seems that in the light of recent events, the group will be strengthened by MiGs -31 we, and later by 35
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 22 February 2018 09: 30
        +3
        Quote: Solomon Kane
        It seems that in the light of recent events

        It's sarcasm??
        MiG-31 BM, a high-altitude fighter-interceptor ... The main task is to intercept strategists, cr missiles and high-altitude scouts ... Why is he in Syria ?? what
        1. Sergey Ui
          Sergey Ui 22 February 2018 09: 39
          +2
          B-52 shoot down if that
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 22 February 2018 11: 17
            +2
            This cuttlefish and C-400 yawning knocked down ... he also glows on the radar like a Christmas tree ...
          2. Korax71
            Korax71 22 February 2018 13: 43
            0
            Only before shooting down, it is necessary to tartus and hmeimim immediately trace with chalk.
            1. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 22 February 2018 20: 38
              0
              Quote: Korax71
              trace immediately.

              yeah ... as a territory, from where an even greater answer can fly !! wink yes soldier soldier soldier
        2. Solomon Kane
          Solomon Kane 22 February 2018 13: 13
          +4
          But is there any guarantee not to use the US KR and B-2? There is no confidence in the "Israeli partners", which decide their geopolitical interests. And not the fact that the Israeli armed forces will not participate in the "resolution of the situation" when their older striped brother will press Assad and our bases .....
          1. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn 22 February 2018 16: 58
            +4
            The scale is too small for the MiG-31 ... Until it takes off, the tomahawks will fly by, and the B-2 will be washed off ... SAM and Su-35, this is just the time good
            MiG-31BM, this is a song, he needs room ... And BV, with small terra-mi, not for him ... If, only over "all" to fly ... Air defense, unnerve .. wink
            1. Solomon Kane
              Solomon Kane 22 February 2018 17: 48
              +3
              For our "friends of Israel", it is thought that they are the 25th MIGs that have been remembered since 1967.
              1. LiSiCyn
                LiSiCyn 22 February 2018 18: 14
                +3
                You think to test Jewish anti-aircraft defense ...
                Catching up on Tel Aviv .. wink
                At the same time, and the "patriots" with the iron "kumPol", let’s omit ... good
  4. Vyacheslav73
    Vyacheslav73 22 February 2018 08: 18
    +5
    It’s time to try the novelty in combat conditions, otherwise we’ve already been waiting ... hi
  5. Shadow shooter
    Shadow shooter 22 February 2018 08: 20
    +3
    If this is true, then the T-50 and Raptor will finally meet face to face in the air wink
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 22 February 2018 10: 28
      +1
      Quote: Shadow Shooter
      ... finally the T-50 ...

      Maybe it’s enough to call this aircraft a data cipher during development? He already has a proper name for the Su-57. It's time to get used to it. You do not call Su-24 - T-6, and Su-34 - Su-27IB. hi
    2. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 23 February 2018 11: 17
      0
      Or rub their asses? ....
      57th, in good hands, I think I can, but enta wunderwafer?
  6. Imh
    Imh 22 February 2018 08: 20
    +4
    Does the situation for Russia in Syria cease to be rosy?
    1. dnestr74
      dnestr74 22 February 2018 08: 26
      +17
      Pilots of your "penguins" should be happy)
      1. Imh
        Imh 22 February 2018 11: 47
        +1
        They're happy
    2. Pacifist
      Pacifist 22 February 2018 08: 28
      +5
      do not wait.
      1. Imh
        Imh 22 February 2018 11: 48
        +1
        And we do not wait.
      2. Varna
        Varna 22 February 2018 22: 33
        0
        Quote: Pacifist
        do not wait.

        And why do you need to bicker with a Jewish troll? You have nowhere to spend time?
    3. insular
      insular 22 February 2018 08: 30
      +13
      Quote: IMH
      Does the situation for Russia in Syria cease to be rosy?

      Why's that? Russia has a legal right to test all the latest weapons in combat.
    4. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 22 February 2018 08: 43
      +5
      Quote: IMH
      Does the situation for Russia in Syria cease to be rosy?

      Do you know what to write? .... or is it only with the Jews in the morning? - when did Russia have a RAISING situation in Syria ??? fool fool
      1. Imh
        Imh 22 February 2018 11: 51
        +2
        It was rosy at the beginning of the action. And Assad “invited”, and the heroic victory over ISIS, was all in openwork. As a result, there are few reasons for joy. Russia is being drawn into an expensive and endless Middle East war. Is there a hat on the canopy? - Or will Russia have enough money and financial stability? The question is not simple. There are also sanctions, oil is cheap. It is very necessary to be careful Vladimir Vladimirovich. A new collapse cannot be allowed. I sincerely wish Russia only good.
        1. ultra
          ultra 22 February 2018 15: 56
          +1
          Quote: IMH
          or will Russia have enough money and financial stability?

          Who about what, and lousy about the bath. laughing
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      1. Imh
        Imh 22 February 2018 11: 51
        +1
        Not complaining
    6. andj61
      andj61 22 February 2018 09: 08
      +10
      Quote: IMH
      Does the situation for Russia in Syria cease to be rosy?

      The situation for the United States is no longer rosy. Actually recognized as action! - that the withdrawal of the main forces of the air forces from Syria was premature, the group needs to be strengthened, and by no means against the bearded. Apparently, only such a hint is understood by the Americans - they ignored the hint about a peaceful resolution without confrontation between Russia and the USA in the region. hi
    7. Alex777
      Alex777 22 February 2018 09: 34
      +2
      For Israel, it has long been not rosy. There are so many Barmaleevs at the border that there aren’t enough bombs ... Unfortunately ... hi
      1. Skay
        Skay 22 February 2018 10: 28
        +4
        There are so many Barmaleevs at the border that there aren’t enough bombs

        Well, drive them to Israel. Let the caliphate be built there. winked
        1. Pathos
          Pathos 22 February 2018 12: 11
          +2
          All Israel will move to Crimea. At the Yalta Conference, the issue of creating the state of Israel on the territory of the Crimean peninsula was decided. Because comrade Stalin actively and supported the creation of the state of Israel in the territory on which it exists today.
          1. Lynx33
            Lynx33 22 February 2018 13: 25
            +1
            And now there are few of them in Crimea. There are, presumably, much more of them in Russia than in Israel.
            1. andj61
              andj61 22 February 2018 16: 19
              0
              Quote: Lynx33
              And now there are few of them in Crimea. There are, presumably, much more of them in Russia than in Israel.

              Twenty times less, if, of course, the statistics are not lying. hi
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 22 February 2018 15: 28
            0
            So the question was not solved. Bullshit is everything. You are confusing with the proposals of some JAC activists to create Jewish autonomy in Crimea instead of the abolished Crimean ASSR
            at. Exclusively for Soviet Jews, and not for Jews around the world.
      2. vasya.pupkin
        vasya.pupkin 22 February 2018 11: 34
        +1
        Quote: Alex777
        For Israel, it has long been not rosy. There are so many Barmaleevs at the border that there aren’t enough bombs ... Unfortunately ... hi

        And for this recently launched a new factory for the production of bombs.
      3. Imh
        Imh 22 February 2018 11: 52
        +1
        Enough of everything and everyone
    8. vovanpain
      vovanpain 22 February 2018 10: 20
      +5
      Quote: IMH
      Does the situation for Russia in Syria cease to be rosy?

      This is for you the situation in the VO has ceased to be rosy yes
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    10. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 22 February 2018 10: 57
      +3
      Quote: IMH
      Does the situation for Russia in Syria cease to be rosy?

      Why do you think so? If the data on the transfer of the Su-57 is true, then these are the same tests in a combat situation that the United States conducted in 2014-2015, when they began to use raptors in those parts.
    11. fighter angel
      fighter angel 26 February 2018 10: 15
      0
      But what about you, an "Israeli" who does not pronounce some consonants badly, what is the matter with Russia? Watch your situation!
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  8. Lynx33
    Lynx33 22 February 2018 08: 23
    +3
    It really hurts like a fake. I do not believe. So that our framed under the Americans prototypes of a secret fighter? Yes, the Yankees will chase after them now, so that they can record the parameters of radiation and radio visibility.
    1. gig334
      gig334 22 February 2018 08: 30
      +2
      Not a fake, the video shows that Syria. Filmed by the Syrians, they also posted this video
    2. Northern warrior
      Northern warrior 22 February 2018 10: 02
      +1
      Airplanes will have lenses that increase the EPR, so staff members can’t recognize it in any way.
  9. Spambox
    Spambox 22 February 2018 08: 28
    +1
    Quote: Irokez
    Raw and not adopted with possible childhood illnesses.

    Here, for “medical diagnostic” purposes, they sent a couple there, perhaps even in different versions of equipment and engines.
  10. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 22 February 2018 08: 29
    +6
    The 57th is more like a fake.
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 22 February 2018 09: 21
      +1

      ///////////////////
    2. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 22 February 2018 09: 40
      +2
      Well in the pictures, the Su-57 is recognizable ...
      In general, of course, "girls are dancing interestingly" ... Sending the 5th generation to the war, correcting flaws ... At the helm, I think, the same is not there anyhow who? When bailout, it’s not a fact that it will land on our territory ...
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 22 February 2018 09: 59
        +6
        Well in the pictures, the Su-57 is recognizable ...
        Stas, I somehow somehow don’t believe even reinforced concrete evidence if, apart from them, I don’t see a logical justification for the event. It is better to wait for evidence from various opposing sources or confirmation from the MO. I don’t see the need to send a non-serial aircraft with the possibility of its exposure to the radar and RTR ...
        . At the helm, I think, the same is not there anyhow who?
        Yes, I’ll love either instructors or testers ...
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 22 February 2018 10: 16
          +1
          Greetings Victor hi
          I think they won’t work ... In honor of the holiday, they’ll sit on the ground ... They will show customers and "partners" wink
      2. Govorun
        Govorun 22 February 2018 11: 23
        +2
        Do you think that such aircraft will fly at altitudes up to 2000-3000 km, reachable MANPADS, they have completely different tasks like just dropping bombs on the bearded ....
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 22 February 2018 21: 01
          +1
          And, you think, the plane can fall, only because of getting MANPADS ???
          Or mattresses, such suckers that they will be watching them with binoculars .. (secret plane)
          We had a conversation about the dangers of using a “raw” machine enough ... Over the territory, which is only 50% controlled by us ...
        2. Ace Tambourine
          Ace Tambourine 23 February 2018 11: 22
          0
          Astronauts bite their elbows from envy to the pilots ...
          They did not even dream of such heights ...
    3. yehat
      yehat 22 February 2018 12: 25
      0
      Well soon satellite photos will be available. It will be obvious WHERE THE TRUTH.
  11. gig334
    gig334 22 February 2018 08: 30
    +11
    In, and then woke up, this news is already coming from the night. I am glad that we are starting to use fifth-generation aircraft in hostilities. It’s time to check them in battle, too, to eliminate the shortcomings, if they appear. The Western swamp is already stirring from this news, begins to gurgle and hiss, to release gases.
  12. lis-ik
    lis-ik 22 February 2018 08: 30
    +1
    Most likely for an air parade, because tomorrow 23 or just a fake.
  13. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 February 2018 08: 33
    0
    About 57th - I do not believe, the rest is “within the framework”. Yes, and the A-50 there is very "on business." It is necessary to look for the "partners", and they strive to throw a trick wassat
  14. Sergey Ui
    Sergey Ui 22 February 2018 08: 33
    +4
    Su-57 advertising campaign is likely to be officially shown tomorrow in honor of the holiday
    1. Sergey Ui
      Sergey Ui 22 February 2018 08: 36
      +1
      Although it would be cool to land a dinosaur or pinnwin
  15. gukoyan
    gukoyan 22 February 2018 08: 34
    +8
    SU-57 ?????
    Well, nafig, I thought that I would not live to see the moment when he began flying tests close to combat ...
  16. Wedmak
    Wedmak 22 February 2018 08: 34
    +1
    Um ... I don’t even know, from the video it’s generally difficult to clearly say Su-57 or Su-35С, everything is blurry, the picture is dancing, the shell is not very convenient. True, they are clearly covered by the Su-30.
    1. gig334
      gig334 22 February 2018 08: 41
      +3
      here you can see better, the outlines of the su-57 are clearly visible https://twitter.com/waelalhussaini/status/9664566
      61308248065
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 22 February 2018 08: 54
        +11
        Yes, indeed a pair of Su-57, you can not confuse here. However, the pilot combat operation will take place in real combat conditions. Good luck to the pilots!
  17. Falcond
    Falcond 22 February 2018 08: 42
    +3
    Quote: Evgeniy667b

    Our rear areas are very divorced from this place of basing. Everything is very unreliable!

    It is you who made such a statement ??
    1. Govorun
      Govorun 22 February 2018 11: 26
      0
      He makes this statement as a general of the army of divan troops.
  18. Vladimir K.
    Vladimir K. 22 February 2018 08: 42
    +4
    Why not test the SU-57 in conditions as close to combat as possible? I do not think that they will be sent on an independent combat flight - the risk and reputation losses are too great in the event of the possible loss for any reason of one of such aircraft.
  19. Satum
    Satum 22 February 2018 08: 44
    +7
    The combat tests of the su -57 fellows began. )))
  20. fighter angel
    fighter angel 22 February 2018 08: 51
    +2
    Paraphrasing Vladimir Semenych:
    "We need to conduct a battle check-
    For what?
    Who will immediately understand ... "
  21. garnik
    garnik 22 February 2018 08: 59
    +7
    Strengthening the grouping is good, and the news of the transfer of Su 57 to Syria is generally a dream.
  22. Urantian
    Urantian 22 February 2018 09: 10
    +2
    We need to iron all this opposition non-stop, this masquerade with renamed bearded men is time to end ... It's good that the SU-57 was sent there, you need to run it in real combat conditions and identify shortcomings ....
  23. maratk
    maratk 22 February 2018 09: 21
    0
    and you need to check in business and increase the grouping. the campaign is really getting ready to completely clean Syria from the nusra, as Lavrov said at the end of last year.
  24. Diviz
    Diviz 22 February 2018 09: 28
    +1
    I would have sent a flying saucer there.
    1. Pathos
      Pathos 22 February 2018 12: 15
      +1
      and better immediately 2 good
  25. Romka47
    Romka47 22 February 2018 09: 33
    +4
    Two radar reconnaissance aircraft, 4 Su35, 2 Su57. it's all about fighting air. Oh I don't like it all .... Not good .....
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 22 February 2018 10: 44
      +2
      Well, T-50 can take the good old Cast iron to Guta.
      1. Romka47
        Romka47 22 February 2018 10: 59
        +1
        Well, right too
    2. yehat
      yehat 22 February 2018 10: 55
      +1
      when the Americans rolled out as they wanted the Syrians and Wagner in Syria, where no one invited them, attacked air defense questions and drones.
      1. Govorun
        Govorun 22 February 2018 11: 34
        0
        And why should our anti-aircraft defense located in Syria cover Wagner, this PMC has nothing to do with the Defense Ministry, and even the employees of this PMC are in Russia under a criminal offense (until the law is passed), and the Syrian militias who have fallen are not a regular army Syria (THESE MILITARY) who yesterday were possibly against Assad and they act on their own convictions, but naturally supporting the Assad regime, and Russia's air defense located in Syria exclusively protects our military facilities ...... but this does not mean that oo should do everything for everyone and shoot down any plane in the sky.
        1. yehat
          yehat 22 February 2018 11: 37
          0
          why our air defense in Syria should cover

          should not. but it is obvious that a base without a long arm provides a rather weak control of the territory and they are finally trying to change it.
          And it’s not a matter of some mercenaries, there are simply accumulated moments when there was not enough control (from the tomahawks hitting the airfield and the su-24 being shot down by the Syrians until recent events)
          for some reason, in our army we are very fond of the minimalistic costs of completing tasks.
          Instead of strenuous work, we always get some kind of heroic overcoming.
          finally admitted to save too much.
          1. Govorun
            Govorun 22 February 2018 13: 36
            +1
            Do you know EVERYTHING that is happening in Syria or do you only know what the media are telling you?
            1. yehat
              yehat 22 February 2018 14: 03
              0
              what is visible is enough to draw some conclusions.
              1. Govorun
                Govorun 23 February 2018 09: 57
                0
                Well then, everything is clear with the level of your EXPERTS opinion ... since you draw conclusions on what was said only on TV ... continue in the same spirit, raise your opinion))) ... but not further than your apartment ...
                1. yehat
                  yehat 24 February 2018 21: 43
                  0
                  I do not have a TV
                  if your IQ is less than 10, do not measure others by this standard.
                  1. Govorun
                    Govorun 26 February 2018 12: 53
                    0
                    Well, you already showed your IQ ... since I wrote earlier that either you get information from the media (TV, RADIO, INTERNET ... examples for those especially "gifted" like you) or you get reports from the scene ... that MAAALO probably .... the conclusion is obvious than to measure the IQ of other people, turn to your level ... which, in your reasoning, is simply ridiculous if you are confused in your own logic)))
                    1. yehat
                      yehat 26 February 2018 13: 03
                      0
                      you didn’t go through all the sources - for example, you forgot to mention grandmothers on the benches lol
                      but in general, seriously, I study history and try to use the methods of historians - to compare Old from different sources to understand where and how much truth.
                      1. Govorun
                        Govorun 26 February 2018 13: 12
                        0
                        Grandmothers on benches also take information from the media ...
                        I personally didn’t tell you anything bad, but you turned to personalities, I answered you, I would not want to continue the useless discussion, but in fact I would like to ask which sources you trust to say to yourself YES it’s true, and there NO -Lies ... the question is without a catch, your sources on this topic are simply interesting.
  26. prapor75m
    prapor75m 22 February 2018 09: 43
    +2
    In the Moscow Oblast, they probably know what they are doing, sending in fact a secret aircraft closer to the radar of Amers and Jews ..... recourse
    1. yehat
      yehat 22 February 2018 10: 56
      +1
      and what's so secret about him?
      on-board equipment like on dryers that already fly a lot where
      radar signal signature? it will appear in any case during operation
      1. prapor75m
        prapor75m 22 February 2018 11: 08
        +1
        Quote: yehat
        radar signal signature? it will appear in any case during operation

        I would like the enemies to find out as soon as possible bully
        1. Tektor
          Tektor 22 February 2018 12: 33
          0
          and what's so secret about him?
          Everything, especially the Himalayas.
  27. Dave36
    Dave36 22 February 2018 10: 21
    0
    Well fly ... why not.
  28. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 22 February 2018 10: 30
    +3
    Quote: alexmach
    Yes, what else is Su-57 then? he has not yet been accepted into service, not a single serial has been released, there are some flight models. Unless it was sent for testing, it can only be dangerous to test it on a real theater, besides why should it be shown to its "partners". It seems to me that fake.


    For example, BMPT Terminator was adopted after the break-in in Syria. Before that, he was also a prototype
  29. prior
    prior 22 February 2018 10: 30
    +1
    Su-57 - this is not to bearded in the desert to drive!
    To "partners" a hint - it is time to change the Syrian desert to the Arabian.
  30. KonoGon
    KonoGon 22 February 2018 10: 41
    +1
    Su-57, And two at once. Which motor alone? Or two? It’s good that flew., Strange without smoke ...
    1. yehat
      yehat 22 February 2018 10: 48
      0
      what's the point of trolling? engines of 2 stages have been tested for a year
      I think they have already been made by more than a dozen
      1. KonoGon
        KonoGon 22 February 2018 10: 57
        0
        Quote: yehat
        what's the point of trolling?
        I apologize if you think I'm a troll. About the motor, a clear answer, from 2, thanks. smoke - had in mind its true invisibility. A number of experts deny it.
        1. yehat
          yehat 22 February 2018 11: 00
          +2
          there is no point in talking about stealth in engines - rotary nozzles are ordinary, there are no other measures either
          although defense against weapons guided by infrared can be provided simply by maneuverability,
          and commonplace speed.
          1. KonoGon
            KonoGon 22 February 2018 11: 21
            0
            Quote: yehat
            both maneuverability and banal speed can provide defense against weapons guided by infrared.
            This requires 100% pilot attention. The 5th generation should free the pilot as much as possible for his other functions.
          2. gig334
            gig334 22 February 2018 11: 23
            +1
            Quote: yehat
            yehat

            Look at the F-35 nozzle, it's wider than the Su-57. As for the f-22 stealth, it is only in the paper characteristics of this aircraft. In reality, the new Russian radars, they calmly see and lead it. With the new radars that are in the S-400 complexes, In the SU-35s, Su-57 airplanes, etc., these invisibles see everything perfectly.
            1. yehat
              yehat 22 February 2018 11: 27
              0
              the f-35 has one engine with a very powerful engine, and the su-57 has two weaker ones.
              it would be strange if the f-35 nozzle were smaller.
              1. gig334
                gig334 22 February 2018 11: 58
                +1
                Quote: yehat
                the f-35 has one engine with a very powerful engine, and the su-57 has two weaker ones.
                it would be strange if the f-35 nozzle were smaller.

                f-35 So powerful that in many respects inferior to 4 generation aircraft? You at least do not disgrace, read the characteristics of it.
                1. yehat
                  yehat 22 February 2018 12: 02
                  0
                  read it yourself. at t50 2 engines have higher total power,
                  but if you compare one, then the f-35 is more powerful and much more powerful.
              2. gig334
                gig334 22 February 2018 12: 09
                0
                Quote: yehat
                the f-35 has one engine with a very powerful engine, and the su-57 has two weaker ones.
                it would be strange if the f-35 nozzle were smaller.

                Do you consider this option? and so on, compare the characteristics below, the su-57 is more powerful in all respects

                Comparison of the Su-57 with the engine of the first stage, as we see it, and with it surpasses the whole f-22, f-35
                1. yehat
                  yehat 22 February 2018 12: 27
                  0
                  that’s just like rams stupidly doing the same thing - they can’t understand what I am comparing for one engine from t50 and one engine for f-35.
                  there is no talk about any TOTAL performance characteristics, because the width of the ENGINE nozzle is discussed, and not the plane.
                  1. gig334
                    gig334 22 February 2018 13: 26
                    +1
                    Quote: yehat
                    that’s just like rams stupidly doing the same thing - they can’t understand what I am comparing for one engine from t50 and one engine for f-35.
                    there is no talk about any TOTAL performance characteristics, because the width of the ENGINE nozzle is discussed, and not the plane.

                    So do not stupid, and write that you are comparing one engine, although it is not clear why. Compared engine totals. And so, judging by your comments, f-22 is generally rubbish, 100 times worse than f 35, because one f-22 engine is weaker than one Su-57 engine. Bye bye.
                    1. yehat
                      yehat 22 February 2018 14: 04
                      0
                      Why attribute this nonsense to me?
  31. Livonetc
    Livonetc 22 February 2018 10: 42
    +1
    Quote: DiViZ
    I would have sent a flying saucer there.

    So it was you?
    That's right that they did not send.
    House plates are needed.
    There is nothing to throw from the windows!
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 22 February 2018 10: 59
      +1
      We’ve gotten into something - we hit plates all year,
      We have already eaten a dog on them, if the chef does not lie to us.
      © famous
  32. yehat
    yehat 22 February 2018 10: 47
    0
    A-50U

    I welcome you in every possible way, it’s a pity that they had not been transferred before.
  33. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 22 February 2018 10: 52
    0
    Well, that’s all ... the baboons and all the other virgins are gone! laughing wassat
  34. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 22 February 2018 10: 59
    +1
    You need to know the gain from the "partners" and the Jewish aggressors. And the SU-57 for running in close to the fighting. To see ...
    1. yehat
      yehat 22 February 2018 11: 05
      0
      We have a popular theme of testing in combat.
      so it was with a whole bunch of aircraft - from la-5 and la-7 to su-25, instant-25.
  35. Old military officer
    Old military officer 22 February 2018 11: 10
    0
    Well, tests for combat use came up. . It is clear that this will reveal any flaws. But the reaction of the closest "friends and partners" is very, very interesting. What "7.40" will Netanyahu sing? What about Mr. Trump?
  36. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 22 February 2018 11: 14
    +1
    Checking all systems in a real combat situation in the new climatic conditions. The development of weapons, their real use in the theater of operations. Where else can this be found?
    1. yehat
      yehat 22 February 2018 11: 25
      0
      Somalia, Spratly Islands, Philippines, the UAE conflict with its neighbor, the world does not get bored
      1. Lena Petrova
        Lena Petrova 22 February 2018 13: 53
        0
        There are a lot of conflicts - not everywhere you can risk trying the SU-57. :))
  37. Chord
    Chord 22 February 2018 11: 25
    +1
    Whoever said anything, but everyone is looking forward to the results from our new ,, birds ,,. Regarding the holiday, an exemplary presentation of gifts to barmalies and others like them is planned.
  38. Alexander War
    Alexander War 22 February 2018 11: 38
    +1
    Su-57 in Syria wow good They will test the radar systems there and F-22 and other NATO planes fly, plus weapons, plus how much the Su-57 is not noticeable for radars! I think they will cover it with the Su-35S
    1. yehat
      yehat 22 February 2018 14: 05
      +2
      the main thing is that they do not conduct tests on the ram and on the use of a catapult
  39. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 22 February 2018 11: 39
    +2
    The fact that the A-50 and additionally the Su-35 S were transferred speaks of the aggravation of the situation with all the "partners" who are protecting the militants and the opposition .... and the arrival of 2 Su-57s is certainly a bomb, I think in addition to running in the fighting on the ground, they will also be used as flying radars, well, plus new weapons will be rolled in on barmaley which is in service on the Su-57
    1. yehat
      yehat 22 February 2018 11: 41
      0
      I think there will be testing of the capabilities of STELS technology and locations in real conditions.
  40. Sergey_I
    Sergey_I 22 February 2018 12: 19
    0
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    something serious is planned in the confrontation with the USA

    But what kind of “confrontation” can there be?
  41. Sergey_I
    Sergey_I 22 February 2018 12: 20
    0
    Quote: yehat
    I think there will be testing of the capabilities of STELS technology and locations in real conditions.

    And the enemy will report, see them or not?
    1. yehat
      yehat 22 February 2018 12: 29
      0
      an analysis of his reaction will report
  42. Alkonost
    Alkonost 22 February 2018 12: 23
    +1
    The 9th and 11th arrived. I will say this, the Su-30SM, Su-34, Su-35 passed many tests and were mass-produced. And as soon as it flew to Syria, the military had many comments and suggestions. Now the factories are correcting the shortcomings, both on the sides under construction, and on undergoing repairs. Such tests are much more effective and will provide a lot of useful information, but the risks are much higher. Whether they are justified or not, time will tell. We hope for the best and wish them good luck. Su-25 and Ka-50 also passed tests in Afghanistan and Chechnya, respectively ...
  43. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 22 February 2018 12: 25
    +1
    With such powers, it’s a sin not to bother the Americans.
  44. Tektor
    Tektor 22 February 2018 12: 25
    0
    On holiday, it means they decided to celebrate and intimidate overgrown impudence. Probably, a mess is planned ... With baptism of fire, Su-57! Although, it would be better not quite.
  45. Sergey_I
    Sergey_I 22 February 2018 12: 26
    0
    Quote: yehat
    when the Americans rolled out as they wanted the Syrians and Wagner in Syria, where no one invited them, attacked air defense questions and drones.

    So it was the defense of the army. But who will use it to protect PMCs?
  46. Borik
    Borik 22 February 2018 12: 58
    +2
    Quote: figvam
    The otter is being prepared for mattresses, for one and new weapons it is possible to test.

    Israel recently got an F-35 here ours and agreed with them to arrange sparring. It is necessary to identify the strengths and weaknesses of each other.
  47. Sergey_I
    Sergey_I 22 February 2018 13: 05
    0
    Quote: figvam
    Otvetka prepare mattress

    What can be the answer?
  48. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 22 February 2018 13: 10
    0
    A test in a combat situation is good and true.
  49. Geterosigma
    Geterosigma 22 February 2018 14: 08
    +1
    I would pack suitcases in place of American PMCs before it is too late.
  50. lazy
    lazy 22 February 2018 15: 36
    0
    it's ju zhu for good reason