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Klimkin explained why Ukrainians are fleeing abroad

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After the data on leaving Ukraine about 12% of the working-age population were published by the international organization for migration registration and control, the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, Pavel Klimkin, entered the case. He decided to find the Maidan explanation of why Ukrainians leave for millions to look for work in foreign countries (Russia, Poland, the Czech Republic, Italy, Germany, etc.)


According to the Ukrainian minister, this is actually a “peremoga” of the country's authorities, since the opportunity to leave for other countries to Ukrainians gives the resulting visa-free.

Mr. Klimkin is cited by the Ukrainian media:
Last year alone, about a million citizens left Ukraine. Look, when 100 of thousands of Ukrainians leave Ukraine every month, and the questions are not only that there are higher salaries. This is generally an understanding of the future and quality of life. Migration is facilitated by a visa-free regime with the European Union, which has been in effect since June 2017.


Klimkin explained why Ukrainians are fleeing abroad


Klimkin presented in pink tones the fact that more and more Ukrainian schoolchildren are learning Polish in order to later move to Poland.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister:
I remember how I once visited a Polish school in Ivano-Frankivsk, in which 24 Polish class and almost no Poles.

Apparently, Klimkin is the only foreign minister in the world who announces the departure of hundreds of thousands of his fellow citizens from the country a great achievement of the current authorities.

If Klimkin is against this state of affairs, then, it turns out, he is the main “enemy” of Ukraine, for now he is going to criticize the introduced visa-free travel with Europe.
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  1. New Year day
    New Year day 21 February 2018 06: 40
    +9
    everyone will run away and Klimkin will remain with Poroshenko and Tymoshenko. That's how they will live, live
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 21 February 2018 06: 47
      +9
      Quote: Silvestr
      everyone will run away and Klimkin will remain with Poroshenko and Tymoshenko. That's how they will live, live

      Yeah, Yulka - right on the road ... and Klimkin - Pedro, instead of a pig’s mouth will be!
      1. dik-nsk
        dik-nsk 21 February 2018 06: 50
        +3
        Ukrainian land will be deserted at such a pace and there will be no one to fight with Donbass, but how many more able-bodied people are buried in the war .. like this, naturally the west of Ukraine will move to Poland, and the east to Russia and this pseudo state will disappear
        1. igog
          igog 21 February 2018 07: 31
          +1
          is this news?
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 21 February 2018 07: 56
            +4
            Quote: igog
            is this news?

            No. A statement of the fact that soon the Ukrins will not enter Poland, but Poland will enter Urkaina, taking Lviv and Ivano-Frankivsk Regions under their jurisdiction. Work on the assimilation of the population of these regions has already been successfully carried out.
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 21 February 2018 06: 54
        +4
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Yeah, Yulka - right on the road ... and Klimkin - Pedro, instead of a pig’s mouth

        I do not think the chieftains have a "gold reserve"
      3. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 21 February 2018 08: 01
        +3
        Stara is already Julia for such a job.
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    2. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 21 February 2018 07: 35
      +6
      It covers the economic devastation in the country with a visa-free regime, people flee from the fact that there is no work and, accordingly, no income.
      1. Don
        Don 21 February 2018 07: 48
        +4
        It is interesting how many will leave Russia if they suddenly make a visa-free regime with Europe? I think a little less than 12 percent. Is funny So laugh further at yourself.
        1. Kot_Kuzya
          Kot_Kuzya 21 February 2018 07: 56
          +11
          Yeah, the Russians are kept behind the iron curtain, they are not letting anyone out of the country. You are ridiculous propagandist, bulk.
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          3. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 21 February 2018 09: 52
            +2
            I wonder what kind of comments they wrote to me if they were deleted so quickly?
        2. Ren
          Ren 21 February 2018 08: 13
          +7
          Quote: Donskoy
          It is interesting how many will leave Russia if they suddenly make a visa-free regime with Europe?

          Do you need a visa to get a tourist to Europe?
          Is the price of 35 euros annoying? recourse The cost of tickets, accommodation amid the cost of a visa - nothing! lol
        3. Ren
          Ren 21 February 2018 08: 19
          +4
          If, nevertheless, the visa price is annoying, welcome to the countries listed below as a tourist, there are no visas for Russian citizens:
          Abkhazia
          Azerbaijan
          Albania (only in the summer season)
          Antigua and Barbuda
          Argentina
          Armenia
          Bahamas
          Bangladesh
          Barbados
          Bahrain
          Byelorussia
          Bosnia and Herzegovina
          Bolivia
          Botswana
          Brazil
          Burundi
          Vanuatu
          Venezuela
          Восточный Тимор
          Vietnam
          Haiti
          Guyana
          Gambia
          Guatemala
          Honduras
          Hong Kong
          Grenada
          Georgia
          Djibouti
          Dominica
          Dominican
          Egypt
          Zambia
          Western Samoa
          Zimbabwe
          Israel
          India
          Indonesia
          Jordan
          Iran
          Cape Verde
          Kazakhstan
          Cambodia
          Kenya
          Cyprus
          Kyrgyzstan
          Colombia
          Comoros
          Costa Rica
          PRC (Hainan / Beijing / Shanghai only)
          Cuba
          Kuwait
          Laos
          Lebanon
          Mauritius
          Madagascar
          Макао
          Macedonia
          Malaysia
          Maldives
          Morocco
          Mexico
          Micronesia
          Mozambique
          Moldavia
          Mongolia
          Myanmar *
          Namibia
          Nauru
          Nepal
          Nicaragua
          United Arab Emirates
          Ck
          Palau
          Panama
          Paraguay
          Peru
          Питкэрн
          Salvador
          Sao Tome and Principe
          Swaziland
          Northern Mariana Islands
          Seychelles
          Vc
          St. Lucia
          Saint Kitts and Nevis
          Serbia
          Singapore
          Syria
          Tajikistan
          Thailand
          Tanzania
          Togo
          Tonga
          Tuvalu
          Туркменистан
          Trinidad and Tobago
          Tunisia
          Turkey
          Uganda
          Uzbekistan
          Ukraine
          Uruguay
          Fiji
          Philippines
          CAR
          Montenegro
          Chile
          Sri Lanka
          Ecuador
          Eritrea
          Ethiopia
          South Korea
          South Ossetia
          South Africa
          Jamaica
          1. Nikolay73
            Nikolay73 22 February 2018 13: 01
            0
            ... I suspected that everything was not easy, but I didn’t think so much! How to choose now? So I will stay in our "bloody face" with the "hellish" Putin! I don’t need a Turkish coast, Kuban is dearer and dearer to me! :)
        4. You Vlad
          You Vlad 21 February 2018 08: 24
          +4
          Quote: Donskoy
          It is interesting how many will leave Russia if they suddenly make a visa-free regime with Europe? I think a little less than 12 percent. Is funny So laugh further at yourself.

          From Maidan returned lol Is your visa a problem? fellow
        5. Piramidon
          Piramidon 21 February 2018 08: 28
          +2
          Quote: Donskoy
          It is interesting how many will leave Russia if they suddenly make a visa-free regime with Europe? I think a little less than 12 percent. Is funny So laugh further at yourself.

          And who doesn’t let them in? Some sort of Maidan reasoning, they also saw a lot of money for freebies in visa-free travel.
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        7. private person
          private person 21 February 2018 12: 25
          +1
          Good riddance to you. and now no one is holding you. But only as whom do you see yourself in Europe? And as whom Europeans see you.
    3. krops777
      krops777 21 February 2018 08: 50
      +2
      Apparently, Klimkin is the only foreign minister in the world who announces the departure of hundreds of thousands of his fellow citizens from the country a great achievement of the current authorities.


      And what else can he say, to say that everything is ruined and people are not fleeing from a good life - it means to acknowledge the defeat of the current authorities, and this is rubbing another gallop at the racers whose brains were completely beaten off.
    4. RUSS
      RUSS 21 February 2018 09: 04
      +1
      Quote: Silvestr
      everyone will run away and Klimkin will remain with Poroshenko and Tymoshenko. That's how they will live, live

      "The countries of the Visegrad Group (Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic) allow Ukrainians to find temporary jobs for several months. Ukrainians were able to travel throughout Europe without visas, and this opened the way for those who want to work abroad legally and illegally. Transport links too improved.

      In Poland, 1,5 million registered zarobitchits from Ukraine, while authorities believe that another half million work without registration. The Czech Republic is not far behind and plans to double quotas for Ukrainian workers this year.

      Official Ukrainian data say that the country has lost 7% of the working population since 2015. And according to the International Organization for Migration, this figure is already 12%, if we take into account those Ukrainians who plan to find work abroad in the near future. So Ukraine in the near future is waiting for a significant reduction in the population, the magnitude of which is still hard to imagine.

      For demographic problems, as you know, immediately come economic. After all, if there is no population, then there is no one to collect taxes from. Given the fact that more and more Ukrainians seek to stay in the host countries, which is called “permanently”, Ukraine is reducing its tax base. Including the future, as naturalized "zrobitschane" export their wives and children from the country. Already in Poland, more than 300 thousand Ukrainians are paying contributions to the social insurance fund - this is the highest figure in history. "
    5. Warrior with machine gun
      Warrior with machine gun 21 February 2018 16: 17
      +2
      Well then, at least for some parameters Sweden will laughing
    6. Vkd dvk
      Vkd dvk 22 February 2018 02: 15
      0
      Quote: Silvestr
      everyone will run away and Klimkin will remain with Poroshenko and Tymoshenko. That's how they will live, live

      All will not be able to escape. There will be pensioners, people with disabilities and criminals who have been prosecuted by international law enforcement agencies and who, even for visa-free travel, will not be allowed to go anywhere further than the local prison.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 21 February 2018 06: 45
    +3
    Do you live VNA? Be a Pole! Life is beautiful!
  3. svp67
    svp67 21 February 2018 06: 45
    +5
    Apparently, Klimkin is the only foreign minister in the world who announces the departure of hundreds of thousands of his fellow citizens from the country a great achievement of the current authorities.
    Yes, not the only one, before him there are still THREE of his colleagues from the Baltic republics who were "proud" of this ...
  4. gukoyan
    gukoyan 21 February 2018 06: 49
    0
    And I didn’t know that there was a visa-free relationship between the Russian Federation and the Ruin ...
    1. 210ox
      210ox 21 February 2018 07: 33
      +2
      You will probably be surprised that the story is also common ...
      Quote: gukoyan
      And I didn’t know that there was a visa-free relationship between the Russian Federation and the Ruin ...
  5. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 21 February 2018 06: 49
    +2
    The joy is undisguised among idiots. Soon, only cats and dogs will communicate in Ukrainian.
    1. igog
      igog 21 February 2018 07: 33
      +2
      and n ... with him. (ё). (for worried moderators)
    2. Filing
      Filing 22 February 2018 13: 28
      0
      My friend yesterday, the Minister of Education announced that teachers have no right to force students to learn lessons. Full d "bills are easily manageable. May" downs bring up a shift.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 February 2018 06: 52
    +7
    Klimkin is a clear example of Maidan (cave) diplomacy. They are sitting head over heels in waste, but by all means try to pass it off as a victory and merit in their "difficult and painstaking" work to advance to Europe. Ukrainians really soon all will be in the EU, only the country will remain on the sidelines forgotten and plundered.
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 21 February 2018 06: 57
      +4
      Gennady hi - as soon as all ukrointsy escape from ukroiny, the territory ukroiny us immediately turn into their military base near us!
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 21 February 2018 07: 04
        +4
        Greetings! hi So the Americans are already being actively built in the Ochakovo district. Allegedly, a naval operational center is being built, but in fact the same base. With Sevastopol broke off so that the creak of American teeth is heard perfectly today and will be heard for a long time.
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 21 February 2018 07: 22
        +3
        in fact, in Ukraine there are already so many of their points. The baklaboratory near Kharkov has been working somewhere since 2010, the same one near Odessa
  7. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 21 February 2018 06: 55
    +5
    Well then, a significant excess of mortality over fertility is also an improvement - in Ukraine there will be cleaner air, less need to be spent on social programs, after 20 years unemployment will disappear even as a concept ... yes ... yes ... Can we expect logical judgments from the authorities of a country where national heroes are traitors and criminals, the best event is when a cow died in a neighbor, oligarchs lead the fight against state corruption, etc.
    In general, I am amazed that this quasi-state still exists. Shche did not die ???
  8. Herculesic
    Herculesic 21 February 2018 06: 56
    +4
    They flee abroad, in order not to get to the massacre in the Donbass in the first place, or inside ukroiny not to be killed or crippled by crazy warriors from the “native army”!
  9. Elizar Zadunaysky
    Elizar Zadunaysky 21 February 2018 07: 01
    +2
    or Klimkin or the author confused - without a right to work does not give a right! collapsing and destroying the whole country, you can call it an achievement of the authorities so that what invaders didn’t get anything
  10. samarin1969
    samarin1969 21 February 2018 07: 07
    +2
    In the forefront of receiving migrant workers, the "aggressor" is Russia. And what will Pan Klimkin say about this?
  11. inkass_98
    inkass_98 21 February 2018 07: 13
    +1
    For a long time no one is surprised at the words of Paphnutius. I am sure that specially appointed psychiatrists enthusiastically outline his speeches - where else can you find so much material for several dissertations?
  12. Vard
    Vard 21 February 2018 07: 16
    +1
    Why ... why ... they want to eat ...
  13. Herculesic
    Herculesic 21 February 2018 07: 22
    +2
    Actually, Klimkin, using a tangled tongue, said that Ukrainians were fleeing ukroins along the road, rarely on the path! wassat
  14. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 21 February 2018 07: 31
    +8
    see when 100 thousand Ukrainians leave Ukraine every month,
    I read and rejoice that at the helm of the Foreign Ministry S.V. Lavrov. Ready for him drinks
  15. sgr291158
    sgr291158 21 February 2018 07: 37
    +2
    First, let these schizophrenics figure out why the people are fleeing, and then they think it is over or zrada.
  16. Strashila
    Strashila 21 February 2018 07: 44
    +1
    Yeah ... Europeans ... if such a visa-free plan was implemented in the year 1994-1995 with respect to Russia ... then, on the wave of a euphoric liberal wave for Russia, everything could end badly ... but the West chose afro -Arab-Asians, well, let them suffer with them ... Ukraine is a prototype of what could be with Russia in the 90s, do not write the Western Democrats only when mentioning Russia .... the scale of their thoughts was not enough.
  17. rocket757
    rocket757 21 February 2018 08: 16
    +1
    Nothing, nothing, women still give birth!
    Shaw here to discuss, it is necessary to work for demographics sweat ... or something like that!
    True rainbow motives lead to some doubt !!! In any case, their affairs are affairs!
  18. Dormidont
    Dormidont 21 February 2018 08: 51
    +1
    The fish is looking for where it’s deeper, and the outskirts, where the freebie
  19. nivander
    nivander 21 February 2018 09: 07
    0
    Kursk nightingale
  20. Moskovit
    Moskovit 21 February 2018 09: 56
    +1
    Now it’s clear why Europe gave Ukraine visa-free travel - millions of cheap workers. Arabs and blacks can’t be forced to work, and Ukrainians will happily run to wash toilets. Klimkin, like the entire leadership of Ukraine, makes a good face with a bad game. What else to brag about? Yet import and export to the aggressor country has increased, but it’s a zrad ...
  21. Jeremiah
    Jeremiah 21 February 2018 10: 10
    0
    Like any stupid leader, Klim Chugunkin, rejoices in reducing the number of subordinates .. Less work, but the same money.))) In fact, the earnings in the countries where fellow citizens leave are at least three to four times higher than the local ones and this is in an ordinary workplace, but it can also be successfully arranged. Moreover, the desire to stay in these countries permanently is encouraged .. Recently, an unspoken restriction on this applies in Poland for people from the western regions .... Those who are really able-bodied and adequate leave, who understand that with a country in which diplomatic madmen have seized power, they out of the way. There remain the so-called Svidomo (conscious) for the whole head, which are treated either with a cuff in the forehead, or with a bullet in the back of the head .. There are a lot of people who see clearly, who realized in the fourth year that they were always deceived, to say the least. Those flee in the first place .. Well, there are a lot of those who are not going to leave their homeland due to the fact that they are temporarily ruled in it .... There is only one homeland, and there are a lot of zats who sooner or later will disappear, apparently .. And if everyone escapes, what should the wolves of Zaokensky leave her ?. People are running because our business is used to living not bad, setting crazy paychecks, minimal salaries and don’t bother too much, and people don’t want to work for pennies ... Although the opportunity to work abroad was always ... It’s just not been so bad on the spot
    1. Moskovit
      Moskovit 21 February 2018 12: 08
      +2
      Communicated with your fellow countrywoman from Cherkasy. She carries goods from China. He said earlier, under the rotten and corrupt regime of Yanukovych, she paid 200 bucks for a container at customs over duty to be quickly cleared. Now, after replacing with honest and incorruptible ones, you have to pay 500 .... And if you don’t pay, then the container can stand for a month or two, and this is additional storage money.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 21 February 2018 12: 14
        +2
        Quote: Moskovit
        Communicated with your countrywoman

        in the summer I talked with shuttles from the Crimea; they go to Odessa for goods. He asked how you cross the border, like Ukrainian border guards?
        Everything is fine, only they raised the price for the bag. Yes, and you have to pay at both border posts.
        1. Moskovit
          Moskovit 21 February 2018 13: 02
          +1
          Freedom is expensive
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 21 February 2018 13: 20
            +2
            Quote: Moskovit
            Freedom is expensive

            as our “thought giant” said, “freedom is better than not freedom”
  22. Jeremiah
    Jeremiah 21 February 2018 10: 13
    +2
    Quote: rocket757
    Nothing, nothing, women still give birth!
    Shaw here to discuss, it is necessary to work for demographics sweat ... or something like that!
    True rainbow motives lead to some doubt !!! In any case, their affairs are affairs!

    Women do not really want to give birth ... They understand that it’s not worth giving birth to slaves for someone .. Although there are separate creatures that give birth to 6-10 children and live and drink at the expense of children's money ... Especially the Western one sins this
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 21 February 2018 12: 59
      +1
      Sorry, I'm unsuccessful, and I remember for our troubles.
      We have a better one, a fact, but not all problems have been resolved either ... although, compared to Gabon or someone else, I overdo it, as it was said in some funny film, with a foreign accent - you eat too much .. snickering around! -
      There is now help from the state, just nostalgia from the Land of Soviets, when the sky was blue and the grass was green.
  23. Antares
    Antares 21 February 2018 12: 28
    +2
    Apparently, Klimkin is the only foreign minister in the world who announces the departure of hundreds of thousands of his fellow citizens from the country a great achievement of the current authorities.
    If Klimkin is against this state of affairs, then, it turns out, he is the main “enemy” of Ukraine, for now he is going to criticize the introduced visa-free travel with Europe.

    in general, articles in Ukrainian media
    Foreign Minister of Ukraine Pavel Klimkin is concerned about the mass departure of compatriots to the West

    But only in Russian, he is glad.
    The diplomat warned that if this tendency could not be changed, then the ongoing reforms would “hit” the Ukrainians themselves. However, according to forecasts of the National Bank of Ukraine, the outflow of the population in the near future will not stop. Moreover, the financial regulator warned of the risk of increased labor migration. In 2017, the majority of citizens left to work in Poland, Russia, Italy and the Czech Republic, and the number of emigrants to Lithuania doubled.
    As for the zradnik and visa-free travel. Ator didn’t even bother to give complete statements
    “Any good thing, either an Association Agreement, or a visa-free regime can serve us as a plus, but it carries risks,” Klimkin said.

    A study by Expat Insider showed that 4,4 million people live in Russia, in Canada and Poland - 1,2 million each, in the USA - 940 thousand, in Brazil - 500 thousand, in Italy - 231 thousand, in Germany - 230 thousand . Many Ukrainians use a visa-free regime at all, not for tourist trips, but for traveling to work.
    According to the journalist Ruslan Kotsaba, the migration and border services are silent about 100 thousand people who have expired over 90 days in the Schengen countries and will no longer return to their homeland, which is about 30% of the total number of emigrants.
    It's funny that there are a lot of articles devoted to Klimkin on VO. Despite the fact that he is Russian, but serves in Ukraine (relatives of Russians). Usually humiliating articles, they say bad radish.
    I didn’t find this in any article

    for which some of our condemned him (but we and you have lovers of hatred). However, his position and Vakarchuk remained unchanged.
  24. armourer
    armourer 21 February 2018 12: 52
    +1
    People are leaving to work, not from a good life. And it is very sad
  25. Jeremiah
    Jeremiah 21 February 2018 13: 03
    +1
    Quote: Moskovit
    Communicated with your fellow countrywoman from Cherkasy. She carries goods from China. He said earlier, under the rotten and corrupt regime of Yanukovych, she paid 200 bucks for a container at customs over duty to be quickly cleared. Now, after replacing with honest and incorruptible ones, you have to pay 500 .... And if you don’t pay, then the container can stand for a month or two, and this is additional storage money.

    Believe me, this is all true and confirmation that incorruptibles are always more expensive ...
  26. rus-5819
    rus-5819 21 February 2018 13: 15
    0
    He decided to find Maidan explanation
    apparently an otopyatka: maydaunnoe ...

    Klimkin presented in pink tones the fact that more and more Ukrainian schoolchildren are learning Polish in order to later move to Poland.

    Well, why! They will definitely return ... together with Poland!
  27. raw174
    raw174 21 February 2018 14: 12
    +1
    They said earlier that Ukrainians are actually exporting the European economy on their shoulders from the pit! Those. not only protect Europe with weapons, but also develop their economy!
  28. SmokeR 47RU
    SmokeR 47RU 21 February 2018 18: 58
    0
    Does it really bother me that Ukrainian schoolchildren want to move to our sworn enemies pshek !!! ???
  29. Igor Levertov
    Igor Levertov April 23 2018 16: 11
    0
    A territorial entity called Ukraine will soon be, I believe, divided between interested parties, because you cannot build your policy on eternal Russophobia and provoking constant conflicts with neighbors, while based on the approval of the Nazi ideology condemned by the Nuremberg Tribunal. It’s just that at some point everyone will be bored and will have to localize this infection within the framework of the five Western regions of Ukraine. This will be the Klimkin Peremoga. And then it will be seen, because it will be a completely different story.