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MFA: Assistance to dozens of Russians injured in Syria during the clashes

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The official Online The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia has published a statement by the foreign affairs agency regarding the provision of assistance to the citizens of Russia who suffered in Syria. We are talking about the Russians, as confirmed by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, who took part in armed clashes in the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic outside the formations, in which there were Russian military personnel.


We present the comment of the Information and Press Department of the Russian Foreign Ministry:
As already noted, there are Russian citizens in Syria who have gone there voluntarily and for different purposes. It is not up to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to assess the legality and legitimacy of such decisions.

At the same time, given that we are talking about citizens of Russia who are abroad, we would like to note the following. In the course of the recent military confrontation, in which the military personnel of the Russian Federation did not participate in any way and standard technical means were not used, there are dead citizens of Russia and the CIS countries, this has already been said, there are also wounded people - there are several dozens of them. They were assisted in returning to Russia where, as far as we know, they are undergoing treatment in various medical institutions.


MFA: Assistance to dozens of Russians injured in Syria during the clashes


At the same time, the Information and Press Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia does not report on the specific number of wounded Russians, who were previously called by the media representatives of the “Wagner Group”.

Recall that earlier, Maria Zakharova, during a briefing, noted that in Syria, "allegedly five Russians who were not servicemen could have died." This is an incident that occurred in early February in the valley of the Euphrates River in the province of Deir-ez-Zor. The liberal mass media of the Russian Federation and some foreign publications, doing reprints from social networks, announced “hundreds of dead Vagnerovtsy”. MFA denies this information.
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  1. graf1980
    graf1980 20 February 2018 16: 16
    +20
    well, and how to understand this, it’s openly impossible for chicken to eat
    1. You Vlad
      You Vlad 20 February 2018 16: 18
      +16
      Quote: graf1980
      well, and how to understand this, it’s openly impossible for chicken to eat

      For me, they chewed everything and put it in their mouth than you did not please?
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 20 February 2018 16: 24
        +9
        There is a law on mercenarism! And according to the law everyone needs to be judged ... The law must always be fulfilled!
        "Criminal Code of the Russian Federation" from 13.06.1996 N 63-ФЗ (ed. From 06.07.2016)
        Criminal Code, Article 359. Mercenary
        .
        Note. A mercenary is a person who is acting for the purpose of receiving material remuneration and who is not a citizen of a state participating in an armed conflict or military actions, who does not reside permanently on its territory, and who is not a person who is assigned to perform official duties.
        The key definition of a mercenary is “a person acting in order to obtain material compensation”

        If you didn’t have time to amend, then please ...
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 20 February 2018 16: 26
          +10
          Quote: Anarchist
          There is a law on mercenarism! And according to the law everyone needs to be judged ... The law must always be fulfilled!

          Read it again:
          As already noted, in Syria are Russian citizens who went there on their own free will and for different purposes. It is not the business of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to assess the competence and legality of such decisions.
          .
          1. Anarchist
            Anarchist 20 February 2018 16: 30
            +10
            Quote: You Vlad
            for different purposes.

            I do not have a claim to the Foreign Ministry, but to the authorities of the legal sphere ...
            No one hides that they served in a PMC-Wagner. I think not for free!
            The key definition of a mercenary is “a person acting in order to obtain material compensation”
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 20 February 2018 16: 32
              +1
              Quote: Anarchist
              I do not have a claim to the Foreign Ministry, but to the authorities of the legal sphere ...

              Well, yes, everyone goes under this, there is always a reason!
            2. Leeds
              Leeds 20 February 2018 16: 58
              +18
              But when other points of view based on neutral sources slipped through the pile of customers “Ha ha, another fake”, vegetables began to recall the “wives of Crimean officers”. They washed, as usual, unfortunately.

              But our Foreign Ministry should pay tribute. Did everything beautifully. They fooled their heads until the masses froze to this news about the death of the Russian pitchers. Then vaguely recognized. As a result, they did not lie and people were not shocked that the Americans put our men there.

              Interestingly, it would be enough for our people to do the same with the conditional blackwaters, although there are mainly those who are in line for a striped passport, and not its holders.
              1. You Vlad
                You Vlad 20 February 2018 17: 23
                +5
                Quote: Leeds
                But when in a pile of customers

                Quote: Leeds
                vegetables began to remember

                From where you just come from recourse I’m not at all enlightened by my thoughts!
              2. Piramidon
                Piramidon 21 February 2018 00: 04
                +2
                Quote: Leeds
                But when other points of view slipped into the pile of customers “Ha ha, another fake” ...

                Basically, the fake called the number of dead PMKashnikov. After all, there was immediately a throw-in about the “stopwatch” only killed.
              3. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 21 February 2018 03: 31
                +3
                Quote: Leeds
                But when other points of view based on neutral sources slipped through the pile of customers “Ha ha, another fake”, vegetables began to recall the “wives of Crimean officers”. They washed, as usual, unfortunately.

                But our Foreign Ministry should pay tribute. Did everything beautifully. They fooled their heads until the masses froze to this news about the death of the Russian pitchers. Then vaguely recognized. As a result, they did not lie and people were not shocked that the Americans put our men there.

                Interestingly, it would be enough for our people to do the same with the conditional blackwaters, although there are mainly those who are in line for a striped passport, and not its holders.

                finally "you", inadequate all-crawler, initially said that it was fake with unrealistic losses of several hundred !!! fool fool just "you" and bred with such messages !!! in the end, “you” reduced everything to the fact that, they said, “I” said that there were losses and wounded .... and nothing, that there were not 100500, but only 5, but “I” said that you are all fooled !!! in the end, they hold for idiots just "you" !!! request wink yes lol lol lol
                1. Leeds
                  Leeds 22 February 2018 15: 57
                  +1
                  One of the characteristic qualities of a typical "Uryashka" is the ability to change shoes on time and not redder. Your brother remembered the “wives of Crimean officers” after the figure 15 +/- 200s sounded (kingdom of heaven). Therefore, find a match for yourself.
            3. Guillon
              Guillon 21 February 2018 14: 04
              0
              And PMCs are illegal for us?!? hi
          2. oldseaman1957
            oldseaman1957 20 February 2018 16: 32
            +6
            Quote: You Vlad
            It is not the business of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to assess the competence and legality of such decisions.
            - The French have been using the Foreign Legion for so many years, - this is so, for example. But we respect only our own rake. Such a mentality, perhaps ...
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 20 February 2018 16: 37
              +2
              Quote: oldseaman1957
              Such a mentality, perhaps ...

              We have a different mentality for the idea, yes! For money, but against justice this is a problem.
            2. Ryazan87
              Ryazan87 20 February 2018 18: 11
              +9
              The example is incorrect.
              Foreign Legion is part of the armed forces of France and is officially subordinate to the Ministry of Defense. In addition, it was founded completely officially and openly by King Louis Philippe in 1831.
              This, to put it mildly, is never a PMC.
            3. GUSAR
              GUSAR 20 February 2018 22: 45
              +1
              With a foreign legion, the example is incorrect. The Legion is not a private shop, but an OFFICIAL armed group, which is part of the official armed forces.
          3. Strips
            Strips 20 February 2018 17: 00
            +21
            Quote: You Vlad
            As already noted, in Syria are Russian citizens who went there on their own free will and for different purposes. It is not the business of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to assess the competence and legality of such decisions.


            And how did they get to Syria? Who delivered them there? Gave weapons, security?
            Do they hold fools for people? negative

            What does it mean of its own free will? Everyone can tell if I should go to Syria to fight, otherwise every Monday a flight flies to Syria, where you will be offered drinks, delicious food, bulletproof vests, a fine selection of machine guns and machine guns, vehicles, maps, and free communication ..
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 20 February 2018 17: 33
              +8
              Quote: Tiras
              And how did they get to Syria? Who delivered them there? Gave weapons, security?

              What's your business?
              Quote: Tiras
              Do they hold fools for people?

              Previously, during the Union, you weren’t personally informed of such events? Who is there and what is there? This is not supposed to be, that is, a state secret (interest)! And now you still arrange tantrums like ladies yes require something fellow Do you seriously think that someone should explain something to you? For me, a smart person will understand it himself, but there’s no time a provocateur!
              1. Lieutenant Captain
                Lieutenant Captain 20 February 2018 17: 36
                +5
                Quote: You Vlad
                Previously, during the Union, you were not informed of such events, who is there and what!

                Then there was no tyrnet.
                1. You Vlad
                  You Vlad 20 February 2018 17: 38
                  +4
                  Quote: Lieutenant Captain
                  Then there was no tyrnet.

                  Well, yes! Well, now every gopher agronomist teaches, teaches and teaches how to govern the country, but how to fight more correctly fellow
                  1. Lieutenant Captain
                    Lieutenant Captain 20 February 2018 18: 12
                    +7
                    Quote: You Vlad
                    Well, now every gopher agronomist teaches, teaches and teaches how to govern a country, but how to fight more correctly

                    Many are mistaken, and most importantly, they believe in their errors. wink
              2. BARKHAN
                BARKHAN 20 February 2018 18: 55
                +8
                Quote: You Vlad
                Previously, during the Union, you weren’t personally informed of such events? Well, who is there and what is there? It is not allowed, that is, a state secret

                War is coming soon. It’s time to get used to having to use less language and very carefully filter what is spoken and written ... And there will be a “ban” at the red brick wall for disclosure. information kills themselves, get into accidents and other fatal troubles in batches and regularly ... For example, for Hilary Clinton, a train of corpses, as if the skating rink had passed through the crowd ....
              3. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 21 February 2018 03: 35
                +2
                Quote: You Vlad
                Previously, during the Union you were not personally informed of such events?

                Yes, he would have been under the Union for such reasoning and poking his nose in the wrong case, would have failed !!! repeat repeat here were good times, not like right now, I have to listen to these trolls !!! am am lol lol lol
        2. x.andvlad
          x.andvlad 20 February 2018 16: 36
          0
          Do you know for sure that you didn’t?
          1. Anarchist
            Anarchist 20 February 2018 16: 39
            +7
            Right! Or can you refute it? Every Sunday I look through what our lawmakers invent ... There are many questions, but not here. Not now!
            1. x.andvlad
              x.andvlad 20 February 2018 16: 51
              +1
              I think that when legalizing the activities of PMCs, they legally made it so that they did not fall under this law. And most likely this is linked to the fact that they work for the state and its interests.
              Otherwise, these guys would not have visited the Kremlin.
              Quote: Anarchist
              Every Sunday I look through what our lawmakers invent.

              Apparently, not all legal documents you have the opportunity to read. Especially some internal departmental instructions and orders.
              1. Anarchist
                Anarchist 20 February 2018 17: 11
                +7
                What, nafig, instructions and orders? There is a law! It is not encrypted! It is binding!
                1. Kent0001
                  Kent0001 20 February 2018 18: 43
                  +3
                  Stubbornness is not the best character trait. I explain: there are such Interests of the State when they do not look at the Laws, more precisely, these interests are removed from the Laws. After all, you can’t kill? So? But remember the ice ax in one troubled head and sweets from Kiev from colleagues, and maybe tea in a London cafe. not we came up with it and not only we use IT. And those who were there and some of these people died, is one of the tools to promote the interests of the State. For this, I think the topic is exhausted and closed.
                  1. Anarchist
                    Anarchist 20 February 2018 18: 50
                    +6
                    Quote: Kent0001
                    interests derive from the Laws

                    This is a special feature of our policy towards the aligarhat!
                    That is why the law must always be followed! Even in spite of the fact that the "Right" (those who are for the righteous cause) suffer ...
                    1. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek 21 February 2018 03: 39
                      0
                      Quote: Anarchist
                      This is a special feature of our policy towards the aligarhat!
                      That is why the law must always be followed! Even in spite of the fact that the "Right" (those who are for the righteous cause) suffer ...

                      recourse recourse recourse your "name" fundamentally does not correspond to the state-political principles stated by you !!! wassat wassat lol lol lol
                  2. bane's jacket
                    bane's jacket 20 February 2018 20: 01
                    +3
                    Quote: Kent0001
                    I explain: there are such interests of the state when they do not look at the laws, or rather, these interests are removed from the laws ..

                    Is everything in Russia the same as for bad Americans? request
                    and maybe tea in a London cafe.

                    Many people are aware of this. lol
        3. kapitan92
          kapitan92 20 February 2018 16: 44
          +12
          Quote: Anarchist
          Note. A mercenary is a person who is acting for the purpose of receiving material remuneration and who is not a citizen of a state participating in an armed conflict or military actions, who does not reside permanently on its territory, and who is not a person who is assigned to perform official duties.

          And why do you think that between the Syrian authorities and the "Wagner organization" I am writing an organization, because PMC most likely does not sound in official documents. So, the Syrian government enters into an agreement on the provision of security services and transfers funds.
          Takes the armament of this organization and the tactical "leadership".
          In this case, one can explain the participation of the Wagnerites in squeezing the refinery. For war, you need money, salaries of the same specialists, economic recovery, etc.
          Therefore, do not rush the words "mercenary"! hi
          1. Anarchist
            Anarchist 20 February 2018 16: 48
            +8
            Quote: kapitan92
            Contract for the provision of security services and transfers funds.

            who took part in the clash in the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic
            Quote: Anarchist
            The key definition of a mercenary is “a person acting in in order to obtain material compensation"

            You need to learn to call a spade a spade!
            1. kapitan92
              kapitan92 20 February 2018 16: 55
              +11
              Quote: Anarchist
              who took part in the clash in the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic

              How do you know that they took part in the clashes? They guarded the DaZ quarters or the monuments of Palmyra. laughing
              When attacking spirits, they certainly performed their functions. laughing
              We don’t know much: who patronizes the Wagnerites, who pays how, etc.
              Recent events and conjectures once again show that the law on PMCs in the Russian Federation is long overdue, only our little thoughts have been pulling “rubber” since 2015. hi
              1. Anarchist
                Anarchist 20 February 2018 16: 59
                +9
                Quote: kapitan92
                How do you know that they took part in the clashes?

                Because the Foreign Ministry said this! - "those who took part in the clash in the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic." Can't read?
                1. kapitan92
                  kapitan92 20 February 2018 17: 03
                  +7
                  Quote: Anarchist
                  Because the Foreign Ministry said this! - "those who took part in the clash in the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic."

                  The performance of security functions implies alleged clashes.
                  Quote: Anarchist
                  Can't read?

                  Have you forgotten how to think?
                  1. Anarchist
                    Anarchist 20 February 2018 17: 13
                    +9
                    Read the law on the guards, there is not a word about the clashes!
                    Quote: kapitan92
                    Have you forgotten how to think?

                    This is about you! I do not advise you to get personal ...
          2. x.andvlad
            x.andvlad 20 February 2018 17: 02
            +5
            Quote: kapitan92
            Therefore, do not rush the words "mercenary"!

            Do not worry so. This is from the area of ​​comparing the "scout" and the "spy." Just, while not everyone is used to it yet.
            1. kapitan92
              kapitan92 20 February 2018 17: 08
              +6
              Quote: x.andvlad
              Do not worry so. This is from the area of ​​comparing the "scout" and the "spy." Just, while not everyone is used to it yet.

              Yes, I actually do not worry. For some "mujahideen" for others, "partisans", we live in difficult times! hi
        4. Oleg
          Oleg 20 February 2018 16: 51
          +7
          Citizens of the Russian Federation acting on the territory of the SAR in order to receive material remuneration, not permanently residing on its territory, not being persons sent to perform official duties (who knows that there are "official" duties), are citizens of a state participating in an armed conflict or hostilities. Or will someone deny the participation of the Russian Federation in the conflict in the SAR on completely legitimate grounds? Well, then what mercenary? De jure...
          1. Anarchist
            Anarchist 20 February 2018 16: 57
            +6
            Quote: Oleg Viktorovich
            De jure...

            Freedom to Yuri Detochkin? And what to do with "our" Sunnis?
        5. Kent0001
          Kent0001 20 February 2018 18: 38
          +1
          Like in that movie: "what are your proofs? We are in no way guilty of anything." By the way, the phrase at the same time and age checking laughing
          1. Anarchist
            Anarchist 20 February 2018 18: 53
            +5
            Quote: Kent0001
            "what is your proof? We are not guilty of anything or anything." By the way, the phrase at the same time and age checking

            "Red heat"! Here age can vary greatly ... In the early nineties, this movie was watched by both old and young!
        6. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 21 February 2018 03: 26
          +1
          Quote: Anarchist
          There is a law on mercenarism! And according to the law everyone needs to be judged ... The law must always be fulfilled!

          and what will this court look like ??? belay belay belay Well, imagine how Euro-American propagandists use such a lawsuit !!! fool wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing Of course, I understand that the law is above all, but sometimes it is necessary to use common sense !!! request request request and then such zealous use of justice, you can ruin the country !!! tongue tongue lol lol lol
      2. purple
        purple 20 February 2018 17: 15
        0
        Well, if it's stupid, it's hard ... I sympathize
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 20 February 2018 16: 25
      +2
      does not eat chicken
      more precisely not iron.
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 20 February 2018 17: 47
        0
        Quote: Gardamir
        more precisely not iron

        How did you get in unison lol
    3. DMB_95
      DMB_95 20 February 2018 16: 31
      +1
      Quote: graf1980
      well, and how to understand this, we cannot openly acknowledge

      Units in which non-military personnel of the Russian Federation serve do exist for such actions. Officially, they can say nothing at all about their losses, and those who serve there in advance know about it. This is a world practice that we did not invent. Cynical, of course.
    4. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 20 February 2018 16: 32
      +5
      Dear, no one ever openly voices such information.
      You do not get tired that in Russia there are volunteers to fight? Or the fact that they sometimes die? So they have always been. And the fact that they sometimes die is natural, because you understand this, not a camping trip.
  2. Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 20 February 2018 16: 17
    +9
    Well, what can I say ... Recovery from wounded soldiers! The war, her mother is so .....
    1. k174oun7
      k174oun7 20 February 2018 16: 55
      +2
      Masha inaccurately expressed herself. They were not there for different purposes, but for the purpose of exterminating the terrorists who were fed and stabbed by overseas "partners". And this is the same purpose for which the military personnel of the Russian Federation are in Syria. They fight there, sometimes get injured and die. In addition, it didn’t sound like ours were hit by a U.S. strike. We got another unpunished stab in the back. So they need to be properly covered by military air defense, and equipped with MANPADS.
  3. bane's jacket
    bane's jacket 20 February 2018 16: 17
    +5
    We are talking about the Russians, as confirmed by the Russian Foreign Ministry, who took part in the clash on the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic

    Suddenly...
  4. Loess
    Loess 20 February 2018 16: 19
    +6
    Stranger and weirder ...
  5. taiga2018
    taiga2018 20 February 2018 16: 20
    +3
    Well, at least so, than nothing, and now, than never ...
    1. twviewer
      twviewer 20 February 2018 16: 46
      +8
      "She drowned" (c)
      only this time without a commission, for how will this electorate gobble up Evo.
  6. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 20 February 2018 16: 21
    +21
    Secretly to come to another distant country, secretly fight, secretly die, secretly be buried, and your own country does not even recognize the fact of your death ... Well, yes, she did not send you there. That you yourself decided so. It is possible that he managed to earn a little and send home, posthumously the family will get something else ... Anyway, I can not digest it. Man, I'm not young, apparently, with me, my views are outdated ...
    Bless the memory of all the children who died there ...
    The fastest recovery wounded.
    1. You Vlad
      You Vlad 20 February 2018 17: 54
      +1
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Secretly come to a foreign country, secretly fight, die secretly, be buried secretly, and your own country does not even recognize the fact of your death ... Well, yes, it was not she who sent you there. You yourself decided so for yourself.

      Well, this is your policy of double standards! You do not find?
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 20 February 2018 19: 18
        +8
        Quote: you Vlad

        Well, this is your policy of double standards! You do not find?

        The double standard is when some of their dead citizens are called heroes and awarded posthumously, while they turn away from others, shamefully hide their eyes, tell some ridiculous stories and do not even recognize their own. You do not find?
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 20 February 2018 19: 31
          +8
          On the one hand, to allow and encourage the existence of PMCs, and on the other, to have an article
          for which mercenary is a criminal offense. (Participation in hostilities in the territory of another state is punishable by money for three to seven years in prison.) This is a double standard. You do not find?
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 20 February 2018 19: 43
            0
            Quote: A. Privalov
            On the one hand, to allow and encourage the existence of PMCs, and on the other, to have an article

            This is not the point!
            You as a side began to move away ..
            1. A. Privalov
              A. Privalov 20 February 2018 19: 52
              +4
              Quote: you Vlad

              This is not the point!
              You as a side began to move away ..

              I clearly and directly expressed my opinion on the topic of the article. Clearly expressed his feelings towards the dead and wounded. This is the essence. You began to look for some "double standards" in my words. So who is moving away? Do not throw the blame on a healthy, respected.
              1. You Vlad
                You Vlad 20 February 2018 20: 05
                0
                Quote: A. Privalov
                You began to look in my words for some kind of "double standards"

                Well, let's try again! As I see it, you live in Israel and what PMCs you should understand! In the West, PMCs work is a given and tradition! So when they are put down, well, let's say in Ukraine, well, no one remembers them in the West, it doesn’t express any concerns and articles even in a seedy newspaper can’t be written! And why do you reproach our leadership?
          2. You Vlad
            You Vlad 20 February 2018 19: 53
            0
            Quote: You Vlad
            And what do we hear a lot from our Western partners about the losses of their PMCs?

            And many of them died yes
            So they are these Westerners, too, this
            Quote: A. Privalov
            Secretly come to a foreign country, secretly fight, die secretly, be buried secretly, and your own country does not even recognize the fact of your death ... Well, yes, it was not she who sent you there. You yourself decided so for yourself. It is possible that he managed to earn a little money and send it home, the family will receive something else posthumously ..

            Or what is supposed to be for Jupiter, is it not for the bull?
        2. You Vlad
          You Vlad 20 February 2018 19: 36
          0
          Quote: A. Privalov
          Double standard

          This is when for some the right it is possible, but for us it
          Quote: A. Privalov
          this is when some of their dead citizens are called heroes and awarded posthumously, and turn away from others, shyly hide their eyes, tell some ridiculous stories and do not even recognize their

          Do you know how many western PMCs are fighting in Ukraine and Syria? And what much do we hear from our western partners about the losses of their PMCs?
    2. bane's jacket
      bane's jacket 20 February 2018 19: 38
      +7
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Secretly come to a foreign country, secretly fight, die secretly, be buried secretly, and your own country does not even recognize the fact of your death ..

  7. BVS
    BVS 20 February 2018 16: 22
    +9
    Forced message, and with a long delay. I liked the passage about citizens of the CIS countries - mm assistance was provided for returning to Russia where, as far as we know, they undergo treatment courses in various medical institutions.
    That is, now, if somewhere around the globe citizens of the CIS countries suffer, the Russian Federation will provide assistance to return to Russia where, they will undergo treatment in medical institutions. And probably for free. And their transportation will also be free.
    Cool!
    1. purple
      purple 20 February 2018 17: 18
      0
      it has always been so, CIS citizens are always saved and taken out, from everywhere
  8. AntiFREEZ
    AntiFREEZ 20 February 2018 16: 23
    +4
    there are wounded - there are several dozen

    The peasants got into a sick kneading.
    I wish you all a speedy recovery.
  9. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 20 February 2018 16: 24
    +9
    First, no, then a couple of people died, then a few Russians, then several dozen were injured, well, then the next publication about a couple of hundred ... And of course you need to "blur" the picture, they say this is not a PMC Wagner, but .... in common. Ugh, the guys died and they * zali admit it. negative
    1. purple
      purple 20 February 2018 17: 20
      +4
      guys for the oligarchs who died who wanted oil, where does Russia? Purely a business contract, you’ll squeeze out how to get loot in the 90s, it’s just that the roof was steeper for the Kurds
  10. Gardamir
    Gardamir 20 February 2018 16: 28
    +4
    providing assistance to Russian citizens who suffered in Syria.
    after treatment, they will go under article 208
  11. Waterfowl
    Waterfowl 20 February 2018 16: 30
    +7
    Quote: A. Privalov
    н

    I do not think your views are out of date. I think people in military uniform with outdated views are sitting in the General Staff.
    To what extent is my Russia weak, which, if desired, cannot give an answer !?
    1. nik-karata
      nik-karata 21 February 2018 07: 34
      +1
      To what extent is my Russia weak, which, if desired, cannot give an answer !?

      To answer such a state as the United States, at least you need steel eggs, and a strong army. The army, it seems, is ... but with the rest of the problem. Not mature enough yet. Unfortunately. request
      Earth down dead.
      A speedy recovery to the wounded.
  12. Some kind of compote
    Some kind of compote 20 February 2018 16: 30
    +16
    Even dozens
    Yeah
  13. samarin1969
    samarin1969 20 February 2018 16: 34
    +7
    The statement, one another is “foggy” ... that it’s like “in a certain kingdom, in a certain state” ... Let “5 persons” and dozens of wounded be killed ... Well, let the Foreign Ministry announce to us enemies without quotes, the perpetrators of their death and wounds ... The country should know its heroes, antiheroes and enemies .... And so - this is some kind of "brain meldonium."
  14. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 20 February 2018 16: 35
    +12
    Some batch participant reported (as if by way of exception),
    that of the 550 PMC fighters who went into battle, "about 200 came back whole, without injuries."
    From this it can be assumed that there were about 300 killed and wounded.
    1. nik-karata
      nik-karata 21 February 2018 07: 40
      +1
      All "Your Information" about hundreds of dead WAGNER troops was originally from the Outskirts, which hundreds "laid down" the Buryat horse-drawn armored divisions. Then came the wave of BBS, Bloomberg, Echo, and other trash that listen-watch means to treat yourself with minimal respect. Not long ago, the day before yesterday, Andrey Troshev (PMC Wagner) explained that “it’s enough to wind snot on the enemy’s mill,” and said that 14 fighters were killed. He also said that no one had abandoned or betrayed them.
      Interesting? Internet to help you.
  15. ShM05
    ShM05 20 February 2018 16: 52
    +13
    Shooters turned out to be right, slowly the truth will still come up, no matter how the Foreign Ministry and the Ministry of Defense try to drown out the information, crap specifically, that’s why it’s necessary to give out information in parts, wounded health, and condolences to the dead.
    1. serg999
      serg999 20 February 2018 18: 47
      0
      Who "crap"?
  16. demo
    demo 20 February 2018 17: 07
    +7
    I do not know.
    They sent a video.
    If this is about ours, from the so-called Wagner, then I sympathize with them.
    Beat, really, like a partridge.
    And not a single MANPADS. It seems that those who steered by helicopters knew about this for sure.
    1. AntiFREEZ
      AntiFREEZ 20 February 2018 18: 20
      +1
      Quote: demo
      They sent a video.

      Share with everyone. Let's see, think, discuss.
    2. serg999
      serg999 20 February 2018 18: 49
      +2
      Quote: demo
      I do not know.
      They sent a video.
      If this is about ours, from the so-called Wagner, then I sympathize with them.
      Beat, really, like a partridge.
      And not a single MANPADS. It seems that those who steered by helicopters knew about this for sure.

      So share it. If not a chatterbox of course ...
      1. Disant
        Disant 20 February 2018 20: 55
        0
        so they can only cluck. sent, just can’t figure it out - this is a video or a computer game. and what country
    3. nik-karata
      nik-karata 21 February 2018 07: 42
      +1
      I watched this video))) lol
      I will disappoint you! This is a cut from a computer war .......
  17. gorgo
    gorgo 20 February 2018 17: 12
    +6
    Generally, of course ... No, I understand that I don’t see a hundredth of the picture, and they know better there, but ... Guys, well, there are diplomatic politicians and "it’s so accepted", no one can officially say that the USA is an enemy, eg. Only a partner - no more. but everyone understands everything. So it is here. You may not officially recognize, etc., but everyone understands everything too. They understand that people with weapons from Russia just wouldn’t get into Syria. They understand that they performed those tasks that for various reasons the personnel officers could not perform. Ours and those from the other side understand this. Well, what do you look like after that? They spat in your face, and you wiped yourself off and diplomatically stated that we didn’t spit in the face, but didn’t spit on us, but on other people who are undergoing rehabilitation. Ok, but everyone saw and understood everything ...
    I don’t know, of course, the situation is very complicated, and probably it’s not the time now to wave our fists, but ... as they say, he called himself a load - climb! Scream at every step that we are hoo! what an end to world hegemon! Hooray! But after such snotty explanations and wipes, the liberal public will have one more reason to laugh at Russia "rising from its knees."
    Frankly speaking, it’s a little disgusting from such explanations. It’s better to be silent. You’ll seem smarter.
  18. MadCat
    MadCat 20 February 2018 17: 15
    +16
    Strelkov was right in everything, the nanogeny from the Moscow Region screwed up to the fullest.
    1. AntiFREEZ
      AntiFREEZ 20 February 2018 18: 22
      +2
      Quote: MadCat
      Strelkov was right in everything

      And how he was sprinkled on this resource in the first days sad
      1. nik-karata
        nik-karata 21 February 2018 07: 44
        +1
        He, unfortunately, has been “sprinkled” on this resource for a long time and unjustly.
        Say, it’s he prosralvsepolymers.
  19. KonoGon
    KonoGon 20 February 2018 17: 18
    +10
    It would be interesting to hear the representatives of the clan who yelled "We were not there and not here" on the pages of the site. A week has not passed, and you can raise it, mother of it.
  20. serge siberian
    serge siberian 20 February 2018 17: 20
    +4
    The truth always pops up, Sooner or later, but still pops up. And also, "Better is a bitter truth than a sweet lie." And the current government has taken the very last as the basis of its activity. I’m thinking, “will I live to see open and truthful information.
  21. Hort
    Hort 20 February 2018 17: 33
    +6
    Recall that earlier, Maria Zakharova, during a briefing, noted that in Syria “five Russians who were not military personnel could have died”
    her aunt has lately lately. Laurels of Psaki do not let you see ...

    In hindsight, they recognized ...
  22. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 20 February 2018 17: 34
    +2
    Quote: Gardamir
    providing assistance to Russian citizens who suffered in Syria.
    after treatment, they will go under article 208


    Yes, it’s straight, we are talking about wounded Russians in general. For the whole time of the war in Syria, it can be businessmen, tourists, journalists, simple hard workers, employees of transport or fuel companies and many others. Of course, everyone wants to see PMC employees in this number. But alas , these fighters undergo treatment in hospitals of the Ministry of Defense, so that the info on them will be closed. So do not flatter yourself.
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 20 February 2018 17: 58
      +1
      Quote: Xscorpion
      Yes, it’s straight, it’s all about the wounded Russians. For the whole time of the war in Syria, it can be businessmen, tourists, journalists, simple hard workers, employees of transport or fuel companies and many others.


      During the recent military clashin which the military personnel of the Russian Federation did not participate in any way and regular technical means were not used, there are dead citizens of Russia and the CIS countries, as already mentioned, there are wounded - there are several dozen of them.
  23. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 20 February 2018 17: 43
    +2
    Quote: bvs
    Forced message, and with a long delay. I liked the passage about citizens of the CIS countries - mm assistance was provided for returning to Russia where, as far as we know, they undergo treatment courses in various medical institutions.
    That is, now, if somewhere around the globe citizens of the CIS countries suffer, the Russian Federation will provide assistance to return to Russia where, they will undergo treatment in medical institutions. And probably for free. And their transportation will also be free.
    Cool!


    Well, in general, this is always done and not only with respect to CIS citizens. You will be surprised, but there are constantly thousands of people from different countries who do not have Russian citizenship in Russian medical institutions who were brought there for free from different parts of the world where emergencies occurred. This is normal phenomenon for civilized countries.
  24. rumpeljschtizhen
    rumpeljschtizhen 20 February 2018 17: 50
    +3
    Well, that’s the truth and it turns out that I’m the koba of 5-6 dead .....
  25. stylet
    stylet 20 February 2018 18: 40
    0
    Here is another version of this event. https://youtu.be/4_NsWXfSlCQ
  26. Separ
    Separ 20 February 2018 18: 54
    +2
    These are all our Russian people and do not shrug them off. In Afghanistan, during the storming of Amin’s palace, they also at first said about the same thing: "... the military personnel of the Soviet Army didn’t participate in any way ..", and then it turned out that the heroes were more abrupt than any "nausea cats". I will look forward to our reply on the type of all sorts of "seals"
    1. bane's jacket
      bane's jacket 20 February 2018 19: 43
      +1
      Quote: Separ
      . I will look forward to our reply on the type of all sorts of "seals"

      I hope that the Russian Ministry of Defense will first ask the Americans if it is their military personnel, and only after receiving the answer that they don’t, will they hit these “nausea cats”? repeat
  27. Graz
    Graz 20 February 2018 19: 15
    0
    the question is when will we hit the Americans?
    change must always be given, and the Foreign Ministry has been chewing snot for the last 2 years in such cases
    1. nik-karata
      nik-karata 21 February 2018 07: 47
      +2
      I'm afraid there will be no change.
      After the Supreme said that if fights can not be avoided, then you must beat first ...... and that we are now observing ....
      What kind of change are you actually talking about? In monetary terms ???
  28. Normal ok
    Normal ok 20 February 2018 19: 19
    +4
    They are not there. However, the wounded were taken out. Miracle however.
  29. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 20 February 2018 19: 47
    +1
    Quote: Dym71
    Quote: Xscorpion
    Yes, it’s straight, it’s all about the wounded Russians. For the whole time of the war in Syria, it can be businessmen, tourists, journalists, simple hard workers, employees of transport or fuel companies and many others.


    During the recent military clashin which the military personnel of the Russian Federation did not participate in any way and regular technical means were not used, there are dead citizens of Russia and the CIS countries, as already mentioned, there are wounded - there are several dozen of them.


    I already wrote who it was. During the time of the Chechen companies, there were also a lot of dead Russian citizens, on both sides. There are also a lot of Russian citizens in the Nazi battalions in Donbass, even famous actors. Even in the French Foreign Legion, many Russian citizens serve. And in hundreds of other countries there are also citizens of the Russian Federation. Wherever there are embassies of Russia, their representative offices, enterprises, or in a language that you understand, a gas or oil pipe passes through, everywhere there will be Russian citizens .. And they happen to die. And read the original of this news. it says that rather soon means the recent blow of the Americans. Then just 3 answers to 3 different questions were combined into one and removed too much for a sensation.
  30. cats
    cats 20 February 2018 20: 27
    +5
    It’s just a holiday for whiners ... Yes, they’re not iron, but they kill .. Jewish friends may be excusable ... But those who consider themselves Russian are not dumb? I am ashamed of them for their homeland ... Go have a drink and cry to your wife ..
    Admins you get accomplices, this Sabbath ... There are no minuses ... And in komenty continuous trolls ..
  31. gsev
    gsev 20 February 2018 22: 06
    +1
    And why tell how many died and injured. This is a military secret. American intelligence will give a lot for obtaining accurate data. Here the liberal press is trying to earn extra money.
    1. rumpeljschtizhen
      rumpeljschtizhen 22 February 2018 16: 01
      0
      yes for sure .... they still live in the 19th century (there is no data of objective control)
  32. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 20 February 2018 23: 56
    -1
    Quote: Anarchist
    You need to learn to call a spade a spade!

    The policy in our country is capitalist (roughly speaking, man to man is a wolf), and among people consciousness is still quite socialist (friend, comrade and brother).
    The rulers skillfully use this - they themselves eat everyone without hesitation (also a hired army to solve oil interests), and for the people they periodically include an old record ... the fraternal people of Ukraine, the Syrians, or even the Serbs.
    Tired of the two-facedness of the authorities.
  33. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 21 February 2018 00: 24
    +2
    Quote: kunstkammer
    Quote: Anarchist
    You need to learn to call a spade a spade!

    The policy in our country is capitalist (roughly speaking, man to man is a wolf), and among people consciousness is still quite socialist (friend, comrade and brother).
    The rulers skillfully use this - they themselves eat everyone without hesitation (also a hired army to solve oil interests), and for the people they periodically include an old record ... the fraternal people of Ukraine, the Syrians, or even the Serbs.
    Tired of the two-facedness of the authorities.

    and I also want to add:
    Now there is an election campaign and the rulers have included an old record for the people: Ah, Grudinin has an account in a Western bank!
    The people were dumbfounded. Where does the simple capitalist have an account? Horror! Right zrada.
    But the fact that in a capitalist country a business person does not have such accounts (and not one) is simply impossible - how is it? Ask Putin's entire camarilla - how many of them or their households have such accounts? Modestly downcast eyes - blue budget thieves.
    Grudinin is the same capitalist as others, but nationally oriented. He needs to sell his kulubnik here, and for this it is necessary that the people have money not only for bread and water, but also for their perishable goods.
    But Miller, Sechin or Gref more important opinion in the West - their business is not for their people. They need people to live better in the West and use their services.
    Putin's effective friends steal in Russia and take the whole country out for sale.
    I am for Grudinin! Even though he is a capitalist. With the new Morozov and Tretyakov, we will raise the country. But with Kudrins and Naibulin, Russia has no future.
    1. You Vlad
      You Vlad 21 February 2018 07: 20
      +1
      Quote: kunstkammer
      Even though he is a capitalist. With the new Morozov and Tretyakov, we will raise the country. But with Kudrins and Naibulin, Russia has no future.

      You’re not raising a country, but from a country! Your poor communist has pasted the whole city with us fellow
  34. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 21 February 2018 00: 49
    +1
    Our gangster power remembered its stormy youth and began to use its gangster methods already abroad. PMCs are bandits, forgotten in the 90's. Then, many also went into bandits because of hopelessness.
    Not PMCs - The Cheka must be created and nurtured by rewards. And to pay a decent salary in the Russian army. Such as these mercenaries - from 500 to 2, 5 thousand dollars a day in the war. And not 150 thousand rubles as a dead Russian pilot - a hero.
  35. Whisper
    Whisper 21 February 2018 01: 48
    0
    Or maybe it’s already the return line has arrived for us, but are we waiting for retaliation?
  36. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 21 February 2018 12: 39
    -1
    Quote: gorgo
    there are diplomatic politesses and “it’s so accepted,” no one can officially say that the United States is an enemy, for example. Only a partner - no more. but everyone understands everything.

    "I do not understand ..." (c)
    If visitors appeared on the military site with an uncomplicated consciousness of stubborn poetsfists ... or fiercely tender gentle ladies ... my greetings to them!
    To others ... not doubting .. I would like to say: brothers, I understand your tendency to “FAQ,” and unwavering fidelity to a great giraffe chief who is always and ever more visible. And therefore - by default in the unaccountable
    The past 80 and 90 years have forever got rid of unnecessary illusions about power ... and indeed from other misconceptions acquired in the Soviet Army.
    Persistent joyful and voluptuous groans about our zapodny partners remind us of the time before the Great Patriotic War - the Hitlerites are our faithful and reliable partners and ... we don’t dare think otherwise! Well, then there was at least a non-aggression pact with this fierce enemy. Now what do we have in the standings? NATO tanks in Narva!
    Or is it also tailor tanks? And carnations fly out of them!