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Project "ZZ". Khodorkovsky changed his mind about being president of Russia, and the foreign Internet changed his mind about being free

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Mikhail Khodorkovsky would still like to see a different political system in Russia, however, he does not intend to sit down in the presidency instead of Putin. Let it better sit down Sobchak. Meanwhile, the US network giants oppose Roskomnadzor, while others have already lost the battle. Navalny indignant: his records in Instagram were blocked due to a scandal with oligarch Deripaska. It seems that the foreign Internet in Russia has changed his mind about being free.



Mikhail Khodorkovsky and Duma Deputy Vladimir Ryzhkov


In an interview with the Associated Press, Mikhail Khodorkovsky explained that he did not want to rule Russia instead of Putin. According to Khodorkovsky, who quoted "Daily Mail"Khodorkovsky is “not interested” in replacing Vladimir Putin as president. As for voting in elections, Khodorkovsky can cast his vote in March to Ksenia Sobchak, a television star.

According to the former tycoon, politically motivated US and EU sanctions against Russia “do not work.” He also warned that Putin’s relations with the United States are unlikely to improve in the near future.

The Daily Mail notes that after ten years in prison, which Khodorkovsky regards as punishment for his own political ambitions, he is still deeply angry with Putin and is ready to finance alternative political leaders. Being in the "London exile", he says that what he really wanted for Russia was "a completely new political system."

“Unfortunately, no one who wants to come and replace Putin is not a solution,” Khodorkovsky said.

In his opinion, gradual reforms of parliamentary democracy should be carried out in Russia.

The newspaper reminds that Khodorkovsky is forbidden to participate in presidential elections because of a criminal record. However, Khodorkovsky himself says that this is “not an election,” because everyone knows the result in advance. And yet he urges people to get up from the couch and go to the polls.

Khodorkovsky, continues to publish, hinted that he was leaning toward Ksenia Sobchak’s candidacy. At the same time, he urged her to “clarify” her position to begin with. The fact is that by many observers Sobchak’s candidacy is perceived as something “superficial”, designed to mix together ideas of opposition and glamor.


Ksenia Sobchak


“I don’t know if I will vote for it, or, having exhausted everyone in the ballot, I’ll write:“ I am tired of Putin, ”Khodorkovsky said with irony.

Many Russians view the former billionaire as an offended, dispossessed oligarch, while others consider him an isolated and “irrelevant” one. However, his money is financing opposition activities in Russia. Khodorkovsky has been living in exile since his pardon in December 2013, and his organization, Open Russia, provides legal support to victims of human rights violations and carries out various media projects, the Associated Press reports.

Khodorkovsky does not find a solution to the current opposition leader Alexei Navalny. Khodorkovsky accuses Navalny of trying to become a “good king” instead of focusing his efforts on the reforms of Russia's political system. However, Navalny, like Khodorkovsky, is forbidden to "challenge" Putin in the March elections.

Since “Putin’s re-election is already guaranteed,” the publication ironically, the opposition forces in Russia are focusing on the future that will come in the country six years later. After all, it was believed that Khodorkovsky, "once the richest man in Russia," had ambitions "for 2024 year."

When asked by a journalist whether he would run in 2024, Khodorkovsky, however, said: “I am opposed to someone running for replacement of Putin. I think this position is doomed. "

And a little about the nearest bright future. Rather, dark.

According to Khodorkovsky, Putin’s next term will lead to a new decline in Russia and more strained relations with the United States. “For him and for those whom he represents, America is only good as an enemy,” says a former prisoner.


Khodorkovsky behind bars


So, instead of Khodorkovsky, Sobchak could sit on the throne in Russia. You never know? Meanwhile, American network giants are losing the battle for freedom of speech to Roskomnadzor, while others have already surrendered. Navalny, the one about whom Khodorkovsky spoke with disdain, is indignant: his Instagram posts were suddenly blocked. This happened because of a scandal with oligarch Deripaska. It seems that the foreign Internet in Russia still changed his mind to be free.

The Russian authorities blocked the site of a “prominent opposition leader” after he refused to execute the court decision to delete the published video, whereby a high-ranking official was accused of taking bribes from a wealthy businessman, writes "New York Times". The blocking decision has spread to American network service providers: Instagram and YouTube. Mr. Navalny attacked Instagram with stinging criticism.

“Instagram has decided to fulfill Russian illegal censorship requirements and remove some materials about the oligarch Deripaska,” Mr. Navalny wrote on Twitter. And he added: “Shame on you, Instagram!”

Aluminum oligarch Oleg Deripaska, recalls the newspaper, filed a lawsuit against the 21-year-old model and blogger Anastasia Vashukevich, accusing that of publishing the details of his personal life. Last year, Ms. Vashukevich posted video and photos on her Instagram. And it turned out from these materials that Mr. Deripaska was sailing on his yacht with Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Prikhodko.

Mr. Navalny used the material of Ms. Vashukevich for his video research. It appeared online last week and claimed that the trip was a bribe from Mr. Deripaska to Mr. Prikhodko, and Mrs. Vashukevich was on board the yacht with a high-class escort, and she was not the only one.

The Ust-Labinsk court accepted, following the suit of Oleg Deripaska, the decision to remove offensive materials from Instagram and YouTube. The court ordered the monitoring of the execution of the decision Roskomnadzor.


Oleg Deripaska


This ruling was to some extent executed. Mrs. Vashukevich has removed material from her Instagram, and only Youtube is still resisting. (We note that Navalny’s video investigation is still available on YouTube today and gained more than 5,6 million views.)

Observers from the Kremlin’s opposition are now debating whether Deripaska, who has close ties with President Putin and other Kremlin officials, acted on behalf of the government to “silence Mr. Navalny.” The opposition leader himself thought so, citing the Kremlin’s desire to silence his opponent before the presidential election. This is “a pretext for blocking the resources that we use to conduct our campaign to boycott the elections,” Navalny said.

As for Deripaska, he said through his representative that Navalny’s statements about bribery and prostitutes were “hot historywhich seems far from the truth. ” He also denies that his lawsuit was a veiled attempt to muzzle Navalny. “Mr. Deripaska argues that he protects his right to privacy and has no relation to any political struggle between Mr. Navalny and his political opponents,” the oligarch’s representative wrote in an e-mail. The representative also denies any ulterior motives in the actions of Roskomnadzor.

Mr. Navalny’s supporters disagree: why, if there were no political motives, did Roskomnadzor not just block the web page on which the results of the investigation were published, but block the entire site and some other sites related to it?

Most of the media, reminds the American edition, in Russia controls the government. And Navalny’s website is for him the only means of disseminating anti-corruption investigations relating to Putin’s entourage.

Mr. Navalny and his team have already created mirror sites and called on their supporters to use virtual private networks or VPNs to avoid access restrictions. "Each of us must learn to bypass the lock," says Mr. Navalny. “It becomes an essential skill in Russian life.”

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The scandal with Deripaska, the girls, the yacht and the person from the government, as well as the trial and blocking of unwanted sites became for some people an occasion to celebrate success. No, not for Navalny. While he is teaching the adherents of VPN, businessmen from biographical fiction make money.

The metropolitan publishing house EKSMO has sold off the circulation of a book called “The Diary of seduction of a billionaire, or Clone for an oligarch.” The cover of this essay is marked 18 + and appears author: Nastya Rybka. This is the creative pseudonym of the very Anastasia Vashukevich from the yacht. The demand for the book jumped just after the revelations of Navalny. But before the exposure, Rybka’s book was not a bestseller at all. After the scandal in a week, one and a half thousand volumes were spent.

“Sales have grown substantially, more than a hundred times, now this book is one of the top sellers in electronic form, but the dynamics are falling,” - noted in the press service of EKSMO.

By the way, the circulation of the “Diary of seduction” - 3 total thousands of copies. True, there are also electronic copies. Will the court ban the book Rybka? While there is no information about this. And if not, perhaps a reissue. Profit above all.

As for Navalny, he is trying to challenge the decision of the Ust-Labinsk court, and has already threatened Roskomnadzor. He filed a lawsuit against Roskomnadzor, in which he demanded to recognize the actions of this organization as illegal, since the information contained in the investigation cannot be regarded as information received in confidence. They are obtained from open sources, including the specified book of Nastya Rybka and photos from Instagram.

Western observers, we note in conclusion, say that the Kremlin only holds back the fear of a negative reaction from the international community from blocking all the resources of Navalny and his team. The second reason why Navalny and other oppositionists have not yet completely shut their mouths is the Kremlin’s desire to keep at least the appearance of openness in Russia. And yet the situation, some analysts say, is changing. The attack on unwanted sites and networks shows that a more rigid approach is being taken. Until you give up only YouTube. Does Roskomnadzor now block all YouTube - that is the question.

As for Deripaska, according to some sources, he I decided suddenly quit the presidency of the two companies, En + and Rusal. There is an opinion that this is not because of Rybka and Navalny, but because of a line in the American “Kremlin report”.
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  1. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 19 February 2018 10: 07
    +11
    By the way, I agree with Khodor: from replacing Putin in the Kremlin with Khodor, nothing can change for the people! As the oligarchs robbed and continue to rob.
    And Prikhodko is good! wink True sovereign servant! Who would doubt that the Kremlin had long grown together with the oligarchs. Vote further for the oligarchs?
    1. nemec55
      nemec55 19 February 2018 10: 42
      +12
      I can say with 100% certainty in the villages of our region over the past 18 years that nothing has changed in the BEST PARTY and in the city of Omsk, in fact, little global has happened in the above privacy of improving the life of the population.
      The country needs social development.
      At least they thought of komunyaki in terms of the respectable condate, they put forward a very sensible person FOR MY LOOK, and in spite of the nightingale and kissel litter, there is nothing bad for the condate from the authorities and they would have already eaten offal. They (the authorities) can only vilely crap.
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 19 February 2018 10: 59
        +2
        Hodor is right. Elections without a choice. Already announced that 75% are going to vote for Putin, with a turnout of 80%. One warms that it will not be worse. winked
        1. nickname7
          nickname7 19 February 2018 14: 24
          +14
          Hodor talks about the need for a new political system, but who was he? An oligarch who has a gigantic fortune, factories, factories, a huge number of people subordinate, enormous power, a hodor could put governors and mayors in his place. How did a hodor manage his influence and power - did he fight corruption ?, did he fight for fair trials? No and no, Hodor, with the help of his power, committed all kinds of economic crimes - bribing ships, falsifying documents, avoiding taxes, embezzlement on an especially large scale. And does this scammer stutter about honest courts? Tin.
        2. tv70
          tv70 21 February 2018 18: 17
          0
          Obviously, not an optimist. Will, will ... drinks
      2. You Vlad
        You Vlad 19 February 2018 11: 03
        +4
        Sing, sing, doves are not long left yes
        1. nemec55
          nemec55 19 February 2018 11: 20
          +6
          Sing, sing, doves are not long left yes

          Cooking 37th? or to the wall of all as in Ukraine?
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 19 February 2018 14: 13
            +5
            Quote: nemec55
            Cooking 37th? or to the wall of all as in Ukraine?

            Well good lol Here the elections will pass and the songs will stop.
            1. nemec55
              nemec55 19 February 2018 14: 19
              +6
              Well good lol Here the elections will be held and the songs will stop.

              I agree, and then what?
              Already come up with the elixir of eternal life:? I understand that on the outer front everything seems to be less or less normal, and that inside the country you can live in abundance and what the rest do, it’s better not and you don’t want to put another person in 6 years and I bet Grudinin will seem like an angelic baby if not God forbid comes to power (receiver) type Gorbachev
              1. You Vlad
                You Vlad 19 February 2018 14: 24
                +8
                Quote: nemec55
                and what’s inside the country you can live in abundance and what’s the rest to do, because it’s better not

                Classic!
                Quote: nemec55
                and after 6 years another bet and I bet Grudinin will seem like an angelic baby if God forbid, comes to power (receiver) like Gorbachev

                Let’s not think of anything, or else we can go so far. We have a war here, and they are giving us Grudinin.
                1. andrej-shironov
                  andrej-shironov 19 February 2018 15: 42
                  +3
                  Quote: you Vlad
                  Quote: nemec55
                  and what’s inside the country you can live in abundance and what’s the rest to do, because it’s better not

                  Classic!
                  Quote: nemec55
                  and after 6 years another bet and I bet Grudinin will seem like an angelic baby if God forbid, comes to power (receiver) like Gorbachev

                  Let’s not think of anything, or else we can go so far. We have a war here, and they are giving us Grudinin.

                  That's the war on the nose, and you all, to put it mildly roughly speaking, hold on to Putin as if you don’t understand who! How many times have they said: Russia needs nose development, not Putin's oligarchic stagnation.
                  1. You Vlad
                    You Vlad 19 February 2018 15: 47
                    +7
                    Quote: andrej-shironov
                    How many times have they said: Russia needs nose development, not Putin's oligarchic stagnation.

                    In my memory, the second time, the first time was in the year that way 1990 yes
                    1. andrej-shironov
                      andrej-shironov 19 February 2018 15: 51
                      +1
                      I don’t understand what you mean. Then there was just no war on the nose and we were sculpted friends of the West thanks to Hunchback.
                      1. dauria
                        dauria 19 February 2018 21: 37
                        +11
                        I don’t understand what you mean


                        Vlad just remembers how you shouted all the hordes then: “Enough stagnation, development is needed, down with snickering ones.” Exactly the same. laughing Well, war is always "on the nose." Slightly weaken, immediately get a war.
                2. a.sirin
                  a.sirin 19 February 2018 21: 18
                  +4
                  You don’t have any war on your nose, except for youthful eels ... Nobody in the West needs a war with Russia, and no one has been preparing for it in the last 20 years, as NATO states show. But gather the people in one big pile shouting "enemy at the gate!" managed. War - it will write off theft ...
        2. 210ox
          210ox 19 February 2018 14: 26
          +1
          And what will happen? In my opinion NOTHING ...
          Quote: you Vlad
          Sing, sing, doves are not long left yes
      3. Varyag_0711
        Varyag_0711 19 February 2018 11: 36
        +20
        nemec55 Today, 10:42 ↑ New
        In respect of the Condid Respect, they at least thought up to the communes to nominate a very sensible person IN MY LOOK
        Whom? Oligarch Grudinin or what? Don’t tell my slippers, it’s sensible in it is the ability to rip off and rob people, for whom he “is so sick with all his soul” ... laughing So the sick man got sick "for the people" that he doesn’t know on which side he should still be robbed.
        The deceitful two-faced darling who earned the loot is clearly not on the strawberry, as here all the Zagrudinians are trying to suck in this cranberry.

        P.S. I will laugh like a gray gelding if VTsIOM’s forecasts come true and Grudinin’s rating does not even reach the Communist Party’s rating ... laughing laughing laughing
        1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 19 February 2018 12: 53
          +11
          Quote: Varyag_0711
          Oligarch Grudinin or what?

          Through the media they constantly tell what an oligarchy oligarch Grudinin is. But how is it that the TV presenter and socialite Ksenia Sobchak has an income of three times more ...
          1. Varyag_0711
            Varyag_0711 19 February 2018 13: 05
            +18
            You know, I probably didn’t quite correctly put it. I attribute Grudinin to the under-oligarchs, who, like Petya ParAshchenko, are eager for power in order to become truly the No. 1 oligarch in Russia. The parallels are painfully obvious. In principle, I do not care deeply which of them earns more, Ksyushad or a strawberry dad. I am not at all indifferent to what will happen to Russia if one or the other is elected. Although their election, it is from the category of unscientific fiction.
            In my opinion, the only plus for Grudinin’s nomination is to show the authorities the percentage of people dissatisfied with the existing system, but again this is a very controversial issue. For example, I’m not happy with a lot of things, even more than not satisfied, but they won’t force me to vote for Grudinin even at the sight of a machine gun. This primate disgusts me to disgust, however, like Sobchak and Yavlinsky and Zhirinovsky.
            1. myrzilka
              myrzilka 19 February 2018 14: 01
              +10
              He, in general, is not torn, but simply goes to the polls. There is a program of action. And bring me at least one paragraph of our sunshine program.
              1. Varyag_0711
                Varyag_0711 19 February 2018 14: 15
                +14
                myrzilka Today, 14:01 ↑
                There is a program of action.
                Do not tell me this so-called "program of action." Well, turn on your head at least once and think how realistic this "program" is for execution? It is not feasible from the word AT ALL! There is not a single point that would be feasible. You all get another cranberry “for all the good, against all the bad”, and you’re glad to hang your ears. All politicians around the world, going to the polls, promise the mountains of gold and even more to the electorate, but who has ever fulfilled the promise?
                And bring me at least one paragraph of our sunshine program.
                Unlike Grudinin's promises, Putin is at least doing something. Compare Russia in 1999 and Russia in 2013, what, you want to say no difference at all?
                But doesn’t anyone deny that it has become worse after 2014, only since 2014 have we been in a state of economic war with the West, or are you not aware of this? But in war, as in war, it does not happen easily. Or do you propose paws up and run to the American embassy to give up?
                1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                  Andrei from Chelyabinsk 21 February 2018 17: 59
                  +1
                  Quote: Varyag_0711
                  All politicians around the world, going to the polls, promise the mountains of gold and even more to the electorate, but who has ever fulfilled the promise?

                  Do not believe it, they are very fulfilling. In the world, it means. Not with us
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 21 February 2018 18: 17
                    +3
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    Quote: Varyag_0711
                    All politicians around the world, going to the polls, promise the mountains of gold and even more to the electorate, but who has ever fulfilled the promise?

                    Do not believe it, they are very fulfilling. In the world, it means. Not with us
                    Is it an example? So that I’ve performed it directly - the one that is “not with us”?
                  2. Mechanikistanka
                    Mechanikistanka 23 February 2018 14: 01
                    0
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    Do not believe it, they are very fulfilling. In the world, it means. Not with us

                    And who performed what and where?
              2. You Vlad
                You Vlad 19 February 2018 14: 28
                +5
                Quote: myrzilka
                And bring me at least one paragraph of our sunshine program.

                So she is gone yes A program is like a promise of happiness to everyone, and let no one go away offended! And why is it GDP?
              3. Serg65
                Serg65 19 February 2018 14: 56
                +10
                Quote: myrzilka
                There is an action program

                laughing she is like two drops of water like liberal programs, the campaign is the same writer!
                1. myrzilka
                  myrzilka 19 February 2018 20: 53
                  0
                  On liberal programs ??? More delirium is rarely heard)))))
                  Quote: Serg65
                  Quote: myrzilka
                  There is an action program

                  laughing she is like two drops of water like liberal programs, the campaign is the same writer!
            2. Evdokim
              Evdokim 19 February 2018 17: 33
              +5
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              In my opinion, the only plus for Grudinin
              This is what Zyuganov and the Communist Party can send to the dump of history, they are not communists, they are businessmen. hi
          2. andj61
            andj61 19 February 2018 16: 37
            +1
            Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            Oligarch Grudinin or what?

            Through the media they constantly tell what an oligarchy oligarch Grudinin is. But how is it that the TV presenter and socialite Ksenia Sobchak has an income of three times more ...

            So after all, Sobchak is a lioness, that is, a predator. But Grudinin feeds on strawberries ... Yes, he is not an oligarch, and he is not among the 500 richest people in Russia according to Forbes, unlike the one who was significantly "impoverished" over the years of his imprisonment.
            And the predator may well have something else to hunt ... wink And at the same time, the favorable attitude of the guarantor of the Constitution to this family should not be forgotten. bully hi
          3. Vladivostok1969
            Vladivostok1969 20 February 2018 06: 27
            +2
            And I ask you to note that no one calls him an oligarch, doesn’t look for property abroad. That is, everyone understood that he was a candidate for laughter. The same can be said about Titov (and he is MUCH richer than Grudinin) and Suraikin. Zhirik is also a duty clown under the authorities. And VTsIOM leave it to yourself
        2. nemec55
          nemec55 19 February 2018 14: 01
          +5
          Whom? Oligarch Grudinin or what?

          Well, it’s immediately obvious that Kiselev’s gotten hot in your head and you live, the familiar situation in Ukraine is where people think the same and live by what the media will put in the head
          In our school in the 80s in Kazakhstan, a chemistry teacher worked for about 60 years, her favorite phrase was `` count the cripple ''
          You can laugh further and better yet download
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 19 February 2018 15: 04
            +14
            Quote: nemec55
            or better yet, download

            lol So you download it !!!
            Wherever you go, then Grudinin tore Putin, then Grudinin dropped Putin, then "Urgent news banned on TV! Grudinin revealed Putin's secret !!" Isn't that a race? Who is not for Grudinin, that is the enemy of the people !!!
            Do not consider the population of Russia as near! This is your mistake wink
        3. nemec55
          nemec55 19 February 2018 14: 03
          +7
          P.S. I will laugh like a gray gelding if VTsIOM’s forecasts come true and Grudinin’s rating does not even reach the Communist Party’s rating ... laughing laughing laughing

          I wiped your vtsiom tomorrow
          Google to help you and see what simple people think and say
          1. Varyag_0711
            Varyag_0711 19 February 2018 14: 24
            +14
            nemec55 Today, 14:03 ↑
            I wiped your vtsiom tomorrow
            Google to help you and see what simple people think and say
            Well, I can also wipe your Google! Internet trash, cleaner than any VTsIOM, and the videos as “FOR” and “AGAINST” can now be cut without problems, there would be money.
            The fact that there are many dissatisfied in the country, no one denies, I myself am not satisfied with many. And by the way, my dissatisfaction with the current course is much more than positive assessments, BUT this is not a reason to turn off the brain and like the last fool the mumbler run to vote for the freak who promises the golden mountains in the country of fools.
            1. nemec55
              nemec55 19 February 2018 14: 36
              +3
              and as the last fool bumbler run to vote for the freak who promises the golden mountains in the country of fools.

              Yes, he’s here and in general
              Hope then embark on a different path of development
              Grudinin clearly says that he likes Shoigu and Lavrov and is ready to continue to work with them. But I’m talking about something else. The thing is that other people will take places in the villages (villages and towns) and believe me, I never sympathized with the Communists, but damn at least those people whom I know (not close) well, talented people and not just in words but in reality actually work as deputies in the field
          2. You Vlad
            You Vlad 19 February 2018 14: 41
            +3
            Quote: nemec55
            Google to help you and see what simple people think and say

            Shh, I’ll keep it secret, they say the United States invested in Grudinin as an alternative to GDP, but in reality, to take away more votes from GDP yes So they also paid for Google, and it’s very striking, they worked well.
            1. nemec55
              nemec55 19 February 2018 14: 48
              +3
              Yandex, open TE or go out onto the street and better then visit me on a collective farm and then together with Grudinin and see if I make any clarifications right away at my state farm (go bankrupt), a single Russia rules and choosing a communist two years ago did not rejoice over the whole collective farm for long he did not create such conditions that he left to live in Altai

              PS a trip at your expense my zp only to the district is enough at five for chays
              1. You Vlad
                You Vlad 19 February 2018 15: 09
                +10
                Quote: nemec55
                we’ll see only now I’ll make clarifications right away at my state farm (they went bankrupt) united Russia rules

                And what? There are a lot of these state farms around the country! So there are a lot of those who found themselves on the market! And Grudinin does not need to be dressed up as a sort of business manager! He’s just a huckster, who in one way or another squeezed out shares and stakes from ordinary hard workers and became at their expense , well, not very poor! And the state farm did not rise on the farm, but on the lease of land yes
                1. nemec55
                  nemec55 19 February 2018 15: 39
                  +3
                  Damn well, where did you all get such information
                  Listen to all of you so the core of the holy martyrs in the background komunyak
                  1. You Vlad
                    You Vlad 19 February 2018 15: 43
                    +3
                    Quote: nemec55
                    Damn well, where did you all get such information

                    Yok Makarok, I'm sorry to use the information used.
                    Quote: nemec55
                    Listen to all of you so the core of the holy martyrs in the background komunyak

                    Yes, they are the same everywhere yes
                  2. andj61
                    andj61 19 February 2018 16: 50
                    +1
                    Quote: nemec55
                    Damn well, where did you all get such information
                    Listen to all of you so the core of the holy martyrs in the background komunyak

                    Yes, they are all good! And it’s hardly worth changing the needle. The people still hope that Putin and the oligarchs will nip at least a little, and the government will force them to work. At least - get rid of the most odious and boring characters in the government. And I think that the people of Putin will once again trust. For the people, everything is still the same: the king is good, the boyars are bad! bully hi
                    My personal opinion: Grudinin with absolutely honest and transparent elections is more than 15, well, to the edge - 20% (with Putin’s 60% as a minimum) can’t gain. And E. Pamfilova is trying very hard to hold just such an election. EdRo has one task - to ensure the highest possible turnout. If inactive voters come to the polls, the percentage for Putin will be higher.
                    1. You Vlad
                      You Vlad 19 February 2018 18: 12
                      +2
                      Quote: andj61
                      EdRo has one task - to ensure the highest possible turnout.

                      And what GDP is related to
                      Quote: andj61
                      EdRo

                      He is self-nominated yes
                      1. andj61
                        andj61 20 February 2018 08: 28
                        0
                        Quote: You Vlad
                        And what GDP is related to
                        Quote: andj61
                        EdRo
                        He is self-nominated

                        Do you think it doesn’t? bully
                        You can be self-nominated a hundred times and not be a member of the party, but the fact that Putin is one of the founders and inspirers of this party (the initiator of its creation cannot be called otherwise) cannot be gained. And one more thing - remind me which candidate for the presidency the EdRO nominated? And which candidate - from self-nominees, of course bully - This party at its congress decided to support the election? wink And you still say that Putin has no relation to EdR? hi
                    2. You Vlad
                      You Vlad 20 February 2018 12: 32
                      0
                      Quote: andj61
                      You can be self-nominated a hundred times and not be a member of the party, but the fact that Putin is one of the founders and inspirers of this party (the initiator of its creation cannot be called otherwise) cannot be gained.

                      The nominally new party, which was then called “Unity and the Fatherland - United Russia”, was headed by co-chairs of the Supreme Council, leaders of the organizations of the founders Sergey Shoigu (“Unity”), Yuri Luzhkov (“Fatherland”) and Mintimer Shaimiev (“All Russia”). The actual leader was Alexander Bespalov, who served as chairman of the central executive committee and the general council of the party.

                      The name of this politician is not at the hearing right now. Alexander Bespalov comes from the "northern capital", a chemist by education. He left science in Soviet times. He worked as an instructor and head of the organizational department of the Executive Committee of the Leningrad City Council. In the nineties he worked at the mayor's office of St. Petersburg.

                      More details: https://www.kakprosto.ru/kak-889244-kogda-byla-so
                      zdana-partiya-edinaya-rossiya # ixzz57de89M00
                      Quote: andj61
                      And one more thing - remind me which candidate for the presidency the EdRO nominated?

                      Probably this, well, to win recourse Correct answer?
                      Quote: andj61
                      - This party at its congress decided to support the election?

                      And what? His still fair and labor support!
                      Quote: andj61
                      And you still say that Putin has no relation to EdR?

                      This is not me, but Putin yes So he took it and did not advance from the party, although he still won the election victory!
                      1. andj61
                        andj61 20 February 2018 16: 45
                        0
                        Quote: You Vlad
                        Quote: andj61
                        And you still say that Putin has no relation to EdR?
                        It’s not me, but Putin. He took it and didn’t nominate from the party, although he still won the election victory in his pocket!

                        Putin did not advance from the party, but he does not hide his attitude to it. But you say that he has nothing to do with the party, that he is very at odds with the real situation.
        4. tv70
          tv70 21 February 2018 18: 20
          +1
          But how can one not be duplicitous at the top, if there is a two-headed mutant on the coat of arms?
    2. Finches
      Finches 19 February 2018 11: 47
      +8
      Hodor, how calm he became ... Probably a letter in the mail came from a photo of Berezovsky washing in the bathroom with a scarf around his neck ... laughing
      1. Varyag_0711
        Varyag_0711 19 February 2018 12: 05
        +11
        Yes, most impudent Saxons decided that Hodor spent material and the sense of it ZERO, and therefore loot pour into it is not an option. And Hodor without the dough, it’s even more than no one, that's the whole combination.
        It seems to me that they decided to change tactics and play not from the liberals who so discredited themselves in Russia that they aren’t spit on only the lazy, but from left-wing supposedly patriots. It’s now that the “people's” oligarch Grudinin is being intensively untwisted, and PR is being done to him because the Kremlin allegedly slandered him, the accounts are fake, everything is against him because of the allegedly sky-high ratings of Grudinin, which in fact are nothing more than a puff.
        That's who it would be worth to look at law enforcement agencies, and not the anal clown. Although the clown should also be attracted for the corruption of young people.
        1. Romey
          Romey 19 February 2018 13: 43
          +7
          Grudinin does not need to do PR. You did everything yourself and much better, gentlemen, compradors. Now the whole country knows about Grudinin and his program with the help of your dogs-magazines. and your weapon turned against you. And at the expense of it, this is no longer relevant: Grudinin did not violate the laws of the Russian Federation that you wrote for 27 years. Sorry, but hard workers and pensioners do not read foreign media and they especially have no time to sit on social networks, so we continue to be more active. Let Mr. Shapiro spend a couple more evenings ...
          1. Varyag_0711
            Varyag_0711 19 February 2018 13: 58
            +14
            Romay Today, 13:43 ↑
            You did everything yourself and much better, gentlemen, compradors.
            God, what a cheap pathos. negative
            Now the whole country knows about Grudinin and his program
            What is this about? Which type of "20 steps of Grudinin" to transform Russia? This is not a program, this is a cranberry for complete fool suckers. We already had such programs: 500 days and other nonsense, which brought the country to complete collapse. To believe in this program means either to completely have no brains, or to consciously lead the country to collapse, which option is closer to you?
            Sorry, but hard workers and pensioners do not read foreign media and they especially have no time to sit on social networks
            Here you contradict yourself, you wrote above that the last homeless person now knows about Grudinin.
            May Mr. Shapiro
            And who is this?

            P.S. I repeat, I will look at you and other sectarians-Zagrudinites after March 18, when it turns out that the rating of your under-oligarch is lower than the rating of the Communist Party ... laughing
            1. Romey
              Romey 19 February 2018 14: 29
              +4
              No contradictions, gentlemen! among these strata of the population the zomboyaschik is still popular. Thank you all the same!
              Quote: Varyag_0711

              May Mr. Shapiro
              And who is this?

              Oh wow! But you don’t know, the name Solovyov is nothing more than a creative pseudonym ?!
              Heavy artillery was launched: suddenly, supporters of the candidate for President P.N. registered in the CEC in accordance with all the legislation of the Russian Federation Grudinin are declared supporters of the president pursuing a liberal course, sectarians and agents of the State Department? Characterizing in open language your political rivals as enemies? Guys, if you are serious, then a big problem is brewing in our country, which we often recall, namely, that if this show-game in the liberal-patriots comes next, it can end in a serious civil war. Until now, I considered Chubais, Abramovich, Medvedev, Aven, Deripaska and others to be my enemies, but I did not consider Varyag 2345465 as an enemy, considering him simply a deeply mistaken person. In turn, the Varangian 1545465 considers all of us enemies, traitors and agents of the State Department on whom the special services should pay attention (disguised denunciation ?!), on the basis of what we consider to be the enemies of the above-named gentlemen, headed by the liberal president. Did I understand correctly?
              1. Varyag_0711
                Varyag_0711 19 February 2018 14: 51
                +10
                It's funny, but you even answer by the training manual. Having caught the trend, you kind of agree with the opponent, at the same time transferring all the arrows to this opponent.
                I would not consider you enemies either, if mattress ears would not stick out behind your comments. You work too clumsy, too intrusively and too explicitly.
                I can quite distinguish my opponent’s own opinion, even if it’s diametrically opposed to mine, with what you and your kind are doing. Your task is now quite clear, you are actively trolling for a clearly disastrous candidacy, someone unknown to the village of an unknown under-oligarch, with a clearly idiotic program, the impracticability of which is visible to anyone who is able to even think a little with their brains, and not by being imposed on him from a mailbox or the Internet .
                By the way, I don’t look, nor he disgusts me with Kiselev, especially after saying about the “greatest writer” Solzhenitsin, I don’t look at Solovyov, and therefore I don’t know either his real name or his pseudonyms. Moreover, recently I have not watched TV at all or listened to the radio. The only exceptions are news programs. So drown further Zagrudininets, all the same, your Grudinin’s chances are lower than the baseboard, and you know this, because you are trying to convince everyone here of the popular support of this freak, thief and boor in addition.
                By the way, among my friends, I have never heard from anyone that he went to vote for Grudinin, probably everyone is afraid to talk about it out loud, because it’s not enough that the bloody geben will come and shoot everyone ... laughing
                1. Romey
                  Romey 19 February 2018 17: 41
                  +7
                  What training manual ?! Oh damn, I forgot that the agent of the State Department ... We drowned and will continue to drown for Grudinin and we will not be able to shut up. And for Solzhenitsyn you will have to look and suffer further, as in a joke about hedgehogs and cacti, because these same liberals, Putin, Medvedev, Shuvalov, Dvorkovich, will continue to manage you until they are able to do this, only they will leave for themselves, and you you’ll stay here to the ears in shit, together with us, agents of the State Department, it would be disgusting to you ... And when the next boy, Kolya from Urengoy, decides once again to repent in the Bundestag, don’t howl either — you choose this crazy system of education .. And when in Syria they still bring down a couple of three sides with impunity and put down a couple of hundred mercenaries with whom the state is shyly hiding, don’t yell and don’t rush with yells: we will tear everyone up !! Do not break it, you don’t even have hats to tear, and the Americans have now personally demonstrated that they know how to fight, and it doesn’t matter if they have pipyax. And finally, if Grudinin is a thief, a boor and a rogue, then who is Anatoly Borisovich Chubais who brought Moscow in 1996 to an unknown portfolio holder Sobchak from whom, together with Berezovsky, they whipped up a model "patriot" in haste? You are lying, brazenly, shamelessly, shamelessly. Just like your chefs who plundered and continue to plunder the remnants of a once great country, from which, not without your support and approval, there were only a few flaws ... get up off your knees further! Insertors. And now you can ban like many of my comrades, hypocrites!
                2. mari.inet
                  mari.inet 20 February 2018 06: 26
                  +5
                  You write correctly, Varyag. Not going to vote for Grudinin. This is a wimp, already spinning in a hot frying pan, and also very similar to Rodchenkov. It is so similar that the question involuntarily arises about their consanguinity. Why Russia such a presidential candidate from the Communist Party? And the second question - about Grudinin as a project of our "bosom partners - also arises inevitably.
              2. sxfRipper
                sxfRipper 21 February 2018 16: 01
                0
                Shapiro - mother's maiden name, Solovyova - grandmother's paternal maiden name.
            2. nemec55
              nemec55 19 February 2018 15: 42
              +5
              P.S. I repeat, I will look at you and other sectarians-Zagrudinites after March 18, when it turns out that the rating of your under-oligarch is lower than the rating of the Communist Party ... laughing

              You don’t have to look anywhere, you just can go
              1. Varyag_0711
                Varyag_0711 19 February 2018 15: 52
                +5
                nemec55 Today, 15:42 ↑
                You don’t have to look anywhere, you just can go
                And you do not stumble ... laughing
                In general, where should I go, I’ll figure it out without your advice.
          2. You Vlad
            You Vlad 19 February 2018 14: 43
            +4
            Quote: romey
            Grudinin does not need to do PR.

            So what are you talking about then? You need to be silent with a proud look and that’s it!
            Quote: romey
            no need to do PR
    3. Yujiko
      Yujiko 20 February 2018 02: 31
      0
      But does power not equal money? Let's vote for poor candidates. Let’s see either they get rich with power, or reduce wealth to their level, and they lose power.
      1. dSK
        dSK 20 February 2018 23: 30
        0
        Quote: Yujiko
        We will see

        During a press conference on Tuesday, February 20, presidential candidate of Russia Ksenia Sobchak boasted a list of sponsors for its election campaign, Alexander Fedotov, owner of ACMG publishing house, invested in Sobchak. Fedotov’s company produces L'Officiel or, for example, Forbes in Russia. According to Sobchak, Anatoly Tsybulevsky, the head of the New Energy Systems, also played a role in the campaign. In addition, the candidate names art critic Yana Raskovalova and co-owner of the SportLife network of clubs Vadim Raskovalov in the list of sponsors. Finally, Yota Devices co-owner Sergey Adonyev, the head of Onego Shipping LLC Alexander Roslyakov and the owner of Inc. magazine close the list. Vladimir Palikhata.
        At the same press conference Sobchak stated that Russia "needs migrants" because "it will not be able to develop its own territories". The candidate also believes that in St. Isaac’s Cathedral should not be “held prayers, but "meetings". Finally, Sobchak stated that she again sued in connection with the registration of Vladimir Putin as a candidate for the presidency of Russia.
        1. 73petia
          73petia 23 February 2018 14: 38
          0
          Boris Vitalievich has already explained everything in detail.
          https://oper.ru/video/view.php?t=2606
    4. Vladimir 5
      Vladimir 5 21 February 2018 18: 11
      +1
      Why Khodorkovsky was silent about the candidate P. Grudinin is clearly worried about his stolen billions. In one right, V. Putin is only the top of the clan of thieves, therefore P. Grudinin has such a replacement only with the president and his team. Zhirinovsky stops the disgruntled marginals and is a long-standing project, because he does not have a team, and he replaces the whole party with his personality
    5. Baby sitter
      Baby sitter 23 February 2018 00: 15
      0
      What is the alternative! Call yourself!
  2. Romka47
    Romka47 19 February 2018 10: 21
    +3
    Damn how to work now? spat on the entire monitor and no wipes crying
  3. Loess
    Loess 19 February 2018 10: 42
    +8
    As for voting in elections, Khodorkovsky may cast his vote in March to television star Ksenia Sobchak.
    And as for me, in general it should be prohibited to vote for persons with dual citizenship or those who live most of the time abroad (if this is not a business trip). How can people who do not live in the country make the right choice if they know about life in Russia only from other people's words or from the words of other people?
    1. volodya
      volodya 19 February 2018 12: 06
      +7
      Quote: Less
      As for voting in elections, Khodorkovsky may cast his vote in March to television star Ksenia Sobchak.

      This generally needs to be sent to the USA for permanent residence! There would be more sense!
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 19 February 2018 12: 47
        +1
        and 10 more such oppositionists we will find for the relocation of the USA
      2. your1970
        your1970 19 February 2018 21: 26
        0
        an old joke about neutron weapons, the United States and warrant officers have not been canceled ...
        Maybe Ksyusha is an ensign in the soul?
      3. old reindeer herder
        old reindeer herder 20 February 2018 09: 35
        +1
        Well, one’s own words, you can vote not for the dog itself but for a single part of the body, but why is it .... such a second hand
    2. Romey
      Romey 19 February 2018 13: 36
      +4
      Quote: Less
      [And as for me, it should generally be prohibited to vote for persons with dual citizenship or those who live most of the time abroad (if this is not a business trip). How can people who do not live in the country make the right choice if they know about life in Russia only from other people's words or from the words of other people?

      Do you want to deprive the suffrage of people who, according to conservative estimates, own at least a third of the economy? laughing Rather, they will deprive you of what they want ...
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 19 February 2018 10: 45
    +4
    opposition forces in Russia focus on the future that will come in the country six years later
    Strongly said - "opposition forces." And what will happen to these forces after 6 years they did not think? T.N. The opposition with its kookies already got not only the population, but also its "allies." After the election, they will begin to choke on scarves in droves from anger and powerlessness. Someone may sit down for several years for organizing the riots.
  5. Romey
    Romey 19 February 2018 10: 49
    +5
    I won’t be surprised if now officialdom will start promoting Deripaska as a faithful Putin and a “true patriot,” undeservedly slandered by this malicious destroyer of sacred bonds .... laughing
  6. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 19 February 2018 11: 19
    +4
    By the way, Navalny at the end of his investigation makes a logical conclusion - since Putin, as the director of the FSB, facilitated Skuratov’s resignation, for the video in the bathhouse, it would be logical to send Prikhodko there too, after having fun with prostitutes on the Deripaska yacht
  7. Albatroz
    Albatroz 19 February 2018 12: 09
    +1
    And where did Ryzhkov come up
  8. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 19 February 2018 12: 52
    0
    Quote: andrej-shironov
    By the way, I agree with Khodor: from replacing Putin in the Kremlin with Khodor, nothing can change for the people! As the oligarchs robbed and continue to rob.
    And Prikhodko is good! wink True sovereign servant! Who would doubt that the Kremlin had long grown together with the oligarchs. Vote further for the oligarchs?

    What is the manner in which to give an answer at the beginning of the comment, and ask the question in the last line?
  9. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 19 February 2018 12: 55
    0
    Quote: rotmistr60
    opposition forces in Russia focus on the future that will come in the country six years later
    Strongly said - "opposition forces." And what will happen to these forces after 6 years they did not think? T.N. The opposition with its kookies already got not only the population, but also its "allies." After the election, they will begin to choke on scarves in droves from anger and powerlessness. Someone may sit down for several years for organizing the riots.

    And in six years they may already be in Russia! For this six-year period, the GDP should get rid of them completely, if not, then there is no need to prepare a successor ...
    1. Romey
      Romey 19 February 2018 13: 33
      +6
      What prevented this from doing the previous 18 years? And on what basis did you come to the conclusion that Putin will definitely do this in the next 6 years, and with whose help? laughing
      1. kepmor
        kepmor 19 February 2018 16: 20
        +5
        hurricane, dear, you are still petitioning the king to submit with the requirements of what and how he SHOULD do ... laugh ....
  10. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 19 February 2018 12: 58
    0
    Quote: Less
    As for voting in elections, Khodorkovsky may cast his vote in March to television star Ksenia Sobchak.
    And as for me, in general it should be prohibited to vote for persons with dual citizenship or those who live most of the time abroad (if this is not a business trip). How can people who do not live in the country make the right choice if they know about life in Russia only from other people's words or from the words of other people?

    It is logical, but in the modern world people no longer decide anything, and even the Duma boyars will collapse this idea into law ...
  11. Alex shev
    Alex shev 19 February 2018 18: 55
    0
    Khodorkovsky does not want to be the president of Russia? Does someone want to see him? I do not know such.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 22 February 2018 16: 18
      0
      As far as I know, Khodorkovsky is generally against a strong presidency in Russia. He is a supporter of a parliamentary republic, where the first violin is played by the government, responsible to the State Duma.
  12. myrzilka
    myrzilka 19 February 2018 21: 05
    +4
    Quote: Varyag_0711
    But doesn’t anyone deny that it has become worse after 2014, only since 2014 have we been in a state of economic war with the West, or are you not aware of this? But in war, as in war, it does not happen easily. Or do you propose paws up and run to the American embassy to give up?

    Ah ha))))) Well, at an oil price of 120 Baku, it’s hard not to be a god)))))) But as the oil dipped, and the mustache, the economic miracle ended. I remember remember the words of GDP exactly in 2015:
    - Patience 2 years and everything will be just drop dead !!
    Two years passed and 3 years began. And gide is drop dead ??? In the wet dreams of our cunning)))) The economy is ticking in place, people are getting poorer. Or not??? Of course, I understand that before the election they raised the minimum wage level, added money to state employees. But there is one thing but ... after the election, a rise in prices will begin, now pent-up. They will return to raising the retirement age. They will raise tariffs for housing and communal services, they will raise them, they will raise them, and do not even hesitate. The redhead Tolyan has already rolled a test ball, declaring the need to raise tariffs. And GDP will again say empty promises that he is not tired of making. And Prime Minister Medvedev will repeat about the money that is not there, but we must hold on. And you are refueling your cars, you will sadly look at the price thereof at a gas station.
  13. midivan
    midivan 19 February 2018 22: 27
    +3
    the trip was a bribe from Mr. Deripaska to Mr. Prikhodko, and Mrs. Vashukevich was aboard an extra-class escort
    I don’t even know what to say, but she doesn’t take courage what
    1. your1970
      your1970 21 February 2018 18: 21
      +1
      even if they paid me a lot and pumped vodka, I wouldn’t be able to do this .......
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 22 February 2018 16: 20
      +1
      Poor Deripaska. Did he really have no money to find something more decent?))
  14. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 20 February 2018 08: 28
    0
    Oh, it’s not just that the GDP left the party. I'd like to believe that it was not just that he collected all henchmen and crooks into one pile. Now would not let scatter like cockroaches.
  15. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 20 February 2018 09: 00
    +1
    dauria,
    Quote: dauria
    I don’t understand what you mean


    Vlad just remembers how you shouted all the hordes then: “Enough stagnation, development is needed, down with snickering ones.” Exactly the same. laughing Well, war is always "on the nose." Slightly weaken, immediately get a war.

    Maybe he screamed and I did not! It’s just that Brezhnev’s stagnation led to the appearance of Humpback, as now Putin’s will lead to another Hunchback.
  16. Captain45
    Captain45 20 February 2018 11: 14
    0
    Many Russians see the former billionaire as an offended dispossessed oligarch, while others consider him to be isolated and "irrelevant." However, his money finances opposition activities in Russia. Khodorkovsky has been living in exile since his pardon in December 2013,
    Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky what a wonderful harmony of surnames and destinies. Yet history does not teach anything. After all, if you do not calm down and shut up, then fate will be similar winked “I think so!” (C) lol
  17. Igor-01-03-56
    Igor-01-03-56 21 February 2018 07: 15
    +2
    Oh cucumbers, yes tomatoes!
    Hodor the mayor shot for conversations.
  18. tv70
    tv70 21 February 2018 18: 31
    0
    andj61,
    A little correction. Not to EdRo, but to EdRast, a long time ago they began to dignify them.
  19. Baby sitter
    Baby sitter 23 February 2018 00: 13
    0
    yeah, a little dog for president ... America !!! It’s much easier to push it there!
  20. Forever so
    Forever so 23 February 2018 00: 22
    0
    Liberalism is Syphilis of the brain. (c) F.M. Dostoevsky. Syphilitic Russian power must be changed along with its beloved Jewish banking capitalism.