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German Foreign Minister called the conditions for the lifting of sanctions on Russia

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The gradual lifting of sanctions from Russia can begin after the UN peacekeepers enter the Donbass, German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel said during a German business breakfast with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.


Gabriel said that he considers the idea of ​​Russian President Vladimir Putin “to put the" blue helmets "in the Donbass" correct.

German Foreign Minister called the conditions for the lifting of sanctions on Russia


If this input is made, then it will be possible to begin a phased lifting of sanctions.
- said the German minister, adding that in the European Union they perceive American sanctions "as more than ambiguous", since they "have extraterritorial significance."

According to the minister, Russia is Germany’s central partner in building an international security architecture.

Together we are responsible for security and stability in the world. I assume that the Russian side is ready to take on this responsibility.
- concluded Gabriel.

In addition, it was noted that Germany can offer investments for the restoration of Donbass "subject to the establishment of a truce and a withdrawal of heavy weapons."

Earlier, the issue of sanctions at the Munich Conference was commented by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. At a meeting with representatives of the business circles of Russia and Germany, he said that the unwinding of the “sanction spiral” is for the US a way to promote its own interests.

We understand that economic interests are tied up here and the Americans do not hide that they want to promote their interests primarily under the guise of containing the Russian Federation
- he said.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 17 February 2018 17: 04
    +17
    So they’ll soon introduce .. "Blue" .. They put the Kremlin down I think so ..
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 17 February 2018 17: 07
      +5
      Quote: 210ox
      So they’ll soon introduce .. "Blue" .. They put the Kremlin down I think so ..


      Yes, something is doubtful. They do not need to squeeze, but destroy.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 17 February 2018 17: 11
        +10
        Destruction will be later. For a long time they can play. Do you remember the destruction of the USSR?
        Quote: Geisenberg
        Quote: 210ox
        So they’ll soon introduce .. "Blue" .. They put the Kremlin down I think so ..


        Yes, something is doubtful. They do not need to squeeze, but destroy.
        1. Anarchist
          Anarchist 17 February 2018 17: 29
          +12
          Dmitry, welcome!
          Here are the true motives visible:
          Germany may offer investments for the restoration of Donbass

          They want to make money in the long run ...
          Business and nothing personal!
          1. 210ox
            210ox 17 February 2018 17: 51
            +1
            Alexander hi I think they already have some guarantees. This is my opinion
            Quote: Anarchist
            Dmitry, welcome!
            Here are the true motives visible:
            Germany may offer investments for the restoration of Donbass

            They want to make money in the long run ...
            Business and nothing personal!
          2. PalBor
            PalBor 17 February 2018 18: 40
            +1
            And Crimea under the villa for the Wehrmacht veterans.
            1. AlexVas44
              AlexVas44 18 February 2018 11: 07
              0
              Quote: PalBor
              And Crimea under the villa for the Wehrmacht veterans.

              There are none, now for the Bundeswehr veterans, but as tourists. bully
        2. mmk
          mmk 17 February 2018 20: 07
          +2
          The USSR destroyed itself, both political workers and the population. Everywhere robbed, from factories, canteens, etc. Dragged bolts, keys, pots and stuff.
      2. Jack
        Jack 18 February 2018 13: 57
        0
        For Geisenberg. To yours: “Yes, something is doubtful. They don’t have to squeeze, but destroy ...” **************************** **********************
        *******************
        Why destroy what is being milked?
    2. dorz
      dorz 17 February 2018 17: 08
      +2
      There are two options - on the demarcation line or full control over the Russian-Ukrainian border.
      1. Siberian
        Siberian 17 February 2018 17: 35
        +11
        There are 2 options - along the line of demarcation for the protection of the UN special mission or nowhere. They breed conflicting parties. On the border of the Russian Federation and the Russian Federation of the future (Donbass), nobody shoots anywhere, not a single person was killed, there is no destruction and no conflict is observed. Nothing to do there. As well as nothing to do in the territory of Donbass. He doesn’t hang around there. Only a demarcation line and lug about a mission
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 17 February 2018 18: 12
        +3
        Quote: dorz
        There are two options - on the demarcation line or full control over the Russian-Ukrainian border.

        1st option is Russian, 2nd option is Ukrainian
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 17 February 2018 19: 34
          +4
          Quote: Silvestr
          1st option is Russian, 2nd option is Ukrainian

          How long will the Germans set us conditions? Isn’t it time for Russia to deliver its terms to the Germans and French - or they force the pig to comply with the Minsk agreements, or Russia recognizes LDNR and concludes treaties of friendship and mutual assistance with them. And let only a pig shoot at least once towards the republics. And no war. Specialist. operation to eliminate the ruling elite in Ukraine. Of course, many will say - an adventurer. And they will probably be right. But I don’t see another way to stop all this, and even a little blood.
          1. sogdy
            sogdy 17 February 2018 20: 54
            +1
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            How long will the Germans set us conditions?

            And shaw, is it really the "conditions"? So, chatter to nowhere.
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 18 February 2018 10: 01
              0
              Quote: sogdy
              And shaw, is it really the "conditions"? So, chatter to nowhere.

              But aren't the conditions? - "The beginning of the lifting of sanctions after the introduction of peacekeepers", the continuation of the lifting of sanctions after the return of Crimea and the liquidation of the naval base in Sevastopol, the next continuation of the lifting of sanctions after the withdrawal of all troops from the Kaliningrad region. etc etc etc Therefore, I say - we must begin to set conditions - the immediate withdrawal of all NATO troops and the elimination of bases in the states bordering us. And in general, I think - the last words of Lavrov in Munich should be like this: - You are stirring up anti-Russian hysteria in your media, so you are preparing your peoples for a war with us, so you want a war with us? You will get it! And we must begin with the destruction of the fifth column in Russia. And this will be a clear sign for the adversaries that Russia is not joking.
              1. sogdy
                sogdy 18 February 2018 11: 23
                +1
                Excuse me
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                "The beginning of the lifting of sanctions after the introduction of peacekeepers", the continuation of the lifting of sanctions after the return of Crimea and the liquidation of the naval base in Sevastopol, the next continuation of the lifting of sanctions after the withdrawal of all troops from the Kaliningrad region. etc etc etc

                are these "conditions"? This is a helpless chatter by the chef who does not affect the subject of discussion.
                1. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk 18 February 2018 14: 47
                  0
                  Quote: sogdy

                  are these "conditions"? This is a helpless chatter by the chef who does not affect the subject of discussion.

                  Yeah, all this idle talk about nothing and those who finally - an empty place. It doesn’t matter that this "idle talk" is applauded and goes in line with this "idle talk". With your lips and drink honey. However, there are sanctions and conditions. But our Foreign Ministry speaks with pacifying speeches. Everyone - "from Lisbon to Vladivostok" and the "partners" are neighing and slowly pulling troops to our borders. Equip infrastructure to receive even more troops. But we are not hysteria, we have strong nerves, we do not succumb to provocations. In addition - "here comes a new government in Germany and begins to be friends with us." Blessed is he who believes. Trump - he is good .. This is the State Department - bad. But Trump will soon win and there will be happiness for us. But when will Russia cease to have something or to hope for someone?
                  1. sogdy
                    sogdy 18 February 2018 17: 18
                    0
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    . It doesn’t matter that this "idiot talk" is applauded and goes in line with this "idiot talk".

                    And sho? To bomb Voronezh? What for?
                    "They" engage in self-hypnosis. You can answer, you can send - they will not notice.
                    "And if the result is the same, why pay more?" (from)
    3. Black_Vatnik
      Black_Vatnik 17 February 2018 17: 12
      +8
      Putin himself proposed to introduce helmets a very long time ago. And what has changed since then? Not today or tomorrow gunpowder the second round will unleash and then everyone will not be up to the “blue”.
      The German minister can say anything, the question of the location of these helmets will not be decided by him. And Putin has repeatedly made it clear that he will not agree to put helmets where it will be beneficial to Kiev.

      If the Germans started talking about lifting the sanctions, then they themselves need it ... so let's see who will squeeze someone)
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 17 February 2018 18: 29
        +6
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        Not today or tomorrow gunpowder the second round will unleash and then everyone will not be up to the “blue”.

        It makes sense to put them on the border in order to prevent the advancement of the Republic of Armenia while they are advancing on LDNR. So, they hope that Belarusians and Brazilians will shoot at us and burn tanks?
        The biggest mistake was to recognize the power of Bandera, and now an attempt to reconcile them. The further the denouement is delayed, the more blood will be shed.
        1. captain
          captain 18 February 2018 11: 04
          +2
          Our analysts did not calculate how the stop of the attack on Mariupol will end.
          As Winston Churchill said: If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it receives both war and shame .. "
          The Olympics, sanctions, constant accusations of aggressiveness and imperial ways, the arrest of our people anywhere in the world by the Americans, the arrest of our diplomatic property, the recognition of the United Nations as aggressors and much more, and obviously not very good.
          The mistake came out in 2014 near Mariupol.
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 18 February 2018 11: 55
            +3
            Quote: captain
            The mistake came out in 2014 near Mariupol.

            This is what you put it very mildly .... There is more suitable army "brain pull" ...
      2. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 18 February 2018 22: 12
        0
        Quote: Black_Jacket

        If the Germans started talking about lifting the sanctions, then they themselves need it ... so let's see who will squeeze someone)

        Talk of lifting the sanctions is a primitive temptation. An attempt to force Russia to make concessions.
    4. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don 17 February 2018 17: 13
      +3
      The German "peacekeepers" carrying the new order were already part of the combined forces of Europe in the early 40s of the 20th century in the Donbass, they threw in two counts under the boot. Whoever saw this in live German speech still cannot hear.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 17 February 2018 17: 19
        +6
        In two counts? Well, you give ...
        Quote: Ancestors from the Don
        The German "peacekeepers" carrying the new order were already part of the combined forces of Europe in the early 40s of the 20th century in the Donbass, they threw in two counts under the boot.
      2. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 18 February 2018 14: 53
        0
        Quote: Ancestors from the Don
        The German "peacekeepers" carrying the new order were already part of the combined forces of Europe in the early 40s of the 20th century in the Donbass, they threw in two counts under the boot. Whoever saw this in live German speech still cannot hear.

        These - "... in two counts under the boot boot." It cost us dearly. And we must never forget this.
    5. Vkd dvk
      Vkd dvk 17 February 2018 17: 22
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      So they’ll soon introduce .. "Blue" .. They put the Kremlin down I think so ..

      And what after that? Abrams at Rostov-on-Don? You think how to press the clave correctly.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 17 February 2018 17: 34
        +4
        German Foreign Minister called the conditions for the lifting of sanctions on Russia
        stop counter offer ...: "poshlyvynaher" gut, genossa?
        1. bane's jacket
          bane's jacket 17 February 2018 18: 00
          +3
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          German Foreign Minister called the conditions for the lifting of sanctions on Russia
          stop counter offer ...: "poshlyvynaher" gut, genossa?

          Do you listen and hear anyone besides yourself (I don’t specifically mean you, but Russia as a whole)? What problems with the German proposal can you explain?
          1. Vkd dvk
            Vkd dvk 17 February 2018 19: 22
            +2
            Quote: bane jacket
            Quote: Andrew Y.
            German Foreign Minister called the conditions for the lifting of sanctions on Russia
            stop counter offer ...: "poshlyvynaher" gut, genossa?

            Do you listen and hear anyone besides yourself (I don’t specifically mean you, but Russia as a whole)? What problems with the German proposal can you explain?

            But the problem is that these words are actually uttered by the US satellite, which has no weight in politics. And therefore, these words are diplomatically streamlined. Which do not specifically mean anything.
            These exits are reminiscent of exits from a crowd divided for a fight, small boys who scoop up and arouse elders.
            I would like to push them aside so as not to get underfoot.
            1. bane's jacket
              bane's jacket 17 February 2018 20: 15
              +3
              Quote: wkd dvk
              Quote: bane jacket
              Quote: Andrew Y.
              German Foreign Minister called the conditions for the lifting of sanctions on Russia
              stop counter offer ...: "poshlyvynaher" gut, genossa?

              Do you listen and hear anyone besides yourself (I don’t specifically mean you, but Russia as a whole)? What problems with the German proposal can you explain?

              But the problem is that these words are actually uttered by the US satellite, which has no weight in politics. And therefore, these words are diplomatically streamlined. Which do not specifically mean anything.

              Then I want to ask, what the fuck..on Lavrov goes there and meets with him? For business trips?

              Quote: helmi8
              Quote: bane's jacket
              What problems with the German proposal can you explain?

              There is one problem. She’s the main one - they cannot be trusted. They already gave guarantees in February 2014 ...

              The master is the master! Close all embassies and representative offices there. What do they travel, meet and discuss something?
              1. Vkd dvk
                Vkd dvk 19 February 2018 13: 04
                0
                Quote: bane jacket
                Quote: wkd dvk
                Quote: bane jacket
                Quote: Andrew Y.
                German Foreign Minister called the conditions for the lifting of sanctions on Russia
                stop counter offer ...: "poshlyvynaher" gut, genossa?

                Do you listen and hear anyone besides yourself (I don’t specifically mean you, but Russia as a whole)? What problems with the German proposal can you explain?

                But the problem is that these words are actually uttered by the US satellite, which has no weight in politics. And therefore, these words are diplomatically streamlined. Which do not specifically mean anything.

                Then I want to ask, what the fuck..on Lavrov goes there and meets with him? For business trips?

                Quote: helmi8
                Quote: bane's jacket
                What problems with the German proposal can you explain?

                There is one problem. She’s the main one - they cannot be trusted. They already gave guarantees in February 2014 ...

                The master is the master! Close all embassies and representative offices there. What do they travel, meet and discuss something?

                NOT to drive, not to participate, not to speak and not to fight for their positions is to hand them over to the enemy in advance.
                1. bane's jacket
                  bane's jacket 19 February 2018 14: 07
                  0
                  Quote: wkd dvk

                  NOT to drive, not to participate, not to speak and not to fight for their positions is to hand them over to the enemy in advance.

                  You can’t believe them. They do not decide anything. They decide everything "behind a puddle" for them.
                  But for some reason it is necessary to go to speak, participate and fight to them, and not "for a puddle". Interesting position. good
                  1. Vkd dvk
                    Vkd dvk 19 February 2018 15: 31
                    0
                    Quote: bane jacket
                    Quote: wkd dvk

                    NOT to drive, not to participate, not to speak and not to fight for their positions is to hand them over to the enemy in advance.

                    You can’t believe them. They do not decide anything. They decide everything "behind a puddle" for them.
                    But for some reason it is necessary to go to speak, participate and fight to them, and not "for a puddle". Interesting position. good

                    In order to tear them from the cartridge in Washington. Press on their national pride. To choose for this the least subordinate to the Americans. This is the most economically powerful and dependent on our energy supply.
            2. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 18 February 2018 15: 19
              0
              Quote: Vkd dvk

              But the problem is that these words are actually uttered by the US satellite, which has no weight in politics. And therefore, these words are diplomatically streamlined. Which do not specifically mean anything.

              Dear, you are making one mistake - it doesn’t matter who said, the US representative or the representative of the US satellite. They all play the same tune. The important thing is that Russia is forever set by some conditions. And if Russia will fulfill them, then they, the conditions, will grow like a snowball. And the last condition will be - to become in a pose. And here it will not matter to Russia who the United States or the satellite, which has no weight in politics, will have it. Russia itself needs to start setting conditions.
              1. sogdy
                sogdy 19 February 2018 13: 43
                0
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                Russia itself needs to start setting conditions.

                Trying to understand the depth of your thoughts. The question remains - why? Do they have a lot of their own?
              2. Vkd dvk
                Vkd dvk 19 February 2018 15: 58
                0
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                Quote: Vkd dvk

                But the problem is that these words are actually uttered by the US satellite, which has no weight in politics. And therefore, these words are diplomatically streamlined. Which do not specifically mean anything.

                Dear, you are making one mistake - it doesn’t matter who said, the US representative or the representative of the US satellite. They all play the same tune. The important thing is that Russia is forever set by some conditions. And if Russia will fulfill them, then they, the conditions, will grow like a snowball. And the last condition will be - to become in a pose. And here it will not matter to Russia who the United States or the satellite, which has no weight in politics, will have it. Russia itself needs to start setting conditions.

                Set your conditions. Here, just like that, shout out on the air- THIS IS MY CONDITIONS !!! Or in a specific case, on a specific occasion, to insist on the implementation of what is signed? What requirements can we present to a party not participating in the Ukrainian conflict - Germany, France? We do not participate either, and we say that demanding fulfillment from us is idiocy? This Ukraine must fulfill.
                If so, then what will we demand from whom? Doesn’t it seem like you are bullshit?
                1. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk 20 February 2018 20: 32
                  0
                  Quote: Vkd dvk

                  Set your conditions. Here, just like that, shout out on the air- THIS IS MY CONDITIONS !!! Or in a specific case, on a specific occasion, to insist on the implementation of what is signed? What requirements can we present to a party not participating in the Ukrainian conflict - Germany, France? We do not participate either, and we say that demanding fulfillment from us is idiocy? This Ukraine must fulfill.
                  If so, then what will we demand from whom? Doesn’t it seem like you are bullshit?

                  If my memory serves me, then under the Minsk agreements, in addition to Ukraine, France, Germany and Russia put their signatures. How is the signature of Russia different from the signature of France and Germany? These agreements are approved by the UN. The question for you is why Russia requires the implementation of the Minsk agreements, while other signatories do not? So I propose, to their rubbish - Russia, follow the Minsk agreements, answer my rubbish - France and Germany, follow the Minsk agreements. Force your satellite - Ukraine to fulfill them. And another condition to put - otherwise, we, RUSSIA, will be forced to recognize LDNR and take them under the protection of our own air forces. Let them think. It is necessary to seize the initiative from the EU and the USA. They give us one condition, we give them two. Enough to defend and justify forever - yes, there are no our troops in the Donbass, but there are none. How can?
          2. helmi8
            helmi8 17 February 2018 19: 58
            +2
            Quote: bane's jacket
            What problems with the German proposal can you explain?

            There is one problem. She’s the main one - they cannot be trusted. They already gave guarantees in February 2014 ...
      2. 210ox
        210ox 17 February 2018 19: 33
        +2
        You do not poke me
        They didn’t drink to the Brudershaft. I only advise you, since you learned to get on the clave correctly, then you will soon learn to think.
        Quote: wkd dvk
        Quote: 210ox
        So they’ll soon introduce .. "Blue" .. They put the Kremlin down I think so ..

        And what after that? Abrams at Rostov-on-Don? You think how to press the clave correctly.
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 17 February 2018 21: 00
          +1
          210Q I believe that it is not my opinion alone that you have already forgotten how to think.
          My personal - and did not know how.
          1. bane's jacket
            bane's jacket 19 February 2018 13: 34
            +1
            Quote: sogdy
            210Q I believe that it is not my opinion alone that you have already forgotten how to think.
            My personal - and did not know how.

            Let it be to you. A person has a certain set of phrases, mostly banal, which he inserts depending on the topic of the article.
            1. sogdy
              sogdy 19 February 2018 13: 47
              0
              Quote: bane's jacket
              there is a certain set of phrases, mostly banal, which it inserts depending on the topic of the article.

              Come on?! Not really a word processor?
        2. Vkd dvk
          Vkd dvk 19 February 2018 13: 07
          +2
          Quote: 210ox
          You do not poke me
          They didn’t drink to the Brudershaft. I only advise you, since you learned to get on the clave correctly, then you will soon learn to think.
          Quote: wkd dvk
          Quote: 210ox
          So they’ll soon introduce .. "Blue" .. They put the Kremlin down I think so ..

          And what after that? Abrams at Rostov-on-Don? You think how to press the clave correctly.

          Well, it’s you who got excited. To brudershaft-it must be earned. To begin with, sound reasoning.
          1. Anarchist
            Anarchist 19 February 2018 14: 18
            +5
            What are you all doing with your depth of reasoning here? You have a place on the talk show at Solovyov & Co. ..!
            There, your tongues will pull you up!
    6. Kars
      Kars 17 February 2018 17: 33
      +7
      They will introduce and then postpone the lifting of sanctions until something else)) business then.
      1. Vkd dvk
        Vkd dvk 17 February 2018 19: 32
        +2
        Quote: Kars
        They will introduce and then postpone the lifting of sanctions until something else)) business then.

        That's it. And the troops brought in will not have to be scribbled, but expelled by destruction. Examples of this are a bunch. And the freshest is "peacekeeping" p and n ... in Syria.
      2. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 17 February 2018 20: 05
        +5
        Quote: Kars
        They will introduce and then postpone the lifting of sanctions until something else)) business then.

        it means driving in the opposite direction - and not to the kidneys, but to the tonsils
    7. siberalt
      siberalt 17 February 2018 17: 42
      +3
      In business! They themselves set the conditions for lifting sanctions against Russia. belay
    8. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 17 February 2018 17: 47
      +3
      This is more or less like a dialogue, only blue helmets to enter the line of demarcation.
      1. Vkd dvk
        Vkd dvk 17 February 2018 19: 37
        +1
        Quote: Spartanez300
        This is more or less like a dialogue, only blue helmets to enter the line of demarcation.

        Fuck not cities. Minsk agreements. Not only we signed them. And Germany and France. Their role is to look for pretexts for non-fulfillment? And cover this bastard, coming up with some options? Or their role in pressure on the piglet?
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 18 February 2018 15: 27
          0
          Quote: Vkd dvk
          Or their role in pressure on the piglet?

          That's it. Russia must set the conditions - either you (France and Germany) through sanctions or something else, these are your problems, make the pig carry out the Minsk agreements, or we will take the Donbass away.
          1. Vkd dvk
            Vkd dvk 19 February 2018 15: 41
            0
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            Quote: Vkd dvk
            Or their role in pressure on the piglet?

            That's it. Russia must set the conditions - either you (France and Germany) through sanctions or something else, these are your problems, make the pig carry out the Minsk agreements, or we will take the Donbass away.

            Smart uphill will not go. A smart mountain will go around.
            We will not take it. Against the background of the annexation of Crimea, they will not understand us. Recognizing them is much stronger. Accusations against us for the takeover (accession, annexation, etc.) cannot be glued. But this is, in the most extreme case, when a real war begins there. Because it will have to be recognized within the boundaries that actually take shape. And this is half the territory of these regions. And you need to be aware that there will be no turning back.
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 20 February 2018 20: 37
              0
              Quote: wkd dvk
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              Quote: Vkd dvk
              Or their role in pressure on the piglet?

              That's it. Russia must set the conditions - either you (France and Germany) through sanctions or something else, these are your problems, make the pig carry out the Minsk agreements, or we will take the Donbass away.

              Smart uphill will not go. A smart mountain will go around.
              We will not take it. Against the background of the annexation of Crimea, they will not understand us. Recognizing them is much stronger. Accusations against us for the takeover (accession, annexation, etc.) cannot be glued. But this is, in the most extreme case, when a real war begins there. Because it will have to be recognized within the boundaries that actually take shape. And this is half the territory of these regions. And you need to be aware that there will be no turning back.

              I agree. As for - we take it, it's me in the polemic fuse. You are right to admit. And to threaten - let’s take LDNR under the protection of our VKS.
              1. Vkd dvk
                Vkd dvk 20 February 2018 21: 30
                0
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                Quote: wkd dvk
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                Quote: Vkd dvk
                Or their role in pressure on the piglet?

                That's it. Russia must set the conditions - either you (France and Germany) through sanctions or something else, these are your problems, make the pig carry out the Minsk agreements, or we will take the Donbass away.

                Smart uphill will not go. A smart mountain will go around.
                We will not take it. Against the background of the annexation of Crimea, they will not understand us. Recognizing them is much stronger. Accusations against us for the takeover (accession, annexation, etc.) cannot be glued. But this is, in the most extreme case, when a real war begins there. Because it will have to be recognized within the boundaries that actually take shape. And this is half the territory of these regions. And you need to be aware that there will be no turning back.

                I agree. As for - we take it, it's me in the polemic fuse. You are right to admit. And to threaten - let’s take LDNR under the protection of our VKS.

                Of course. And not just the videoconferencing. There are other possibilities. Mutual Assistance Agreement and military agreement.
    9. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 17 February 2018 18: 16
      +3
      To everyone there .... believe yourself not to respect! They will remove the sanctions .. bully The main "partners" were introduced, and the Germans will be removed. No. Did they promise Yanukovych? Did they promise Gorbachev? A military trick called their lure ...
    10. vlad66
      vlad66 17 February 2018 18: 45
      +6
      Quote: 210ox
      So they’ll soon introduce .. "Blue" .. They put the Kremlin down I think so ..

      The article is incomplete. Where will they be brought to the line of dereliction or to the border with Russia what they don’t speak. As they say here then, you can say they’ve squeezed and didn’t. hi
    11. Angel_and_Demon
      Angel_and_Demon 17 February 2018 19: 15
      +5
      Quote: 210ox
      So they’ll soon introduce .. "Blue" .. They put the Kremlin down I think so ..

      why did you press it? in the role of blue helmets are considered - Belarus, Kazakhstan, and someone else from Latin America
    12. sgazeev
      sgazeev 17 February 2018 19: 32
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      So they’ll soon introduce .. "Blue" .. They put the Kremlin down I think so ..

      All the same, sanctions will not be lifted. Mattress workers will squeeze the European plague.
    13. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 17 February 2018 19: 50
      +5
      "To promise does not mean that he will marry ..."- in this way you should read the phrase of the nimble Gabriel. The hard-to-put together coalition under the command of Merkel is in no way able to change his fundamental line of foreign policy towards Russia.
      Lifting sanctions with the Russian Federation can only be started by another government unconditionally.
    14. kenig1
      kenig1 17 February 2018 20: 34
      0
      Read the Minsk agreements, you are not Klimkin.
    15. Ascetic
      Ascetic 17 February 2018 22: 26
      +2
      Quote: 210ox
      So they’ll soon introduce .. "Blue" .. They put the Kremlin down I think so ..

      They squeezed themselves ... they don’t tactfully remember the Crimea. And the sanctions started from the Crimea. So think about who has squeezed whom
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 February 2018 00: 41
        0
        This is a carrot, at the expense of the lifting of sanctions, but it is a bullshit for US, fat belts for it can be claimed, some!
        If the pigeons go to Donbass, then in what form will it be ??? In principle, anything that can bring peace to people is better than an endless expectation of something.
        In short, it is too early to hang up a label on this idea, events are taking their course.
      2. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 21 February 2018 09: 19
        0
        Quote: Ascetic
        Quote: 210ox
        So they’ll soon introduce .. "Blue" .. They put the Kremlin down I think so ..

        They squeezed themselves ... they don’t tactfully remember the Crimea. And the sanctions started from the Crimea. So think about who has squeezed whom

        You are mistaken. Sanctions began with the Magnitsky List
    16. gsev
      gsev 18 February 2018 01: 34
      0
      Most likely the Germans are beginning to realize that their sanctions are Russia's good and the harm to Germany. And Europe does not need militants who have gone through the school of banditry and permissiveness on the Maidan and Donbass, instead of learning to work. And most German investments are made in China, and Vacon, Shenou will come off instead of Siemens and Schneider.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 February 2018 02: 13
        +1
        Sanctions at any good. When and if we become stronger, then the Western "partners" will run to cancel them ... but for now we "eat" what is.
        There is only one option, we need to roll our compradors into .... a plane, then the country will really go forward.
    17. flicker
      flicker 18 February 2018 12: 02
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      So they’ll soon introduce .. "Blue" .. They put the Kremlin down I think so ..

      They didn’t squeeze the Kremlin, they squeezed the weak, not strong, infantile psyche of some site users.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 February 2018 15: 47
        0
        Don't understand the reasons for the disagreement?
        To introduce, for it is not against everything, it can become some guarantee of peace.
        Misunderstandings, disagreements only on the goals and objectives of the blue! Agree in the end.
  2. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 17 February 2018 17: 06
    +3
    Uncle ate too much ... You do not want to remove the sanction and didn’t really want to.
  3. Sergeant71
    Sergeant71 17 February 2018 17: 14
    +3
    Yes there will be no helmets there. The third year this bubbling goes on at each meeting / conference. No results. Nobody is going to remove any sanctions - it's time to understand this.
  4. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 17 February 2018 17: 19
    +4
    GO TO UKRAINE GROUP SOLDIERS CENTER ..... It will never happen again. Promise to think about lifting the sanctions .... Which they did not impose themselves. That is, to enter into conflict with godfather? Are they holding us for idiots?
  5. Russia
    Russia 17 February 2018 17: 26
    +10
    Belarus has one peacekeeping company, but we have a brigade near Samara, you can include it in the company, let them keep order. smile
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic 17 February 2018 17: 31
    +1
    Does someone else believe them? Everything has been decided there long ago - they let us in the dust, and let ukroin destroy the republic! And fairy tales about the lifting of sanctions, this mantra for our liberals, so that they bend even more under their masters, the United States and Europe.
  7. Egorovich
    Egorovich 17 February 2018 17: 39
    +4
    It would be nonsense to hell with their sanctions. The “blue ones” will not go beyond the demarcation lines if they are allowed to go there, they have all been taught Western perfidy.
    1. Angel_and_Demon
      Angel_and_Demon 17 February 2018 20: 01
      +4
      Quote: Egorovich
      all have already been taught Western treachery.

      but the Serbs are in favor request
  8. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 17 February 2018 17: 42
    +2
    The EU and the IMF did not get anything from Ukraine in meeting the conditions for granting loans, joining the EU, and implementing the Minsk agreements. Have the Washington Regional Committee received approvers for lifting sanctions? The EU has only the illusion that the lifting of sanctions in their power, that the establishment of a ceasefire in their power. They are not even able to introduce normally effective sanctions, because further only the chopping off, on which the world economy sits, the rest is children's horror stories. Well, what to negotiate with such ?!
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  10. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 17 February 2018 17: 48
    +5
    The gradual lifting of sanctions against Russia may begin after the UN peacekeepers enter the Donbass,
    May begin, or may not begin. It is felt that Germany is ready for everything already for the pacification of Ukraine, but nothing has long been dependent on them ...
  11. Troll
    Troll 17 February 2018 17: 48
    +1
    The head of the German Ministry of Foreign Affairs can say a lot, but the decision on sanctions is taken across the ocean. Vassals do not solve anything.
  12. bald
    bald 17 February 2018 17: 51
    +1
    As they "change shoes" - the fox sees cheese. And not only because of the SP-2. The voice is full, while they are afraid to submit, and therefore the conditions are set by "children" (excuse for the states). Normally, the rest of the eureka will follow them.
  13. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 17 February 2018 17: 58
    +2
    Blue helmets will enter along the line of demarcation, or not at all. Otherwise, stop shelling Donetsk, etc. don't stop. There are inadequate distinct, on the Ukrainian side. And shoot, and shoot. And there is no discipline there. And the compromise is completely understandable. As soon as the APU will not be allowed to shoot - oh, what will start ... You will not stock up on vodka ...
  14. wax
    wax 17 February 2018 18: 17
    +1
    What are they, deaf? How many times do you need to repeat: they themselves imposed, they rake themselves.
  15. anjey
    anjey 17 February 2018 18: 21
    0
    you can’t make concessions to the West, especially on their terms, it is fraught with yet another vile deceit and violation of all agreements, their peacekeepers will only provoke Ukraine to the massacre of Donbass, he has also been preaching double standards in his activity lately and is dragging on the US military political machine .. ....
  16. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 17 February 2018 18: 33
    +3
    That is, they propose to surrender the Donbass to the Nazis so that they "think" about lifting the sanctions? I don’t know who how, but so far I haven’t seen any harm from their “ssanctions”. Here is the good that pleases
  17. Head Physician
    Head Physician 17 February 2018 18: 37
    +16
    Some ideas
    Blue
  18. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 17 February 2018 19: 51
    +3
    Quote: Kars
    They will introduce and then postpone the lifting of sanctions until something else

    That's right ....
  19. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 17 February 2018 20: 31
    0
    The West even dreams of how to cheat Russia and win the confrontation in the Donbass in its favor. They are absolutely not interested (as well as Bandera) in the population of Donbass. Germany needs Donbass more than the rest of Ukraine, where it has no minerals.
  20. Uralean
    Uralean 17 February 2018 20: 39
    +2
    Quote: 210ox
    Gabriel said that he considers the idea of ​​Russian President Vladimir Putin “to put the" blue helmets "in the Donbass" correct.

    Quote: 210ox
    So they’ll soon introduce .. "Blue" .. They put the Kremlin down I think so ..

    Must be read carefully by Gabriel .. HE CONSIDERS the idea of ​​the President of RUSSIA IN PUTIN. But Putin’s idea was voiced by him, is. that blue helmets are introduced on the demarcation line between the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the LPR DPR troops, to protect the OSCE forces ... Let them enter, withdraw the belligerents, plant heavy weapons at the agreed distances and conduct their negotiations ..) Putin says correctly. It's time to end this mess. To hold elections in the LPR DPR, to legitimize these republics in international law. And then, by decision of a legitimate choice, create a legitimate government and a legitimate decision to secede from Ukraine .. Well, then with all the consequences that follow ... The move is now for Kuev.
  21. XXXIII
    XXXIII 17 February 2018 21: 25
    +1
    If this input is made, then it will be possible to begin a phased lifting of sanctions.
    Implementation will have to wait a long time, the boar will not let the peacekeepers of strangers, the UN also does not know where to get them, a dilemma. They will wait until the boar drops, and the trade has been going on for a long time, but not at the show ....
    Together we are responsible for the security and stability of the world. I proceed from the fact that the Russian side is ready to assume this responsibility
    - concluded Gabriel.
    Let's take our safety, do not worry the Germans, in this war there will be nowhere to go ....
    We understand that economic interests are tied up here and the Americans do not hide that they want to promote their interests primarily under the guise of containing the Russian Federation
    - he said.
    Everyone understands, few can answer .....
  22. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 17 February 2018 22: 09
    +1
    The Germans already set conditions for us ..? soldier How quickly everything is forgotten, what we did for them ..
    The next time this will not happen .. The Russians are not vindictive, but patience also has a limit!
    Fuhrer you miss again he he
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 17 February 2018 22: 31
      +5
      Quote: MIKHAN
      The Germans already set conditions for us ..?

      It’s not us, the Americans, who are timidly hinting that it’s time to tie it already, we lose too much dough ...
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 17 February 2018 22: 44
        +3
        Quote: Ascetic
        Quote: MIKHAN
        The Germans already set conditions for us ..?

        It’s not us, the Americans, who are timidly hinting that it’s time to tie it already, we lose too much dough ...

        Moreover, the Germans will answer for this ..! negative Traitors and sing along I hate .. hi
        Something about the emigrants of Arabs and Africans, everything calmed down .. Are you used to it or something ..?
        Ah Germans Germans ashamed of you ...

        laughing good
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 18 February 2018 15: 34
          +3
          there is a slightly different option
          1. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov 18 February 2018 16: 10
            0
            Hood !!! wassat Amendment accepted! good
  23. VladGashek
    VladGashek 17 February 2018 22: 35
    0
    The situation is almost hopeless. On the one hand, the internationalization of the conflict is a subspecies of agreement with the idea of ​​GDP about peacekeepers. Quote: "Gabriel said that he considers the idea of ​​Russian President Vladimir Putin" to introduce the "blue helmets" in the Donbass correct. " And a complete perversion of the idea of ​​GDP is the “blue helmets” in the Donbass throughout the territory, and not on the ceasefire line. On the other hand, increased pressure on the bureaucracy and oligarchy in Russia with a possible violent change of power. DARKNESS.
  24. APASUS
    APASUS 17 February 2018 23: 02
    +1
    The gradual lifting of sanctions from Russia can begin after the UN peacekeepers enter the Donbass, German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel said during a German business breakfast with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.

    Oh Miracle Miracle!
    And where are the guarantees that Mr. Sigmar Gabriel will not change his mind, as was the case when signing the contract with Yanukovych?
    Oh yeah !
    Of course, you can find hundreds of murky excuses. But still this time the question is serious enough, who will give guarantees for this trepppppppp ???
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 18 February 2018 02: 20
      +2
      Quote: APASUS
      Who will give guarantees for this trepppppppppp ???

      No one, it's all for "domestic consumption." After all, the banquet was organized by the Bundes-business, to which all this whistle-blowing with sanctions has long gone dumb. It is necessary to say something at his post of “foreign minister”, to offer a “compromise” solution. It is clear that Lavrov will definitely not take this race, especially since ours put forward their own conditions, which initially no one would fulfill. Something like this.
  25. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 18 February 2018 05: 51
    0
    The gradual lifting of sanctions against Russia may begin after the entry of UN peacekeepers in the Donbass

    The keyword is "can." That is, in fact, this should be understood as- "don’t even think about it: we’ll give you a bunch of conditions, including returning the Crimea and paying the penalty to the victims, plus the withdrawal of the armed forces for the Urals and nuclear disarmament" ... .
  26. Kerensky
    Kerensky 18 February 2018 07: 03
    0
    Who read the sanctions themselves? "We will not let the director of the GRU"? Yes, we ourselves will not release it - it knows too much.
    "Prohibited the export of meat of primates"? I, without the monkey leg of German production, I won’t even sit at the table!
    And so on ...
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    1. pafegosoff
      pafegosoff 18 February 2018 11: 01
      +1
      As for “there is no gas in the village” ... I was stunned in the 1970s when I saw the rampant gasification of private houses in Ukraine, while in the Tyumen region houses were drowned with Irkutsk (Cheremkhovsky) coal (dipped: four days for a commodity!) . This was under "developed socialism; tormented with export, a dump truck - buckets, a shovel, a furnace, slag ... And this is the Tyumen region! In our city, houses standing on the main streets are still not gasified! To this day! And now! ...
      Yes, Schaub Won Wuxi!
    2. Vkd dvk
      Vkd dvk 18 February 2018 17: 44
      0
      Quote: HIW
      I am not at all satisfied with this formulation of the question, both regarding "peacekeepers" and about cooperation. What is the phrase - “entering the blue”? Putin would have been a peasant, he would have helped the dombas properly, Ukrainian fascists would have forgotten the way there. That’s why he pisses to give the go-ahead for the annexation of the LPR and the DPR-Putin has banned.
      And cooperation with Germany - yes they went to shit, I don’t have gas in the village and our bonzes want to sell gas to them, why are you millers, have you already sold the rest of the soul to the devil ??? Our people receive salaries in the region of 15-20 tyr and they are bitch to Europe, my gas to China or Turks, in general, the coast has lost power

      You are in politics and in general, for reasons = ZERO.
      To unite two regions (republics) is to create a subject that is not found in any international document. It’s like a devil who jumped out of a snuffbox- NOBODY. It does not exist in the Minsk Treaty. Moreover, the total area combined in one, less than HALF areas of the regions.
      This means voluntarily giving up parts of their territories.
      You can unite when the entire territory of the regions is liberated, and when the cross is put on the Minsk Agreement. Finally. But through the fault of Ukraine. This can always be done, but a return stroke will no longer be possible.
      Unification in one republic should precede their mandatory recognition, and joining Russia.
  28. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 18 February 2018 10: 55
    +2
    Terms?
    As I understand it, otherwise we will cancel the World Cup?
    And here Putin raises his hands up: football is more important than the residents of the DPR and LPR.
    Or not? Or yes?
  29. Urantian
    Urantian 18 February 2018 12: 01
    0
    They went to hell with their sanctions, even if they never lift them ....., for Russia, sanctions are a blessing ....
  30. Jack
    Jack 18 February 2018 14: 09
    0
    Putin allowed the deployment of peacekeepers throughout the Donbass:
    http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1926981/
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 18 February 2018 17: 24
      +1
      Quote: Jack
      Putin allowed the deployment of peacekeepers throughout the Donbass:

      “It is understood that the protection of the OSCE observers by the UN can be carried out not only on the contact line after the separation of forces and means of both parties, but also in other places where the OSCE SMM conducts its inspection visits” (c)
      As one lady put it, you need to juggle in the toilet.
      1. Vkd dvk
        Vkd dvk 18 February 2018 17: 52
        +1
        Quote: sogdy
        Quote: Jack
        Putin allowed the deployment of peacekeepers throughout the Donbass:

        “It is understood that the protection of the OSCE observers by the UN can be carried out not only on the contact line after the separation of forces and means of both parties, but also in other places where the OSCE SMM conducts its inspection visits” (c)
        As one lady put it, you need to juggle in the toilet.

        And what can this iron think? He has fluid inside. And find leverage.