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Turkey threatens Syria with war

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Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt авavushoglu threatened the Syrian army with military actions if it supports the Kurdish formations in Afrin, the Turkish television channel NTV reported.


Turkey threatens Syria with war


Continuing his words about the fact that Turkey does not see problems in entering the city of Syrian government troops, if they clear the region of the Kurdish armed detachments of national self-defense (YPG), Cavusoglu added:

If they protect the YPG from us, no one will stop Turkey and Turkish soldiers. (...) This is also valid for Manbij and the territory east of the Euphrates
- stressed Cavusoglu.

At the same time, there is information that the Turkish army launched a massive artillery bombardment of Afrin in order to prevent the entry of Syrian troops into the area, Lebanese online publication Al-Masdar News reports.

According to the newspaper, shots are heard in the cities of Harbul and Tell-Rifat and beyond, as well as in a number of villages along the road. It leads to Afrin from territory under the control of the Syrian government army.
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  1. Herculesic
    Herculesic 19 February 2018 18: 01
    +20
    Masks reset! This is to be expected!
    1. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 19 February 2018 18: 15
      +16
      It seems to be coming to this, the American scenario.
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 19 February 2018 18: 23
        +4
        Quote: ul_vitalii
        It seems to be coming to this, the American scenario.

        It’s just that he doesn’t interfere with him going to meet the American formations, let the killer fight The main thing is not to sit down over the heart and Amertsev managed to paint. But Assad does the right thing, how can he be blamed now: he’s supposedly left you wink Well, he could not, could not request
      2. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 19 February 2018 18: 26
        +23
        Turkey threatens Syria with war

        Turkey is throwing dust in the eyes of the Americans: it is much more profitable for the Kurds to fall under Syrian rule - then they will not be able to oppose Turkey. Thus, the Turks seem to show the United States that they are not fighting the Kurds. Now, if the Syrians take Afrin, the Turks will be able to redirect their troops to another place. So all Kurds will slowly flow under Assad’s wing! Who will the United States rely on in Syria? Here is such, I think, a multi-way!
        1. Alex-a832
          Alex-a832 19 February 2018 19: 55
          +14
          I support your opinion. From the very beginning, it more and more resembles a play for the USA and Kurds. If Russia conducts a show from a prompter's box, then everything will go smoothly, they will not cling. And if not, then the performance may come out with natural scuffle.
          1. Dmitry Belovetsky
            Dmitry Belovetsky 20 February 2018 05: 19
            +14
            Why America justification if they are occupiers and instigators?
            Why can America fight in Syria without any justification for it!? (Fighting terrorists is ridiculous!)
            Why can Turkey fight in Syria without any justification for it!? (Fighting Kurds is a bluff).
            Why is Israel bombing Syria without any justification for it!? (Iran's drone is babble).
            Because there is no Khrushchev's "Kuzkina mother"!
            1. Tiksi-3
              Tiksi-3 20 February 2018 07: 38
              +2
              Quote: Dmitry Belovetsky
              Why is Israel bombing Syria without any justification for it!?

              they have every right to bomb - a state of war ... the Syrians can also deliver air strikes against Israel
              Quote: Dmitry Belovetsky
              Why can America fight in Syria without any justification for it!? (Fighting terrorists is ridiculous!)

              there is a reason - the law on the fight against terror anywhere in the world
              Quote: Dmitry Belovetsky
              Why can Turkey fight in Syria without any justification for it!? (Fighting Kurds is a bluff).

              there is a reason - in the person of the Russian Federation ... we gave them the opportunity to send troops !!
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 20 February 2018 12: 07
          +1
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          SRC P-15

          hi
          In my opinion, none of the actors in this drama knows what to do next. The preference will be given to those who develop a clear plan for themselves (observing their interests) and will implement it consistently and persistently. Given the arrogance of Americans and Turks, Assad + Russia will not be easy, and it will be necessary for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defense to exert maximum efforts to squeeze out uninvited "guests" from the territory of Syria, we have only one advantage here - we act with the invitation of the UN member government and with approval this very UN. As for the Kurds, they are only a bargaining chip in this game, and they will either feed them or betray them depending on the situation. yes
      3. Safevi
        Safevi 19 February 2018 18: 40
        +11
        But Turkey should calmly watch how the Kurds can get away from just retribution? If Assad did not know what, when the Kurds built entire underground cities using reinforced concrete (they are discovered by Turkish troops every day), it was clearly not one year when the Kurds expelled Assad’s troops, when the Kurds supported separatists from the PKK, sowing death and destruction in Turkish cities. then be prepared for the fact that someone else will restore order instead of you. Turks do not use all their firepower yet. So they’ve been standing near Ginderes for 4-5 days, but they’re not making any bombing. But if the Asadites come to the aid of the Kurds, this will already mean a total war. in which Assad clearly does not shine. I do not think that Russia will support Assad in such a matter.
        1. KonoGon
          KonoGon 19 February 2018 18: 59
          +4
          Quote: sefevi
          I do not think that Russia will support Assad in such a matter.
          And whom and how do you think she will support?
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 19 February 2018 19: 10
            +4
            Quote: KonoGon
            And whom and how do you think she will support?

            We are slowly supporting everyone there, but we are fighting the terrorists yes
            1. Dmitry Belovetsky
              Dmitry Belovetsky 20 February 2018 05: 22
              +12
              Solovyov’s silence about Syria ... it seems everyone shouted before that Syria and our friends and Turkey and the Kurds .. and now what? God forbid, Kiev and Donbass make peace - where to Solovyov, Mikheev, Satanovsky and Company .. Retire?
            2. KonoGon
              KonoGon 20 February 2018 14: 07
              0
              Quote: You Vlad
              We are slowly supporting everyone there.
              Che and the terrorists too? Caution with definitions.
          2. okko077
            okko077 19 February 2018 19: 42
            +3
            What's the problem? We will learn from pi_ndosov. We will call these units in a new way and leave them in place, but we will say to everyone that they are not there — they evaporated, and these are completely different, white and fluffy ...
            1. Dmitry Belovetsky
              Dmitry Belovetsky 20 February 2018 05: 23
              +11
              It is necessary to drive the Turks into Turkish territory, otherwise they will get stuck in Syria, as in Northern Cyprus for a long time.
              1. sogdy
                sogdy 20 February 2018 06: 07
                +1
                Quote: Dmitry Belovetsky
                It’s necessary to drive the Turks into Turkish territory,

                Stratig, adnaka. I would even say ArchiStratig!
          3. genisis
            genisis 20 February 2018 18: 34
            0
            And whom and how do you think she will support?

            Clear business Azerbaijan, who else?
        2. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 19 February 2018 19: 02
          +4
          Quote: sefevi
          Turks do not use all their firepower yet.

          judging by the Turkish losses, if you start using your "firepower" for all-out power, your losses will increase by an order of magnitude !!! request request
          1. Dmitry Belovetsky
            Dmitry Belovetsky 20 February 2018 05: 24
            +10
            A difficult situevina comes out ...
            And the Syrians bros and Turks bros.
            Kurds are not bros.
            Maybe they give you peace and tranquility, accidentally bomb them on figs?
            Then the little brothers will remain little brothers, you can wipe your nose, and fresh tomatoes will go to the store, and the problem will be solved ...
            1. genisis
              genisis 20 February 2018 18: 34
              0
              Turks brother

              Maybe you and bros.
              How long has it been?
        3. Don
          Don 19 February 2018 19: 02
          +3
          Quote: sefevi
          But if the Asadites come to the aid of the Kurds, this will already mean a total war. in which Assad clearly does not shine. I do not think that Russia will support Assad in such a matter.

          Calm down, Russia will not get involved in a war with Turkey or the United States over Syria. We have our goals there. There are maximum - the preservation of a single pro-Russian Syria, led by Assad. Minimum - Assad control of the coast and key cities, which has already been practically achieved, except for Idlib. It’s just that the situation has become so complicated that everyone is trying to catch his fish in this muddy water.
          1. Warrior with machine gun
            Warrior with machine gun 19 February 2018 19: 36
            +4
            Yes, and the "friend of the Sultan" as Ostap suffered, in this situation, "international law" looks like comics))
          2. Dmitry Belovetsky
            Dmitry Belovetsky 20 February 2018 05: 24
            +11
            A reasonable question arises, why did Turkey not recognize the Isil terrorists as such? Why did these terrorists rest and heal wounds in Turkey? - Or did you have to send troops into Turkey and destroy these terrorists there, and at the same time the Turkish army, if it tried to protect these barmalei?
          3. sogdy
            sogdy 20 February 2018 06: 09
            0
            Quote: Donskoy
            It’s just that the situation has become so complicated that everyone is trying to catch his fish in this muddy water.

            Well, yes, called the "last chance."
          4. Tiksi-3
            Tiksi-3 20 February 2018 07: 44
            0
            Quote: Donskoy
            Take it easy

            Are you a psychotherapist?
            Quote: Donskoy
            Russia will not get involved in a war with Turkey or the United States over Syria.

            Yes Easy
            Quote: Donskoy
            Minimal - Assad control of the coast and key cities,

            belay but what's the point? ... if there are no resources? fool
        4. You Vlad
          You Vlad 19 February 2018 19: 07
          0
          Here is a new interpretation of the words of the Turkish Foreign Ministry today:
          Turkey does not oppose the entry of Syrian government troops into Afrin if they fight terrorism. This was stated by Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu.
          “The reason for which the regime’s forces will enter this region is important. If for the struggle against the Workers' Party of Kurdistan, then we will have no problems with this. But if in order to protect the units of the People’s Self-Defense Forces, then no one can stop the Turkish troops, ”Tavs quotes Cavusoglu.
        5. Weyland
          Weyland 19 February 2018 20: 25
          +3
          Quote: sefevi
          But Turkey should calmly watch how the Kurds can get away from just retribution?

          The Türks in their line of work ... They got bogged down from Altai, grabbed a bunch of territories, pressed the indigenous population (up to direct genocide) not childishly - and then they are outraged that this is an indigenous population (that the Armenians, the Kurds, the Greeks) regularly against them rises!
          1. protoss
            protoss 19 February 2018 23: 13
            +6
            Well, Armenians, Kurds and Greeks also once came there. the Greeks at the end of 3 thousand BC, the Armenians in the second, and the Kurds (if you count the Medes as ancestors of the Kurds) at the beginning of 1 thousand BC earlier than the Turks, but also nifiga not autochthonous.
            and when the Seljuks came to these places, all this shushera several times exceeded them in numbers and merged anyway. Well, the Turks with guns and guns against spears and bows, since there are no Greek-Armenian-Kurdish-Bulgarian-victims technically inferior to the conquerors, so in principle they themselves are to blame.
            1. Dmitry Belovetsky
              Dmitry Belovetsky 20 February 2018 05: 26
              +10
              Has Assad invited Turkey to his country?
              Why has the strong leader of a great country still not thrown them out of Syria?
              1. sogdy
                sogdy 20 February 2018 06: 11
                +1
                Quote: Dmitry Belovetsky
                Why has the strong leader of a great country still not thrown them out of Syria?

                What are you talking about? Rave
              2. Tiksi-3
                Tiksi-3 20 February 2018 07: 46
                0
                Quote: Dmitry Belovetsky
                Has Assad invited Turkey to his country?

                and you should have reported? .... Maybe Putin gave the go-ahead for this .... how do you know?
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      4. the most important
        the most important 19 February 2018 19: 27
        +9
        Quote: ul_vitalii
        It seems to be coming to this, the American scenario.

        So you want to say that the Americans forgave the Turks? What is it that the Americans have already taken a parade in honor of a complete victory in Syria ?? that it is the Americans who removed a significant part of the troops from Syria ?? What is it that the Americans allow everyone to bomb their allies ?? What are the Americans incomprehensible goals and objectives in Syria ?? Strange .. but it seems to me that the lack of rigidity and consistency of Russia leads to this. That's why it's a shame ...
        1. Russia
          Russia 19 February 2018 20: 19
          +12
          Quote: the most important
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          It seems to be coming to this, the American scenario.

          So you want to say that the Americans forgave the Turks? What is it that the Americans have already taken a parade in honor of a complete victory in Syria ?? that it is the Americans who removed a significant part of the troops from Syria ?? What is it that the Americans allow everyone to bomb their allies ?? What are the Americans incomprehensible goals and objectives in Syria ?? Strange .. but it seems to me that the lack of rigidity and consistency of Russia leads to this. That's why it's a shame ...

          The American scenario, when everything is against everyone, and the rest is your invention and speculation, to see how you would rush into the crowd of hooligans with sufficient rigidity and consistency. hi
          1. the most important
            the most important 19 February 2018 20: 31
            +6
            In my recent (or distant) past, I and 11 subordinates (who were nearby at that moment) were able to break up a mass brawl, where on the one hand there were 120 people, and on the other 200 ... And only that our actions were tough and MANDATORY by all conflicting managed to avoid serious consequences. Remember Suvorov ??? Not by number, but by skill!
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              1. Dmitry Belovetsky
                Dmitry Belovetsky 20 February 2018 05: 31
                +11
                The Turkish army, too ... far from fit, for that matter. After the coup, Erdogan arranged for her the “37th year” and their lack of command personnel, in some parts, reaches 30%. Also, a catastrophic shortage of pilots. This affects the combat readiness of the army. The Kurds nipped them in a month. And they are fighting on several fronts; and their attacks, almost every week. Erdogan, all recent years, is trying to jump above his head and grab a piece that he can’t swallow. And does not learn from their mistakes. How could he not lose Turkey ...
              2. ghby
                ghby 20 February 2018 08: 43
                0
                Quote: Lacoste
                Wow) 12 kickboxing world champions come together, and all your colleagues?))

                in vain you jerk so that to separate the crowd you do not need to beat everyone in your understanding. And yes it is difficult.
        2. ochakow703
          ochakow703 20 February 2018 08: 08
          +2
          The situation in Syria and our behavior there, strongly resembles the Chechen war of the time of Pasha Grachev. They also introduced, sometimes reconciled, and mothers sobbed over the tombs of their sons.
    2. Viktor.12.71
      Viktor.12.71 19 February 2018 18: 24
      +4
      Far from it. If the SAA climb themselves to the Turks they will be rolled out. Regarding the SDF, they are not in Africa; I did not find confirmation. Apparently they want to shuganut the Turks, but if it does not work? Then the clash between the Turkish Armed Forces and the SAR will begin, then the hands of the Turks will be untied.
      1. Dmitry Belovetsky
        Dmitry Belovetsky 20 February 2018 05: 33
        +11
        What, Erdogan again wanted to restore the Ottoman Empire ?!
        And let the Syrian troops invade your territory, I want to hear Turkish cries.
        1. Viktor.12.71
          Viktor.12.71 20 February 2018 06: 33
          +1
          Quote: Dmitry Belovetsky
          And let the Syrian troops invade your territory,

          Then they will have to deal with the Armed Forces of Russia and Kazakhstan.
          Quote: Dmitry Belovetsky
          I want to hear Turkish cries.

          SAA nothing against the Turkish Armed Forces.
    3. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 19 February 2018 18: 59
      +1
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Masks reset! This is to be expected!

      Nothing new, just the Sultan, on the pretext of the Kurds, is seizing new lands and expanding his possessions. Now, who the hell will drive the Turks out of Syria. request
      I would not be surprised even if the states deliberately declared the Kurds as allies in order to give the Sultan an excuse for sending troops and cutting the ATS. Also, there may have been some kind of secret agreement between Washington and Ankara about this ... IMHO
      1. Shura Sailors
        Shura Sailors 19 February 2018 19: 32
        0
        At the moment, no one is going to expel the Turks. They have few bunts with Kurds at home, so they also found a hemorrhoid in Syria. The Turkish army is quite a serious thing, if only the war with the Kurds did not become for them like Afghanistan for the USSR.
        1. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 19 February 2018 19: 40
          +3
          Quote: Shura of the sailors
          At the moment, no one is going to expel the Turks.

          А зря.
          Quote: Shura of the sailors
          The Turkish army is quite a serious thing, if only the war with the Kurds did not become for them like Afghanistan for the USSR.

          Are you so worried about the Turks? laughing
          But seriously, it won’t be - the Turks have the second largest army in NATO. They will roll out the YPG, but where will they move it later ... Apparently Assad is also worried about this.
          1. zivXP
            zivXP 19 February 2018 20: 45
            +1
            А зря.

            So what? Turkey is currently our neighbor and ally. In the future, our interests may intersect, so you can sacrifice a pawn. Why did Afrin give up to us? I understand that Russian oligarchs need Syrian oil and cut off business to competitors.
            1. Misha Honest
              Misha Honest 19 February 2018 21: 54
              +4
              Quote: zivXP
              So what? Turkey is currently our neighbor and ally.

              Made fun of laughing good Yes, with such an ally and enemies do not. lol
              The only union that the Turks are now composed of is NATO. And they are not in a hurry to get out of it. ) Moreover - how would these YOUR "allies" in the very near future would not turn against Russia sold them s-400 ...
      2. flicker
        flicker 19 February 2018 23: 46
        +2
        the states specifically declared the Kurds allies to give the sultan an excuse to send troops
        Most likely so.
        perhaps there was some kind of secret agreement between Washington and Ankara about this
        unlikely. They no longer trust each other so much to conclude a secret agreement. Rather, each side is trying to use the interests of the other for its own benefit.
        1. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 20 February 2018 00: 53
          +2
          Quote: flicker
          Rather, each side is trying to use the interests of the other for its own benefit.

          Also very likely. hi
          Only the Syrians (everyone, the Kurds, too) feel sorry ...
    4. Scoun
      Scoun 19 February 2018 19: 18
      +6
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Masks reset!

      Yes, we don’t have an article so “a dropped mask” .... then a week passes a month and another mask comes off, USA, Europe / Turkey, etc.
      Should these “bottom” masks be reached?))
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 19 February 2018 19: 19
        +3
        Never. That is why I love the East. Never....
        1. zivXP
          zivXP 19 February 2018 20: 46
          +4
          Never say never - Russian folk proverb.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 19 February 2018 21: 34
            +1
            Is that kind of a Bond phrase? it seems?
            Masks, half masks, then the game of shadows will begin! "Fun" has not yet begun. but when it starts, we hope to understand that this is it.
            In short, to be in the front row and correct the actors ... if we can, if they will listen, if not yet what?
            1. Dmitry Belovetsky
              Dmitry Belovetsky 20 February 2018 05: 29
              +10
              The Russians laid on Uncle Sam and said that Assad be!
              He is the only guarantor of the future renewed peaceful and developing Syria!
  2. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 19 February 2018 18: 03
    +6
    How many chairs did the Tomato Sultan sit on his ass? So the crack will crack!
    God forbid the fate of the SAR ... In his own country, every fool puts ultimatums, but the country is shattered ... along with the economy.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 19 February 2018 18: 09
      +5
      But if this happens, on which side will Russia take?
      Quote: Hurricane70
      How many chairs did the Tomato Sultan sit on his ass? So the crack will crack!
      God forbid the fate of the SAR ... In his own country, every fool puts ultimatums, but the country is shattered ... along with the economy.
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic 19 February 2018 18: 14
        +10
        We have only one option - implicitly or secretly, but to help Assad! Having lost Syria, we will be completely thrown out of this region! Russia should help the Syrians, maybe the Kurds, with the wrong hands, through Iran and Lebanon, but help! Otherwise, we will not be able to exert any influence on the countries of the region!
        1. 210ox
          210ox 19 February 2018 18: 22
          +2
          I agree. But in this case, the Turks can block the straits for us. The situation is of course stalemate. It is likely that our people will persuade both sides
          Quote: Herkulesich
          We have only one option - implicitly or secretly, but to help Assad! Having lost Syria, we will be completely thrown out of this region! Russia should help the Syrians, maybe the Kurds, with the wrong hands, through Iran and Lebanon, but help! Otherwise, we will not be able to exert any influence on the countries of the region!
          1. Separ
            Separ 19 February 2018 18: 35
            +9
            The straits have the ability to "expand", as they wanted to do under the USSR in one of the aggravation of relations between Turkey and the USSR am
            1. Turk_az
              Turk_az 19 February 2018 20: 48
              +10
              the straits did not expand very much, after the fallen su-24 almost live wink
              then they heard about the expansion of the straits from people much more authoritative than you, for example, Zhirinovsky ... and even many, starting from Solovyov and the company ... not talking about Kisilev .... so how many meters did they expand? lol

              for the dead guys on February 7, there wasn’t even a condemnation on the talk show ... but you want to expand the straits ..
              1. Separ
                Separ 20 February 2018 18: 23
                +2
                Time will tell. In the early 2000s, we did not have an army, but now we have an army ..
                1. Turk_az
                  Turk_az 20 February 2018 21: 45
                  +1
                  in the early 90s we also didn’t have it wink
        2. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 19 February 2018 19: 04
          +4
          Quote: Herkulesich
          We have only one option - implicitly or secretly, but to help Assad!

          at the same time, you can help the Turkish Kurds to bring chaos in Turkey !!! wink yes wassat wassat wassat in general, there are many options and no one will tell you about them !!! tongue tongue
          1. Turk_az
            Turk_az 19 February 2018 20: 51
            +8
            and then help the rebels in the Caucasus .... and in Central Asia .... do not be afraid to go into the subway?
            you are very pleased with the death of the innocent until it touches you personally
            1. ultra
              ultra 19 February 2018 21: 13
              +4
              Quote: Turk_az
              and then help the rebels in the Caucasus

              The Turks also helped these "rebels" in Chechnya. We have a good memory.
              1. Turk_az
                Turk_az 19 February 2018 22: 59
                +3
                The USSR created an RPK and?
                1. ultra
                  ultra 20 February 2018 12: 34
                  0
                  Turks slaughtered Armenians in the year 15 and?
            2. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 19 February 2018 21: 23
              +1
              Quote: Turk_az
              and then help the rebels in the Caucasus

              recourse recourse recourse Well try, help !!! what what Kadyrov will crumble you and not notice !!! wink lol lol lol and then gouge your turk-az if you chat a lot !!! wassat wassat wassat
            3. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 19 February 2018 21: 53
              +4
              Quote: Turk_az
              do not be afraid to go into the subway?

              Wow, "broke up and rolls ..." Typically, the markets burn very well, especially with all the contents. It happens, you know, that the wiring is faulty ... and hucksters often press for repairs. request Yes, sometimes.
              1. Turk_az
                Turk_az 19 February 2018 22: 52
                +7
                it happens that everything burns ... but it is insured ... you go to the market and say this in your city, and not on the Internet lol
                there are 3 southerners, kolashmatat companies))) sometimes they play a wedding, ... they shoot ... they close the road))) so everything happens))))

                about the metro, I do not call for the support of terrorists, unlike some of those sitting here, calling for aiding the RPK and the bombings of Turkey ... I just asked, what if the same answer follows?
                When women, children, old people and generally just not wine-like peaceful people who accidentally happened to be at the scene of a terrorist attack, no matter what nationality they die, are completely not good ... or rather terrible
                1. 72jora72
                  72jora72 20 February 2018 05: 07
                  +2
                  there are 3 southerners, kolashmatyat company)))
                  But it happens that the Armenians almost take Baku (and would have taken if Russia had not slowed them down)
          2. tekinoral
            tekinoral 19 February 2018 21: 09
            +1
            Perhaps such an option, Turkey helps pomaks and Turks in Greece! wink
            1. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 19 February 2018 21: 25
              0
              Quote: tekinoral
              Turkey helps pomaks and Turks in Greece!

              and get on the teeth !! wink there is little hostility to him with all neighbors, he will still get problems at distant approaches !!! wink yes
              1. tekinoral
                tekinoral 19 February 2018 21: 57
                +4
                Do not tell, as you will see the Turkish military disappear immediately! wink
                1. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 20 February 2018 03: 48
                  0
                  Quote: tekinoral
                  Do not tell, as you will see the Turkish military disappear immediately! wink

                  recourse recourse who disappears ??? what what you confuse someone with someone !! fool fool fool tongue tongue at the same time ascribe to Turkey excessive heroism, feats and power !!! wink yes laughing laughing laughing
          3. protoss
            protoss 19 February 2018 23: 23
            +4
            The Turks trying to wreak havoc on the Kurds in 2015-2016 rolled out. surviving rkkashniki managed to dump in Syria and now make up the core of the SDS. and now the Turks again came to their liking. so the option is so-so laughing
      2. PalBor
        PalBor 19 February 2018 18: 51
        0
        Quote: 210ox
        But if this happens, on which side will Russia take?
        Quote: Hurricane70
        How many chairs did the Tomato Sultan sit on his ass? So the crack will crack!
        God forbid the fate of the SAR ... In his own country, every fool puts ultimatums, but the country is shattered ... along with the economy.

        Apparently Israel.
        1. Shahno
          Shahno 19 February 2018 19: 18
          +2
          Quite possibly. It is better to understand the line of the side of the conflict than to arrive in a state where a knife is stuck in your back. We are very consistent in our actions, maybe aggressive, well, such a fate.
          1. Shura Sailors
            Shura Sailors 19 February 2018 19: 38
            +1
            So enough to be friends with the Americans, start making friends with Russia. Really strong union would turn out. Only the Arabs will not understand
            1. Shahno
              Shahno 19 February 2018 19: 49
              +1
              Will be working. Both we and you have people at the government level who are very interested in this. Let's see what happens ...
    2. Herculesic
      Herculesic 19 February 2018 18: 16
      +5
      Hurricane 70 - it was necessary to calculate! I’m saying that the Sultan rushed to the United States at his feet — that means, wait a lot of muck! And so it happened! The Yankees clearly gave him carte blanche to act against the Syrian army.
      1. Shura Sailors
        Shura Sailors 19 February 2018 19: 48
        +3
        Yankees do not allow anyone to steer rightfully. The Sultan plays on his "need" in the region. Russia and the United States, Israel, and Iran need it ... But only when everyone needs it, in the end you will not need anyone.
  3. Baloo
    Baloo 19 February 2018 18: 05
    +3
    Threatened war with Syria? belay And what happened before, who called on the Turks to invade Syria? angry
    1. tekinoral
      tekinoral 19 February 2018 21: 11
      +6
      Quote: Balu
      And what happened before, who called on the Turks to invade Syria?

      4 million refugees and SSA wink
  4. novel66
    novel66 19 February 2018 18: 08
    +5
    oh how! you here on your territory do not do what we do not want! burst into a snag!
  5. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 19 February 2018 18: 08
    +7
    If they protect the YPG from us, no one will stop Turkey and Turkish soldiers. (...) This is also valid for Manbij and the territory east of the Euphrates
    Eka got a fuss, couldn’t quickly take control of the area, now you get all the “charms” of the prolonged operation, and the victorious words and loud threats of serious uncles do not scare.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 19 February 2018 18: 11
      +5
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      If they protect the YPG from us, no one will stop Turkey and Turkish soldiers. (...) This is also valid for Manbij and the territory east of the Euphrates
      Eka got a fuss, couldn’t quickly take control of the area, now you get all the “charms” of the prolonged operation, and the victorious words and loud threats of serious uncles do not scare.

      Every Turkish soldier in Syria is an occupier, executioner, killer, looter. Water everyone and let their mothers cry, like the mothers of the Syrian soldiers.
      1. Vita vko
        Vita vko 19 February 2018 18: 27
        +4
        Quote: Balu
        If they protect YPG

        Here's the keyword "IF." But just with what a fright CAA will protect the illegal armed groups, which are supported and used by the United States?
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 19 February 2018 18: 28
        +17
        Allepo - Syria's largest city - has always been Turkish
        a city with a Turkish, not an Arab population.
        All trade relations, businesses they have with Turkey, not Damascus.
        Aleppo came to Syria by accident, in the colonial section of the Ottoman
        empire.
        And count the Turkoman in Aleppo and Idlib. And whom they consider invaders:
        Turkish army or Syrian army ...
        1. Herculesic
          Herculesic 19 February 2018 18: 41
          +10
          Alexey hi Now you will agree to the fact that the Syrians have never lived in Syria! There lived Ukrointsy, again Ukrointsy, still Ukrointsy, and very little else about fifty nations! But the Syrians were not there until the day before last Friday, did I understand you correctly? ??
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 19 February 2018 18: 48
            +8
            I say that there was a huge Ottoman Empire.
            Remained - Turkey. How was the USSR - Russia remained.
            There is a "Russian world", and there is a "Turkish world" ...
            The empire disappears, but its influence is felt for a long time.
            Israel has a metric system, but land is still
            then measured in the DUNAMS. Why? - this was the case with the Turks. And all
            land legislation is still close to Turkish.
            1. Herculesic
              Herculesic 19 February 2018 19: 07
              +6
              Alexey hi please read how in general, and when the Turks captured a huge amount of land, they imposed a religion - Albania is an example for you. The Turkish empire, like many empires, is built on the blood and bones of captured and destroyed nations. And it collapsed due to internal contradictions, just like everywhere and always! But, it does not follow from this that the purely Syrian lands are suddenly Turkish!
              1. Turk_az
                Turk_az 19 February 2018 21: 16
                +7
                what nations were destroyed for example?) Maybe it’s worthwhile to cite serfdom in Russia as an example, and slavery in the states ??? or remind you of the Crusades ???
                or can you recall the deportation of Chechens, Crimean Tatars or Circassians ??? I read a lot about the history of the Caucasus? do not grind nonsense if you do not know, exposing the Turks in history as savages, and yours as angels ... you held yourself for slaves, while in the Ottoman Empire, Jews, Greeks, Armenians, Kurds, Circassians, Lezgins, Arabs and many other peoples were free, whose representatives held many important posts in the state
                1. Dry
                  Dry 20 February 2018 16: 48
                  +2
                  Quote: Turk_az
                  while in the Ottoman Empire, Jews, Greeks, Armenians, Kurds, Circassians, Lezgins, Arabs and many other peoples were are freewhose representatives held many important posts in the state

                  Enchanting nonsense. Is it called freedom Armenian Genocide?
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 20 February 2018 17: 01
                    +1
                    Enchanting nonsense. Is it called freedom Armenian Genocide?

                    More than nonsense! Impudent lie! Permanent genocide was carried out in the Ottoman Empire under various forms, over all the Mohammedan peoples! The Ottoman Empire graded on the mountains of the bones of the enslaved peoples! It was unbearable suffering and bitterness for them !!!






                    The atrocities of the Turks related them to the Nazis! The difference is that the Nazis committed atrocities for only 5 years, and the Turks for 500 years! Turkish scimitar spilled the ocean of blood! Wherever they came from, the Turks left an unforgettable nightmare!
                    1. tekinoral
                      tekinoral 20 February 2018 18: 56
                      0
                      Impudent lies on your part, but did the Bulgarians do nothing, did not cleanse the Turks? For 500 years, not a single Bulgarian should have remained, that you are lying
                      1. pytar
                        pytar 20 February 2018 22: 02
                        0
                        The fact is that there are so many facts and evidence that they cannot be denied. Have you heard of the "blood tax" over the beaten Christians? Devshirme called! How many Christian children were forcibly taken away by the Turks for the Enichar corps? Millions! And about hundreds of thousands of captives about sad robes sing sad songs in all Balkan countries! If you pass from the Balkan countries, almost at every step you will find evidence of Turkish atrocities. The ossicles are indestructibly preserved. Nothing is forgotten! Serbs, Greeks, Bulgarians, Romanians and many more peoples remember these lady black times in their history! Kka would not try, you will not deceive anyone! Especially on the Russian site, despite the fact that you are hiding behind the Russian flag! Yes, you deny about 1,5 a million slaughtered Armenians! Moreover, they committed this monstrous genocide recently by historical measures! Heavy karma hangs over Turkey ... There will be reckoning for everything, an account will come for everything!
                      2. pytar
                        pytar 21 February 2018 10: 01
                        0
                        tekinoral
                        believe me, I’m not hiding from anyone and I’m not disguising myself under any flags .... But the Bulgarians in the Balkan war killed my great-grandfather before the eyes of my grandfather, and a lot of people including

                        You have a Russian flag on your nickname ...

                        It turns out that you are either a Turk whose grandfather-grandmother is Balkan or "daughter of an officer" ?! wink
                        and what then did you not exterminate for 500 years?

                        Almost done. From 2,2 million to the invasion of the Turks, by the middle of the 16 century no more than half a million remained. And preserved thanks to the highlands. During the Ottoman yoke, according to the calculations of scientists somewhere, 4-6 million Christian boys were taken to the Enichar corps. How many more girls were taken in harem or sold in slave markets is not worth calculating. Turks periodically consumed entire regions. Descendants of refugees and now live with tens of thousands in Banat, Bessarabia and Odessa region. In the Rhodope Mountains there is the so-called Pomaki - forcibly helped the poor Bulgarians. About massacre priest in all of Europe, but in the United States wrote! The massacre in Stara Zagora is documented in detail. The last extermination of the Thracian Bulgarians, the Turks made during the Balkan War. Greeks, Serbs, Montenegrins and other Balkan peoples also have long lists of genocides carried out by Turks!
                        and the forcible bulgarization of the Turks in 84-85 d don't forget how many Turks in Belem were sent for nothing, so

                        In the communist camp of Bellene / and in other camps / tens of thousands of Bulgarians were kept / in general, about 60 000 / and all 517 Turks were repressed. T.N. The “revival process” was an incorrect event, despite the fact that a significant part of the Bulgarian “Turks” are descendants of the impeached Bulgarians. It is in the graves of the ancestors of the Pomaks and now Orthodox crosses are found hidden under the guise of a Mogamedan burial. Official Bulgarian authorities, after 90, when socialism fell apologized. And when will the Turks apologize for their 500 years of genocide?
                        Can you read?

                        I am, and you are clearly not.
                    2. Dry
                      Dry 21 February 2018 12: 21
                      +1
                      Quote: pytar
                      The atrocities of the Turks related them to the Nazis!

                      Even more, it was the impunity of the Turks after the Armenian Genocide that untied the hands of the Nazis for the Holocaust.
                  2. tekinoral
                    tekinoral 20 February 2018 18: 58
                    0
                    But what about the 530.000 Turks whom you killed? At least once remembered or talked about them
                    1. pytar
                      pytar 20 February 2018 22: 06
                      0
                      What kind of 530.? Are you mistaken? 530 million, for sure! Do you know? In vain you try to transfer your sins to someone else's back. If God forbid, there will be a big mess, the Turks will be hollowing both enemies and allies! So many monstrous crimes against all made the Turks that the land under them will burn! "Turkey ke padne!"
                      1. tekinoral
                        tekinoral 21 February 2018 01: 03
                        0
                        Peter, believe me, I’m not hiding from anyone and I’m not disguising myself under any flags, but why didn’t you destroy you in 500 years, answer pzhl? But the Bulgarians in the Balkan war killed my great-grandfather before the eyes of my grandfather, and a lot of people, including the Bulgarianization of the Turks in 84-85 g, do not forget how many Turks in Belem were sent for nothing, so
                      2. tekinoral
                        tekinoral 21 February 2018 01: 05
                        0
                        Can you read?
                  3. The comment was deleted.
                    1. pytar
                      pytar 21 February 2018 12: 33
                      0
                      ... Chechens, Circassians, Meskhetian Turks, were deported to the Caucasus ...

                      And that is true! Like the Armenian Genocide! One does not refute the other!
            2. Dry
              Dry 20 February 2018 16: 50
              +2
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Israel has a metric system, but land is still
              then measured in the DUNAMS. Why? - this was the case with the Turks. And all
              land legislation is still close to Turkish.

              Are you really campaigning for the Ottoman Empire?
        2. Vita vko
          Vita vko 19 February 2018 18: 51
          +8
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Aleppo came to Syria by accident, in the colonial section of the Ottoman
          empire
          In this case, Israel is even a coincidence - a state that arose on the initiative of Stalin, who naively hoped for the gratitude of the Jewish people for their salvation from fascism.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 19 February 2018 19: 01
            +9
            The USSR supported the creation of Israel: thanks for that!
            But even if NO ONE at the UN voted in favor,
            Jews would proclaim the state anyway.
            It "de facto" already existed from the beginning of the 20th century: with armies, police, taxes,
            officials. It would be harder, but basically nothing
            not changed. The Arabs would have climbed the war anyway, and they all the same
            would be smashed.
            1. Shura Sailors
              Shura Sailors 19 February 2018 21: 27
              +1
              By the way, here is a beautiful and correct answer to all "adepts of the unifiers of the land" - every nation (nationality, nation ... etc.) has the right to self-determination (by the way, this right is recorded in many constitutions). And do not teach (treat, vaccinate) who and how to live. Everyone chooses his own path
          2. KonoGon
            KonoGon 19 February 2018 19: 06
            +1
            Quote: Vita VKO
            at the initiative of Stalin
            Oh, already on the initiative. At first it was out of the way, then on the connivance, then on permission, now on the initiative. Tomorrow we will hear how Stalin himself, with these hands drained the swamps and, together with Ben Gurion, proclaimed Israeli independence.
        3. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 19 February 2018 19: 07
          +3
          Quote: voyaka uh
          was always turkish

          now it will not be !!! request wink laughing laughing
          1. tekinoral
            tekinoral 19 February 2018 21: 33
            +2
            They said the same thing about Cyprus, everyone knows the outcome!
        4. garnik
          garnik 19 February 2018 19: 30
          +5
          Allepo - Syria's largest city - has always been Turkish
          a city with a Turkish, not an Arab population.

          If Allepo was always a Turkish city, then Jerusalem is the same.
          Until the 40s of the 20th century, up to 40% of Christians lived there. At the moment, Sunni Arabs make up the vast majority.
          The liberation of the country from the occupiers can hardly be considered an accident, rather a regularity.
          But in Idlib there are not a few pro-Turkish tribes. And the fact that Arabs are Sunnis is the main factor in rapprochement with the Turks, because no one considers the Alawites to be true Muslims.
          Alawites along with Muslims celebrate Christian holidays, which is nonsense for Muslims.
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 19 February 2018 21: 29
            +1
            Quote: garnik
            for Muslims is nonsense.

            and for Muslims is not nonsense fraternization with Jews in the fight against the same Muslims ??? what what wassat wassat wassat
            1. garnik
              garnik 19 February 2018 22: 10
              +5
              So the Sunnis consider themselves true Muslims, in relation to the Shiites. And the Jews "play" on the contradictions of the two currents of Islam. And they are ready to break their foreheads, some for faith and some for money.
              In principle, they are doing everything right, the only thing is, if they had not climbed into the power and business structures of Russia, thereby working for the United States.
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 20 February 2018 03: 53
                0
                Quote: garnik
                So the Sunnis consider themselves true Muslims, in relation to the Shiites.

                recourse recourse and on this basis are sewn worse for them than Jews or something ??? what what fool fool fool no matter what happens, the Jews a priori should be considered large enemies !! request request request
          2. Turk_az
            Turk_az 19 February 2018 22: 14
            +3
            I’ll tell you the truth, the Alawites generally do not consider Muslims)) and in this war it is not necessary to look for religious factors ....
            Quote: garnik
            And we slowly put our head in the mouth of the Turkish Lion .... 2.0 is not in our favor so far (

            Rather, the Turkish wolf (their symbol.) I'm afraid we will lose in the dry. We have bound ourselves by agreements with the Turks and they will become impudent until it comes to open interference in the affairs of Russia.

            saying We will lose, do you mean Armenia, or Russia ?? if you have such sincere emotional impulses for Russia, then I’ll reassure you that Russia will not lose) although Armenia may very well)) can merge like Afrin)))
            1. garnik
              garnik 19 February 2018 23: 22
              +3
              saying We will lose, do you mean Armenia, or Russia ?? if you have such sincere emotional impulses for Russia, then I’ll reassure you that Russia will not lose) although Armenia may very well)) can merge like Afrin)))

              Speaking we, I mean Russia and Armenia, we have the same guidelines in the entire Middle East, and in the Islamic world.
              Calls for the unification of the Turks cannot but worry Russia, and after all, the epicenter of this movement is Turkey.
              To merge into the account, you are right. Having come to power, the Bolsheviks in Turks made friends and merged the Armenians and took the first step to meet the collapse of Russia. A similar thing is happening today with the same friendship with the main and interested in the final collapse of Russia, Turkey. Even the same gifts with which the Turks managed to defeat the Greek army (also requested ammunition and provisions) that stood under the walls of Ankira. Today, Akkuya NPP, Gas Pipeline, With 300 on credit at a meager percentage. If the Guarantor leads Russia to nowhere, then Armenia is nothing for him, so
              that everything can be.
              1. Turk_az
                Turk_az 19 February 2018 23: 47
                +6
                Saying we should decide whose interests you are defending ... do not equal Armenia with the great Russia .. Armenia whose economy is completely bought by Russia, whose borders are protected by the children of Russian mothers and which exists at the expense of Russian taxpayers, can’t pull Russia on an ally, rather, another region or just a military base ... I repeat Russia is a superpower, which in terms of strength and wealth is not important, and your country is just a parasite on the neck of Russia, so live in Russia and speak out under this flag, for the sake of your quasi republic neglecting the interests of Russia is not very beautiful ... this is hypocrisy
          3. protoss
            protoss 20 February 2018 01: 45
            +2
            The Alawites are under-assimilated Aramaic people who mow down rather lazily under Muslims, and quietly paganize completely. I won’t be surprised if they still worship Baal, Hadad, or the like. which of them are Muslims, if for them booze and homosexuality is in the order of things and is not condemned at all.
            their analogue in Christianity is voodoo, i.e. ancient native cult with a set of Catholic paraphernalia.
      3. Scorpio05
        Scorpio05 19 February 2018 20: 36
        +7
        Turkey has sheltered 3.5 million refugees from Syria and spends billions of dollars on their maintenance and food. Here you can see about the Turkish "looting" and "occupation" of Syria:
        http://turknews.ca/iste-turk-askeri-iste-insanlik
        -1

        https://www.timeturk.com/turk-askeri-kostu-danima
        rkali-konusuldu / haber-58457

        Everyone would be so "looting" ...
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 19 February 2018 21: 31
          +1
          Quote: Scorpio05
          Turkey has sheltered 3.5 million refugees from Syria

          recourse recourse there was nothing for that very Turkey to incite hostility in Syria !!! fool fool fool fool fool fool
        2. KonoGon
          KonoGon 19 February 2018 22: 06
          +6
          Quote: Scorpio05
          Turkey has sheltered 3.5 million refugees from Syria and spends billions of dollars on their maintenance and food.
          Turks say Syria, can not maintain order in their country? We will support as we see it.
      4. tekinoral
        tekinoral 19 February 2018 21: 13
        +3
        In the 90s, our mothers cried a lot and for the Syrians, so ....
  6. Dave36
    Dave36 19 February 2018 18: 09
    +10
    And we slowly put our head in the mouth of the Turkish Lion .... 2.0 is not in our favor so far (
    1. lance
      lance 19 February 2018 19: 07
      +2
      just a lion did not understand yet that the needles in a meat grinder
    2. garnik
      garnik 19 February 2018 19: 38
      +7
      And we slowly put our head in the mouth of the Turkish Lion .... 2.0 is not in our favor so far (

      Rather, the Turkish wolf (their symbol.) I'm afraid we will lose in the dry. We have bound ourselves by agreements with the Turks and they will become impudent until it comes to open interference in the affairs of Russia.
      1. Turk_az
        Turk_az 19 February 2018 23: 02
        +2
        you lose .... saying that you mean Russia or Armenia? smile
  7. fa2998
    fa2998 19 February 2018 18: 13
    +3
    Quote: Herkulesich
    Masks reset! This is to be expected!

    Turkey, a member of NATO, is bound by joint security treaties.
    Syria, in turn, is bound by an agreement with Russia.
    As a result, we have a NATO war - Russia?
    And we give them air defense systems, we provide loans. Are you a bit early in Turkey? Or just business? hi
    1. Dave36
      Dave36 19 February 2018 18: 15
      +4
      Yes, we are not connected ... We didn’t say for Assad ... we defeated ISIS .... home ...
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic 19 February 2018 18: 30
        +5
        We’ll leave Syria altogether - nobody else will ever believe us in the region, they will ignore us there, we will lose our confidence and respect with difficulty! East in this regard is very sensitive to change - losing trust and respect there is a thousand times easier than deserving it.
        1. Dave36
          Dave36 19 February 2018 18: 44
          +2
          We already have nothing to do there ... We do not use swords there. We are afraid to strike there, and there, around the enemies. We’ll go a little against the Sultan, he will immediately remember that he is NATO ..
          1. Herculesic
            Herculesic 19 February 2018 19: 20
            +4
            Erdogad is a typical hypocrite and despot, but he is cowardly - remember his reaction to our downed “drying up!” He ran to NATO for help and there he was given a sniff to smell around! Crawled to Putin to bow! It could easily be eliminated if desired! In vain, we helped to disrupt the military coup in Turkey!
            1. tekinoral
              tekinoral 19 February 2018 21: 47
              +2
              Quote: Herkulesich
              but he is cowardly

              What’s what, but he’s definitely not to be blamed for cowardice,
            2. Turk_az
              Turk_az 19 February 2018 23: 15
              +4
              Yes, if they could have liquidated it)) and you didn’t break anything apart from the word of mouth, tens of thousands of people who came out in support of Erdogan who brought down drying, merit of Russia?))) all the police sided with the people .... and the people sided with Erdogan (which brought down drying) ... under the tanks and armored personnel carriers of the Russian Federation lay down? are the dead also from them? several months of propaganda against Erdogan and in one hour saved him laughing laughing laughing Russia needed Turkey to repulse the west, Turkey Russia ...

              Yes, and see his speech in the Turkish Parliament, the day after '' so
              called apology letter '' .. do not believe in everything they say and write media wink
    2. garnik
      garnik 19 February 2018 19: 42
      +3
      And we give them air defense systems, we provide loans. Are you a bit early in Turkey? Or just business?
      This is an ordinary betrayal of the interests of Russia. The time will come we will spit, as it is now at the time of EBN.
      1. tekinoral
        tekinoral 19 February 2018 21: 37
        +4
        Pensioners of Russia every day spit, for the fact that weapons are supplied to Armenia for free. And Turkey buys for money!
        1. Dry
          Dry 20 February 2018 16: 58
          +2
          Quote: tekinoral
          Turkey buys for money!

          And those who sign documents (for a loan) are probably not good?
    3. tekinoral
      tekinoral 19 February 2018 21: 14
      +2
      Business only
    4. pytar
      pytar 21 February 2018 13: 36
      0
      Turkey, a member of NATO, is bound by joint security treaties.

      When Turkey shot down a Russian plane in 2015, the Turks fled to the NATO poster ... NATO told them clearly - we are not responsible for your stupidities! what have you done yourself ogrebaites! go bow to GDP ... lol No NATO will fight for Erdogan’s neo-Ottoman ambitions! There are even "NATO" who would fight against Turkey. They from Greece constantly look through the sights ...
  8. Dikson
    Dikson 19 February 2018 18: 26
    +9
    Well, what about tomatoes ??? What about tomatoes? friend-partner Endorgan will fill up a couple of our planes ... - it’s not scary, the main thing is the pipe ..
    1. Dave36
      Dave36 19 February 2018 18: 29
      +6
      Well, how to thread the thread of the Sultan ...
      1. Russia
        Russia 19 February 2018 19: 19
        +14
        Not the first time on the beaten track.
  9. Separ
    Separ 19 February 2018 18: 32
    +9
    The worst thing is that the Americans and the Turks backstage have already agreed on everything in advance, then there will be a Gordian Knot in front of Russia.
    1. Russia
      Russia 19 February 2018 19: 21
      +10
      They feel each other with the spinal cord.
    2. garnik
      garnik 19 February 2018 20: 04
      +3
      The worst thing is that the Americans and the Turks backstage have already agreed on everything in advance, then there will be a Gordian Knot in front of Russia.

      Verify the truth. Russia, the Americans will destroy the Turks with their hands. The only amers do not need an overly independent Sultan. Everyone wants to Siberia. One of their ancestral (as the Turks believe) land, the other bowels. So the Americans, the Turks and the Rockefellers for one.
      This is how Kurdish Americans are using it to achieve their goals.
      1. tekinoral
        tekinoral 19 February 2018 21: 18
        +2
        Garnik will figure it out without you!
    3. tekinoral
      tekinoral 19 February 2018 21: 16
      +2
      The Americans are unlikely to keep their word, no one in Turkey has long believed them!
    4. flicker
      flicker 20 February 2018 00: 17
      +2
      Quote: Separ
      The worst thing is that the Americans and the Turks backstage have already agreed on everything in advance.
      They can’t agree, Erdogan will never believe amers, will try to get profit, but for the sake of amers and to the detriment of himself, he will not do anything. And yes, the Turkish stream is more than happy with it.
  10. Serpent Pliskin
    Serpent Pliskin 19 February 2018 18: 41
    +6
    I have long said - Turkey is evil, we need to lure the Kurds to ourselves, put up with Assad, let there be wide autonomy, I don’t know. Kurds have earned the right to life. Turks will destroy both women and children, think about it. They are masters in this matter, history speaks about it. And their rhetoric is pro-fascist. And from NATO they will soon be chased, you will see.
    1. tekinoral
      tekinoral 19 February 2018 21: 20
      +2
      Quote: Snake Pliskin
      Turks will destroy both women and children, think about it. ABOUT

      Yes, and you do not know why the Turks are slowly entering Afrin?
      1. garnik
        garnik 19 February 2018 21: 49
        +3
        Pity the local population? Guessed? Now is not the time of Suleiman "magnificent", they can shout.
        And you do not know that the artillery of Turkey "works" in the settlements of the province of Afrin.
        1. tekinoral
          tekinoral 19 February 2018 22: 30
          +2
          Proof of studio pzhl.Chiya would cow mumbled
          1. garnik
            garnik 19 February 2018 23: 34
            +3
            http://www.tvc.ru/news/show/id/131168
            http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/4880426
            1. tekinoral
              tekinoral 19 February 2018 23: 54
              +2
              But where are the destroyed houses and civilian victims? Garnik do not disgrace
    2. protoss
      protoss 20 February 2018 01: 52
      0
      Pliskin snake - this is from the movie of my childhood - an escape from New York with Russell. which is interesting, I have never seen this film since then, although it’s like they’ve shown everything 100 times on TV.
  11. Dikson
    Dikson 19 February 2018 18: 42
    +17
    Once again we were raped .. I like to think about the fact that I was born in another country - in one where even the old, barely breathing Brezhnev could say a word from the UN rostrum, and the world stupidly obsessed with fear .. And the current leadership - a quarter of a century, it’s almost stupidly plundering the country and stupidly losing ground in the world, in exchange for cottages and houses in Miami .. and accounts in American banks .. The people who took power from Yeltsin are no different from him, in fact, they studied in the same English and American schools of economics .. - they were not taught to love and die for their country, they were taught to profitably distribute resources and money .. These people do not give a damn about the people, who provide wealth that is unthinkable, unthinkable even by Western standards .. Petrosyan Enough for everyone. The last honest war was -Afgan .. At least they came out from there under their own flag .. And the two Chechens now seem to be not fashionable to remember .. And how many Angola, Ethiopia, Venezuela and the Cube were? Vietnam and Nicaragua? Who will explain to the mothers who still live in huts and slums, now, for what did their children fight? Juvenile patriots who have no idea how to disassemble a Kalashnikov assault rifle?
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 19 February 2018 19: 10
      +5
      Quote: Dikson
      Once again we were raped .. I like to think about the fact that I was born in another country - in one where even the old, barely breathing Brezhnev could say a word from the UN rostrum, and the world stupidly obsessed with fear .. And the current leadership - a quarter of a century, it’s almost stupidly plundering the country and stupidly losing ground in the world, in exchange for cottages and houses in Miami .. and accounts in American banks .. The people who took power from Yeltsin are no different from him, in fact, they studied in the same English and American schools of economics .. - they were not taught to love and die for their country, they were taught to profitably distribute resources and money .. These people do not give a damn about the people, who provide wealth that is unthinkable, unthinkable even by Western standards .. Petrosyan Enough for everyone. The last honest war was -Afgan .. At least they came out from there under their own flag .. And the two Chechens now seem to be not fashionable to remember .. And how many Angola, Ethiopia, Venezuela and the Cube were? Vietnam and Nicaragua? Who will explain to the mothers who still live in huts and slums, now, for what did their children fight? Juvenile patriots who have no idea how to disassemble a Kalashnikov assault rifle?

      recourse recourse you with such scribbles straight to hohlyatsky resources !!! what wink yes laughing laughing laughing
    2. Herculesic
      Herculesic 19 February 2018 19: 23
      +4
      Dixon, in your comment I liked that you honestly wrote that you were raped-everything else, the groans of the person you raped!
      1. Russia
        Russia 19 February 2018 19: 28
        +10
        For a long time he was preparing a speech, it smells like rotten.
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 19 February 2018 21: 33
        0
        Quote: Herkulesich
        Dixon, in your comment I liked that you honestly wrote that you were raped-everything else, the groans of the person you raped!

        recourse recourse judging by the likes, they have a whole office fucked up there !!! what belay lol lol lol
  12. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 19 February 2018 19: 02
    +1
    They are there in turretchina then finally Rams chtoli beguiled !? Assad on its territory if the Turkish Foreign Ministry is not aware!
    1. lance
      lance 19 February 2018 19: 08
      +1
      Assad cannot fight on four fronts at once, it is necessary to tolerate.
    2. tekinoral
      tekinoral 19 February 2018 21: 22
      +3
      And how many Syrian citizens consider him legitimate, that’s the question!
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 20 February 2018 08: 58
        0
        The primary thing is that a foreign power invaded the territory of Syria !. Everything else is secondary!
  13. Graz
    Graz 19 February 2018 19: 32
    0
    among the Turks, the fighting efficiency of the army is worse than that of the Syrians, they have all the troops already with combat experience, they need to squeeze the Turks to the previous border
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 19 February 2018 19: 37
      +4
      This is generally one of the most serious armies in the BV. The second if that ... So the Syrians do not shine without Russia.
    2. tekinoral
      tekinoral 19 February 2018 21: 23
      +1
      Do you think the Turks have no combat experience?
  14. dojjdik
    dojjdik 19 February 2018 19: 38
    +3
    with the loss of Idlib, the tragicomic Erdogan will get a good scolding from the Israeli prezik and American Jews — they dumped him for the “Turkish igil”; so now we have to work out; while Israel is fighting, substituting either Erdogan or Saudshaikhs, sometimes the Jews themselves try Syrian air defense; Assad will have to fight on three fronts anyway; Iran can continue to help both de facto and de jure; we are only de facto
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  16. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 19 February 2018 20: 18
    +7
    Quote: Graz
    among the Turks, the fighting efficiency of the army is worse than that of the Syrians, they have all the troops already with combat experience, they need to squeeze the Turks to the previous border

    If you withdraw the Russian air forces from Syria for at least a few hours, the Russian PMCs, the Lebanese Hezbollah, the Iranian IRGC, the Afghan “Fatimiun”, the Iraqi “Hashdi Shabi” and who else is there?) One can imagine what will happen to the Assad regime. Vpery Rossii wrote well about the so-called “Syrian army”: “It is hard to imagine why the Syrian army gave slack. The Russian side provided tremendous help to free Syria from terrorists. Our special forces, volunteers and personnel generals are heroically fighting against thugs armed to the teeth, risking their lives and health. Is this really not enough? It would be time for the Syrian government forces, albeit with the last forces, but to put an end to this war, which cannot continue indefinitely. The battle for Deir ez Zor will be the last. " http: //xn--b1aecn3adibka9mra.xn--p1ai/blog/431312
    08218 / Smert-rossiyskogo-generala-v-Sirii-Armiya-S
    Ar-sdayot-pozitsii
    Even Military Review wrote about the low combat effectiveness of the Syrian army. What again will the Russian military have to puff out for Assad’s “warriors”? Do not rely on the Iranians, almost the entire military elite of the Iranian army and the IRGC, and just fighters, these are Iranian Turks, that is, Azerbaijanis. Including the commander of the IRGC (now former), General Safavi, etc. ... What could end, by the way, for Iran itself, if they are sent to fight against the Turks, it is also impossible to imagine. Yes, and the leader of Iran-Khamenei, an ethnic Azerbaijani himself ...
    Here is what topwar writes about the combat capability of the Syrian government army:
    "The Syrian army does not want to fight ... In addition to the lack of motivation, one of the reasons for the failure of the SAA in the Akerbat region, Alexander Asafov also considers the Syrian army’s low combat efficiency. Despite the work of Russian instructors who are trying to raise the morale of the Syrian soldiers, the SAA troops do not want to go to "Apparently, hoping that all the dirty work for them will be done by the Russian aerospace forces and pro-Iranian formations."
    Source: https://topwar.ru/118837-ni-shagu-bez-vks-nezhela
    nie-armii-sirii-osvobozhdat-akerbat-ot-ig-privede
    tk-katastrofe.html
    1. flicker
      flicker 20 February 2018 00: 30
      +1
      Turks should not get involved in any serious war, even with the Syrian army - as a third of the Turkish population is Kurds. A month of fighting with the Kurds, with little or no success. During the war with Syria, the theater of war will also be the territory of Turkey. So the war is equally not beneficial to either Syria or Turkey.
    2. protoss
      protoss 20 February 2018 01: 57
      0
      By the way, is this Safavi a descendant of the very dynasty that stopped in the 18th century?
  17. Gardamir
    Gardamir 19 February 2018 20: 24
    +5
    Fools are fighting powerfully. So wasn’t that in Deir ez Zora? Here, the comrade said correctly, the Kremlin once again raped. They ordered to go to the Olympics, without flags they went. they killed their partners in Syria, so the money does not smell. In Ukraine, Rossotrudnichestvo was torn apart and again silence. Finally, if not a fake, Turkey threatened Syria, and Koeml will again rub off (read the second letter correctly.)
    We have long been divided. The interests of the oligarchs on guard, which are the Kremlin and the interests of the inhabitants of Russia do not overlap.
  18. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 19 February 2018 20: 25
    +3
    Quote: Nikolai Grek
    Quote: Herkulesich
    We have only one option - implicitly or secretly, but to help Assad!

    at the same time, you can help the Turkish Kurds to bring chaos in Turkey !!! wink yes wassat wassat wassat in general, there are many options and no one will tell you about them !!! tongue tongue

    Do you like when in Russia some scumbags-fanatics from the same give or some other
    "make chaos"? Why should one rejoice or try to cheat on another? There are the same children, women, and so on ...
  19. Buravchik
    Buravchik 19 February 2018 20: 37
    +1
    interesting, but in this situation Putin will be for whom. for israel?
  20. Simon
    Simon 19 February 2018 20: 37
    +1
    Quote: you Vlad
    Quote: ul_vitalii
    It seems to be coming to this, the American scenario.

    It’s just that he doesn’t interfere with him going to meet the American formations, let the killer fight The main thing is not to sit down over the heart and Amertsev managed to paint. But Assad does the right thing, how can he be blamed now: he’s supposedly left you wink Well, he could not, could not request

    But Americans do not agree with the Turks? It seems like there was an infa before that they measured! I realized one thing, that neither Turks nor Americans can be trusted, “two pair-boots” that they substitute for these. stop
  21. ljoha_d
    ljoha_d 19 February 2018 21: 04
    0
    Why is it interesting Turkey has not declared war on America, which has long supported the Kurdish formations
  22. myrzilka
    myrzilka 19 February 2018 21: 19
    +2
    Quote: sefevi
    Turks do not use all their firepower yet

    Well, yes, there are still many tanks that were not burned by the Turks. There is work for the Kurdish anti-tank systems)))) Of course, it would be necessary for the Turks to recall the downed plane. This is not forgiven.
    1. Oleg7700
      Oleg7700 19 February 2018 22: 11
      +5
      The second field Turkish army has not yet been deployed in Syria, even by several brigades, not to mention a pair of corps, although the last week the columns went continuously, including. quickly modernized by the Turkish military-industrial complex Sabra with telescopic towers, autonomous modules and, most importantly, sensors that fix and interfere with laser guidance (under smoke exhausts) The losses of the Turkish tanks will not stop and they are insignificant with respect to their long-term plans in the area of ​​Turkey's real "vital" interests, geography, alas , and five centuries of genetic memory. Commies-Adzhalans Afrin, Americans "on the drum."
  23. mavrus
    mavrus 19 February 2018 21: 35
    0
    Quote: you Vlad
    Quote: ul_vitalii
    It seems to be coming to this, the American scenario.

    It’s just that he doesn’t interfere with him going to meet the American formations, let the killer fight The main thing is not to sit down over the heart and Amertsev managed to paint. But Assad does the right thing, how can he be blamed now: he’s supposedly left you wink Well, he could not, could not request

    Yeah don't interfere. Well, they will arrange mattress-beds with the Turks "meeting on the Elbe." They will pretend that it is so. Stripes to the lantern, these Kurds, if the Turks destroy Syria and Assad.
  24. Radikal
    Radikal 19 February 2018 21: 41
    +1
    Turkey threatens Syria with war
    This is to be expected! How could it be any different? am
    1. tekinoral
      tekinoral 19 February 2018 21: 53
      +3
      Of course it could be, If Assad’s supporters are brought to Afrin to fight terrorists with the PYD / PKK [Democratic Union Party and the Kurdistan Workers Party], then there will be no problems. If they try to protect the terrorists from the participants of the “Olive Branch” operation, I can clearly state that no one will stop us, ”Cavusoglu said during a press conference.

      Read more at RBC:
      https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5a8ad6ca9a794741ec
      164e81
  25. Radikal
    Radikal 19 February 2018 21: 56
    +1
    Quote: tekinoral
    Of course it could be, If Assad’s supporters are brought to Afrin to fight terrorists with the PYD / PKK [Democratic Union Party and the Kurdistan Workers Party], then there will be no problems. If they try to protect the terrorists from the participants of the “Olive Branch” operation, I can clearly state that no one will stop us, ”Cavusoglu said during a press conference.

    Read more at RBC:
    https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5a8ad6ca9a794741ec
    164e81

    As I understand it, we got a “Turk” on our site here? belay I am writing while in quotation marks. winked
    1. protoss
      protoss 20 February 2018 02: 07
      0
      Well, judging by the name is the real one. what is interesting of all the Türks, such primordial names remained only among the Ottomans, well, maybe even the Uyghurs and then probably not names, but surnames.
  26. Urantian
    Urantian 19 February 2018 21: 59
    +1
    The Turks are insolent to impossible ... you need to iron these dogs so that they forget for many centuries the road to Syria ...
    1. tekinoral
      tekinoral 19 February 2018 22: 35
      +3
      And what are you sitting in the warmth of the house, come on with a song in front wink
  27. Turk_az
    Turk_az 19 February 2018 22: 19
    +2
    Quote: ultra
    Quote: Turk_az
    and then help the rebels in the Caucasus

    The Turks also helped these "rebels" in Chechnya. We have a good memory.

    USSR as it also helped Rpk
  28. Turk_az
    Turk_az 19 February 2018 22: 32
    +2
    Quote: Nikolai Grek
    Quote: Turk_az
    and then help the rebels in the Caucasus

    recourse recourse recourse Well try, help !!! what what Kadyrov will crumble you and not notice !!! wink lol lol lol and then gouge your turk-az if you chat a lot !!! wassat wassat wassat

    you gouged a lot at the time, but the time is not right ... you didn’t gouge us in April, and the neighbors from Gabala left quietly as normal, when it became expensive)) and asked you laughing Do not speak for Ramzan Kadyrovich, he will say what he has to say for himself, and said during the events in Myanmar wink
  29. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 19 February 2018 22: 32
    +2
    Quote: KonoGon
    Quote: Scorpio05
    Turkey has sheltered 3.5 million refugees from Syria and spends billions of dollars on their maintenance and food.
    Turks say Syria, can not maintain order in their country? We will support as we see it.

    Just one of the stated goals of the operation in Afrin and other territories is the resettlement of Syrian refugees to Syria, and most importantly to ensure the safety of people from any groups: DAESH, Kurdish Maoists (forcibly recruiting even girls to their troops), and from the government army and irregular factions supporting Assad. They are afraid no less than DAY. Probably a fairly organized force is needed that can protect everyone. Sunnis are afraid of the Alevites of Assad with his Shabih and the army, Arabs and Turkmens of Kurdish leftists, who organize mini-North Korea everywhere (well, who wants to live in it?) And who organize ethnic cleansing for themselves on the territories of Arabs and Turkoman. And everyone is scared. Such a force can be the combined forces (peacekeeping) of Russia and Turkey, for example. And there may be a problem with the Assad army, at least 85% of the country (not Alevites) does not accept it. By the way, if the government controls only part of its territory, and then with foreign help, what should the neighboring states do? No one has canceled an article of the UN Charter on self-defense ...
  30. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 19 February 2018 22: 47
    +3
    The Turkish army received carte blanche from America for bold operations against Assad units. The fact that the Turks clash with the Americans is complete nonsense --- they always acted according to a single plan. Iran has its own interests in Syria, our army will not intervene or will receive blow to our air base. The Turks have been tough from the very beginning --- airplanes, ISIS, Nusra. All agreements and "wise" cooperation with Erdogan in the furnace, all the peppy geopolitical articles of the propagandists in the furnace, all the dashing comments of the "marshals" are also there. We will look at the facts, and not at what we are humming here ...
  31. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 19 February 2018 23: 39
    +1
    Quote: sefevi
    But Turkey should calmly watch how the Kurds can get away from just retribution? If Assad did not know what, when the Kurds built entire underground cities using reinforced concrete (they are discovered by Turkish troops every day), it was clearly not one year when the Kurds expelled Assad’s troops, when the Kurds supported separatists from the PKK, sowing death and destruction in Turkish cities. then be prepared for the fact that someone else will restore order instead of you. Turks do not use all their firepower yet. So they’ve been standing near Ginderes for 4-5 days, but they’re not making any bombing. But if the Asadites come to the aid of the Kurds, this will already mean a total war. in which Assad clearly does not shine. I do not think that Russia will support Assad in such a matter.

    As for the PKK, you are the father of the current president, Az.R. - Tell Heydar Aliyev. He oversaw the PKK and participated in its creation under the auspices of the KGB; probably, his Kurdish origin played an important role in this. Also E.M. Primakov participated in this.
  32. Zina389
    Zina389 19 February 2018 23: 47
    0
    Israel and Turkey have the worst relations, even worse than Turkey and Assad. So Israel is the first condidate for wrecking Turkey. That's just not interesting alone)
  33. flicker
    flicker 20 February 2018 00: 36
    +1
    The war between Turkey and Syria is not needed neither the first nor the second - but the Amers are urgently needed. Turks and Syrians will not deliver such a pleasure to Amers.
  34. MadCat
    MadCat 20 February 2018 03: 25
    0

    Here is a movie ...
  35. gukoyan
    gukoyan 20 February 2018 07: 05
    0
    Someone else doubted that it would be so?
    I personally do not.
  36. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 20 February 2018 14: 13
    0
    Quote: protoss
    By the way, is this Safavi a descendant of the very dynasty that stopped in the 18th century?

    Quite possible. That dynasty had many branches and is still highly respected in Iran, since it is precisely this dynasty that Shiism owes its final approval and strengthening to Iran.
  37. Turk_az
    Turk_az 20 February 2018 21: 47
    0
    Quote: 72jora72
    there are 3 southerners, kolashmatyat company)))
    But it happens that the Armenians almost take Baku (and would have taken if Russia had not slowed them down)

    it happens that the Armenians take Moscow ... or Krasnodar .... you turned down about Baku, I'm about realities, not about dreams laughing
  38. tekinoral
    tekinoral 21 February 2018 01: 37
    0
    pytar,
    Karma hangs over you, you live on handouts from Europe, and the Armenians are generally begging, and Turkey at that time is not developing badly wink