Israeli Trophy will install on the American "Abrams"

The US Department of Defense has budgeted for 2019 a year in the purchase of an Israeli 261 active defense system Trophy, the armyrecognition.com portal reports

The US Army has been testing various types of active defense systems for armored vehicles for a long time. Last year, the military department announced the completion of the selection process and the transition to final testing and procurement. So, it is planned to install Iron Curtain systems developed by the American corporation Artis on Stryker armored personnel carriers. Tanks The Abrams will be equipped with Israeli Trophy systems, and the Bradley infantry fighting vehicles with the Iron Fist system from Israel Military Industries.

The military budget for the 2019 fiscal year included the purchase of the 261 Trophy kit, which will be installed on Abrams M1A2 tanks (this number of active protection systems will be enough to equip three tank brigades). In this case, the US Department of Defense indicate that the first defense will be units deployed in Europe.

The Israeli Trophy system was developed in 2005 year to detect and destroy RPG missiles and shells fired at the tank. The system is equipped with a special radar station and a computer that determines the class and trajectory of the enemy ammunition. If an anti-tank grenade or a rocket threatens a tank, then the system releases small charges to the side that undermine it on approach. In addition, the system is able to determine the location from which the ammunition was fired. The Trophy system is available in several versions, in addition, in October 2015, the company RADS presented its “lightweight” version of the Trophy LV, reports "Warspot"

Comments

[210ox]

But something on our armored vehicles does not observe active protection. It’s worth the old dynamic ..

[Herculesic]

So dynamic is not on all tanks! And most often this is the first generation of "Contact", which made a hundred years in advance!

[Dead duck]

Quote: Herkulesich

So the dynamic is far from on all tanks

cherish ... everything will go to Armata (all the remnants).

Quote: professor

So buy ours or pride does not allow

we ourselves have, just do not show.
Py-Sy: and also go to Armata.

[Lexus]

And most often this is the first generation of "Contact", which made a hundred years in advance!

Soviet legacy "eat up". I really want “Afganit” not to suffer the fate of the “Arena”, which remained in isolated samples. Probably, government embezzlers and their relatives should be tied to tanks when they have to go into battle. You look, there will be “Money is - hold on!”, And not as it is now.

[Professor]

Quote: 210ox

But something on our armored vehicles does not observe active protection. It’s worth the old dynamic ..

So buy ours or pride does not allow?

[KonoGon]

Quote: professor

So buy ours or pride does not allow?

Very soon. “We strongly support the right of Israel to self-defense, and the actions of Israeli pilots were completely correct. - Frolov noted, commenting on the recent incident between Israel and Syria. In the event of aggression against Israel, not only the United States would stand on the Israeli side - Russia would also be on its side, ”Frolov said."

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: professor

So buy ours or pride does not allow?

Or maybe Chinese?

[Professor]

Quote: saturn.mmm

Or maybe Chinese?

Better is our original than Chinese fake.

[Maz]

Let them pose. It will not help them. How to break Trophy have already worked at the training grounds. Two shots from one directrix with a difference of 1-2 seconds. three can be, if weapons allow. Goal for fiction is cunning. And the main thing is cheap.

[Warrior with machine gun]

it reached the giraffes that a homogen of any thickness is now brewing, does not break through, only such that the tank does not budge in weight))

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Warrior with a machine gun

it reached the giraffes that a homogen of any thickness is now brewing, does not break through, only such that the tank does not budge in weight))

Well, a long time ago, and they started the series actively, when in 2006 the 42 cars were knocked down to us and the 31 tanker was killed. Here you run in like scalded.

[Warrior with machine gun]

I'm talking about striped, your intensity is not surprising, you do not consider your fighter cannon fodder in any situation.

[KVU-NSVD]

Does the system protect against a blow from above? And does it require, like Afghanite, to react to the attack from the stern of the turret?

[Professor]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

Does the system protect against a blow from above?

Yes.

[MoJloT]

From your own javas?

[Peter Tsar]

It seems that Quick Kill will go to the box, under the pressure of the Israeli arms lobby

[Herculesic]

So, we will buy "Chrysanthemums" in larger numbers to fight against the tanks of the adversary.

[Professor]

Quote: Herkulesich

So, we will buy "Chrysanthemums" in larger numbers to fight against the tanks of the adversary.

Do you think Chrysanthemum is resistant to counteracting KAZ?

[_Jack_]

“Chrysanthemum-S”, “Cornet-T”, “Cornet-EM” are able to shoot doublets. One rocket goes after the second one in a single beam to overcome the KAZ. Like, the first KAZ destroyed, and after it the second KAZ did not have time for reaction, because a few meters to the tank. The manufacturer Kornetov declares in the description such a regime for overcoming KAZ.
It is believed that even the KAZ radar may not detect a second missile. When missiles go one after another, the radar does not see the second after the first because it is in the centimeter range, and diffraction is especially pronounced in cases where the size of the obstacles is less than the wavelength or comparable to it. ATGM missiles have dimensions on 2 of an order of magnitude greater than the radar wavelength, which means that the first missile will have a “shadow” in the radar range where the second missile will hide.
And at the moment of operation of the KAZ, the radar fades for a split second because of the many of its own damaging elements. I read the estimates that the operation of the KAZ blinds her for 0,2-0,4 seconds, during which time the cornet rocket flies 60-100 meters (speed 300-310 m / s).
But this is all the chatter, whether there are any practical results is unknown.

[Professor]

Quote: _Jack_

“Chrysanthemum-S”, “Cornet-T”, “Cornet-EM” are able to shoot doublets. One rocket goes after the second one in a single beam to overcome the KAZ. Like, the first KAZ destroyed, and after it the second KAZ did not have time for reaction, because a few meters to the tank. The manufacturer Kornetov declares in the description such a regime for overcoming KAZ.

This is in theory. And in theory and KAZ can shoot a doublet.

Quote: _Jack_

It is believed that even the KAZ radar may not detect a second missile. When missiles go one after another, the radar does not see the second after the first because it is in the centimeter range, and diffraction is especially pronounced in cases where the size of the obstacles is less than the wavelength or comparable to it. ATGM missiles have dimensions on 2 of an order of magnitude greater than the radar wavelength, which means that the first missile will have a “shadow” in the radar range where the second missile will hide.

Not. There will be no "shadow". Moreover, missiles do not go one after another, and at a certain offset so that where there is a GOS one obscures the other, and where there is a beacon, it also needs to be illuminated.

Quote: _Jack_

But this is all the chatter, whether there are any practical results is unknown.

Quote: mvg

My question is, after the 2006 year, at least one merkava was shot down. Well, besides a land mine?

EMNIP, then KAZ intercepted 15 missiles. Not a single tank was hit.

Quote: Herkulesich

Professor -Oleg do not believe it, but the "Chrysanthemum", although not a panacea, is effective against KAZ!

You're right. I do not believe.

[_Jack_]

But about the blinding of the KAZ radar at the time of the shooting of the striking elements, your comment?

There will be no "shadow".

Let not the shadow, but the fact that two closely reaching targets are often perceived by the radar as one thing known, why in this case you exclude this option?

[Professor]

Quote: _Jack_

But about the blinding of the KAZ radar at the time of the shooting of the striking elements, your comment?

Trophy does not have a cloud of fragments. What is blinding? Moreover, the striking element moves there at a speed of km / s.

Quote: _Jack_

Let not the shadow, but the fact that two closely reaching targets are often perceived by the radar as one thing known, why in this case you exclude this option?

This happens when the resolution of the detector is close to the size of the detected object. This is not the case. The rocket is orders of magnitude longer than the radar wavelength.

[_Jack_]

Trophy doesn't have a cloud of shards

is there one striking element?

Rocket orders of magnitude longer than the radar wavelength

Trophy radar see range, the frontal projection of the rocket (it is from this side that the radar irradiates it) has just a centimeter dimensions

[Abrash]

Why explain to a Western agent technical principles? There are several ways to neutralize KAZ, as soon as KAZ becomes mass and implemented in large quantities!

[poquello]

Quote: Abrasha

Why explain to a Western agent technical principles? There are several ways to neutralize KAZ, as soon as KAZ becomes mass and implemented in large quantities!

this is actually the answer of which our continuous are not hung

[Maz]

We’ll check and see. Usually, Israeli colleagues claim overwhelming superiority, but in fact their supertors, superkipps, and supersufs barely cope with the grandparents of missile weapons of Soviet times. However, the trend requires confirmation. Let's see, listen, see. But usually our Jewish counterparts greatly exaggerate the capabilities of the prodigies to the brink of outright lies. And we were convinced of this more than once. Well, boom wait. There are good people among them who do not exaggerate to the extreme. Seeds, popcorn, sofa. Enjoy the play - "We always tell the truth." The first action: "The Israeli Air Force, cruise missiles and air defense of Syria," - we appreciated. 1: 1 in favor of Syria. And 2-0 in favor of Russia. Tepericha Action two: "Trophy" ... PR has already gone.

[Maz]

Even from RPGs they also teach to shoot

[shahor]

You read inattentively. Trophy determines the launch site and automatically directs a tank gun at him.
Given that the calculation still in place will keep the beam on the target - 120 mm high-explosive fragmentation near, well, of course ...

[_Jack_]

if ATGM with GOS calculation shot and escaped

[shahor]

Chrysanthemum and Cornet are hovering along the beam, so you’ll run far away ...

[_Jack_]

Spike or Javelin is needed, however, since there are no 3rd generation ATGMs

[mvg]

My question is, after the 2006 year, at least one merkava was shot down. Well, besides a land mine?

[Herculesic]

Professor -Oleg do not believe it, but the "Chrysanthemum", although not a panacea, is effective against KAZ!

[Dead duck]

Quote: Herkulesich

Means, we will buy "Chrysanthemums" in a larger quantity for fight against adversary tanks

Ours have already conducted exercises on pair firing from conventional grenade launchers (on one target and with a minimum delay) ...
what is it for...

[MoJloT]

defines the class and flight path of the enemy ammunition
In addition, the system is able to determine the place from which the ammunition was released

Luxurious toy!

[Humpty]

The Israelites do not abandon! Sometimes.

[Herculesic]

Humpty it will take a long time to figure out which one of them is yours!

[Humpty]

Quote: Herkulesich

which one of them is yours!

Yes, about a very specific case. Here is a girl who is still alive 22 years old. Could-give birth, delight loved ones. But she is not alive, and the false witnesses to her loss and death lie. Although the Israelis participated in its search, the filmmakers found the Russians from the quadric. No, Jews would nag Faberge to false witnesses from one of the prosperous countries of Europe and NATO, so that they could talk about how and what really happened. Silence, nothing is heard.

[Professor]

Quote: Humpty

Quote: Herkulesich

which one of them is yours!

Yes, about a very specific case. Here is a girl who is still alive 22 years old. Could-give birth, delight loved ones. But she is not alive, and the false witnesses to her loss and death lie. Although the Israelis participated in its search, the filmmakers found the Russians from the quadric. No, Jews would nag Faberge to false witnesses from one of the prosperous countries of Europe and NATO, so that they could talk about how and what really happened. Silence, nothing is heard.

Israel abandoned Healy? Those. she called for help, and our Foreign Ministry ignored? Do not cast a shadow over the wattle fence.

[Humpty]

Quote: professor

Israel abandoned Healy?

Oleg, Israel did not abandon her. Further only in PM.

[shahor]

Yeah, there is someone to take an example from - Syria, Dar-erZor - ichtamnet

[Bomb]

Cool thing no doubt.

[KonoGon]

Right now, sofa-makers of military equipment will come running and tell how Israel stole it from the USSR.

[Antidote]

I remember how they drowned on the “done with us” for “not having ...” the Arena, and the trophies “only in cartoons”. However, there are also 3/4 of such screamers.

[macgyver]

Israel stole the Jews who did this in the USSR. At least you will not deny it? )

[Hurricane70]

Quote: professor

Quote: 210ox

But something on our armored vehicles does not observe active protection. It’s worth the old dynamic ..

So buy ours or pride does not allow?

Well, you are wrapping up your Merkava matzo, it’s not going to look like ours!

[Hurricane70]

Quote: KonoGon

Right now, sofa-makers of military equipment will come running and tell how Israel stole it from the USSR.

Have you already taken the place of the sofa?

[KonoGon]

Quote: Hurricane70

Have you already taken the place of the sofa?

Your place Why do I need it.

[Hurricane70]

Quote: KonoGon

Quote: professor

So buy ours or pride does not allow?

Very soon. “We strongly support the right of Israel to self-defense, and the actions of Israeli pilots were completely correct. - Frolov noted, commenting on the recent incident between Israel and Syria. In the event of aggression against Israel, not only the United States would stand on the Israeli side - Russia would also be on its side, ”Frolov said."

Do not drive geese! I heard sooooo different! About GDP response to Netanyahu's call ...

[KonoGon]

Quote: Hurricane70

Do not drive geese!

Here on the right and flashes. It would seem open and read. No duck. You probably Persian more understandable?

[Zina389]

And they also create twin teams with inflatable "chrysanthemums", one of which shoots a doublet. And they also sleep with a jack.

[ljoha_d]

Well, for some reason, our equipment doesn’t have such equipment. One hole, or again try to crush the amount?

[macgyver]

Where did you get the tanks in Latvia? From museums?

[ljoha_d]

I am Russian and here there are many of us, so leave idiotic comments with you. We are far from all exactly what is happening in Russia, unlike you.

[macgyver]

Partisans or what?) We will send you good tanks, do not worry ...
T-90 seen in Syria? The American TOWs do not take it, although the Abrams and Leopards, who already have dozens of knocked out battles in the vicinity, are doing great.

[ljoha_d]

I look directly at the student Petrosyan

[macgyver]

Well, one more thing. Lech, why aren’t you curbing your Grybauskaite in your Baltic states?

[ljoha_d]

Grybaskaskait is Lithuania, but here all the indigenous inhabitants of the Baltic states went crazy. Damned amerikosov_ here are becoming more and more imported equipment, there are a lot of tanks with infantry fighting vehicles, there are aviation, so forces are gathering at the border that should not be underestimated, keep this in mind. In my opinion, our much-praised t-72b3 and b3m is heavily promoted by propaganda, in fact it’s just a leaky barrel, and the t-90 is too few and there are problems too, this cannot be denied, but alas, we rarely correct errors

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Well done, it’s not that our generals and officials, until mountains of corpses are piled up from soldiers, do not scratch themselves to put KAZ on BMP, BMD and BTR tanks ...

[Lacoste]

combining two homna is unlikely to get candy ..

[shosha]

The US Department of Defense indicates that the first defense will receive units stationed in Europe.

As Winnie the Pooh said, it’s not without reason ...

[seos]

We must develop an ATGM with a shock core and a non-contact fuse!

[Dzafdet]

Quote: lexus

And most often this is the first generation of "Contact", which made a hundred years in advance!

Soviet legacy "eat up". I really want “Afganit” not to suffer the fate of the “Arena”, which remained in isolated samples. Probably, government embezzlers and their relatives should be tied to tanks when they have to go into battle. You look, there will be “Money is - hold on!”, And not as it is now.

Not to tanks, but to lay under tanks. So they will be disposed of quickly and without problems. But seriously. then, when concluding a contract, servicemen must require the inclusion of clauses on the provision of life protection systems for both themselves and technology. and prescribe fines in very large amounts .. Then MO will be an ass to move ..